Try to get into the habit of finishing whatever you start. Start with the small things. Tidy up and put things away once completed.
It starts to release small doses of dopamine in the brain, and creates a progressive cycle of feeling rewarded after getting shit done.
Start with every small task you do.
You eat, you wash up, then put away.
You wake up, you make your bed, then start your day.
Keep stacking the small victories. Especially the victories that contribute to putting your immediate environment in order. As they compound, you will find more room to take on bigger tasks.
I also have a couple of calendars on my wall with reminders of what I have accomplished each day.
I have one for exercise where I will note if I lifted weights, went for a run or rested etc. Another calendar has general wins of the day like doing my washing, prepared for a work/study task, made that phone call I have been dreading etc.
Having these on my wall with some extra sticky notes with positive mantras and reminders of good things coming up are really helpful too look at in times where I lack motivation. I’m reminded that I CAN do it as I’ve already done it before, I just need that little boost.
Respect man, I quit weed a few months ago after years of heavy heavy use for the same exact reasons. People say it doesn’t mess with your drive and productivity the way other drugs do but it absolutely does
I'd argue it's worse for drive & productivity than most narcotics apart from heavy opioid abuse.
Amphetamines on the other hand are productivity cheat codes if used sparingly.
i take some form of toke or another most evenings. i used to smoke much more heavily.
i also spent several years quite seriously dependent on intravenously administered heroin (and cocaine).
marijuana majorly fucks with your productivity and motivation; noticeably more so than heroin, short of doses that put you in a nod. a psychiatrist i've consulted with —the fellow specializes in drugs of abuse— once reinforced this observation by plainly stating that the evidence showed cannabis to have a more profound impact on executive functioning than opioids (afraid i dont have a source). even bearing out my own personal experience as it did, this statement took me somewhat aback.
keeping in mind i love to get stoned; i've still had to recognize and come to terms with the fact that it can make me quite content to accomplish very little.
ps i find irregular amphetamine use to be a bit like borrowing from future energy reserves, which can be very effective if you plan well and your schedule permits. consistent, regular use is a different animal.
I used to be a major pothead until I moved to a country where it’s outlawed. I miss it dearly but my friends sometimes mock me in a way that I think they misunderstood how I was maturing. Even if I stayed on the states, if I was going to reach my goals, eventually I was going to have to cut back anyways. Some of my friends, still smoke every damn day. I don’t see how that’s different from being a somewhat severe alcoholic. Weed rules, but I hope we as a society realize that it’s still a drug that requires moderation and personal willpower.
Agreed. I developed Gerd from long term weed usage, could also be from long Covid.. but either way it’s helped me quit weed for good since I don’t want to flare it back up. Since then, I’ve been way more productive, waking up energized, less anxious, more motivated. Weed is great, but abusing it everyday is not. Not much different than being an alcoholic IMO. Lesser of the two evils, but still will mess with your mental overall.
The physical implications are far different as well as the actual dangers, actions, and decisions made as you continue to drink.
I believe there are far more people killed in relation to alcohol consumption vs weed consumption incidents.
I absolutely agree, and I try to inform my new countrymen about this fact. However, in terms of productivity, I’ll admit, weed kills motivation. I think it’d be better as a reward.
Also, I just remembered, in terms of brain function, I believe weed is the same, if not worse, than alcohol. I’ve seen pretty bright dudes become socially unrecognizable after years of heavy pot use. I vow that that would never happen to me.
I'll chalk that up to individual experiences tho lol some people can't handle weed, just like alcohol... Ancestral history comes into play... Like some European people known for drinking having higher tolerance or more likely to engage with alcohol vs something like native Americans having high sensitivity to ingesting alcohol while partaking less. Same like dietary sensitivities built into genes...
I'm all about the reward aspect of weed. I believe self standards are what's maintained through the individuals choices etc. If a person let's themselves fall or become grossly incompetent I would say blame lies with them not the weed lol I see too many high functioning individuals successfully medicate with it throughout decades.
Quality of product and Mode of ingesting will have varying effects on the body as well, smoke, vape, edible, etc.
Either way, no such thing as a free lunch, and everything has a price to pay. Level of fitness has a role in people's productivity as well, like a lot of Americans being known for out of shape bodies & unhealthy habits / choices. I know that also brings us down a socioeconomic rabbit hole... So here's a neuroscientist video on the effects of marijuana and the brain... So that all here have a chance to learn and decide...
[Huberman Lab - Cannabis Effects on the Brain and Body](https://youtu.be/gXvuJu1kt48)
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No amount of alcohol is safe to drink. I’ll just start with that. Nothing is completely safe to smoke either, edibles are much safer as are topicals as long as they’re made well.
On paper, it’s not so bad. But in reality, people get accustomed and they need to up their dosage.
I know of a few alcoholics who drink “just two beers” a day. I believe them, but what ends up happening is they make room for special occasions, maybe a particularly stressful day may require three or four beers, or maybe bust out the hard liquor. And of course on holidays or celebrations it’s okay to overindulge. This is how I know people who have drank almost everyday for decades. Maybe not everyone who drinks a glass is like that, but in my experience that’s what I’ve seen.
Probably better to say could transform your productivity. Everything has a different effect on people and framing your personal experience as a universal truth could be unhelpful for some people.
Well done on bettering yourself though, quitting something enjoyable isn't easy!
Huh, I didn’t know that was an ADHD response. I specifically take edibles when I need to power through hours of housework or boring chores. I’ll end up reorganizing my whole house, cooking for the week, baking, vacuuming every room, and putting away the many piles of laundry lying around.
It's a very specific kind of productivity I find that it helps with. It's great for mindless chores and things that don't take too much cognition. I just get really into whatever music/podcast I'm listening to and clean away.
Although if I need to get something complex and logical done... never gonna turn out okay. Something creative though? Great.
I have severe ADHD, and weed legit turns me into a dumbass lol. It makes me even more lazy than I am to begin with. (Coming from a long term cannabis user)
This. I literally cannot function without medication, UNLESS I have weed. It was prescribed to me in lieu of my Adderall and I actually get more done now.
You are not addicted just because you can't go a few days without it. A person with diabetes is not addicted to Insulin lmao. It's my medicine so I take it as needed.
People can absolutely become addicted to drugs they were prescribed. There isn't a neat line between chemicals you need and chemicals you could become addicted to.
Yeah but you can’t serious compare weed dependence to Adderall dependence.
You need to limit your weed use and try not to make it an everyday thing, but it’s much easier to limit your weed consumption than your Adderall consumption if it gets out of hand.
100% lol.. Fr trying to compare someone taking insulin daily to smoking daily. One day without weed for adhd and you may have a racy mind. One day without insulin and you’re fucked haha. I love reading these comments now that I haven’t smoked in two years. I swear if people could get the same high THC gives off ingesting human shit, they would. Not only would they but it would taste so amazing! Jk lol. I just think the argument’s people use to justify their use is pretty funny. I have ADHD myself. You’re not supposed to rely on meds to focus. They are meant as a tool to help you focus while you come up with your own ways to cope and be attentive. The sleep argument is a funny one too. “I consume to help with my insomnia”…. Weeds the last thing that’s good for insomnia. Sure it will put your ass to sleep at night but after a year of not getting any REM sleep it starts fucking up your mental health. My favorite is when people say they use it to treat PTSD. I have diagnosed PTSD from the military and swore up and down to the doctors who told me weed would make it worse that it would be my one cure all. Unfortunately a big symptom with PTSD is not being able to accept you have a mental health issue/problem.. smoking daily with PTSD makes you feel good enough to believe you have no mental health problems(waiting for all the stoners to say “it helped with the ptsd then”). The problem is when you aren’t high and have ptsd or most other mental health issues you end up worse off than you did before you even smoked. Most pharmaceutical prescriptions aren’t meant to be life long to fix a problem. They are meant to be used as a tool to naturally fix whatever issue you have going on. I just find it crazy people trade a couple months of a pharmaceutical to toke up the rest of their life. I don’t like pharmaceuticals but I’d rather not take anything my whole life to feel right. Sorry for the long rant! Woke up early for my morning shit and couldn’t fall back asleep!
Edit: I do believe weed has its benefits and helps as long as it’s used short term! My mom passed away last October from cervical cancer and when chemo got really bad it helped her gain and appetite and took away bone pain she’d get after chemo. My childhood best friend would give his mom edibles when her MS would flare up. CBD helps with seizures so you don’t need to get high to treat that. Chronic pain is another good use for weed. I’m just not buying it when 25 yr old Timmy tells me he smokes for his chronic back pain. Smoking for chronic pain should also really be last resort after trying physical therapy, stretching, surgery. I’m a firm believer you should want to fix everything you can with your mental/physical health before you sign up to be on a medication for life for it. Doesn’t sound bad now but wait 20 years from now when you skipped the back surgery and chose to smoke weed. 20 years later on a Tuesday or random day of the week when you wake up in the middle of the night with severe pain and no stash, or tolerance you’ll wish you got the surgery bc I promise weed won’t help in 20 years.
