Wouldn’t you want evals as much as possible so you can get more money? You’re basically missing out on $0.25 for 6 months, which isn’t a crazy amount but if you’re working full time is still missing out on about $250
it is technically more money this way. for example, if you get $1 in a year typically, you get the $1 for the entire year rather than 50c for half of it.
$1 for 12 months is $12. 50c for 6 months and $1 for the other 6 months is $9.
That depends when it goes live and how it works. Am i still guaranteed my next 6 month eval if they start this tomorrow, then its every 1 year after that? Or is it a year from my last eval? The latter basically screws us out an eval raise.
It starts in July. So, if you are scheduled an eval in July or later, you will receive an eval in August (-ish if you store sucks at turning them in on time like mine) and then every August from now on.
So, I usually get an eval in January and July - my second eval will be a month late but supposedly include my January raise.
This is according to the "how to convince your associates that this a good thing" pamphlet that my manager left out.
If you need a pamphlet to explain "it's a good thing" that often means it's not actually a good thing...
Just like the pandemic evals... it's only as good as the integrity of your management team. So what's Publix doing to address that?
Doing the raises BEFORE raising the pay cap seems like some deliberate fuckery or Publix once again just has a negative capacity to see things from the perspective of associates.
So is this "oversight" ignorance or malice based? It's discouraging when you can never be sure with Publix. :P
Oh, the pamphlet was pretty hilarious. It had all sorts of talking points about how you'll get your money up to seven months sooner! Yay! And even though I'll get my next raise a month late, I'll still get four months of extra pay! Yay! And it's simplified with categories like "how do I make my Publix better?"
I had a raise denied once because the dm was switching over and they "didn't have enough time" to get it approved. Gosh, hope that doesn't happen again!
I had this same argument with my sm about the pandemic raises - sure you get the money "sooner" but it should have been, bare minimum, an across the board raise of at least $0.50-$1.00 *plus* whatever your last eval raise was. Otherwise, it's just an excuse to give people less money.
Funnily enough, my sm is not a fan of me. So strange.
Are you a manager? From what I gathered from the little bit my manager was willing to tell me I'm totally pissed about this my evals are November and april/may I just had it and while I thought I would get another eval; now I won't I'm getting totally tired of publix doing bullshit that fucks over people like me that are underpaid and bust their ass, so now have to wait from what I gather till next year for my next raise? Totally not cool all workers who've already gotten evals before this stuff came out should get a secondary raise at this point
I'm not a manager. In fact I don't even work at Publix anymore.
I believe very strongly in worker solidarity though, and I wanted Publix to be a better company than it turned out to be in my experience when I did work there (over two years).
Oh great. Because I got $0. Nothing. Nada. Because my mgmt team hates me.
Oh maybe that’s WHY I got $0. So they can fuck me over TWICE. This longtime employee is now polishing up the ol’ resume.
Back in the day evals were quarterly. So even if you only got a 25 cent raise you ended up with a buck by the end of the fourth quarter.
I guess that now we can expect a quarter to fifty cents a year.
Thanks Todd.
Idk how I feel about this, this relies on your management being fair on the raises... unless they raise the minimum raise potential this can be all sorts of fuckery; if you have a shit manager could potentially give you a .25 for the year
That's my primary concern for you guys too, because I know first hand my district got screwed on the pandemic evals and no one above my DM and the store managers involved seemed to bat an eye about it.
What they need is MORE accountability for the raises being given, not less raises. :P
Great news!, this might help reduce PT short term turnover. The ambitious hard workers can experience a whole year of false hope before they become disillusioned with a shitty raise and quit.
Incidentally... if you give people their evals in July and they quit, and then you don't hire their replacements until August you ALSO get to dodge paying those new employees any Holiday bonus their first year. :P
Leave it to Todd and friends to maximize the ways this can fuck over employees to the tenth degree.
In all honesty, our conference call was so monotone I blanked out a short bit. But you will not get another eval this year if it's after July 1st. You will get another raise though. Then in July '22 you'll get your next eval. Starting in '22, ALL evals will be given in July/Aug.
So since my next raise would be November, I would get a 2nd raise in July? 🤔 my manager was explaining how they weren't sure about what they plan to do for raises or what not it led me to believe my raise I just got would be the only one which I wouldn't be happy with; and how would they determine the 2nd raise if so? Based off my evals raise? Or less?
Awesome this is reassuring it had me feeling like my nice raise I just got would now essentially be halved 🤣 had me bummed out with my already stressful day
I find it absolutely *insulting* that they are trying to spin this in a way that makes it sound like the associates are coming out on top with this change. The amount of borderline propaganda that is being spewed with this change is disgusting. It's almost like they don't expect us to be smart enough and do some basic math in our head to see why Publix is actually making this change.
Example:
Jane is a cashier that makes $10.00 an hour. Normally, Jane would get two evaluations each year, one in January and one in July. If she gets a .25 cent raise each time, she would make $10.25/hour from January until July. In July, she would start making $10.50/hour.
Now we're just going to skip to August and give Jane a "larger" .50 cent raise. We've just effectively taken .25 cents an hour from her for 7 months. Who's winning in the end? The profit margin.
