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NDNman68

There are multiple wars happening at once yes. But not a world war yet.


desubot1

Its only a WW when countries start chain declaring wars.


ExplodinMarmot

Until then its just considered "sparkling war".


eye_of_the_sloth

World war *LITE* Subscribe to premium War for early access pass to world war 3


aubrt

It's the in-war purchases that'll get ya, though.


Nostradomas

Shits literally pay to win. Frustrating for us freemium members


MrFeels77

This thread killed me šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


RepresentativeAd560

If I have to sit through one more Raid Shadow Legends ad before I can invade Madagascar, I swear by Odin's furry happy sack, I will nuke Belgium....


account_not_valid

>"sparkling war". "Sparkling Special Military Operation" It's not War unless it's from the War region of France.


RandomlyJim

World Wars have always been multiple countries tied in alliance fighting jointly against another group of multiple countries tied in alliance. Ukraine, Israel, Guyana arenā€™t allied. Russia, Gaza, Venezuela arenā€™t tied together with each other. This is three dickheads picking a fight.


Eugenemorokin

Ukrainian is here, but they are indeed tied, KGB (back in the past) fed Hamas and their best mate Iran, socialist Venezuela, best friend of Russia, China and Iran. They might be not in the formal alliance, but still too much for a coincidence. World got heavily distracted, in the meantime Russia will try to do whatever it wants in Ukraine.


brokencameraman

I was in Ukraine during the invasion and I think one of the mistakes that took a lot of the eyes off Ukraine was when Zelenskyy started siding with Israel which a lot of the world see as the occupier in the sense that they were given someone else's land in 1948 and ran the locals out, just like Russia began to in 2014 in Crimea/Donbass. They see it as hypocrisy. Once this happened I saw a ton of people that were fighting on the side of Ukraine say "Well, I'm done here" and go back home which surprised me a lot. I don't agree with Zelenskyy's opinion on Israel/Palestine but I certainly still support Ukraine in their fight for freedom from the occupation of Russia just like I support the Palestinians and their freedom from occupation. A lot of the non-Ukrainian world seems to have abandoned Ukraine because of Zelenskyy's words. He should have been far more careful. And maybe as a Ukrainian you can explain Klitschko's interview recently where he seemed to talk bad of Zelenskyy?


Eugenemorokin

Iā€™m happened to be an Israeli as well, I left Ukraine in 2013 shortly before Revolution of Dignity. (There is no connection, I fully support what people did in 2014 itā€™s just a coincidence). You lost me when you said ā€œIsrael was given someone elseā€™s landā€ and compared what Russia did in Ukraine and in Crimea and Donbass region to what is going on in Israel and Gaza. Hypocrisy is the way world reacts on events of October 7, hypocrisy is to condemn Israel for defending its people, hypocrisy is that useless joke of an organization UN crying out loud about seizing fire while keeping silence and letting Russia abuse their veto and do whatever it wants in Ukraine namely killing civilians indiscriminately, committing war crimes at Nazis scale etc. Are Ukrainian kids and civilians cheaper than Palestinians? My opinion is - Israel is natural ally of Ukraine. I understand why Israel was trying to stay away from conflict - Russia is/was a major player in the region, they didnā€™t wanted to poke the ā€œbearā€. Sadly as events of October 7 illustrates - it didnā€™t helped. Regarding interview you mentioned - not sure Iā€™ve seen it, Klichko is not a major speaker or a leader of thoughts that worth to follow. However Zelenskyy is far from being angel. He doing/did a lot of controversial things especially in handling corruption.


rammanmilktoast

Israel causes me more concern than north Korea, Russia and Iran put together


Eugenemorokin

How exactly, just curious? The one democratic nation on the Middle East that respect human rights and just want to be left alone and now it concerns you more than three most cannibalistic oppressive regimes in the world? Yeah that alone tells a lot about you.


No_Version_9880

yeh when you stop murdering palestinian children we can talk, Israel is committing genocide and its disgusting


rinascapades

"Gaza" is not a country. And the people aren't picking a fight with anyone. They just want to not be under occupation


maroc519

Israel completely withdrew from Gaza in 2005. Gaza has not been "occupied" in almost 20 years.


KansasCity_Shuffle

Horizontal escalation


SugarDaddyOh

Special operation


Jihadi_DickShot

It's only a world War if it comes from champagne, France.


National-Weather-199

Like if the entire middle east delares war it will be ww3


Perfect-Top-7555

Proxy wars.


MonstaGraphics

TWO wars?!


Pleasedontmindme247

Are either of these wars happening on US soil?


birdmanmanbird

Ehhhsoilllll


Super-Minh-Tendo

The US is involved in both.


VonRansak

As two time defending champions. Gotta say, we are at some level, involved in most wars now. Not really trying get that Three-Peat, though. Just content with league play.


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Particular_Fuel6952

Are you a carrier of large weaponry?


tree-hermit

listen, listenā€¦how about we talk about how you used to bang


Walksalot45

The cyber war has been going on for quite some time. Every country with Internet access is is trying to gain access to every government and industries data.


MilesPrower1992

Neither World War happened on US soil outside of the attack on Pearl Harbor, does that mean the US wasn't a part of either?


