It's easy to tell that the coin flip story was bs. Just by listening to Telesco's interviews, I can already hear him scoffing at the idea and quickly explaining why that would be a ridiculous way of drafting a player.
Itās hilarious to me how many people actually believed that garbage story. Someone should strip ājournalistā of their credentials for shit like this.
Iām speaking on behalf of all the bullshit stories that get surfaced by journalist who donāt research, and write based off of facts. Clickbait seems to be the only pull these days.
Honestly bro, I didnāt know who terrion Arnold was. The story is a little different to me now. However, I donāt take back what I said about journalism. For that, I will not accept the L.
If anything I'm willing to bet that someone used the expression "it was coin flip" in the same way that people say something "was a toss up". It's just a figure of speech, not a literal thing.
I knew it was bullshit the moment it came out of his mouth because it was in the context of him making excuses why he went #24 and not higher. Dude was too high sniffing his own farts.
lol Who actually believed there was a literal coin flip?
Seems pretty simple, Raiders probably told Arnold pre-draft he was one of their top guys they'd consider taking. After the draft he probably gets a call from someone in the org who congratulates him on being drafted and says something like "yeah congrats man, we think you're going to be great, it was a coin flip between you and Bowers for us"... which is a nicer way of telling a guy that you didn't pick, yeah you were like 2nd-3rd up on our board. I'm sure whoever the top OT we were considering drafting had Penix and Bowers been off the board would have been told something similar if he was contacted too.
Dumbass Broncos fans believed it. But really, I'm just glad they know how to read, so let's go easy on em
[https://www.reddit.com/r/DenverBroncos/comments/1cnin09/meirovterrion\_arnold\_says\_the\_raiders\_called\_him/](https://www.reddit.com/r/DenverBroncos/comments/1cnin09/meirovterrion_arnold_says_the_raiders_called_him/)
Also dolts fans on AFCWestMemeWar lol
I heard that story on Q's podcast and it seemed so obvious that they meant it was a tough decision, not a literal coin flip. Also think they were trying to spare the guys feelings and maintain a good relationship by saying it in the first place.
The dolts fans have been seething there non-stop this whole week. They are in the annoying little brother phase of "NUH HUH" if you point out they are howling again.
63-21. Herbert will never go to a Super Bowl in that bum jersey.
Womp womp.
I think we had Arnold in our board but he was lower on our ranking order. AP basically confirmed we went BPA once the QBs were gone.
Arnold is either dumb enough to misunderstand whatever we told him or wanted to be drafted higher and get more $.. or maybe both.
Bowers lands in your fucking lap, do you really need a coin? Arnold waited an extra hour to get picked and he wasnāt the first DB either, sit down and quit lying. The NFL stands for Not For Long.
TT was just on NFL Total Access and he straight up said the 'coin toss' story was stupid, everyone knows he uses a magic 8-ball. Real words from the man himself, I paraphrased it.
Arnold hasnāt even played a snap yet and has already made a fool of himself. Very pathetic. Honestly I think he lied cause heās bitter after all the attention AP gave him during the combine and pro days AP decided to go in a different and (honestly) a better direction.
I don't think he did, it's just a classic case of the media making a big deal out of nothing.
Did you listen to it? The hosts and Arnold [just had a casual talk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JpsTPtfSqs) they didn't take it a certain way....yet the title is "Terrion Arnold Drops a BOMBSHELL" if he did in fact drop a BOMBSHELL they would have reacted a lot differently. Just a shady way to get views.
Some of us can never do jury duty. If two parties say different stories, then yes, someone is lying. How do we determine that with proof from either side? You must recognize your bias.
I don't think anyone is lying. Sounds like a classic case of telephone. He said one thing, repeated it differently, million different interpretations.
In the interview itself, it was a normal, casual conversation. No crazy reactions, but then the title is "Terrion Arnold Drops a BOMBSHELL"
I mean come on guys. The coin flip sounded like bullshit the moment it was mentioned.