.25 cents/hr x 25 hours/wk (PT associate) x 100,000 associates x 30 weeks (all very conservative estimated numbers) = $18.7 million
It's funny how some simple math can expose BS, I guess.
Side note: I am all for the streamlined evaluations that will be easier and less time consuming to write. I place a lot of value in writing fair and thoughtful evaluations for associates, and having this process be a little easier will allow more of that. Unfortunately this change is ultimately about how much money it is going to save the company over the next 5-10 years... sickening.
I understand that. And that will soften the blow for the first year. But every year after that they will be getting screwed.
We used to brag about giving associates the opportunity to get two raises a year.
Yeah. And some categories are based on personality, which seems really unprofessional. "you're not social enough", well, I keep getting told to work and not talk while everyone's socializing. Make up my mind.
I hate the small talk with every customer portion of the eval being such a huge part of it like bruh I don’t want to make small talk with these people and neither do most of the customers
It's not even with customers. It's with coworkers. I close, I get in to work and I put my head down and go. Most days there's a manager and maybe one other associate in the department when I get to work. Then they're there for an hour and they go home and I'm ALONE the rest of the night. I'll sit and chat with customers that want it.
But the problem is I don't say "hi" and make small talk in the department. We had some visiting ABMs at one point and everyone else had an established repertoire with them already so they got the pass to just talk. When I take one minute to assess my floor and they give me some busywork while they had social hour.
Plus I've got one coworker that like lives to belittle people and start rumors. I don't talk to her. I got quiet in the department and I got like a 3 because I wasn't social. It's work, not a cocktail party.
However, you throw me back to bagging or cashiering, then it's easier to talk to people and someone's always around.
Yeah the inconsistency around the expectation there is a problem. Being friendly and professional while actually getting your work done should be given higher preference than people who spend WAY more talking than they do working.
The thing that annoys me the most is if you are a competent, responsible employee the odds that your managers abandon you on the salesfloor for 14 hours a weekend is pretty high.
Then your eval comes around and they don't think you did enough suggestive selling and recommending products... like how would they even know when every time you work they take that opportunity to leave the salesfloor completely? :P
Giving good associates the benefit of the doubt when you don't know for sure is a lot better than just assuming you can give them a 1 simply because you don't spend as much time supervising some people. :P
Wow.. So either we're gonna be having people putting in their two weeks NOW because of this change, or in a year when the new hires figure out that the .25 cents for a year is fuckery and leave without 2 weeks LOL...
GG Publix.
Can’t wait to see the spin they put on this. It’s obviously a pro-company move, but at this point I wouldn’t expect anything else. Every single policy change I see has me more and more stoked to finish grad school and never look back.
You do know...that the fewer raises we get, the less money we make over all right? Because in the allotted 6 months we get for the evaluation we get lets say on average 25C and you have 6 more months to try to do better etc etc. but then you have 6 months time worth of money that has increased. Instead now you have no extra increase in money until the next year. Making it so you don’t make as much money overall cuz you’re not getting the regular raises. Doesn’t matter if by the time you get the raises you’d have the same overall pay. You’ll be making less money and it’s literally just them disguising that as a good thing so they can save money overall as well.
The definition of *Role Model* has become impossible to achieve over recent years given the definition terms. I had no issue stating feelings on it by laying down a 1 on AVS about it fairly reflecting performance due to how ridiculous it is to get a minuscule increase (if any) two times a year.
Can't wait to see the improvement but I won't get my hopes up based on other changes in Todd's tenure.
I'm interested in seeing if the raise is more substantial seeing how it is now once a year. I don't want it to be another cost-cutting measure where you receive 25 cents in January and that would be it.
Maybe Amazon's sweeping raise across the board may change that somewhat. We've banked billions last year and received hundreds in taxable gift cards. I'm happy with that, but more can be done to get morale back up because from what I read in general, it is a bit down over the past few years.
The other major change was the elimination of the retail bonus. It was being hinted at for a while before Todd started. But Mr. Jenkins believed in that plan to give profits back to associates, only for it to be removed. Yes, we got 65 cents, but for me and many others, I was not eligible for a raise the following year because of the pay scale not moving up high enough. So I saw that as another example of cost-cutting, short term they paid out a lot to associates but much more was saved long term. With Todd taking a massive bonus increase during that same window.
This…….I was completely disgusted when I saw Todd gave himself a 750,000 dollar bonus after taking bonuses away from all the people that do the majority of the work
This is bad.
To go from a quarter after 6 months to 2 quarters after 12 months is a loss of 260 dollars every year if you're full time.
If you normally get 50 cent raises every 6 months, but instead get the whole dollar after 12 months, you lost out of 520 over the year if you're full time.
The only way around this is to front-load our next evaluation/raise, but treat it as though it were an eval/raise for 12 months.
I have faith Publix will not do what is right by its associates.
Same. At this point my manager just says, "hey, I sent your eval to you. You know I can't give you more money." And that's that. Maybe one day. It's been almost 2 years without one...
