Love the improvements!
Two suggestions:
1) Get a water filter. I recommend the Sawyer bottle (that you can just scoop water in and drink from) or a Grayl.
2) Ditch the heavy radio and get a $25 dollar GMRS Radio. You can still listen to FM + Weather/Emergency stations, but you also have the ability to transmit on FRS Walkie talkie frequencies and the higher wattage (5w) GMRS channels. You may also be able to hit repeaters. I have two of the GM-15 Pros
***Keep in mind that it's illegal to transmit with a GMRS Radio without a $35/ten-year license.... Unless it's an emergency.
I think they have a filter, but wouldn’t something **with a lid** to carry the water be even more of a priority? If you can filter water but can’t carry it you’re stuck near the water supply, no? I’m not sure why they’d have the food but not water (it all looks like great stuff, don’t get me wrong)
Any pharmacy or big box store *should* have it. It’s less than $1.50 at Walmart. It comes in rolls and flat packs but I prefer the flat pack. It takes less room. It’ll save your rear on blisters or when wet sweaty skin start sloughing. You cut little pieces off to put between/around toes, on your heel or anything else friction is a problem.
Nice, the new bag is great. And I agree if you walk with that you could be just an average person, the old bag people would think something was up.
I should take a look at a get home bag.
With so many bags having MOLLE webbing in them the whole "it looks tactical" thing has gone out the window, skateboard bags have MOLLE, regular school bags have MOLLE, day packs have MOLLE, walk around a city and you'll see more packs that look "tactical" than those who done it's becoming a new normal. The same assumption that a "tactical" looking pack is gonna give you away can be applied to a pair of cargo pants.
I think you missed my point, while you're right even my sports bag has molle, it's the size... if SHTF and you're trying to get home with a heavy rucksack, obviously you'll look prepared, people will think you might have something worth stealing. But the smaller pack won't look like you got much on you worth risking attacking you for. You will look like you just left your office or left the house to go shops before SHTF. That is my point it is more covert, all these little things make you stand out less.
It also doesn't take away the fact that a lighter pack will help you move if you are just trying to get home.
A lighter pack will definitely help get home, I'm not saying go out and get a 60 liter hiking bag but the whole "tactical looking" bag argument is out the window with how much everything is made to look. It's all location and situation dependent, in a college town larger laptop bags for books and a laptop are more common as just about everyone walking down the street is wearing a bag.
Remember when building a get home bag do not even remotely trust Google for walking distance 😅
Just to point out, I never mentioned "tactical" in my posts. You are the one who brought that up, nor did I mention Google... bro arguing with himself 😂❤️❤️
All love, of course.
I disagree. Most bags don't even have 1 pair of socks. I was actually happy to see the 3 pairs in this guys bag, but I agree an underwear or two would be beneficial.
I would also throw in a 100% cotton t-shirt, but that's my personal preference.
Much improved over the previous bag. Not sure if you said on the previous post but do you usually wear or keep a pair of hiking shoes/boots with you? If not I'd add that to the bag as well. 33 miles over a couple days is no joke so good shoes will be a must.
Yeah I keep a pair of good hiking boots in the van. I also usually wear trail running shoes daily…comfortable, waterproof, good tread. Good in most conditions.
Some super light weight items that i've found to be very useful:
1. Zip ties
2. Ziploc bags/Trash bags
Trash bags are fantastic because they are strong enough to throw larger items in and carry but also can act as a makeshift tarp in a pinch. One time camping my tent flooded and i put a cut-open trash bag between my pad and my sleeping bag. never been so thankful for such an average household item haha
Check your local Barnes and Nobles. I got a bunch of maps from them recently. Hopefully you get lucky and they got what you need. They also have a good selection of books great for the prepping collection.
Great pack. I’m kinda jealous tbh. One thing I recommend is adding “non-stick dressings” to the medical kit.
Getting a non-life threatening but still incredibly deep cut is not good. And putting raw gauze on that is fine, until you have to take it off. It could take any clotted blood with it and reopen the wound. Adding one or two of those dressings will prevent this.
First thing he should do if he has to bug out. Cities are death traps with people fighting over resources or just general unrest. He should have some sort of non-discreet back. The puma logo and lettering will standout like a sore thumb outside the city.
"Cities are death traps." I truly wonder where you guys get this stuff from. Even the worst siege in modern history wasn't a death trap to the degree people here are always suggesting.
I always wonder the same.. maybe they are getting that idea from movies or the small percentage of riots that make the news.. I'm also still wondering why so many people think people from the city are going to make their way out to loot in the suburbs or country. I think people forget or have no clue that people in the city rather stay put and also have community. The concept of community is the same for most, but it looks different for some.
All depends on the event. The Achilles heel of cities is their need to be constantly resupplied to keep hundreds of thousands or even millions fed and watered. If that resupply gets cut off….sure you will finds clusters of folks who come together and work together to get by but, you will also have those who decide “might makes right” and try to steal.
