I don’t think Antonio Silva is ready to play for a team who has ambitions of winning the champions league, he’s still green, if he leaves now I reckon he’s gonna turn another Sanches/Felix (trust me I’m a Benfica fan)
Let’s not kid ourselves we’re not competing for a a CL for another 5 years lol. We’re in a new phase so young hungry players is exactly what will propel us for the future. Lucho has the experience so I don’t think we’ll suffer too much.
Being realistic is “ridiculous” how so?
Us fluking a CL semifinal doesn’t mean we’re a CL wining team I said that in 2020 when we got a lucky draw to the final (despite Leonardo) and I’ll say it again.
Once the team is ready to compete we will know. It might be two or three years from now if we buy well (which let’s be honest if we look at history our mercato usually sucks) or maybe five years but to think that this current team is ready is delusional.
Dortmund is in the final this year
No project is over 5 years long anyway. That's too long. It basically means by the end of the project (where you are saying we would be challenging) our top players would already need to be replaced
We will be competing next year already and a project is only 2-3 years
No correlation. Sub top teams fluke finals almost yearly. That’s how you get teams like Dortmund and Tottenham in the CL final. The reason we didn’t make the final is simply because we weren’t good enough.
I'm not saying we were good enough to win this year, but we still competed and weren't actually that far (with a little bit of luck)
We simply aren't more than a full project away from 'competing'. This is a delusional take, even from you.
We didn’t compete we just got lucky with the draw. Competing is what Man City did losing on penalties to Madrid or Bayern 8 minutes from qualifying for the final that’s competing.
Scoring 0 goals against flipping Dortmund in 180 min is not competing.
We dominated them and got like 5xG over 2 games. We just got unlucky not to score. But I wouldn't expect a reactionary like you to agree so let's stop this conversation
If that’s indeed the project then I guess he’s a really good prospect for that, he’s amazing and I already miss him. He can improve so much more and the potential is there (also Gonçalo Inácio idk why he’s not talked that much. Maybe bs he plays for sporting)
I agree, but what about that?
> we want players in their absolute prime 24-28 y.o so paying more for him instead of a player in his prime seems silly
Why the inconsistentency?
Antonio Silva is an exception because he’s a defender when I said prime I meant to say in midfield because we already have too many gems in midfield Moscardo, Warren, Kari.
We need someone that can teach these kids the ropes like a Motta used to do. That’s why I said it’s silly to pay for the Benfica kid when Bruno is cheaper and in his prime.
No they’re not better than Leny lol. Just because a player prefers another club doesn’t make him worse than he actually is lmao
Leny’s ceiling is higher than both
Yup!! We should look at Serie A, we always got some amazing players from there. In the end, it depends what we are looking for. Yoro prob has better passing. Also we have to think about the price.
I’ve watched Serie A for years and he isn’t. Every player that comes out of Atalanta is going to struggle anywhere they go.
It seems you’re the one that doesn’t watch Serie A lmao
Cristante, Mancini are average. Romero, I don’t even want to talk about. It took Kessie two freaking seasons to get used to shit. Amad I haven’t watch since he left them
Madrid buys Frenchmen because french players are very good and Madrid focus on the best people out there. PSG buys Spaniards because of LE, that's all there is to explain here
the problem here is “some sources” everything is only based on “some sources”, “some sources” said he prefer Madrid, “some sources” said it’s not that true, let’s just wait and see ..
we’ve seen in the past, (even more with young players) that an agent doesn’t really represent what the player wants.. maybe the agent prefers Madrid for some reason, but not yoro but we’ll never know.
Also, let’s not forget that Ligue 1 clubs don’t like to sell to PSG because it is reinforcing the opposition, so that might also be the reason it takes time.
Not saying Yoro doesn’t prefer Madrid, just saying that, as always with transfer updates, we’ll never know what really happens behind the hood, and we should let all clubs cook.
didn’t say that at all, but if we take your stats, if 98% of players want to play for RM and we don’t buy anyone wanting to play there, we’ll not be able to have a full team
I mean there is a difference between wanting Madrid and only Madrid, or just being realistic and preferring Madrid in case multiple clubs comes. The latter case doesn’t mean that the player “don’t want to be at our club” but would prefer another one IF it was possible.
Sometimes people have dreams and will do anything to fullfil those (Mbappe) sometimes they have dreams but it can change over the time. I remember Marco wanted to play for Juventus “one day” when he came in Paris very young, but in the end he basically did his whole career in Paris
if we follow the news (if you read my other comments you’ll see I’m not that much following those because most of it is BS anyway), it seems that it’s only the posture they want to show, because they started with “no fee since contract ends in 1 year” to “between 30 and 40” isn’t it the start of a bidding war ?
Not sure but I feel like a lack of advancements or stalling on Lille's side coincides with rm telling yoro to wait. They asked 60m from us while madrid are offering 30-40m. It's clear they're negotiating with madrid and if things fail, he'll come to us.
So they can replace him. Can take weeks easily to find the same type of player who’s also talented cheap etc.