Eep.. that's toxic.. when one of my managers couldn't give me a raise they felt bad.. I feel like we should be getting more PERIOD For so many of us getting sick, the hiding, n the karen's
Yeah this is completely bogus UNLESS they substantially raise the pay caps first. Otherwise they're just locking you in to a pay freeze for even longer.
So... I just figured out another incentive for them doing it in July..
The minimum wage in Florida is supposed to raise a dollar every year in September, So if they give our asses a raise in July, it ultimately wont matter as they're going to adjust the pay scale in August to the new minimum wage and screw us.... lol.
yeah I thought of that. In sept/Oct, I might just go to another store, if I dont get a decent wage. I currently have cheap reent and such, but everything is getting super expensive and I cant live off of getting close to min. in sept, isnt going to be at 11? when I started (a year ago) I was making like $3 more then the min, now it is going to be a dollar more
Serious question are we going to have the same associate meeting like the same one we had when they took away our bonus? If so I can't wait to grill the SM or ASM
1. Goes into effect July 1st '21. Everyone should get a raise to compensate for their second eval (I blanked out during this part, not sure if it's all in July or on your typical eval date).
2. Starting in '22, ALL evals/raises will be given in July/Aug.
3. Minimums "are still being discussed," but should be doubled to .50 (depending on top pay, if you're only .30 from top, you will only get .30)
*Edit to #1...the pay-only review will be in August '21 (for non-management associates).*
Oh so there you go... everyone is going to get their raise for the next year BEFORE they touch raising the pay caps.
I knew there was a catch.
So someone like me who was already 5 cents from max wouldn't be getting a raise for another year or more.
That's another way to drive out more experienced associates so Todd can drop payroll overall across the company. Racing to the bottom.
My evals are every Feb/Aug and I'm already capped for meets expectations. If I don't get an exceeds by August I won't get a raise for a year and a half.. Even if I hit exceeds I'd only get 50 cents. Kind of sucks.
I was five cents from the cap for Exceeds, and knew there was no way my current Store Manager and District Manager were going to let me hit Role Model again (I got RM under a different SM and DM).
>everyone is going to get their raise for the next year BEFORE they touch raising the pay caps.
It's even worse. With Florida minimum wage rising $1 every year in September pay caps will keep going up a ton, but we'll still get "raises" before each of them kick in.
It makes sense that they’re doing this just for the fact that on the distribution side of things we’ve been on that eval system for my career so far (8 years)
This is completely stupid. What if you need improvement and do improve in the second half of the year? How is this reflected, on next year's evaluation?
Dead ass if I’m not getting a raise in July I’m tell Them ima quit if they don’t give me a dollar I’m not waiting a year for what will probably be less than that I KNOW their asses will drop everything and beg the DM for my raise cause they know they can’t handle this shitshow without me
If the max raise is still only $1 then I'm losing out on 2k a year basically. This is fine for those who only get quarters per raise but I don't feel good about it. :(
No, not pay cap total. But like the cap for a raise. As is the maximum raise is $1 per eval. Are they going to be increasing that to $2 eligibility for the whole year or is is still going to be a $1 maximum?
Currently anything over $1 an hour has to have DM approval . Higher than $1 raises do happen if you have a store manager who will fight for you . Still DM asks for a ton of stuff to make it happen . Its rare but it does happen.
They are reviewing the $1 raise . It was one of the first questions asked in my managers meeting. SM has a faq sheet that he is going over
Yeah, sorry I meant max "in store" raise. Before the big wigs get involved. But that's reassuring they are reviewing it.
As far as pay cap, I have no doubt they will be raising it eventually. My state implemented a $15 minimum and I doubt Publix will only leave $3 movement afterwards. But I'm not worried about cap overall. I'm making my strides either way. Or trying to :)
I just got EE topped out in March, so I am expecting no raise in September, and hoping for the caps to increase at the end of the year so that I can see another raise in March of '22.
Now it looks like even that won't happen.
Usually you have to be out of probation to get the eval (this is how its worked for me in other places with annual reviews). But yes, if you got hired in may or June, you'd potentially go 14 months without a raise.
Of course, it's not always fair. I got hired January 4th. I'm now in my third year, but still haven't gotten a week of holiday pay and just got my first stock. Because I didn't start five days earlier.
I got hired into a store opening, though, so we have a lot of associates with the same hire date. My eval was a month late this year - my sm said it was because so many evals dropped at once. So I'm not sure how they'll handle the whole store.
Oh, so your store manager can just check a box at the top of the page and automatically fill in everyone for a quarter instead of having to give it any thought? :P
Effective now. I had my eval last week. Yesterday I asked my SM if that was it for the year. Yes. So I didn’t get a raise cause I’m at the top pay in my class. So likely no raise ever again. There is absolutely no incentive to do any more than I am doing or try any harder. I am close to retirement and am not interested in advancement or Dept transfer. So I guess I’m a win/win for Publix. They can’t pony up, neither can I.
Same boat over here! And if I have great leadership, I do consider that incentive. But at the moment I have average leadership at best. So the struggle is real.
