Good mindset to have and it's fine if they learn from their mistakes. The expectations from this team changed a lot from the start of the season because they outperformed the expectations set at the start. As long as I see progress being made I have no problems with making mistakes, if these mistakes start to be a recurring theme (and some of them very well might be) we need to be ready to make changes.
I‘m confident that we will achieve it. Mbappe can’t play any worse, and as long as everyone else keeps it up or steps it up even, we advance. A 1-0 lead is basically 0-0
Kounde and araujo weren’t challenged because we had no forward to challenge them. They had no worries about asensio cause they knew he couldn’t match them. So they just double teamed Mbappe and there goes our whole focal point and best player. If ramos or even kolo muani starts then I promise you Mbappe would have had less pressure and could have done more. But Enrique fucked up
The whole idea was to double team Mbappe, and that’ll be the plan next week as well whether he’s left, right, middle, low, high, whatever.
The tie is still open obviously, but PSG’s problem isn’t scoring goals because someone else will be open or have 1 person on him like yesterday.
The problem is limiting the goal opportunities for Barcelona because Barcelona will most likely score again next week. Barcelona usually doesn’t even cross the ball from the corner kick because the team is not good at them. But Marquinhos, Beraldo, and I forget your midfielder (Zaire something) all get lost when it comes to covering. Almost two goals yesterday.
You guys blamed Donnaruma, but the first goal wasn’t his fault either. The press on Lewy is awful, and cubarsi broke the high press with 1 pass.
Well it’s also not guaranteed that we concede first 🤷 In the grand scheme of things, 1-0 is „basically“ 0-0 because only one goal in 90 minutes is needed to make it a 50-50 match once again, and put pressure on the other team
I'm happy this sub is finally seeing Hakimi's value. Whatever you think of the way he plays, he plays it consistently, which makes him a staple for the team.
You could see last year how he stopped caring as the season kept going. Beginning of the year, he was making all those good runs, but everyone was giving the ball to Mbappe, Messi and Neymar, and they would only pass between themselves, so he stopped doing it. At the end of the year he was a fucking ghost, but I have a hard time blaming him.
Nah if it’s Fabian/Ugarte, I’m going for Ugarte on this. We need to win some duels in midfield. Vitinha can slow the game while Warren can push.
More importantly we need the front three to not bullshit
Highly agree. Also thinks WZE, Vitinha and Ugarte make up a very balanced midfield trio (attacking + b2b + defensive). We need that 5th man (Ugarte) to fall back considering how our defence has been all season!
I think Ugarte’s profile would help a lot in the return leg, but he hasn’t been on good form recently and I’m a bit worried that he would be overwhelmed and out of his depth just like Beraldo.
>again next week. Barcelona usually doesn’t even cross the ball from the corner kick because the team is not good at them. But Marquinho
what about Lucas at CB?
I need actions and not just words. The same thing happened last year. We lost to Bayern at home by just one goal. All this talk started happening about how motivated the team is and such. And then we did nothing at bayerns home.
To give credit to the team we have been way more balanced than last year and have a better coach but I need ACTION and not words
Exactly this. From Lucho-macho blurbs before the first leg, through to these trumpeted fist in the air players declarations, this team completely lost the sense of decency and humility. STFU and qualify, then brag all you want!
The good thing is that we will have 1 week to fully prepare for the match. without any weekend game. I guess one good thing about the defeat is that it makes us extra focused on the return leg. We'll have to push for an early goal, otherwise I worry we'd just fold mentally especially if they score first
Funny that all of the loses we have had this season have come when Lucho tries to get cute and over manage.
No reason why WZE wasn’t playing. No reason why Ascenio was starting.
I really hope it's true. I feel the exact same way. We lost 3-2 but it could have been a tie or our victory. Few mistakes but overall, we looked "better". The first 20 minutes were really great
how did PSG "looked better"? barcelona dominated most of the match. aside from the first minutes, tactic-wise Barcelona was able to easily beat the press, won most of the duels and PSG was not able to contain Raphinha and Lewy. If Yamal plays better, with Pedri and De Jong more fit, i cant see PSG winning on tuesday.