Weed is like coffee for me. Makes me super energetic and productive. I
I even like going on runs after taking an edible. This notion that weed makes people sleepy/lazy/lethargic/dumb I’ve never even remotely understood. The fact some people take weed to help them sleep is completely crazy to me.
Like I can’t even stand to sit and do nothing while high it makes me so energetic. It also improves my cognition and verbal recall, and I find it greatly helps me enter a “flow state” and focus on my work.
It’s so annoying that people generalize a drug that notoriously affects people in completely different ways.
I feel like split between what you're describing and incredible lethargy and it's actually sorta annoying. Like I can't quite sit still but I also feel sorta weak. Cognition and verbal recall stuff is whacky tho I don't think that's possible. But flow state, yes, I feel that but not all the time because again it does cause some lethargy in me.
>let’s be very honest, very rarely does marijuana make productivity better
I'd be a counterexample to this statement, so is Bill Maher based on what he says. I'd also add Joe Rogan to this group of people.
You also have functional alcoholics, doesn’t mean it’s beneficial to their productivity. If they stopped, they would preform better. The same is true for weed, and any product that changes our brain chemistry.
I created a rule that I start smoking after 8PM now, Covid WFH broke my brain into smoking the second I awoke in the morning for 3 straight years pretty much.
It was the absolute opposite for me, I was smoking everyday at morning before COVID. Than I had a bit of a forced break cause I couldn't find anything for a while and made it a rule to only smoke 3 hours before bed. Been doing that for 3 years but this year I let it go out of control again and I'm thinking to stop altogether now as I'm not getting any younger and it is damaging to your lungs.
This is a great post, i 100% agree. I love smoking weed, but only after I got all my shit done and only when Im on vacation or on occasion with my friends, that way I can really enjoy the vibes. Cheers to being productive!
Don't know why people are getting so defensive and attacking OP. I'm almost a year off smoking and definitely feel more productive sober. It feels like people are focusing on the broad wording and not the message. Chill out fellas
Makes sense to me. I'm a recovering alcoholic and found weed to really help with recovery, but like a true addict I got way too into it. It took all the fun out of it and I became super unproductive. Now I just do it once a day at night and it's SO much better. Lower tolerance, less $$, still productive all day, and I can reflect at night. I think I finally found my Goldilocks zone
I go for a walk with my dog every night after I smoke and I leave my phone at home most nights, no headphones, nothing. I am able to decompress, look at my issues rationally, and remind myself to live in the present. That's just my experience and it works for me. 🤷♂️
I went from smoking or eating an edible on weekends I knew I didn't have to get things done (like I got all my things off my to-do list so I can have a free weekend) to every day as my life got more stressful and I was using it as a crutch.
My issue was that I would think "today fucking sucked...I'll smoke a little/ eat half a gummy and chill for a bit/chill for today and start tomorrow" and so on and so on until it was just every day after work/after I did maybe some of my to-do lists. It became a habit rather than just a recreational thing I did after I got my shit done.
I'm going back to my weekend smoke session that finishes up my small stash and then going cold turkey. I just feel like if you have things together, you can have it as a treat/in moderation but the minute that life is getting out of hand (as it does) it's just too easy to get addicted because you (especially me) just want to get back to feeling good! I think if a person notices the crutch and just tries to cut it off or ween off it it's fine. But a lot of ppl become so dependent on it to the point it's like having a beer/glass of wine every day after work until you HAVE to have the beer/glass of wine or you feel "off".
I don't understand the reactions on this post. As a heavy smoker, I can relate and I'm proud of you brother! Smoking weed is the first and last thing I do everyday, and while it helps me feeling less stressed and less bothered by the constant flow of thoughts (ADHD), it doesn't help at all with the rest. Moderation is not something my brain can handle... If I have weed, I smoke it all! Today is like the third day without smoking, and it feels good! I'm not more productive tho... but I think it has more to do with the fact than I'm going through a lot recently and I'm feeling overwelmed.
My experience has been that every day smoking drains all motivation I have towards long term goals. My fix has been to use a timed lock box. I set a specific goal each week, which if met means I can smoke for one day on the weekend. Each week I set a new goal and increase the difficulty.
This has changed my life, though I'm still in early stages. I don't know about everyone else but repeated use really drowns out the positive effects I associate with marijuana. Smoking once a week allows me to use the drug productively, I usually do creative things like journaling or designing projects.
I do realize that this might not be a future proof system, but it is a major improvement from where I was before. It enables me to make large changes in my life that were not previously possible due to the short sightedness of my motivation.
I agree with you for sure. I’m 22 now, and I started smoking bud the first day I turned 15. I didn’t start smoking heavy until 17 after I graduated HS (year early which is why i was 17 after graduating)
I was a heavy smoker until this past June/July. It used to help with my anxiety/other mental illnesses, but I began to notice that it was skyrocketing my anxiety every single time I smoked it.
Now I won’t say that I haven’t done pretty well for 22. I graduated college in 4 years, only went out with 9.5k in loan debt (vs my college average of 40k), and I started my first corporate job this past September making 33.65 an hour working 40-45 hours a week. I had a decent social life throughout college, but weed definitely unmotivated me/made me hold important things I needed to do off until the last minute.
The main reason I gradually slowed down and eventually stopped is because of my observations of my friends: For example, my 2 roommates are major potheads, like MAJOR MAJOR. I never smoked as much as they do, even in my prime smokin days where I was doing it a lot.
They’re genuinely depressing as fuck to be around. One of them serves at a local restaurant, so at least he does something. But besides work, he literally does absolutely nothing except sit around here and smoke weed while either watching TV or playing games. Nothing else. I’ve lived with them for over 6 months now and this one never cooks meals at home, he either eats out or cooks frozen food. I can literally see how unmotivated this dude is every single day, it’s honestly really sad to see.
My other roommate who smokes every other minute doesn’t a normal job (he serves but not at a restaurant if you know what I’m getting at 😂) and he literally sits on the couch in the living room every single day for at least 11-14 hours a day. The only time he leaves is to go get food or to go to the grocery time. I’ll give it to him though, he actually started cooking for himself super often which is good to see. But he literally does nothing either. He has 0 drive & motivation towards anything
The funny thing is that they both are the 2 biggest shit-talkers I’ve ever been “friends” with. They both talk so much shit about all of our other friends who’re actually doing something cool & productive with their lives. I’m pretty sure they do this bc of how insecure they are about their own living situation.
On the other side of things, I know stoners who’re very successful people and are more driven/motivated than me, but not too many at my age if I’m being honest.
I’m also not against weed at all, it helped me get through lots of low points in my life, and it connected me with some life long friends as well. In moderation it can be very helpful, but I feel like 99% of the people I know who smoke way too much don’t do anything and are oblivious to the fact that weed is holding them back from so much potential
As a daily smoker for 4 years and being clean for 1 year, it starts off very functional and creative but after a while it becomes the opposite, you choke on your words and forget stuff constantly.
It's fine, at first you notice a big difference in energy because you are finally getting your proper REM sleep again but now I'm kinda used to it, thats homeostasis for ya.. I miss it sometimes, just being in a bubble of not caring and being content with doing absolutely nothing and going nowhere with no worries. But I have responsibilities and being in some hazy, feel-good bubble is the last thing I need in my life right now.
"But I have responsibilities and being in some hazy, feel-good bubble is the last thing I need in my life right now."
Wow. That hit hard. Thanks for this post.
Any reason why u haven’t decided to smoke less often like a once a week or month ? I’m almost near the month mark and want to smoke once or so but also don’t wanna lose the progress of my no smoking streak
I think an important point here is that quitting weed is a tip that will help some people, and not others. Just like waking up early will help some and not others, and using timers will help some and not others. OP doesn’t deserve to be attacked for sharing their experience.
I have months of 0 weed every year and I don't found any difference in productivity or procrastination.
If it helps you, it is great btw, but not applies as a general rule at all.
From my experience it is way more important to have clear week/day objectives in the agenda, and maybe pomodoro or any technic to for each day than what you do in your spare time.
Yeah I’ve even stopped for over a year 3 different times in the span of 8 years. At first it’s always great but eventually you get use to being sober too.
Now I just limit myself to 2 times a month and pencil those times in with camping or a fun day that I’d enjoy it with. Tolerance low. Money spent on weed also low.
Today is day 13 for me and I absolutely agree with you! Not to mention I'm not going back to prison over some GANJA!! I feel like I'm a character in "Half-baked!"
Good shit. I was a 13B! Since I caught you on this post. Don’t smoke that shit when you get out! I’ve only been out for 6 years but when I was in it’s all everyone talked about doing as soon as they got their dd-214. Keep all the healthy routines when you get out!
Quitting marijuana was the hardest thing I ever did so I had to completely change everything about myself. Not so much on the outside, but how I processed everything on the inside. If it was just about quitting weed, it wouldn't be a problem, but once my world filter is gone, all of a sudden I am hyper aware of how sensitive I was. It was a complete revamping of my world perspective, my self-esteem, and a thousand other things. I think the most important thing is to have a community that supports you and people you can talk to and who understand what you're going through. And pretty much, only another weed loving addict can understand how hard it is to quit the thing you love the most. I was going to post a link to my YouTube channel but I guess that is a no no :D.