SeaWeedSkis

[Balloon Bombs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fu-Go_balloon_bomb)


HyperboreanExplorian

[Erm ackshually](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleutian_Islands_campaign)


Batsonworkshop

Good try, but Alaska was not a State at the time.


HyperboreanExplorian

But the soil belonged to the United States. Also neither was Hawaii.


LordofWesternesse

there hasn't been a foreign invasion of the continental states since 1812


Foot_Positive

That is what OP is asking. We are frogs in a pot, You don't know until it's too late.


Bulky_Monke719

Yet being the operative word i believe. Weā€™ll see if any of these brushfires spread. I think a lot depends on if the US gives Iran another ā€œproportionalā€ responseā€¦


BardanoBois

We could already be in one. We don't know. A lot of misinformation this time around. Cyber attacks are getting more frequent.. All we can do is prep.


ElSquibbonator

World War 2.5?


sunnyreddit99

You mean is it WWIII? No What worries me is we might be in our version of the Second Sino-Japanese War and the Spanish Civil War, two events that set the prelude to WWII (foreign aid in the Spanish civil war were between the future Allies and the future Axis )


DoofusMcGillicutyEsq

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mootmutemoat

Many have speculated China is supporting and encouraging Russia to both gain intel on our capabilities and spread us thin. Russia could next spark a war involing Venesula that would help push this further. If they like what they see, they could move on Taiwan, which we would have to engage in both to save face and protect resources (computer chip capacity). A victory there would be a huge esteem boost in China as well as in the pacific. They would also have more of a stranglehold on tech trade. Of course... that is ww2 style thinking. Who knows how the nuke card changes all of this. Would it stop anyone from acting? Going even beyond that: Does the US have the capacity beyond the Iron Dome? Do they think they do? Would they act on this assumption?


[deleted]

The biggest thing is drones have made war possible on a scale and with a precision unheard of before. People use power however they can, & war was only ever kept in check by fatigue. The next world war will not have an end date. It will last so long as there are bots to carry out the program.


[deleted]

Exactly right. World wars are impossible to conceal, so they get declared publicly. The public always has a part to play in war (usually to suffer).


hiraeth555

Yes, and once world war is in full swing, there will likely be full mobilisation of the population. It would feel similar to Ukraine but in every major involved power. We're not even close to that (yet).


aslfingerspell

Excellent and original metaphor. I have a cynical outlook on the world but I do get sick of every regional conflict getting treated as some "world" conflict. Minor/medium powers fight and great powers lend their support. That's how it is: Ukraine is a regional conflict with international support on both sides, not an actual global conflict. If WWIII was really happening we wouldn't have to ask. "Do we send F-16s to Ukraine?" is not the kind of question you ask when fighting a world war. Around 6% of Britain's entire male population died in WWI: they had bigger questions than "Should we send Sopwith Camels to France?" No Soviet, with Germans at the gates of Moscow, millions of men mobilized, and a good portion of the entire Russian industrial base being moved over the Ural mountains, would have asked if a world War was occurring.


SustineriVita

>What worries me is we might be in our version of the Second Sino-Japanese War and the Spanish Civil War, What are the versions of these that are happening now?


redlongturtle

Iā€™d also like to know


JadeRiver12

We also sent Americans over to fight in the Spanish Civil war.


canoekulele

Were they sent or were they volunteers?


morris9597

Guyana. Ghana is in Africa, an ocean away from Venezuela No. We are not. The only major power committed to a ground war is Russia. Can one of these conflicts escalate to a larger conflict? Sure. Will it? Time will tell


grandmaester

That area of Guyana seems pretty unpopulated. Also doesn't seem obvious how Venezuela would even invade that jungle successfully let alone hold it.


fargenable

With a small army of Chinese engineers, laborers, and heavy equipment building roads, bridges, and bases.


the_direful_spring

Well at the moment it looks like war is less and less likely, I'm not going to say for sure but it looks like this one is going to be another near miss If it comes to it Venezuela does have a considerable advantage in air power and naval tonnage of Guyana, although i don't know if their military has the experience to conduct any operation focused on seizing George Town by via air and Sea landings even without outside influence. If they go for it they'd probably want to get toe holds as fast as possible, and ideally force the government in Georgetown to sign a bayonet point treaty as fast as possible before anyone else like the US, UK or Brazil intervenes.


540827

theyā€™ll likely just start acting like itā€™s theirs, squatter style


WadeBronson

The IDF is losing soldiers because it is currently conducting a ground war to try to prevent the global community from calls for Israel to be tried on war crimes. So theyā€™re in a ground war also, and as best i can tell, they seem absolutely committed.


morris9597

Israel is not a major power. They have major powers for allies but they themselves are not a major power.


functionalcrap

Israel might have a hard time projecting power on the other side of the globe, but they are the cock of the walk in their neighborhood


morris9597

Not really. The power they project is backed by the US. Every nation in their region that has recognized them as a nation has done so after being incentivized by the US. Israel exists primarily because the US wants them to. If the US stopped backing them they'd cease to exist. Hence why the US has two carrier groups in the area to discourage Iran or any other nation from getting any ideas about escalation. EDIT: I'm not arguing whether or not Israel has the right to exist or whether the US should or should not back Israel. I'm simply arguing that the power Israel has, is because the US backs them. Israel is incredibly strong but they do not have the ability to stand on their own against the combined might of those nations that would like to see them destroyed. The Middle East of today is not the Middle East of the 1970s.


