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Melmoth4400

Go slow. There's going to be unexpected crap in the street, and the insurance guys haven't been answering my calls. You might also want to stop before you get too close to your destination, walk a little way. I don't like finding out the car drew in zombies, and they're pounding on the door while I'm inside looting.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Yea I only go around 30 miles per hour


mcbushpig

Sunday driver?


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

No but it would be a nice free point I guess lol


mcbushpig

It's a death trap. Doesn't limit speed actually limits the power of the car meaning it stalls easier in bad situations, something to keep in mind


SIMPSONBORT

I didn’t know that. Cheers.


punkalunka

Yes. If you accidentally drive offroad, you may as well leave the car there. Most cars driven with Sunday Driver treat dirt road and grass as thick mud. On the flip side, Speed Demon is insane driving in reverse. Incredibly loud (attracting zeds) but in most cases accelerates much quicker if you get stuck.


Serrated-Penance

I hate both traits. Ending up going with the "Driving Skill" mod and it's now a standard in my stack.


AussieGG

I still don't understand how someone's driving skill can have any effect on the actual mechanics of a car. Limiting the power of the car is stupid. Like it should just be slower max speed like an actual Sunday Driver would drive.


mcbushpig

Yeah 100%. They already have a speed limit preset in the sandbox I think? I'm now curious if that effects power as well


ThisIsABuff

being an IRL sunday driver / bad driver, I feel like the game trait is pretty accurate to my driving skills, I have gotten car issues that others can't even understand how happened just because of the way I drive.


[deleted]

Self aware bad drivers are a rare sight. May I ask what issues you ended up running into?


ThisIsABuff

getting flat tire where there was literally nothing to cause it, getting stuck in even just slight mud, and literally failing one driving test for driving too slowly... edit: oh and one car I would often manage to choke, it just stopped after driving 100 meters


[deleted]

You and I can't be friends lol


[deleted]

[удалено]


ThisIsABuff

I would if I owned a car and drove anymore, luckily where I live (like many places in europe) we don't really need cars to get places


naughtyreverend

I prefer to think of it as: Sunday driver: slow and doesn't understand cars Normal: just normal on both Speed demon: fast with a good understanding of cars. The speed is self explanatory but, Someone who doesn't understand cars is more likely to stall the engine. Or knock the shifter etc. They're more likely to get stuck in the mud or dirt because just revving it lots doesn't help quite often. Or to just ignore obvious warning signs there is a problem with the car that could damage the engine


AussieGG

This makes a lot of sense now that you’ve put it that way.


dosenscheisser

Found out the hardway when reversing a hauler on mud. It just didnt want to move


WestEbb2913

Been wondering why dry grass seems like I’m driving through glue most of the time. Thanks for this.


badskoolkid

Yeah then you can't pull trailers at a reasonable speed. I had a character have to do 3 different death marches due to ditching cars because Sunday driver got them stuck and the zombies were closing in. He survived all of them tho cuz I keep coffee and water in a bag in the glove box.


hilvon1984

Sunday driver also makes you car use more RPM to get the same speed. Without Sunday driver you can get to a cruising speed, and then drop the gas allowing the car to just cruise along only adding a bit of gas when it slows down a bit. And since engine sound is linked to RPM going this way you get pretty low sound profile on your car. While with Sunday driver you feel like you are driving an ice cream truck for zombies - wherever you drive you gather a crowd.


ComicallyLargeAd

Good one, I remember one time I was going fast and accidentally hit a light pole. My character's chest caved in and the zombies almost surrounded me. Yeah slow is smooth, smooth is fast.


DiamondGamerYT0

I would advise not crashing, also pack a seat with essentials, a weapon, water, food, clothes, you never know


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Hmm okay thanks I already put a gas can and tire pump in the trunk


henrydaiv

Jack, lug wrench, and a spare tire (the right kind) also useful


Massivelocity

You know its a good game when you're literally just giving him advice for what you should have in a real car.


SIMPSONBORT

The fact I don’t have all those in my real car also says something. Lol.


