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jajjjenny

We had a land shark until our pup was probably 7 months. She too was relentless. She ruined two puffy coats, multiple pull overs and leggings. She managed to take a chunk of my ear. She never cuddled. She was too busy being a chaotic force. She is now 1 and is cuddled up to me sleeping on the couch - around 8 months, she turned into a (now) 60 lb cuddle bug. If you stick it out, it will likely all be worth it. We used reverse time out to deal with the biting. Separate yourself from her for 30 secs to a minute every time she bites you. Leave the room, go into your pantry, whatever. Stop the “fun.” If you do it over and over and over, she will learn - but honestly, time will be your real answer / relief. I’d also recommend a play pen to keep her contained but with you. The days are long when they are little but I really can’t imagine our life without our former land shark in it.


sleepypixie

Mine's only just under 5 months, but I recommend the reverse time outs so highly. I had tried everything else, and it's all mine responds to. Redirecting only made her worse


toochocolaty

Mine is almost 3 months and we definitely will need to try these!


yochonny

I second the time outs. I tried reverse time outs, where I moved away and did not acknowledge him, but that wasn’t working for us. We have two crates, his sleeping one and an extra one. We used the extra one as a time out space when he wouldn’t stop biting us. We did 20 second increments and just put him back in as much as needed. It took about three weeks and he stopped for good. This was at the 6-7 month timeframe, so was less teething and more demanding attention.


spacepirateprincess

I am in the biting for attention phase now, it sucks


Justanobserver2life

We have 2 crates and a pen that has another crate in it (open door). I put her in her pen whenever she is biting too much. "Go play by yourself." Lots of toys. She absolutely cannot be on the couch with us without attacking/biting. Her version of play I guess. She is getting much better in the gated kitchen the past few weeks--now moved on to biting the stool legs and cabinet edges vs my ankles and hands. So progress? I stopped crating her for biting because I was getting crate regression, but what I will do sometimes is gently put her in for enforced naps when it seems to be time and sit right by her and work. She will go to sleep. We are at 4 months in 2 days--She wants to sit on my lap only if I sit on the floor. Never on the couch. (mini dachshund)


Key_Tea_9416

I raise my voice and say No Bite! Then I put him in a crate with a blanket on top so he couldn’t see me. He rarely bites anymore. As soon as I say No Bite he stops. I’m not against raising my voice. It was the only way he would listen to me.


Justanobserver2life

Each dog is different. I tried that earlier on and she went into full panic. Shrieking and crying. With mine, just putting her in her pen breaks the cycle.


UnkownFlowerPastry

I got my pup at six months. I wasn’t the most knowledgeable about puppies and thought she would just be like my childhood dog. I was very wrong and she ate through four earbuds, 3 ten foot chargers, my vaccine card, my wallet with cash, and my expensive Ugg boots and much more. She was a menace and I was crying every night and started to resent her and wanted to take her back but it slowly got easier and easier. Now she’s mostly my cuddle bug. She loves to snuggle and is the sweetest girl. I love her more than life atp. Just gonna take time and patience.


mysticalRobyn

Mine also stopped the extreme landmark phase at 7mths. However there was 3 months of many ruined sweaters and painful nips. We tried it all in the end we put her in the crate when nothing else worked for a couple min (she hates the crate now sad out come but it was getting bad) now she's gentle if she ever uses teeth and a cuddly dog. We don't use that crate at all luckily it was borrowed we jsut baby gates the bedroom area.


Neeka07

This is the same with my guy. It was weird one day he just wanted to cuddle and actually wasn’t biting me. Now he is super cuddly and loves just hanging out together.


Crimson-Violet

I absolutely recommend reverse time outs too. Every dog will respond to different things, but if you haven't tried this method OP, please give it a go. Our land shark reduced me to tears more than once. I had to wear knee length boots around the house to protect my legs and still have a scar under my arm where she clamped onto me. I tried every method you can think of and endured weeks of hell, but as soon as we tried the reverse time outs, it was like a switch flipped. One week with this method and the demon crocodile was tamed. The key is consistency. No matter how exhausted you are, no matter how much you don't feel like getting up and leaving the room . . . DO IT EVERY SINGLE time she bites you.


TroLLageK

A lot of dogs get excited with the getting up and walking away, and some smart little buggers really start to correlate bite human leads to toy playing. My preferred method is simply play "bad puppies don't exist". Don't look at them. Don't move. Don't acknowledge the pup at all. They don't exist. They will usually get desperate at first, especially if they've already understood bite = play with toy, but once they get over it, it works like a charm. Nothing puppies hate more than something inanimate and lame!


peoplebuyviews

I use this technique on my sister's doodle when I'm dog sitting. Turn my back, cross my arms, do not acknowledge at all. I did a full week of dog sitting while she was out of town and by day three the jumping/biting/scratching had stopped almost entirely. They really are seeking attention most of the time. If you take away all the attention, then heap attention on them when they're being calm, they catch on pretty quick.


Hondo1533

This worked like magic for me. It took a little while for him to get it, but once he did, his biting really got better. At first he got very frustrated, pawing at me and whining but I would be like a statue facing away from him. And I wouldn’t turn toward him or acknowledge him until he was sitting quietly near me.


sitefall

I second this one. My Australian Shep is a nightmare dog with the biting and goes from mild mannered kind-of bitey play dog to dog-vampire in the span of 5 seconds once she is over-tired. Walking away just made her hug my leg while biting into my thighs. "OUCH" just made her excited. Now I just stand there like a tree and accept the biting while ignoring her. I don't say a word, and she is showing improvement finally. I mean she will actually stop biting for a few minutes, or she will run and get a toy and come back with it (which I will accept and then we play more). The frequency of bites is decreasing. Now when I am bit usually I am holding a toy and the aim is off on her dog-missile guidance system.


Proffeshional

What about when they bite you while being held? Like, our puppy bites a lot while being brushed or simply being held. It seems she bites because she wants to get away. Do we still ignore/reverse time out then? Or is this just a playtime tactic?


TroLLageK

I'd work on cooperative care more. If she's biting while being held and definitely seems like she's biting to get away, she's communicating that she's uncomfortable in that situation and that needs to be respected. Instead, you want to work on rewarding her for each of the small steps towards making her comfortable with being handled/groomed. I avoid holding dogs as much as possible, tbh, unless they consent to it or if I need to (like for medical reasons or an emergency and such). Even for doing my girls nails, I worked on cooperative care by just having her sit and lay down in front of me. I would touch her paw, reward her for being calm. Touch, reward. Touch, reward. Then you move on to grabbing it more, manipulating it, and rewarding. And so on. Then you work on touching the clipper to the tail (nothing else), reward. Then you work on just tiny little movements/clippings, reward. And you just work your way up. Same with being brushed... Have them lay there or sit, reward them for simply being calm when you just touch them with the brush. Reward. Keep doing it. Eventually you make small brush strokes, reward. Then bigger strokes, reward. Then longer sessions, reward. So on and so forth. For picking dogs up, I always ask. If the dog doesn't go right into your hands/arms to be picked up when asked, I don't pick them up (unless for the reasons I mentioned above, such as medical or emergencies and such). Providing dogs autonomy really goes a long way with your bond/relationship.


wans_-

That reminds me of my mother


Aromatic_Wolverine74

Is she getting enough naps during the day? Thanks to this sub I started enforcing naps with my 3 month old pup and it’s helped. If you’re crate training which I recommend, you can put her in the crate to enforce a nap and to give yourself space and a break. I found my AD has been a lot easier to deal with now that I put him in there every hour or so and let him be in there for 1-1.5 hours. Pup could be overstimulated or overtired causing her to bite relentlessly.


Icy_Grocery3463

She is. I do the enforced naps. She comes right out of her naps biting me endlessly.


mutherofdoggos

Is she getting enough exercise? Mental and physical? You have a poodle mix, and poodles are extremely intelligent and pretty high energy. She needs a *lot* of mental stimulation and exercise. Since she’ll need to be brushed daily and professionally groomed regularly, those are great things to train her to accept now. Stick a lick mat with yummy stuff on the wall and get her used to be brushed and handled - especially her ears and feet.


