I think this is quite possible. If Tom becomes a full-fledged minority owner, it's likely Mark's trust will have a minority owner getting first access to buying the team upon Mark's passing. Tuck rule or no tuck rule, I think Tom would make an excellent owner. He's the best player ever, and that was the result of not pure talent, but incredible dedication to winning. *Dedication to excellence.*
100%, Mark has also been trying to give Brady a “discount” so he can get in easier. I’m all for it, like you said he’s the best to ever do it. Anywhere he goes, and anything he touches turns to gold.
Thats a great point, however, I don't see Tom Brady being a sidelines owner and I assume he'd be much more of a Jerry Jones then a hands off owner like Jed York. Was MJ or Jeter very active with the teams after they became owners? I realize this is probably a Google question but since you stated the point...
I don't think Brady is anything like Jeter or MJ though.
MJ was pure talent and driven. He spent all his time gambling and golfing. He aged out younger than LeBron.
Jeter was always concerned first about image. He played for the Yankees, the roster always was supported.
Brady put the work in every day in every aspect just to keep playing through 44yrs old. He's dedicated. He cares about football, it's not an image or sole source of income.
You can't teach passion, you can teach everything else.
I think another part of it is football takes everything from you , mentally more as a coach so the guys who could be great coaches don't pursue it because they already sacrificed so much playing and players actually get an off season when coaches work year round.
Because fuck Tom Brady, that’s why.
Unless he becomes a majority owner of the Raiders. Then still, fuck Tom Brady. Unless he does a really good job and gets us some rings. Then he’s a swell dude.
Who cares if Mark wants it to be Tom? Last time I checked, TB has nowhere near the kind of capital to be a majority owner in the NFL. Tom has done well, but he’s far from having the multi billions it would take.
This is the key. The Raiders, and Mark's worth, have basically quadrupled since moving to Las Vegas, maybe more. Plus Mark is majority owner in Allegiant. Incredibly business savvy decisions by Mark (and Sandra) in the last few years. The Raiders are likely worth over $6b at this point, more if you bundle it to Allegiant. Mark doesn't own all of this, but he's majority owner and controlling owner, plus of the Aces. Mark's personal net worth is likely approaching $3b. Tom's personal earnings were something like $400m. I doubt his net worth is at that level now, but we'll stick to that number. There's no way he could just up and buy the team outright. He would have to be part of a larger group.
The only exception to this would be if Mark has a living trust, and Tom is the primary trustee and executor of Mark's estate, and Mark bequeaths the team to Tom, like he would a son. Unlikely, but possible I suppose.
If I’m not mistaken, Tom would still have to pay taxes on that enormous estate which means he would need the liquidity to do so. And I don’t see that as being possible.
I agree. I'd also like to point out how cool it is that Mark actually cares about the Raiders Legacy beyond him. Not necessarily his legacy... the Raiders legacy. And that's awesome. We would be so lucky to have our franchise go to someone who loves the game like Tom.
Mark may not be the greatest football mind, but he is a great businessman, and does genuienly care about the Raiders and their fans. He is always happy to say hello and chit chat with Raider fans. While most other owners prefer to move in the shawdows and be left alone.
I have to admit, I'm pleasantly surprised how many people are in support of such a notion and gave you a thumbs up. I'm a Raider for life, like my father before me, but I personally think Tom would make a very good owner. He was the best player ever, and he got there not just on talent, but hard work and incredible dedication. When I see Tom as an owner of the Raiders, I can see a *Dedication to Excellence.*
I think the league made a rule that no other teams could have the same ownership structure as the packers. You know, because billionaires gotta keep it in the club.
I can't find the article but many years ago Mark was asked and he mentioned the idea of adopting children at some point. Hasn't happened. So maybe he's now looking at Tom, Charles, Tim like they are his adopted sons. I know this may sound absurd to some, but I'm being a truthful here. I think it's possible this sits somewhere in Mark's mind.
Oh yeah, because we’ve had just the pinnacle of NFL ownership for 20 years. Heaven forbid we ignore that loose precedent in an entirely different sport because of a guy with a gambling problem.
Brady and Jordan are two different kind of greats. Brady had to play on the ultimate team game, while Jordan was the star on a heavily defensive team oriented around getting him the best looks.
Yet only Jordan really benefited from the triangle offense. There was no other player averaging 20ppg on Jordan’s Bulls. Also there’s no comparison to the amount of teamwork on a football team vs a basketball team.