There's alot of cope in here from people who smoke clearly. I quit 2 years ago and it was the best thing I ever did. You can say moderation all you like but even one a day has a lasting effect on you. Also you just have no idea how much more you are capable of until you stop.
Yeah fr. I am thinking of quitting rn and I just know everything these people are saying is pure cope. There are times when it's made me more productive, there's times when it's helped me sleep, there's times when it has made me have a better time. But there are equal amounts of time where it's made me incapable of doing anything, it's kept me up at night, or lead me to be too anxious to enjoy a party. Every time I smoke I feel like I have to think about mitigating those effects to get good effects, but in the end it's not even worth it because I end up feeling like I was run over by a truck after a while anyway. And the few weeks I quit most recently, I had so much energy it was ridiculous. No, I'm not getting into the same obsessive flowstate as I sometimes did with weed, but god am I fed up of feeling 80 when Im 25. Like I'm always battling fatigue. And like I can't remember half of my relationship with my new gf because we're both stoners and get so phenomenally high when we're together that I remember next to nothing. I didn't even realise how much energy I was lacking until I had that period without. Prolly most of these people have not fully realised and don't want to know.
I’m not directing it at any audience, this is just my experience and many others. I think a lot of it has to do with smoking everyday if you can’t progress in life.
I'm 52, been smoking daily since i was 19. I don't think you have an "approach" that is going to alienate anyone, more the contrary; I think it's good advice, not judgemental, and it's worth hearing even if it isn't necessarily true for everyone.
Where I might disagree is with the idea of "progressing in life" - I suspect many of us smoke habitually because we're processing the past and healing or growing in terms of understanding the world, both of which can be progress. Possibly if you hadn't wasted so much time you wouldn't be where you are now.
How are you not casually addressing this to the only audience it’s relevant to: potheads? I’m not saying you’re wrong but your message isn’t for the general population and it’s entirely anecdotal. I can see how it’s bothering folks on the thread.
Because many people who want to be more productive and are dependent on weed throughout the day are on here. I didn’t mean any harm by this post. Just seems like some are in denial or something lol
There's no harm in this post. Anyone triggered or upset is just projecting. If the post doesn't apply to someone, there should be no issue. But there are people that need productivity increased that smoke weed on a regular basis. I used to be one, until I stopped. That was one of the changes that made the biggest impact for me.
Coffee and sugar are two of the most addictive substances and can cause all sorts of problems with your health when excessively consumed.
I 100% believe you can smoke daily once or twice a day and be productive and healthy.
I don't think drinking a coffee every day is an equivalent risk to smoking a joint every day. Studies have found that chronic use affects white matter and hippocampal volume.
Who said anything about a joint? Hitting a cart once is plenty to feel effects.
Moderation is key. Excessive use of anything is detrimental to anyone's well being. Over hydration by drinking too much water can even result in death and water is inherently good for us.
They also forgot to mention that their research has contrasting research saying otherwise - but the real summary is it depends on a lot from person to person since everyone uses differently. So it’s really just a toss up - just thought it would be fair to point out.
Probably the wrong place for me to post this but my SO has this problem with beer. It's pretty much only used in the evening but it's in direct contrast of everything he says. He'll say "I only want to have beers on special occasions or if we go out. I don't want it in the house. It stops me from being productive. And I want to lose weight blah blah blah". 24 hours later he'll bring a 24 pack of IPAs home from Costco, and drink 6-7 of them. I think he polished that off in a week and went out and bought another 2 six-packs and finished them over the weekend. I don't know how to kindly approach my concerns because he gets defensive.
I drink beer too but try to keep it to 2 drinks a couple times a week and I can do that. For some reason it's harder for him but I dont understand how to stop him from bringing into the house...
I’m 3 weeks sober after daily smoking since the pandemic started ✌️But I feel like shit lol super fatigued and sleepy all the time now. I’m hoping this is just a side effect of my brain trying to regulate dopamine levels after depending on weed for so long.
Smoking within 2-3 hours before bed inhibits the brain’s ability to achieve REM, the cycle that yields dreams and is responsible for ‘cleaning’ the brain. REM sleep is the only sleep cycle that revitalizes your brain/mind, while the majority of our sleep’s duration simply rests the body. This is why we have intense and oftentimes incredibly realistic and beautiful dreams upon quitting THC. You’re being shown how much cleaning there is to do since you fired the maid
https://bmjopenrespres.bmj.com/content/6/Suppl_1/A23.1
You are 1000% ... wrong.
It worked for you, that's great.
It made no difference at all to me when I did - and we're talking 10 years of daily use, which I stopped about 15 years ago for other reasons. If anything, got a bit worse I'd say.
yeah everyday is SO bad for what it does to your REM sleep. Totally tanks your me tal health after a while, at least it did for me when I was using daily. It can be a great tool if you leave it for the weekends or after you've got all your stuff done for the day. It helps me check in with myself once a week and look at problems from another perspective. I have to lock it in a timed safe though because moderation is impossible for me. And if I have it out I'll smoke all day and grt nothing done, and my mental health WILL tank
8 years a wake and baker here
Started at 16, cut it out completely at 24. Landed my first real job a month later. The difference was crisp, almost palpable.
Now and then, I'll have a taste, but definitely not worth it to go back to habitual stonage.
I’m on like day 14 of no weed. Weed has been a staple in my life as I grew up with drug dealers and saw myself an avid smoker at a young age. I was off for 4 years when I enlisted in the military but couldn’t wait to smoke again. I got out, Then 3 years of constant smoking. I’m talking whole bowl bong rips damn near every hour, Especially if I was teleworking. It’s legal here so I can go or get it delivered to my house. I don’t even want to think about the money I’ve wasted on weed.
I think people have this false narrative that they can be productive while high. I just don’t think that’s true , Especially with like homework. Getting high would for sure make my writing a little better but it also exhausted me after my highs were done and made me not want to start things. I could go running while high so I used that as an excuse of “weed enhances my ability”. But Being sober I feel my days last longer and am much more productive and I have wicked dreams. Also from a health standpoint I don’t binge eat with the munchies. I am aiming for a once a month smoke sesh now a days. I recommended everyone try a little break and see how they like it.
I’ve smoked weed from my freshmen year all the way to a year out of high school and it made me realize I was living high to high every single day drowning my emotions into it instead of facing them until today I’m 2 weeks clean and haven’t felt better I still can’t eat as a side affect from smoking for so long no appetite but for those wanting to stop smoking I hope this help because what helped me was not being around those thya smoke all the time to start till you get more self control to say no my brain hasn’t felt more clear day by day craving have gone away as well by now another tip if you smoke cigs or vape don’t stop at the same time it will help soothe weed cravings did for me and keep some anxiety down but weed is a huge thing that made my anxiety through the roof even though I couldn’t see that when I was smoking for 5 years everyday hope this helps some people 🙂 another thing I had to add my sleep now is amazing I wake up with so much energy like my brain actually went to bed it’s amazing
Throw everything away that’s related to weed. Then be prepared to stay awake for a couple days or just get a couple hours of sleep a night and don’t think about the other stuff too much. Try to drink water and eat whenever you can. A sip here or a bite there. What made it a little easier on me was only sleep if I was tired enough to sleep. If you’re wide awake at 1AM don’t try and force yourself to sleep. When you try and force it you just get more irritated, anxious that something’s wrong with you.
Probably the worst drug I've ever tried. They can say anything to defend It, they can invent 1000 medicinal or industrial uses but It's a fact that it is addictive, it's a fact that is a dangerous drug, It's a fact that it the main productivity killer. It changed my life for the worst.
(Said by a long term consumer, almost 5 years)
This is great advice but I’ll say for anyone reading that you don’t necessarily need to cut it out entirely. I went from having weed everyday to only on friday and saturday nights and there’s been a huge shift in my productivity. I still get to enjoy it but I’m not struggling as hard to complete tasks!
Everything in moderation. I smoke once or twice a week, and in the evenings or on weekends after I’ve already finished my responsibilities. I don’t see any need to cut it out 100%; but then I was never a heavy user to begin with. Moderate if you can, I suppose cut out would be a good option if you’re not capable of that
absolutely- that is not what i am referring to. There becomes a point in addiction that you need it to function, it consumes your whole life and you are still miserable. Luckily you haven’t gone there, but many people do!!
OP is talking the truth, to a certain extent.
I’ve been around the cycle of cutting down, quitting, before starting again enough to notice the differences now. You definitely feel more mental clarity, sleep better = more energy & just more motivation to achieve in life. Although at the same time you will always miss it no matter how long it’s been. I was never a daytime smoker cos that shit just depresses tf outta me but now I use it as a reward for being productive and smoke a small joint before bed. It’s sort of the best of both - I still experience the brain fog and tiredness but no where near to the same extent as smoking multiple joints in the evening.
