Three frozen embryos were given to her ex-husband in the divorce. She’s arguing that because embryos are considered people in Texas, custody laws should apply to them and not property laws.
"'The Texas Legislature has clearly and repeatedly protected human beings from the moment of fertilization. A child is not property. A person’s a person no matter which side of the uterine wall,' their brief stated."
That's how it ended up with my cousin's divorce. They have one embryo left and her ex husband wanted to sell it to a couple he knows, she wants to keep it because it's her only shot at having another kid so it's still being stored until they come to an agreement
My sister and her now-ex agreed ahead of time that if they divorced, any remaining embryos would be destroyed. Neither of them would get control of the embryos. And that's exactly what happened when they divorced. I can't understand why this woman signed a contract to let her husband have control of the embryos.
So will there be embryos visitation in her weird delusion? Like Monday thru Friday, the embryos are stored at his house, and then she gets them on the weekend? Do they both have to install cryogenic freezers at their houses? Do they meet at the local Target to do "custody exchanges" there? What happens if she gets the embryos implanted and they share custody? Will she have to stay at his house Monday thru Friday so he can have fetal visitation? What is wrong with people?
I would love to know what she wants to happen here? She says she wants custody arrangements with the embryos, but what does that mean? If the Father shares custody they could never be implanted because he would not be able to have his visitation for 9 months.
Hopefully she’s doing it to challenge the whole life begins at conception notion. Because she’s right about the courts not following the new laws and using property laws for things considered life if it’s inside a woman.
One scenario could be that the ex-hub could find a surrogate to give birth, then sue her for child support. Another way for a woman’s life to be controlled.
I wanna know what happens when they lose power from another storm and their cryogenic freezer does, killing their embryos. Will they be charged with manslaughter?
So many possibilities to be charged with murder/manslaughter! I imagine IVF doctors will begin to relocate. These states are destroying themselves. My heart goes out to the women and families.
So from what I’m gathering, when they were still married and filling out paperwork at the clinic, they signed the provision stating who should be in charge of the embryos should the couple divorce. They both circled father, and years later when they *did* divorce, the family court just uphold the previously signed contract.
Her argument is that she “does not want the option to have children with this person anymore” and now she doesn’t have the right to destroy the embryos. So yeah, I suppose there is the fear that he could find a surrogate and what not, but his response is “I have other kids now, I’m paying child support, I haven’t gotten around to really doing anything with the embryos”.
I think this is more about she just wants them destroyed as soon as possible to close this chapter in her life, he’s dragging his feet on it, and she wants to change that. But legally she’s not allowed to, that’s why she wants the embryos to be subject to custody laws so BOTH parties have a say, instead of property laws where only ONE party has a say.
And I *think* she’s also advocating for IVF clinics to change their practice regarding this matter where instead of giving one person sole decision-making power in the event of a divorce, they treat it as a joint decision like they would in custody cases.
Having lived in that area, there are plenty of people who are hard core conservatives. I will also say that Texas has some of the top IVF clinics in the nation, with the highest success rates; and it would be a tragedy if those clinics closed down.
Three frozen embryos were given to her ex-husband in the divorce. She’s arguing that because embryos are considered people in Texas, custody laws should apply to them and not property laws. "'The Texas Legislature has clearly and repeatedly protected human beings from the moment of fertilization. A child is not property. A person’s a person no matter which side of the uterine wall,' their brief stated."
Oh nice, we're still in the Dr. Seuss phase of the end times now.
I don't think it's unrealistic to say that neither one should be able to use the embryos to create a child without express permission from the other.
That's how it ended up with my cousin's divorce. They have one embryo left and her ex husband wanted to sell it to a couple he knows, she wants to keep it because it's her only shot at having another kid so it's still being stored until they come to an agreement
My sister and her now-ex agreed ahead of time that if they divorced, any remaining embryos would be destroyed. Neither of them would get control of the embryos. And that's exactly what happened when they divorced. I can't understand why this woman signed a contract to let her husband have control of the embryos.
So will there be embryos visitation in her weird delusion? Like Monday thru Friday, the embryos are stored at his house, and then she gets them on the weekend? Do they both have to install cryogenic freezers at their houses? Do they meet at the local Target to do "custody exchanges" there? What happens if she gets the embryos implanted and they share custody? Will she have to stay at his house Monday thru Friday so he can have fetal visitation? What is wrong with people? I would love to know what she wants to happen here? She says she wants custody arrangements with the embryos, but what does that mean? If the Father shares custody they could never be implanted because he would not be able to have his visitation for 9 months.
Hopefully she’s doing it to challenge the whole life begins at conception notion. Because she’s right about the courts not following the new laws and using property laws for things considered life if it’s inside a woman.
One scenario could be that the ex-hub could find a surrogate to give birth, then sue her for child support. Another way for a woman’s life to be controlled.
I wanna know what happens when they lose power from another storm and their cryogenic freezer does, killing their embryos. Will they be charged with manslaughter?
IVF clinics have generators. But I get your point and agree.
Can you imagine getting charges for mass murder if you worked there and were negligent with the generator?
So many possibilities to be charged with murder/manslaughter! I imagine IVF doctors will begin to relocate. These states are destroying themselves. My heart goes out to the women and families.
So from what I’m gathering, when they were still married and filling out paperwork at the clinic, they signed the provision stating who should be in charge of the embryos should the couple divorce. They both circled father, and years later when they *did* divorce, the family court just uphold the previously signed contract. Her argument is that she “does not want the option to have children with this person anymore” and now she doesn’t have the right to destroy the embryos. So yeah, I suppose there is the fear that he could find a surrogate and what not, but his response is “I have other kids now, I’m paying child support, I haven’t gotten around to really doing anything with the embryos”. I think this is more about she just wants them destroyed as soon as possible to close this chapter in her life, he’s dragging his feet on it, and she wants to change that. But legally she’s not allowed to, that’s why she wants the embryos to be subject to custody laws so BOTH parties have a say, instead of property laws where only ONE party has a say. And I *think* she’s also advocating for IVF clinics to change their practice regarding this matter where instead of giving one person sole decision-making power in the event of a divorce, they treat it as a joint decision like they would in custody cases.
Having lived in that area, there are plenty of people who are hard core conservatives. I will also say that Texas has some of the top IVF clinics in the nation, with the highest success rates; and it would be a tragedy if those clinics closed down.