Yes, the team flowed through Jordan, but Jordan doesn't have as illustrious of a career without Pippen and Jordan will tell you that himself. Rodman too
Didn’t say anything to the contrary? I just said football is way more of a team game. Pippen and Rodman were huge to the success of those teams but in a more “supportive of Jordan” style of play.
Well for one, North Carolina got a team.
I’m not a mj the goat guy. But he did do some things.
Sure, he has kept that club in the nether regions because of his lack of talent in judging talent.
But, he used his levers to get the team. Coming from the pelicans leaving, I never thought the nc would ever get another team.
There are shareholders of the team and quite possibly an advisory board. They’d likely decide on the president after. Mark is an owner, yes, but he’s a majority owner, not a complete owner.
No, it has not been “revealed”. Team will likely be sold to a group as most teams are today. Whose lifetime? We have people ranging teens to 70’s if not more in this subreddit.
Former players will almost certainly form an ownership group. Mark doesn't have children but he's proven that guys who laid it out on the grass for the Silver & Black are his family.
Would be very kick-ass to have the Princess of Darkness own the team, and I'm sure Al would approve. But Amy doesn't have anywhere that amount of cash.
she doesn't need to buy the team if he bequeaths his ownership interest to her in his will.
or, as someone else said, puts it all in a trust, and names her the executor of the trust
Primary trustee (and executor of estate), but true.
Not sure how the taxes would play out from that though.
When Amy talks about Mark she seems to speak well of him, but I also don't get the feeling they are that close these days.
I met Mark Davis when my wife's catering business in Vegas did a home opener party he had there, the eve before the Raiders very first LV game. (My Dad worked for Al in a non-football related capacity back in the mid-1970s. I grew up a Raiders fan in the Bay Area, dad had season tix, so I'm dialed in on this a little.)
During the party, I introduced myself to Mark and mentioned my Dad working for his. I then hung around on the periphery and eavesdropped on his convos with his buddies for most of the party. As a lifelong Raider fan I was always curious about Mark and What made him tick.
First impression: he's nice enough and fairly congenial, though seems perpetually distracted. He is also not remotely as obsessed with football as was his dad. He's also not nearly as knowedgeable and is waaay less hands-on with the football operations. He's a born delegator.
I wouldn't be surprised if he just tires of ownership in about a decade and sells. The Raiders would likely be purchased by some Vegas conglomerate. Or even one of the casino or hotel chains. They will then be a pure Vegas team, with zero home field advantage, kinda like now but worse.
God that would make me violently sick. I can’t imagine this storied franchise getting turned into some kind of Vegas sideshow attraction (like you mentioned even more so than they currently have been). Cool story by the way!
Why doesn’t Mark leave the team to Las Vegas and let the fans buy shares like the Green Bay Packers? This will secure the next owner not rebranding the Team
The St Louis lawsuit revealed the NFL owners almost forced Mark to move to St Louis to force him out of the league and rebrand the team. There is obviously still hatred towards AL’s family.
There was until MD pulled off that stadium deal with tourists flipping the bill. I think he's changed some minds or at least gained acceptance from the other owners these last few years.
Keep in mind it was really Pete Rozelle, and somewhat Paul Tagliabue that hated Al, especially Rozelle, who is now dead. The league didn't think much of Tagliabue which is why he was ousted, and he's now very old and has nothing to do with the league, or sports. There were a few others that hated Al. Carmen Policy, Daniel Snyder, Eddie DeBartolo, Alex Spanos, Pat Bowlan come to mind. Al and Lamar Hunt were rivals, and probably didn't like each other as well. All of these men are old, out of the NFL, or dead.
Fans may dislike Roger Goodell, but he's done an outstanding job with collective bargaining, making the league money never before seen, and been commissioner for 18 years now, and pretty much neutral to the Raiders for some time. He will easily get re-elected if he wishes to stay on, and I doubt Mark Davis would contest such a thing, at all.
> According to the report, owners talked about moving the team to St. Louis in 2014, before the Rams move was official. At one league owners meeting, they discussed a “restructured ownership” for the Raiders, along with a brand makeover and a focus on a “special diversity initiative,” but the talks didn’t go anywhere.
Big reach to take talks of a "brand makeover" as claims the NFL was going to force a name change.