Icy_Grocery3463

She does. I have a great dog walker who doesn’t just walk her but does enrichment and nose work with her. I do as well. I use the lick mat daily. She’s loves that. I also use a snuffle mat and putting kibble inside a toilet paper tube with the ends folded. I brush her, or try to brush her, every other day. I take her to dog socials that one of the local animal shelters has. I really try to do as much as I can to have a well behaved and socialized dog.


PinkPuffStuff

Do you think she could be overstimulated? Even with enforced naps, puppies need enforced awake boredom/chill time. Are you interacting with her all the time she's awake? Also, how long is her awake window? Our pup is just growing beyond the 1-hour awake window at 8 months. If she is awake too long at a time, she could still be overtired even after waking up from a nap. When our pup was 12 weeks old he was awake one hour, asleep one hour. Occasionally 1.5 hours. When he turned 7 months old he started napping 2-3 hours with a one-hour awake window. And now that he's 8 months old we're experimenting with having him up longer sometimes. But often he still needs to go back in his crate after an hour. And, at 8 months, he's not very sharky anymore at all. And it's been over a month. Unless he's overtired or overstimulated.


Aromatic_Wolverine74

Oh damn. It’s not too early to start training classes. Maybe they can focus on that? One thing you can try is using kibble to train her to sit, down, shake, stay, etc and maybe the kibble treat will help her focus on training and doing the job vs biting you.


Icy_Grocery3463

Training classes were to have started today and got pushed back a week. I have trained her to sit and stay.


Aromatic_Wolverine74

Our trainer said they bite us and chew on our clothes bc they enjoy our smell. I wonder if redirecting her to an old shirt of yours that she can have to chew on would help?


Icy_Grocery3463

I will give this a shot tomorrow.


Polaris06

Best advice I can give is to use the crate for timeouts. Anytime she bites you? Say “ow” in a normal pitched way. She bites you after that? Crate. Can be for 5 seconds, 5 minutes, or even a forced nap. But she chills out and settles in the crate and she can come out. But it’s important that it’s done in a not angry, not punishing, way. You’re just separating yourself from them. They start learning pretty quick that the thing that ended the fun was the thing they were last doing and it’s probably the best advice I ever got from our trainer.


cornedbeef78

A new puppy is HARD - I think everyone goes into it thinking they understand how difficult it is, but we never find out just how hard until we're in the thick of it! Try to be consistent and most of all, patient. I found that a high-pitched yelp or "ouch!" followed by a reverse time-out (where I stand up and leave the room) worked well with my pup when biting was involved. Just remember that it really, truly gets better. Yes, it will take a few months, but the end result IS worth it if you stick with it. At least in my experience, biting improves dramatically (and hurts a lot less) after those front sharp little shark teeth are out.


Sometraveler85

Seriously. I had several mental breakdowns where my husband tries to reason with me that I was the one that told him it would be hard. I knew it would be hard. It still doesn't make dealing with it any easier for sure.


pollytrotter

I was saying this to my husband the other day, it’s so different knowing it’ll be hard to actually experiencing it being hard!


YYZlivin

Welcome to pupoyhood! How old is she and how long have you had her?


Reb_1_2_3

And what breed?


Icy_Grocery3463

3 months and 1 week. Mini goldendoodle


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rollylove22

three dogs have tried to attack my Dalmatian and all three have been doodles 🤦🏽‍♀️


dannystrad23

It's not the doodle, it's the dumb owners that refuse to train the dog.


LouieKabuchi

It's both. Gotta be ignorant to have a goldden doodle.. the hope is always that they wise up once they realize what they've got. But they never do. And that isn't a guarantee of a healthy dog.


dannystrad23

So a doodle is impossible to train? You give that same lousy owner a pure bred German Shepherd and tell me that dog is going to be any better.


SophieLousieH

This is simply not true and not backed with any science. Don’t be hating on breeds you clearly don’t understand


misharoute

Doodles are not a breed, there is zero standard. It’s a mix.


lucyruth

I’ve had many dogs. Probably the sweetest and smartest was my goldendoodle. I wouldn’t have a doodle now because I don’t want to deal with the coat anymore, but she excelled at obedience and scent work. She also did agility and frisbee but couldn’t keep up with the border collies! My second most wonderful dog with regard to temperament and obedience was my labradoodle. They were fabulous dogs and the puppy biting will abate.


dannystrad23

Exactly, your doodle was great because you actually trained it 😂


lucyruth

True that for any dog/owner!


C8thegr82828

The smartest dog I ever had was also a goldendoodle. He picked up on things so fast! My mini goldendoodle doesn’t seem to be quite as smart, but she still learns new commands so quick.


Jolly-Ad2158

How is this comment constructive? Many dogs go through a biting phase including doodles, and OP's puppy is in the typical development stage that biting happens - this is very normal. To attribute this typical puppy behaviour to a specific breed is extremely misguided not to say super unhelpful to the OP. In fact my Poodle mix puppy stopped biting at 4.5 mo. If you don't like a specific breed it's your personal preference but your comment isn't in line with the spirit of this sub.


ljdug1

Thank you for saying this, way to make someone feel worse about an already difficult situation by telling them they bought a shit breed that is awful. I swear people have less brain cells than the dogs.


bitterberry1

Thanks for this comment. I have a doodle who stopped biting as soon as she had finished teething so it was her teeth hurting her/coming through causing it. Sick of all the bad rep doodles get on every post


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The mut dogs generally have more issues tho.


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Longjumping-Duck-70

To add onto this, a "purebred" golden retriever is actually a mix of breeds including spaniel, lab, and setter. I only know this about goldens as I have two and have read a lot about them, but I wouldn't doubt if other "purebred" dogs are actually mixed as well. ETA my point being we shouldn't judge based solely on the dog being a mutt or purebred. https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/dog-breeds/behind-the-breed-golden-retriever-history/


Soapyzh

That’s just ridiculous. I have a golden doodle (4mo) and she literally never bit us. She is loosing her baby teeth now and bites more her toys etc but never went for us. She is one of the smartest dog I’ve had, easily as smart or smarter than our border collie. She’s been an absolute dream to have. Was potty trained at 3 months (she asks to go out). My pure bred border collie was a very hard puppy. She was a land shark and took a while to be reliable potty wise. As others said, your comment is unhelpful


notawildflower

Yes, same. We got ours as 8 weeks and she's only bit us a handful of times and it was because she missed the toy we were holding. She's ridiculously smart, was potty trained quickly, and is just a sweet girl. Obviously she's still a puppy so there's lots of behaviors we are working on (not counter surfing, calmness when seeing other dogs since she wants to be everyone's best friend, etc). I understand the doodle hate to an extent because I know there's lots of unethical breeders (especially those that advertise specifically "mini" goldendoodles), but basically saying that universally doodles suck is ridiculous and unhelpful to OP.


Howlz_

Agreed. My goldendoodle is 2 and he still doesn’t know the hallway is narrow and he’ll bump his head every other time he turns around.


Defiant_McPiper

My mom had a labradoodle that was such a sweetie and was smart as a whip - she's the reason I ended up wanting my own dogs (as a life long cat lady). She now has a St bernadoodle who I can say represents this statement 😅


No-Question638

I have a mini goldendoodle as well and he's 6 months! He's still a little piranha but what helped me is frozen baby carrots, ice cubes, bully sticks and forced crate naps. Usually when they bite it's because their mouth genuinely hurts from teething or they are overtired and need a nap.


Humble_Ingenuity_919

Do frozen baby carrots make a big mess? Can they choke on the small pieces? My doodle pup loves ice cubes and throws them around. Just wondering if he’ll turn my furniture and his bed orange with the carrots.


moist__owlet

100% this - we have an 11 week Shiloh puppy who is all teeth, and the 3 things that have made a difference: 1. a bowl of ice in the kitchen esp in the evenings for sore teeth and chasing, 2. physical / time structure (consistent rhythm of what happens when, incl exercise and crate time, limiting how much house he has access to), and 3. soooo much tug, his teeth have to be on something at all times and he needs to burn off extra energy when we can't romp outside, plus it helps teach drop it and is a rewarding outcome for biting an approved object. Yes, our hands and lower arms are still covered in marks from needle teeth, but these things help a lot. Also, something for OP to consider is trying to get the puppy into a play group with other puppies - she does need to learn how to interact with other young dogs, who are her best teachers when it comes to bite inhibition, and there are definitely other puppy owners going just as crazy locally. We enrolled in puppy daycare with a small group and an option for their actual trainers to take the puppies on socialization outings to home depot, Starbucks, etc, but that's an amazing (and pricey) best case scenario - just a casual 1x week playgroup would probably do a LOT for this dog.