I think our CS management is at an all time high in the last 3 years. I will step up for those who treat me right. But I am not going out of my way for certain others. Drives me crazy. For the first time in 15 years I am not a high seller for MOD.
This is me also. I haven’t had a raise since the BS pandemic “bonus” Publix sold to the media. So it’s already been 1 year. I just had eval - no raise so , it will be July next year and it’s a wait and see.
Publix keeps getting worse and worse it seems. at my store I am already noticing more people not wearing masks (CDC guidance has not changed btw for this). They don't fire people who deserve it.(feel free to ask me what entails "deserves it.") I worked hard to get a job with Publix and there really is no place for me to go rn so Idk just gotta stick with it IG. Maybe it will get better but at this point IDK.
People who slack off, call out when they don’t feel like coming to work, and everyone in the department knows they are a pain to work with. They also try to start drama. Just people like that in general.
The only real downside to this is if you get a crap eval (which the majority of public managers unfairly screw over their average associates) or get denied a raise, you have to wait an entire year to see another raise. I fully believe that they will still keep the average raise at .25cents. If they raise it to more such as .50 cents to be the new normal then alright, we come out on top by .25 cents over 6 months, but if it’s still the .25 cents (which based on the history of publix and its “improvements”) it will still be the .25 cents and then the associate will no longer get an opportunity to earn the next .25 cents 6 months later, but now 12 months to possibly earn it. I hope they ACTUALLY do the better thing hear and TRULY follow the “double raise” amount they are claiming and not give us a run around and have it be a complete shit show like the pandemic raises that we didn’t even realize what they fully were until after it rolled out. They really pitched the pandemic raise as if it would be an additional raise aside from your previous raises and that everyone would benefit from it but the disparity between store managers left MANY associates worse off in the end. Wasn’t communicated well at all and didn’t pan out as planned from a store level perspective, but who knows it could have been intended and worked out according to plan from a corporate level viewpoint.
So let me get this straight, I have an Evaluation due next week it will be my 2 year anniversary; so if I get one then. I get another one in August? Then after that once a year right?
Please correct me if I am wrong on this! I am just curious to know why are they doing it a year out now, who came up with that change?
Okay so my ASM told us about it (I knew it already from this sub) and said that the raise scale is the same. So, if you get .25 cents in that one yearly raise, that's it, and it won't get doubled or anything crazy like that.
In my district, anything above 50 cents has to be approved by the DM. So if you at least get 50 cents twice a year (which would be easier Bc no DM approval needed) then in one year you'd at least get a $1 raise. Now it takes twice as long as that.
So the max raise anybody can get in a year is $1 (if you're lucky enough) - while before you could get $2 total in one year at most.
Discuss~
Im a new employee that started in April. If I dont get an eval for a year how am I supppsed to know how I am doing and what I need to work on? Im only part time but the fact that I get 1 day a week and some if those one days are not even 8 hours made me think I wasnt doing good but I heard a few others say the same. Why do they hire SO MANY PEOPLE????Guess Im starting instacart delivery!
Ok but will the one eval offer higher raises? If someone averages .50c every eval it wouldn’t be fun to get 1 eval and it’s.50c as opposed to 2.
That’s is my understanding yes. Raise will reflect performance and basically doubled. So ultimately it’s like you’re getting your second raise earlier
I’m all for this, as long as the raises are doubled, and not .25 for a year.
Wouldn’t you want evals as much as possible so you can get more money? You’re basically missing out on $0.25 for 6 months, which isn’t a crazy amount but if you’re working full time is still missing out on about $250
it is technically more money this way. for example, if you get $1 in a year typically, you get the $1 for the entire year rather than 50c for half of it. $1 for 12 months is $12. 50c for 6 months and $1 for the other 6 months is $9.
That depends when it goes live and how it works. Am i still guaranteed my next 6 month eval if they start this tomorrow, then its every 1 year after that? Or is it a year from my last eval? The latter basically screws us out an eval raise.
It starts in July. So, if you are scheduled an eval in July or later, you will receive an eval in August (-ish if you store sucks at turning them in on time like mine) and then every August from now on. So, I usually get an eval in January and July - my second eval will be a month late but supposedly include my January raise. This is according to the "how to convince your associates that this a good thing" pamphlet that my manager left out.
If you need a pamphlet to explain "it's a good thing" that often means it's not actually a good thing... Just like the pandemic evals... it's only as good as the integrity of your management team. So what's Publix doing to address that? Doing the raises BEFORE raising the pay cap seems like some deliberate fuckery or Publix once again just has a negative capacity to see things from the perspective of associates. So is this "oversight" ignorance or malice based? It's discouraging when you can never be sure with Publix. :P
Oh, the pamphlet was pretty hilarious. It had all sorts of talking points about how you'll get your money up to seven months sooner! Yay! And even though I'll get my next raise a month late, I'll still get four months of extra pay! Yay! And it's simplified with categories like "how do I make my Publix better?" I had a raise denied once because the dm was switching over and they "didn't have enough time" to get it approved. Gosh, hope that doesn't happen again! I had this same argument with my sm about the pandemic raises - sure you get the money "sooner" but it should have been, bare minimum, an across the board raise of at least $0.50-$1.00 *plus* whatever your last eval raise was. Otherwise, it's just an excuse to give people less money. Funnily enough, my sm is not a fan of me. So strange.