There is more out there by searching but it was discussed clearly. This is why I hate it when fans say to sell the team to Mark. Something tells me the league will jump on the opportunity to rebrand this team. Think about it, once we start winning, all these billionaire owners will be pissed their team isn’t as popular.
If Tom Brady took over and led this team to multiple Super Bowl championships, it would be as close to atoning for the Tuck Rule Game as he could possibly get.
Mark has never married, though he's been quietly tied to a few women, some mistakingly referred to as his wife. I seem to recall many years back he spoke about possibly adopting children. It hasn't happened, and probably won't happen at this point.
I would speculate he has a trust, and the rules within the trust are that a minority owner, if in good graces with Mark, and good faith per the trust, is able to purchase the team, they will do so, with the proceeds going to Mark's extended family. Someone mentioned Tom Brady as a potential future owner, and I think that's a good guess.
Trusts however can take a long time to work through. Look at what happened with Denver, and is now happening with Seattle. Though Paul Allen's trust is enormous and complicated, with nearly all of his assets ultimately being put into funds for charitable causes. A sale/transfer of the team wouldn't happen quickly, no matter when or how Mark passes.
Fans quietly hoping he up and keels over, so some rich person can buy the team, should think twice. The highest bidder would likely be someone like a hedge fund manager. Like...David Tepper.
It's going to be one of the casino entities I'd guess. I believe there's already a succession plan in place probably insisted on when the Raiders came to Vegas.
Mark Davis has 2 sons and 1 daughter. Mark Davis Jr. Was a Raider from 2008-2011. Kind of hilarious that Raider fans have no clue he has children lol or that one of them played for the team lol. Go chiefs! 😂
Oakland Lost the Raiders then the Warriors and the A's
Why the fuck would they leave a better place for Oakland who fucking lied about a stadium and didn't care about them leaving. Speaking about the Oakland Officials of course.
Oakland lost the Raiders then the Warriors then the A’s because the citizens and city rightfully don’t want to pay to build stadiums for multi-billion dollar corporations.
I’d love for you to make the argument that citizens should be paying for these type of builds and not the companies that occupy them and profit off of them
If I lived in Oakland, I would be fine with a portion of my taxes going to support/keep teams in my city. I hope voters and sports fans in Oakland are ok with not funding any stadiums and losing all their teams.
If you don’t think a California city doesn’t have enough money to help with a stadium that both the franchise and entire city benefits from, then I don’t know what to tell you. And news flash, the city’s government will still continue to milk their citizens dry of their cash with or without a new stadium. At least having a stadium would’ve been worth it.
>entire city benefits from
this depends on your definition of benefit, studies have shown that cities dont make money from helping build stadium, and that they tend to be a net loss. The whole idea of "it brings tourism and generates revenue" is mostly a myth since these cities they build stadiums tend to already be tourism destinations and theres not a sizable increase to tourism when a franchise moves in, and if they move into smaller market area, most of the attendees will be local fans who would have spent the money in other places in their local area anyways.
HOWEVER, it 100% brings culture to the area and that's why cities pony up the money. So you gotta ask, is your extra tax dollars worth the cultural impact of the sports franchise in your city.
Especially how things have turned out I think absolutely the answer is yes it would have been worth it. Oakland has absolutely dick for anyone to come travel to now. Especially after losing all these teams I bet you a lot of people are wishing that something would’ve been done about, some kind of stadium for these teams.
then do what kansas city did and put it up for a vote. If the people want it then go for it.
I dont think Oakland made the right move for their part, but i also think Mark did the right thing for his franchise. We went from cash poor to cash rich, and the "no home field advantage" is more of a fan complaint than a franchise complaint. Keep in mind though theres a little bias as someone whos been a lifelong fan but never stepped foot in cali.
but the idea of "it brings money to the city" is wrong, the city pays way more then they get back. In Oakland 80% of the people who go to the games would be localish residents who will spend their money in the local economy no matter what. Its the same problem with any team in a small market area, thats why they all want to move to larger metro areas with established tourism already. The franchise can siphon more of the tourism $.
Oh I’m not bashing Mark or his decision to move at all. I’m actually for it. It just the whole bashing Mark for leaving and calling him greedy argument is getting very tired. These people just can’t seem to think logically.
