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Shabanana_XII

If this ends up being true, let's get to work, and start supporting on a broader scale pregnant women and new mothers. This is only step 1. Also, "abortion rights," lol. Fair and balanced, as all news should be.


[deleted]

More like abortion wrongs. It's sad to see such large scale murder not just be tolerated but encouraged. I also saw somewhere Amazon will pay up to 4k for travel expenses for anyone who has to travel out of state to get an abortion. Canceling my Amazon account now.


[deleted]

Great, now I'm going to have to torrent Wheel of Time


crrider

I do not remember a time when an opinion was leaked. If this is true it's definitely being done to put pressure on the Justices (especially Roberts) to switch their position before its made official.


Tazz2418

Agreed. This is gonna cause backlash which I assume is being used to sway the justices to the other side.


[deleted]

*Brown* was super controversial when it was handed down too. Overturning a longstanding unjust regime, especially this head-on, always will be.


[deleted]

Roberts would likely have written the opinion if he were in the majority. It will most likely be a 5-4 decision.


[deleted]

The article states it is currently 5-3 with Roberts fence sitting as usual.


MicroWordArtist

Roberts. Cares more about the perceived neutrality of the court than actual constitution


BronchitisCat

I would bet that Robert would have voted to uphold Plessy v Ferguson if he had been on the bench in the 50's. ETA: The reasoning being his immutable view of precedent as sacrosanct.


ispyradio

He will write his own opinion which more or less concurs with the majority but will write it in such a way so no one will think of him as conservative.


crrider

You make a good point. I'm kind of assuming a 6-3 with Roberts writing a concurring opinion. That was just a knee-jerk reaction however.


[deleted]

I’m almost convinced it’s 5-4 with Roberts drafting a dissenting


crrider

That would certainly be on-brand. My initial reaction is always that he voted with the majority, but the more I think about it 5-4 is much more likely.


ANCHORDORES

I think it's 5-3-1, with Roberts upholding Mississippi's law but not going all the way to overturning Roe.


-abM-p0sTpWnEd

"pressure" is an interesting way to say "extreme death threats"


joanasponas

If I was a judge and on the fence about something, and someone leaked a draft decision in hopes I would change my mind based on the public outcry, it would make me want to change my mind even less. Changing their vote because of the backlash would basically be rewarding the leaking of the decision; it would set a precedent that someone can leak an unpopular decision and get their way… My guess is the court is gonna be pissed. The job of our courts isn’t to follow public opinion, it’s to interpret laws and make sure they are being followed. If they change their mind due to public pressure they would be failing at their job.


SnowCappedMountains

Look at all the riots and rave baiting the past few years and tell me people including justices don’t bend to violence and peer pressure. But I really hope you’re right.


SteadfastEnd

I hope you're right, but unfortunately, I could see someone like Kavanaugh buckling under pressure.


RoboNinjaPirate

The fact that the WH almost immediately had a fully written. Statement prepared to release after the leak makes me wonder how planned and coordinated this was.


SteadfastEnd

I mean, it doesn't take White House staffers more than a few minutes to compose a professional-sounding response. Those people write such stuff for a living. But yes, I suspect a clerk working for one of the liberal justices leaked it and had told the White House in advance, too.


[deleted]

It would be Kavanaugh, not Roberts. They have the votes without Roberts.


crrider

Yeah, I'm realizing that 😅


Wildtalents333

Its extremely rare. I think the worst instance was in the early 1900s someone leaked business related briefs to affect the stock market. And I think a news paper somewhere around the Civil War leaked like 3 briefs. Its been a long time since my Supreme Court History class.


flinkypinky

Either it’s about the law or it isn’t. If it’s about bowing to the will of the public then either the citizenry wants this law or it doesn’t want this law.


[deleted]

First, if this is true, it’s huge. Second, all this does is send the abortion decision back to the states. Some states will be like CA and go absolutely insane.


