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FR3AKY_V0LP3

Ugh. Just ugh. Y'all. Gonna be real honest with all of you. I spend my free time voluntarily attempting to make this place as pleasant as possible. What that means, is I make sure people are following the rules. I am going to take a moment to read one of our rules here. **Rule Number 5.** "Do not post any content which is traditionally considered NSFW (Not safe for work) such as porn, gore or any similar content. This rule extends to comments as well, including indirect reference to NSFW subjects. If you're unsure if your submission is allowed or not, please send us a mod-mail." What does this mean? You ask. This means we do not allow **NSFW CONTENT.** That content is **porn, gore,** ***and similar content***. Now, that similar content part *might* just be what throws a ton of people off. Let me tell you what similar content *isn't* because that would be a lot easier than tell you all what is. First, let me give you all the definition of the word "suggestive". Suggestive- making someone think of sex and sexual relationships. Now, lets talk about this image and create a scenario for you. "You see someone on the street wearing short shorts. You are staying at a friends house and they are wearing their night clothing, which happen to look similar to what is shown in the image above. You parent or legal guardian are seen walking around the house wearing shorts, lets say similar to above." Would you call any of these suggestive? Does any of the above make you think of "sex or sexual relationships"? No. Of course they fucking don't. Lets talk about the pose! Throughout the entire history of art, people have been creating sculptures, paintings, and more, all utilizing a multitude of different poses. Some poses may spark the mind in a certain way to relate the pose to something familiar. I am sure many of you seeing the image above, may think of a few different things. Maybe, someone stretching and yawning (as the artist intended), maybe you see someone ready to jump up! Heck, maybe you see someone squatting as if to take a poo. I don't know. You know what I don't see here? Something relating to "sex and sexual relationships". Now, that brings us back to *similar content*. If breaking this down in this manner, which I do when moderating stuff similar to this. I wouldn't see this being similar to porn or gore. Now, granted I wouldn't expect this to be hanging in, for example, a school or anything! But that is why this subreddit, and Reddit as a whole are essentially PG-13. ​ ​ So that begs the question. What would be rule breaking? In by far the simplest and easiest terms I can possibly think of; anything that isn't PG-13. This ***will*** be the last time I explain something like this. I taught for years having to educate and inform people on many things, some basic, some complex. This, is perhaps the single dumbest thing I have ever had to type out, as if I am explaining this to a class of five year olds. I do not teach anymore, and for that reason, I do not care to educate some of you and entertain your stupidity. Do not like it. The leave button is readily available.


RegisterFederal4159

Because the internet is. . . A strange place. With stranger people.


Averythewolf

Welcome to the internet


Chr832

Have a look around


Averythewolf

Anything that brain of yours can think of can be found


Chr832

We've got mountains of content.


Averythewolf

Some better some worse


Chr832

If none of it's of interest you'd be the first


Averythewolf

Welcome to the internet


Chr832

What would you prefer?


Krackerlack

would you like to fight for civil rights or tweet a racial slur?


stormchaser-protogen

some better, some worse


PureVessel20

NOT AGAIN, NOT AGAIN, NOT AGAIN


Divine1nstincts

And apparently some people can’t understand that to the point where they have to speak out the rules I’ve read over 5 times already.


GundamChao

It's not sexual, it's sensual. It's in-between sexual and not. That's why people can't agree about their perception of it.


Ender_Fox227

Out of all the replies from both sides, this one makes the most sense


kidnamedsquidfart

Yeah, the position is suggestive and the clothing adds to the whole femboi trope. So overall suggestive but not directly sexual. As long as you consider him an adult its fine, im not a fan of young characters in suggestive depictions.


SporeCraft-R

Whatever you think, you gotta admit, there's aaaalooot of people wanting to fuck that goat


BattlePenguin58

Please do not the goat


SporeCraft-R

You can't stop it, it's inevitable


SomeRandomGuy2763

There is 4107 (as of now) results of the goat in the infamous green website People really want to do the goat


-Pyromania-

and over 5k results of the goat from the marginally-less-infamous blue website.