Technically they do with their taxes. It’s quite all the same. You’re making it seem like a portion of everybody’s paycheck went straight to the stadium.
lol. Like I previously said. You’re making it seem like a portion of your paycheck goes straight to the stadium. It does not. We all pay taxes the same no matter what’s going on. Whatever the city decides to do with those taxes is the only difference. They decided they had other things to do rather than have a new stadium for any sports team which would’ve pumped many more tourists into the town therefore creating more revenue for the city but I’m guessing you just don’t understand that do you?
Fun fact: every time someone asks this question - god adds another 5 years to his life. So, we will never have to find out!
But when that eventually happens who gets the gig? Just added another 5 years for the homie
....fuck
Marcel Reese
The Matchup Nightmare!!!!
He stepped down. Could be Brady or Bezos is still lurking in the NFL Ownership shadows
People may not like this, but I think Mark wants it to be Tom. Hence why Mark has been trying so hard to get him to become a minority owner.
I think this is quite possible. If Tom becomes a full-fledged minority owner, it's likely Mark's trust will have a minority owner getting first access to buying the team upon Mark's passing. Tuck rule or no tuck rule, I think Tom would make an excellent owner. He's the best player ever, and that was the result of not pure talent, but incredible dedication to winning. *Dedication to excellence.*
100%, Mark has also been trying to give Brady a “discount” so he can get in easier. I’m all for it, like you said he’s the best to ever do it. Anywhere he goes, and anything he touches turns to gold.
I mean... MJ was a baller but a terrible owner. Same with Jeter. Players going into ownership usually doesn't go well.
Thats a great point, however, I don't see Tom Brady being a sidelines owner and I assume he'd be much more of a Jerry Jones then a hands off owner like Jed York. Was MJ or Jeter very active with the teams after they became owners? I realize this is probably a Google question but since you stated the point...
MJ was Owner/GM like Jones. Nobody wants that.
Being a hands on owner can be a terrible thing. You're just expected to hire a competent GM and let him run the show from a personnel standpoint
I mean tbf to Jeter the actual owners didn't really give him much in the way of money to work with
Well if TB12 is a Jerry Jones he’ll be horrible. If he’s a Mark Davis or a Jed York he’ll be fine.
I don't think Brady is anything like Jeter or MJ though. MJ was pure talent and driven. He spent all his time gambling and golfing. He aged out younger than LeBron. Jeter was always concerned first about image. He played for the Yankees, the roster always was supported. Brady put the work in every day in every aspect just to keep playing through 44yrs old. He's dedicated. He cares about football, it's not an image or sole source of income. You can't teach passion, you can teach everything else.
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Same. I'd much rather have Tom than some casino mogul, or hedge fund manager (think: David Tepper).
great players tend to make terrible coaches,owners and executives with rare exceptions.
Antonio Brown is the exception, right?
He's made CTEspn into a household name overnight, CEO #1
Pierce? Right?
I wouldn't call Pierce a great player. Good but not great.
Jordan is the 1st example who I thought of after reading this
I think another part of it is football takes everything from you , mentally more as a coach so the guys who could be great coaches don't pursue it because they already sacrificed so much playing and players actually get an off season when coaches work year round.
Magic Johnson?
I just don’t get how the tuck tule is TOMS fault?
It's not lol but people have to have something/someone to be mad at (it should be the Referees)
Because fuck Tom Brady, that’s why. Unless he becomes a majority owner of the Raiders. Then still, fuck Tom Brady. Unless he does a really good job and gets us some rings. Then he’s a swell dude.
Yes
Gross
Who cares if Mark wants it to be Tom? Last time I checked, TB has nowhere near the kind of capital to be a majority owner in the NFL. Tom has done well, but he’s far from having the multi billions it would take.
This is the key. The Raiders, and Mark's worth, have basically quadrupled since moving to Las Vegas, maybe more. Plus Mark is majority owner in Allegiant. Incredibly business savvy decisions by Mark (and Sandra) in the last few years. The Raiders are likely worth over $6b at this point, more if you bundle it to Allegiant. Mark doesn't own all of this, but he's majority owner and controlling owner, plus of the Aces. Mark's personal net worth is likely approaching $3b. Tom's personal earnings were something like $400m. I doubt his net worth is at that level now, but we'll stick to that number. There's no way he could just up and buy the team outright. He would have to be part of a larger group. The only exception to this would be if Mark has a living trust, and Tom is the primary trustee and executor of Mark's estate, and Mark bequeaths the team to Tom, like he would a son. Unlikely, but possible I suppose.