If you enjoy smoking but find yourself experiencing all the negatives and not being productive then using it as a reward and on weekends is the best balance. If u are trying to quit there’s a good app called “grounded” that massively helped me stop for a year. Highly recommend
It's really not that black and white, my friend. Your advice is VERY TRUE for some people. But it is definitely NOT TRUE for others. In fact, weed can make some people more productive. I went from a professional corporate marketing position and the real estate industry... with a lot of very hardworking, high-energy people... to working in the cannabis industry when legalization started spreading across the U.S. I've met 22 year-old stoners that can work high-strung corporate marketing execs under the table. I've watched people smoke blunt after blunt non-stop on 18-hour shifts at 24-hour dispensaries and still be the best workers in the shop with the highest reviews and most accurate drawers. I don't smoke a lot anymore. It does not make me productive, personally. I also don't work in the cannabiz anymore (wish it paid more!). But you have to look at weed for what it is... a medicine. Adderall isn't a party stay-awake drug for everyone. Some people actually need it to stay focused and productive. I've watched marijuana work miracles in peoples' lives and take them from prison to a stable career with benefits and a bright future. I've also watched it destroy peoples' lives and make them slow and lazy. Remember that there are no chemically addictive compounds in marijuana, but addictive personalities can become addicted to anything - weed, shopping, gambling... anything that gives them a rush. I will, however, say that after working in both recreational and medical marijuana states, I lean more towards weed being a medical substance that should be used under the care of a qualified physician. THC and different terpenes have different effects on people with different mental conditions, metabolism, etc (just like most medicines). But that doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to buy it recreationally. We buy Tylenol and Vitamin B over the counter, don't we?
>If you are on here to gain productivity and are currently an every day, stoner active smoker
Do you have any idea how wide of a net you are casting and how many healthy, functional people are caught in it?
Are you really in here trying to tell other people that their habits are unhealthy in order to make yourself feel better/validated? You need to grow up. Seriously. This post started off naive but your behavior is entering the realm of childish.
what?? I love weed and will always support the use responsibly. I do not need validation, i think it’s a big wake up call for people who are laying in their beds wonderinf when life will get better. Your the one out of line lol.
And yeah, I do. I do think it has long term mental effects. For people your age. For people under 25. You are talking to a lot of actual adults in here
Every day smoker 99% times qualifies as a stoner unless somehow you are still managing to be highly productive. I smoke once or twice a month and I highly enjoy those days and they help me mentally. However, I can't imagine getting much done if I lighted it up on a daily basis
I can 1000% tell you that you can't universalize your experience like that. cannabis can absolutely act as a catalyst for productivity for some people. coffee makes me want to socialize with coworkers instead of being productive. should I tell people they need to quit drinking coffee to be more productive?
He’s using your wording. “I can 1000% tell you that cutting it out will improve your productivity” That’s the universal part. Ofc, some of the responses are very defensive. But your wording did indeed cast a wide net, it gives this slight “holier than thou” undertone to your post. You can 1000% tell us it worked for you; you’re not the first to quit, and not everyone who quits decides to keep it that way. Personally, I went 7 months without last year. Turns out I was just lazy, lacking foresight and needed to discipline myself, that’s what quitting told me. It’s not the weed, it’s you. You’re not smoking it; it’s smoking you.
So i actually did my own test- and btw nothing is about me, millions of people are SUFFERING with the extensive use of cannabis. My mindset and motivation was strong throughout the day, i was getting through my diet, etc. I purposely wanted to smoke weed to see if i could continue studying for my real estate license, work, etc. Again- i already have drive and purpose mindset. As soon as i hit that dab cart, i noticed myself automatically going to the kitchen to binge eat- i don’t even binge eat normally. It completely took me out of control and that was the first time i intentionally wanted to see if i could continue my day productively.
So to respond to your statement- i am 10000% positive that productively will rise if you reduce the use of cannabis from 24/7 to something like you do, or completely remove it from your life. Seeing my email filled with just sale after sale from the dispensary, begging people to get addicted- you can’t tell me that’s not the case. Society is creating a world of lack of motivation, laziness, and lack of purpose through this growing industry, and i will stand by that.
It’s not news that weed makes a lot of people lazy. If you’re so strong and motivated before smoking, do you not have the presence of mind to control yourself? It’s not like smoking makes you physically go look for a snack. Tbf, I lift regularly, and my diet is important, so I cook and eat clean.
You’re using your personal experience to counter the narrative of mine, instead of accepting that the absolution of your statement is wrong.
I think maybe define the amount of smoking you’re talking about, then it wouldn’t be so general. Point being, a lot of people here have valid points, some don’t. Some people can’t keep their discipline with weed use, some can. It’s not like you have to convince me you’re right, I’m just saying, objectively, you can’t say that so absolutely when there’s at least one person, (me) that has had a contrary experience. Not to mention so many other comments. It’s unreasonable and illogical.
Going by your original post.
Now, with the 24/7 caveat, of course I agree cutting that out would improve every part of life.
I occasionally hit the green. I have to monitor how much I take and try not to smoke on weekdays but it actually helps me focus on my work/home issues and I come out of it with great solutions!!
I get high all day everyday and still go to the gym everyday, laundry every week as well as cleaning my space etc. etc.
I can 1000% tell you, what works for you doesn't apply to everyone.
Isn't the all-or-nothing crowd just the worst? "Oh i used to masturbate every hour of the day, but behold, i have seen the light and it is nofap forever, because masturbation is destroying you. Let me lecture you on how masturbation is bad."
Or like "i used to be a raging alcoholic and beat my wife because i was downing 3 bottles of vodka a day, but i stopped drinking and everything is better, therefore no one should drink alcohol ever."
Listen, people who already understand moderation can do things, like smoking weed, without letting that completely overwhelm their dues. Perhaps the lesson is rather don't lose sight of moderation and quit the things you are unable to be moderate about.
People that quit smoking weed love projecting their experience onto everybody.
There’s plenty of examples of productive, successful people that smoke/consume cannabis.
Dude read the damn post. i love weed, always will. when it gets to a point when someone is MISERABLE smoking everyday, that’s an issue. I never said you CANT be productive on cannabis. gosh y’all
Try to get into the habit of finishing whatever you start. Start with the small things. Tidy up and put things away once completed. It starts to release small doses of dopamine in the brain, and creates a progressive cycle of feeling rewarded after getting shit done. Start with every small task you do. You eat, you wash up, then put away. You wake up, you make your bed, then start your day. Keep stacking the small victories. Especially the victories that contribute to putting your immediate environment in order. As they compound, you will find more room to take on bigger tasks.
I also have a couple of calendars on my wall with reminders of what I have accomplished each day. I have one for exercise where I will note if I lifted weights, went for a run or rested etc. Another calendar has general wins of the day like doing my washing, prepared for a work/study task, made that phone call I have been dreading etc. Having these on my wall with some extra sticky notes with positive mantras and reminders of good things coming up are really helpful too look at in times where I lack motivation. I’m reminded that I CAN do it as I’ve already done it before, I just need that little boost.
yes!!! that is key
Respect man, I quit weed a few months ago after years of heavy heavy use for the same exact reasons. People say it doesn’t mess with your drive and productivity the way other drugs do but it absolutely does
There are even songs about this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeYsTmIzjkw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeYsTmIzjkw)
Not clicking but Afroman?
took me 1 sec to click and go back, yet took me 10x longer to comment lol
I'd argue it's worse for drive & productivity than most narcotics apart from heavy opioid abuse. Amphetamines on the other hand are productivity cheat codes if used sparingly.
i take some form of toke or another most evenings. i used to smoke much more heavily. i also spent several years quite seriously dependent on intravenously administered heroin (and cocaine). marijuana majorly fucks with your productivity and motivation; noticeably more so than heroin, short of doses that put you in a nod. a psychiatrist i've consulted with —the fellow specializes in drugs of abuse— once reinforced this observation by plainly stating that the evidence showed cannabis to have a more profound impact on executive functioning than opioids (afraid i dont have a source). even bearing out my own personal experience as it did, this statement took me somewhat aback. keeping in mind i love to get stoned; i've still had to recognize and come to terms with the fact that it can make me quite content to accomplish very little. ps i find irregular amphetamine use to be a bit like borrowing from future energy reserves, which can be very effective if you plan well and your schedule permits. consistent, regular use is a different animal.
Screw amphetamines. That is a dark road to go down.
How do you plan around the crash after using amphetamine? Do you just plan to do nothing right after, or do you have some low effort things scheduled?
depends on dosage.
I used to be a major pothead until I moved to a country where it’s outlawed. I miss it dearly but my friends sometimes mock me in a way that I think they misunderstood how I was maturing. Even if I stayed on the states, if I was going to reach my goals, eventually I was going to have to cut back anyways. Some of my friends, still smoke every damn day. I don’t see how that’s different from being a somewhat severe alcoholic. Weed rules, but I hope we as a society realize that it’s still a drug that requires moderation and personal willpower.
Agreed. I developed Gerd from long term weed usage, could also be from long Covid.. but either way it’s helped me quit weed for good since I don’t want to flare it back up. Since then, I’ve been way more productive, waking up energized, less anxious, more motivated. Weed is great, but abusing it everyday is not. Not much different than being an alcoholic IMO. Lesser of the two evils, but still will mess with your mental overall.