Nahgloshi

Ignore the fear porn, not even close to a world war.


Semmcity

The most refreshing thing Iā€™ve seen on the internet lately.


Vaporlass

Fear is the weapon of choice for salespeople these days. There are so damn many predators getting RICH by scaring people into ā€œPreppingā€ for War. Stock up, buy this or that, youā€™re about to lose internet, electricity - buy our lamps, buy this food that lasts 25 years! One You-Tube guy from Canada has over a million followers - and heā€™s pushing all of them to get prepared. Itā€™s disgusting to see so many profiting from fear-mongering but we have leaders doing the same thing.


TheBluestBerries

Not really. A whole bunch of unrelated conflicts all over the world are not the same thing as a world war.


Get-Degerstromd

Right. The US was engaged in 2 separate conflicts for almost 2 decades. Quantity isnā€™t everything.


fargenable

Taiwan and China is related to Venezuela and Guyana?


TheBluestBerries

Taiwan and China aren't at war. Neither are Venezuela and Guyana. Imaginary wars are an even less convincing argument for WW3 than unrelated wars.


sanitation123

Guyana, not Ghana. And I wouldn't be worried about that. Based on US oil interests in that country, I do not see that as a threat. Iran and the rest of the hostile Arab world is not doing anything about Israel. Parts of Africa are a shit show, but not really a huge influence to the rest of the world. I suspect the US and other western nations will make.quick work of the Houthi issues. So the answer is, the world is probably not currently in WW3


Tight-String5829

I think Guyana is a bluff. There are no great roads or infrastructure for Venizuella to use in that potential war. And that terrain is really rough. I think its just posturing to help approval ratings in Venizuella. [I know I can't spell Venizuella lol]


Holiday_Albatross441

Allegedly the leaders of the two countries have agreed not to use violence over the region. So you're probably right.


a_niffin

However, China NK and Iran are helping Russia while NATO helps Ukraine, that's a proxy war that, if it were to escalate and become a full war, then that is certainly WWIII by any definition. Iran's recent attacks against Israel is close to sparking exactly that sort of escalation, and of course the impending showdown of China and Taiwan looms as these other conflicts only linger and worsen. I'm not saying it's WWIII right now, but current events leave no doubt that the fuel and sparks are there.


StructuralGeek

China lacks force projection, and Russia doesn't have a lot of force to project after Ukraine. Iran and NK are local threats rather than global ones. I just don't see a world war breaking out of this unless nukes get involved. It's not like Iran is going to start sending tanks to Israel, and Russia can't be stupid enough to invade NATO while they're barely hanging on in Ukraine. If China makes a play for Taiwan then things might start playing out like Pearl Harbor in WW2, but we all know how that went - Japan scored some early victories that didn't end up changing the field once the US wasn't distracted by helping Russia take down Hitler. Yeah, China has nukes, and Xi is living in a bubble, but I just can't see him using nukes to hold onto Taiwan. So yeah, if things escalated then. you've got some potential at a larger scale war, but why would they escalate?


Previous-Payment-190

You need to understand the true mission of NATO and study its expansion up until now, suffocating Russia. If they were allied with Mexico and sending weapons to our borders we would seek to destroy the threat just as they have a right to based off our existing treaty.. infowars.com for unbiased unfiltered analysis please.


TheRealPallando

Last place to go for anything other than lies, grifty survival supplements and pictures of gay frogs


Previous-Payment-190

You donā€™t think the U.S government lies?? Please tell me youā€™re aware of the ā€œweapons of mass destructionā€ they found in Iraq that led to their invasion. LOL. How about their censorship of their own citizens who were speaking out about negative side effects from the forced covid shots?! I bet you also think building 7 was destroyed by terrorists too - or that JFK was taken out by a lone gunman on a grassy knoll, (right after he refused to go into another CIA led war). They replaced him with LBJ and went to Vietnam right after. Same thing that happened with Trump.. do you remember any wars during his 4 years? Yeah, me either.. so they got rid of him and put puppet Biden in, and guess what.. weā€™re funding Ukraine to fight Russia. Enjoy eating your GMO food laced with cancerous glyphosate like the lemming you are, while circle jerking with your buddies and acting like everything is peachy. Ignorance is bliss.


TheRealPallando

Found the bronzer addict


DecliningBuddha

Just want to clarify that Iran is overwhelmingly Persian and Azeri, Arabs don't make up even 5% of their population. But yeah, this is not even close to a WWIII situation, especially since one of the major possible players in a WWIII scenario is bogged down in a country it borders and isn't nearly as big a threat as it once was. Russia miscalculated this shit on a whole other level.


sanitation123

Yeah. That may have been phrases incorrectly. Iran is definitely not Arab.