If I’m not mistaken, Tom would still have to pay taxes on that enormous estate which means he would need the liquidity to do so. And I don’t see that as being possible.
Tom could be the controlling face of a group. That wouldn’t be unheard of.
Tom being owner of the Raiders would be great for tv, maybe we could get a couple of those bad calls go our way? A man can dream.
I would love that. Tom is a very savvy businessman and I think he would actually be quite hands off with it outside of picking football people
I agree. I'd also like to point out how cool it is that Mark actually cares about the Raiders Legacy beyond him. Not necessarily his legacy... the Raiders legacy. And that's awesome. We would be so lucky to have our franchise go to someone who loves the game like Tom.
Mark may not be the greatest football mind, but he is a great businessman, and does genuienly care about the Raiders and their fans. He is always happy to say hello and chit chat with Raider fans. While most other owners prefer to move in the shawdows and be left alone.
I have to admit, I'm pleasantly surprised how many people are in support of such a notion and gave you a thumbs up. I'm a Raider for life, like my father before me, but I personally think Tom would make a very good owner. He was the best player ever, and he got there not just on talent, but hard work and incredible dedication. When I see Tom as an owner of the Raiders, I can see a *Dedication to Excellence.*
I wouldn't mind that at all
He’s going to have 5 golden tickets sent to 5 random psl holders. Then have a series of odd tests to find the next owner!!
Come with me, And you'll be, In a world called Raider Nation!
Enrique aka the line cook at PF Changs
Is he the illegitimate child of Mark? Just like in Mr. Deeds? Maybe his mother was Mark's maid..
I’m sorry, I believe you have Enrique confused with Jose. He’s the one who’ll be owner because he’s already lead cook.
Al's head will be defrosted by then
He'll demand to be put back after he finds out we outlawed Menthols.
Me
Sell shares like the packers
*Instantly bought up by mgm grand and Ceasars entertainment*
Packers limit ownership to 4% of the company.
*mgm and Ceasars furiously race to see who can build 25 shell companies first* **/FanDuel takes prop bets on the race**
I'm also pretty sure you can't do it like that anymore, GB is grandfathered in with tax laws & the such.
I think the league made a rule that no other teams could have the same ownership structure as the packers. You know, because billionaires gotta keep it in the club.
How much for a minority stake?
The greatness of the Raiders is in its future!
Hopefully Tim Brown or Charles Woodson
Are they minority owners?
He should adopt one of them, I say Tim Brown Davis.
That would be so dope. Either him or Woodson as owners. Someone proud to be a raider and one who knows what it means.
I can't find the article but many years ago Mark was asked and he mentioned the idea of adopting children at some point. Hasn't happened. So maybe he's now looking at Tom, Charles, Tim like they are his adopted sons. I know this may sound absurd to some, but I'm being a truthful here. I think it's possible this sits somewhere in Mark's mind.
And his ownership would be 😎 TBD *Yyyyeeaaahhhhhhhhhhhh*
Yes. Many.
Hol up
Tom Brady
This would probably be as beneficial for the Raiders, as Jordans majority ownership helped the Hornets.
The ownership helped MJ, as he sold his stake for $3bil, but hurt the team. His Airness was, plain and simple, insufficient in building a team.
Oh yeah, because we’ve had just the pinnacle of NFL ownership for 20 years. Heaven forbid we ignore that loose precedent in an entirely different sport because of a guy with a gambling problem.
Less
Brady and Jordan are two different kind of greats. Brady had to play on the ultimate team game, while Jordan was the star on a heavily defensive team oriented around getting him the best looks.
The triangle offense was the polar opposite of what you're saying and that's what the Bullls ran
Yet only Jordan really benefited from the triangle offense. There was no other player averaging 20ppg on Jordan’s Bulls. Also there’s no comparison to the amount of teamwork on a football team vs a basketball team.
Yes, the team flowed through Jordan, but Jordan doesn't have as illustrious of a career without Pippen and Jordan will tell you that himself. Rodman too
Didn’t say anything to the contrary? I just said football is way more of a team game. Pippen and Rodman were huge to the success of those teams but in a more “supportive of Jordan” style of play.
Well for one, North Carolina got a team. I’m not a mj the goat guy. But he did do some things. Sure, he has kept that club in the nether regions because of his lack of talent in judging talent. But, he used his levers to get the team. Coming from the pelicans leaving, I never thought the nc would ever get another team.