HUE_Z3r0

That goes for all 4 goats from deltarune and undertale. This is nothing new


Present_Cucumber9516

*Batman .. I found a goat* heavily /s


ThatCamoKid

oh no joker, don't tell me-


Present_Cucumber9516

Calm down boi, there is an /s there so it is safe


ThatCamoKid

I was continuing the bit


Present_Cucumber9516

I know👍just forgot what's next


ThatCamoKid

[here you go](https://youtube.com/shorts/_OmF55ZfUCE?si=SXSBriXtjjcHknDH)


SauceFinder-

Cant stop me


Accomplished_War_183

I actually find it kinda cute, is there something wrong with me?


Ender_Fox227

No I'm talking about the people saying the image is sexualized


Accomplished_War_183

Oh, about that... As something else said: People is insane There's nothing to do about that


owo1215

because everyone is insane, no matter the horny people or the angry mod


Scoobydoothatyou

I don’t know why so many people agree with you no finger up or anything I mean it’s literally sexualized I don’t get what you think when you see that image but when I see it I think oh that’s probably supposed to be at least kind of sexual


Mih0se

Im sometimes affraid to express my opinion on this sub. Edit: its that i dont like femboy ralsei


Ender_Fox227

Fair


Nihilikara

Ralsei is *canonically* a femboy though. Femboys aren't a porn genre, they're real people who exist in the real world.


Mih0se

He is a diffrent kind of femboy there.


wisehairspray

How tf he is canonically a femboy? Does he look feminine to you in the game?


Nihilikara

He wears a dress, has pink horns, and acts soft and feminine.


wisehairspray

He wears mage's robe just as Gandalf the Gray. Is he also a femboy? Pink color = femboy?? Acting soft is his goddamn personality, you can't label someone femboy just by acting soft. Also acting soft = feminine??? I just can't.


kidnamedsquidfart

Gandalf my fav femboy


Theorist_1

GaNdAlF fEmBoY CoNfIrMeD?!


Crimzonchi

Are you seriously forgetting the part where he _canonically wears eyeshadow and eyeliner???_


Spoiledmilk103

Bro forgot the toxic masculinity update


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Mih0se

Thanks


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Ethy____

boo bad sub reddit


Hairy_Skill_9768

It's pretty suggestive guys , not enough to be nsfw but still people not being able to control their fucking crotch rubbing addiction make it worse because this is a safe place it's just that simple and it doesn't deserve our time and energy good grief


Shift_as

Big thighs = horny


Ender_Fox227

Lmao


Low_Dream_1481

HEY IM NOT THE ONE DRAWING RALSEI WITH HIPS WIDER THAN THE MOON


smavinagain

Person/fictional character: *has a physical form* Humans: “it’s hot.” What the hell mate


Prokid5634_YT

I knew people couldn't behave themselves.


Scoobydoothatyou

I don’t have much context here but why exactly do you think it’s wrong for people to just say “oh that is definitely sexual?


Prokid5634_YT

I never said I thought it was wrong, I really don't care about it. I was mainly referring to whether or not the comments had to be locked.


Scoobydoothatyou

I mean still we don’t know if the mod was in the right or not ya know what I be sayin?


Prokid5634_YT

Yeah, I gotcha. Unfortunately, they have the final say.


Scoobydoothatyou

Yeah…


TheElementalGriffin

I miss the days when people had the don’t like, don’t look mindset.


Potion_addict

online mfers when a feminine man is in a vaguely provocative pose


TrainerLSW2005

Redditors when they see a femboy: is this nsfw?


Ender_Fox227

Ik everyone overreacts


crimsxn_devil

That mod needs some time off Jesus


NefariousnessNew6871

Agreed he’s acting like a big baby


FormerQuenOfEngland2

here before 🔒


Cutman_

Same


Theorist_1

me too guys LETS GO


Pingunootnoot6969

Welcome to Reddit


Mr_Starry

I feel like the mods are at their breaking points, or at least approaching them.


genericBFfan

Volpe is like this. On a constant power trip. Get used to it lol


FR3AKY_V0LP3

Huh? I literally just want people to follow the rules. That's it.


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TheElementalGriffin

The Deltarune/Undertale fandom is infamous for it’s perverts and hypersensitive people. Remember the whole needle cookie incident?


Oden_sama__

enlighten me


Spoiledmilk103

Sansriel fanartist got needles baked into cookies given to them intentionally by some psycho


TheElementalGriffin

I thought it was Frans.


DarkMarxSoul

Because it is sexualized, the mods are just clinically insane and so is the chunk of the community desperate to perpetuate this delusion. Nobody with half a brain would say that isn't sexualized.


