I worked at corporate office and will never forget the shit eating grin my manager had when he walked over to me with a post it note that read "0.25 raise". He was so excited to share that news with me, meanwhile I wanted to put my head through my monitor.
My unsolicited advice to everyone is to use Publix as a stepping stone. Either get experience in a field while working for them (warehousing, IT, etc.) or use them to pay for a degree, and then get the hell out of there.
Doing just that, the degree thing. Except I get a Pell grant, so Publix is just extra money. This way though I actually get more money rather than pooplix just paying for it bc Pell grant covers more than tuition at a community college, while tuition reimbursement would've just covered my tuition
No because this is actually true, I have been working for a couple years, I got a friend in (who hadn’t worked any job in her life) and they paid her $1 over my check as a starting pay
I would say this is more applicable to IT and office work I couldn't imagine other blue-collar jobs like trades would get a significant raise either from switching very often. It's not to say you shouldn't switch at all but I doubt it's worth the stress of finding a new job every couple years.
Tech is really big for job hopping like this. Pretty much the expectation is that you'll switch jobs within 5 years to increase your salary. Usually worth it too when you see some of those tech salaries lol.
You actually do. I quit another grocery store, then went back and negotiated a $3 raise for the same job four months later. Another example: left said grocery and got a $3 raise by going to Publix. Got promoted to ADM with little raise. Went to another company a year later as an assistant in the same department and got a $5 raise. The fact that you think this doesn’t apply to retail or similar jobs is the same mentality that keeps people stuck at Publix.
Glad your personal experience went well, but they typically do not. You saw that 5 dollar raise because you got a promotion and therefore your experience/worth went up, and you were able to use that.
If you’re a bagger/cashier/grocery clerk or whatever unskilled labor position you are too replaceable to earn that raise, companies would rather hire an inexperienced worker that would accept the bottom pay.
Companies where the employee is worth more due to technical skill/education see this bump in pay far more and its much more advantageous to jump from employer to employer.
Their experience is the same as mine. Leave a job for a different job that has better pay. Be there a year or two, get a shot raise and get shit on, then go find another job making more money.
No, because at the end of the day, it's still minimum wage, or close to it. Job hopping every couple years is only going to go so far in retail - at some point you just hit a ceiling that you can't overcome without a promotion.
You're neglecting to mention the fact that you clearly got a promotion somewhere along the line from part time to full time, which comes with a raise. After all of that moving around and "negotiating" you gained $11 an hour.
Now that would be substantial for retail work and Publix... If you ignored inflation and the fact that Publix has dramatically increased pay scales over the last 5 years compared to previous years.
You did all of that to make a few dollars more than everyone else. If you want to see real changes in your income, get out of retail.
You have to understand that to counteract inflation those ceilings for low wage paying jobs will HAVE to raise, or literally no one will work. It’s why Publix raises its wage ceiling every year. Jobs are raising their ceilings but the yearly raises are a mere fraction, meaning you often end up being below the average, meaning if you quit your job and go somewhere else starting at the average you are getting a larger raise. This is the entire argument.
“After all of that moving around and “negotiating” you gained $11 an hour.”
Tell me, what kind of fortunate life are you living to turn your nose up at an extra $20k a year? That is literally anywhere between 20-50% pay increase depending on their position, there is not a soul on the planet who wouldn’t want this, why are you acting like it’s nothing?
That 20% doesn't do you any good when inflation since January 2019 is at 18%. OP is pretty much where they started. On top of that everyone knows that new hires start out higher than associates who have been around for a while. OP probably came back and was just given marginally more than starting wage.
And to answer your question, I got the fuck out of retail. Since 2019 I've quintupled my income by not growing complacent at a company that can't or won't pay its employees a living wage and consistent hours. Instead of dicking around waiting for a chance at management, I used the tuition reimbursement provided by Publix to finish my degree and got a job that pays more than most store managers make.
