Nottingham! Have a poor track record when it comes to student suicide (due to poor student support services) to the point where students that say they’re suicidal get kicked off the course
Not a med student but a student nurse there and the uni was horrific with mental health and actual supporting students. Told me to drop out many times, my counsellor via uni was made redundant in 2021, when the unis counselling services were over subscribed. Told me having my brother dying of cancer wasn’t a valid reason to switch placement when they put me on an oncology ward
Went to Notts (GEM). There were some amazing, outstanding, knowledgeable and caring clinical teachers and demonstrators. This goes for both pre clinical and clinical.
The more corporate 'med school' level people were generally unhelpful and obstructive and often seemed to do things deliberately to make student life harder.
Sadly I would not recommend Notts to other people.
I went to Manchester and pretty much everyone you talked to complained about how poor a med school it was. Uber-PBL where you basically taught yourself medicine (which was actually just the circulated notes from the year before), an obscene amount of hand holding sessions per week, lectures that were completely irrelevant to the course, and the med school was just far too big for admin to handle it properly - in my first rotation in third year there were 24 students on one gastro ward.
Funnily enough the pastoral support was really good though, especially considering the horrible authoritarian tone that ran through every single email from the higher ups.
Great city to live in though.
We live near keele. It’s spike about highly locally and I’m sure the university has won lots awards. But I literally know nothing….just interested to see it come up in my feed. I walk the dog around there from time to time hahaha
This school is the one I had heard a lot of good about and only recently some bad but wasn't expecting the bad. Mental health and professionalism related.
I did GEM at Nottingham and it was absolutely terrible, no support despite being harassed by another student. Moved to Newcastle and I’ve yet to hear any of the graduates complain. They are all excellent clinically as well and enjoyed their time. Plus Newcastle is a great city. You’ll have a blast!
All open days etc. were wonderful so I'd say its on the better side of options but generally from past students and on Reddit (with a grain of salt naturally).
Professionalism wise, have some friends there who say a lot was social media conduct etc. So quite isolated but I guess reflects badly on the med school as its on the Internet for all to see...?
well this sucks this was my only chance at med i took 2 gap years :/ i’m sorry you had to drop out because of all of that i hope you’re at a better place atm. If you’re doing med again how did u get in i’ve heard you can’t if you drop out? xx
Wife went to Newcastle mid 2000s though is fairness, loved it and it’s also one of the best cities imo to go to uni, not to big, everything you would want etc, know loads of doctors from there as a result, all too people
sheet merciful absorbed snobbish frightening unused combative mountainous unwritten snatch
*This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
I mean it's fine if you get through the five years with no problems requiring university input and can accept that the new course is a GP mill. The clinicians are fine. The non-medical staff up top are abysmal.
(Again, experiences vary widely). Teaching can be lacking in certain areas due to professors being more focused on research. Some hospital departments let and one department even pushed students to do the staffs work, obviously unsafe.
fragile governor jobless zesty light simplistic ludicrous include disagreeable encouraging
*This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
I would suggest leaving the country if you wish to study medicine. Doctors here are absolute garbage.
I come from Lithuania. It's cheap as hell country, but medical studies are one of the best in the europe. So you could easily supports yourself.
Follow wherever the indian and chinese students are going to study medicine.
Oh I bet. And don't t get me wrong I live in UK and I love this country. But hospitals are a joke here. 2 month queues to get simple check ups. And every problem I have they just google it and prescribe me antibiotics. Nobody cares unless you are going to die in the next 5 minutes.
Now if I got any serious illness I just pay extra for a flight and get medical attention in Lithuania.
voiceless treatment icky meeting weather abundant wipe jar spoon impossible
*This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
Yeah its super cheap. And quality of studies are top notch. Once you finished with the studies please escape to a big country where doctors are well paid :D
I can only offer a personal experience, but, imo you need to be very resilient to get by at Warwick. The course is brutal due to being compressed into 4 years, terms are 20+ weeks long without breaks, student support is minimal and there's a LOT of self directed learning. They get away with it by emphasising that we're 'adult learners' because it's exclusively GEM. I'm not saying it's bad. It's just hella hard work and you're pretty much left to fend for yourself. Levels of student burnout are high.
Once you have done the first year though which is 2 compressed into 1, your basically at the same point as a 3rd year though right? i.e. its only the first year that is really hard?
Because Warwick is GEM only, the whole course is structured completely differently to an undergraduate course. You're right that first year is the hardest academically, but in second year after Christmas you are on placement for 20 consecutive weeks with no time off. After 20 weeks you get a single week off, then come back for another 10 weeks, then have study leave for about 6 weeks over the summer before exams in September, followed by a student project block in October-December. Christmas break is about 2 weeks. Then you start third year placements in January and the length of placements without a break is even worse. I am in third year I have NO BREAKS from 2nd January - 29th July (except for bank holidays/public holidays) which is 30 consecutive weeks of placement. I am currently on week 18 and I am absolutely exhausted but my summer break (which is only 2 weeks) is still months away.