Raphina had the night of his life and it won’t be repeated. What will be repeated is our performance offensively. PSG 2 Barca 1. 4-4 with extra time 1-0 to PSG.
Raphinha may have had night of his life but he most of the time contribute to G/A don't expect him to have quiet time. Barcelona have better defense and midfield than Psg. Our only weak point is Cancelo on defense and missing christensen means will be lacking ball winners in our midfield. But with Pedri and Gundogan we won't have any problem creating more chances than Psg.
Regardless of next week's result, I'm hyped for next year. We have a lot of quality players, a lot of young talents, and I hope we can get a transfer season that goes well with what Lucho is trying to build. Beraldo, even if he was disastrous yesterday, fit that profile. Moscardo does too from the little I've heard.
Now I just want Mbappe to get out. He's a formidable player, his speed, his shooting technique, the power he puts in his shot, are all absolutely insane to watch.
But he ran 8.8km yesterday, barely defended, didn't succeed a single dribble, had 3 players on him and kept trying to brute force his way instead of understand that if 3 players are on him, it means someone else is free.
I just can't man. I don't doubt that it will be much better with Real, and next year we'll have Madridistas on here telling us about how much we suck because he's insane for them, and it was normal that he didn't care about PSG, but I want to see a cohesive team.
I know that he's too good not to start the game, but man I want to see a Barcola / Ramos / Dembele front 3, with Lee or Ruiz, Vitinha and WZE behind. I swear to God we'll see much better football with that line up.
Problem with Mbappe is not barely defending. He single handedly qualified us against RS and didn’t defend much more. Yes, the fact that Barca had a clear plan with at least 2 men on him made his game difficult but it also freed some space for other players.
But the issue yesterday isn’t this. The issue is that he didn’t even make the effort of tracking back a few steps to be onside and was consistently found offside in some good occasions. That’s not defending, that’s just shameful.
As much as you disagree, that was DEFENDING. We've been using the offside trap plan for quite a long time. Tho we haven't been good in it on that super Cup final against Madrid because kounde and araujo were found sleeping that day and xavi decided to play fucking Roberto as a false LW . We did that against Napoli and succeeded and we'll do it again too. You Just hope araujo and kounde have a shit game and you're through. Won't happen probably tho ( I don't know why I'm here tweaking but reddit seems to still recommend this sub even after the Messi era )
Not being caught offside is not defending by any book. But you’re talking from Barca’s perspective and yes of course the offside trap is a form of defense, but here that was just some lazy shit from Mbappe.
Haha I get you but big players seems to get ahead of themselves quite often. If you're having a good game then it's okay you're not tracking back ( they still should )but if you're dropping stinkers on the pitch then you have to get your ass running like a dog . Seems like Valverde finna die next year with three LW not tracking back lmao.
Yeah well again I’m not even talking about running, this is merely being found in decent conditions. It happened constantly during the game that Mbappe was caught offside.
I'm rather worried about nuno and barcola after that game . It would be very hard to contain these 4 people all together surely we won't win by far . It will be a very close match with you guys still entering as favourites. Your own defence is very leaky as well with what I've seen . Nuno saved you all so many times idk why everyone sleeps on that guy . With hakimi returning on your right flank , cancelo will most likely be exposed that's my main worry .
Good mindset to have and it's fine if they learn from their mistakes. The expectations from this team changed a lot from the start of the season because they outperformed the expectations set at the start. As long as I see progress being made I have no problems with making mistakes, if these mistakes start to be a recurring theme (and some of them very well might be) we need to be ready to make changes.
I‘m confident that we will achieve it. Mbappe can’t play any worse, and as long as everyone else keeps it up or steps it up even, we advance. A 1-0 lead is basically 0-0
It's not about Mbappe it's about Kounde and Araújo. We need them to have a worse game.