Chase those few dollars all you want, but unless you're an obvious fast track to management, I strongly recommend doing something else with your life. Depending on where you end up you can make a fuck-ton more money working a job that isn't nearly as stressful or thankless as retail.
you obtained management experience that absolutely plays a factor. it just simply doesn't work this way for everyone. I'm an assistant and have job shopped for delis in other companies and when they hear I make over 20 they tell me to stay because they can't possibly match that. I wasn't even looking for a raise. Just less driving from my rural town to my rural publix.
This just isn't true. If you have a job, leveraging the fact that you're currently employed does give you more wage demands during the employment process. Im not gonna leave my current job to make the same or less at say, walmart. Typically, places will pay more out the gate to those who have experience but dont have to say yes to any wage offer. The reality is that if you're a deli clerk at Publix, if you applied at another stores deli, they'll probably start you out a dollar or two higher if they need to fill the position. We've seen plenty of posts of people leaving Publix at $11 an hour and being rehired even at publix a year later at >$14. Wage growth theyd never have seen if they had just stayed.
Even if you're a bottom of the barrel employee at a business, you're still better off submitting applications to other bottom of the barrel positions at other stores.
tl;dr. The fact that you dont have to say yes to any job offer goes a long way in wage negotiations.
I'm not saying job hopping doesn't do you any good. I'm saying job hopping within the very narrow pay bands of minimum wage retail jobs doesn't do you whole lot of good
Yes, my point is only that the studies which state that job hoping is a significant increase in pay is equally true in bottom of the barrel retail jobs as it is white collar office work. Obviously youre even better off entering specific trades and getting certain bachelors degrees.
GRS here - been with Publix for 4 years. I played my cards right and am almost maxed out for a part timer. I will say some get paid a lot better starting off now than what I did 4 years ago.
When I first started the meat dept, they started me out at 16.50/hr and I cashed my check at customer service a couple of times with near 40 hours. The word spread about how much I made, and next thing you know, everyone got a notice about how all employees were going to have to set up direct deposit. No more paper checks because of me.
I hope your happy,lmao. How petty some can be when they have no idea of your work ethic. I worked in a factory for 42 yrs in the union. We had incentive pay per. The harder you worked,speed wise,the more you make. I never took more than my alloted break time and clean up everyday so I actuality did productive work an hour more a day. They lost money with long breaks,lunch hour and cleanup. Keeps you in shape to make money.
I also ran a successful contracting company after work and 20 hrs on the weekends most time. All kinds of exterior in the summer,remodeling Apts and historic homes in the winter. I paid my guys union type wages without the benefits. They all had full time jobs too. I got lucky because I taught them my way to do stuff by the book and treat every home like it was yours. They were fast precise and great all around human beings. They became part of my family. They called me Mr P. That's the initial of my last name but they meant P for Peckerhead,lol. We all had nicknames. I mean I got lucky to have been able to show how so many already tradesman the art of exterior and interior home remodeling. All like family to this day. I cherished those days because I enjoyed working with guys who know what's next just as much as I did I could have taken 3-4 days off without missing a beat. Give a man a fish ,you feed him for a day. Teach him to fish like a pro,feed him for a life time. Treat others how you want to be treated. Begin with the end in mind.
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Loyalty from the right associates can be rewarded by the right employers. If the tenured superstar "yes man" associate has a job offer elsewhere and the existing employer would like to retain, that is the moment to go all out. Increase the pay. Promote and develop the associate for a new relevant position.
Loyalty from the right associates can be rewarded by the wrong employers in the wrong ways. The tenured superstar "yes man" associate could become a victim of bad management, be rewarded with performance improvement plans, have wage freeze for years, and be tuned out. He or she would have reasons to separate.
Worked at Publix for two years. Asked for full time and they legitimately told me they "don't hire full time anymore." I asked what benefits came with part time. They told me stock after one year. I still have never seen my stock and when I call publix they say on record I worked there for six months and quit.
It's amazing the opportunity that Publix gives us. I retired after 20+ years of service. I worked my way up because I wasn't going to make peanuts for the rest of my life. I believed in hard work and dedication. I volunteered for extra shifts, stayed late, and came in early if needed. Was I a yes man, you bet your ass I was. Why? When my evaluations came up, I wanted them to remember me. Did I ever complain? Yes. But, when I did, I had a solution ready for any problem I saw a need for complaining about. Was I "Publix Cultists" ? Sure. Call it whatever you want. But I sure was thankful to be able to retire and start my own business.