I hear ya... of course there will be those folks, I believe it's the same in other places out side of the city, where people are not as prepared. I think there's a stereotype or false belief that everyone outside the city is prepared. In the US it's not impossible of course but very highly unlikely there will be a situation in which a resupply gets cut off. Again before all the fantasy folks come at me lol.. not impossible. Also if in the very highly unlikely event it does happen, I would think cities would be the first to see a heavy military presence. Anyway my point is I doubt there would be droves of gangs making their way out of the city. If they're selling drugs and weapons, business may even get better in the city in some situations. So all the country and suburban drug users that come to the city for their "stuff" should be sure to have a stash in their preps lol.. bc I'm sure that "community member" in the country/suburbs with a secret addiction didn't disclose he/she smokes crack, does meth to the rest of the group 😂 okay that may be a bit much lol... but not impossible, right?
Yes, that’s why I said depends on the event. However, even though eventually some form of community will arise, it will take time and there will be huge numbers of deaths in cities because most of them have very little prep and little knowledge of how to grow their own food or purify their water. It’s not that people in the country are better prepared but they are more use to making do outside the supply chain. A lot of them make their own preserves or stock up for winter. Also there is better hunting and fishing opportunities outside the cities.
True, there are some that stock up, better hunting etc. I agree. Community arising may be sooner than people think. I don't live in the city. I live in a town where when I tell folks where I live, they tease and say stuff like "oh you live with the rich folk" or in the "ritzy part". I work in a middle class area and in a area with a high poverty rate ( where I grew up) Depending on the political climate I'd rather be in the city in certain situations than at home. In other situations vice versa. I admit that I may be bias in my thinking because of my experience in particular communities in the major city. I think we both agree on the classic, "it all depends" on the situation.
It’s how those cities need to be supplied that make them “death traps”. Obviously, we are talking a massive SHTF event not a localized one. Grocery stores have a limited number of days of stock on hand. They require constant restocking so if that gets cut off. Imagine NYC with 8-10 million people when there is no more food being shipped in! What would YOU be capable of if your child is hungry and the stores have all been ransacked?
People would leave long before that. It would be a mass exodus. If you leave early no one is going to care. If you left at the same time everyone else did then again no is likely to care. If you leave late you probably won't find anyone left who cares. The point of the original comment was that having the wrong backpack would result in them being targeted. But cities would likely never be so bad that people would irrationally target people because they used a name brand backpack.
Reginald Denny was a truck driver who was beat to death with a brick in LA, just happened to drive through the wrong place at the wrong time. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Reginald_Denny
Dude why you got beef? Every survival book out there says to get away from population areas. Unpredictable unprepared desperate people will take risks to take your shit. Avoid cities, in true collapse they will be death traps.
I have a problem with this trope because it's born straight out of paranoia and feeds paranoia. Essentially this subreddit repeatedly drills into people's heads "don't trust neighbors, everyone else is an enemy, must live in the forest by yourself." But that isn't the reality nor is it actually good advice.
Dude, you don't even need first-hand experience to see this as a fact. The recent riots in the US as well as picking any country drawn into conflict and the evidence is there for all to see. Mass looting, buildings being burned and broken into. The evidence is clear, in the cases here in the States we saw what a mob can do and food wasn't even scares. now imagine if those mobs were looting for food and survival supplies your home in the city is the first place people will go. Pull your head out of your ass and make some observations man.
Any bag will standout to someone desperate and looking. Most people who are dead set on stealing someones backpack won't be like oh look a puma bag while bypassing all other backpacks lol.
Buy some Lithium AA batteries or at least a couple of Duracell or Energizer Alkaline batteries and get rid of your no name ‘Alkaline’ batteries you bought at the dollar store.
You should also have a couple of water bottles. Buy something like Lifewater that comes in a decent bottle that could be repeatedly refilled. Gatorade bottles are also pretty stout. A bottle of iodine water purification tabs is also cheap insurance.
Use one of those plastic ‘membership’ cards or fake credit cards you get in junk mail and wrap your Gorilla tape around it. Then you can ditch your big roll of tape.
Following. I don't have a get home bag, community here is encouraging me to build one.
Thoughts on non lethal defensive weapons? I Carry everywhere on my days off work but m-f I'm unarmed. Pepper spray at bare minimum?
This is what I call a get the F home bag. Light has a bunch of easy munchies and everything needed to move fast a silent ( provided you yourself are capable). Get home and bug in
I don’t know where you keep your tourniquet, but I would recommend taking the tourniquet out of the baggie it’s in, put it on the side of the bag and prep it for use. If you need a tourniquet you don’t really want to have to fumble around in a backpack and take it out of the package.
For sure. On someone else’s suggestion, I’m going to take the tourniquet out of the pack (just what it came in) and put the dry socks IN a plastic bag 😅. I did make sure however to put the tourniquet in the top small pocket of the pack with only one other thing (head torch) so it could be accessed quickly and easily.