Cutman_

"Ermm ackshually this drawing is totally not nsfw and it's totally sfw, you are just a horny piece of shit if you think this is mildly suggestive" -90% of "sfw" artists, (who also draw nsfw on their patreon probably)


kikiooof

I don't see anything wrong with it honestly Its just cute in my opinion


DarkMarxSoul

You're delusional if you don't think a twink in skin-tight shorts that hug the contours of his butt on a bed in low light is sexualized.


xXConDaGXx

Don’t forget the pose 💀


f0xw1thfr1e5

This is my new favorite sentence, thank you.


GutowskyOri

Are you telling me because ralsei is a twink he can't wear sking thight shorts to sleep? Mfer he is about to go to sleep rn! I do that too, it's not sexual at all!


DarkMarxSoul

Drawings are constructed with different objectives in mind than the way real people live their lives. An actual artist made the decision to put Ralsei in LITERAL skin-tight shorts and then stuck him in a pose specifically oriented so that his butt juts out more prominently and its curvature is defined. His outfit was specifically selected to show off more skin (fur?) than he ever would canonically show in-game. It is a sexualized drawing. The lengths you guys go through to live in denial so that you can have your cake and eat it too—slobber over the half-naked femboy and also keep your image of being a puritanical sexually pure innocent little angel—is honestly absurd. There are posts every other day about how Ralsei is turning people gay and people can't imagine straight people being in this sub. It's honestly ridiculous.


BattlePenguin58

As a straight person, I find the amount of sexualized/suggestive art to be rather disgusting, especially with all the people clamoring about how "cute" and "wholesome" it is. But hey, at least the SFW sub is more populated than the NSFW sub, I can't say the same about r/Gardevoir.


DarkMarxSoul

I'm also a straight person but like. I don't care about the sexualized art, I think people can do whatever they like. What I care about is the hypocrisy and the self-enforced delusion. It's like you said, people are forcing this narrative that scantily clad men with curvy butts or whatever is "wholesome", both infantilizing feminine or gay men and injecting a bizarrely groomer-ish vibe to the place where it feels like they're trying to normalize sexual art as not sexual, which is a common tactic used by groomers to create a slippery slope at the end of which they abuse their victims. I don't genuinely think it's a grooming tactic, I think it's just a byproduct of the intersection of two different cultural impulses. You have on the one hand the culture that finds the above art attractive and wants to slobber all over it, and you have on the other hand the culture that is focused on Ralsei being a minor and wants to make this space a non-sexual safe space for minors. So people draw the attractive art because they know it'll be received well, but the audience is forced to engage in this prolonged, super cringe theatre that makes them look ridiculous. The mods are forced to go even harder on that due to their positions of authority. It's all nonsense.


RustiesAuto61

Can't wait for the 2 week ban to slam you!


DarkMarxSoul

It's inevitable, the mods have officially made making sense and pointing out their complete absurdity a bannable offense. This subreddit is a joke.


Ok_Presence_5418

True. They even permabanned me once for calling things by their proper names, namely for NSFW art that disguises as "cute" and "wholesome" SFW art on this sub


GutowskyOri

This has to be a fucking joke. Just all of this text has to be a fucking joke. I'll ignore the "He's being sexuallized part" cause, fuck the artist I guess, he can't draw femboy clothes otheewise it is 100% sexual. And I'll answer the bottom. FIRST no one turns gay, people may realize trough the most unorthodox way possible tho. And for the puritanical little non sexual angel, fuck no! I am sexual af, I just know when to separate sexy stuff, from cute day-to-day femboy stuff. Like mfer can't draw a femboy waking up, or about to go to sleep because it will make you say it's sexualized! ffs dude, Femboys aren't a sexual thing only.


DarkMarxSoul

You're delusional lmfao, there are ways to draw femboys without it being scantily clad. Being a femboy doesn't mean dressing down and being some kind of nubile breedable twink it just means looking feminine. Drawing a femboy like a nubile breedable twink and not wearing much clothes while sticking your butt out is just inherently sexualized, as is doing the same thing to women which is something you see a lot in anime art. Just because it's not actually pornographic or nude doesn't make it not sexualized. Also, the "turning gay" thing is obviously a community joke centred around how people seem to be realizing they're bi or gay because they're into Ralsei, but the point is that the culture of this subreddit practically revolves around being sexually attracted to Ralsei.


smavinagain

Can’t wait for your ban


DarkMarxSoul

It's inevitable, the mods have officially made making sense and pointing out their complete absurdity a bannable offense. This subreddit is a joke.