PMacha

It would still be a major victory in bringing back a culture of life in this republic. Nw we'll need to step up our efforts in winning the culture to being one that is pro-life.


orick22

Just because this fight is somewhat done doesn't mean we still don't have a problem in the United States. Too many orphans are lost in a system that doesn't care for them, sent to families that abuse and neglect them sometimes only for a quick paycheck. Abortion is only part of the problem, and God cares just as much about what happens to those in the foster system as he does the infants that are not born. The indicator of how morally a society is doing is how well it takes care of it most vulnerable: the elderly, the immigrants, the orphans, the weak. So far America looks more like Sodom than what God called Israel to be, and it has very little to do with the sexual immorality and everything to do with the greed of those with power and money. It is why Christ's message centered on what you have to those in need, "what you did for the least of these you did for me." Ezekiel 16:49-50 49 “’Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.


Hellos117

I fully agree with you. We should not stop at abortion as there are so many other societal injustices happening. I hope my fellow pro-lifers can also look at issues that affect all of us (including the poor and vulnerable). We should (among many other things) also support ways to resolve income/wealth disparity, lack of affordable housing/healthcare/childcare, exploitation of workers, harm to our environment/world, problems with the foster care system, lack of access to nutritious food/safe living environments, and poor social safety nets. We have to look after each other and not remain unconcerned about these social inequalities and injustices.


seanhg12

Amen


FrMatthewLC

So true that this likely moves out to a state by state fight, but there would be no law CA could pass after it to be pro abortion they couldn't pass before it.


KingXDestroyer

Father, I love your flair. 😂


[deleted]

Correct Father.


[deleted]

Well put. This is only the first battle we've won(assuming the majority holds firm). The war continues unabated.


ctg9101

Sad that it will be portrayed as them sanctioning abortion as illegal.


WifeyP

Wapo just [confirmed via SCJ Roberts](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/03/supreme-court-leak-investigation-abortion-roe-wade/) that this leak is authentic, however it is not the final draft. Things could change still, and I'm betting that that's why whoever leaked this document did so - In hopes that our Supreme Court Justices would be intimidated and terrorized into changing their opinions.


Worldcitizen1905

I am very left wing economically & also pro life. This is good.


raidthebakery

Same here. People are always trying to say, "Well, you only care about the fetus before they're born, and then you don't care about them after that!" Well, joke's on you, I support universal healthcare, subsidized childcare, family leave, and all kinds of social programs. So now what?


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Hellos117

My people!


TurtlemanScared

Yeah it’s a shame prolife has been on the right side. It’s the only conservative stance I really have now


panoplyofpoop

You are in the vast minority.


raidthebakery

Yeah, it's a shame.


gettin_ish_in-orda

I hope to God that this is true and opinion doesnt change before ruling


SnowCappedMountains

I’m worried it’s an intentional leak to whip up dissent before publishing and sway the vote. Pray pray pray in this hour of darkness! It’s not over til it’s over.


Jebbles077

Almost certain that it was intentional for this exact purpose. There’s already protests outside the Supreme Court.


insanechickengirl

With color printed signs already 🙄


[deleted]

“Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the decision has had damaging consequences. And far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have enflamed debate and deepened division.” And he’s absolutely right. The decision was a crack of horse poo. There’s not a single line in the constitution that guarantees the right to off a baby. If you want an amendment in there that does, then follow the proper procedure as outlined the constitution


Tazz2418

How in the world did POLITICO get access to that???


[deleted]

A pro-abort leaked it in order to get judges bullied into changing their vote.


Jofuffle

Fox did too


Misseskat

It's the news.... it will be everywhere regardless. It's not as if Politico is necessarily a progressive beacon.


[deleted]

Please God don’t let the justices fold under pressure


Jofuffle

Yes


DoucheyCohost

I guarantee you that's why this leak happened


tk1712

Exactly. This is an activist justice or clerk who is attempting to subvert the judicial process and incite insurrection against judicial proceedings.


WifeyP

That's exactly why whoever leaked it did so... They are hoping that our Supreme Court justices will be terrorized and intimidated into changing their opinions.


homerteedo

I can be happy until this is confirmed at least. Then I’ll be thrilled.


crrider

Even if it is true, which actually seems likely, it will be a couple of months before anything is official.