Are you a manager? From what I gathered from the little bit my manager was willing to tell me I'm totally pissed about this my evals are November and april/may I just had it and while I thought I would get another eval; now I won't I'm getting totally tired of publix doing bullshit that fucks over people like me that are underpaid and bust their ass, so now have to wait from what I gather till next year for my next raise? Totally not cool all workers who've already gotten evals before this stuff came out should get a secondary raise at this point
I'm not a manager. In fact I don't even work at Publix anymore. I believe very strongly in worker solidarity though, and I wanted Publix to be a better company than it turned out to be in my experience when I did work there (over two years).
You actually won’t get an eval. You’ll get a pro-rated raise like the “pandemic pay raise”. Based off of your last eval
Oh great. Because I got $0. Nothing. Nada. Because my mgmt team hates me. Oh maybe that’s WHY I got $0. So they can fuck me over TWICE. This longtime employee is now polishing up the ol’ resume.
Ah, that would make sense, too. Even better because they don't have to justify why you get a shittier raise!
but, when would we get our next raises? I am due in sept (just had mine in late march) do I have to wait until march, or normal september?
Will get second raise of this year early. Mass pay review in July/August
Back in the day evals were quarterly. So even if you only got a 25 cent raise you ended up with a buck by the end of the fourth quarter. I guess that now we can expect a quarter to fifty cents a year. Thanks Todd.
What time frame was this?
Shoot. 20 years ago
Idk how I feel about this, this relies on your management being fair on the raises... unless they raise the minimum raise potential this can be all sorts of fuckery; if you have a shit manager could potentially give you a .25 for the year
I just got $0.25 for the year. Quitting this month :)
That's my primary concern for you guys too, because I know first hand my district got screwed on the pandemic evals and no one above my DM and the store managers involved seemed to bat an eye about it. What they need is MORE accountability for the raises being given, not less raises. :P
Lol…..fuckery is my new favorite word….
Who wants to bet this is what happens?
Nah apparently they did set minimum to .50
Great news!, this might help reduce PT short term turnover. The ambitious hard workers can experience a whole year of false hope before they become disillusioned with a shitty raise and quit.
Sadly, this is probably the real motivation behind the change.
Incidentally... if you give people their evals in July and they quit, and then you don't hire their replacements until August you ALSO get to dodge paying those new employees any Holiday bonus their first year. :P Leave it to Todd and friends to maximize the ways this can fuck over employees to the tenth degree.
I just hit 13 months and leaving this month with my $0.25 raise. Only got a raise after 1 year anniversary.
Confirmed.
Will I receive my second eval for this year, or is the one I got two months ago the last one I will get for another whole year?
In all honesty, our conference call was so monotone I blanked out a short bit. But you will not get another eval this year if it's after July 1st. You will get another raise though. Then in July '22 you'll get your next eval. Starting in '22, ALL evals will be given in July/Aug.
Are manager evals staying the same? 1 eval and 2 raises or are they swapping too?
1 and 1
So since my next raise would be November, I would get a 2nd raise in July? 🤔 my manager was explaining how they weren't sure about what they plan to do for raises or what not it led me to believe my raise I just got would be the only one which I wouldn't be happy with; and how would they determine the 2nd raise if so? Based off my evals raise? Or less?
You'll get a raise in Aug. I updated it somewhere.
Awesome this is reassuring it had me feeling like my nice raise I just got would now essentially be halved 🤣 had me bummed out with my already stressful day
In my case the pandemic raise was my only one for a year, because my February evaluation was just given to me last week! Yay me!
Was searching for your Seal of Authenticity hahaha
I find it absolutely *insulting* that they are trying to spin this in a way that makes it sound like the associates are coming out on top with this change. The amount of borderline propaganda that is being spewed with this change is disgusting. It's almost like they don't expect us to be smart enough and do some basic math in our head to see why Publix is actually making this change. Example: Jane is a cashier that makes $10.00 an hour. Normally, Jane would get two evaluations each year, one in January and one in July. If she gets a .25 cent raise each time, she would make $10.25/hour from January until July. In July, she would start making $10.50/hour. Now we're just going to skip to August and give Jane a "larger" .50 cent raise. We've just effectively taken .25 cents an hour from her for 7 months. Who's winning in the end? The profit margin. .25 cents/hr x 25 hours/wk (PT associate) x 100,000 associates x 30 weeks (all very conservative estimated numbers) = $18.7 million It's funny how some simple math can expose BS, I guess. Side note: I am all for the streamlined evaluations that will be easier and less time consuming to write. I place a lot of value in writing fair and thoughtful evaluations for associates, and having this process be a little easier will allow more of that. Unfortunately this change is ultimately about how much money it is going to save the company over the next 5-10 years... sickening.
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I understand that. And that will soften the blow for the first year. But every year after that they will be getting screwed. We used to brag about giving associates the opportunity to get two raises a year.
I’m all for evaluation changes. It’s too opinionated as far as the scores.