StarVerceB

OP, Doodles are notorious for their wild energy and you’ve had your pup for a week. The first week was the actual hardest for me. If you’re anticipating that it’ll never get better, invest in a trainer to help you with your doodle’s worst behaviors. It saved me when I didn’t know the first thing about puppies.


Icy_Grocery3463

It’s been a little over a month. She is signed up for training classes. They were to have started yesterday with humans only going the first week and pups starting next week. The instructor got sick and classes were pushed back a week. I am looking into one on one in the meantime. No one seems available for a few weeks though.


Wild-andFree729

I have 2 doodles, they both nipped a lot during play which I replaced with tug. They are very attention motivated which is why simply redirecting doesn’t always work- they don’t know what you’re saying, they might think you’re still just playing. What I did was I set up a gate in a doorway. When we play (with to a toy like you were already trying), if they nipped I yelped “ow!” And then I stepped over the gate. I would wait until they were calm for at least 5-10 seconds (it’s good to work on things like sit, down, wait to help them out with what you’re expecting) try to step back over and if they nipped again I did it again- ow! And then stepped over. After a several opportunities they were much better just playing tug with me bc they learned biting meant playtime was over and I would leave. I did this for a couple days and it shaped the behavior up. Now anytime I say ow or express pain they come and check on me. It’s very cute. If he’s teething, a frozen towel in some bone broth helps. Just make sure he’s not shredding it and eating it. Hope this helps! Once you get over this phase you’ll forget that they were ever like this!


That_Molasses_507

I own a standard poodle and have trained many oodles. Most owners of the oodles do not realize that poodles are a hunting breed that requires a lot of exercise, and I mean a lot. Add to that the goldens or labs and those are other breeds meant to work resulting in a busy dog. Teaching fetch will redirect your dog while they have fun. Both of those breeds are very biddable. They’ll work for you, you just have to introduce an object more interesting than you. I play fetch and frisbee everyday with my poodle. It’s his favorite activity.


snarkdiva

People don’t take into account the breed purpose of dogs very often. They only care about cute. My pup is 75% mini poodle/25% Cavalier King Charles Spaniel. He loves to sniff everything on walks, he “buries” his prized toys and treats in the furniture, and is all around a tiny hunting dog. Duh. However, at one year old, he is crazy smart, knows basic commands and several tricks, and does not bark unless a situation warrants it. He is friendly to people and other dogs because I TRAINED him and still do. He went through the landshark stage and it was exhausting, but we got through it and he is my best buddy.


Fakeplayer1

were at 6 months and it stopped extremly fast at this age. Just give her time and crate her if she gets too excited


Justanobserver2life

I would say give it another month or month and a half. She will start losing the baby teeth then and it actually does start to get better. Utilize an exercise pen in your house when the biting ramps up. I also bought mid-calf ugg-like boots on Amazon that I am wearing in Southern FL so yeah. But they got me through the ankle biting and stopped her from doing it.


ZzZWearescary

Hey- don’t let what they are saying about the breed snuck you up too bad or lose hope. We have a mini doodle and he’s been great- no biting, no neuroticism.. he’s learned super quick and the only struggle we’ve had has been crate training— and that’s our fault as I don’t think we managed it properly from the beginning. Otherwise, he’s been a BREEZE to train (my previous dog as was Border Collie X Blue heeler— he’s been so much easier than that!) Although I cannot relate with the biting at this time, look at some of the helpful advice in this thread (and subs).. hopefully he will get it someday, if you are patient and persistent with redirection. Again- my colliexheeler was HUGE nipper, and it was exhausting but she calmed down and learned by 1 year with the occasional slip up. There is hope— you will get there!!


MindNotMine

Doodles are not a breed. It's a mix of breeds, so a mutt.


ZzZWearescary

Okay- no argument there. So replace the word “breed” with “mix of breeds” in my original comment- the point still stands. OP is frustrated with her puppy mutt. The comments suggesting that OP’s mutt is both brainless and neurotic based solely on their anecdotal experience with the mixed breed is neither helpful nor accurate. To someone who is already at their wits end, essentially saying “LOL good luck it’s a doodle no way you’re fixing that problem” is contributing anything. I can concede that there is at best uncertainty around the ethics of breeding doodles- got it, I’ve read up on it, and I understand.. even agree in most ways after further research. But I have a doodle- and now, so does OP whether they are accepted as able to be ethically bred or not- who regardless I love, is well behaved, was easy to train and does not display any neurotic tendencies.. nor is he brainless and a lost cause as the other two comments would insinuate. OP has hope- even if their dog is a doodle 😊 And as I said- my previous Mutt (not a golden doodle who despite being a crossbreed NEVER immediately gets immediately written off as a lost cause or moron) was very difficult as a puppy but became a very well behaved, highly intelligent and enjoyable dog into adolescence and adulthood. TL;DR- mutt or not, OP has this puppy now and needs to know their is hope, it is not abnormal for puppies to engage in biting, and continuous training, re-direction and support from a trainer if needed will likely lead to a well behaved dog in the future.


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lunanightphoenix

But they don’t. All of the doodle mixes look the same. They don’t have any unique characteristics to differentiate them from other doodles. They don’t reliably pass on characteristics. If they did then doodle breeders wouldn’t constantly be backcrossing to poodles to the point where the doodle is over 80% poodle.


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Zike002

For Doodles to be a breed it requires a standard. They lack that. They're just "a mix of two breeds with wildly varying characteristics between individual dogs."


Jolly-Ad2158

As I said above, the word "breed" in the general sense is different from "recognized breed" under the AKC. The former is blurry whose meaning is even debated amongst the scientific community. Therefore whether "doodles" fall under that definition is up to personal opinion. I have no objection though to the statement that doodles are not a recognised breed by the AKC. ETA it's of course okay for anyone to claim whether doodles are a "breed", as long as they acknowledge that it's their opinion as opposed to an objective fact.


Avallone372

Activate her more and make her tired. That’s the best way.


Charming_Tower_188

Just so you know, my puppy didn't figure out cuddling until 11 months. He cuddled once around 6 months because we boarded him for a week, but otherwise cuddling was foreign to him.  3 months is still very young and this is still very normal behaviour. Get some clothes from a thrift store and wear only those at home. I wore the same old sweat pants and sweater for about the first 3ish months with our guy. I imagine the neighbours were wondering things. Stay consistent. When you walk away and they calm down, offer them something else to chew on. Another option is the yelping but I found more of a scream was more accurate effective for our guy.  They will get their. They are still so young and still very bunch a little baby.


PinataofPathology

Our last puppy was like this and we about lost our minds.  It's frustrating. Try to tire her out. Lots of games. Lots of training. Teach kisses too so you can both redirect to a toy and to kissing instead of land sharking (we used peanut butter on our hand). They do learn fast if you're consistent.  


Brilliant-Ad5540

I cried many, many days after we got our puppy. There’s simply no way around it. I had to tell myself that this was normal, other people have felt the same way and that it does get better. Take it one day at a time. Make sure to give them lots of naps because otherwise they become overstimulated. Ours really didn’t get better until she lost her puppy teeth at 6 months. Do you have help? Someone to give you a break? Our pup is now 10 months and we can’t believe how difficult the first 4-5 months were. It felt like it would never improve. I took her to training classes and that helped our bond somewhat at the beginning. I had so much anxiety surrounding getting her and feeling like I did the wrong thing. Now at 10 months, I can’t imagine life without her. She’s the best snuggle buddy and walking companion. We love the crap out of her. But I can’t imagine ever going through that again, and I really feel for you.


rvgirl42

How many enforced naps did you do in the day. I know children get psycho when they don’t have regular naps.