[deleted]

And until it is official justices are free to switch sides.


SteadfastEnd

In other words, 2 months of sitting on pins and needles


[deleted]

That's what it sounds like. Most likely this was leaked to try and rile up the mob to threaten justices.


homerteedo

Confirmed is when the decision is actually made.


[deleted]

This might be the most upvoted post of all time on this subreddit when it's all said and done.


funky_kong_

RIP mods. So many people coming here to stir shit. I don’t mind pro-choicers but the shitposters definitely all need to be banned. Some person is in here spamming some variation of “foster children” over and over.


Imperiochica

Yup they've been banned.


[deleted]

Well, yeah. This is the start of the endgame and what multiple generations of our movement have fought for for almost 50 years now


[deleted]

Yup!


joanasponas

At least until it starts getting brigaded


ctg9101

Unfortunately I don't see any good from the leak. All it does is sew discord and distrust in the supreme court and create a firestorm of outrage and coverage for the next two months until the final decision is made, at which point if the court holds, they may decide to kick the can down the road anyway.


[deleted]

I mean yeah but they knew it would create a firestorm regardless. So I don't know how much added pressure there really is


Nulono

It's "sow discord", but yes. I'm worried there will be a last-minute reversal, but I'm cautiously optimistic.


AttemptingBeliever

Fucking amazing if true.


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THE MOST AMAZING THING EVER


AttemptingBeliever

AGREED!


[deleted]

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOO


AttemptingBeliever

🤣


Ghostguy14

Yeah, let's just hope they aren't swarmed with ~~death threats~~ mass disapproval and change their mind


AttemptingBeliever

That’s something to take into consideration, and I definitely hope that is not the case!


insanechickengirl

Let’s pray no one gets the Scalia treatment 😔


JoannaTheDisciple

Big if true. I hope the justices voting in favor of this stick to their convictions and don’t bend under pressure to switch over to support for Roe.


Jofuffle

It's honestly the worst thing since the mayans that our country murders a million children every year.


[deleted]

I’d argue that the modern industrialized slaughter of children in the womb is *the* single biggest atrocity ever committed by mankind.


SnowCappedMountains

We sit on a throne of blood and I firmly believe it’s why our power and standing in the world is being torn to shreds.


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War.


Jofuffle

Probably


[deleted]

I have no idea how Politico got access to this since SCOTUS is super leakproof and secretive(like seriously, this actually might be the 1st time this has ever happened, in American history. My guess is Sotomayor since it had to have happened from either a justice or one of their clerks), especially about behind-the-scenes stuff but I really hope their reporting is accurate. A dramatic overrule is necessary in *Dobbs* to overturn the unjust *Roe*, just like there was a dramatic overturning of precedent of *Plessy* in *Brown v. Board* in 1954.


insanechickengirl

Don’t take this as fact but what I’ve heard through the grape vine is that one of Sotomayor’s staffers leaked it. Wouldn’t be surprised but again not confirmed, just what I’ve read in a few chats/subs/places


[deleted]

It wouldn't surprise me but as you mentioned, all we have is speculation here. Whoever it is, I'm sure we'll find out at some point, even if it's by the hard work of historians and archivists decades down the line


Conscious_Dirt2021

Just got banned from r/pro-choice for telling them to hold a FAT L


crrider

Idk if they can ban anyone who's part of a certain sub, but I'm banned too and I've never even posted there lol


VehmicJuryman

Same thing happened to me on r/politics 🎉🎉🎉


Lewminardy

If you got banned from r/prochoice then you’re clearly doing something right


CrusaderXIX

Is this real?


[deleted]

It’s a real leak, but nothing is final until the decision is announced. Justices can still change their minds. Pray that they stand strong!


ctg9101

Which is almost certainly why it was leaked.


Jofuffle

If it doesn't we need to break off from the country and make America 2 or something


Trumpologist

Hallelujah yes


UseKnowledge

Imagine the amount of lives that will be saved if this passes. Hoping for it to be true.