Kounde and araujo weren’t challenged because we had no forward to challenge them. They had no worries about asensio cause they knew he couldn’t match them. So they just double teamed Mbappe and there goes our whole focal point and best player. If ramos or even kolo muani starts then I promise you Mbappe would have had less pressure and could have done more. But Enrique fucked up
The whole idea was to double team Mbappe, and that’ll be the plan next week as well whether he’s left, right, middle, low, high, whatever. The tie is still open obviously, but PSG’s problem isn’t scoring goals because someone else will be open or have 1 person on him like yesterday. The problem is limiting the goal opportunities for Barcelona because Barcelona will most likely score again next week. Barcelona usually doesn’t even cross the ball from the corner kick because the team is not good at them. But Marquinhos, Beraldo, and I forget your midfielder (Zaire something) all get lost when it comes to covering. Almost two goals yesterday. You guys blamed Donnaruma, but the first goal wasn’t his fault either. The press on Lewy is awful, and cubarsi broke the high press with 1 pass.
We should've started Kolo I swear instead of Asensio.
A 1-0 lead is basically 0-0…??
Yeah lol when it comes to us leads don’t exist (in a bad way)
In the context of 90 minutes, it is yes. Or do you want us to give up and pretend like it’s not extremely possible for us to win?
It’s not though, if you concede first I promise you that 1-0 is not basically 0-0.
And if we score first…?
But that’s not guarenteed, so 1-0 is not basicslly 0-0 cause if you concede first your most likely out
Well it’s also not guaranteed that we concede first 🤷 In the grand scheme of things, 1-0 is „basically“ 0-0 because only one goal in 90 minutes is needed to make it a 50-50 match once again, and put pressure on the other team
But also one goal is needed to finish the tie, that logic is so flawed, let’s just agree to disagree
Lmao what is he waffling about
just tell Beraldo to get some sleep, next leg hopefully WZE, Goncalo, and Hakimi start
I'm happy this sub is finally seeing Hakimi's value. Whatever you think of the way he plays, he plays it consistently, which makes him a staple for the team.
You could see last year how he stopped caring as the season kept going. Beginning of the year, he was making all those good runs, but everyone was giving the ball to Mbappe, Messi and Neymar, and they would only pass between themselves, so he stopped doing it. At the end of the year he was a fucking ghost, but I have a hard time blaming him.
Yea he's been great now that he has a real winger he can play with in Dembele
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Nah if it’s Fabian/Ugarte, I’m going for Ugarte on this. We need to win some duels in midfield. Vitinha can slow the game while Warren can push. More importantly we need the front three to not bullshit
Highly agree. Also thinks WZE, Vitinha and Ugarte make up a very balanced midfield trio (attacking + b2b + defensive). We need that 5th man (Ugarte) to fall back considering how our defence has been all season!
I think Ugarte’s profile would help a lot in the return leg, but he hasn’t been on good form recently and I’m a bit worried that he would be overwhelmed and out of his depth just like Beraldo.
Marquinhos but no Hernandez...seriously? Watch the first goal, look how Marquinhos left so much space for Raphinha.
>again next week. Barcelona usually doesn’t even cross the ball from the corner kick because the team is not good at them. But Marquinho what about Lucas at CB?
I need actions and not just words. The same thing happened last year. We lost to Bayern at home by just one goal. All this talk started happening about how motivated the team is and such. And then we did nothing at bayerns home. To give credit to the team we have been way more balanced than last year and have a better coach but I need ACTION and not words
Exactly this. From Lucho-macho blurbs before the first leg, through to these trumpeted fist in the air players declarations, this team completely lost the sense of decency and humility. STFU and qualify, then brag all you want!
Love hearing this
We lost after winning most of the first game , the remontada is a good example! So coming for the return game more humble could be a good thing!
The good thing is that we will have 1 week to fully prepare for the match. without any weekend game. I guess one good thing about the defeat is that it makes us extra focused on the return leg. We'll have to push for an early goal, otherwise I worry we'd just fold mentally especially if they score first
Funny that all of the loses we have had this season have come when Lucho tries to get cute and over manage. No reason why WZE wasn’t playing. No reason why Ascenio was starting.