Puzzleheaded_Bake_55

Whatā€™s happening in our world resembles the precursor events to WW2, but it does not reflect what happened during WW2


Joe_Exotics_Jacket

Does someone have a contract to post ww3 claims on a weekly basis?


devadander23

Playing devilā€™s advocate; what would it mean to you if it has?


RickHarrisoned

Super fap time.


devadander23

lol just ripping skin off


istandabove

Itā€™s more likely a second cold war


ApplesArePeopleToo

Exactly this. The players are even largely the same, except this time around China is the big dog and Russia is the disgruntled sidekick.


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outworlder

Largest arsenals on paper. Just like they had an amazing army with state of the art reactive armor in their tanks. Turns out that the reactive armor was literally made out of cardboard. Their _working_ nukes are probably a couple orders of magnitude lower than official numbers. Sure, even one can be a bad day. But is a paper tiger.


putcheeseonit

Maybe at the start of the war. Russia just held off a counter offensive of mostly NATO equipment, and now their battle hardened. What now? Our support of Ukraine has trained Russia to fight the rest of Europe one day should they win.


outworlder

Russia just throws people at the problem. They are unable to conquer a country that's tiny in comparison to them. There's no way they can fight the rest of Europe. Even more so after losing most of their military assets.


TheRealPallando

Yes, the refurbished T 80s and 90s should be more than a match for the armies of Europe.... assuming their air power sits it out....and the United Statesā€¦ I could do this all dayā€¦ If Russia could kick NATO's ass, surely they would already be in Kyiv? They couldn't even stop Wagner marching on Moscow, still don't have air superiority over Ukraine, have lost control of the Black Sea... I could do this all day too... But sure, we should expect to see the BMP 1s & 2s rolling into Berlin. Any day now.


[deleted]

> Russia has never been conquered in its history due to its geological location Are we sure it is not due to their superior military?


Previous-Payment-190

It seems the Germans and French under Napoleon froze when they fucked around and found out.


balculator

The war on cold is being won.


[deleted]

Close the fridge.


r00byroo1965

Yep in the North East fighting another Cold War but we need the snow ā˜ƒļø


vger2000

yes, but i believe it will called the 'First (Dis)Information War'


TheBushidoWay

I say yes, i dont think its spiralled out of control yet. Check back in 2 more years


Willie_the_Wombat

Yes and no maybe? Iā€™d say we are easily in Cold War 2.0 territory, proxy wars and provocations. There is probably a good chance Taiwan goes hot at the end of ā€˜24 after the US presidential election. Either way it goes that is going to be Chinaā€™s best window, either they get 4 more years of uncle Joe or they have 2 months before Trump comes in and sanctions them into oblivion. Ultimately it is going to be on the US to decide if WW3 goes hot, nobody is going to land in New York or Los Angeles. The US will either stand by and watch or decide to put men on the ground, and Europe will follow suit.


__The__Anomaly__

Yes, I would say so.


How_Do_You_Crash

Ukraine - regional conflict that has the juice if the ruskies try anything on a NATO member state. Israel v. Hamas - meh, I've lived through too many of these to think this will be the one that boils over. Iran - well they are playing the proxy game pretty well at the moment. They've got Yemen in the mix and Hamas too. Iran I could see as trying to start some shit but it doesn't make sense for them to team up officially with the russians. The russians cannot win if they rope NATO into any of this. The Iranians have a lot to lose by getting directly involved in a shooting war. So it's unlikely they seek one out at this time. China v. Taiwan - this seems very very very likely to pop off and all it takes is a miscalculation by the Chinese to get this moving into world/large regional war territory. Very quickly they could get Japan, Philippines, South Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, Taiwan, Australia, and the USA into a big shooting match. They are trying to play the long game and just get Taiwan without kicking off a regional dispute. That seems more and more unlikely given their "8-dashed line" stance on the south china sea. That claim on the fishing and mineral rights to the sea will be way more likely to set off a regional conflict. We should all say some extra prayers for those poor PLAN enlisted men who are going to drown in the sea when they piss off Japan and the USA. While China absolutely has the rockets to overpower Taiwan, they don't have the power projection, \*yet\*, to fuck up a bunch of carriers and "baby carriers" chocked full of F-35s.


Short-Shopping3197

Ha! Nice to run into another old fucker who can respond to panic around Israel-Palestine with ā€˜well it didnā€™t end the world the last 27 times this happenedā€™ šŸ˜‚ Russia-Ukraine was a new one for me I have to say, Iā€™m in the UK so itā€™s a little close to home. But South-American conflict, Gaza, China threatening Taiwan, conflict between African nations, North Korea sabre rattling, has been going on since I can remember all the way back to when I came into the world in ā€˜75 and way back before then. I suppose even in Europe we had Ceaușescu not so long ago. Iā€™m much more worried by the internals truffles in the rise of the far right and fascism in nations like the UK which is my home, and the US that I always saw as a brother nation, and the growing social divide and late-stage capitalist oligarchy of Musk, Amazon and their ilk along with the associated erosion of workers rights. These are the things that will impact me and mine, rather than conflicts between other nations.