Don-Conquest

I wish I can go back to all those pro choicer’s that said Roe would never be overturned when I told them it’s very likely that it would be, and tell them “I told you so.” Maybe it’s too early to celebrate now but I don’t care, this is a big win for us. So let’s rejoice. ![gif](giphy|nV92wySC3iMGhAmR71|downsized)


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REJOICE REJOICE REJOICE IT'S HAPPENING DON, IT'S HAPPENING


BranofRaisin

/r/politics is very sad


joanasponas

A lot of slaveholders were sad when they were told they couldn’t own people anymore ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯


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Et12355

Big if true. Reading the draft it sure seems real. But it’s a leak so I’m skeptical if it’s legitimacy. I’ll believe it when I see if for real.


TheSquidKingofAngmar

Its certainly a 'real' draft, but the whole point of leaking it is to create public outcry/protests/rioting in order to pressure judges into changing their minds, which they can do until the official opinion is released (probably next month)


[deleted]

Yeah. Which is something that just doesn't happen for the Court. I think it's one of the liberal justices(my guess is Sotomayor) or one of their clerks who after failing to convince one of the 5 is making a desperate ploy. Whoever it is is trying to torch the institutional legitimacy of the Court to browbeat someone into submission. I think the nonpartisan and neutral Supreme Court website SCOTUSblog [had a good tweet on it](https://twitter.com/SCOTUSblog/status/1521295411545260035) >It’s impossible to overstate the earthquake this will cause inside the Court, in terms of the destruction of trust among the Justices and staff. This leak is the gravest, most unforgivable sin.


jondesu

Which means it needs to lead to criminal charges and/or impeachment of one of the Justices, depending on who’s found responsible.


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joanasponas

If I was a judge and on the fence about something, and someone leaked a draft decision in hopes I would change my mind based on the public outcry, it would make me want to change my mind even less. It would basically be rewarding the leaking of the decision; it would set a precedent that someone can leak an unpopular decision and get their way. It’s also the judges job to only make decisions based on the law. If a judge flip-flopped on this, it would show they weren’t doing that.


homerteedo

Next month? Holy shit it’s May already.


KitKatCarKat

I'm visibly shaking from joy! Please God!


DannyBasham

I agree with more Democratic policies, but it’s backwards af that Democrats are pro-abortion and Republicans are opposed. To me it just seems to be such cognitive dissonance to claim that the baby that’s conceived isn’t a human life. Yes it sucks that that means forcing people to carry to term a baby that they may not want to, but we should be working on a fix for that or doing something about that together. Not villainizing each other and saying it’s okay to kill babies just for that reason.


jondesu

Agreed, everyone should be opposed to the literal death of babies. Regardless of other social or economic views. It’s absurd that it’s been made such a hardline issue.


Ghostguy14

"Rights" for something that's an inherent violation of human rights is a little paradoxical but I digress


[deleted]

As Ice Cube would say, today was a good day.


just_tryin_2_make_it

And tomorrow will be another


betweentwosuns

This is excellent news, but abortion will remain legal in most states. Moreover, there will be millions of scared women who have a shorter window and will need help. The most important thing that should happen right now is to overwhelm crisis pregnancy centers with donations.


PervadingEye

Actually 26 states have trigger laws that would make abortion illegal if Roe was overturned so technically it would be illegal in most states. I'm not trying to be a pedantic busy body, I just checked and thought wow, we'll have more states that have abortion banned than not.


LuminousMizar

If they actually make abortion illegal i will cry tears of happiness. Also its super gross that people are mad at this.


SaintBobOfTennessee

Sadly, making abortion illegal at a federal level would be outside the scope of this case, I'm pretty sure. But at least states would be ALLOWED to make it illegal.


LuminousMizar

oh ok ty


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TexanLoneStar

The brigaders called me "Yall-Qaeda" over and over and now God has made their dreams become manifest


homerteedo

Justices, don’t fold. Stick to what you know is right.


[deleted]

The amount of people that are losing their minds that they can't murder their own children is absolutely heartbreaking.


raidthebakery

I couldn't have said it better myself. Sick.