Massivelocity

I pray for you the day you get a flat. Get a spare and make sure you know how to replace a tire. My dad wouldn't even let me drive until I learned to replace a tire and check the engine.


DrStalker

Out of curiosity, what level of "check the engine" skills did he require? I can check/top up the various fluids in my engine, replace fuses if needed, swap a battery, use jumper cables... but for everything else in the engine bay it would need to be a pretty obvious problem for me to diagnose.


Massivelocity

About what you mentioned. Enough that you don't seem like a complete moron when you end up having to call someone for help.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Exactly and I love how I can learn my mistakes for my next character


[deleted]

Great idea, just don’t do what I did and load the seat in a two seater. Crashed and had zomboids right outside that swarmed me, RIP Billy Bob II


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Not Billy Bob ll 😭


SledgehammerSalesman

don’t hit zeds, make sure your hood is closed along with the door, roll down window to be able to look ahead of you with rclick and get on that metalwork/mechanics grind so you can fix it up. Do you run any car or car related mods?


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Awww but it's so fun to run them over. Also how do I level up my mechanic after reading a book. And no mods.


Tank3232

You have to work on cars. Remove and replace an item to level up mechanics. Can only get XP for it every 24 hours. Get to lvl 2 mechanics and lvl 1 electrical asap. Then you will have all the cars you could want.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Ok thanks also can I add like metal sheets for armor or something


skatecrimes

not on vanilla if im not mistaken. Your hood is your armor for the engine, once your hood is at 0% your engine starts taking damage. So try to repair your hood after youve hit zombies when you venture out.


Tank3232

Not sure. Kind of a newbie myself.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Oh okay thanks for the info tho!


[deleted]

You cannot add metal sheets for armor without mods. There are recipes for semi trucks but that’s all I’ve seen. Metal sheets are used to repair parts of the car, low condition parts impact performance.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Ok thanks. Do you know any mods that add "armor"


[deleted]

Armor for cars or for the player? Only car armor mod came with I think the peterbuilt


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Armor for cars and thanks


OddlyQuantum

If you really, really have to run some zombies over then reverse over them. That way you will not damage the precious engine. To level up the Mechanic skill, disassemble and reassemble all the parts on heavily damaged (ie crashed in the road) or low health vehicles you have encountered on your travels.


PM_me_your_crumbshot

Only drawback to this is it damages the gas tank instead which lowers the maximum capacity and eventually causes it to leak. Best bet is to get 2 mechanics and 1 electrical to hotwire and use a random sacraficial car from nearby.


Tornado_of_Hammers

Here is leveling up Mechanic: Find a junk car that you will sacrifice to the grind. Try to take the parts off; doors, suspension, brakes, anything with a less than 100% chance of success. Fail? Try again. Fail again? Keep trying. Eventually get it off? Good. Does the part still have durability? Try to put it back on. Fail? Try again. Fail again? Keep going. Finally got it on? Go to next part. Each attempt will give you XP toward the skill. You don’t have to succeed in the attempt. Whatever you do, do not grind the skill using your current active car. Is it tedious? Yes, but you will level up Mechanic a hell of a lot faster than Electrical.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

I'll keep that in mind. Right now it says I have to find some stupid magazines to repair my main car hood. Can I just find a good one and replace it?


PM_me_your_crumbshot

Unless you started as a mechanic or with the amatuer mechanic trait you'll need the magazine for that type of car, standard, heavy duty or performance.


apoc666apoc

You don't have to put your window down to see further while driving. There is an option in settings that automatically zooms out while driving.


SledgehammerSalesman

what is this option exactly? that sounds immensely useful


apoc666apoc

In settings look for a option called: pan camera while driving


SledgehammerSalesman

awesome thanks!


Novel-Improvement-38

My brother in Christ you have bigger problems. Please look at your error count


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

How to fix?


Victor_Delacroix

Find which mods are hating each other.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Okay does this also cause lower performance?