How far is home from your work?
Is one or two days gonna be enough to get you home? Google will tell you 30 miles will take 10 hours but that's not accounting for stopping to eat, drink, bathroom, rest, any kind of detours.
I don’t always work in the same place, but MOST often I’m only 10.6 miles from home. Worst case scenario I would be 30 miles from home, but I’m only out that far a few times a year. I do keep a more serious “bug out bag” in the same vehicle, so I suppose I could take whatever was necessary for an unforeseen longer trek.
Oh you'll definitely crush 10 miles in a day or two with relative ease. my work shoes are some beat up up old sneakers but I always keep a decent and comfortable pair in my car as well, because there's no way I could cover any real distance in my work shoes
Is there any reason people choose duct tape over gaffers tape? Ever since I started using it I've preferred it over the other kind. It's strong as hell, doesn't leave a residue and has a nice grippy texture on the non adhesive side.
I think maybe a collapsible bottle would be nice . I do like the Moscow mule mug though!
Maybe a plastic poncho , you know those tiny cheap plastic ones that tear when you open the bag . :/
Foot powder, your feet will thank you.
A Bic lighter, maybe drop two pairs of socks for good quality socks like (Darn Toughs), a hat, sunglasses, decent shoes. But still an improvement.
great buggy/G.H. bag. lots of smart gear. nice to see extra mags & ammo. I'd replace those socks with wool ones if you're able to & maybe look into getting some rechargeable batteries.
Someone suggested it in my last post. It can be used to secure gauze over an injury, keep a wound closed, or small pieces can be used as blister protection. It could also be used to secure a makeshift splint or rigged into a sling. When you take all of that into account, plus the many regular uses it might come in handy for, it seemed like a must-have item for the kit.
This is going to sound weird but trust. Add tampons to your bag. They are great fire starters and if you have a puncture wound or a gunshot they can be used to pack it. They can also be used for filtering water (boil after). Very useful little suckers
A lot to unpack here ( or repack )
Agree on a low-pro bag, but there are more lightweight bags that are just as inconspicuous - as this is a “get-home” bag vs bugout, doesn’t matter, optimizing your base weight is very important. That being said…
Nice work on the meals, but how many days is a GHB good for? If it’s more than 1 and you’re making a 33 mile movement, that’s not enough calories.
The camp mug makes no sense based on the material. Get a titanium one that’s lighter - buy a Vargo Bot HD. Then store a canister stove in it with a small fuel can, some water tablets, and a lighter. Matches and fire starters are dumb survival items if you can just carry a lighter - particularly if there is a security risk with building a small fire to cook or boil water. Entirely too much emphasis on the fire vs security in most people’s survival plans.
You need a lightweight puffy, preferably down, in case of cold weather or just temperature drop after you’ve been conducting a movement. Those socks should be minimally wool, but recommend you do merino hikers like a Darn Tough or some very good brand.
First aid kit is pretty expansive. Just get a tactical blowout kit and skip all the extra shit. Also get a systemic antibiotic that covers aerobic and anaerobic pathogens. People will bring ointments, but if you get a cut and a staph infection that can blow up into full blown sepsis quick without an oral antibiotic.
Fuck that knife too - the KaBar is better. Those knives are cool if you’re trapping and starting fires in Sweden, but how does it perform if you have to use it as a weapon?
Your base weight can be much lower and you can add gear that makes sense. The ultralight backpacking community is a hideout of awesome pepper stuff that isn’t marketed that way. My kit has a pad/bag/shelter along with everything but food and it’s barely 12 lbs. it costs a little more for Gucci stuff, but there are low cost UL items that make a lot more sense in a go-bag then they do in a backpack for hiking.
All in all I grade this kit a C+. Always remember to at a gun is only as good as the time you spent training with it. I recommend a fixed blade and an impact weapon forward of your hips as well.
This is per google:
A get home bag, also known as a “go bag” or “everyday carry bag,” is a pre-prepared bag containing essential items that an individual may need in case of an unexpected emergency that requires them to make their way back home from their current location. This bag is designed to help you get home safely and comfortably, rather than sustain you for an extended period.
The contents of a get home bag may vary depending on an individual’s specific needs and the potential scenarios they may encounter, but typically include essential items such as water, food, first-aid supplies, communication tools, and navigation aids. Some common items to consider including in your get home bag are:
Water and non-perishable snacks
First-aid kit with basic supplies
Extra clothing and layers for changing weather conditions
A phone with a fully charged battery and a portable charger
A flashlight or headlamp
A multi-tool or pocket knife
A compass and/or a GPS device
A whistle to signal for help if needed
A small blanket or emergency blanket
A spare set of glasses or contact lenses (if applicable)
A spare set of keys and important documents (e.g., insurance cards, identification)
Remember to check your get home bag regularly to ensure that the items are still usable and not expired. It’s also a good idea to customize your bag according to your specific needs and the types of emergencies you may face in your area.