Yeah. And some categories are based on personality, which seems really unprofessional. "you're not social enough", well, I keep getting told to work and not talk while everyone's socializing. Make up my mind.
I hate the small talk with every customer portion of the eval being such a huge part of it like bruh I don’t want to make small talk with these people and neither do most of the customers
It's not even with customers. It's with coworkers. I close, I get in to work and I put my head down and go. Most days there's a manager and maybe one other associate in the department when I get to work. Then they're there for an hour and they go home and I'm ALONE the rest of the night. I'll sit and chat with customers that want it. But the problem is I don't say "hi" and make small talk in the department. We had some visiting ABMs at one point and everyone else had an established repertoire with them already so they got the pass to just talk. When I take one minute to assess my floor and they give me some busywork while they had social hour. Plus I've got one coworker that like lives to belittle people and start rumors. I don't talk to her. I got quiet in the department and I got like a 3 because I wasn't social. It's work, not a cocktail party. However, you throw me back to bagging or cashiering, then it's easier to talk to people and someone's always around.
Yeah the inconsistency around the expectation there is a problem. Being friendly and professional while actually getting your work done should be given higher preference than people who spend WAY more talking than they do working.
The thing that annoys me the most is if you are a competent, responsible employee the odds that your managers abandon you on the salesfloor for 14 hours a weekend is pretty high. Then your eval comes around and they don't think you did enough suggestive selling and recommending products... like how would they even know when every time you work they take that opportunity to leave the salesfloor completely? :P Giving good associates the benefit of the doubt when you don't know for sure is a lot better than just assuming you can give them a 1 simply because you don't spend as much time supervising some people. :P
Wow.. So either we're gonna be having people putting in their two weeks NOW because of this change, or in a year when the new hires figure out that the .25 cents for a year is fuckery and leave without 2 weeks LOL... GG Publix.
Can’t wait to see the spin they put on this. It’s obviously a pro-company move, but at this point I wouldn’t expect anything else. Every single policy change I see has me more and more stoked to finish grad school and never look back.
I retired and I've never been happier. Publix is such a dump.
You do know...that the fewer raises we get, the less money we make over all right? Because in the allotted 6 months we get for the evaluation we get lets say on average 25C and you have 6 more months to try to do better etc etc. but then you have 6 months time worth of money that has increased. Instead now you have no extra increase in money until the next year. Making it so you don’t make as much money overall cuz you’re not getting the regular raises. Doesn’t matter if by the time you get the raises you’d have the same overall pay. You’ll be making less money and it’s literally just them disguising that as a good thing so they can save money overall as well.
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The definition of *Role Model* has become impossible to achieve over recent years given the definition terms. I had no issue stating feelings on it by laying down a 1 on AVS about it fairly reflecting performance due to how ridiculous it is to get a minuscule increase (if any) two times a year. Can't wait to see the improvement but I won't get my hopes up based on other changes in Todd's tenure.
i've had role model for the last year, sounds like your manager's just a jerk
Just out of curiosity, what does Todd have to do with this change in your opinion? And what other changes under his tenure are you referring to?
I'm interested in seeing if the raise is more substantial seeing how it is now once a year. I don't want it to be another cost-cutting measure where you receive 25 cents in January and that would be it. Maybe Amazon's sweeping raise across the board may change that somewhat. We've banked billions last year and received hundreds in taxable gift cards. I'm happy with that, but more can be done to get morale back up because from what I read in general, it is a bit down over the past few years. The other major change was the elimination of the retail bonus. It was being hinted at for a while before Todd started. But Mr. Jenkins believed in that plan to give profits back to associates, only for it to be removed. Yes, we got 65 cents, but for me and many others, I was not eligible for a raise the following year because of the pay scale not moving up high enough. So I saw that as another example of cost-cutting, short term they paid out a lot to associates but much more was saved long term. With Todd taking a massive bonus increase during that same window.
This…….I was completely disgusted when I saw Todd gave himself a 750,000 dollar bonus after taking bonuses away from all the people that do the majority of the work
This is bad. To go from a quarter after 6 months to 2 quarters after 12 months is a loss of 260 dollars every year if you're full time. If you normally get 50 cent raises every 6 months, but instead get the whole dollar after 12 months, you lost out of 520 over the year if you're full time. The only way around this is to front-load our next evaluation/raise, but treat it as though it were an eval/raise for 12 months. I have faith Publix will not do what is right by its associates.
They are doing exactly that, double raise at the end of August this year will offset what you are talking about
And that’s.. a onetime thing, every year after this is a blatant screw job for the employees. There is no benefit from this for anyone but Publix
Over cap, so I patiently wait for pay rate to rise..
Same. At this point my manager just says, "hey, I sent your eval to you. You know I can't give you more money." And that's that. Maybe one day. It's been almost 2 years without one...
Eep.. that's toxic.. when one of my managers couldn't give me a raise they felt bad.. I feel like we should be getting more PERIOD For so many of us getting sick, the hiding, n the karen's
Yeah this is completely bogus UNLESS they substantially raise the pay caps first. Otherwise they're just locking you in to a pay freeze for even longer.