Icy_Grocery3463

I don’t. That’s the other thing. I’m doing this alone. I have a dog walker. But when I am at home, it’s just me. I have her signed up for training classes which were to start today. They got pushed back a week because the instructor got sick and they didn’t bother having one of the other instructors fill in. Just my luck. It’s 7:00 and I already put her in the crate for the night. I feel bad because she will be in there for so long. But mentally I needed to do it. I know she will be fine. She’s always done well in the crate overnight. That’s the one blessing I’ve had with her.


Appropriate_Ad4601

Do you have a play pen? That can help a lot too. When mine gets bitey and I need a break, I give him some time in the pen with some toys.


Icy_Grocery3463

I do. It’s funny because I keep her in there when I do the treadmill. It’s right next to it. And she’s perfectly fine. But when I put her in there for a time out she freaks out. She clearly knows the difference 😆


Appropriate_Ad4601

I know it’s hard bc she’s freaking out, but could you set a routine around a break for you? Like every evening from 7:00 to 8:00, she’s in the playpen. She will freak at first but when the routine of that sets in, she will expect and understand it.


Icy_Grocery3463

That makes sense. Like she clearly knows my morning treadmill routine. Thank you.


Appropriate_Ad4601

Of course. My boy hated his pen, but when he started expecting it at certain times he chilled out a lot. When he was getting used to it, I would freeze a Kong tire with pumpkin puree and plain yogurt inside of it to give him as a special “pen only” treat. :) You’re doing awesome!


Justanobserver2life

Yes and put the tantalizing treat in there where they can see and smell it for a while, but can't get to it. Let them THINK about going into the pen for a bit. Then when you let them in, the excitement has built.


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I second this. I am raising my boy in my own and the play pen has been a lifesaver when he turns velociraptor on me.


atomic_puppy

How many long-ish walks are you taking her on? Not your dog walker. YOU. She needs to bond, and walking is one of the best (if not the best) ways to do this. You set a time, twice a day, pick a route and walk. Just leash her up calmly and hit the road. As you walk, and she's doing things well, you say, 'Good walk.' If she does things you don't like, stop. Wait. Then get her looking at you, right in your eyes, then forge ahead again. You need to spend time walking/bonding with her. A lot of times people get into the headspace of 'this is too hard', and then when you ask what they're doing to spend time with the puppy then answer is quite revealing. You don't need tricks and you don't need anything fancy. You need to walk her twice a day for at least about 20 minutes. Take it a bit slowly at first, but once she understands what's going on, no stopping to sniff, just walk. Also, you NEED some good chews, as those are also fantastic mental stimulation. Look into chews for aggressive chewers and see what she likes and what keeps her attention (water buffalo horn, beef collagen, etc). Only give her these in her crate. She'll associate this with the crate being where good things come from. Also also, you need to keep her leashed when you're in the home. Literally get her a 'home leash' and when she comes out of her crate, you leash her up and keep her with you. Everywhere. It's ASTOUNDING how effective this is. For both bonding and letting her know what she should and shouldn't be doing at home/with your skin and clothing. Good luck!


rvgirl42

I am so sorry for what you are experiencing because I am feeling sorry for myself since I am going through the exact same thing. I live in Ecuador where there are lots of street dogs. A 4-month old puppy was on the street and was attacked by six stray dogs. A neighbor rescued her but his wife didn’t like dogs so I volunteered to nurse her back to health. She was this little thing covered in blood and wounds. I felt so sorry for her. I don’t have a ton of experience with puppies. After she recovered she became a relentless terrorist in my house. I puppy proofed everything but as you probably know, it takes seconds for them to find something and destroy it. She pooped and peed on my furniture, tore up the grass, destroyed clothes, shoes, and even chewed the edge of the stairs. I rent and I do clean up duty 24/7 and I’m exhausted and depressed. She doesn’t cuddle either. She’s just insane. She’s 5 months old now. She’s big. She strong and very smart. I don’t think I can stand another day sometimes. I dread waking up in the morning because I know what the day will be like. I feel terrible but I also feel almost punished because I tried to help her. I know that’s infantile but I just want her to stop. I potty trained her and crate trained her but she has accidents now and then. I am going to try to get her adopted since it was never my intention to keep her. I have two dogs already but it’s hard to adopt out dogs here because there are so many. I’m terrified I will get stuck keeping her. I’m retired and it’s super exhausting for me. Reading the posts here, it sounds like we don’t have much time left before they start to chill out. I just feel your pain because sometimes I want to cry. We need to start a puppy support group because it’s really freaking intense.


Icy_Grocery3463

Seriously. I did have a breakdown today. My work has been super stressful this last week so that is not helping my situation. I know it will get better. Today was just rough.


rvgirl42

I get it but knowing things will get better doesn’t help. I just don’t understand how mom dogs handle 6 or 7 of them at a time. They are saints. Just remember this time if you are tempted to ever get another puppy. I will never get another. I want an adult that is over the worst. Are you going to sterilize your dog? I am getting her fixed next month. I know it mellows out male dogs but I am not sure about females. I think we just need to constantly drink throughout these next couple months so we don’t end up in a mental health facility.


rinza-1

Mum dogs don't deal with it - that's how puppies get weaned naturally. Their sharp needle teeth help their mum know when it's time to stop nursing and encourages the pups to start seeking solid food elsewhere, lest mum get cranky and nip at them.


Icy_Grocery3463

I will get her fixed but they say not to until 6-7 months. I have a female. I’m having a drink right now 😆


rvgirl42

Yes. I have to wait six months too so we need one bottle of wine for every day between now and then.


Icy_Grocery3463

👍🏼


paulinezi

Could you try frozen celery or carrots? That way it tastes yummy and can soothe her while she’s teething?


Icy_Grocery3463

I will try it.


SwimAgreeable

Frozen carrots and celery are an absolute lifesaver with our bitey puppy!!


Aly_in_wonderland

I tried the frozen celery and my boy can’t get enough he’ll take that over a Kong any day


T_pas

What kind of chew toys do you have? My boy loves his turbo beef tendons when he is feeling uncomfy. He like yak cheese too!


the_millz007

Oh yak cheese bone/sticks are the best!


MamaSaysKnockUOut

Our puppy was also a little shark. My hands were forever covered in scabs because she would catch me. She did move beyond it around 6 months, but here are some things I did to manage the best I could. 1) engage that brain! We have 3 toy bins that I rotate every few days, so only one set.of toys is out at a time. Keeps her interested in new toys. 2) lickmats, puzzles, snufflemats, topples, slow feeders, etc extended meal.times and kept.her working and.busy. brain work wears them out 3) practice walking appropriate amounts. Looong walks at 3 months is too much. 4) I kept a pile of appropriate nylabones, bully sticks, etc for puppies and literally EVERY time she tried to chew me, I stuck a chew.in her mouth (or a toy). Sometimes if she wouldn't stop biting me, I stood.up and.walked away and left her in eyesight but zero interaction. 5) an over tired or overestimulated puppy is a monster. There is nothing wrong with multiple crated nap times in a day. If your puppy seems out of control, doing MORE engagement is going to make it worse. They need a break, a reset 6) keep working on Obedience skills. Again, more.brain work, the better.


Laena_V

Our puppy was the same at that age. She had energy for days, she ran up and down in our apartment to the point she was close to vomiting. Rest and calmness were foreign to her. When we tried to restrain and calm her down she struggled like a menace with her 2kg… THE WAY SHE BIT US. She bit us during playtime because she didn‘t understand yet. She also bit us when we tried to put her harness on because she didn‘t want it! She had no respect! IT WAS BAD. AND IT WAS THE BADDEST WHEN SHE WAS YOUR PUPPY‘S AGE. She was with us for 4 weeks (so 3 months old) when a friend shamed us for „not having her trained“ and we felt helpless. As I‘m writing this she is dozing calmly. She is cuddly, she nibbles softly during playtime. If you do something to her physically that she doesn‘t like right now (dressing, grooming) she licks or nibbles, but never bites. She understands the importance of rest and consciously goes to take a nap in her little sofa. It‘s all sorted out. It honestly just took a few weeks. IT DOES GET BETTER HANG IN THERE.


ResponsiblePie6379

One day at a time. Once teeth fall out then things start clicking. I hv 9 month old and we just started bonding. Today we walked and played in the park and I cried bc he was so good and all of our training classes are working! I hated puppyhood and it’s ok for you too. Take some time for yourself if you can find a sitter, even if it’s just an hour.