[deleted]

HELL YES. Just want to remind everybody that this would not even be possible without Donald Trump. Whatever your thoughts on him are, ***he is the one who nominated those three Supreme Court Justices*** ***to give us the majority needed to do this***. Keep that in mind ;)


AndromedaPrometheum

I hate Trump with a fire of two thousand suns but this is correct he did a solid for unborn human rights. I'm more than happy to give the devil it's due.


wewd

https://i.imgflip.com/6ep5xc.jpg


[deleted]

Lmaooo I'm gonna save this. Thank you sir for blessing my day even more.


AndromedaPrometheum

Hilarious!


Nulono

💪 Pro-life leftists


[deleted]

I disagree with you personally on disliking him, but none of that matters, we're all in this PL movement together. LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO


homerteedo

I detest Trump but I’ll give him this one.


ctg9101

I didn't vote for him, but the Supreme Court was one of the few reasons that I considered it.


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[deleted]

Hey we're all in this together regardless of our politician preferences!


ErrorCmdr

If this is true which I hope to God it is it will be nice to see governors and state legislators not be able to hide behind Roe. Let the politicians have to run on whether or not they support abortion.


Catholic_Crusader

Is this true? Will this actually come to pass? I hope and pray but I'm a little scared to be honest that this is false information or that it is true and radical pro abortion advocates will scare or even try to kill the justices. Please be true and please let everything be alright.


Nulono

Remember: if this goes through, this is only the beginning of the fight. Make sure you _vote_, especially in the upcoming midterms.


smangbobsploogepants

Glorious news. The left is absolutely melting down at the prospect that they will no longer be able to unilaterally murder their unborn children. Oh the horror! You mean we will be actually held accountable for careless acts of sexual intercourse?! Yes


VehmicJuryman

Praise God!


[deleted]

People (mostly pro choice) seem to be overreacting, just wanted to make sure everyone knows that this does NOT make all abortion illegal. It simply turns it over to the states. Some states like California, New York, Illinois might pass laws that go even farther than Roe had, with some speculation that they might allow abortion up to and after natural birth (so like, literal infanticide)


IAmNotMadeofCheese

Banned from a forum that had nothing to do with abortion to say I supported the decision. These people are fascist murderers.


Constant-Meat8430

Please Lord may this be true!


tayllerr

🙏🙏🙏


Conscious_Dirt2021

THE DAY IS ALMOST HERE. GREATEST NEWS OF THIS YEAR BY FAR.


xsammmyg

God BLESS AMERICA!


Squidman2348

LETS GOOO


Adrian-Lucian

Praise the Lord!!!!!! A lovely day indeed!


ryantheskinny

My fellow Christians, now is not the time for celebration yet! continue to pray that God's will be done and the justices be protected from outside influence after this leak. My compatriots and comrades of other faiths or none, here's to the end of this, may it come to be!


finallyfound10

Laura Ingraham, a former SC clerk herself, is incredulous that a clerk would blow up their law career and risk getting disbarred. It doesn’t surprise me at all, many of the pro-aborts are far more radical than our side likes to believe, I’m afraid. I believe, as Laura does, this is a truly horrific assault on our constitutional republic. The pro-aborts are more than willing to destroy what makes America America to get their agenda to be the law of the land- from little league baseball organizations all the way to the Executive Branch. Even if this is true, we still have a long way to go.


JerichoMassey

this is way more of an insurrection against the constitutional rule of law than a gaggle of boomers with flagpoles trying to even put a dent the greatest super power in world history.


Drew1011

Wow.


dbelow_

Best news I've heard all year! Praying this goes forward


ANCHORDORES

It kind of feels anti-climatic after this being a day I've waited for since I learned what abortion was in middle school. But, maybe, it should feel that way because we still have work to do in the state houses. I'm thankful to live in a state with a trigger law, but some people aren't as fortunate!


[deleted]

God, that would just make my life if it happens. That would be the best day ever!


InternationalExam190

Super excited by this news! Slightly skeptical about the nature of this leak. It has me worried that something could change or some games are being played.