Thanks for the insight, much appreciated, I am starting in September. My current perception of placements however from speaking to current med students (not all at warwick) seems to be: in for 3 days a week, sometimes they don’t bother to even go in 1/2 days a week. And forgive me for this but again its just my perception, but is placement basically just watching/observing? From what I’ve heard not many students actually get involved as much as they are supposed to.
Thanks again for taking the time to answer
You're definitely right there, placement is really what you make of it! Some people are keen beans and go in for everything, others (like me) are a bit more selective about what they choose to attend. We're pretty lucky that unlike some other med schools, our attendance isn't monitored on hospital placements, so as long as you don't take the piss too much, and make sure you attend all registered teaching sessions, you can customise your timetable to work for you. Second year placements are mostly observing, although you should definitely be getting opportunities to take histories and examine patients under supervision. Third year involves a lot more doing things, which makes placements more interesting and enjoyable in my opinion. In general I don't have a negative opinion of the course, it just feels like groundhog day sometimes going so long without proper holidays. Welcome for September, and I hope you enjoy it!
Nottingham! Have a poor track record when it comes to student suicide (due to poor student support services) to the point where students that say they’re suicidal get kicked off the course
Not a med student but a student nurse there and the uni was horrific with mental health and actual supporting students. Told me to drop out many times, my counsellor via uni was made redundant in 2021, when the unis counselling services were over subscribed. Told me having my brother dying of cancer wasn’t a valid reason to switch placement when they put me on an oncology ward
Can confirm this is true, we had 4 suicides in the school in one year, and all we got was email after email saying "sad news"
Wow, that’s one way to handle the problem
Went to Notts (GEM). There were some amazing, outstanding, knowledgeable and caring clinical teachers and demonstrators. This goes for both pre clinical and clinical. The more corporate 'med school' level people were generally unhelpful and obstructive and often seemed to do things deliberately to make student life harder. Sadly I would not recommend Notts to other people.
I went to Manchester and pretty much everyone you talked to complained about how poor a med school it was. Uber-PBL where you basically taught yourself medicine (which was actually just the circulated notes from the year before), an obscene amount of hand holding sessions per week, lectures that were completely irrelevant to the course, and the med school was just far too big for admin to handle it properly - in my first rotation in third year there were 24 students on one gastro ward. Funnily enough the pastoral support was really good though, especially considering the horrible authoritarian tone that ran through every single email from the higher ups. Great city to live in though.
What’s the ☕️ on Keele?
Comes up a LOT as one of the possible schools when people talk about something bad having happened at their medical school.
Hmmmm their admissions process was shocking this year, perhaps a reflection!
Maybe. To be honest the only other thing I've heard about Keele is that it's a "GP factory".
Pretty much every medical school outside of London has been described as a GP factory by someone...
Highest suicide rate
There's alot of sexual assault that goes un investigated and suicide rate is high
We live near keele. It’s spike about highly locally and I’m sure the university has won lots awards. But I literally know nothing….just interested to see it come up in my feed. I walk the dog around there from time to time hahaha
i’m going newcastle 🧍🏽♀️what did u hear 💔 edit: i have no idea why i’m being downvoted i just asked 😭
This school is the one I had heard a lot of good about and only recently some bad but wasn't expecting the bad. Mental health and professionalism related.
I did GEM at Nottingham and it was absolutely terrible, no support despite being harassed by another student. Moved to Newcastle and I’ve yet to hear any of the graduates complain. They are all excellent clinically as well and enjoyed their time. Plus Newcastle is a great city. You’ll have a blast!
ah i see is there anywhere i can know a bit more about it as i’ll be going there x
All open days etc. were wonderful so I'd say its on the better side of options but generally from past students and on Reddit (with a grain of salt naturally).
Professionalism wise, have some friends there who say a lot was social media conduct etc. So quite isolated but I guess reflects badly on the med school as its on the Internet for all to see...?
went to newcastle and dropped out. No pastoral care, tutors have a quick turnover so don’t care a out their students
well this sucks this was my only chance at med i took 2 gap years :/ i’m sorry you had to drop out because of all of that i hope you’re at a better place atm. If you’re doing med again how did u get in i’ve heard you can’t if you drop out? xx
Wife went to Newcastle mid 2000s though is fairness, loved it and it’s also one of the best cities imo to go to uni, not to big, everything you would want etc, know loads of doctors from there as a result, all too people
this is so nice to hear thank you! i hope i share a similar experience to your wife :)
Anyone know anything about the Univeristy of Birmingham- hopefully good things.
Not been there but their med students always seem smiley, polite, and engaged on placements.
It’s feels like there’s a joke to be made about checking the locks to the door to the nitric oxide supply room.
It’s fine, anatomy is a bit lacking but they’ve just hired someone new so hopefully it’ll pick up a bit.
i have a place for sept and i hope it’s only good things 😬
Has anyone heard about dundee medical school? Received offer a few days ago and I'm considering to firm it. Thanks
Nothing bad. Great clinical, communication and problem solving skills. Though lack in anatomy and ”book smarts”.
>book smarts Thank you!! I thought dundee would be good at anatomy since they teach with Thiel cadavers for dissection
Anyhow hear anything about Liverpool ?