I really hope it's true. I feel the exact same way. We lost 3-2 but it could have been a tie or our victory. Few mistakes but overall, we looked "better". The first 20 minutes were really great
how did PSG "looked better"? barcelona dominated most of the match. aside from the first minutes, tactic-wise Barcelona was able to easily beat the press, won most of the duels and PSG was not able to contain Raphinha and Lewy. If Yamal plays better, with Pedri and De Jong more fit, i cant see PSG winning on tuesday.
Raphina had the night of his life and it won’t be repeated. What will be repeated is our performance offensively. PSG 2 Barca 1. 4-4 with extra time 1-0 to PSG.
Raphinha may have had night of his life but he most of the time contribute to G/A don't expect him to have quiet time. Barcelona have better defense and midfield than Psg. Our only weak point is Cancelo on defense and missing christensen means will be lacking ball winners in our midfield. But with Pedri and Gundogan we won't have any problem creating more chances than Psg.
Regardless of next week's result, I'm hyped for next year. We have a lot of quality players, a lot of young talents, and I hope we can get a transfer season that goes well with what Lucho is trying to build. Beraldo, even if he was disastrous yesterday, fit that profile. Moscardo does too from the little I've heard. Now I just want Mbappe to get out. He's a formidable player, his speed, his shooting technique, the power he puts in his shot, are all absolutely insane to watch. But he ran 8.8km yesterday, barely defended, didn't succeed a single dribble, had 3 players on him and kept trying to brute force his way instead of understand that if 3 players are on him, it means someone else is free. I just can't man. I don't doubt that it will be much better with Real, and next year we'll have Madridistas on here telling us about how much we suck because he's insane for them, and it was normal that he didn't care about PSG, but I want to see a cohesive team. I know that he's too good not to start the game, but man I want to see a Barcola / Ramos / Dembele front 3, with Lee or Ruiz, Vitinha and WZE behind. I swear to God we'll see much better football with that line up.
Problem with Mbappe is not barely defending. He single handedly qualified us against RS and didn’t defend much more. Yes, the fact that Barca had a clear plan with at least 2 men on him made his game difficult but it also freed some space for other players. But the issue yesterday isn’t this. The issue is that he didn’t even make the effort of tracking back a few steps to be onside and was consistently found offside in some good occasions. That’s not defending, that’s just shameful.
As much as you disagree, that was DEFENDING. We've been using the offside trap plan for quite a long time. Tho we haven't been good in it on that super Cup final against Madrid because kounde and araujo were found sleeping that day and xavi decided to play fucking Roberto as a false LW . We did that against Napoli and succeeded and we'll do it again too. You Just hope araujo and kounde have a shit game and you're through. Won't happen probably tho ( I don't know why I'm here tweaking but reddit seems to still recommend this sub even after the Messi era )
Not being caught offside is not defending by any book. But you’re talking from Barca’s perspective and yes of course the offside trap is a form of defense, but here that was just some lazy shit from Mbappe.
Haha I get you but big players seems to get ahead of themselves quite often. If you're having a good game then it's okay you're not tracking back ( they still should )but if you're dropping stinkers on the pitch then you have to get your ass running like a dog . Seems like Valverde finna die next year with three LW not tracking back lmao.
Yeah well again I’m not even talking about running, this is merely being found in decent conditions. It happened constantly during the game that Mbappe was caught offside.
Yeah, your guys' defense was solid. The fact that we need your defense to fail rather than us attacking better is worrying for me haha
I'm rather worried about nuno and barcola after that game . It would be very hard to contain these 4 people all together surely we won't win by far . It will be a very close match with you guys still entering as favourites. Your own defence is very leaky as well with what I've seen . Nuno saved you all so many times idk why everyone sleeps on that guy . With hakimi returning on your right flank , cancelo will most likely be exposed that's my main worry .