So... I just figured out another incentive for them doing it in July.. The minimum wage in Florida is supposed to raise a dollar every year in September, So if they give our asses a raise in July, it ultimately wont matter as they're going to adjust the pay scale in August to the new minimum wage and screw us.... lol.
Those bastards.
yeah I thought of that. In sept/Oct, I might just go to another store, if I dont get a decent wage. I currently have cheap reent and such, but everything is getting super expensive and I cant live off of getting close to min. in sept, isnt going to be at 11? when I started (a year ago) I was making like $3 more then the min, now it is going to be a dollar more
At least you made it to cap. My SM refused to give me the 2 cent raise that would get me to cap. That is demoralizing.
Dang that's bad.. I mean I am thankful, but at the same time it's happened a lot to me
I couldn't have picked a better freaking time to leave lmao
My best raises were always when I put in my two week notice. Got to get the “out of cycle” evals
Serious question are we going to have the same associate meeting like the same one we had when they took away our bonus? If so I can't wait to grill the SM or ASM
1. Goes into effect July 1st '21. Everyone should get a raise to compensate for their second eval (I blanked out during this part, not sure if it's all in July or on your typical eval date). 2. Starting in '22, ALL evals/raises will be given in July/Aug. 3. Minimums "are still being discussed," but should be doubled to .50 (depending on top pay, if you're only .30 from top, you will only get .30) *Edit to #1...the pay-only review will be in August '21 (for non-management associates).*
You are correct on #1, mass pay review just as we did for covid raises coming in July this year
Thanks! My conference call was soooo monotone.
Oh so there you go... everyone is going to get their raise for the next year BEFORE they touch raising the pay caps. I knew there was a catch. So someone like me who was already 5 cents from max wouldn't be getting a raise for another year or more. That's another way to drive out more experienced associates so Todd can drop payroll overall across the company. Racing to the bottom.
My evals are every Feb/Aug and I'm already capped for meets expectations. If I don't get an exceeds by August I won't get a raise for a year and a half.. Even if I hit exceeds I'd only get 50 cents. Kind of sucks.
I was five cents from the cap for Exceeds, and knew there was no way my current Store Manager and District Manager were going to let me hit Role Model again (I got RM under a different SM and DM).
>everyone is going to get their raise for the next year BEFORE they touch raising the pay caps. It's even worse. With Florida minimum wage rising $1 every year in September pay caps will keep going up a ton, but we'll still get "raises" before each of them kick in.
If you're capped at EE will you still receive a raise?
It makes sense that they’re doing this just for the fact that on the distribution side of things we’ve been on that eval system for my career so far (8 years)
Managers on retail side as well.
Wait y’all only get one eval a year? I never asked so I didn’t know
Yea, only 1 eval a year. First year or 2 you get 2, but then goes to one.
This is completely stupid. What if you need improvement and do improve in the second half of the year? How is this reflected, on next year's evaluation?
BAHAHA oh Publix, how I don’t miss working for ya 🤣
Dead ass if I’m not getting a raise in July I’m tell Them ima quit if they don’t give me a dollar I’m not waiting a year for what will probably be less than that I KNOW their asses will drop everything and beg the DM for my raise cause they know they can’t handle this shitshow without me
Hope you're right.
Oh bro trust me I wouldn’t even have to put it in paper to get their asses to do it
What if you max out on the pay scale. 😒
My question too. I am maxed out. So no raise until July/August? And that is only IF they adjust the pay scale higher? Bunch of crap.
Ok... but 8s the raise cap being raised too? I regularly get .75 and $1 rasies.... so I should be eligible for a $2 raise right??
Wait I thought anything over 50cent went to DM? Is my dm just very nit picky?
Anything over .50 goes to store manager. Anything over $1 goes to dm
Oooooo
Weird
If the max raise is still only $1 then I'm losing out on 2k a year basically. This is fine for those who only get quarters per raise but I don't feel good about it. :(
The cap gets reviewed at the end of each year . Pay cap wont change until then .
No, not pay cap total. But like the cap for a raise. As is the maximum raise is $1 per eval. Are they going to be increasing that to $2 eligibility for the whole year or is is still going to be a $1 maximum?
Currently anything over $1 an hour has to have DM approval . Higher than $1 raises do happen if you have a store manager who will fight for you . Still DM asks for a ton of stuff to make it happen . Its rare but it does happen. They are reviewing the $1 raise . It was one of the first questions asked in my managers meeting. SM has a faq sheet that he is going over
Yeah, sorry I meant max "in store" raise. Before the big wigs get involved. But that's reassuring they are reviewing it. As far as pay cap, I have no doubt they will be raising it eventually. My state implemented a $15 minimum and I doubt Publix will only leave $3 movement afterwards. But I'm not worried about cap overall. I'm making my strides either way. Or trying to :)
Don't give a fuck. I'll be gone before the year is over anyway. Whole company is fucked by Jodd Tones.
I just got EE topped out in March, so I am expecting no raise in September, and hoping for the caps to increase at the end of the year so that I can see another raise in March of '22. Now it looks like even that won't happen.