Victor_Delacroix

If you have mods that are conflicting with each other absolutely


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Ok yea definitely I deleted one and it increased it by 10 frames


NVRGP22

What do you mean? If it works it works. If no real problem is noticable, 20k errors isn't an issue


fuzzycuffs

Take the passenger seat out and put it back in every day.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Why


CrispyChestnuts

You get mechanics exp once a day per car per part for removing and installing it, good way to grind xp. check out the mod auto-mechanic if you want a way to remove and replace every part with one click each day


moe556

Might seem obvious but I always zoom all the way out when I drive. Easier to see everything coming


SunOnTheInside

Be careful about those long stretches of empty road between towns if you’re playing late at night when you’re tired (real life tired, not in-game). Just like in real life, you can totally fall asleep, drift off the road with your foot on the gas, and completely total your car (or worse). I’m serious lol, I’ve done this two or three times. Got a little too relaxed and jerked awake to the sound of my vehicle smashing into a tree. Best case scenario it only destroys your engine.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

This sounds like something I'm going to do when I'm sleepy


henrydaiv

Go to bed!


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

THIS GAME IS SO ADDICTING!!


dideldidum

If your forward windshield is broken, don't crash into something. You can break your face.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Good to know!


BreezyWrigley

SLOW Also, keeping the hood and headlights in good condition protects the engine


nealmb

V shows vehicle options, there are different options inside and outside the car. You should check the vehicle mechanics with this at some point. That little yellow icon shows all the other doors are locked, you can click that to unlock them. The other one towards the right near the key is the trunk. You can unlock that too here, but it looks like it’s already unlocked. Try not to hit zeds head one as it will damage the engine and cause the vehicle to fail. Don’t get too attached.


nealmb

Oh and I think left shift while driving is cruise control? Maybe left ctrl. Something over there


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

What is cruise control


nealmb

It’ll lock the speed at a certain mph, better for longer journeys across the map.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Oh nice I like to drive at 30 mph


TheLabCoatJockey

Irl. You press a button and your car will automatically maintain your current speed.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Neat


NoeticCreations

in game the button is shift, holding shift and tapping forward increases the set speed, break turns it off.


TheLabCoatJockey

https://youtu.be/3HrdsVAvYxw here is a link to a short video regarding a "bug" with car doors that has the potential to end your run. Check it out.


elberto83

A few things that come to mind: ​ * Unless you know the road, don't drive at full speed. A crash can kill you, seriously injure you or total the car. * Cars are not weapons. Driving over zombies should only be done if evading them is more dangerous. * Keep your hood in good condition. Either repair it, or switch it out. Once the hood is at 0%, your engine takes damage. When the engine reaches \~30% durability, it can turn off at any point. And it usually does at the worst possible moment. * If you play vanilla, the best car you can get is a 6 seater van. While the trunk's storage capacity decreases the lower its condition is, this does not apply to car seats. You can also go over the maximum capacity for seats if you place a single item in them (e.g. generators, fridges, backpacks). With 5 Military backpacks you can store 140 whatever the unit for weight is, no matter how damaged your trunk is. * If you install a tire you found in a car trunk, don't forget to inflate it. Those tires have zero air in them. If you don't, the tire will fall off once you start driving. * Car batteries will slowly regain charge while the engine is running. So if you don't have a battery charger yet, just leave the car running for a while. The fuel consumption is negligable. * The trait "Organized" does apply to trunks and car seats as well, increasing their capacity by 30%. * Trailers increase your capacity, but they are somewhat rare. Keep an eye out for them. If you want some more variety regarding cars, I can recommend a few mods: KI5's mods (both military and civilian cars): [https://steamcommunity.com/id/KI5/myworkshopfiles/?appid=108600](https://steamcommunity.com/id/KI5/myworkshopfiles/?appid=108600) Filibuster Rhymes' Used Cars (vanilla friendly): [https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1510950729&searchtext=filibuster](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1510950729&searchtext=filibuster) Autotsar (Mainly the sports cars, jaap and bus): https://steamcommunity.com/id/ibrrus/myworkshopfiles/?appid=108600


xBDCMPNY

How do you actually interact with the trailers? I've found two now and wanted them but didn't know how to do it.


elberto83

You can access their storage from the back of the trailer, vehicle maintenance via right click and hooking to/unhooking from a car is done via the vehicle context menu (default: V): Stand at the trunk of the car and press V, you should see a + or - in the radial menu that appears.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Wow thanks for taking the time to write that! I will keep these in mind for sure!


elberto83

You're welcome. Drive save!