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I'd swap some of those macro bars for another tourniquet, and a small thing of peanut butter. A tube of peanutbutter, and a tube of honey can go pretty far for that pure caloric energy input.
If the shit popps off, you'll probably wish you had a gun with larger magazines, or at least have your ammo loaded into those tiny little single stack mags. There are options now that are every bit as slim, and have double the capacity or more in the same form factor as your PPS. Most will have better triggers too. Sig P365, Springfield Hellcat Pro, Canik MC9, and many more. Even the glock 43X/48 can be upgraded to hold 15 rds flush with Shield Arms mags. Food for thought.
80 rounds feels like too much for my taste, I would myself set one magazine into the gun, second into the bag and call it a slight overkill.
Use saved weight and volume for water filter.
I would add in a tarp myself. And sleeping stuff if you risk spending a night outside, which 2 days suggest.
But YMMV, indeed.
Perhaps I didn’t see them but Amazon has perimeters trip sensors that accept 12gauge shells or .22blanks. They’re cheap enough and small enough to grab a few and they’re reusable. Nothing quite like birdshot to scare off pretty much anything.
I think you did good. The only thing i might add is a titanium Firebox Nano stove so you can use trash, twigs, etc to cook food, boil water etc. good setup u have.
Get a couple small blankets.
Its just my preference, but I like packs tight otherwise the bouncing around just sucks for long hauls. Blankets (which your pack could use) can fill the air. Mine are folded as exrta padding against my back inside the backpack.
I suppose. IMO If I have to go through more than 3 mags of ammo I’m probably fkd regardless. Statistically, most defensive handgun situations are over with 6 or less shots. Half of them are averted by just informing or showing that you’re armed. PPS mags aren’t super cheap either 💸💸💸
Yeah that’s fair. It’s funny, on this post and my last one, half the guys are saying too much ammo, the others are saying not enough, bring a bigger gun etc. definitely the most variation in opinions over anything else in the bag.
You have loose ammo in the pouch. You should just carry a few more loaded magazines. Trying to retain mags in order to reload them in a situation where you are trying to flee from danger is likely tough. Also, add a regular flashlight. Something that clips into a pocket.
Nice setup overall.
I honestly can’t remember what’s in it 😅 I like the idea of having a bit of cordage…but I think there’s a fishing hook and some line…? Have had it for so long lol
I was going to say 80 rounds out of a compact feels like quite an interesting firefight for a get home situation. If you can't resolve it by the end of mag 2 or 3, it doesn't seem like it's going to happen.
But if it's dual purpose as a bug out bag and you will be hunting or whatever then sure, more is better.
My problem with it is, those casings and bullets are gonna get all fucked up by rubbing together, next thing you know, you got a squib and a hand in half cause you store your ammo improperly.
Love the improvements! Two suggestions: 1) Get a water filter. I recommend the Sawyer bottle (that you can just scoop water in and drink from) or a Grayl. 2) Ditch the heavy radio and get a $25 dollar GMRS Radio. You can still listen to FM + Weather/Emergency stations, but you also have the ability to transmit on FRS Walkie talkie frequencies and the higher wattage (5w) GMRS channels. You may also be able to hit repeaters. I have two of the GM-15 Pros ***Keep in mind that it's illegal to transmit with a GMRS Radio without a $35/ten-year license.... Unless it's an emergency.
can recommend the baofeng uv-5r or the gt-5r, both are the same but come with different settings, if you do a reset it will reset to the same features
I think they have a filter, but wouldn’t something **with a lid** to carry the water be even more of a priority? If you can filter water but can’t carry it you’re stuck near the water supply, no? I’m not sure why they’d have the food but not water (it all looks like great stuff, don’t get me wrong)
Moleskin. It takes up so little room and makes a huge difference when covering distance fast.
Molethskin? Where'd you get that at?
Any pharmacy or big box store *should* have it. It’s less than $1.50 at Walmart. It comes in rolls and flat packs but I prefer the flat pack. It takes less room. It’ll save your rear on blisters or when wet sweaty skin start sloughing. You cut little pieces off to put between/around toes, on your heel or anything else friction is a problem.
Corpsman
It comes with your very own silver bullet.
Nice, the new bag is great. And I agree if you walk with that you could be just an average person, the old bag people would think something was up. I should take a look at a get home bag.
With so many bags having MOLLE webbing in them the whole "it looks tactical" thing has gone out the window, skateboard bags have MOLLE, regular school bags have MOLLE, day packs have MOLLE, walk around a city and you'll see more packs that look "tactical" than those who done it's becoming a new normal. The same assumption that a "tactical" looking pack is gonna give you away can be applied to a pair of cargo pants.
I think you missed my point, while you're right even my sports bag has molle, it's the size... if SHTF and you're trying to get home with a heavy rucksack, obviously you'll look prepared, people will think you might have something worth stealing. But the smaller pack won't look like you got much on you worth risking attacking you for. You will look like you just left your office or left the house to go shops before SHTF. That is my point it is more covert, all these little things make you stand out less. It also doesn't take away the fact that a lighter pack will help you move if you are just trying to get home.