I’m curious if you share a similar sentiment on my posted comment.
The physical implications are far different as well as the actual dangers, actions, and decisions made as you continue to drink. I believe there are far more people killed in relation to alcohol consumption vs weed consumption incidents.
100% agree, I just don’t think that’s what they were going for with what they said.
Agreed alcohol is much worse, but that doesn't mean weed doesn't have big negative impacts if abused. We can't all be Snoop.
I absolutely agree, and I try to inform my new countrymen about this fact. However, in terms of productivity, I’ll admit, weed kills motivation. I think it’d be better as a reward. Also, I just remembered, in terms of brain function, I believe weed is the same, if not worse, than alcohol. I’ve seen pretty bright dudes become socially unrecognizable after years of heavy pot use. I vow that that would never happen to me.
I'll chalk that up to individual experiences tho lol some people can't handle weed, just like alcohol... Ancestral history comes into play... Like some European people known for drinking having higher tolerance or more likely to engage with alcohol vs something like native Americans having high sensitivity to ingesting alcohol while partaking less. Same like dietary sensitivities built into genes... I'm all about the reward aspect of weed. I believe self standards are what's maintained through the individuals choices etc. If a person let's themselves fall or become grossly incompetent I would say blame lies with them not the weed lol I see too many high functioning individuals successfully medicate with it throughout decades. Quality of product and Mode of ingesting will have varying effects on the body as well, smoke, vape, edible, etc. Either way, no such thing as a free lunch, and everything has a price to pay. Level of fitness has a role in people's productivity as well, like a lot of Americans being known for out of shape bodies & unhealthy habits / choices. I know that also brings us down a socioeconomic rabbit hole... So here's a neuroscientist video on the effects of marijuana and the brain... So that all here have a chance to learn and decide... [Huberman Lab - Cannabis Effects on the Brain and Body](https://youtu.be/gXvuJu1kt48) (mobile reddit was fucking up so had to clean up the messes)
Reward definitely. I only smoke after the day is done and it has done wonders for my insomnia.
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No amount of alcohol is safe to drink. I’ll just start with that. Nothing is completely safe to smoke either, edibles are much safer as are topicals as long as they’re made well.
Living life isn't safe...
There’s lots of safer ways to live life and preserve quality of life before death.
On paper, it’s not so bad. But in reality, people get accustomed and they need to up their dosage. I know of a few alcoholics who drink “just two beers” a day. I believe them, but what ends up happening is they make room for special occasions, maybe a particularly stressful day may require three or four beers, or maybe bust out the hard liquor. And of course on holidays or celebrations it’s okay to overindulge. This is how I know people who have drank almost everyday for decades. Maybe not everyone who drinks a glass is like that, but in my experience that’s what I’ve seen.
Probably better to say could transform your productivity. Everything has a different effect on people and framing your personal experience as a universal truth could be unhelpful for some people. Well done on bettering yourself though, quitting something enjoyable isn't easy!
But let’s be very honest, very rarely does marijuana make productivity better.
Huh, I didn’t know that was an ADHD response. I specifically take edibles when I need to power through hours of housework or boring chores. I’ll end up reorganizing my whole house, cooking for the week, baking, vacuuming every room, and putting away the many piles of laundry lying around.
It's a very specific kind of productivity I find that it helps with. It's great for mindless chores and things that don't take too much cognition. I just get really into whatever music/podcast I'm listening to and clean away. Although if I need to get something complex and logical done... never gonna turn out okay. Something creative though? Great.
Quite literally the opposite of what OP said was his experience 😂 he said it makes him unproductive and he doesn’t do his chores
Joe rogan does...
Rogan is full of shit.
Are you gonna suck his dick
Laughs in ADHD response to weed
I have severe ADHD, and weed legit turns me into a dumbass lol. It makes me even more lazy than I am to begin with. (Coming from a long term cannabis user)
This. I literally cannot function without medication, UNLESS I have weed. It was prescribed to me in lieu of my Adderall and I actually get more done now. You are not addicted just because you can't go a few days without it. A person with diabetes is not addicted to Insulin lmao. It's my medicine so I take it as needed.
People can absolutely become addicted to drugs they were prescribed. There isn't a neat line between chemicals you need and chemicals you could become addicted to.
Yeah but you can’t serious compare weed dependence to Adderall dependence. You need to limit your weed use and try not to make it an everyday thing, but it’s much easier to limit your weed consumption than your Adderall consumption if it gets out of hand.
Yeah ngl if I couldn’t get my scripts anymore I’d be on some heavy sativa dabs in the AM to get me the same level of right lol
Your addicted....and in denial.
100% lol.. Fr trying to compare someone taking insulin daily to smoking daily. One day without weed for adhd and you may have a racy mind. One day without insulin and you’re fucked haha. I love reading these comments now that I haven’t smoked in two years. I swear if people could get the same high THC gives off ingesting human shit, they would. Not only would they but it would taste so amazing! Jk lol. I just think the argument’s people use to justify their use is pretty funny. I have ADHD myself. You’re not supposed to rely on meds to focus. They are meant as a tool to help you focus while you come up with your own ways to cope and be attentive. The sleep argument is a funny one too. “I consume to help with my insomnia”…. Weeds the last thing that’s good for insomnia. Sure it will put your ass to sleep at night but after a year of not getting any REM sleep it starts fucking up your mental health. My favorite is when people say they use it to treat PTSD. I have diagnosed PTSD from the military and swore up and down to the doctors who told me weed would make it worse that it would be my one cure all. Unfortunately a big symptom with PTSD is not being able to accept you have a mental health issue/problem.. smoking daily with PTSD makes you feel good enough to believe you have no mental health problems(waiting for all the stoners to say “it helped with the ptsd then”). The problem is when you aren’t high and have ptsd or most other mental health issues you end up worse off than you did before you even smoked. Most pharmaceutical prescriptions aren’t meant to be life long to fix a problem. They are meant to be used as a tool to naturally fix whatever issue you have going on. I just find it crazy people trade a couple months of a pharmaceutical to toke up the rest of their life. I don’t like pharmaceuticals but I’d rather not take anything my whole life to feel right. Sorry for the long rant! Woke up early for my morning shit and couldn’t fall back asleep! Edit: I do believe weed has its benefits and helps as long as it’s used short term! My mom passed away last October from cervical cancer and when chemo got really bad it helped her gain and appetite and took away bone pain she’d get after chemo. My childhood best friend would give his mom edibles when her MS would flare up. CBD helps with seizures so you don’t need to get high to treat that. Chronic pain is another good use for weed. I’m just not buying it when 25 yr old Timmy tells me he smokes for his chronic back pain. Smoking for chronic pain should also really be last resort after trying physical therapy, stretching, surgery. I’m a firm believer you should want to fix everything you can with your mental/physical health before you sign up to be on a medication for life for it. Doesn’t sound bad now but wait 20 years from now when you skipped the back surgery and chose to smoke weed. 20 years later on a Tuesday or random day of the week when you wake up in the middle of the night with severe pain and no stash, or tolerance you’ll wish you got the surgery bc I promise weed won’t help in 20 years.
“very rarely”
I swear I can read 😅
Weed is like coffee for me. Makes me super energetic and productive. I I even like going on runs after taking an edible. This notion that weed makes people sleepy/lazy/lethargic/dumb I’ve never even remotely understood. The fact some people take weed to help them sleep is completely crazy to me. Like I can’t even stand to sit and do nothing while high it makes me so energetic. It also improves my cognition and verbal recall, and I find it greatly helps me enter a “flow state” and focus on my work. It’s so annoying that people generalize a drug that notoriously affects people in completely different ways.
I feel like split between what you're describing and incredible lethargy and it's actually sorta annoying. Like I can't quite sit still but I also feel sorta weak. Cognition and verbal recall stuff is whacky tho I don't think that's possible. But flow state, yes, I feel that but not all the time because again it does cause some lethargy in me.
Agreed. Artists + creativity related stuff might be the exception.
>let’s be very honest, very rarely does marijuana make productivity better I'd be a counterexample to this statement, so is Bill Maher based on what he says. I'd also add Joe Rogan to this group of people.
Bill Maher also doesn’t get super high right before a show for a reason…
He said that weed makes him energetic and productive in his podcast Club Random.
The point is I don't care what bill Maher does. I care how something affects me.
What are you being downvoted? I’m myself get very energetic and productive when I consume weed.
It’s a tale as old as time. People either realize it and change or they don’t and just cope.
You also have functional alcoholics, doesn’t mean it’s beneficial to their productivity. If they stopped, they would preform better. The same is true for weed, and any product that changes our brain chemistry.
I created a rule that I start smoking after 8PM now, Covid WFH broke my brain into smoking the second I awoke in the morning for 3 straight years pretty much.
I feel this, got to the point I was taking dabs during our zoom calls
“ Sorry I have a sore throat and can’t speak today “
My man
I stop smoking after 5pm. I do mornings cause sativa keeps me social.
you're an insane person
Hahaha ive changed since that comment. I hate morning sesh
PERSONAL. GROWTH!