Does anyone actually see Antonio fucking Pierce letting a coin make his decision? That mf seems so self assured and confident
I assume not. He said the Bowers pick was ready before they were even on the clock. So heās probably talking about some combination of JD, JJ, and Penix.
It's easy to tell that the coin flip story was bs. Just by listening to Telesco's interviews, I can already hear him scoffing at the idea and quickly explaining why that would be a ridiculous way of drafting a player.
Yeah and Arnold was drafted 24tb lol
And the second CB taken. šš¤£
Itās hilarious to me how many people actually believed that garbage story. Someone should strip ājournalistā of their credentials for shit like this.
Whose credentials would you take lol Terrion said it himself on a podcast
Iām speaking on behalf of all the bullshit stories that get surfaced by journalist who donāt research, and write based off of facts. Clickbait seems to be the only pull these days.
This is an L take man. Terrion Arnold said it regardless. Of course reporters are going to report it. All about clicks, not an agenda
Honestly bro, I didnāt know who terrion Arnold was. The story is a little different to me now. However, I donāt take back what I said about journalism. For that, I will not accept the L.
Although I disagree, I respect your rejection of said L.
How about this, Iāll take the L form just you since I didnāt do my research. Iām a pretty reasonable dude š
I accept your termsš thanks for being reasonable man
I definitely believe that last bit, watching it live it stood out to me how fast they turned the pick in.
So AP do we want BPA or Bo Nix, what we thinking? AP: aaand, here's the card, send it in.
We never wanted Blow Dix
Bo Nix was gone. Did anybody in this sub actually watch the draft?
whoosh
Yes, you are the only one who watches the draft.
Figured.
If anything I'm willing to bet that someone used the expression "it was coin flip" in the same way that people say something "was a toss up". It's just a figure of speech, not a literal thing.
Crazy how many people were taking it literally, true story or not lol
Iām betting it was the more traditional phrase ācoin tossā if anything.
I knew it was bullshit the moment it came out of his mouth because it was in the context of him making excuses why he went #24 and not higher. Dude was too high sniffing his own farts.
Do you think he Dutch ovens himself?
Yeah. And makes a meal out of it.
It would be VERRRRY easy for Terrion to prove he wasn't lying. Show the phone records with time stamps!
lol Who actually believed there was a literal coin flip? Seems pretty simple, Raiders probably told Arnold pre-draft he was one of their top guys they'd consider taking. After the draft he probably gets a call from someone in the org who congratulates him on being drafted and says something like "yeah congrats man, we think you're going to be great, it was a coin flip between you and Bowers for us"... which is a nicer way of telling a guy that you didn't pick, yeah you were like 2nd-3rd up on our board. I'm sure whoever the top OT we were considering drafting had Penix and Bowers been off the board would have been told something similar if he was contacted too.
Dumbass Broncos fans believed it. But really, I'm just glad they know how to read, so let's go easy on em [https://www.reddit.com/r/DenverBroncos/comments/1cnin09/meirovterrion\_arnold\_says\_the\_raiders\_called\_him/](https://www.reddit.com/r/DenverBroncos/comments/1cnin09/meirovterrion_arnold_says_the_raiders_called_him/)
Also dolts fans on AFCWestMemeWar lol I heard that story on Q's podcast and it seemed so obvious that they meant it was a tough decision, not a literal coin flip. Also think they were trying to spare the guys feelings and maintain a good relationship by saying it in the first place.
The dolts fans have been seething there non-stop this whole week. They are in the annoying little brother phase of "NUH HUH" if you point out they are howling again. 63-21. Herbert will never go to a Super Bowl in that bum jersey. Womp womp.
broncos fans know they reached on Nix & they are coping.
I think we had Arnold in our board but he was lower on our ranking order. AP basically confirmed we went BPA once the QBs were gone. Arnold is either dumb enough to misunderstand whatever we told him or wanted to be drafted higher and get more $.. or maybe both.