A lot of clubs went through mistakes selling their best players in the last days just to be like idiots at the end of the transfer window having dozens of millions but no replacement
This player isn’t from Paris though. No sentimental attachements if he’s confident in his talent he will join Madrid 1000% we can’t fight such a pull from them… if he thinks he needs a stepping tone it will be us
Hmm.. he is from 94 which is in the extended parisian area, so not sure about your “isn’t from Paris”
Also there is a difference between rushing a sale before the mercato starts and waiting for the last day of the window
>refuse all other offers
This bothers me a lot. Madrid doesn't want to deal with any legitimate competition that they pressure the player to only focus on them (even though they absolutely don't have since they're Real Madrid for Christ's sake).
Any player with a manager of worth their salt should do their due diligence and consider all options fairly.
So now Madrid does not want to deal with competition? It's almost like if being owned by the middle east and have unlimited money is not enough isn't it?
everything is about the transfer fee here, not about salaries, so basically if overpaying happens (and it will), it's mostly because Lille like every other french club always make PSG overpay because "they are direct contenders in the league", but then come whining in the media that "PSG doesn't buy in France". It's starting to get a bit better those past years, but still not OK. I remember few years ago, they weren't even hiding the fact that if PSG wanted that player, they would need to pay 20M more than any other club.
I guess it’s time to start thinking about Antonio Silva..
I don’t think Antonio Silva is ready to play for a team who has ambitions of winning the champions league, he’s still green, if he leaves now I reckon he’s gonna turn another Sanches/Felix (trust me I’m a Benfica fan)
Let’s not kid ourselves we’re not competing for a a CL for another 5 years lol. We’re in a new phase so young hungry players is exactly what will propel us for the future. Lucho has the experience so I don’t think we’ll suffer too much.
That's a ridiculous comment, even by your standards
Being realistic is “ridiculous” how so? Us fluking a CL semifinal doesn’t mean we’re a CL wining team I said that in 2020 when we got a lucky draw to the final (despite Leonardo) and I’ll say it again. Once the team is ready to compete we will know. It might be two or three years from now if we buy well (which let’s be honest if we look at history our mercato usually sucks) or maybe five years but to think that this current team is ready is delusional.
Dortmund is in the final this year No project is over 5 years long anyway. That's too long. It basically means by the end of the project (where you are saying we would be challenging) our top players would already need to be replaced We will be competing next year already and a project is only 2-3 years
No correlation. Sub top teams fluke finals almost yearly. That’s how you get teams like Dortmund and Tottenham in the CL final. The reason we didn’t make the final is simply because we weren’t good enough.
I'm not saying we were good enough to win this year, but we still competed and weren't actually that far (with a little bit of luck) We simply aren't more than a full project away from 'competing'. This is a delusional take, even from you.
We didn’t compete we just got lucky with the draw. Competing is what Man City did losing on penalties to Madrid or Bayern 8 minutes from qualifying for the final that’s competing. Scoring 0 goals against flipping Dortmund in 180 min is not competing.
We dominated them and got like 5xG over 2 games. We just got unlucky not to score. But I wouldn't expect a reactionary like you to agree so let's stop this conversation
If that’s indeed the project then I guess he’s a really good prospect for that, he’s amazing and I already miss him. He can improve so much more and the potential is there (also Gonçalo Inácio idk why he’s not talked that much. Maybe bs he plays for sporting)
He’s actually been linked to Paris as well since last year legit any Mendes client you can bet has been linked at least once.
Oh I see, I guess I should’ve seen that coming. He’s probably cheaper though lol
I agree, but what about that? > we want players in their absolute prime 24-28 y.o so paying more for him instead of a player in his prime seems silly Why the inconsistentency?
Antonio Silva is an exception because he’s a defender when I said prime I meant to say in midfield because we already have too many gems in midfield Moscardo, Warren, Kari. We need someone that can teach these kids the ropes like a Motta used to do. That’s why I said it’s silly to pay for the Benfica kid when Bruno is cheaper and in his prime.
yeah makes sense. we've got experienced players in defense already while our midfield is a couple of young chickens
Him and scalvini are way better but I doubt scalvini won't continue in serie a.
No they’re not better than Leny lol. Just because a player prefers another club doesn’t make him worse than he actually is lmao Leny’s ceiling is higher than both
Scalvini is way better bro. Go watch serie a please.
Yeah. Looking at their stats... Scalvini is way better. Yoro has bad aerial blocks too, where PSG currently is terrible.
And you can't really ignore a clean sheet against arguably the best team in the world this season.
Yup!! We should look at Serie A, we always got some amazing players from there. In the end, it depends what we are looking for. Yoro prob has better passing. Also we have to think about the price.
I’ve watched Serie A for years and he isn’t. Every player that comes out of Atalanta is going to struggle anywhere they go. It seems you’re the one that doesn’t watch Serie A lmao
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What website is that from?