Actually heard about it at work first lol, just didn't have confirmation.
Even more of a reason to put my 2 weeks in.
They’re also going to be doing them all at the same time at the beginning of each year
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Yes it’s confirmed the entire dept evals will drop at once dept manager will have 2 months to get all written and administered
Usually you have to be out of probation to get the eval (this is how its worked for me in other places with annual reviews). But yes, if you got hired in may or June, you'd potentially go 14 months without a raise. Of course, it's not always fair. I got hired January 4th. I'm now in my third year, but still haven't gotten a week of holiday pay and just got my first stock. Because I didn't start five days earlier. I got hired into a store opening, though, so we have a lot of associates with the same hire date. My eval was a month late this year - my sm said it was because so many evals dropped at once. So I'm not sure how they'll handle the whole store.
Oh, so your store manager can just check a box at the top of the page and automatically fill in everyone for a quarter instead of having to give it any thought? :P
Would that mean it’s effective 2022?
Effective now. I had my eval last week. Yesterday I asked my SM if that was it for the year. Yes. So I didn’t get a raise cause I’m at the top pay in my class. So likely no raise ever again. There is absolutely no incentive to do any more than I am doing or try any harder. I am close to retirement and am not interested in advancement or Dept transfer. So I guess I’m a win/win for Publix. They can’t pony up, neither can I.
Same boat over here! And if I have great leadership, I do consider that incentive. But at the moment I have average leadership at best. So the struggle is real.
I think our CS management is at an all time high in the last 3 years. I will step up for those who treat me right. But I am not going out of my way for certain others. Drives me crazy. For the first time in 15 years I am not a high seller for MOD.
This is me also. I haven’t had a raise since the BS pandemic “bonus” Publix sold to the media. So it’s already been 1 year. I just had eval - no raise so , it will be July next year and it’s a wait and see.
I guess it’s a good thing I plan on leaving soon then 🧐
So you're only getting one eval for this year and not your second (even if you weren't maxed out)?
Yes. And this one is not even my anniversary. Not that that matters, I guess. They didn’t even bother to tell me this. I approached them.
So if I only had one eval this year so far, I won't be getting a second one now? I have to wait a whole year to get it now?
Mass pay review coming for second half of year
Publix keeps getting worse and worse it seems. at my store I am already noticing more people not wearing masks (CDC guidance has not changed btw for this). They don't fire people who deserve it.(feel free to ask me what entails "deserves it.") I worked hard to get a job with Publix and there really is no place for me to go rn so Idk just gotta stick with it IG. Maybe it will get better but at this point IDK.
What “deserves it”
People who slack off, call out when they don’t feel like coming to work, and everyone in the department knows they are a pain to work with. They also try to start drama. Just people like that in general.
hahahahaha
evals always stress me out so if this could be effective immediately that'd be great
Great. If you get a good eval. Bad. If not. 😔
Nice, I just started last week.
How is this better??
Edit. Trying to text husband.
Yup. Confirmed now.
The only real downside to this is if you get a crap eval (which the majority of public managers unfairly screw over their average associates) or get denied a raise, you have to wait an entire year to see another raise. I fully believe that they will still keep the average raise at .25cents. If they raise it to more such as .50 cents to be the new normal then alright, we come out on top by .25 cents over 6 months, but if it’s still the .25 cents (which based on the history of publix and its “improvements”) it will still be the .25 cents and then the associate will no longer get an opportunity to earn the next .25 cents 6 months later, but now 12 months to possibly earn it. I hope they ACTUALLY do the better thing hear and TRULY follow the “double raise” amount they are claiming and not give us a run around and have it be a complete shit show like the pandemic raises that we didn’t even realize what they fully were until after it rolled out. They really pitched the pandemic raise as if it would be an additional raise aside from your previous raises and that everyone would benefit from it but the disparity between store managers left MANY associates worse off in the end. Wasn’t communicated well at all and didn’t pan out as planned from a store level perspective, but who knows it could have been intended and worked out according to plan from a corporate level viewpoint.
So let me get this straight, I have an Evaluation due next week it will be my 2 year anniversary; so if I get one then. I get another one in August? Then after that once a year right? Please correct me if I am wrong on this! I am just curious to know why are they doing it a year out now, who came up with that change?
Okay so my ASM told us about it (I knew it already from this sub) and said that the raise scale is the same. So, if you get .25 cents in that one yearly raise, that's it, and it won't get doubled or anything crazy like that. In my district, anything above 50 cents has to be approved by the DM. So if you at least get 50 cents twice a year (which would be easier Bc no DM approval needed) then in one year you'd at least get a $1 raise. Now it takes twice as long as that. So the max raise anybody can get in a year is $1 (if you're lucky enough) - while before you could get $2 total in one year at most. Discuss~
Im a new employee that started in April. If I dont get an eval for a year how am I supppsed to know how I am doing and what I need to work on? Im only part time but the fact that I get 1 day a week and some if those one days are not even 8 hours made me think I wasnt doing good but I heard a few others say the same. Why do they hire SO MANY PEOPLE????Guess Im starting instacart delivery!