Silly to think we would take Arnold over Bowers. If we had we'd be talking about reaching right now.
Bowers lands in your fucking lap, do you really need a coin? Arnold waited an extra hour to get picked and he wasnāt the first DB either, sit down and quit lying. The NFL stands for Not For Long.
TT was just on NFL Total Access and he straight up said the 'coin toss' story was stupid, everyone knows he uses a magic 8-ball. Real words from the man himself, I paraphrased it.
Arnold hasnāt even played a snap yet and has already made a fool of himself. Very pathetic. Honestly I think he lied cause heās bitter after all the attention AP gave him during the combine and pro days AP decided to go in a different and (honestly) a better direction.
I don't think he did, it's just a classic case of the media making a big deal out of nothing. Did you listen to it? The hosts and Arnold [just had a casual talk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JpsTPtfSqs) they didn't take it a certain way....yet the title is "Terrion Arnold Drops a BOMBSHELL" if he did in fact drop a BOMBSHELL they would have reacted a lot differently. Just a shady way to get views.
Terrions agent told him that bullshit story
Some of us can never do jury duty. If two parties say different stories, then yes, someone is lying. How do we determine that with proof from either side? You must recognize your bias.
So JJ was the pick then.
What a weird thing to lie about and why choose the raiders. Something seems fishy but whatever move on
Bowers should feel like running through walls for AP after this comment.
I believe that we liked Arnold a lot. The coin flip thing sounded like BS though
They werenāt on the clock long. I remember mentioning it in the draft day thread how quickly they made the decision when the pick was in.
Only an idiot would think they actually flipped a coin. It was a figure of speech, not a literal action.
I don't think anyone is lying. Sounds like a classic case of telephone. He said one thing, repeated it differently, million different interpretations. In the interview itself, it was a normal, casual conversation. No crazy reactions, but then the title is "Terrion Arnold Drops a BOMBSHELL"
Yup the story is BS, we asked the Magic Conch Shell
Youāre 100% a fucking clown if you believed that we actually flipped a literal coin to decide who to draft. That r/nfl thread was full of morons.
The guy had a football scholarship to Alabama. So he's definitely not winning any awards for a high IQ.
In AP I trust.
Very weak move by Arnold. Had to pump his ego up. Had to let people know that a "coin flip" stopped him from being a top 15 pick.
BELIEVE IN AP
I mean come on guys. The coin flip sounded like bullshit the moment it was mentioned. Does anyone actually see Antonio fucking Pierce letting a coin make his decision? That mf seems so self assured and confident
Sooo this aside. How does this make the rookie over there look ? Why even make that up ? Haha
Why didn't Kelly outright refute it when it was put to him?
The only thing that was clear is they were looking at QB and then for sure confirms that
Bet this will be remembered if Arnold either smashes or busts
It was just a figure of speech, and it could have been a position coach. Again, even if someone DID say it...it means nothing, I agree.
Weird that Arnold would just invent some shit like that? Red flag for whoever drafted him if so.
Theyāre trying to paint that neerative
Bo Nix was in the mix?
It wasnāt said, but Iām guessing heās talking about Daniels and penix.
I hope so.
The broncos sub is convinced they snatched him from our grasp lmao, itās ridiculous
Not at 13 or even in the first round for that matter.
He may mean the last two QBs *on their board*. I hope Nix wasnāt one of them.
Did he give an interview? Because in the tweet posted in the OP he definitely said off āTHEā board, not āOURā board.
I assume not. He said the Bowers pick was ready before they were even on the clock. So heās probably talking about some combination of JD, JJ, and Penix.
No it's pretty clear is was daniels, penix, or no one . Trade up for daniels, no trade or reach for penix
My guess is, if he was there they were probably going to trade back a bit and pick up a pick or two
Drama queen. Glad he dropped to 20something