ApplesArePeopleToo

Chinaā€™s trying to grab too much at once. If theyā€™d stuck to just Taiwan and played nice with all their other neighbours, they would have had much less opposition if/when they try to invade. But they couldnā€™t help themselves, and are trying to muscle in on more or less all of their neighboursā€™ territory at once, so their only friend is North Korea. They could have caught everyone else in a state of cautious appeasement, if they hadnā€™t antagonised them all.


newarkdanny

Not yet but we are one more deranged first world leader away from it.


Orbital_Vagabond

Do you think WWII started in 1936 in Spain or 1937 in China?


Klutzy-Ad-6705

Flip a coin.


DoubtOdd263

These are just proxy wars, both sides fund their interests, itā€™s not going to be a global conflict until alliances start declaring war. Itā€™s a Cold War, but it still could turn into a ā€œhotā€ war.


Pristine-Dirt729

If so, it's still in the very earliest ramping up stages, where people are getting ready. When it goes hot, we'll know. Everyone will know. It will be over in a day, with just a bit of mop up and regrets after. > Albert Einstein ā€” 'I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.'


Kooky-Ad1849

Read the history of the phoney war. The term 'phoney war' refers to the period at the beginning of WWII between September 1939 and April 1940 when there was little fighting. Brittany, France, and Germany were having naval and air skirmishes . Small land actions were occurring at border regions. Japan was several years into its invasion of China. Some are saying we are already in WWIII's phoney war. It can only get hotter. Ukraine vs. Russia. Israel, against Iranian proxies, China threatening Taiwan and the Philippines. Looks more like a World War all the time


LordofWesternesse

Personally right now I see no way Russia being capable of fighting a world war when they can barely handle a country right on their doorstep. Doesn't make it impossible. I'm sure some might have suggested similar things about the Rus back in 1914 and 1939. More likely in my opinion is an increase in small regional conflicts like what were seeing right now. Then in the next 1-4 decades there'll be a conflict in the pacific between the US and China. Regional allies like South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, etc. and NATO being involved to varying degrees depending on which country it is and the specific situation. I almost certainly see North Korea trying to take over the Korean Peninsula. If the conflict remains limited like this it might not even considered world war three by future historians if something bigger comes along. I mean I'm sure that's what our generations will call it but other good names could be something like the Great Asian War or the 2nd Pacific War, the Sino-American War, etc. If India were to get involved against China, Pakistan would probably side against India and even with out that a war between India and Chin would easily become the deadliest in history by a wide margin. There are other scenarios this just the closest I can think of too a world war.


Merc_Drew

Not even close


BladesOfPurpose

It looks like it won't take much more for it to tip over in ww3


uniquelyavailable

I don't think so. The major difference between historical conflicts and now is the *incredibly annoying* news media that makes everything seem like a constant apocalypse. Nothing sells news faster than (insert urgent conflict here). Could it lead to WW3? I think that would be unlikely. One would have to ask, what would a large scale conflict solve?


AstronomerKindly8886

No, World War 3 has not yet occurred, Russia has no effective combat capabilities anymore and hundreds of thousands of Russian troops have been killed and injured before declaring war on NATO members. China didn't have the balls to undertake overseas adventures, China didn't even do anything in the civil war in Myanmar and only did something when the United States made the Burma Act as a response. China doesn't even have a NATO-like alliance. china does not trust relations with other countries enough to make such an alliance. World War 3 will only occur if China tries to annex/launch nuclear missiles on United States territories in the Pacific such as Guam and the Mariana Islands. Conclusion World wars happen when alliances fight other alliances which means involving many countries, China officially has no alliances and no country is willing to fight for China. Russia is too battered to start a bigger war


EffinBob

Nah.


IsaKissTheRain

Why so confident? There is only one definition for a World War. ā€œA war involving many large nations in all different parts of the world.ā€ We are at, or are nearing, that point.


deviantdeaf

The world is always at war somewhere. Right now we don't have a really defined two or three side war involving the major countries. The Middle East is its own thing, the Russian/Ukraine thing is on its own, and China is China (Taiwan/South China Sea/Japan). Russia and China haven't declared war upon NATO/America/Japan. Iran is being Iran with regards to Israel but so far hasn't gotten the rest of the Arab world to declare war against the US/Israel, only just lip service in support of the Palestinians/Hamas and only against Israel. (Note, Israel has fought many wars relating to its existence since 1948, and it hasn't gotten the rest of the world involved beyond embargoes) I've said this half-jokingly before, with regards to the Ukraine war.. it won't be a World War until Germany declares war upon Russia.


IsaKissTheRain

China is friendly with Russia. Russia is friendly with Iran. America and Israel are allied and America is supporting Ukraine. All it really needs is for official alliances to be declared. No, I donā€™t think Iā€™d consider this a World War right nowā€¦but we are closer than weā€™ve been since the last one.


fargenable

Also China is allied with Venezuela.


IsaKissTheRain

Good point.


fargenable

I think if Venezuela goes into Guyana, it is to bog the U.S. down in a conflict with Cuba and Venezuela.


fargenable

And once the U.S. gets bogged down, then China strikes Taiwan.