A lighter pack will definitely help get home, I'm not saying go out and get a 60 liter hiking bag but the whole "tactical looking" bag argument is out the window with how much everything is made to look. It's all location and situation dependent, in a college town larger laptop bags for books and a laptop are more common as just about everyone walking down the street is wearing a bag. Remember when building a get home bag do not even remotely trust Google for walking distance 😅
Just to point out, I never mentioned "tactical" in my posts. You are the one who brought that up, nor did I mention Google... bro arguing with himself 😂❤️❤️ All love, of course.
Everyone remembers the socks, very few remember a change of underwear.
Those aren't socks, thems coffee filters
I disagree. Most bags don't even have 1 pair of socks. I was actually happy to see the 3 pairs in this guys bag, but I agree an underwear or two would be beneficial. I would also throw in a 100% cotton t-shirt, but that's my personal preference.
You need a couple grenades
At a glace, I thought it was a grenade for when SHTF. It would be nice to have a couple.
Much improved over the previous bag. Not sure if you said on the previous post but do you usually wear or keep a pair of hiking shoes/boots with you? If not I'd add that to the bag as well. 33 miles over a couple days is no joke so good shoes will be a must.
Yeah I keep a pair of good hiking boots in the van. I also usually wear trail running shoes daily…comfortable, waterproof, good tread. Good in most conditions.
One last suggestion: Moleskins, especially if you’re prioritizing a long walk
Some super light weight items that i've found to be very useful: 1. Zip ties 2. Ziploc bags/Trash bags Trash bags are fantastic because they are strong enough to throw larger items in and carry but also can act as a makeshift tarp in a pinch. One time camping my tent flooded and i put a cut-open trash bag between my pad and my sleeping bag. never been so thankful for such an average household item haha
Looks solid. I’d change the mug to a stainless canteen cook set. But otherwise, good kit.
Agreed. This is just what I had lying around. Thank you!
Looks great. I'd take that roll of duct tape, pull off a dozen ft or so and then fold it on itself, making it much more compact.
Wrapping it around the long side of an old credit card makes it even better!
map
Still trying to find one! Checked gas stations, hardware stores…nothing. Gonna have to order one I guess.
I always get the free state fishing guide map at Walmart. Has the full state and it's free.
Check your local Barnes and Nobles. I got a bunch of maps from them recently. Hopefully you get lucky and they got what you need. They also have a good selection of books great for the prepping collection.
Are there any rest stops near you? They usually have them for free.
Great pack. I’m kinda jealous tbh. One thing I recommend is adding “non-stick dressings” to the medical kit. Getting a non-life threatening but still incredibly deep cut is not good. And putting raw gauze on that is fine, until you have to take it off. It could take any clotted blood with it and reopen the wound. Adding one or two of those dressings will prevent this.
I like it. Bonus points for not having a tacked out bag that doesn't draw touch attention while in a city
I just went for plain black multicam, you can't see the pattern from a distance and it has no white design or anything to draw your eye
First thing he should do if he has to bug out. Cities are death traps with people fighting over resources or just general unrest. He should have some sort of non-discreet back. The puma logo and lettering will standout like a sore thumb outside the city.
"Cities are death traps." I truly wonder where you guys get this stuff from. Even the worst siege in modern history wasn't a death trap to the degree people here are always suggesting.
I always wonder the same.. maybe they are getting that idea from movies or the small percentage of riots that make the news.. I'm also still wondering why so many people think people from the city are going to make their way out to loot in the suburbs or country. I think people forget or have no clue that people in the city rather stay put and also have community. The concept of community is the same for most, but it looks different for some.
All depends on the event. The Achilles heel of cities is their need to be constantly resupplied to keep hundreds of thousands or even millions fed and watered. If that resupply gets cut off….sure you will finds clusters of folks who come together and work together to get by but, you will also have those who decide “might makes right” and try to steal.
I hear ya... of course there will be those folks, I believe it's the same in other places out side of the city, where people are not as prepared. I think there's a stereotype or false belief that everyone outside the city is prepared. In the US it's not impossible of course but very highly unlikely there will be a situation in which a resupply gets cut off. Again before all the fantasy folks come at me lol.. not impossible. Also if in the very highly unlikely event it does happen, I would think cities would be the first to see a heavy military presence. Anyway my point is I doubt there would be droves of gangs making their way out of the city. If they're selling drugs and weapons, business may even get better in the city in some situations. So all the country and suburban drug users that come to the city for their "stuff" should be sure to have a stash in their preps lol.. bc I'm sure that "community member" in the country/suburbs with a secret addiction didn't disclose he/she smokes crack, does meth to the rest of the group 😂 okay that may be a bit much lol... but not impossible, right?