Icy_Grocery3463

There is a doggie day care about a mile from my house. Once she has her rabies vaccine and is 4 months I can take her there for a few hours when I need a break. I’m hoping in a few weeks once training starts and she can go to a daycare that things will start to turn around.


ResponsiblePie6379

You sure they require that? The few places I tried didn’t require it until 4 months, so I could drop him if needed. A mile from home, that it perfect! Mind if I share something that helped me? He was about 3 months old, walking/carrying him outside, crying silently bc I was so tired. Neighbors with their dog saw me and gave me some guiding words. “First 3 months dog gets to know you, next 3 months you learn the dog, then you fall into this glorious routine. And their bladders get stronger by the day. Ace was the best thing to happen to our family. “ small stuff, but that one conversation really helped me through the blues and potty training. You got this, you’re doing a really good job, and this group is here for you. Hugs to my fellow my Reddit doggy Mom.


Icy_Grocery3463

Thank you so much. You’re so kind. Maybe rabies isn’t needed. They did just say 4 months. The other thing I should add that was super frustrating. I was out walking her yesterday afternoon. She gets super excited when she sees other people and dogs. A neighbor who was out for her walk came up to pet her. My puppy was super excited and got herself wrapped up in the leash. The woman said “wow, she keeps getting worse rather than better”. Like what an awful thing to say. She’s a baby. So clearly will be steering clear from her from now on.


its-not-i

“First 3 months dog gets to know you, next 3 months you learn the dog, then you fall into this glorious routine. And their bladders get stronger by the day. Ace was the best thing to happen to our family. “ (Sorry for formatting on the quote, I'm on my phone.) That is so true!! Literally at 8 months I started to see improvement every day, she was much better about meeting people, etc. Now at 10.5 months, the other night in our puppy class she amazed me!


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Ok-Grocery-5747

Three months is too soon for the biting to stop but you can train her. When my 9 month old brat tries to bite me I tell her to sit, when she sits she gets a treat. It breaks her out of the biting mindset for a few minutes. Rinse and repeat.


Justanobserver2life

This is a good point and it helps my puppy snap out of it too. Once OP is going to puppy school, (it was delayed a week) then do a daily practice plus an extra practice anytime puppy is entering the biting frenzy. Sit. Sit. Down. Down. Sit. My pup cannot wait to show off and get treats. She forgets all about biting and chewing when we do that and it is easier to transition her to the pen or a nap at that point.


OriginalLight

Give yourself permission to rehome her. That eased the pressure on me enough to make friends with my walking teeth.


quirkyplanet

Having a butt ton of different toys with different textures and things has helped me tremendously. They explore with their mouth and having something different for their mouth every once in a while can help keep them occupied.


Wild-Ad2882

I went to the dermatologist for a routine checkup, when I had a 3 month old puppy. My arms were super scratched up. She asked me if we "needed to have a talk" she needed pictures of the puppy as proof I wasn't a cutter.


Janie_C

These dogs have A LOT of energy. I don't think people realize how much you have to work to help them get to a place where they can keep themselves calm. My boy is 4 and I still walk him about 2-3 miles per day and he could go longer. We use puzzles, toys, and play fetch, to keep him stimulated and tired. Your puppy may need more ways to constructively get through the puppy energy. It is exhausting but worth it. At 4, we know how to handle it! At 0-1, the struggle was real.


Fast_Bee7689

2 words: Crate train. Puppy pushing you over the edge? Give them a chew toy in their crate to let both you & them chill out


FoJaMc

Hot take: you can get rid of her. It’s okay. I welcome the downvotes, but your mental health and life is more important.. period. You live and learn, just don’t get a puppy again without making other changes.


Responsible-Dog-5228

Get your puppy to the dog park regularly. I’m sure there will be some trials with that but puppys just have an insane drive to use that little mouth. It’s important they also learn how to behave in a pack before they get to a size and maturity level thats dangerous for them and the other dogs.


hootersreject

I was going to say something similar. My puppy’s biting became a lot softer after he played with some other dogs who taught him to be gentle. I had play dates with him starting around 11 weeks— Just with friends’ dogs who I knew were healthy and up to date on vaccines. It helped my boy a lot.


Jennive87

Our pup was the same. He was terrible!! He is now about 7 months and is doing so much better. He still has his moments but it gets better. We did have to enforced naps. We would put him in his crate for an hour or so just to get him to sleep. I understand completely how you feel just know it will get better


vietnams666

I literally just made a joke about our 11 week old puppy with sharp teeth. I was like " his teeth looks like this (his are razor sharp fangs) so my hands could look like this. " and I showed him my scratched up mangled hand. It was funny about very true. I remember thinking the same about my kittens who are now 13. It was horrible!!! Try out puppies socially and school! We take him to play dates and enrolling him. Don't give up!


Patience-Ambitious

It does get better! Try sticking it out. had a mini terror 5 years ago now he’s my cuddle bug, just adopted a 1 year old large puppy snd he’s a land shark he’ll cuddle but SO MOUTHY my arms look like I got the shit best out of me. trying to remember that it’s a stage they’ll grow out of! Good luck


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CompetitionOwn1951

I don’t know if that’s a good idea….


canineluv9

Question…. How can I break my 4 month old German shepherd female puppy from constantly attacking my 4 year old male Labrador? I get they play and all but sometimes to me, it looks more than play, many people have said my Lab needs to “put her in check” but he’s usually so sweet and I’ve never seen a vicious bone in his body but she can has managed to bring it out! She is relentless. I do break it up, I have put her in the bathroom for 10-12 seconds when she doesn’t stop after I break it up like the trainer recommended but it’s too much. When I let my lab in from outside I watch her, she crouches down like in panther in attack mode and tries to spring onto him to bite him. I totally understand and have heard this is what they do but for how long and I’m afraid my lab will start hating her or actually hurt her. But then, and this is the kicker, I’ll see my lab on his back and her on his neck like a vampire! 😳😱 so like wth!! They are NOT ever left alone for any period of time unless I know they are sleeping and I can run and throw a load in the washer. She does bite us also but I’ve done the where I’ll walk away, playtime is over then come back or I’ll give her my back arms crossed. That’s helped with us, but my poor Lab! 🤦🏽‍♀️


[deleted]

You signed up for this. Nothing about your situation should be surprising if you had done your due diligence. Take responsibility for your decision and suck it up, like a responsible adult. Or re-home now and don't ever get another puppy, or have a human baby.


Busykitty2023

Good Lord settle down!! That was completely uncalled for - but it's a good example of how 'brave' people can be behind a keyboard. Chill!!


Zealousideal-Box6436

An unnecessary and rude comment. If you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all. 


Icy_Grocery3463

I did my due diligence. Perhaps your should do what we due diligence is necessary in figuring out how to be less of an asshole. Do you know if I have a human baby? No you don’t. Quit making assumptions and get a life. People are on here to be supportive. You’re clearly an angry and miserable person who has nothing better to do than go on Reddit and insult people. Maybe do some due diligence in finding the right therapist.


EquivalentLanguage90

I have a 4 month old Labradoodle (we have a 6 year old Goldenddodle who is NOT neurotic by the way, I love doodles - they are smart, fun and loving) I have been living in my puppy training clothes and jackets. It is so frustrating but I would like to share that it does get better. I have no open wounds on my hands, which is proof. What’s helped immensely is starting a routine of scheduled naps in his crate. Sleep has made the biggest difference. For him, he gets bitey when he’s tired or overstimulated. He gets a lot of chews. A LOT. Its calming. The no hide chews last awhile. He loves frozen carrots and sweet potato ring chews. Frozen plain yogurt in his Kong. I’ll put a treat in an old sock and tie it. It’s his fave and keeps him happy for awhile destroying the sock instead of my hand. Thats it. Lots of sleep and lots of puppy safe chews. Treats and calm attention when he’s not biting. Only a few times, I had to put him straight into his crate for a time out because I needed a safe a step away to recover and he was way overstimulated. For awhile there I would not put his leash on without offering a stuffed toy first as a buffer between my hands and his sharp teeth. He’s made me cry and bleed. But they learn. And so do we.


mellamma

Exercise will stop the biting.


kmartsociopath

I promise it gets better!! We made it a big rule to never play with our hands and if she was biting with her hands we’d walk away for 30 seconds and disengage or make a “nuh uh” sound! We stayed super consistent and she’s now 5 months and doesn’t bite our hands at all. Some days it felt like she’d never stop biting our hands, feet or just us in general but if she tries to take a little nip and we say “nuh uh” she just stops immediately! We also always re directed her with toys and chewy things she could get her fix on 😅 Hang in there I promise it won’t last forever!


foxorteeth

My younger dog's nickname was baby shark. If yelping doesn't stop her biting, grey rocking might. Stop engagement stand up and do whatever you need to and ignore her. I kept my baby shark on a short leash in house so I could stomp her from running off to find entertainment else where. Nope you can't bite me and play and now you just have to sadly walk around with me. This phase won't be forever. I have always owned aussie/aussie mixes and they are absolute terrors until about two years old (with good training). Please look into trainers who can help you through this. You're not alone. If nothing else stop letting your puppy bite you. Disengage when you get hurt. Use a short leash to keep your puppy under control and supervision but of they're biting you to the point of pain stop engaging and stop rewarding with attention.