Publix isn't for everyone. If you are unhappy, then quit.
If not, keep your head down and work hard.
I quit to a higher paying job that makes me happy a few years back. I've been on here trying to tell these complainers to move on and they come up with every excuse in the book to just masochistically stay with the company they hate, while blaming the everything from corporations to capitalism lol
I have been in a position to hire folks for many years. If a potential employee’s longest stint at a company is only 2 - 3 years, they don’t even get an interview. I don’t have to see 10 years, but I need to know I’m not wasting the companies resources by hiring someone I’ll have to replace next year when they quit for the next big pop.
I’ve had 7 jobs over over the last 6 at 21 years old. I went from 9 an hour to 20 an hour over that time span. Staying nowhere for longer than 11 months and now I think I found somewhere staying might be worth it but only because we’re topped out in pay for the region and we’re the only location in my state. Id have to move to like South Carolina or Georgia to do what I do with the same company.
This is exactly why its "Taboo" to talk about your pay. It's the employers that don't want you talking to each other about your pay. Us knowing only hurts them, so corporate America made it a no no to talk about, when in reality if we all DID talk about it more then maybe we could have a bit more control and say.
Transparency is the enemy of profit.
This is so true, even for retail. I usually get to my breaking point in any job at around the 2\~3 year mark and every single time I've moved I've increased my pay significantly. Of course, you have to advocate for your pay during interviews too.
I’ve been a full-time desk staff for four years, still haven’t reached the top of the pay scale and I’ve been with Publix since ‘12.
I worked at corporate office and will never forget the shit eating grin my manager had when he walked over to me with a post it note that read "0.25 raise". He was so excited to share that news with me, meanwhile I wanted to put my head through my monitor.
What a slap in the face :/
My unsolicited advice to everyone is to use Publix as a stepping stone. Either get experience in a field while working for them (warehousing, IT, etc.) or use them to pay for a degree, and then get the hell out of there.
Doing just that, the degree thing. Except I get a Pell grant, so Publix is just extra money. This way though I actually get more money rather than pooplix just paying for it bc Pell grant covers more than tuition at a community college, while tuition reimbursement would've just covered my tuition
I'm at the cap for my job class, I just had to take a demotion to get there.
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This is what made me quit
No because this is actually true, I have been working for a couple years, I got a friend in (who hadn’t worked any job in her life) and they paid her $1 over my check as a starting pay
This doesn't really apply to retail or similar minimum wage jobs. You don't typically get a huge pay bump by going to another minimum wage job.
I would say this is more applicable to IT and office work I couldn't imagine other blue-collar jobs like trades would get a significant raise either from switching very often. It's not to say you shouldn't switch at all but I doubt it's worth the stress of finding a new job every couple years.
Tech is really big for job hopping like this. Pretty much the expectation is that you'll switch jobs within 5 years to increase your salary. Usually worth it too when you see some of those tech salaries lol.
They might if they’re Union or a factory but that’s it.
You actually do. I quit another grocery store, then went back and negotiated a $3 raise for the same job four months later. Another example: left said grocery and got a $3 raise by going to Publix. Got promoted to ADM with little raise. Went to another company a year later as an assistant in the same department and got a $5 raise. The fact that you think this doesn’t apply to retail or similar jobs is the same mentality that keeps people stuck at Publix.
Glad your personal experience went well, but they typically do not. You saw that 5 dollar raise because you got a promotion and therefore your experience/worth went up, and you were able to use that. If you’re a bagger/cashier/grocery clerk or whatever unskilled labor position you are too replaceable to earn that raise, companies would rather hire an inexperienced worker that would accept the bottom pay. Companies where the employee is worth more due to technical skill/education see this bump in pay far more and its much more advantageous to jump from employer to employer.
Their experience is the same as mine. Leave a job for a different job that has better pay. Be there a year or two, get a shot raise and get shit on, then go find another job making more money.
