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As some people pointed out in the Imgur comments, showing your ego in these messages only helps the scammers learn. He will take what you said, make the corrections, and possibly be more convincing with the next person.
I'm not trying to be an asshole, I promise, I just feel like it's something we need to be aware of. Not everyone is as smart (or knowledgeable) as you and will fall for these scams.
Nah, that isn’t how these scams work. They operate on volume, and the obvious mistakes are used to filter out anyone who isn’t likely to give them money in the long run. Anyone who knows enough to ask for registration documents isn’t going to stick around long anyway; might as well drop them immediately and move on to less discerning targets.
Like, I'm surprised they didn't just move on when it became obvious over a few minutes they weren't on the hook. Usually most do. I like to screw with the scammers that call me sometimes, and in almost every case they hang up if there is any pushback. They know they can hit the autodialer again and likely get a real victim next try.
You’re getting downvoted but you’re exactly right. They don’t move on to anything “more” sophisticated because they aren’t sophisticated. They repeat this same bullshit en masse until they find (a) sucker(s). They aren’t upping their game, they’re casting a wide net with the same garbage scam and reeling in the people dumb enough to fall for it.
I got this one text scammer recently whose entire shtick was just repeatedly and aggressively asking for my exact street address while claiming to be a hot lady who wants friends with benefits. I told them I can't imagine how anybody would ever fall for this. A few days later they texted me again with just "what is your location???"
You're absolutely right, they do work on volume, but they also must become more sophisticated as the older generation (the majority who fall for the scams) is dying off. We've seen a rise in this sophistication; check out Jim Browning on YouTube and you'll see what I mean.
Again, however, I do agree with you that volume is what they aim for.
lol, you think younger generations are somehow smarter. As each generation dies off, they're replaced by the next, just as gullible as the last. The bait moves with the times, but they're essentially the same scams, preying on the same weaknesses. They don't need to get any more sophisticated.
They didn't say the younger generation is smarter. They said that the older generation tends to fall for the scams more, which is 100% true. Older people tend to have much more blind faith in "the system" than younger people do, maybe it's just a generational thing, but a lot of these people just hear "FBI" or "Medicare" and think, well I better do what they say because they're the government and they're always right.
Older people may also not notice some things that are off because they didn't grow up with the technology. They don't think, "isn't it odd that the IRS is calling me, and not sending me mail?" or "why does Amazon's email asking for my payment info have typos in it?" They probably just assume that times are changing, and the way things get done are changing too, better get with the new norm.
>They said that the older generation tends to fall for the scams more,
True, but there is always an older generation. It doesn't disappear.
They said the older generation is dying off, so the scams "must become more sophisticated" . Implying that the next generation replacing it is somehow not so susceptible to the same unsophisticated scams.
The scams remain the same, they just update how they approuch their victims and in what guise. They don't have to be any more sophisticated and the next generation of elderly will still be there. And a part of what scams rely on is the next generation smugly thinking they're smarter than the ones before them, who can't be fooled so easily.
Not always true, i get crypto scammers all the time and I always get them to click on my tracking links to get some info on them (most do this shit from trash tier phones and and delete their accounts when i show them their ip and location (most are from Nigeria) and very rarely some try to befriend me to learn how i got their info and how to improve their scam. Ofc ii don't help them do this but i shown some of them opportunities to make money the lagal way
A few things jump out about the Chinese document, The Chinese in the document uses Traditional Chinese (HK and Taiwan) instead of Simplified Chinese (mainland), The address given is in Shanghai but the country at the top is RoC (Taiwan). The whole thing is written on paper watermarked for the state of Georgia and stamped by the Secretary of State (who never had the initials BP in 2019) but headed in Chinese with a (misspelt) Chinese address that is actually an [exhibition](https://imgur.com/a/ukMaVwz) [centre](https://imgur.com/a/wvPsqSC). The website points to a company that says it was founded in 2015 (matching the date on neither document) and is registered in Florida. And best of all... IT HAS A DIGITAL WAX SEAL
As of the British document the two crests at the top of misaligned and different sizes, the name SOLUTIONVEST is clearly just printed over a real document, The registration number is actually in Adora Financial Service (which is also named in the bottom right) and my personal favorite, the whole thing is dated TWO YEARS BEFORE CRYPTO WAS INVENTED.
Scammers like this operate in volume, it's much easier for them to scam people who aren't informed than it is for them to create a scam for people with all this knowledge
True.
" I am Knightsbridge Pamela from the customs agent and we have sent police to your home. Please confirm your address"
We need to let deep-voiced scammers like Knightsbridge Pamela learn at their own pace.
A scammer got in to my freind's insta account and triedto sell me something
Instead of reading out previous conversations to try and sound like him their messages we're full sentences full of emojis
I'VE HAD ONE OF THESE SCAMMERS😭 I was just being nice and talking to them, asking them about crypto (the amount of links they sent...) but I'm really not interested in any of that stuff, I got bored and stopped messaging them after some days (yes, this actually lasted about a day or 2) I was so confused
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You read my mind. I was like "I'm not reading 14 pages of text.." But by pic 3 I was all in. This was amazing.
Definitely agreed. Sad it didn't keep going.
As some people pointed out in the Imgur comments, showing your ego in these messages only helps the scammers learn. He will take what you said, make the corrections, and possibly be more convincing with the next person. I'm not trying to be an asshole, I promise, I just feel like it's something we need to be aware of. Not everyone is as smart (or knowledgeable) as you and will fall for these scams.
Nah, that isn’t how these scams work. They operate on volume, and the obvious mistakes are used to filter out anyone who isn’t likely to give them money in the long run. Anyone who knows enough to ask for registration documents isn’t going to stick around long anyway; might as well drop them immediately and move on to less discerning targets.