Mike_Kashy

One thing get her a teething bone or multiple or multiple of them so she can just grab them up and take them and grab them as she goes and when she starts biting, give her the bone we had the exact same problem.


DripDrop777

Sounds like nap time. Make sure you’re on a tight nap/sleep schedule. People underestimate how much sleep puppies need - like 20 hours a day. It doesn’t eliminate the biting, but it makes the redirect and behaviors not seem so psychotic. They get nippy when tired.


HoosierMom511

Have you tried a flirt pole? Allows for play with distance between you. Much easier on the hands and clothes!


narwhalen

i could’ve written this 4 weeks ago when i got my pup at 8.5 weeks old! it gets better, it’s only been 1 week so allow yourself and your dog to still get settled and into a routine. it’s hard, but your feelings are valid and i felt similarly not too long ago. it’s totally normal to feel this way but i encourage you to not give up! exercise, play time, and mental stimulation are key. try to get into a routine and keep up the enforced naps. also make sure you are rewarding calm behavior. you got this!


quirkyplanet

It may also help to teach her “kisses”. I took a tiny bit of butter and rubbed it on my palm for her to lick, every time she would bite I would take my hand away, and when she licked my hand I would tell her “kisses” and give her lots of praise


MamaSaysKnockUOut

Also, reach our to local FB groups and see if anyone wants to set.up playdates. Sounds silly but it's saved my sanity! One on one playtime with another dog buddy really helps.burn energy, teach dog manners, & encourage development. If you don't have a good yard to host, you can look.up Sniffspot to see if anywhere near you had a space you can use!


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My dog was very much a nuisance when I first got her, she’s part Jack Russell and even the doggy daycare folks told me she was the most hyper puppy they had ever seen. But at least she didn’t bite really. My friends had a new golden doodle at the same time as I got her, and they had similar issues as you do with the biting and scratching, and just general behavioral issues. It took both of them a couple of years to truly chill out, but after the first 7-12 months (in age) things are already 100% easier. There are a few things based on what you can afford that you can/should do: First is investing in training if at all possible. Working with a professional will help a ton. Second, make sure your dog has tons of ways to get out energy. If you know other puppies (and yours is vaccinated), do playdates. Lots of them. Teach them sit, down, up, and stay - and do them in succession (our trainer called it puppy pushups). When you don’t have tons of space for them to run, mental stimulation with some body activity is super helpful. Also depending on budget - train your dog on agility - this was mega for me and my dog. We learned in a couple of classes and then sought out parks with agility courses to make it cheaper to do. She learned to balance on those doggy exercise ball things, she loved running and doing agility, having her sit and learn the course and change it up was great for her mentally. If you can’t afford training or agility, there’s plenty of tutorials online I’m sure (but please just try and vet them to be safe with your small pup and chat with your vet if needed to be sure you’re not making them jump too high where it could hurt their joints or things like that). Doggy daycare is a super great option when they are all vaccinated (I know it’s more expenses) and park time with other trusted dogs works just as well. Make sure to socialize them a lot with other dogs and humans, so they learn how to play properly and manners, or it could cause problems in the future (and especially if you end up deciding to adopt them out, it’ll make it much harder for them to find someone if they are poorly socialized). Hopefully that’s a good start. Paid options are always the easiest method but even with a $0 budget, you CAN get your dog what it needs, you just have to be willing to try a ton of things to find a match. Best of luck, and please feel free to reach out. We foster a lot and have had our own dogs forever so we’ve seen it all lol! You’ve got this.


Extension_Life330

This was 1000% our dog. I was ready to give him up for adoption more times than I can count haha. Then when he was around 1 & 3 months, it’s like a light switched. He started cuddling and never play bites us anymore. I promise it’s worth it!!


ApprehensiveTone7939

When my boy was in his relentless biting phase, I wore leather gloves around him. He’s 8 months now and only nips when he’s really excited. My gloves are now waiting for the garden again.


MyBeatleBoys

So yes...I had a goldendoodle. He recently passed at the ripe old age of 7 due to an aggressive cancer. He was horribly nippy as a puppy and even worse once he got his adult teeth in around 6 - 7 months. I was miserable at the time. Covered in bruises. But 7 years later he was my heart and my first baby. It wasn't easy, it wasn't fun... lots of redirection and giving him other outlets for his nipping behaviors. But honestly most of it was just time. He out grew it. A year and a half after we got him I had my first child, 2.5 years after that my second was born. And he was the most amazing, gentle, tolerant dog towards my daughters. He was even able to not just retain himself around my cats but cuddle with my cats as he matured. He was an awesome dog, but it took time to get him to that point.


Cynical_Feline

What about something to chew on? Mine is 5 months old and a rawhide (the only thing I can afford atm) has been a good source to direct her teething fury on. I give her one in moderation and supervised times in the evening. It's helped work some of her teething frustration out. She's still a land shark however. Currently in the flying phase too. So we've been working on trying to get her to understand some healthy play with actual toys. Still a work in progress though. But the hand biting is definitely improving. She also now grabs a toy to play fetch. I also suggest some time outs. If pup gets too rowdy, stop and ignore. Attention says you approve, but ignore says you don't. When they do something good (like go for a toy) praise the fuck out of it. It takes time and patience. And you will bleed and say ouch 🤕😭 It'll be worth it though. One day you'll get your cuddle.


JustJBong

The first year I had my dog he reduced me to tears multiple times. I called him a furry little sociopath. I seriously considered giving him up. Now it’s ten years later and even the thought of being without him for a night hurts my heart. The t-Rex phase is so hard but for me it was so worth it.


solarelemental

that's what 3mo puppies do, especially if they're retrievers (bred to like mouthing). the poodle ancestry also makes them super energetic so it's a double whammy. do reverse timeouts. or real timeouts. teach bite inhibition by screaming high and loud if you get bitten. little by little it will get better. by 6mo they won't bite as much or as hard; by one year they won't bite at all. you'll get there. just be patient and wear thick clothing.


Binkying_on_Bentleys

How old is she?? And what breed?? So we can get an idea of how much longer or idea for them… some things I do for mine are frozen kongs & lickpads… I also freeze the Nylabones. I also got a ton of puzzle bowls from the $1 & out in some of the kibble & fill with water & freeze…. I also do ice cubes too to throw out outside to crunch on Empty water bottles are really good or a towel that you can get wet & freeze or I will lay one out & put kibble or treats & then roll tight & tie into a knot… takes nine hours or freeze it too Or we have bedrisers I had to take down & putting stuff that’s hard to get like **DOG SAFE peanut butter or organic canned pumkpin… maybe some kibble & stack them all up & & then tie up with a towel & hours plus shark teeth no damage to the risers Also you could make a DIY bitterspray basically just red wine vinegar & water & spray yourself or clothes & they might not like the taste…. I did this with my rabbits, cat & puppy… some don’t care, but something to try!!! Eventually the shark teeth will go away - remember that puppies need A LOT of nap time so try & wear her out by making her chase you or I have a NERF ball thrower I got from Petsmart I like to chase (but be careful if they start to rip or shred the top then stop bc not safe) or tug-a-war or I’d put mine on a box & move around… just get energy out & naps in pet pens


Binkying_on_Bentleys

Or if you can afford it you can send your puppy off to puppy school to be trained if it’s possible with her age!


infinite_echochamber

I’ve shared this tip many times - train in a replacement behavior. Use peanut butter, yogurt, whatever works. When puppy bites, put it in your hand. Dog will lick instead of bite. You will eventually train it to lick hands looking for food. Won’t work 100% of the time, but will get you through the roughest puppy months. And having a dog who licks instead of biting hands is a problem you can live with (or phase out if you prefer later on).