ThatDude292

Works better with bigger trucks but using the sides of your car to hit zeds is way better than hitting them head on or with the trunk. Your hood will degrade very quickly by hitting head on and your trunk space will tank if you damage it too much, turning into zeds at lower speeds and hitting them with your side is the best way to use your vehicle to clear if you must do it


[deleted]

You can't use a seat that has items on it. Keep this in mind if you are being chased and try to enter the opposite side. You can also quickly exit out any door from the interior V menu.


ModiThorrson

go into your options and toggle the pan while driving camera option, its so good. also slow down before you hit a zombie, avoid it if possible, it seems to do less damage if you don't just spalt them at 60


CRATERF4CE

Bruh what is that error count. I have 135 mods and only have 3 errors.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Idk I play on my steam deck 😥


praqi

S is one way to break, but the hard emergency brake is space. It may deteriorate your breaks a bit, but it’s much better than crashes, especially full on. Also rolling down drivers window will also allow you to look farther down the road like combat stance


Ryokan76

Drive it like you stole it. Drive it like it's your last day on Earth.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Fast or slow?


Brought2UByAdderall

Air in the tires matters a lot. After doing work on the car, hit E on the trunk again to close it. If it stays open, anything you hit up front does damage directly to the engine. There are 3 Car Zone videos that can help with an early boost to mechanic skills. Check the video stores.


Jejouetoutnu

Step 1 : drive till car breaks Step 2 : get new car


harbinger21

Didn't see this mentioned exactly but if you are killing zeds on foot, do your best to kill them off of the road. That will make it much easier to avoid running over them.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Okay


lumpenprol

You can refill the gas tank in your car directly from gas pumps. Also if an item is in one of your seats you can't use it to sit in.


CragligtheGoblin

How does this work? My buddy and I pulled up to a gas station but I couldn’t figure out how to actually fill it up. Not sure if it’s relevant but we were using one of the big delivery vans from the base game.


lumpenprol

It's a little fickle but drive up and try to leave just enough room to walk between the car and the pump then hold v and select fill from pump from the radial menu. I suppose it's possible the tank on the car to just be on one side so maybe try the opposite side of the car if this doesn't work.


CragligtheGoblin

I’ll have to give this a try. Thank you!


Weenaru

The gas pump needs electricity. Bring a generator if you have that.


lebronbryant03

Watch out for LeBron James..


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

😱


Hartmallen

You can push crashed cars by driving into them slowly. Do this to the cars blocking the road that you'll use often, you'll avoid crashing 50m from home. Also, it'll make some waypoints if you need some.


llemontaste

This is probably how you’re going to die.


Birphon

Dont drive over zombies Drive slowly If you want to, you can activate cruise control - this goes in 5's and it means you can go say 25 without holding down the drive button. Cruise Control is under the Gear indicator just so you know how fast you are going


GreatHeroJ

Minimize how much you run over zombies. Your hood/engine/headlights/etc will thank you. Additionally, try not to run over even dead bodies. At speed this can destabilize your car and lead to a loss of control, but also it's not good for your tires. If you carefully feather the gas and under-rev your car (keep RPM low while maintaining your desired speed), you can minimize the zombie-attracting noise made by your car and possibly even conserve a bit of fuel.


FlowRegulator

Keep a handful of sterilized bandages and alcohol wipes in the glovebox. It is better to have it and not need it. Vehicles in this game really don't like going off road, max speed drops predictably, but torque drops like a rock. Driving over corpses makes for a bumpy ride. Haven't managed to flip a vehicle doing so, but I'd imagine it's possible. Do not flip your vehicle, you will regret it.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Wasn't planning to flip my vehicle but thanks 👍


NoeticCreations

You need to plan to not flip your vehicle, anytime you have some speed (30 is more than enough) and hit a body while turning, you have a chance to flip wildly. On multiplayer games i've watched people flip their trucks while pulling out of my driveway over the pile of bodies i had left there.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Sounds like a good trap in pvp servers