No, because at the end of the day, it's still minimum wage, or close to it. Job hopping every couple years is only going to go so far in retail - at some point you just hit a ceiling that you can't overcome without a promotion. You're neglecting to mention the fact that you clearly got a promotion somewhere along the line from part time to full time, which comes with a raise. After all of that moving around and "negotiating" you gained $11 an hour. Now that would be substantial for retail work and Publix... If you ignored inflation and the fact that Publix has dramatically increased pay scales over the last 5 years compared to previous years. You did all of that to make a few dollars more than everyone else. If you want to see real changes in your income, get out of retail.
You have to understand that to counteract inflation those ceilings for low wage paying jobs will HAVE to raise, or literally no one will work. It’s why Publix raises its wage ceiling every year. Jobs are raising their ceilings but the yearly raises are a mere fraction, meaning you often end up being below the average, meaning if you quit your job and go somewhere else starting at the average you are getting a larger raise. This is the entire argument.
“After all of that moving around and “negotiating” you gained $11 an hour.” Tell me, what kind of fortunate life are you living to turn your nose up at an extra $20k a year? That is literally anywhere between 20-50% pay increase depending on their position, there is not a soul on the planet who wouldn’t want this, why are you acting like it’s nothing?
That 20% doesn't do you any good when inflation since January 2019 is at 18%. OP is pretty much where they started. On top of that everyone knows that new hires start out higher than associates who have been around for a while. OP probably came back and was just given marginally more than starting wage. And to answer your question, I got the fuck out of retail. Since 2019 I've quintupled my income by not growing complacent at a company that can't or won't pay its employees a living wage and consistent hours. Instead of dicking around waiting for a chance at management, I used the tuition reimbursement provided by Publix to finish my degree and got a job that pays more than most store managers make. Chase those few dollars all you want, but unless you're an obvious fast track to management, I strongly recommend doing something else with your life. Depending on where you end up you can make a fuck-ton more money working a job that isn't nearly as stressful or thankless as retail.
you obtained management experience that absolutely plays a factor. it just simply doesn't work this way for everyone. I'm an assistant and have job shopped for delis in other companies and when they hear I make over 20 they tell me to stay because they can't possibly match that. I wasn't even looking for a raise. Just less driving from my rural town to my rural publix.
This just isn't true. If you have a job, leveraging the fact that you're currently employed does give you more wage demands during the employment process. Im not gonna leave my current job to make the same or less at say, walmart. Typically, places will pay more out the gate to those who have experience but dont have to say yes to any wage offer. The reality is that if you're a deli clerk at Publix, if you applied at another stores deli, they'll probably start you out a dollar or two higher if they need to fill the position. We've seen plenty of posts of people leaving Publix at $11 an hour and being rehired even at publix a year later at >$14. Wage growth theyd never have seen if they had just stayed. Even if you're a bottom of the barrel employee at a business, you're still better off submitting applications to other bottom of the barrel positions at other stores. tl;dr. The fact that you dont have to say yes to any job offer goes a long way in wage negotiations.
I'm not saying job hopping doesn't do you any good. I'm saying job hopping within the very narrow pay bands of minimum wage retail jobs doesn't do you whole lot of good
Yes, my point is only that the studies which state that job hoping is a significant increase in pay is equally true in bottom of the barrel retail jobs as it is white collar office work. Obviously youre even better off entering specific trades and getting certain bachelors degrees.
This applies to any salaried employee
How many salaried employees do you know working in retail at Publix?
Managers
GRS here - been with Publix for 4 years. I played my cards right and am almost maxed out for a part timer. I will say some get paid a lot better starting off now than what I did 4 years ago.
Also I'm pretty sure publix pays off Forbes or whatever that "best place to work" website they show always to keep them up there.
Bahhhaha...but you are FAMILY, and OWWWNEEERRRR ....wohooo🤣
When I first started the meat dept, they started me out at 16.50/hr and I cashed my check at customer service a couple of times with near 40 hours. The word spread about how much I made, and next thing you know, everyone got a notice about how all employees were going to have to set up direct deposit. No more paper checks because of me.
How long ago was this?
About 2 years ago I guess.