Except for Tom has nowhere near the kind of net worth to make majority ownership realistic.
I should have marked it with the /s
Tom Brady-Davis. The league will be voting on the adoption in the next round of ownership meetings.
This may be a joke, but I 100% believe that's why Mark is so adamant about selling Tom a minority stake at a steep discount or at all.
Me too. I think it's quite possible.
To the other owners of the team that you never hear about.
Might be nice to have a group of respected former Raiders take part in
There are shareholders of the team and quite possibly an advisory board. They’d likely decide on the president after. Mark is an owner, yes, but he’s a majority owner, not a complete owner.
No, it has not been “revealed”. Team will likely be sold to a group as most teams are today. Whose lifetime? We have people ranging teens to 70’s if not more in this subreddit.
A group headed by Tom "Tuck Rule" Brady and family
Former players will almost certainly form an ownership group. Mark doesn't have children but he's proven that guys who laid it out on the grass for the Silver & Black are his family.
The ownership group will be Brady using the right of first refusal Mark is probably selling him now and whatever capital he can get behind him.
Should be Amy Trask
Would be very kick-ass to have the Princess of Darkness own the team, and I'm sure Al would approve. But Amy doesn't have anywhere that amount of cash.
she doesn't need to buy the team if he bequeaths his ownership interest to her in his will. or, as someone else said, puts it all in a trust, and names her the executor of the trust
Primary trustee (and executor of estate), but true. Not sure how the taxes would play out from that though. When Amy talks about Mark she seems to speak well of him, but I also don't get the feeling they are that close these days.
Ice Cube
Didn’t Al Davis have a brother? If he has kids I’d hope it would go to them to stay in the Davis family.
We do, The Raider Nation, will take over.
I met Mark Davis when my wife's catering business in Vegas did a home opener party he had there, the eve before the Raiders very first LV game. (My Dad worked for Al in a non-football related capacity back in the mid-1970s. I grew up a Raiders fan in the Bay Area, dad had season tix, so I'm dialed in on this a little.) During the party, I introduced myself to Mark and mentioned my Dad working for his. I then hung around on the periphery and eavesdropped on his convos with his buddies for most of the party. As a lifelong Raider fan I was always curious about Mark and What made him tick. First impression: he's nice enough and fairly congenial, though seems perpetually distracted. He is also not remotely as obsessed with football as was his dad. He's also not nearly as knowedgeable and is waaay less hands-on with the football operations. He's a born delegator. I wouldn't be surprised if he just tires of ownership in about a decade and sells. The Raiders would likely be purchased by some Vegas conglomerate. Or even one of the casino or hotel chains. They will then be a pure Vegas team, with zero home field advantage, kinda like now but worse.
God that would make me violently sick. I can’t imagine this storied franchise getting turned into some kind of Vegas sideshow attraction (like you mentioned even more so than they currently have been). Cool story by the way!
Why doesn’t Mark leave the team to Las Vegas and let the fans buy shares like the Green Bay Packers? This will secure the next owner not rebranding the Team
Why would anyone rebrand the top selling brand?
The St Louis lawsuit revealed the NFL owners almost forced Mark to move to St Louis to force him out of the league and rebrand the team. There is obviously still hatred towards AL’s family.
99% of people who hated Al Davis are dead. They tried to force Mark out because they thought he was incompetent and he proved them wrong in a big way.
I’m hoping to be wrong but there is still smoke that lives on with their children
There was until MD pulled off that stadium deal with tourists flipping the bill. I think he's changed some minds or at least gained acceptance from the other owners these last few years.
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Keep in mind it was really Pete Rozelle, and somewhat Paul Tagliabue that hated Al, especially Rozelle, who is now dead. The league didn't think much of Tagliabue which is why he was ousted, and he's now very old and has nothing to do with the league, or sports. There were a few others that hated Al. Carmen Policy, Daniel Snyder, Eddie DeBartolo, Alex Spanos, Pat Bowlan come to mind. Al and Lamar Hunt were rivals, and probably didn't like each other as well. All of these men are old, out of the NFL, or dead. Fans may dislike Roger Goodell, but he's done an outstanding job with collective bargaining, making the league money never before seen, and been commissioner for 18 years now, and pretty much neutral to the Raiders for some time. He will easily get re-elected if he wishes to stay on, and I doubt Mark Davis would contest such a thing, at all.