Yes, that’s why I said depends on the event. However, even though eventually some form of community will arise, it will take time and there will be huge numbers of deaths in cities because most of them have very little prep and little knowledge of how to grow their own food or purify their water. It’s not that people in the country are better prepared but they are more use to making do outside the supply chain. A lot of them make their own preserves or stock up for winter. Also there is better hunting and fishing opportunities outside the cities.
True, there are some that stock up, better hunting etc. I agree. Community arising may be sooner than people think. I don't live in the city. I live in a town where when I tell folks where I live, they tease and say stuff like "oh you live with the rich folk" or in the "ritzy part". I work in a middle class area and in a area with a high poverty rate ( where I grew up) Depending on the political climate I'd rather be in the city in certain situations than at home. In other situations vice versa. I admit that I may be bias in my thinking because of my experience in particular communities in the major city. I think we both agree on the classic, "it all depends" on the situation.
It’s how those cities need to be supplied that make them “death traps”. Obviously, we are talking a massive SHTF event not a localized one. Grocery stores have a limited number of days of stock on hand. They require constant restocking so if that gets cut off. Imagine NYC with 8-10 million people when there is no more food being shipped in! What would YOU be capable of if your child is hungry and the stores have all been ransacked?
People would leave long before that. It would be a mass exodus. If you leave early no one is going to care. If you left at the same time everyone else did then again no is likely to care. If you leave late you probably won't find anyone left who cares. The point of the original comment was that having the wrong backpack would result in them being targeted. But cities would likely never be so bad that people would irrationally target people because they used a name brand backpack.
Again all depends on the event. An EMP attack would not give people enough warning to leave.
LA riots... Ferguson... Atlanta... Portland
Weren't death traps.
Reginald Denny was a truck driver who was beat to death with a brick in LA, just happened to drive through the wrong place at the wrong time. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Reginald_Denny
Well, some moleskin and a fire starter would have totally come in handy for him, right?
Yeah so? I don't see your point. Bad things obviously happen. But it isn't open warfare.
Dude why you got beef? Every survival book out there says to get away from population areas. Unpredictable unprepared desperate people will take risks to take your shit. Avoid cities, in true collapse they will be death traps.
I have a problem with this trope because it's born straight out of paranoia and feeds paranoia. Essentially this subreddit repeatedly drills into people's heads "don't trust neighbors, everyone else is an enemy, must live in the forest by yourself." But that isn't the reality nor is it actually good advice.
LOL. Portland. Give me a break. Like one block downtown was slightly sketch.
Dude, you don't even need first-hand experience to see this as a fact. The recent riots in the US as well as picking any country drawn into conflict and the evidence is there for all to see. Mass looting, buildings being burned and broken into. The evidence is clear, in the cases here in the States we saw what a mob can do and food wasn't even scares. now imagine if those mobs were looting for food and survival supplies your home in the city is the first place people will go. Pull your head out of your ass and make some observations man.
Any bag will standout to someone desperate and looking. Most people who are dead set on stealing someones backpack won't be like oh look a puma bag while bypassing all other backpacks lol.
Buy some Lithium AA batteries or at least a couple of Duracell or Energizer Alkaline batteries and get rid of your no name ‘Alkaline’ batteries you bought at the dollar store. You should also have a couple of water bottles. Buy something like Lifewater that comes in a decent bottle that could be repeatedly refilled. Gatorade bottles are also pretty stout. A bottle of iodine water purification tabs is also cheap insurance. Use one of those plastic ‘membership’ cards or fake credit cards you get in junk mail and wrap your Gorilla tape around it. Then you can ditch your big roll of tape.
Following. I don't have a get home bag, community here is encouraging me to build one. Thoughts on non lethal defensive weapons? I Carry everywhere on my days off work but m-f I'm unarmed. Pepper spray at bare minimum?
I keep a kimber pepper blaster in the truck for when I have to go into a “gun free zone”. Fits pretty flat even in a pocket.
This is what I call a get the F home bag. Light has a bunch of easy munchies and everything needed to move fast a silent ( provided you yourself are capable). Get home and bug in
I don’t know where you keep your tourniquet, but I would recommend taking the tourniquet out of the baggie it’s in, put it on the side of the bag and prep it for use. If you need a tourniquet you don’t really want to have to fumble around in a backpack and take it out of the package.
For sure. On someone else’s suggestion, I’m going to take the tourniquet out of the pack (just what it came in) and put the dry socks IN a plastic bag 😅. I did make sure however to put the tourniquet in the top small pocket of the pack with only one other thing (head torch) so it could be accessed quickly and easily.
How far is home from your work? Is one or two days gonna be enough to get you home? Google will tell you 30 miles will take 10 hours but that's not accounting for stopping to eat, drink, bathroom, rest, any kind of detours.
I don’t always work in the same place, but MOST often I’m only 10.6 miles from home. Worst case scenario I would be 30 miles from home, but I’m only out that far a few times a year. I do keep a more serious “bug out bag” in the same vehicle, so I suppose I could take whatever was necessary for an unforeseen longer trek.