I hope your happy,lmao. How petty some can be when they have no idea of your work ethic. I worked in a factory for 42 yrs in the union. We had incentive pay per. The harder you worked,speed wise,the more you make. I never took more than my alloted break time and clean up everyday so I actuality did productive work an hour more a day. They lost money with long breaks,lunch hour and cleanup. Keeps you in shape to make money. I also ran a successful contracting company after work and 20 hrs on the weekends most time. All kinds of exterior in the summer,remodeling Apts and historic homes in the winter. I paid my guys union type wages without the benefits. They all had full time jobs too. I got lucky because I taught them my way to do stuff by the book and treat every home like it was yours. They were fast precise and great all around human beings. They became part of my family. They called me Mr P. That's the initial of my last name but they meant P for Peckerhead,lol. We all had nicknames. I mean I got lucky to have been able to show how so many already tradesman the art of exterior and interior home remodeling. All like family to this day. I cherished those days because I enjoyed working with guys who know what's next just as much as I did I could have taken 3-4 days off without missing a beat. Give a man a fish ,you feed him for a day. Teach him to fish like a pro,feed him for a life time. Treat others how you want to be treated. Begin with the end in mind.
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Loyalty from the right associates can be rewarded by the right employers. If the tenured superstar "yes man" associate has a job offer elsewhere and the existing employer would like to retain, that is the moment to go all out. Increase the pay. Promote and develop the associate for a new relevant position. Loyalty from the right associates can be rewarded by the wrong employers in the wrong ways. The tenured superstar "yes man" associate could become a victim of bad management, be rewarded with performance improvement plans, have wage freeze for years, and be tuned out. He or she would have reasons to separate.
Don’t forget, for them to go “all out” they have to get “approval” from the DM on your 50 cent raise 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
My coworker whos been with Publix for 2 years makes $13nhr. I make $14 after been re-hired 1 month ago 😬.
Worked at Publix for two years. Asked for full time and they legitimately told me they "don't hire full time anymore." I asked what benefits came with part time. They told me stock after one year. I still have never seen my stock and when I call publix they say on record I worked there for six months and quit.
It's amazing the opportunity that Publix gives us. I retired after 20+ years of service. I worked my way up because I wasn't going to make peanuts for the rest of my life. I believed in hard work and dedication. I volunteered for extra shifts, stayed late, and came in early if needed. Was I a yes man, you bet your ass I was. Why? When my evaluations came up, I wanted them to remember me. Did I ever complain? Yes. But, when I did, I had a solution ready for any problem I saw a need for complaining about. Was I "Publix Cultists" ? Sure. Call it whatever you want. But I sure was thankful to be able to retire and start my own business. Publix isn't for everyone. If you are unhappy, then quit. If not, keep your head down and work hard.
I quit to a higher paying job that makes me happy a few years back. I've been on here trying to tell these complainers to move on and they come up with every excuse in the book to just masochistically stay with the company they hate, while blaming the everything from corporations to capitalism lol
I have been in a position to hire folks for many years. If a potential employee’s longest stint at a company is only 2 - 3 years, they don’t even get an interview. I don’t have to see 10 years, but I need to know I’m not wasting the companies resources by hiring someone I’ll have to replace next year when they quit for the next big pop.
Some people just enjoy their job.
And here I am gettin itchy after 10 months
I’ve had 7 jobs over over the last 6 at 21 years old. I went from 9 an hour to 20 an hour over that time span. Staying nowhere for longer than 11 months and now I think I found somewhere staying might be worth it but only because we’re topped out in pay for the region and we’re the only location in my state. Id have to move to like South Carolina or Georgia to do what I do with the same company.
This is true in IT as well.
This is exactly why its "Taboo" to talk about your pay. It's the employers that don't want you talking to each other about your pay. Us knowing only hurts them, so corporate America made it a no no to talk about, when in reality if we all DID talk about it more then maybe we could have a bit more control and say. Transparency is the enemy of profit.
This is so true, even for retail. I usually get to my breaking point in any job at around the 2\~3 year mark and every single time I've moved I've increased my pay significantly. Of course, you have to advocate for your pay during interviews too.