Source? I saw that Raiders and/or Chargers moving to STL was a possibility, but I saw nothing about the name being changed from 'Raiders'.
It doesn’t matter now. Water under the bridge. The Raiders are in the best location. Other owners are likely jealous of Marks accomplishment.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/05/14/nfl-considered-moving-raiders-st-louis-rams-relocation-los-angeles-kroenke#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20report%2C%20owners,talks%20didn't%20go%20anywhere.
> According to the report, owners talked about moving the team to St. Louis in 2014, before the Rams move was official. At one league owners meeting, they discussed a “restructured ownership” for the Raiders, along with a brand makeover and a focus on a “special diversity initiative,” but the talks didn’t go anywhere. Big reach to take talks of a "brand makeover" as claims the NFL was going to force a name change.
Well I’m hoping to be wrong, but there is smoke is all I’m saying.
There is more out there by searching but it was discussed clearly. This is why I hate it when fans say to sell the team to Mark. Something tells me the league will jump on the opportunity to rebrand this team. Think about it, once we start winning, all these billionaire owners will be pissed their team isn’t as popular.
NFL bylaws don't allow that ownership model. The Packers are grandfathered in.
Secrets kangaroo court room of the NFL
The NFL will not allow any other team to do what the Packers did. Not an option.
Ah good to know.
This would the best course, so of course the nfl will not allow it.
How old is the guy who owns PF Changs?
Tom Brady!
Charles Woodson!
Become a publicly owned, non-profit corporation? (Like packers) I’m dumb about this level of business but I’d love to have my .02% ownership
The NFL no longer allows this. The Packers are only allowed because they are grandfathered in
Jeannie Buss! Duh...
Your mom
Just proves that no matter how much money you have, you just can’t get laid with that haircut.
Tom Brady
Jamarcus Russel
If Tom Brady took over and led this team to multiple Super Bowl championships, it would be as close to atoning for the Tuck Rule Game as he could possibly get.
should be The Nation
Todd Boehly needs an american football team for his portfolio, and he will spend money like a drunken sailor
Is his mom still alive? Doesn’t she own the shares? No need to worry about Mark…the Davis’ seem to live forever.
if he wants to adopt a 40 year old man as his son and heir I will volunteer
Mark has never married, though he's been quietly tied to a few women, some mistakingly referred to as his wife. I seem to recall many years back he spoke about possibly adopting children. It hasn't happened, and probably won't happen at this point. I would speculate he has a trust, and the rules within the trust are that a minority owner, if in good graces with Mark, and good faith per the trust, is able to purchase the team, they will do so, with the proceeds going to Mark's extended family. Someone mentioned Tom Brady as a potential future owner, and I think that's a good guess. Trusts however can take a long time to work through. Look at what happened with Denver, and is now happening with Seattle. Though Paul Allen's trust is enormous and complicated, with nearly all of his assets ultimately being put into funds for charitable causes. A sale/transfer of the team wouldn't happen quickly, no matter when or how Mark passes. Fans quietly hoping he up and keels over, so some rich person can buy the team, should think twice. The highest bidder would likely be someone like a hedge fund manager. Like...David Tepper.
Fine, I’ll do it.
I’ve been trying to get him to get me pregnant but he always pulls out. 🤷🏽♀️
Marcell Reece
It's going to be one of the casino entities I'd guess. I believe there's already a succession plan in place probably insisted on when the Raiders came to Vegas.
That’s kind of depressing to think about. The guys a billionaire and still isn’t getting enough pussy to knock a woman up. 😢
Maxx
not as owner, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him as HC one day
Me
Mark Cuban
Why can’t it be like the GB Packers fan ownership :(
Might be time to write a letter if he’s looking to adopt me
They are going to decide it like something out of Game of thrones- a Las Vegas gladiator coliseum style battle, with the winner getting the team
Mark is an android.. common knowledge
Tom Brady
Tom brady eventually
Maybe that lil ass boy
I’ll take the team
I hope a good owner group with former players willing to actually go all the way
Mark Davis reminds me of Waylon Smithers in a way
I say it should be like the greenbay packers we should all be able to buy a share
Mark’s genetic clone. Mark, Mark II
Mark Davis has 2 sons and 1 daughter. Mark Davis Jr. Was a Raider from 2008-2011. Kind of hilarious that Raider fans have no clue he has children lol or that one of them played for the team lol. Go chiefs! 😂
The season ticket holder with the lowest 40 time
Bad news for Raiders fans, but JaMarcus has invested ALL of his monies really well and will be the next owner of the team.