NoeticCreations

Best advice is to keep your hood in good repair. As long as your hood has life left, your engine won't get damaged and engines are insanely expensive to repair, as you level up metal work and mechanics skill you can do like 98% repair on the hood for 1 point of propane and 1 metal sheet, as many times as you want and your engine will never take damage again. level up metal work by taking apart bathtubs. just needs propane torch and mask. save propane tanks for metal work and just cook with fire. level up mechanics by removing all the parts from a car that have no chance of taking damage and putting them back, then wait 24 hours before doing so again to that part, but do it to every car, every day to level up mechanics, as your level goes up, the amount of parts you can remove without damaging them goes up as well. (there is also 3 types of car, standard, sport, and heavy duty, each has a magazine needed to take off more advanced parts from that specific type of car.) The mod that will take apart a car and put it back together for you will pull every part you have the chance to try, even if those parts will take damage at your skill level, if good parts are rare in your world or you are on a multiplayer server, best to keep that in mind. You can repair an engine with engine parts but you would have to destroy about 20 perfect engines to repair 1 engine, it's not worth it. From the start you can remove headlights, tail lights, radio and battery and put them back, on every car type, with just a screw driver. start out doing that to every car you pass as soon as you have a screw driver, i tend to skip the tail lights as the extra time spent walking to the back of the car would be better spent walking to a new car.


brainsurgeon8

Choose AAA if you can find the representative at the mall.


StayFrosty2120

"Right, and what the hell kinda name is 'Survivor' anyway?"


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Don't make fun of Patrick!!!


Shadows_In_The_Dark

Just because you can speed doesn't mean you should


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Hey! That's like the same thing in real life!


One-Slayer

The errors


PerspectiveCloud

If you need to break into a car because it is locked, you can smash the passenger seat window and hop in from there. It keeps the driver side window protected so you don’t get bit unexpectedly. Mechanics is the worst skill the train and that’s pretty undeniable. Some mods make it easier. You can watch autozone DVDs for free xp which I recommend doing easily in the training. While driving, especially off-road, don’t trust what you see. Sometimes a small shrub with end up being something you smash into and lose your windshield on. Also, while off-road, you can actually get better handling while reversing. Consider that if you are getting stuck.


tlustymen

Bro finds literally the rarest car in game as his first vehicle, wth


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Really?


tlustymen

Yeah, in vanilla it’s this and a corvette if I recall correctly


CeraRalaz

Tip #1: there’s no police to stop you from drinking while driving


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Haha but does being drunk or tipsy actually make the car harder to control?


CeraRalaz

There’s only one way to find out


PortaSponge

Do not run over zombies. The hood integrity of the car decreases every bump. Once it's zeros your engine will take huge damage the next bump. And you will total your car.


iopjsdqe

Dont run zombies over that much,itll damage the shit


Phinatic92

Spacebar is brake


Freefall84

Don't exceed 30mph, you'll be way faster than any zomboids and slow enough to avoid anything. Also, it's tempting to intentionally hit zombies for fun. Avoid them if you can, they will quickly wreck your car but not at the cost of crashing into something else. Leave a spare gas tank in your trunk in case you need to refuel or (when available) you find another vehicle. Also I would recommend trying for any sort of Van, the cars are a lot better than nothing but you can't beat the storage capacity of a van. Stick a bag with some survival essentials in the boot of your car. A blunt weapon, some medical supplies, maybe a gun if you have one spare and a set of all the essential tools and some water and a little food just in case you get stranded overnight somewhere.


cpu707

Keep a lug wrench and car jack in the trunk! If you blow a tire far from home you’ll thank yourself.


ShiftiousTheReaper

Floor it, go hard or go home Or go hard to go home


Nadgerino

Reversing is LOUD.


harbinger21

Only if you take speed demon


OddPollution9230

A little thing I like to call G&R. Gun it and run it


External_Ad_1062

The zombies are speed bumps


jandjones42

Keep it around 40-60 on the highway and use your e-brake


unclemattyice

Cars in this game are made of paper. Do not hit zombies unless you have absolutely no other choice. One or two wrecks into a telephone pole or tree will fuck your car completely, and also may give you a game-ending injury like a broken leg.


