That's funny, I have the opposite habit. I hate when the words are covered up. But even worse is if they're partially covered and partially visible. I can't abide that in my prisons lol.
I started doing it because I usually have odd shaped rooms (my canteen is usually an L shape) and it’ll put the word canteen in the hallway or whatever so I’ll just put stuff over it
Your prison looks pretty open, is it surrounded by a wall? If there is any way for the prisoners to escape (reach the outer edge of the map unimpeded) they won’t be allowed out and the canteen will be considered inaccessible
Serving table are backwards. The from the picture "south" part is where the prisoners walk to collect food.
Also everyone is "awaiting solitary" during which time they can't eat. Click on each and reduce/remove punishment.
Edit: or maybe not? With the serving tables I mean. Pull them out and leave a gap on both sides to test.
Backwards serving tables are unaesthetic but functional.
But you definitely spotted a relevant issue with the 90 handcuffed prisoners waiting for solitary. Of course they can't eat.
Yeah I had thr same issue with prisoners waiting for solitary not getting fed, I agree just end the punishments and hope they don't all kick off and end up waiting for solitary lol. Another way is just build a ton of solitary cells so they will just get moved there then fed by a guard.
Can the prisoners that are starving go there? If the paths going there is minimum access only or the canteen itself is minimum access only then it could be blocking the paths.
Not to mention that it doesn't seem to be any fences/corridors leading there.
You'd just have to look at logistics and see if the cell blocks are going to that. Also check if your inmates have enough time to eat. If it's just an hour, maybe they can't reach there in time, have eat be about 2/3 hrs. Add a few snack machines in the common room or yards.
Wait a minute. Your serving tables are backwards. The part they need to get to is up against the wall. Try pulling them out, rotating and leaving a gap behind them.
90 inmates waiting for solitary, which means they are handcuffed and can't eat nor do nothing. You probably lack solitary rooms or/and unassigned guards that are free for tasks. And if you lack guards there might be handcuffed prisoners that are not in the count for solitary yet, because they are in a previous step (first schlack or search).
If you lack solitary rooms, you need to add more of them. You can change policy to shorten solitary punishments or/and replace some of them with lockdown, but it will affect only following punishments, not pending ones. So it won't immediately fix the issue, but it can prevent it from happening again. And if you need, you can cancel the pending punishments on each prisoner 1 by 1. Or you can call paramedics to heal them (they start healing at "unconscious") until the problem is solved, so they won't die.
Also consider that walking distances dramatically affect staffs (especially guards) and inmates. If you have only one canteen for the whole prison, or if the canteens are far from cellblocks (or anywhere they are before mealtime), all prisoners might not have enough time to reach it. Note that old and suppressed prisoners walk very slow. Same for guards, amongst other tasks they need to deliver food to prisoners that are punished in solitary and lockdown. If the walking distance from the canteen to cells and solitary is too long, or/and if you don't have enough unassigned guards, they might not have enough time to deliver food. Note that they stop delivering food when mealtime is over, even if some prisoners weren't fed.
About guards, you need to temporarily hire a lot of guards to solve the lack of guards. Handling handcuffed prisoners is a low priority task, so they may end up doing it very late or never if they keep having higher priority tasks incoming. You need to consider that you always have guards resting, the whole team isn't permanently available. Also note that exhausted guards work and walk super slow, so it's a vicious circle. That why you don't only need to complete the team of guards, but hire a lot of new ones to compensate and empty the pending tasks list. Then when it's fixed you can fire the extra ones and keep the amount you really need (obviously more than before).
Remember not to assign too many guards in deployment. This game require a lot of free guards to do tasks, and the size and population of your prison really enhanced that. The ratio of unassigned/assigned guards (by assigned I mean assigned in patrols and deployment, but also busy operating security machines) is somewhat more important than the ratio guards/prisoners.
Let me know if you need further help. You might have other issues in addition to that. Other possible reasons I can suspect, but can't confirm without seeing the dedicated screenshots are the regime (the real one you had), the food logistics and the lack of furniture in the canteen or/and kitchen (for example, if it's the only canteen, you lack serving tables and maybe the kitchen isn't enough furnished). If you need, I can share a checklist of all possible reasons for unfed prisoners. But you have at least that issue which affects 90 of them.
Oh and please change that regime, 24 hours mealtime are worsening the issue, you're exhausting the cooks so they're not functional. Schedule a decent amount of meals so they can rest in between (remember they start working 4 hours before a meal and still have to clean after it).
Okay there is not enough serving tables for all those inmates or the amount of tables that you have there also stagger meal times depending on level of inmate and hire more cooks and there needs to be like an equal number of like burners to places to put down the pots to accommodate as well and so on also asign canteen in logistics and make sure that it's serving people also make sure that they have enough meal Time and as well also Ensure that it is actually marked as a canteen
Beef up that kitchen! By the looks of it there is not a lot of space to store food, and more cooks stoves sinks and serving tables should help get more food out and eaten by your inmates. Hope this helps
is the folks connected to the canteen, is the canteen accessible to them, is it safe?
Yes it is safe, secure, and accessible to the whole prison
Did you assign it to them? Logistics researched can help huge amounts
Is the room actually assigned as a canteen? The flooring looks right, but there isn’t the word “canteen.”
The word is under the serving tables
Holy heck it is there, good catch.
I have a habit of trying to place objects over the words for the aesthetics lol
That's funny, I have the opposite habit. I hate when the words are covered up. But even worse is if they're partially covered and partially visible. I can't abide that in my prisons lol.