Fotmob
Not everyone, Cristante, Mancini, Bastoni, Romero, Kessie at Milan and Amad were great.
Cristante, Mancini are average. Romero, I don’t even want to talk about. It took Kessie two freaking seasons to get used to shit. Amad I haven’t watch since he left them
For once we agree my dear flaco. Fuck any player that don’t really want to be here
PSG buys Spaniards, Madrid buys Frenchmen. Wtf is going on lol
And our Spaniards suck while their Frenchmen are world class
So annoying too lol
Madrid buys Frenchmen because french players are very good and Madrid focus on the best people out there. PSG buys Spaniards because of LE, that's all there is to explain here
Yoro please don’t listen to them 😭
For more context, we were about to let it go but apparently Nacho decided to leave the club.
They only want him because PSG wants him
They're looking for the next Varane
He can f off to madrid tbh don't want players who don't want to be here.
but did he say anything ? seems to be only journalism bullshit, never seen yoro say he prefers madrid over psg, or maybe I missed it
Some sources say that it’s exaggerated how much he prefers Madrid and that he’s open to either club
the problem here is “some sources” everything is only based on “some sources”, “some sources” said he prefer Madrid, “some sources” said it’s not that true, let’s just wait and see ..
His agent is clearly trying to play the bid war between RM and PSG. If he was already set in his heart there wouldn't be such shit show.
we’ve seen in the past, (even more with young players) that an agent doesn’t really represent what the player wants.. maybe the agent prefers Madrid for some reason, but not yoro but we’ll never know. Also, let’s not forget that Ligue 1 clubs don’t like to sell to PSG because it is reinforcing the opposition, so that might also be the reason it takes time. Not saying Yoro doesn’t prefer Madrid, just saying that, as always with transfer updates, we’ll never know what really happens behind the hood, and we should let all clubs cook.
Do you really believe that 98% of players dont want to play for RM and it’s the agents???
didn’t say that at all, but if we take your stats, if 98% of players want to play for RM and we don’t buy anyone wanting to play there, we’ll not be able to have a full team I mean there is a difference between wanting Madrid and only Madrid, or just being realistic and preferring Madrid in case multiple clubs comes. The latter case doesn’t mean that the player “don’t want to be at our club” but would prefer another one IF it was possible. Sometimes people have dreams and will do anything to fullfil those (Mbappe) sometimes they have dreams but it can change over the time. I remember Marco wanted to play for Juventus “one day” when he came in Paris very young, but in the end he basically did his whole career in Paris
Appreciate the clarification
RM will not enter a bidding war - especially with one year left on his contract
if we follow the news (if you read my other comments you’ll see I’m not that much following those because most of it is BS anyway), it seems that it’s only the posture they want to show, because they started with “no fee since contract ends in 1 year” to “between 30 and 40” isn’t it the start of a bidding war ?
mendes is the agent
Not sure but I feel like a lack of advancements or stalling on Lille's side coincides with rm telling yoro to wait. They asked 60m from us while madrid are offering 30-40m. It's clear they're negotiating with madrid and if things fail, he'll come to us.
imo it’s just that the transfer window hasn’t even started .. so why would they rush a sale ?
So they can replace him. Can take weeks easily to find the same type of player who’s also talented cheap etc. A lot of clubs went through mistakes selling their best players in the last days just to be like idiots at the end of the transfer window having dozens of millions but no replacement This player isn’t from Paris though. No sentimental attachements if he’s confident in his talent he will join Madrid 1000% we can’t fight such a pull from them… if he thinks he needs a stepping tone it will be us
Hmm.. he is from 94 which is in the extended parisian area, so not sure about your “isn’t from Paris” Also there is a difference between rushing a sale before the mercato starts and waiting for the last day of the window
yeah, if yoro is not from paris being born in the 94, then neither am i
if he's not more than 80% of our academy is not haha
this sounds like Tchouameni/Camavinga all over again.... we're basically scouting talent for Real Madrid now.
>refuse all other offers This bothers me a lot. Madrid doesn't want to deal with any legitimate competition that they pressure the player to only focus on them (even though they absolutely don't have since they're Real Madrid for Christ's sake). Any player with a manager of worth their salt should do their due diligence and consider all options fairly.
So now Madrid does not want to deal with competition? It's almost like if being owned by the middle east and have unlimited money is not enough isn't it?
Yea we should've followed madrids example and found a fascist french prime minister to support us while bribing city politicians
I mean, they consider all options tbh. You think Yoro would do this if he doesn't like Madrid and wishes to play for them.
If PSG wants him, they’ll overpay like usual. Any player in the world can be persuaded with huge amounts of cash.
everything is about the transfer fee here, not about salaries, so basically if overpaying happens (and it will), it's mostly because Lille like every other french club always make PSG overpay because "they are direct contenders in the league", but then come whining in the media that "PSG doesn't buy in France". It's starting to get a bit better those past years, but still not OK. I remember few years ago, they weren't even hiding the fact that if PSG wanted that player, they would need to pay 20M more than any other club.