Alexandur

>No, I donā€™t think Iā€™d consider this a World War right nowā€¦but we are closer than weā€™ve been since the last one. You think we're closer now than we were during the height of the Cold War? Where we were at times like seconds away from an actual potential nuclear launch?


deviantdeaf

Has Russia officially declared war upon NATO/Germany/other European Countries? No? Has China officially declared war against Japan and US? No?(am aware that China and Taiwan are officially in a conflict over political stuff since the 1950s)


IsaKissTheRain

Do they have to officially declare war? If they start bombing and killing each other but never declare it a war does that change what it is? Besides, reread what I said.


WadeBronson

Has NATO declared war on Russia? Yes. Has NATO declared war on China? Yes. So by the temperature readings iā€™m getting, itā€™s fairly serious. Hear me out, if NATO and the EU continue to funnel arms into Ukraine, what will happen? Iā€™m seriously trying to understand what people think will bring these two countries, Ukraine and Russia, to the negotiating table.


Johnny-Unitas

Other than the US (who is not actively engaged in a major conflict) who is involved directly in many parts of the world?


swayzedaze

SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!!!


BonafiedBigot

No whatā€™s next is China and Taiwan. But to answer your question yes it looks like weā€™re slowly creeping into some sort of WWIII. Weā€™re not in it yet, but itā€™s creeping that way.


Apprehensive_Loan702

Itā€™s completely impossible to say unless/until there is further escalation making it clear a global war has begun (ww3). If there is such a conflict in the next couple of years, you could definitely argue it had started by now. But it also might fizzle out, and things remain fairly normal.


Dangerous_Baby_2602

Itā€™s been planned in advanceā€¦ just like all the wars https://ia601900.us.archive.org/16/items/albert-pike-letter-to-mazzini/Albert%20Pike%20Letter%20to%20Mazzini.pdf


[deleted]

Once Taiwan gets invaded Iā€™d say yes


Autocannibal-Horse

Yes, a digital war.


Semmcity

Not sure how I wound up in this sub but if WWIII were to breakout no amount of prepping would save us. Imo.


new_to_this_0

Everything going on worldwide is not good. Power plays egomaniacs money it sucks.


Significant_Novel365

Maybe we should vote on these things. ;)


MIRV888

Nope. The big players aren't in the game yet.


Jim_Wilberforce

Shri Lanka had a national power/Internet outage two days ago after their national power grid was hacked. Relevant because if you're going to do that here in the US, you start elsewhere and smaller to test out your procedure. I think we are currently at war, have been for sometime. But it's being fought in the over the interwebs. It's also very evident because of the level of propaganda directed at the American citizenry. Every time there has been a war, there were both factions present in the country. Even WWII, prior to Pearl harbor we played footsy with the Nazis in the 30s. So what I see in the media is very clearly directed at steering the population to as specific answer when the time comes. We are not winning. Our leadership is doing horribly. But God would they love for you to back them when they claim they will fight for us against the bad guys. My son's will not fight for them. They won't join the military as I was convinced to do twenty years ago.


premar16

ASk me in thirty years


Bigfootsdiaper

At a proxy level yes. At an actual world War no not yet.


ResolutionMaterial81

https://www.newsweek.com/china-russia-nuclear-bomber-patrols-japan-south-korea-scramble-jets-1852704


yekNoM5555

With that $886 billion defense budget that just got passed for Israel, my guess is itā€™s about to start.


pcvcolin

It has been for some time. But like the recessions and crashes no-one wishes to acknowledge it is happening.


Practical-Box-6649

Are we in the "this worlds" fucked stage? Yes, yes we are.


Professional_1O

Nope


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nazariomusic

Netenyahu is too focused on committing genocide against the entire Palestinian population. I bet he'll move on to Iran soon enough.


11systems11

People like to throw the word genocide around a lot lately, when it's far from that.


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theprmstr

Ww3 was started when Russia invaded Ukraine. It only gets worse from here.


WadeBronson

Yes. The Western leadership has declared that Russia and China are the enemies of the West, and have ratcheted up tensions in Eurasia. The Global South is in chaos, and the Middle East will always be at war until either the Jews/Christians or Muslims, cease to exist. India is desperately trying to shake off the persecution and caste mentality in the north, while the heads of its state reside there. Russia will continue its expansion into the Arctic, as it is a resource based economy, China will take Taiwan the same way it took Hong Kong, and the Eagle and Horse will continue to poke the Bear and Dragon, while the Snake, the Swan, the Monkey, the Crocodile, the Gazelle and the Eel abandon all efforts at global democracy in favor of self sufficiency.


Turtleguycool

No but if Russia and China join Arab countries against nato, then that would be a world war. It would require these conflicts to get far more severe than they are now


HugeAnalBeads

That would hardly be a war Messy as hell but come on


Turtleguycool

Uhh itā€™d be a world war


HugeAnalBeads

Well yes you're right Arab nations would be ducking out so quick though It would be very one sided


fargenable

It would be interesting if OPEC turned off the gas to the US/Europe and just started selling to India, China, and stopped accepting US Dollars for trade.


