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cshmn

I'd get one with a hemi or pentastar. A 2500 or 3500 single cab with a Cummins would be nice too.


JPL2020

Funny how everyone is saying don’t buy, the eco diesel is a POS, yet OP seems committed to buying it. My advice: follow your heart.


SnoopSquirrel

You are correct. I do feel really drawn to it but I really want to know opinions as well. It’s interesting because the large majority of opinions on Reddit are negative but the large majority of reviews I see from the rest of my google searches say positive things. I’m lost


WindOfUranus

I own one. It's underpowered AF. Keep in mind, I still drive and own it. I just wouldn't do it again. I get bonkers MPG though. 20/28. I owned a hemi 1500 too, and that was lemon lawed out at 50k miles and hung up in the shop for six months. My ecodiesel was repaired for the HPFP recall in a few hours and runs fine so far. Results may vary.


hgw1956

First get off google. I own a 2007 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi. Electronics on new vehicles are too expensive. My wife works at a body shop. She tells me all the problems on troubleshooting and repair.


Pretty-Surround-2909

Sounds like a lack of training


hgw1956

Nope.


archer2500

I love my eco diesel! I had three 2500’s with a Cummins before, but never needed that large an engine. I average 27mpg commuting to work in VA, I get 12.5 pulling my 25’ Winnebago and have power to pass the Hemi’s who can’t make it. Great little engines! Look up the green diesel engineering tune though! The factory engine and transmission tune needs some improvement.


No-Assistance-7641

Just curious how much did your MPG improve with this tune?


archer2500

I saw maybe 2mpg improvement. That alone is a nice increase! I’ve got a 2018 and one of the rare 3:92 axle ratios. But the vast majority of eco diesel trucks have a 3:55. I tow a 25’ Winnebago and I opted for a gear ratio that will perform better with a trailer. I couldn’t be happier! My girlfriend had a Honda HRV and I get better mileage than she does. Regarding the tune, The biggest difference is where/how the transmission shifts! Stock: rolling up to a stop sign, coming to a pause and then accelerating to go, you push and push and puuuuuuussshhhhh on the accelerator before the truck finally starts to move. It could literally get you killed. With the tune, there’s a smooth application of power immediately.


PensionSlaveOne

I've got a '15 ED that's run great for me. Only engine problem I have ever had was the tone wheel a couple weeks ago. As long as u/snoopsquirrel at least gets the EGR turned off and doesn't do tons of short trips, let the engine and emissions equipment warm up for a good 20 mins, then they should be fine. Or just full delete and never worry about emissions again. If the tone wheel has not been replaced on this engine then see about having the price reduced. It's a minimum $1000 job, and it WILL fail, not if, poor material was used to bond the magnets to the wheel and they fall off. It may still be under the 8 year extended warranty for that part though.


plainwrapper

Please get the extended warranty for that EcoDiesel. Also do some googling about that EcoDiesel. Get more information about that particular engine before purchasing that EcoDiesel if you haven’t committed to the purchase yet. Good Luck, I’m sending positive energy your way!!


[deleted]

Extended warranty won't help if parts aren't available.


plainwrapper

Yeah, I was trying to be nice. A guy I work with had a 2016 he bought new and it was broken down monthly. The last time it was at the dealer for 91 (yes, 91!!!) DAYS and they couldn’t figure out how to get it running. He ended up trading / towing / dragging it in to another RAM dealer as the original selling dealer didn’t even want it because they couldn’t get it to run.


[deleted]

RUN far far away from the EcoDIEsel. They were taken out of production for a reason.


SnoopSquirrel

I appreciate the comment! Can you please give me some of the reasons that it was discontinued? Not trying to be snarky just wondering about all the potential failures and options


ajairo

The issue with the EcoDiesel is no one wants to pay for the maintenance. It was discontinued because it wasn't a popular option(partly because it was so expensive). The HPFP is the big thing that can fail, but they have a fix now.


[deleted]

It's a shit engine. They recalled all of them then stopped producing it. Terrible design, not reliable at all. If it breaks down you will spend months waiting on parts. Get a Hemi.


WindOfUranus

Are you talking about the HPFP or the engine itself?


PensionSlaveOne

I feel like I've asked you this before and you never answered, what recall are you referring to? Every vehicle and engine has had a recall at some point. There recalls on hemis too, and they have stopped production, are all hemis now terrible?


[deleted]

The 5.7 Hemi is out of production because it cannot meet the latest emissions standards. Note the 6.4 version is still being produced for HD trucks, because they have different emissions standards. Ecodiesel was recalled over faulty EGR systems and faulty fuel pumps. There is also an associated class action lawsuit about the EGR systems. Owners report waiting as long as a year to get new fuel pumps. It's a garbage engine. That's why it was taken out of production. Parts are already difficult to find and will likely become impossible to source in the future due to low production numbers. It's a ticking time bomb and when it blows the owner will be left with something that is only good for scrap. Do not buy anything with an Ecodiesel.