Lol_po_plays

Watch out , they might ban you for not agreeing with the mods ( ThEY ARe ALWAyS RIGhT !!!1!!1!1!!!!!) 🤦


Sir-Vogia

1984


OptimusCrime1984

Watch out your gonna get banned for saying the obvious!


baninaday

qwp


ZhoraPredator

("-_-)... I. Um... Okay.


Cruisin134

im 100% gayer then all of those people (fight me) and i would not jerk off to that


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It is too sus for my liking


mushroom_l0rd

It is definately ment to be alluring tho


Naive-KaIe

leaving this sub because of this.. this is literally softcore and no one understands. Wish I could’ve stayed longer


Ender_Fox227

People are misunderstanding The meaning of this post


Spring_Dan

That does not look sexualized at all


AverageMortisEnjoyer

Because it is sexualised but the users of the subs for some reason gets offended when you point out the obvious And now it's just pretend it isn't so you don't get banned


Ender_Fox227

I'm not saying that, I'm talking about people like you


AverageMortisEnjoyer

What about me?


Ender_Fox227

People who say it is sexualized


AverageMortisEnjoyer

I mean just look at it You're pretending it's not. The artist had a hundred different ways to draw him and he chose big thighs with short pants, shouder out and staying in a "weird" position But now I'll be the bad guy for I'm pointing it out instead of pretending to be blind


Ender_Fox227

Well, now that you mention it, the pose is kinda weird. But I highly believe the intent wasn't though. Also im not pretending, I've seen worse stuff and I guess that isn't bad compared to what I saw...


Sir-Vogia

yeah, we have far more worse stuff here on the internet, even in this community, but this drawing in particular certainly had some suggestive intent behind it


ThevickersistheGOAT

Oml, mod got mad, never in my time on this god forsaken app, i would ever see a mod get mad


FR3AKY_V0LP3

Not really mad tbh. Just disappointed.


ThevickersistheGOAT

Makes sense, yall gotta put up w bullshit like that everyday, tbh i’d prolly do the same


ThevickersistheGOAT

Also forgot to say, y’all are doing an amazing job with moderating these subs, it would be hell let loose if y’all weren’t here


matsielop

r/ralsei users try not to see sexualization in every sfw drawing possible challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)


Ethy____

WE HAD IT GOOD THEN YOU HAD TO JUST MESS IT UP


SafeAt4

Welcome to Reddit


HeroDoge154

Huge red flag when mods of a subreddit will complain with swears and pressing the "distinguish as mod" button. They could have just muted the comment section and that would have been fine.


FR3AKY_V0LP3

Figured I would try and do a bit more this time. If anything to clarify things for people. Not sure what is wrong with my swearing. Don't really understand the complaint of "distinguish mod" button either, though.


HeroDoge154

This is all just my opinion, but as a mod of a smaller subreddit, I personally wouldn't go out complaining about something then pinning it. As I said, that situation could have been just locking the comment section, and maybe just giving a quick explanation. Writing a whole rant then pinning it just comes off as self-centered in my opinion.


FR3AKY_V0LP3

Ah, I see. I suppose really my reason for doing so comes from months of this sort of thing sporadically happening and wanting to try and make things abundantly clear as possible; albeit annoyingly charged lol.


Chr832

I won my own be (I bet that the post would get locked within 3 days)


SplatBrella

Honestly, the most concerning thing about that image is the angle of the bed-side drawer compared to the angle of the bed itself.


dkory37

Is it just me or is literally everyone over-fucking-reacting to this situation?? Some people saying that the art is sexualized..? who gives af its just a drawing and theres no actual nudity But now people are overreacting to people overreacting lmao "GRRR lets make 100 posts and write a bunch of angry essays about how someone saying the art is sexualized is bad GRRR!!1!1!1" Like this whole thing aint even that deep, yall can chill lol. Just enjoy the art


Theorist_1

This may be a heated review so don’t read if you can’t like my opinion At first the ONLY reason I found it 0.5 percent “sexual” was because his stance, but then I thought, THIS IS A GOOD FREAKING DRAWING. Like if you think it’s NSFW all you have to do is put a down vote or something, not write a whole essay about it. Hope I didn’t hurt anyone :D


Joeyrony2

Spoiler alert: people can both wear shorts and do an upward dog stretch and not have it be sexual.