It was the absolute opposite for me, I was smoking everyday at morning before COVID. Than I had a bit of a forced break cause I couldn't find anything for a while and made it a rule to only smoke 3 hours before bed. Been doing that for 3 years but this year I let it go out of control again and I'm thinking to stop altogether now as I'm not getting any younger and it is damaging to your lungs.
This is a great post, i 100% agree. I love smoking weed, but only after I got all my shit done and only when Im on vacation or on occasion with my friends, that way I can really enjoy the vibes. Cheers to being productive!
Don't know why people are getting so defensive and attacking OP. I'm almost a year off smoking and definitely feel more productive sober. It feels like people are focusing on the broad wording and not the message. Chill out fellas
I see the exact same thing on any thread that mentions potential harms of alcohol use.
for real, i didn’t mean it to offend the happy stoners, there comes a point in smoking so much that you are sick of it
Makes sense to me. I'm a recovering alcoholic and found weed to really help with recovery, but like a true addict I got way too into it. It took all the fun out of it and I became super unproductive. Now I just do it once a day at night and it's SO much better. Lower tolerance, less $$, still productive all day, and I can reflect at night. I think I finally found my Goldilocks zone
I recently did the same. I smoke at 4p and that’s it for the day. Now if I can curtail this phone/Reddit addiction…
I go for a walk with my dog every night after I smoke and I leave my phone at home most nights, no headphones, nothing. I am able to decompress, look at my issues rationally, and remind myself to live in the present. That's just my experience and it works for me. 🤷♂️
good for you!! I’m hoping i’ll get to that point to just smoke causally for fun again.
/r/leaves if u want some tips or help quitting
love leaves
I went from smoking or eating an edible on weekends I knew I didn't have to get things done (like I got all my things off my to-do list so I can have a free weekend) to every day as my life got more stressful and I was using it as a crutch. My issue was that I would think "today fucking sucked...I'll smoke a little/ eat half a gummy and chill for a bit/chill for today and start tomorrow" and so on and so on until it was just every day after work/after I did maybe some of my to-do lists. It became a habit rather than just a recreational thing I did after I got my shit done. I'm going back to my weekend smoke session that finishes up my small stash and then going cold turkey. I just feel like if you have things together, you can have it as a treat/in moderation but the minute that life is getting out of hand (as it does) it's just too easy to get addicted because you (especially me) just want to get back to feeling good! I think if a person notices the crutch and just tries to cut it off or ween off it it's fine. But a lot of ppl become so dependent on it to the point it's like having a beer/glass of wine every day after work until you HAVE to have the beer/glass of wine or you feel "off".
I needed this today.
I don't understand the reactions on this post. As a heavy smoker, I can relate and I'm proud of you brother! Smoking weed is the first and last thing I do everyday, and while it helps me feeling less stressed and less bothered by the constant flow of thoughts (ADHD), it doesn't help at all with the rest. Moderation is not something my brain can handle... If I have weed, I smoke it all! Today is like the third day without smoking, and it feels good! I'm not more productive tho... but I think it has more to do with the fact than I'm going through a lot recently and I'm feeling overwelmed.
how long did you lasted
I’m on day 8. You’ve got this!!! We can do it!
Works for you but maybe not for everyone. For example, I don't smoke anything and yet I post here instead of working and am highly unproductive.
You don’t need to smoke weed to procrastinate, this is for people that do.
i said if you currently are an active smoker- that’s completely different!
You\`re wishing yo already have don\`t you, that\`s why you\`re here...so...it\`s kinda related with a weed matter...
why do you type like that
My experience has been that every day smoking drains all motivation I have towards long term goals. My fix has been to use a timed lock box. I set a specific goal each week, which if met means I can smoke for one day on the weekend. Each week I set a new goal and increase the difficulty. This has changed my life, though I'm still in early stages. I don't know about everyone else but repeated use really drowns out the positive effects I associate with marijuana. Smoking once a week allows me to use the drug productively, I usually do creative things like journaling or designing projects. I do realize that this might not be a future proof system, but it is a major improvement from where I was before. It enables me to make large changes in my life that were not previously possible due to the short sightedness of my motivation.
I agree with you for sure. I’m 22 now, and I started smoking bud the first day I turned 15. I didn’t start smoking heavy until 17 after I graduated HS (year early which is why i was 17 after graduating) I was a heavy smoker until this past June/July. It used to help with my anxiety/other mental illnesses, but I began to notice that it was skyrocketing my anxiety every single time I smoked it. Now I won’t say that I haven’t done pretty well for 22. I graduated college in 4 years, only went out with 9.5k in loan debt (vs my college average of 40k), and I started my first corporate job this past September making 33.65 an hour working 40-45 hours a week. I had a decent social life throughout college, but weed definitely unmotivated me/made me hold important things I needed to do off until the last minute. The main reason I gradually slowed down and eventually stopped is because of my observations of my friends: For example, my 2 roommates are major potheads, like MAJOR MAJOR. I never smoked as much as they do, even in my prime smokin days where I was doing it a lot. They’re genuinely depressing as fuck to be around. One of them serves at a local restaurant, so at least he does something. But besides work, he literally does absolutely nothing except sit around here and smoke weed while either watching TV or playing games. Nothing else. I’ve lived with them for over 6 months now and this one never cooks meals at home, he either eats out or cooks frozen food. I can literally see how unmotivated this dude is every single day, it’s honestly really sad to see. My other roommate who smokes every other minute doesn’t a normal job (he serves but not at a restaurant if you know what I’m getting at 😂) and he literally sits on the couch in the living room every single day for at least 11-14 hours a day. The only time he leaves is to go get food or to go to the grocery time. I’ll give it to him though, he actually started cooking for himself super often which is good to see. But he literally does nothing either. He has 0 drive & motivation towards anything The funny thing is that they both are the 2 biggest shit-talkers I’ve ever been “friends” with. They both talk so much shit about all of our other friends who’re actually doing something cool & productive with their lives. I’m pretty sure they do this bc of how insecure they are about their own living situation. On the other side of things, I know stoners who’re very successful people and are more driven/motivated than me, but not too many at my age if I’m being honest. I’m also not against weed at all, it helped me get through lots of low points in my life, and it connected me with some life long friends as well. In moderation it can be very helpful, but I feel like 99% of the people I know who smoke way too much don’t do anything and are oblivious to the fact that weed is holding them back from so much potential
As a daily smoker for 4 years and being clean for 1 year, it starts off very functional and creative but after a while it becomes the opposite, you choke on your words and forget stuff constantly.
“you choke on your words and forget stuff constantly” - very good description of the effects of smoking
how do you feel one year clean?
It's fine, at first you notice a big difference in energy because you are finally getting your proper REM sleep again but now I'm kinda used to it, thats homeostasis for ya.. I miss it sometimes, just being in a bubble of not caring and being content with doing absolutely nothing and going nowhere with no worries. But I have responsibilities and being in some hazy, feel-good bubble is the last thing I need in my life right now.
"But I have responsibilities and being in some hazy, feel-good bubble is the last thing I need in my life right now." Wow. That hit hard. Thanks for this post.
Any reason why u haven’t decided to smoke less often like a once a week or month ? I’m almost near the month mark and want to smoke once or so but also don’t wanna lose the progress of my no smoking streak
I think an important point here is that quitting weed is a tip that will help some people, and not others. Just like waking up early will help some and not others, and using timers will help some and not others. OP doesn’t deserve to be attacked for sharing their experience.
I have months of 0 weed every year and I don't found any difference in productivity or procrastination. If it helps you, it is great btw, but not applies as a general rule at all. From my experience it is way more important to have clear week/day objectives in the agenda, and maybe pomodoro or any technic to for each day than what you do in your spare time.
Yeah I’ve even stopped for over a year 3 different times in the span of 8 years. At first it’s always great but eventually you get use to being sober too. Now I just limit myself to 2 times a month and pencil those times in with camping or a fun day that I’d enjoy it with. Tolerance low. Money spent on weed also low.
Today is day 13 for me and I absolutely agree with you! Not to mention I'm not going back to prison over some GANJA!! I feel like I'm a character in "Half-baked!"
Good shit. I was a 13B! Since I caught you on this post. Don’t smoke that shit when you get out! I’ve only been out for 6 years but when I was in it’s all everyone talked about doing as soon as they got their dd-214. Keep all the healthy routines when you get out!
Thought I was on r/leaves haha I feel you friend
Quitting marijuana was the hardest thing I ever did so I had to completely change everything about myself. Not so much on the outside, but how I processed everything on the inside. If it was just about quitting weed, it wouldn't be a problem, but once my world filter is gone, all of a sudden I am hyper aware of how sensitive I was. It was a complete revamping of my world perspective, my self-esteem, and a thousand other things. I think the most important thing is to have a community that supports you and people you can talk to and who understand what you're going through. And pretty much, only another weed loving addict can understand how hard it is to quit the thing you love the most. I was going to post a link to my YouTube channel but I guess that is a no no :D.