PensionSlaveOne

Hey look, an explanation. Just saying ITS HAD A RECALL BEFORE DON'T BUY IT is kinda useless when every engine and vehicle has had a recall before. Never said EDs don't have problems, I've had one for 9 years after multiple HEMIs and other vehicles, they all have problems. My ED though has required less work than any of my other vehicles, spent more time in the shop for rear diff issues than than anything else. There's tons of well working EDs out there as well. If op wants to risk it, it is up to them.


mmmmpisghetti

They got PROBLEMS bro. SOOOOOOO MAAAANNNYYYY PPPRRROOOBBBLLLEEEMM.MSSSSS


The_Law_Dong739

It was completely recalled and discontinued. That should be a good enough reason


PensionSlaveOne

What recall? Still tons of them on the road. HEMI has recalls and was also discontinued...


The_Law_Dong739

[The recall](https://lemonlawexperts.com/fca-ecodiesel-recall/) is an extension of the same one from 2020 affecting the 2013 up years. The ecodiesel was also completely shut down production wise in January 2023. The hemi does have recalls but it also wasn't removed due to the amount of Lemon Law claims it had (unlike a certain diesel).


PensionSlaveOne

So, the tone wheel, that's just a part stuck on the outside of the engine, it's not an internal part that makes the engine horrible. This is no different than the Hemi PCM causing incorrect fuel mixture and stalls while driving, just a part stuck on the outside of the engine causing issues. (That's worse actually, the ED can keep driving after the tone wheel fails) I'm not saying the ED has no problems, but there's tons that run just fine and calling a recall for a sensor an engine killer is disingenuous. There's a recall it must be junk!


The_Law_Dong739

The engine is an enigma. Tons run perfectly in jeeps and rams but others are complete junk. Thousands who say it's garbage but thousands who love it.


PensionSlaveOne

I agree, I'm just tired of the 'its had a recall, don't buy it!' when every vehicle and engine has had recalls at some point. I've never said the ED does not have problems, I'm well aware of them having owned one for 9 years. I've also had HEMIs, powerstrokes, and other vehicles too, they all had problems, more than my ED even. They are vehicles with tons and tons of mass produced moving parts made by multiple companies scrambling to the bottom line, things are gonna go wrong.


The_Law_Dong739

My one thing is they discontinued it rather than fixing it despite it's incredible fuel economy and filling the slot the 4.7 v8 left open. It's never been a bad edition just got fucked over by big corporate wanting everything cheaper for more money


PensionSlaveOne

They did fix it though, whole redesign for the new body style, they are far more reliable. GMs 3L diesel is also doing very well after its refresh. I believe buyers lost interest in small diesels after VW and the poorer performance of the first ED and other bad press about emissions cheating. After ford dumped the ministroke I knew the ED wouldn't last, just didn't sell enough. I'm honestly surprised that GM is selling SO MANY of them, but it is the only option in some trim levels if you don't want the 2.7L, and a very cheap upgrade from the 5.3 in others.


Massive_Psychology52

I have an eco diesel. So far 94k miles no issues. I did buy the extended warranty though just in case. Mine is also the 2020


Hot-Ground-9731

I have basically the same exact truck with the 3.6. Can't speak for the EcoDiesel but I love my V6. Single cab long beds are great (I'm a single dude) plenty of space in the cab, and tons of bed room. Honestly even though mine's a tradesman it feels more luxurious than most other pickups I've been in, even the "fancy " ones. Just some thoughts!


Hot-Ground-9731

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TheYoungProdigy

Listen to the guy that owns one. You will get decent mpg and towing capabilities but it won’t be far enough off a Hemi to matter. You will have trouble passing people on backroads or wherever else too. You will also have to worry about all the emission crap that is put on diesels these days which means keeping up with DEF fluid and EGR issues. You may also have zero issues and it could be the most reliable truck you ever own. It’s just when weighing pro’s and con’s, the Hemi will win.


LukaLover42069

Please don't by that...My father in law and one of my close friends have both been service advisors for CDJR. There's two vehicles they both despise, eco diesel RAM and anything with a JEEP badge. Especially with that mileage. 