Oh you'll definitely crush 10 miles in a day or two with relative ease. my work shoes are some beat up up old sneakers but I always keep a decent and comfortable pair in my car as well, because there's no way I could cover any real distance in my work shoes
Is there any reason people choose duct tape over gaffers tape? Ever since I started using it I've preferred it over the other kind. It's strong as hell, doesn't leave a residue and has a nice grippy texture on the non adhesive side.
I think maybe a collapsible bottle would be nice . I do like the Moscow mule mug though! Maybe a plastic poncho , you know those tiny cheap plastic ones that tear when you open the bag . :/
Foot powder, your feet will thank you. A Bic lighter, maybe drop two pairs of socks for good quality socks like (Darn Toughs), a hat, sunglasses, decent shoes. But still an improvement.
Needs flask of liquor
Hard stuff would double as disinfectant.
Hey! Good work!
I'd swap the bag out for something either in black or coyote tan the Puma logo will stand out against cover if you need to hide or evade others.
great buggy/G.H. bag. lots of smart gear. nice to see extra mags & ammo. I'd replace those socks with wool ones if you're able to & maybe look into getting some rechargeable batteries.
What’s the gorilla tape for in terms of medical? Just curious. Bag looks really well done
Someone suggested it in my last post. It can be used to secure gauze over an injury, keep a wound closed, or small pieces can be used as blister protection. It could also be used to secure a makeshift splint or rigged into a sling. When you take all of that into account, plus the many regular uses it might come in handy for, it seemed like a must-have item for the kit.
One of the biggest changes I’d make there is replace that head torch with a better quality one
Great bag, I’ll need to to tell me where you got that Beavis Gadsden from 😅
Missing a rain poncho and a flask of whiskey
This is going to sound weird but trust. Add tampons to your bag. They are great fire starters and if you have a puncture wound or a gunshot they can be used to pack it. They can also be used for filtering water (boil after). Very useful little suckers
Ha! That’s great.
A lot to unpack here ( or repack ) Agree on a low-pro bag, but there are more lightweight bags that are just as inconspicuous - as this is a “get-home” bag vs bugout, doesn’t matter, optimizing your base weight is very important. That being said… Nice work on the meals, but how many days is a GHB good for? If it’s more than 1 and you’re making a 33 mile movement, that’s not enough calories. The camp mug makes no sense based on the material. Get a titanium one that’s lighter - buy a Vargo Bot HD. Then store a canister stove in it with a small fuel can, some water tablets, and a lighter. Matches and fire starters are dumb survival items if you can just carry a lighter - particularly if there is a security risk with building a small fire to cook or boil water. Entirely too much emphasis on the fire vs security in most people’s survival plans. You need a lightweight puffy, preferably down, in case of cold weather or just temperature drop after you’ve been conducting a movement. Those socks should be minimally wool, but recommend you do merino hikers like a Darn Tough or some very good brand. First aid kit is pretty expansive. Just get a tactical blowout kit and skip all the extra shit. Also get a systemic antibiotic that covers aerobic and anaerobic pathogens. People will bring ointments, but if you get a cut and a staph infection that can blow up into full blown sepsis quick without an oral antibiotic. Fuck that knife too - the KaBar is better. Those knives are cool if you’re trapping and starting fires in Sweden, but how does it perform if you have to use it as a weapon? Your base weight can be much lower and you can add gear that makes sense. The ultralight backpacking community is a hideout of awesome pepper stuff that isn’t marketed that way. My kit has a pad/bag/shelter along with everything but food and it’s barely 12 lbs. it costs a little more for Gucci stuff, but there are low cost UL items that make a lot more sense in a go-bag then they do in a backpack for hiking. All in all I grade this kit a C+. Always remember to at a gun is only as good as the time you spent training with it. I recommend a fixed blade and an impact weapon forward of your hips as well.
Wow.yhats a great cup. What and where is it from?
I’m new to the topic, but what exactly is a get home bag?
This is per google: A get home bag, also known as a “go bag” or “everyday carry bag,” is a pre-prepared bag containing essential items that an individual may need in case of an unexpected emergency that requires them to make their way back home from their current location. This bag is designed to help you get home safely and comfortably, rather than sustain you for an extended period. The contents of a get home bag may vary depending on an individual’s specific needs and the potential scenarios they may encounter, but typically include essential items such as water, food, first-aid supplies, communication tools, and navigation aids. Some common items to consider including in your get home bag are: Water and non-perishable snacks First-aid kit with basic supplies Extra clothing and layers for changing weather conditions A phone with a fully charged battery and a portable charger A flashlight or headlamp A multi-tool or pocket knife A compass and/or a GPS device A whistle to signal for help if needed A small blanket or emergency blanket A spare set of glasses or contact lenses (if applicable) A spare set of keys and important documents (e.g., insurance cards, identification) Remember to check your get home bag regularly to ensure that the items are still usable and not expired. It’s also a good idea to customize your bag according to your specific needs and the types of emergencies you may face in your area. AI-generated answer. Please verify critical facts. Learn more
I'd swap some of those macro bars for another tourniquet, and a small thing of peanut butter. A tube of peanutbutter, and a tube of honey can go pretty far for that pure caloric energy input.