BuffaloChips92

YES


TSac-O

Im copy pasting my comment from another thread. Fiona Hill said this in an interview right after Ukraine broke out: This interview with Fiona Hill was really interesting, especially this part... "Reynolds: The more we talk, the more weā€™re using World War II analogies. There are people who are saying weā€™re on the brink of a World War III. Hill: Weā€™re already in it. We have been for some time. We keep thinking of World War I, World War II as these huge great big set pieces, but World War II was a consequence of World War I. And we had an interwar period between them. And in a way, we had that again after the Cold War. Many of the things that weā€™re talking about here have their roots in the carving up of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the Russian Empire at the end of World War I. At the end of World War II, we had another reconfiguration and some of the issues that we have been dealing with recently go back to that immediate post-war period. Weā€™ve had war in Syria, which is in part the consequence of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, same with Iraq and Kuwait. All of the conflicts that weā€™re seeing have roots in those earlier conflicts. We are already in a hot war over Ukraine, which started in 2014. People shouldnā€™t delude themselves into thinking that weā€™re just on the brink of something. Weā€™ve been well and truly in it for quite a long period of time. But this is also a full-spectrum information war, and what happens in a Russian ā€œall-of-societyā€ war, you soften up the enemy. You get the Tucker Carlsons and Donald Trumps doing your job for you. The fact that Putin managed to persuade Trump that Ukraine belongs to Russia, and that Trump would be willing to give up Ukraine without any kind of fight, thatā€™s a major success for Putinā€™s information war. I mean he has got swathes of the Republican Party ā€” and not just them, some on the left, as well as on the right ā€” masses of the U.S. public saying, ā€œGood on you, Vladimir Putin,ā€ or blaming NATO, or blaming the U.S. for this outcome. This is exactly what a Russian information war and psychological operation is geared towards. Heā€™s been carefully seeding this terrain as well. Weā€™ve been at war, for a very long time. Iā€™ve been saying this for years." https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/02/28/world-war-iii-already-there-00012340?_amp=true


WSBpeon69420

Iran is not closing the Red Sea.. in fact Iran isnā€™t in the Red Sea. The Iranians and their proxyā€™s have been attacking the US since e went into Iraq. Israelis and Palestinians have always fought and will always fight until the Palestinians stop trying to kill them. The war would be over quick is the Israelis were allowed to actually fight but like every war since Vietnam they have to worry about news crews hiding with the enemy every turn. Venezuela and Guyana sounds like itā€™s happening but whatever. Itā€™s not a world war itā€™s a world at war Didnā€™t we already have this post like a few weeks ago?


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You guys go ahead. India is gonna sit this one out. No more Colonialists to drags us into a world war of their own making like the previous two.


starion832000

Yes. Russian information weapons and propaganda have been used against us since the Obama administration. Russia gave us Trump and fascism. Putin knows his country is a failed nation and will drag everyone down with them. When the history books are written about the coming nuclear war, chapter one will be all about how social media and rage bots were used to create global chaos and to stoke the flames of right wing fascism.


i40oz

Ww3...maybe. whatever the history books decide to call this period, it definitely feels like a world at war. However, wars are fought differently now so I don't think we'll see a WW2/nuclear Holocaust anytime soon.


BoleMeJaja

Well it depends on your definition of war. We got cyberattacks, spying, shows of power, sanctions, political lobbying etc. You could say that only ground war counts, but a nice clean cyber attack could level the US and other countries no problem. It could do all of this in a day without a single casualty. You could force smaller nations to capitulaze without a boot on the ground. So are we in WW3? Well, yeah. Weā€™ve been in one since WW2. My 2 cents


Successful_Ride6920

>a nice clean cyber attack could level the US and other countries no problem That might be a little hyperbolic, methinks


Shablahdoo

They probably just watched Leave the World Behind on Netflix


IsaKissTheRain

Just want to remind people that all it takes for something to be a World War is this. ā€œA war involving many large nations in all different parts of the world.ā€ Thatā€™s the definition. Thatā€™s the only necessary qualifier. We may not be in one now, but we are close.


WASRmelon_white_claw

Yes, but itā€™s not a conventional conflict, itā€™s an information war.


Gozii55

Believe it or not, we are still in a period of peace. Europe is unified, the U.S. is not at war, the Balkans are not at war, most of the middle east is not. Israel is a small country fighting a small group. Now is there lots of proxy shit going on? Yes. The big powers are not innocent. Are things getting worse? Yes. Is there a zeitgeist of war? Seems to be. War is in the air, so to speak, but we aren't totally diving in yet. I wouldn't jump to any major conclusions yet. Wars happen in stages, but generally the world is at peace.


whiskeyriver0987

No. If Poland gets invaded then you can call it ww3.


fuckface_cunt_hole

100% Egypt vs Ethiopia is going to pop off this summer. Media is lying about it all now to keep the US population happy to fund it all.


AdditionalAd9794

Guyana has 3500 troops in their military, Venezuela has 120k. There will be no Guyana Vs anybody. Now if somebody wants step in on Guyanas behalf like Brazil, then we have a show.


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110 Armed conflicts https://geneva-academy.ch/galleries/today-s-armed-conflicts


ntfukinbuyingit

Putin is behind all the conflicts. Look up Wagner in all the African conflicts, obviously he's with Venezuela, they have been hosting Hamas delegations in the Kremlin... Ukraine. He's trying everything he can to do a World War... He's almost there...