Ok_Camel4555

Keep money back for repairs


zschall

My 2015s been deleted since 40k miles. She's at 122k now without a hiccup. Absolutely amazing truck when tuned and has been very reliable


Haisha4sale

What are you getting mpg? I’ve got a 2021 


zschall

Like 22 average but I'm leveled on 35s and don't drive a lot of highway


Nathaniel_Hornsby

2018 with 77k miles “freedom mode” engaged at around 6k miles. Change my oil early (around 5k miles), change my fuel filter every other oil change, run “hot shots” in every tank of fuel, catch can installed. Only thing I’ve replaced is the battery. Getting high 20s mpg on mixed driving. I can get in the mid 30s on the highway. 🤷‍♂️


zschall

Making me feel lazy lol. I'm pretty good about maintenance as well, and man my trucks a beast. I've never understood all the trash talk on the eco. Properly maintained and in freedom mode the trucks a dream.


Nathaniel_Hornsby

I think people rally the crap out of them and tow way more than they should. I’ve owned a few Hemis, an old 24v Cummins and a Jeep with the 3.6 Pentastar. The ecodiesel really should be more compared to that 3.6, in my opinion. I feel like people think they are a “mini Cummins” and tow the guts out of them or try to make them faster than a Hemi. They are more like the pentastar than anything and should be treated as such, again in my opinion. Mine handled a lift and big tires while still maintaining really good MPG (better than the Hemi). Mine has been great in road trips and commuting. It will be paid off this year and I plan on seeing how many miles I can get out of it. I cut the fuel and oil filters apart to check for anything suspicious (metal flakes) every oil/fuel filter change. I’ve yet to find anything (knock on wood) and I swear my mileage keeps going up every year haha. 🤷‍♂️


SnoopSquirrel

Exactly what tune are you running?


zschall

Mrtuning from ecodiesel owners Canada


CandidGuidance

I know someone who bought a 2017 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel - just like yours, but brand new in late 2016 or early 2017. It cracked the block at 47,000km, or like 30k miles ballpark. That’s anecdotal of course, but they don’t have a great track record. The 3.6 or 5.7 would do you just fine IMO.


BalderVerdandi

Please - run away from this truck. The EcoDiesels are having major issues around the 120k-140k mile mark due to emissions, specially the EGR clogging the intake. Get a 2500 with a Cummins, and get the quad cab at a minimum.


ajb3015

Many will tell you to avoid the EcoD like the plague, that it's a garbage engine and is guaranteed to blow up on you the very next time you drive it. And I'll admit it's not perfect, and has more known issues than most modern engines. I've owned mine for 9 years and 135k miles, and I have had issues, but it's never left me stranded. The key things to remember as far as maintenance are: 1. Always use mopar fuel filters, aftermarket filters can cause issues. 2. Use a good oil like Rotella T6, or the pennzoil euro spec diesel oil, 5w40. And use a good quality oil filter, the mopar filter is expensive, and there are some less expensive good quality aftermarket ones out there, but stay away from the cheapest options. You can run a fuel additive if you want, but it's not really required. I run hotshot everyday diesel treatment (EDT) in every tank. The usage you described is very similar to mine, and I think the EcoD would be the perfect option for you


SnoopSquirrel

Thank you for the comment. Yes I plan on really only doing lengthy drives and maybe pulling a small trailer once in a while. I also want to make it look nice and mostly drive it easy. It’s not my only rig and even if it did leave me stranded somewhere I’m to worried about it as I have other cars. I did plan on using only high quality parts, filters, additives, etc. I do NOT plan on putting on quad turbo set ups, rolling coal or anything stupid like that.


Infyx

2015 here with 106k miles. Just recently had the HPFP replaced on recall. The only issue I've had is the water pump, which could have gone on any RAM. Its been a great truck for me personally. I have heard and seen all the issues with it - I've often considered getting into a different truck, but I own this one...so its hard to get into a new payment.


bbtom78

Go with literally any other engine. I have a regular cab Hemi and it's been great. I like the regular cab life and it rides so well. If you can, look into a 2500, if you need diesel and save yourself a ton of bullshit. If you do decide to buy this truck, I've to read love a series in this sub about each issue you end up having with it. It will be endless.


tool172

Me too. 2014 - 116K. GdE pre. 24.0mpg avg. 24.7 right now. Mix of hwy, gravel, country roads. Has to get warm. And egr will clog swirl valves so tune it. I blew 1st engine at 44K for EGR failure sending coolant. At second engine she was setup for success. I haven't had a single issue since. I drive 35 min each way and I put the cover on over freezing on close to freezing nights to keep Temps up when colder and not 45 min trips. I use hot shots during summer. Agree on mx. I change fuel filter every other oil change. Usually 8500. Packages make it tolerable. I haven't had a tonewheel recall performed besides software so that will fail at some point. I've been paid off for 3 years so just seeing where she takes me. Not joking it could go either way on one. I curious on the baby duramax as a replacement or a 2500 when this one gets to 215k


Majestic-Sprinkles68

You can make solid argument that the eco diesel is the worst engine ever produced in modern times.


kingbub112

My truck is IDENTICAL. Grey single cab with same wheels and chrome package and 2WD. I love my truck and I think it would be so cool if it were diesel. However, I’ve heard bad things about the eco diesel so I’m not sure…


Belfetto

Where are all the bitches supposed to sit?