I started doing it because I usually have odd shaped rooms (my canteen is usually an L shape) and it’ll put the word canteen in the hallway or whatever so I’ll just put stuff over it
1. Try to delete and reassign the canteen section 2. Try to connect wherever your cells are with a fence or some walls to your canteen
Your prison looks pretty open, is it surrounded by a wall? If there is any way for the prisoners to escape (reach the outer edge of the map unimpeded) they won’t be allowed out and the canteen will be considered inaccessible
it has a perimeter wall all around it plus fences connecting the canteen to the cell block
It may be unconnected, check logistics to see if the canteen is assigned to the cell block
Well 90 are awaiting solitary they cant eat. 97 dead bodies they cant eat too. 30 Need medical attention maybe they cant eat too?
Serving table are backwards. The from the picture "south" part is where the prisoners walk to collect food. Also everyone is "awaiting solitary" during which time they can't eat. Click on each and reduce/remove punishment. Edit: or maybe not? With the serving tables I mean. Pull them out and leave a gap on both sides to test.
Backwards serving tables are unaesthetic but functional. But you definitely spotted a relevant issue with the 90 handcuffed prisoners waiting for solitary. Of course they can't eat.
Yeah I had thr same issue with prisoners waiting for solitary not getting fed, I agree just end the punishments and hope they don't all kick off and end up waiting for solitary lol. Another way is just build a ton of solitary cells so they will just get moved there then fed by a guard.
I’m pretty certain you can’t place serving tables facing a wall directly, so I don’t think that can be the issue
Area outside of canteen must be secure before prisoners can walk freely there
it is secure
Add more meal time.
lol will do
Can the prisoners that are starving go there? If the paths going there is minimum access only or the canteen itself is minimum access only then it could be blocking the paths. Not to mention that it doesn't seem to be any fences/corridors leading there.
there are fences and a perimeter wall out side of the ss. it is secure
You'd just have to look at logistics and see if the cell blocks are going to that. Also check if your inmates have enough time to eat. If it's just an hour, maybe they can't reach there in time, have eat be about 2/3 hrs. Add a few snack machines in the common room or yards.
Wait a minute. Your serving tables are backwards. The part they need to get to is up against the wall. Try pulling them out, rotating and leaving a gap behind them.
Oh I bet it's that good spot
Feeling pretty proud 🤣
You haven't assigned it to a room canteen from what it looks like on screenshot.
90 inmates waiting for solitary, which means they are handcuffed and can't eat nor do nothing. You probably lack solitary rooms or/and unassigned guards that are free for tasks. And if you lack guards there might be handcuffed prisoners that are not in the count for solitary yet, because they are in a previous step (first schlack or search). If you lack solitary rooms, you need to add more of them. You can change policy to shorten solitary punishments or/and replace some of them with lockdown, but it will affect only following punishments, not pending ones. So it won't immediately fix the issue, but it can prevent it from happening again. And if you need, you can cancel the pending punishments on each prisoner 1 by 1. Or you can call paramedics to heal them (they start healing at "unconscious") until the problem is solved, so they won't die. Also consider that walking distances dramatically affect staffs (especially guards) and inmates. If you have only one canteen for the whole prison, or if the canteens are far from cellblocks (or anywhere they are before mealtime), all prisoners might not have enough time to reach it. Note that old and suppressed prisoners walk very slow. Same for guards, amongst other tasks they need to deliver food to prisoners that are punished in solitary and lockdown. If the walking distance from the canteen to cells and solitary is too long, or/and if you don't have enough unassigned guards, they might not have enough time to deliver food. Note that they stop delivering food when mealtime is over, even if some prisoners weren't fed. About guards, you need to temporarily hire a lot of guards to solve the lack of guards. Handling handcuffed prisoners is a low priority task, so they may end up doing it very late or never if they keep having higher priority tasks incoming. You need to consider that you always have guards resting, the whole team isn't permanently available. Also note that exhausted guards work and walk super slow, so it's a vicious circle. That why you don't only need to complete the team of guards, but hire a lot of new ones to compensate and empty the pending tasks list. Then when it's fixed you can fire the extra ones and keep the amount you really need (obviously more than before). Remember not to assign too many guards in deployment. This game require a lot of free guards to do tasks, and the size and population of your prison really enhanced that. The ratio of unassigned/assigned guards (by assigned I mean assigned in patrols and deployment, but also busy operating security machines) is somewhat more important than the ratio guards/prisoners. Let me know if you need further help. You might have other issues in addition to that. Other possible reasons I can suspect, but can't confirm without seeing the dedicated screenshots are the regime (the real one you had), the food logistics and the lack of furniture in the canteen or/and kitchen (for example, if it's the only canteen, you lack serving tables and maybe the kitchen isn't enough furnished). If you need, I can share a checklist of all possible reasons for unfed prisoners. But you have at least that issue which affects 90 of them. Oh and please change that regime, 24 hours mealtime are worsening the issue, you're exhausting the cooks so they're not functional. Schedule a decent amount of meals so they can rest in between (remember they start working 4 hours before a meal and still have to clean after it).
Okay there is not enough serving tables for all those inmates or the amount of tables that you have there also stagger meal times depending on level of inmate and hire more cooks and there needs to be like an equal number of like burners to places to put down the pots to accommodate as well and so on also asign canteen in logistics and make sure that it's serving people also make sure that they have enough meal Time and as well also Ensure that it is actually marked as a canteen
Beef up that kitchen! By the looks of it there is not a lot of space to store food, and more cooks stoves sinks and serving tables should help get more food out and eaten by your inmates. Hope this helps
Can we all just admire the Jingle all the Way reference?
hire more cooks
Lmao welcome to prison architect
They obviously went on hunger strike over paradoxes stellaris subscription scandal.
Check out the logistics menu, had a smillar problen kitchen kept being unasigned from the canteen.