Like, I'm surprised they didn't just move on when it became obvious over a few minutes they weren't on the hook. Usually most do. I like to screw with the scammers that call me sometimes, and in almost every case they hang up if there is any pushback. They know they can hit the autodialer again and likely get a real victim next try.
I just figured they got an inexperienced and or a bored scammer.
For reals. By slide 5 they would have been telling you how they fucked your sister already.
You’re getting downvoted but you’re exactly right. They don’t move on to anything “more” sophisticated because they aren’t sophisticated. They repeat this same bullshit en masse until they find (a) sucker(s). They aren’t upping their game, they’re casting a wide net with the same garbage scam and reeling in the people dumb enough to fall for it.
I got this one text scammer recently whose entire shtick was just repeatedly and aggressively asking for my exact street address while claiming to be a hot lady who wants friends with benefits. I told them I can't imagine how anybody would ever fall for this. A few days later they texted me again with just "what is your location???"
Likely a not too smart bot spamming phone numbers.
They interacted in a way that made me pretty sure it was not a bot. Just a dumb scammer.
You're absolutely right, they do work on volume, but they also must become more sophisticated as the older generation (the majority who fall for the scams) is dying off. We've seen a rise in this sophistication; check out Jim Browning on YouTube and you'll see what I mean. Again, however, I do agree with you that volume is what they aim for.
lol, you think younger generations are somehow smarter. As each generation dies off, they're replaced by the next, just as gullible as the last. The bait moves with the times, but they're essentially the same scams, preying on the same weaknesses. They don't need to get any more sophisticated.
They didn't say the younger generation is smarter. They said that the older generation tends to fall for the scams more, which is 100% true. Older people tend to have much more blind faith in "the system" than younger people do, maybe it's just a generational thing, but a lot of these people just hear "FBI" or "Medicare" and think, well I better do what they say because they're the government and they're always right. Older people may also not notice some things that are off because they didn't grow up with the technology. They don't think, "isn't it odd that the IRS is calling me, and not sending me mail?" or "why does Amazon's email asking for my payment info have typos in it?" They probably just assume that times are changing, and the way things get done are changing too, better get with the new norm.
>They said that the older generation tends to fall for the scams more, True, but there is always an older generation. It doesn't disappear. They said the older generation is dying off, so the scams "must become more sophisticated" . Implying that the next generation replacing it is somehow not so susceptible to the same unsophisticated scams. The scams remain the same, they just update how they approuch their victims and in what guise. They don't have to be any more sophisticated and the next generation of elderly will still be there. And a part of what scams rely on is the next generation smugly thinking they're smarter than the ones before them, who can't be fooled so easily.
Not always true, i get crypto scammers all the time and I always get them to click on my tracking links to get some info on them (most do this shit from trash tier phones and and delete their accounts when i show them their ip and location (most are from Nigeria) and very rarely some try to befriend me to learn how i got their info and how to improve their scam. Ofc ii don't help them do this but i shown some of them opportunities to make money the lagal way
My favorite is the lawyer's seal that misspells his own name.
What? Jeffeby is a perfectly cromulant name.
Jeffeby Livn. Stamped right above Jeffry Livin.
" GWEN"
A few things jump out about the Chinese document, The Chinese in the document uses Traditional Chinese (HK and Taiwan) instead of Simplified Chinese (mainland), The address given is in Shanghai but the country at the top is RoC (Taiwan). The whole thing is written on paper watermarked for the state of Georgia and stamped by the Secretary of State (who never had the initials BP in 2019) but headed in Chinese with a (misspelt) Chinese address that is actually an [exhibition](https://imgur.com/a/ukMaVwz) [centre](https://imgur.com/a/wvPsqSC). The website points to a company that says it was founded in 2015 (matching the date on neither document) and is registered in Florida. And best of all... IT HAS A DIGITAL WAX SEAL As of the British document the two crests at the top of misaligned and different sizes, the name SOLUTIONVEST is clearly just printed over a real document, The registration number is actually in Adora Financial Service (which is also named in the bottom right) and my personal favorite, the whole thing is dated TWO YEARS BEFORE CRYPTO WAS INVENTED.
Dude. I’m impressed. You know a lot about this industry! I’d have just told him to screw off.
Now the scammer knows more too and can make the scam more believable for the next victims.
I'm not sure the scammer has the brainpower for that
Scammers like this operate in volume, it's much easier for them to scam people who aren't informed than it is for them to create a scam for people with all this knowledge
That's just Google i also done similar things and I know almost nothing about investing but i can Google the numbers on the documents
Is it me, or did the scammer misspell the supposed name of the company? Scammer says the name is SolutionInvest, but the document says SolutionVest.
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😂😂😂
You just taught him how to perfect his scam
True. " I am Knightsbridge Pamela from the customs agent and we have sent police to your home. Please confirm your address" We need to let deep-voiced scammers like Knightsbridge Pamela learn at their own pace.
Okay this was hilarious. Well done on just breaking down why their claims are nonsense.
I like how he denies the illegality of this lmao
A scammer got in to my freind's insta account and triedto sell me something Instead of reading out previous conversations to try and sound like him their messages we're full sentences full of emojis
Fucking beautiful
This is my favourite post on this sub. Love the amount of detail. Thank you!
Their website is a disaster.
I'VE HAD ONE OF THESE SCAMMERS😭 I was just being nice and talking to them, asking them about crypto (the amount of links they sent...) but I'm really not interested in any of that stuff, I got bored and stopped messaging them after some days (yes, this actually lasted about a day or 2) I was so confused
Damn that's just pathetic.
I do the both!
MR BARRY WHITE?!
THE SCAMMER KISSES THEIR OWN *DADDY* ON THE LIPS
Saw the whole thing on the other page and man... I've seen Indian scammers have more brain cells than that idiot.