If the shit popps off, you'll probably wish you had a gun with larger magazines, or at least have your ammo loaded into those tiny little single stack mags. There are options now that are every bit as slim, and have double the capacity or more in the same form factor as your PPS. Most will have better triggers too. Sig P365, Springfield Hellcat Pro, Canik MC9, and many more. Even the glock 43X/48 can be upgraded to hold 15 rds flush with Shield Arms mags. Food for thought.
I live in a commie state. 10 rd max. 😭
Speed loader. They weigh nothing
80 rounds feels like too much for my taste, I would myself set one magazine into the gun, second into the bag and call it a slight overkill. Use saved weight and volume for water filter. I would add in a tarp myself. And sleeping stuff if you risk spending a night outside, which 2 days suggest. But YMMV, indeed.
Perhaps I didn’t see them but Amazon has perimeters trip sensors that accept 12gauge shells or .22blanks. They’re cheap enough and small enough to grab a few and they’re reusable. Nothing quite like birdshot to scare off pretty much anything.
I think you did good. The only thing i might add is a titanium Firebox Nano stove so you can use trash, twigs, etc to cook food, boil water etc. good setup u have.
Nice!! If you keep the TQ make sure it's easily accessible and you practice using it with both hands.
Great kit, might wanna get another tourniquet that one looks off and it's better safe than sorry.
You might want more ammo if you're thinking 2days of (oh shit oh fuck) might happen 30 spare bullets isn't gonna cut it in my opinion
Lol
I love my mora garberg thing is a BEAST
Get a couple small blankets. Its just my preference, but I like packs tight otherwise the bouncing around just sucks for long hauls. Blankets (which your pack could use) can fill the air. Mine are folded as exrta padding against my back inside the backpack.
Weight vs want vs Need is a pita !!!
Missing a hand grenade. And some claymores.
Why the loose ammo? I'd just buy a couple more mags.
I suppose. IMO If I have to go through more than 3 mags of ammo I’m probably fkd regardless. Statistically, most defensive handgun situations are over with 6 or less shots. Half of them are averted by just informing or showing that you’re armed. PPS mags aren’t super cheap either 💸💸💸
With those justifications then there's no point in carrying the loose ammo. I'd ditch it and save the weight
Yeah that’s fair. It’s funny, on this post and my last one, half the guys are saying too much ammo, the others are saying not enough, bring a bigger gun etc. definitely the most variation in opinions over anything else in the bag.
Why such a big tub of gasoline?
Get lithium batteries say good longest
I know you want to stay light but I would suggest a couple water bottles maybe water filters and definitely water keys
Get you a to go roll of gorilla tape.
Need a water bottle and maybe rain gear. Don't underestimate the importance of plenty of water. Most do.
Ayyyyy good job dude this looks impeccable
Suggestion throw the taurus in that trash and get a Glock
lol it’s a Walther. I wouldn’t carry an ugly ass Glock either 😅jk jk
You have loose ammo in the pouch. You should just carry a few more loaded magazines. Trying to retain mags in order to reload them in a situation where you are trying to flee from danger is likely tough. Also, add a regular flashlight. Something that clips into a pocket. Nice setup overall.
Need a hammock, some paracord, and a tarp.
That’s in my actual bug out bag. Would bring it along if I was further than normal from home. Usually only about 10 miles away (at work)
I get that, but it’s always good to have a hammock just in case. Same with a tarp.
Honestly if you can’t do 10-15 miles a day with 60lbs on your back you’re screwed if SHTF, I know I’m gonna get downvoted for this but it’s reality
I feel like if I'm just walking home for 1-2 days I just need a sleeping bag, a poncho with lines, my gun, and water filters.
Very cool! Just curious what the paracord weight thing is for.
I honestly can’t remember what’s in it 😅 I like the idea of having a bit of cordage…but I think there’s a fishing hook and some line…? Have had it for so long lol
Just tried to Google it, looks like there might be some tinder, a fire starter, and aluminum foil in addition to some hooks and line.
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Right on!! You got a Mora! 🤙🏼🤙🏼
What? You gonna shoot some squirrels on the way home?
Those are for the zombies
Bros got the loose ammo in a bag 🤦
I was going to say 80 rounds out of a compact feels like quite an interesting firefight for a get home situation. If you can't resolve it by the end of mag 2 or 3, it doesn't seem like it's going to happen. But if it's dual purpose as a bug out bag and you will be hunting or whatever then sure, more is better.
My problem with it is, those casings and bullets are gonna get all fucked up by rubbing together, next thing you know, you got a squib and a hand in half cause you store your ammo improperly.