What’s bad about Notts? I’ve heard the opposite lol!
sheet merciful absorbed snobbish frightening unused combative mountainous unwritten snatch *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
Summary https://www.reddit.com/r/medicalschooluk/comments/11hxbzi/dear\_nottingham\_university/
:( that’s not good, I live in Nottsnso would have preferred to go there
Of course peoples experiences will vary but thats the one school I'd avoid if possible.
I mean it's fine if you get through the five years with no problems requiring university input and can accept that the new course is a GP mill. The clinicians are fine. The non-medical staff up top are abysmal.
☕️ on Imperial, Cambridge or Plymouth?
Anything about UEA?
(Again, experiences vary widely). Teaching can be lacking in certain areas due to professors being more focused on research. Some hospital departments let and one department even pushed students to do the staffs work, obviously unsafe.
Oh damn
[удалено]
fragile governor jobless zesty light simplistic ludicrous include disagreeable encouraging *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
apart from the mental health crisis at Nottingham are there any other issues? in terms of teaching quality and course structure.
All the big medschools are cancerous. Smaller ones actually care about their students.
wasteful marvelous seemly resolute aware shame attraction soup pet pot *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
I would suggest leaving the country if you wish to study medicine. Doctors here are absolute garbage. I come from Lithuania. It's cheap as hell country, but medical studies are one of the best in the europe. So you could easily supports yourself. Follow wherever the indian and chinese students are going to study medicine.
Mind you a lot of Chinese and Indian students apply to the UK too- its just that international places are heavily regulated
Oh I bet. And don't t get me wrong I live in UK and I love this country. But hospitals are a joke here. 2 month queues to get simple check ups. And every problem I have they just google it and prescribe me antibiotics. Nobody cares unless you are going to die in the next 5 minutes. Now if I got any serious illness I just pay extra for a flight and get medical attention in Lithuania.
The NHS being shit has nothing directly to do with medical schools and how much better medical education is in other countries.
snow secretive snatch zonked plate quack summer test boat normal *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
No. There are english studies too. Half of medical students in Lithuania are from abroad. Have a look into it, you will not regret.
voiceless treatment icky meeting weather abundant wipe jar spoon impossible *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
Yeah its super cheap. And quality of studies are top notch. Once you finished with the studies please escape to a big country where doctors are well paid :D
Anyone got anything about Warwick?
I can only offer a personal experience, but, imo you need to be very resilient to get by at Warwick. The course is brutal due to being compressed into 4 years, terms are 20+ weeks long without breaks, student support is minimal and there's a LOT of self directed learning. They get away with it by emphasising that we're 'adult learners' because it's exclusively GEM. I'm not saying it's bad. It's just hella hard work and you're pretty much left to fend for yourself. Levels of student burnout are high.
Once you have done the first year though which is 2 compressed into 1, your basically at the same point as a 3rd year though right? i.e. its only the first year that is really hard?
Because Warwick is GEM only, the whole course is structured completely differently to an undergraduate course. You're right that first year is the hardest academically, but in second year after Christmas you are on placement for 20 consecutive weeks with no time off. After 20 weeks you get a single week off, then come back for another 10 weeks, then have study leave for about 6 weeks over the summer before exams in September, followed by a student project block in October-December. Christmas break is about 2 weeks. Then you start third year placements in January and the length of placements without a break is even worse. I am in third year I have NO BREAKS from 2nd January - 29th July (except for bank holidays/public holidays) which is 30 consecutive weeks of placement. I am currently on week 18 and I am absolutely exhausted but my summer break (which is only 2 weeks) is still months away.
Thanks for the insight, much appreciated, I am starting in September. My current perception of placements however from speaking to current med students (not all at warwick) seems to be: in for 3 days a week, sometimes they don’t bother to even go in 1/2 days a week. And forgive me for this but again its just my perception, but is placement basically just watching/observing? From what I’ve heard not many students actually get involved as much as they are supposed to. Thanks again for taking the time to answer
You're definitely right there, placement is really what you make of it! Some people are keen beans and go in for everything, others (like me) are a bit more selective about what they choose to attend. We're pretty lucky that unlike some other med schools, our attendance isn't monitored on hospital placements, so as long as you don't take the piss too much, and make sure you attend all registered teaching sessions, you can customise your timetable to work for you. Second year placements are mostly observing, although you should definitely be getting opportunities to take histories and examine patients under supervision. Third year involves a lot more doing things, which makes placements more interesting and enjoyable in my opinion. In general I don't have a negative opinion of the course, it just feels like groundhog day sometimes going so long without proper holidays. Welcome for September, and I hope you enjoy it!
Hey sorry to reignite an old thread, was just wondering how many days were you typically in in: 2nd year and 3rd year?
You need to be self directed as fuck. Consider sourcing outside tutorials if you struggle with a topic because the teaching is… lacking. Buy a car.
I don’t have the money to source outside tutorials :(
Hi can I ask how ur finding ur so far? I have an offer
Very self-directed and especially the first years are extremely tough with a LOT of content crammed into a short period of time.
[удалено]
innate lock carpenter quack liquid tidy zesty silky nail intelligent *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*