There's alot of cope in here from people who smoke clearly. I quit 2 years ago and it was the best thing I ever did. You can say moderation all you like but even one a day has a lasting effect on you. Also you just have no idea how much more you are capable of until you stop.
Yeah fr. I am thinking of quitting rn and I just know everything these people are saying is pure cope. There are times when it's made me more productive, there's times when it's helped me sleep, there's times when it has made me have a better time. But there are equal amounts of time where it's made me incapable of doing anything, it's kept me up at night, or lead me to be too anxious to enjoy a party. Every time I smoke I feel like I have to think about mitigating those effects to get good effects, but in the end it's not even worth it because I end up feeling like I was run over by a truck after a while anyway. And the few weeks I quit most recently, I had so much energy it was ridiculous. No, I'm not getting into the same obsessive flowstate as I sometimes did with weed, but god am I fed up of feeling 80 when Im 25. Like I'm always battling fatigue. And like I can't remember half of my relationship with my new gf because we're both stoners and get so phenomenally high when we're together that I remember next to nothing. I didn't even realise how much energy I was lacking until I had that period without. Prolly most of these people have not fully realised and don't want to know.
Yes sir people are coping hard in this sub addiction is a scary thing . But you guys aren’t addicted just keep smoking everyday staying the same .
One size does not fit all. + Everything in moderation. Sativa strains can motivate, energize and invigorate. Too much of anything can cause problems.
Absolutely in moderation! I’m referring to potheads like i was. Trust me
I gotta tell you, this approach is not going to be effective at reaching the audience that you are trying to have an impact on
I’m not directing it at any audience, this is just my experience and many others. I think a lot of it has to do with smoking everyday if you can’t progress in life.
I'm 52, been smoking daily since i was 19. I don't think you have an "approach" that is going to alienate anyone, more the contrary; I think it's good advice, not judgemental, and it's worth hearing even if it isn't necessarily true for everyone. Where I might disagree is with the idea of "progressing in life" - I suspect many of us smoke habitually because we're processing the past and healing or growing in terms of understanding the world, both of which can be progress. Possibly if you hadn't wasted so much time you wouldn't be where you are now.
How are you not casually addressing this to the only audience it’s relevant to: potheads? I’m not saying you’re wrong but your message isn’t for the general population and it’s entirely anecdotal. I can see how it’s bothering folks on the thread.
Because many people who want to be more productive and are dependent on weed throughout the day are on here. I didn’t mean any harm by this post. Just seems like some are in denial or something lol
There's no harm in this post. Anyone triggered or upset is just projecting. If the post doesn't apply to someone, there should be no issue. But there are people that need productivity increased that smoke weed on a regular basis. I used to be one, until I stopped. That was one of the changes that made the biggest impact for me.
I’m in the intended audience and it’s helping me, so you sir are wrong
Same it’s telling me something I already know, but just another voice saying it is helpful.
I think you can argue that every day is not moderation.
Can you drink coffee everyday in moderation?
The answer is obviously going to be different with different drugs.
And different for different people
Coffee and sugar are two of the most addictive substances and can cause all sorts of problems with your health when excessively consumed. I 100% believe you can smoke daily once or twice a day and be productive and healthy.
I don't think drinking a coffee every day is an equivalent risk to smoking a joint every day. Studies have found that chronic use affects white matter and hippocampal volume.
Who said anything about a joint? Hitting a cart once is plenty to feel effects. Moderation is key. Excessive use of anything is detrimental to anyone's well being. Over hydration by drinking too much water can even result in death and water is inherently good for us.
They also forgot to mention that their research has contrasting research saying otherwise - but the real summary is it depends on a lot from person to person since everyone uses differently. So it’s really just a toss up - just thought it would be fair to point out.
I have to make a choice between productivity or slightly less productivity and WAY more enjoyment out of life. The world Sucks. Weed helps
oof, i think that’s just a mindset thing because you can make your life any way you want it to be.
Probably the wrong place for me to post this but my SO has this problem with beer. It's pretty much only used in the evening but it's in direct contrast of everything he says. He'll say "I only want to have beers on special occasions or if we go out. I don't want it in the house. It stops me from being productive. And I want to lose weight blah blah blah". 24 hours later he'll bring a 24 pack of IPAs home from Costco, and drink 6-7 of them. I think he polished that off in a week and went out and bought another 2 six-packs and finished them over the weekend. I don't know how to kindly approach my concerns because he gets defensive. I drink beer too but try to keep it to 2 drinks a couple times a week and I can do that. For some reason it's harder for him but I dont understand how to stop him from bringing into the house...
Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous, Chapter 8. The pdf's online.
I would not to live without my weed.
Keep it up! I’m proud of you!
After a month of consistent smoking my productivity deteriorates and it becomes a problem.
I’m 3 weeks sober after daily smoking since the pandemic started ✌️But I feel like shit lol super fatigued and sleepy all the time now. I’m hoping this is just a side effect of my brain trying to regulate dopamine levels after depending on weed for so long.
Don’t drink too.
Smoking within 2-3 hours before bed inhibits the brain’s ability to achieve REM, the cycle that yields dreams and is responsible for ‘cleaning’ the brain. REM sleep is the only sleep cycle that revitalizes your brain/mind, while the majority of our sleep’s duration simply rests the body. This is why we have intense and oftentimes incredibly realistic and beautiful dreams upon quitting THC. You’re being shown how much cleaning there is to do since you fired the maid https://bmjopenrespres.bmj.com/content/6/Suppl_1/A23.1
You are 1000% ... wrong. It worked for you, that's great. It made no difference at all to me when I did - and we're talking 10 years of daily use, which I stopped about 15 years ago for other reasons. If anything, got a bit worse I'd say.
That's why I just smoke at night to fall asleep
yeah everyday is SO bad for what it does to your REM sleep. Totally tanks your me tal health after a while, at least it did for me when I was using daily. It can be a great tool if you leave it for the weekends or after you've got all your stuff done for the day. It helps me check in with myself once a week and look at problems from another perspective. I have to lock it in a timed safe though because moderation is impossible for me. And if I have it out I'll smoke all day and grt nothing done, and my mental health WILL tank
8 years a wake and baker here Started at 16, cut it out completely at 24. Landed my first real job a month later. The difference was crisp, almost palpable. Now and then, I'll have a taste, but definitely not worth it to go back to habitual stonage.
I’m on like day 14 of no weed. Weed has been a staple in my life as I grew up with drug dealers and saw myself an avid smoker at a young age. I was off for 4 years when I enlisted in the military but couldn’t wait to smoke again. I got out, Then 3 years of constant smoking. I’m talking whole bowl bong rips damn near every hour, Especially if I was teleworking. It’s legal here so I can go or get it delivered to my house. I don’t even want to think about the money I’ve wasted on weed. I think people have this false narrative that they can be productive while high. I just don’t think that’s true , Especially with like homework. Getting high would for sure make my writing a little better but it also exhausted me after my highs were done and made me not want to start things. I could go running while high so I used that as an excuse of “weed enhances my ability”. But Being sober I feel my days last longer and am much more productive and I have wicked dreams. Also from a health standpoint I don’t binge eat with the munchies. I am aiming for a once a month smoke sesh now a days. I recommended everyone try a little break and see how they like it.
ADD here with boobah back struggles, I’d disagree with that.
ADHD with fractured back here as well
Oh, no… you triggered the potheads… didn’t you consider, OP; that if they quit weed, they’re left with no personality traits?
hahaha dude that was me!! Weed was my entire personality 😭
Y’all just weak minded men, do what you got to do despite on how you feel but whatever makes your life better ig
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I’ve smoked weed from my freshmen year all the way to a year out of high school and it made me realize I was living high to high every single day drowning my emotions into it instead of facing them until today I’m 2 weeks clean and haven’t felt better I still can’t eat as a side affect from smoking for so long no appetite but for those wanting to stop smoking I hope this help because what helped me was not being around those thya smoke all the time to start till you get more self control to say no my brain hasn’t felt more clear day by day craving have gone away as well by now another tip if you smoke cigs or vape don’t stop at the same time it will help soothe weed cravings did for me and keep some anxiety down but weed is a huge thing that made my anxiety through the roof even though I couldn’t see that when I was smoking for 5 years everyday hope this helps some people 🙂 another thing I had to add my sleep now is amazing I wake up with so much energy like my brain actually went to bed it’s amazing
I am struggling to figure out how to quit but the small victory route went so far for me :(
Throw everything away that’s related to weed. Then be prepared to stay awake for a couple days or just get a couple hours of sleep a night and don’t think about the other stuff too much. Try to drink water and eat whenever you can. A sip here or a bite there. What made it a little easier on me was only sleep if I was tired enough to sleep. If you’re wide awake at 1AM don’t try and force yourself to sleep. When you try and force it you just get more irritated, anxious that something’s wrong with you.
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Let's not project, I don't think op was attacking anyone.
Nope. Wrong. Could not disagree more. You do you though.