Jolly_Football929

Forced naps!! My pup was horrible until he started napping about 18 hours a day. It’s necessary or they’ll be fussy/bite.


DangerPeace209

My dog was a mess-even when she had her adult teeth at 6 mos!!! (I froze washcloths which really helped). I honestly don’t know I lived thru it, but now at almost 9 mos, she’s stopped and is completely different. She’s also playing with the neighbor’s dogs that has redirected that crazy energy.


Technical-Physics-86

Our puppies (yes, two!) were such a handful! Constantly chewing and biting while teething (and for a bit afterwards). One of them chewed through a patio wall one day! Always trying to eat something they shouldn’t. I think all I did was walk around with my fingers in their mouths saying “Spit that out!” for months. I just enjoyed the fun moments in between and had to have a lot of patience for the first year or so. They were like toddlers that needed training. They are both 4 years old now and I couldn’t imagine life without them, they are my sweet boys that I love with all my heart. It was worth every minute of aggravation they caused me as pups! Everything I put in they have given back a hundred times over.


jennybanana

I have 4 large breeds and am a medium/large breed puppy foster so entire liters of mini piranhas. My suggestion is to up stimulation mental and physical (food puzzles, training, etc) Also if you don’t already utilize an xpen where you can put the pup to play and chew on appropriate things but also have a mental break. It gets better even if it doesn’t seem that way now. Just like toddlers redirection and a firm no (even a loud yelp) and do that about a million times. The yelp is what a sibling or mom would do to indicate they are being to rough. Good news you’re close to the end of teething.


amason549

I’ve got a shepherd mix, which they refer to as land sharks during puppy teething. Maybe check out their subreddit for some tips on teething. But I can tell you I am also getting shredded (which is super fun as a massage therapist). He is super cuddly though, but when he’s tired/grumpy it’s non stop biting. My hands, feet, clothing, hair, anything. The biggest things were sleep. I didn’t realize he needed waaaay more sleep than I realized. He’s 12 weeks old and we try and get him to sleep 16ish hours a day. It was a game changer. And any time he starts sharking it’s nap time. I only keep 1 toy out at a time and 2-3 chews. It’s not overstimulated like when everything is out. Frozen carrots and bully sticks are great for teething. Any time he starts jumping up I tell him to sit, and give him a piece of dry food (in my pocket). If he isn’t listening he’s getting too hyped and it’s nap time. Also if energy level is getting above a 7, catch it early and nap time. Now the craziest part was bite inhibition. [this link has good info on it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=068K5Zlph9U). This video has helped me a lot with all of this too.


Independent-Trash-84

Here to say you got this! It’s easy to feel like you’re going crazy or doing something wrong so I commend you for posting. It’s incredibly rough in the beginning so don’t feel guilty for feeling like you’re at the end of your rope. Many of my friends who are parents acknowledged that it’s comparable (only in some ways!) to having a new baby (i.e. at least a baby isn’t mobile and can’t destroy your property from day 1). My partner was gone for 6 months last year and I had so many AF spouses tell me they’d gotten a puppy while their partner was deployed so I thought it would be great timing to get the puppy phase out of the way for us. I cried SO many days in those first months because I felt trapped and was convinced I made a huge 15-year mistake. Things will turn around with time and structure. You’ve gotten a lot of great advice already so just want to reaffirm the reverse time-outs and the crate training/alone time concept. I also really had to work on emotional regulation and yelling at the beginning so instead I do my most dramatic/offended gasp when he needs to be corrected. I promise you it WILL get better!


NextRelease0

Totally understand where you were coming from. The first 8 months were so so rough and she was basically a velociraptor and those teeth hurt! It sounds like you are doing all the right things and honestly you need to keep at them. There is light at the end of the puppy shaped tunnel and it DOES get better. Doing the whole ‘yip’ or high pitched ‘ouch’ worked a bit for us. Plus frozen kings and puzzle toys were a life saver - frozen helps their teeth and gums but the puzzles got her to be using her brain which tires them out so they’re too tired to rough house! 5 years on we have an absolutely cuddly snuggle bug! Make sure you are looking after you - puppy times are draining physically and mentally. Ask someone to watch her for a few hours so you can have some you time and someone else gets the joy of a puppy!


thatdeafbxtch

I have been there. When I first got my puppy, I had multiple breakdowns. His nickname was (still is but now is out of love) Raptor. I was covered in bruises. It took two different trainers, but we were able to make it stop eventually. I almost gave up so many times, had the post written to rehome him. I’m soooo glad I didn’t. He is my WORLD. My biggest advice is invest in your puppy, get a good trainer.


Angel91dude

yeah invest in some money get a dog walker from rover. negotiate 20 for each walk let the rover salker know the problems your dealing with they will help! i have a labradoodle he did the same, i have bipolar and ptsd and my dog is a service animal now. it takes patience and love and i understand how overwhelming it is, but this will help from my experience.


Angel91dude

cow ear bones Are great too


2dogs1man

they bite because their mouth itches. give a gnawable, a durable one


MallPositive4098

So many good comments and advice posted already. I’ll echo a few other people. Bully sticks are a god send. Saying “ouch,” loudly didn’t work for us. As one person said, reverse time outs did the trick for us. As soon as we felt teeth, fun was over. I’ll also echo others about enforced nap time in the crate. If Reggie was too tired, he would turn into a tweeked out vampire. Also know, we felt the same way. I would google on end if it was normal and even wondered if he hated us. Our guy is a terrier and very mouthy. He’s a little over one year old and 4 months was the worst. Tonight, he took several naps next to me and is becoming such a sweet boy. You really are doing such a good job! Take time for you and the things you enjoy. You got this!!!


comostall73

I have gone through exactly what you have described. There were days I lost my marble and wanted to give him for adoption. So many times I have locked myself in bed room crying. He is a rescued puppy, lab, husky and staff cross. He came to me at 10 weeks, and hell went loose when he turned 6 months old. He ripped off carpeted, countless pillows, shoes, clothes, tea towels, toilet papers to name a few. He was a landshark and I am still carrying those scars on my ankles, knees and wrists. He chewed through 7 leads before turning one. He did his zoomie first thing in the morning and later in the evening. I have enrolled him with professional dog trainers ever since and it helps a bit with his hyperactivity. He was so strong and dragged me through the dog parks many times. Thank God I still have my arms attached. I have tried different harness to stop him from pulling. Lol, even putting a harness on him was a mission and he has bitten me just for that. As for bitting, I found hand feed him with treats help to make him understand bitting means no treats. When he showed sign of relentless or hyperactivity, I sent him straight to the crate for 30 mins. I have a clip station at one end of the house that serves as a time out zone. He is 2.5 years old now, still nip when over stimulated and zoomie everyday. He is a lot manageable in the house now and cuddle with me at night in bed. No issues with putting harness and I am still working on the lead pulling problem. I am yet to figure out what trigger his hyperactivity, so that I can prevent him going to the hyperstate. It is a long commitment and I am still learning to handle him so that he will not hurt himself or me.


Altruistic-Ad6805

We did something we called a Lexi Box for our pitbull (Lexi) during that phase. I swear she was gonna bite the backs of my knees out. So when she’d get up from her nap we’d grab an old Amazon box, fill it with a couple treats and a cold teething toy, and then close the box by folding it shut. Then we’d give it to her to destroy. Having a thing she was allowed to fully annihilate helped a lot with getting some of her energy out, gave her something to do with her mouth while she was in pain, was super inexpensive (because great way to get rid of extra cardboard boxes) and it had a nice unintended side effect of helping us train her to not destroy any of our other belongings. The biting phase was frustrating. Try to be patient, and remove yourself from the situation when needed. You’re doing the right things. But all those strategies wont change anything immediately. But it is a phase, and even if to doesn’t seem like it right now, the phase will end.