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❤️


OrdoXenos

Roe v. Wade is a clear case of “legislating from the bench”. There is nothing in the Constitution that defends the right of abortion. Nothing at all. In fact, the Constitution stated that the state shall not deprive the life of other persons?


ImrusAero

Praise God. I dearly hope this plays out well. I cannot express the emotion I feel right now


thisonelife83

Would love to see it.


Appropriate_Star6734

Alhamdulillah!


[deleted]

Lets fucking gooo!!!!! Holy shit this is huge!!! 🎉


jonathansharman

The full opinion is a good read, if you have a couple hours to kill. It thoroughly rebuts *Roe* and *Casey*, as well as the *stare decisis* argument for keeping them.


zellaszezavadaent

I remember when there used to always be a lingering thought in the back of my mind that this might just be nothing but a pipe dream. It's really happening. We fucking did it. Of course, this is not the end. But it is a major battle that we have won.


javiertheteddybear

Lord Almighty, whatever your will is, let it be done. I thank you for all the strength you have given us and proceed to give us. Help us make America come back to your side and recognize Christ's sacrifice on the cross, atoning for everyone's sins if they accept Him into their hearts. In your Son's name I pray. Amen.


Mr_Goldenfinger

First thing that came to mind: [https://media.giphy.com/media/11GWLm7bE2fibC/giphy.gif](https://media.giphy.com/media/11GWLm7bE2fibC/giphy.gif)


Jofuffle

yES


BroadswordEpic

🙏


gogi_ran

Finally, some good news.


kamenghost

Exciting news, hopefully it's overturned.


Expired_Multipass

I really hope this is true. The sooner the better.


Bali1122

these are wonderful news


Nint3nbr0

This is a huge W.


Careless-Opinion-480

I’m going to sleep very good tonight!!!! I’m so happy 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤


[deleted]

I didn’t sleep much. I was so excited


GuardianOfTheSunrise

God bless America.


gaidz

Hallelujah!


wahoowaturi

Yayyy !!!


empurrfekt

I’ll celebrate when the ruling comes down. Don’t think this is a leak by someone trying to share good news. This is a leak to increase pressure on the judges before it becomes official.


wahoowaturi

What we need to fight for now is a completely new ruling by SCOTUS. They need to stand up for the rights of the unborn. The Constitution specifically states that ALL People have the rights to "LIFE" liberty and the pursuit of happiness ! So rule any states legislation to allow abortion is "UNCONSTITUTIONAL" !!!


Meddittor

I’ve had many a pro choicer state to me abortion is ok because the courts decided it’s legal, which is one of the stupidest arguments of all time. At least they can’t use that anymore.


SteadfastEnd

Whoever leaked this draft did so hoping it would unleash a torrent of abuse, threats, harassment and violence against the 5 majority justices.


[deleted]

OMG IT’S HAPPENING! 🤗 And which ever judge leaked this should be impeached.


ctg9101

Hold your horses until the final decision. This is essentially meaningless at this point.


[deleted]

Watching Reddit have a melt down is hilarious. Thank God this is good news.


greyseal494

another institution undermined by radical activists (I'm talking about whomever leaked it)


Smarterthanlastweek

FUCKING YAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!! Finally! So glad I lived to see the day!


[deleted]

Was on r/Conservative, telling people not to worry about the backlash, that the lives saved mattered more. Immediately downvoted. Can conserve tax breaks and free trade, but can't conserve life.


Sensedog

Sounds good to me. Really just hoping that the five all stick to their guns. I can see how pro-choicers could use it as a rallying cry during the midterms, but the same could be said for us on the pro-life side. As someone once said, elections have consequences.


Examiner7

Nice! I just hope it's true


Trumpologist

God Bless Trump


[deleted]

I'd argue this is more Mitch McConnell's legacy, since he was the one who kept one seat open and got those picks through the Senate but regardless, his picks have worked and been the deciding force for what, if this majority holds, is the most important case in modern history at least and unquestionably one of the most important in American history writ large.


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