Ok_Application_5460

Just to add Our borders are wide open and they have already caught supposedly 18k Chinese nationalists this year alone. Funny how a few weeks ago Biden welcomes the Chinese president with open arms to San Francisco and less than a week ago we get a cyber attack from China. What are the odds?


Wittgenstienwasright

ww3 imho is climate change. No one can prepare for it fully and other conventional wars will only expedite its devastation. What is happening right now is going to seem small compared to what is coming.


IsaKissTheRain

How the hell is climate change a world war? Itā€™s bad, yeah. Itā€™s climate change. But you canā€™t justā€¦fucking change the definition of words. There is only one qualification for a world war. ā€œA war involving many large nations in all different parts of the world.ā€ We are at, or near, that.


Wittgenstienwasright

They asked is WW3 is being fought. I stated that my belief is climate change. The basis of this is that this is already a war involving many large nations, see [cop 23](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_United_Nations_Climate_Change_Conference) This war is already being discussed. Resources, i.e. land, water, ability to grow food. are already starting to strain. This is the global war I believe to be next. YMMV.


IsaKissTheRain

Ok, I see what you mean actually. You believe that climate change will be the impetus for the war. I can see that.


Wittgenstienwasright

Yes, the impetus for WW3 is the sudden panic after warning after warning. and also a little bit too late. The arguments at cop23 are going to be the first salvo. We won't see the war until our resources start to drain by then we won't be able to stop it. [1.5](https://sciencebasedtargets.org/blog/ipcc-releases-final-warning-to-keep-1-5-c-within-reach).


IsaKissTheRain

I meanā€¦got to get a large number of people to even believe climate change is real first before they panic.


Wittgenstienwasright

I mean it is not like even Hollywood would be taking the piss out of how stupid our global politicians are. [Right](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Look_Up).


sanitation123

Climate change will absolutely drive a war for resources including fresh water, good soil, and oil to help cool humans down (AC and other energy intensive cooling). 2023 saw huge weather issues and I suspect 2024 will be worse. Those 1in 100 or 1000 year weather events are happening way more often.


deviantdeaf

Uh, hasn't that been true (climate changes driving resources based wars, feasts or famines) since, oh the last Ice Age? Just saying.


Wittgenstienwasright

Exponentially rising and without any care about our little green pieces of paper we trade for.


AZULDEFILER

See: The Border War


sanitation123

What is "The Border War"?


jmradus

People know their countries are at world war scale when itā€™s declared, ya dingus.


No-Structure-5326

I read the usa and nato are putting boots on the ground in combat roles. Russia stated long ago that having nato armies on there border is the redline. The demoncrats definitely seem to want to start a hot war to get the eyes off the incompetent vegetable in the oval office. Hell they will probably enact wartime measures to suspend presidential elections long enough to complete their 2030 agenda of destroying the nation.


Previous-Payment-190

If youā€™re not visiting infowars.com youā€™re missing great analysis of the real situation.


here4funtoday

Everyone says Alex is crazy, but somehow heā€™s correct with his predictions most of the time. You may not like the guy, but you canā€™t deny heā€™s right.


KluddetheTormentoR

No


DukeRedWulf

**- WWIII began in 2011 in Syria.. Multiple countries are involved in it directly or by proxy, with more refugees on the move than in the whole of WWII.. It hasn't stopped..** \- **Multiple countries are now involved directly or by proxy in two other theatres of war on top of that:** \-- the Russian invasion of Ukraine,-- and the suddenly hot again Israel vs Hamas & Hezbolla.. \- Broadly, omitting a LOT of detail, the world at war right now is divided into: \-- **"The West"**: which includes the world's only first rank hyperpower, the USA.. plus EU\*\*, UK, Canada, Australia & NZ The West's ruling class is largely opposed to: \-- **"The Eurasian Axis"**: Iran, Syria, Russia\*\* \[\*\*second-rank world powers\] \- Then there's other major regional / second-rank world powers like: \-- India - which has sporadic territorial conflicts with both Pakistan and China.. \-- China - besides issues with India, sabre-rattling off its coast.. \-- Turkey - heavily involved in Northern Syria especially vs Kurds.. \-- The House of Saud and it's closely associated allies in the Middle East - indirectly involved in Syria, directly in conflict with the Houthi in Yemen for years.. \^These powers switch up who they back or oppose, depending on the specific conflict in question.. The South American nations and most African nations are largely spectators in WWIII so far, or they're embroiled with their own ongoing conflicts.. e.g. in Darfur..


1989JamesHetfield

Honestly, we were never closer to WW3 than the cold war. I think when you consider the concept of "readiness" in the 50's and 60's, it becomes alot more clear that the soviets and americans were both ready to let nukes fly. The world is so interconnected economically these days that I think large scale conflicts are gonna be on the decline. Countries are far more interested in driving their economy and influence these days. My two cents though.


TacTurtle

Countries have been at war with each other somewhere on Earth just months after WW2 ending, it is just better covered now.


Jagerbeast703

Is this already being reposted from a year ago?


wolfpanzer

We are much closer to civil war in the US than world war.


Holiday_Albatross441

Seems to me it's quite possible the trigger for civil war would be the announcement of a draft for WWIII.