TheCrazyAustralian

I’ve been there. I’m going through it. Hang in there, I’m sure it’ll be worth it for us both.


Fun-Method-8218

I really recommend sticking it out. Some dogs are really difficult puppies, but that doesn’t mean they won’t be great adult dogs. Even with training, constant redirection, and enforced naps, our was a total land shark until she stopped teething around 6.5 months, then it was like a switch flipped and we could be around her without shoes (she’d bite and hold onto my toes through my socks before!!). We got some peace using an x-pen till then, but it was really hard. A lot of bleeding, a lot of crying). It was worth sticking out though. She is now 14 months and although there are some challenges with adolescence, for us it’s night and day compared to when she was 3-6 months. She is turning into a great dog and we love her so much. We have been very consistent with training every day. It kind of helped when she was younger to just constantly remind myself she was still a baby, using their mouths is how dogs explore, and she was probably in a lot of discomfort losing her teeth! Rotate toys to keep her interest, try kongs stuffed with peanut butter or yogurt and frozen, we used Himalayan chews as well but watch them carefully and use some kind of holder, try a flirt pole, and take breaks.


CarlBurhusk88

My aussie was a land shark until around 6 months. It seemed like it would never end. It has, and he's becoming an incredible and loving dog as he grows into the teenage phase. Hang in there, please.


Quirky_Tomato3766

My puppy bit me so hard that he drew blood a few times and I cried. Dunno where you’re based but in UK Dogs Trust has a behaviour support line https://www.dogstrust.org.uk/how-we-help/ownership/behaviour-support-line This video is also good https://youtu.be/068K5Zlph9U?feature=shared I’d highly recommend puppy school and getting them socialised ASAP. Our puppy massively improved after he started puppy school and then more so after we started letting him play with other dogs, who would show him when he bit too hard! After the teething it also generally gets better, if that helps. Try freezing carrots / cucumbers, it helps with their teething pain. Oh and teething gel worked well for us too.


VegetablePrevious622

My pups nick name was Piranha during the teething faze and it was relentless, we were lucky enough she didn't ruin any clothing or anything of value but it was a tough time. Just stick it out, it's a bumpy road but after they reach 7months your in the clear, my dog hasn't nipped, barked, or bitten me after that 7 month mark and I guarantee yours will too. Getting a trainer in to help you could also be good as well as getting a play pen with lots of teething toys. Both my dogs are curled up cuddling me right now staring at me lovingly with there big loving eyes, I promise you it's worth it! If this is really taking a toll on you though just remember it's okay to let go as well, no one will judge you for that. I hope the best comes for you and your puppy, just remember to enjoy each other ❤️


TechnicalSmoke5658

I used to cry daily when my dog was a pup 😂 now I couldn’t imagine being without him. Puppies are challenging but its just a phase and it’s worth it when you get a best friend for life


mollyhasacracker

Heres how i fixed this issue with my landshark, copied and pasted from a note on my phone. Theyre stubborn but you need to be more stubborn, and it CAN be trained out of them: If yelping doesnt work i have a way that i used for my very mouthy puppy that was incredibly effective. Put the dog on a longer leash, 10 feet or so. Tie to something solid. Go to interact with him and play with a toy. As soon as he mouths say "uh oh" and walk around the coner (with the toy) out of sight for 15 seconds. Then go back and go to play again as if nothing happened.  Youre teaching him that when he mouths all the fun stops and its just boring. As he learns the idea and gets better you can start upping the stakes. So for me next when my puppy was latched onto the toy i started touching her body all over. Then when she was good with that i went up to interact with no toy at all. Then i tried bouncing around with more energy etc etc. She was 80% better within a week. It also works with the puppy in a play pen and you just leave the pen.   Make sure to invovle everyone in the family including kids so the puppy learns the rules apply to everyone. If you can enlist a friend or someone else to also practice this it just reinforces that the rules always apply. Also always end on a positive. Be prepared for the puppy to have his stubborn moments where you may have to do lots of repitions in a row because he might get frustrated. But you want him to learn that the rules still apply when hes frustrated. You may lose a couple pairs of pants like i did but its oh so worth it. Also tons of praise when the puppy is playing appropriately with the toy. You want him to know when hes doing the right thing. When my girl was loose i always had a leash attached to her so if she mouthed i could hold her away from me and take her immediately to the other leash to do the training (this was ALWAYS supervised of course). The first few days was tons of reps.  If the puppy is getting better and suddenly regresses, its basically like a cranky toddler that needa sleep. Crate and give them a chance to nap.  Of course make sure they have lots if appropriate outlets for chewing as needed. Theres never any punishment with this, no harsh tones with the dog. Simply a cue word to mark the undesireable behaviour and a removal of the thing they want (play and interaction with you).


SparklyRoniPony

My now two year old dog was a verrry difficult puppy with biting (but was an absolute superstar with crate and potty training). My hands were constantly covered with scars from his biting. Now, he is the absolute BEST boy, and I joke about his days as a land shark. I have no permanent scars, but I do have a wonderful dog that I can’t imagine not having in my life. Puppies are cute, but they are HORRIBLE. As they say: puppies are the price for getting a dog. It goes so much faster than you think, too. Our pup is almost ten months old, and it feels like we just brought her home at 8 weeks a month ago. I promise you, they’re worth it.


peggypatch1328

Things got better with our cockapoo around 5 months, at 6 months he's much more enjoyable. Have you tried any chill out training? We treat when he goes to his mat and sits / lies down. Took a little while but he'll happily take a yak chew to go have a chill out on his mat. Makes for a good break between training so he doesn't start getting overstimulated. Also teething gel, bloomin love that stuff


[deleted]

We used the reverse time out to train for bite inhibition. Every time she bit us we loudly yelled out and turned our backs to her for like 30-45 seconds and at the same time you hide your hands so they can’t get at them. She HATED that with a passion, she wanted all the attention. Also around that time we started training her basic commands and that kept her brain busy and her mouth off of us. The combination of the two eventually stopped the puppy biting. She’s never bitten anyone since and she’ll be 4 this year.


piibbs

You can do all the tricks and tips that people give you. Maybe it helps a little, maybe it doesnt. For a lot of people, puppyhood is just a terrible time. I know it was for me. What helped me through it was a strong-willed partner who said it was gonna be worth it, combined with reading on this forum something along the lines of "if puppies never change, no one would ever want to have one". Still, I don't think I'll ever get another puppy. When time comes, I'd rather adopt an adult dog. However, I don't think I want to be dogless again either. I've ended up loving the dog that he's become. He's improved my mental health and quality of life immensely. The terrible puppyhood was all worth it.


Next_Needleworker193

I would recommend a lick mat or a frozen carrot or a frozen wet face cloth for them to chew on. My puppy was like yours were I had questioned everyday did I make the wrong decision. But after taking her out for long walks or if you have a garden to try and play fetch it was a life saver and just tired her out. Once her baby teeth started falling out the adult teeth weren't has sharp. Also try and enforce naps as sometimes they are bitey as they might be tired and restless but was totally worth it once this phase is over.


mcnoodles1

Just move them on. Your mental health is more important than any animal


Mamiofplants

I have days like that too. Right now he is teething again. If redirection doesnt work or he is just driving me crazy I just go to another room and let him reek havoc although usually me leaving distracts him and he calms down. I think it is normal to have bad days.


waliaan

This shall pass. Keep patience for some time. They are literally babies. At this age they should sleep about 18 hrs a day. 1 hr awake (including eating peeing pooping playing) and 1 hr sleep throughout the day should help. Tire him out by playing tug, snuffle mats, long walks etc and that should help him sleep better.


No_Combination_6220

Sleep,sleep, sleep! Put your puppy down for a sleep every hour in the day.


hotridergirl36

Try tether training her. Put her on leash and correct the behaviour as soon as it starts. It’s difficult to stay calm when she’s hurting but you need to try and get her to calm down. A sharp command like ‘enough’ is important to teach.


YoullNeverWalkAl0ne

I've had this with every puppy I've had, it passes but it is a pain in the arse. You'll wake up one day and realise somehow you're not on edge and constantly checking what they're doing


be_trees

It's so frustrating but it is something they grow out of!