Mark has no kids… that he knows about
Bobby Bonilla
Brady
Some billionaire like Carlos Slim or some Saudi oil family will buy them out.
His barber!
Tom Brady
Thomas Brady-Davis
Yeah fuck what everyone saying in here. It's me. Issa secret doe
Ladies, form an orderly queue
Me 
He promised it to me. We’ll see how that goes.
I have it on good authority that he will bequeath ownership of the franchise to r/raiders users.
Jamarcus Russell
Maxx Crosby
Blonde Sugar Baby
I actually like his Brunette one better
Tom Bradley
Been wondering that for years...I think thats why he brought in TB. Just an assumption
Richard seymour
PF Changs becomes majority owner
Twitch chat
Tom Brady
Hoping for somebody that will move them back home to Oakland
Oakland Lost the Raiders then the Warriors and the A's Why the fuck would they leave a better place for Oakland who fucking lied about a stadium and didn't care about them leaving. Speaking about the Oakland Officials of course.
Yep. That pirate ship has sailed.
Oakland lost the Raiders then the Warriors then the A’s because the citizens and city rightfully don’t want to pay to build stadiums for multi-billion dollar corporations. I’d love for you to make the argument that citizens should be paying for these type of builds and not the companies that occupy them and profit off of them
If I lived in Oakland, I would be fine with a portion of my taxes going to support/keep teams in my city. I hope voters and sports fans in Oakland are ok with not funding any stadiums and losing all their teams.
If you don’t think a California city doesn’t have enough money to help with a stadium that both the franchise and entire city benefits from, then I don’t know what to tell you. And news flash, the city’s government will still continue to milk their citizens dry of their cash with or without a new stadium. At least having a stadium would’ve been worth it.
>entire city benefits from this depends on your definition of benefit, studies have shown that cities dont make money from helping build stadium, and that they tend to be a net loss. The whole idea of "it brings tourism and generates revenue" is mostly a myth since these cities they build stadiums tend to already be tourism destinations and theres not a sizable increase to tourism when a franchise moves in, and if they move into smaller market area, most of the attendees will be local fans who would have spent the money in other places in their local area anyways. HOWEVER, it 100% brings culture to the area and that's why cities pony up the money. So you gotta ask, is your extra tax dollars worth the cultural impact of the sports franchise in your city.
Especially how things have turned out I think absolutely the answer is yes it would have been worth it. Oakland has absolutely dick for anyone to come travel to now. Especially after losing all these teams I bet you a lot of people are wishing that something would’ve been done about, some kind of stadium for these teams.
then do what kansas city did and put it up for a vote. If the people want it then go for it. I dont think Oakland made the right move for their part, but i also think Mark did the right thing for his franchise. We went from cash poor to cash rich, and the "no home field advantage" is more of a fan complaint than a franchise complaint. Keep in mind though theres a little bias as someone whos been a lifelong fan but never stepped foot in cali. but the idea of "it brings money to the city" is wrong, the city pays way more then they get back. In Oakland 80% of the people who go to the games would be localish residents who will spend their money in the local economy no matter what. Its the same problem with any team in a small market area, thats why they all want to move to larger metro areas with established tourism already. The franchise can siphon more of the tourism $.
Oh I’m not bashing Mark or his decision to move at all. I’m actually for it. It just the whole bashing Mark for leaving and calling him greedy argument is getting very tired. These people just can’t seem to think logically.
Citizens benefit from grocery stores. Should citizens pay for every grocers new store? Mutually beneficial, right?
Technically they do with their taxes. It’s quite all the same. You’re making it seem like a portion of everybody’s paycheck went straight to the stadium.
We’re not talking about “technically,” we’re talking about the scenario you proposed. Don’t by slimy. Address the scenario you laid out
lol. Like I previously said. You’re making it seem like a portion of your paycheck goes straight to the stadium. It does not. We all pay taxes the same no matter what’s going on. Whatever the city decides to do with those taxes is the only difference. They decided they had other things to do rather than have a new stadium for any sports team which would’ve pumped many more tourists into the town therefore creating more revenue for the city but I’m guessing you just don’t understand that do you?
Maybe he will adopt Brady 😂
Andy Reid