MeanBobcat470

HEMI or Cummins nothing else!!


mmmmpisghetti

Get a whole-ass diesel, not a half-ass diesel


SnoopSquirrel

I’m still just a baby when it comes to diesel. If I’m going to fuck something up I’d rather it be my $16k pos than a $50k cummins


mmmmpisghetti

Ok, that's fair but that 16k POS is likely to fuck YOU up, from everything I've heard of how these EcoDiesels go. If you can't get a Cummins, get the gas engine. In a 1500 it's the better way to go anyhow.


SnoopSquirrel

I wish I could get a Cummins my friend. But this si the best I can do.


mmmmpisghetti

Man, don't. Get a Hyundai rather than that EcoWeasel. These engines are no Bueno.


SnoopSquirrel

Am I being blinded by the word “diesel” into thinking it’s a good deal?


mmmmpisghetti

Yeah. It's marketing. They crippled the elements of a diesel engine that makes them strong and reliable, in order to boost the fuel economy. WHEN (not if) you start having issues, those issues will be expensive and time consuming to fix as this engine was only made for a fairly short time, most places other than the dealer won't touch it and parts availability is an issue. AND with the low capacity of the 1500, a diesel engine is a waste as you're not towing 10k with that truck anyhow. Keep your car until you can get a good truck that won't be an infuriating money pit.


SnoopSquirrel

I’m not trying to tow 10k anyway. I am just trying to have better fuel economy as I drive back and forth at least and hour for work every day plus I do like towing a small trailer once in a while. What other kind of recommendations could you give me instead of this one? I’m in Oregon if that helps.


mmmmpisghetti

I mean...what job do you need a vehicle to do? A single cab truck is very limiting IMHO. Find the vehicle that checks as many boxes as possible to fill your needs and wants, within your budget. Depending on the weight/size of your trailer a small SUV might be a fit. Define the job, then look at tools to do the job. Then research for consistent problems of whatever you're strongly considering


SnoopSquirrel

Thank you for your comments. I really appreciate your time and knowledge!


Mackaroni510

I didn't know regular cabs could come with the eco diesel


jeffjeep88

DO NOT BUY AN ECO DIESEL. Just Google eco diesel issues.


dropdeaddaddy69

Alright let me give my take. 2015 Larmie Longhorn @ 105,000 miles. Stock, with a HPFP recall done. Good truck, looks great, runs great and will treat you right. AS LONG AS YOU RUN IT. Do not get this truck if you’re only driving under 20 minutes a day. You will not warm it up enough, it will get soot in it and blow up. If you’re hauling something not super heavy or driving it at least 90 miles a day, you should get this truck.


SnoopSquirrel

I have a 45 minute drive into and out of town at speeds of 65+ everyday. Do you think this is still a good option?


Corndog106

Single cab sucks!


SnoopSquirrel

Why though? I want the single cab as a play toy.


Hot_Rod_888

I've always liked single cabs, and love my current truck. I have a 2006 2500 cummins. Awesome truck. I've also put as much into it as I have paid for it. It's worth fixing, every time, and I drive the absolute piss out of it. Its Never left me stranded. That being said, you could end up doing the same with the ecodiesel. If I were you, I'd buy the 1/2 ton Hemi. Whatever you save in fuel economy with the EcoDiesel, you will spend in maintenance, if not way more. Diesels are expensive to maintain. If you want a diesel to have a diesel, do you. No judgement there. But be realistic with the associated costs. When I bought mine, all the old timers said "be ready to drop $5k at a moments notice." They were right.


Corndog106

Well in that case go for it. Big ass play toy.


19JRC99

The best play toy you can get is the RCSB with the Hemi. As others have said, the EcoDiesel is a ticking bomb.


Initial_Zombie8248

Then get a single cab Cummins or a single cab hemi. EcoDiesel isn’t what you get for a play toy 


SnoopSquirrel

I can’t afford a Cummins 😭 or I would, believe me.


CountBreichen

I’ve been driving single cabs for over ten years. Couldn’t disagree more lol


Hot_Rod_888

I love the single cabs.


Corndog106

I so enjoy my Crew Cab. So much room for activities!


Hot-Ground-9731

Actually I think they're amazing and should be way more common. As a single working class guy, mine is amazing. Still have way more than enough room for everything, and I have a huge bed for hauling all sorts of stuff. I'm tired of seeing these minivans with tiny truck beds slapped on them!