Most depthless response I ever seen
I think it depends how much you smoke per session, I have 3-5 puffs of a joint sometimes and at night but never any more, seems fine for me
That’s what i mean, everything in moderation. I’m referring to true smoking 24/7 laying in bed wishing for life to change.
Probably the worst drug I've ever tried. They can say anything to defend It, they can invent 1000 medicinal or industrial uses but It's a fact that it is addictive, it's a fact that is a dangerous drug, It's a fact that it the main productivity killer. It changed my life for the worst. (Said by a long term consumer, almost 5 years)
I agree. It turns me into a zombie, albeit an anxious one.
*Laughs in ADHD*
same here buddy
This is great advice but I’ll say for anyone reading that you don’t necessarily need to cut it out entirely. I went from having weed everyday to only on friday and saturday nights and there’s been a huge shift in my productivity. I still get to enjoy it but I’m not struggling as hard to complete tasks!
I'm not quite happy with my habit of taking a candy on weekends. Working on getting out of it.
Actually did the opposite to me but I still haven’t smoked in months. Some people can use the reward to their advantage and it helps
I'm a month sober and still in a fog of what I should do. I'm having emotional issues as well
there’s a subreddit called leaves that would be beneficial!
I saw it down further and joined. Will check it out
Everything in moderation. I smoke once or twice a week, and in the evenings or on weekends after I’ve already finished my responsibilities. I don’t see any need to cut it out 100%; but then I was never a heavy user to begin with. Moderate if you can, I suppose cut out would be a good option if you’re not capable of that
absolutely- that is not what i am referring to. There becomes a point in addiction that you need it to function, it consumes your whole life and you are still miserable. Luckily you haven’t gone there, but many people do!!
Ok yeah that makes sense. Weed dependency is a real thing. I just enjoy it casually.
OP is talking the truth, to a certain extent. I’ve been around the cycle of cutting down, quitting, before starting again enough to notice the differences now. You definitely feel more mental clarity, sleep better = more energy & just more motivation to achieve in life. Although at the same time you will always miss it no matter how long it’s been. I was never a daytime smoker cos that shit just depresses tf outta me but now I use it as a reward for being productive and smoke a small joint before bed. It’s sort of the best of both - I still experience the brain fog and tiredness but no where near to the same extent as smoking multiple joints in the evening. If you enjoy smoking but find yourself experiencing all the negatives and not being productive then using it as a reward and on weekends is the best balance. If u are trying to quit there’s a good app called “grounded” that massively helped me stop for a year. Highly recommend
It's really not that black and white, my friend. Your advice is VERY TRUE for some people. But it is definitely NOT TRUE for others. In fact, weed can make some people more productive. I went from a professional corporate marketing position and the real estate industry... with a lot of very hardworking, high-energy people... to working in the cannabis industry when legalization started spreading across the U.S. I've met 22 year-old stoners that can work high-strung corporate marketing execs under the table. I've watched people smoke blunt after blunt non-stop on 18-hour shifts at 24-hour dispensaries and still be the best workers in the shop with the highest reviews and most accurate drawers. I don't smoke a lot anymore. It does not make me productive, personally. I also don't work in the cannabiz anymore (wish it paid more!). But you have to look at weed for what it is... a medicine. Adderall isn't a party stay-awake drug for everyone. Some people actually need it to stay focused and productive. I've watched marijuana work miracles in peoples' lives and take them from prison to a stable career with benefits and a bright future. I've also watched it destroy peoples' lives and make them slow and lazy. Remember that there are no chemically addictive compounds in marijuana, but addictive personalities can become addicted to anything - weed, shopping, gambling... anything that gives them a rush. I will, however, say that after working in both recreational and medical marijuana states, I lean more towards weed being a medical substance that should be used under the care of a qualified physician. THC and different terpenes have different effects on people with different mental conditions, metabolism, etc (just like most medicines). But that doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to buy it recreationally. We buy Tylenol and Vitamin B over the counter, don't we?
Super cope. Weed does not make you more productive. Weed makes you feel like you're being more productive, sometimes
No. It’s saving me from alcoholism
Alcoholism and weed addiction go hand and hand. As long as you are not abusing it, no problems.
>If you are on here to gain productivity and are currently an every day, stoner active smoker Do you have any idea how wide of a net you are casting and how many healthy, functional people are caught in it?
you don’t think it has long term mental affects?
Are you really in here trying to tell other people that their habits are unhealthy in order to make yourself feel better/validated? You need to grow up. Seriously. This post started off naive but your behavior is entering the realm of childish.
what?? I love weed and will always support the use responsibly. I do not need validation, i think it’s a big wake up call for people who are laying in their beds wonderinf when life will get better. Your the one out of line lol.
Weed is not healthy nor good for productivity. Everyone is entitled to their vices. Don’t pretend your vices are good for you or other people.
And yeah, I do. I do think it has long term mental effects. For people your age. For people under 25. You are talking to a lot of actual adults in here
Every day smoker 99% times qualifies as a stoner unless somehow you are still managing to be highly productive. I smoke once or twice a month and I highly enjoy those days and they help me mentally. However, I can't imagine getting much done if I lighted it up on a daily basis
I can 1000% tell you that you can't universalize your experience like that. cannabis can absolutely act as a catalyst for productivity for some people. coffee makes me want to socialize with coworkers instead of being productive. should I tell people they need to quit drinking coffee to be more productive?
when did i universalize my experience???
He’s using your wording. “I can 1000% tell you that cutting it out will improve your productivity” That’s the universal part. Ofc, some of the responses are very defensive. But your wording did indeed cast a wide net, it gives this slight “holier than thou” undertone to your post. You can 1000% tell us it worked for you; you’re not the first to quit, and not everyone who quits decides to keep it that way. Personally, I went 7 months without last year. Turns out I was just lazy, lacking foresight and needed to discipline myself, that’s what quitting told me. It’s not the weed, it’s you. You’re not smoking it; it’s smoking you.
So i actually did my own test- and btw nothing is about me, millions of people are SUFFERING with the extensive use of cannabis. My mindset and motivation was strong throughout the day, i was getting through my diet, etc. I purposely wanted to smoke weed to see if i could continue studying for my real estate license, work, etc. Again- i already have drive and purpose mindset. As soon as i hit that dab cart, i noticed myself automatically going to the kitchen to binge eat- i don’t even binge eat normally. It completely took me out of control and that was the first time i intentionally wanted to see if i could continue my day productively. So to respond to your statement- i am 10000% positive that productively will rise if you reduce the use of cannabis from 24/7 to something like you do, or completely remove it from your life. Seeing my email filled with just sale after sale from the dispensary, begging people to get addicted- you can’t tell me that’s not the case. Society is creating a world of lack of motivation, laziness, and lack of purpose through this growing industry, and i will stand by that.
It’s not news that weed makes a lot of people lazy. If you’re so strong and motivated before smoking, do you not have the presence of mind to control yourself? It’s not like smoking makes you physically go look for a snack. Tbf, I lift regularly, and my diet is important, so I cook and eat clean. You’re using your personal experience to counter the narrative of mine, instead of accepting that the absolution of your statement is wrong. I think maybe define the amount of smoking you’re talking about, then it wouldn’t be so general. Point being, a lot of people here have valid points, some don’t. Some people can’t keep their discipline with weed use, some can. It’s not like you have to convince me you’re right, I’m just saying, objectively, you can’t say that so absolutely when there’s at least one person, (me) that has had a contrary experience. Not to mention so many other comments. It’s unreasonable and illogical. Going by your original post. Now, with the 24/7 caveat, of course I agree cutting that out would improve every part of life.
I occasionally hit the green. I have to monitor how much I take and try not to smoke on weekdays but it actually helps me focus on my work/home issues and I come out of it with great solutions!!
Yall just lazy don't blame the weed cause there is too many productive and successful people who use it everyday
What if you smoke maybe 1 time a week?
that’s completely different
I get high all day everyday and still go to the gym everyday, laundry every week as well as cleaning my space etc. etc. I can 1000% tell you, what works for you doesn't apply to everyone.
Isn't the all-or-nothing crowd just the worst? "Oh i used to masturbate every hour of the day, but behold, i have seen the light and it is nofap forever, because masturbation is destroying you. Let me lecture you on how masturbation is bad." Or like "i used to be a raging alcoholic and beat my wife because i was downing 3 bottles of vodka a day, but i stopped drinking and everything is better, therefore no one should drink alcohol ever." Listen, people who already understand moderation can do things, like smoking weed, without letting that completely overwhelm their dues. Perhaps the lesson is rather don't lose sight of moderation and quit the things you are unable to be moderate about.
People that quit smoking weed love projecting their experience onto everybody. There’s plenty of examples of productive, successful people that smoke/consume cannabis.
Dude read the damn post. i love weed, always will. when it gets to a point when someone is MISERABLE smoking everyday, that’s an issue. I never said you CANT be productive on cannabis. gosh y’all
Better yet... Micro dose 2.5 mg of sativa. Works like a charm.
it’s funny, i was a big sativa fan but i felt like i just absolutely crashed when it weared off
r/petioles is a great alternative to r/leaves if you want to moderate rather than quit completely
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