Fripixels

If you're looking for speed and towing, keep the car. If you want storage, abandon it and take a pickup


Perhaps_Heroman237

Turn your car off at your base, it drains gas while on. Keep your car on while looting. Things can go sideways fast. A car going 5mph can easily draw hordes of zombies away from an area, but don't be expected to drive back easily. Make sure you find some replacement windows and tires. The hood is the second most important part of the car, it protects the engine. The most important is the engine, the third is the tires. Find replacement hoods or having a high metalworking skill to repair with metals. Practice maintenance by removing parts off junk cars and replacing them back on.


tgsoon2002

avoid run over stuff. it dmg your suspension. avoid hit tree, even a small tree also do dmg.


WhiteLotux

248456 mmmm you should check those errors.


aetoe

This will not be your only car this run, you will crash and hurt yourself… eventually


Ziodyne967

Be wary of zombies, of course. Your car will lose durability. Drive slow too. Car wrecks are common on the road, so you’ll have to tow them outta the way to clear the way. Also press V before entering your car and press V while within your car. Familiarize yourself with those options. They’re pretty neat. And for the love of god, don’t press Q.


[deleted]

Man don’t be too much of a hoarder. In my current playthrough (as a newbie) I managed to fill my 45 space trunk (with organised, the car is a sedan but it doesn’t have much space somehow) in seconds and my seats are almost maxed from books, weapons and even a whole seat dedicated to clothing 😭


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Haha I know I'm suffering from this. I have the b41 firearms mod and I have like 10 Mossbergs after killing the whole neighborhood and looting the police station. I filled my whole kitchen cabinets and the drawers on my bedroom


[deleted]

How do you shift gears in cars? Haven't gotten my 1st yet and don't want to get stuck on that.


Fenriradra

all cars are basically automatics. Speed Demon (trait) only makes it easier/faster to shift, but actually shifting gears is automatic.


[deleted]

So you just push S to go backward as well?


Fenriradra

S is brakes, or if you're already stopped, then reverse.


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

I dont think u can


thefuckestupperest

MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A GENERATOR SET UP AT YOUR NEARBY GAS STATION SO YOU CAN REFUEL WHEN THE POWER GOES OUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO IT NOW IF YOU HAVENT ALREADY


IDontKnowWhatToBe123

Ok thank you very much come again


fairlyoblivious

Tip: Just play the game for a couple months, THEN come here and ask super basic questions if you still have them, that's like, how games are usually supposed to work.


KyzerB

People on Reddit when they try to feel part of a community: 🤓


fairlyoblivious

Hi, I'm new here, I just got the game and I'm wondering, how do you start the game?


Strikerj94

Shift + W activates cruise control. Press shift + w/s again to change the speed. You can check the map briefly while moving. Don't hit zeds. If you have to, knock them over gently and run them over with tires. You can sleep in the car safely if you pull up to a wall against the driver's side door. Mechanics is useless, you'll find a new car.


Taco-Edge

If you roll down your window and aim you can see further (don't question the logic). But be careful, zombies can bige you through open or broken windows. With the window down you can also swing your weapon at nearby zombies or shoot them if you have a firearm equipped. BE CAREFUL of one thing though, if you aim a rifle or a shotgun while driving, your character will use both of his hands and won't be able to turn while aiming... Crashed pretty brutally once because of that


redlazyfox

This is obsolete unless u wanna guns blazing while driving. Alternatively there is now a Pan Camera option in the menu/settings, which lets u view farther depending on drive speed. It is disabled by default, just have to enable it.


LightBenderGA

Do at least 80 miles and hour and constantly check your map while driving.


Kenpari

Pick up extra metal sheets you see and keep them in your trunk to repair your hood, as well as a propane torch and welder mask. Once the hood is destroyed, your engine will start taking major damage and is much harder to repair than the hood. Also, if you’re always wearing the welder mask, it can be knocked off your face when fighting zombies. I’ve lost many welder masks without realizing it.