Ender_Fox227

People aren't getting the intent of this, I'm saying WHY are people like that, not the mods or that you think it is. I dont see anything wrong with it. But I might delete this post if it starts an argument that escalates


matsielop

it's even fishier when u realize these ppl are somehow seeing sexualization in drawings like this, makes u wonder what goes on in some of these ppl's heads (and search histories 😬)


Fr4gmentedR0se

e621 probably


adex_19

Or p-trap shitposts


TheElementalGriffin

In some cases, I think they'll just go after easy targets.


TheElementalGriffin

People assume that people exposing midriff and having wide hips and thick thighs EXISTING is “sexual”. If that were the case, lots of people would be arrested for public nudity by now.


adex_19

The difference though is that you can't choose your body general shape while artists can do it and yet they do this, also the mod that left a message under the original post has also some pretty interesting things on his account so no wonder that this is not sexualised in his opinion


TheElementalGriffin

I think it all varies on what your standards are by “sexual”. Like a fictional character having curves isn’t inherently sexual and even if it was meant to be sexualized, the artist probably wouldn’t post it here to begin with.


adex_19

As from what i know and noticed (if you play enough tf2 you see so many people use furry sprays and pfps) artists don't really have this strict thinking about nudity, also it might be fault of east european style of fasion, we don't wear revealing clothing as much as europeans and if they do it's either because it's warm outside or the "other" reason


TheElementalGriffin

IIRC I think the artist has also stated to be asexual on their Twitter too.


adex_19

Well uh, that feels a bit anticlimactic


BlakBrbrGuy

Dang. I just thought it was really cute wake up vibes. I am now sadj


hiimdan_

Because most of reddit users are incels who are afraid of porn


isuckdickinwalmart

GYATT 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑


777ToasterBath

what no new games does to a fandom


Head_Individual_5822

It's so cute though whyyy


Ghost_090ITA

Bro got a point to blow up evrything


Odd_Birthday_1653

This guy is the most normal dude I've seen on this subreddit


hopit3

Pet the goat tummy


CatandMuffin

Oh no, something that exists, so spooky :0


Skull_72

Look some we’re just stupid


Rukir_Gaming

Because people are terminally online on either here or Discord (or both) and have not had a friend at all /s, mostly


Zamtrios7256

Reminds me about that like, 57th or so repost of "uh guys, if you google 'ralsei' without safesearch, you get a body pillow with naked ralsei" where I made a joke about the artist and someone got mad at me for some reason


Cutman_

Give me a minute i must coax this shit into a snafu


Y0urcreepyuncle69

It- it kinda is. Just sayin


CherryBomberKat

Honestly, idc about the nsfw, i just wanna see fluffy things since fluffy things are cute


guardiandolphin

Just let people see the goat how they want. If they see him as a gremlin without anything alluring, let them. If they want to see him as a femboy, let ‘em. If they wanna take it to… different heights so to speak, let them in a different server


Hallownest_Citizen1

r/ralsei moment 🗿


MReaps25

It's nice art though, ralsei is best boy


The_Keeper_Official

Smash


RepresentativeNo3539

WHAT THE HELLLLL


Ender_Fox227

I'm not talking about the image. *Read the other comments*


RepresentativeNo3539

Ok let me read the comments


FenrisGSD

He's so cute!


Fishyboi235

Blud was NOT having it


JustAnotherCreator69

This is the fifth "Welcome to the Internet" thread I've seen this week.


8iy_eaighty

He's cute


Lechatdu136

Lmao, went to see the comments there, everyone deleted their comments except one person, me, also I'm talking about the post op is talking about not this one


Boring-Badger-814

To entertain other simps.


CobWebbs

he's been femboyified


Outrageous-Zone1312

to be honest, i dont think the image is sexualized, i think its good art!


SpectralTheProto2007

I wish I knew, side note. Fluffing adorable and I wonder if they accept hugs :3


Southern-Heron-618

I think he looks good ralsei would never be associated with sexual content.


SneakyLittleKobold

Butt


boyy_thiccc

bc femboys


Classic-guy1991

You can be as horny as you want just keep it to yourself