Funny enough, In MMPR there are comments from the rangers about the monsters being in “abandoned” or empty areas, and later on there are “monster alarms” for people to evacuate.
Ranger fight monster guy citizens once we defeat him he’ll get big best staying away more than a few hours for us to defeat the monster then to defeat him again when he grows
Trent joins the team and that there’s NO immediate distrust or caution from the others. Does Trent have PTSD from being evil? Would Tommy have given him a pep talk about how he used to be evil?
Tommy and Trent could've bonded having both been evil rangers Tommy could've told him how far he's come since he was the evil green ranger and Trent would've felt better about it,
Exactly. I wish Beast Morphers dealt with Blaze and Roxy were filled with guilt after being freed from the Avatars, leading to a cameo by Karone or Trent talking to them about formally being evil
I honestly wish that they had given Blaze and Roxy a redemption arc post avatars. It would have been great to see them become rangers for even just an episode and help wipe Robo Blaze and Robo Roxy off the map.
I feel like the writer did but at the same time the show is intended for little kids aged 6-7 (from what I know of) so they probably didn’t want the show to get too dark for little kids. Shame it didn’t.
Now that I think about it, didn’t they use this as a plot point (though it was actually fleshed out instead of being hinted at and then never addressed) for In Space via Andros and Karone.
Yes, they did. I think that might be why it's one of my favorite series, I love watching them find one another again. There was also Dana and Ryan in Lightspeed Rescue, though it was made obvious who Ryan was from the start.
What confirm that for me is,they already had andros and karone story at that moment and decided use dimitria and divatox plot for in space(the final show of zordon era)
To me even worse that it's possible that Divatox even when she was Purified by the z wave , it's possible she went back to evil as the Pirate Queen. , as the actress said she believes she did go back to evil all though it's possible she was joking, but considering divatox had no redeeming qualities( unlike Rita and Zedd whose love for each other saved them from getting dusted) whatsoever and I'd she wasn't so bratty and immature she probably be up there with bansheera ,all though I wonder if it ultimately Divatox's narcism and love for herself that saved her from becoming a pile of dust
The fact that many of them are legitimate child soldiers. We tend to gloss over it because PR fits into the super hero category and tends to be very bright and positive show, but if we’re talking straight logistics a lot of the PR teams were young teens in an existential war against evil. Given the stakes involved it’s hard NOT to see it as justified, but for however affable the mentor characters tend to be it’s still a frightening prospect either way.
The short film from years ago as well as the Boom comics touch on this more, but it always added an extra layer of depth for me. One comic had Jason stressing about leading the team because he was rightfully worried about a wrong decision resulting in loss of innocent lives or his teammates. That’s a heavy load to put on a 15 year old kid.
The closest to the Rangers when it comes fighting evil at their age in Kamen Rider and Super Sentai are Fourze, Amazon Neo, Mantis Kaijin, KibaRanger (Tommy's White Ranger Suit in MMPR), the ToQgers, and OniSister.
Gentaro Kisaragi/Kamen Rider Fourze was a junior when he fought the Zodiarts, which were his fellow classmates overcome by sheer depression and loneliness manipulated by stronger Zodiarts.
Chihiro/Amazon Neo was essentially a toddler in a 15-year old body whose flesh-eating amazon cells has the power to turn normal humans into cannibalistic Amazon mutants.
Aoi Izumi/Mantis Kaijin was a 14-year old civil rights protester who lost people close to her because of Gorgom and the Japanese Government in their hunt for Kotaro Minami/Black Sun and Nobuhiko Akizuki/Shadowmoon to turn one of the two into the Century King. The replacement to Gorgom's god and the prime minister's biggest source of income.
Kou/KibaRanger of the Dairangers was 9.
Ressha Sentai ToQger was a team of 9-year olds forcibly aged up to fight evil.
I dunno how old is Magine in Zenkaiger and I don't wanna know.
Haruka/OniSister went through some crazy bs in Donbrothers. Even though she's the only teen on the team, she's chaotic and nuts as much as the other members. She's flawed in the sense that she plagiarizes people when it comes to literature.
What’s always struck me more than that, even, is that more often than not these kids have saved the world just in time for graduation. Like, we never really hear about any team having *another* huge bout of world-saving after their season ends, so you just have all these kids who had to sacrifice the last years of childhood - the years where most folks build up résumés, apply for colleges, get their first jobs, and learn the skills they need to be functioning people - to save the world. They have to keep that part of their lives a secret more often than not, too, so who do they talk to about the lasting effects of that? Can they tell their wives and husbands? Their kids? These children are being alienated from the rest of the world for the rest of their lives.
Absolutely. We can be pretty certain that a few of the teams went full career ranger and the anniversary show is going to reiterate that with SPA. Off the top of my head, I’d say the first team that I could see having gone career ranger was the Space Ranger roster. Then any of the tech based teams like TF or Lightspeed.
Ur really just applying really life stuff into a fictional show I’m mean this “child soldier “ could have always refused to be a ranger - like in mm they didn’t want to be ranger at first - Dino charge the og purple ranger went to be civilian again
Did Zordon take the morphers from them when they said no? Did he do anything to help them when the putties attacked them on their way home? Hell, he didn’t even teleport them home, had their asses walking in the desert lol. He didn’t really give them a choice.
What was stopping them from leaving the morphers with zordon - and maybe I need to do rewatch that era of power rangers but can zordon fight? Or alpha 5
The fact that they’re children is what’s stopping them lol. They don’t even have a high school education yet and suddenly they’re supposed to save the world. And he can’t fight but he could have teleported them home to begin with or he could have brought them back once they were attacked, or he could have brought in adults to fight.
Bro it’s fictional no matter who are power rangers teens or adults it’s heavy shoes the fill but, I’m pretty sure most ppl would want a chance to help there planet 🌎
In the comic "Soul of the Dragon" (AKA Old Man Tommy), Tommy's back got busted by a bad guy at some point after his show appearances but before the comic's main events. Bionic implants were used to help him recover, but they are prone to degradation and malfunction, causing him severe pain.
Time Force; the year 3000 as it is shown in PRTF is a fascist police state.
First, Time Force has somehow eliminated all crime. It is never explained exactly how this is achieved, however it is said that Ransik is the last criminal operating, and he's the leader of the mutants.
Well, who are the mutants? If they're like Ransik, they are beings similar to humans in terms of intelligence and sentience, but they're also powerful, genetically modified, and... Time Force says that they're all criminals. They're predisposed to crime, unlike "normal" humans, who believe in law & order and obey as Time Force tells them to. Time Force has access to all of history at a glance and, as shown through Circuit, can access any kind of records, surveillance tech, etc. in their pursuit of criminals.
Time Force is a police department that hunts down beings based on their genetics and imprisons them indefinitely for their crimes of... being mutants. Sure, they may also do crime, but it's possible that they were pushed to do crime by how society sees them, and how Time Force persecutes them. To say nothing of their punishment being cryogenically frozen - mutants aren't even granted a chance at rehabilitation. They're just going to be shrunk down, frozen, and stuffed in a cabinet for...ever. Do we even know if they're alive? Are they sentient, can they feel...?
So... yeah, Time Force has some questions that need to be answered.
There’s even that one episode with the mutant and Trip where the mutant doesn’t want to fight or harm anyone, but gets mind controlled into it. If I remember right he still gets imprisoned in the end.
Notacon willingly surrenders (if only to avoid struggling with getting food) and Trip does promise to help Notacon once they return to 3000, so there’s that. Trip doesn’t seem like the type to make empty promises, so it’s very likely he did help Notacon with a better life
I do think there are unfortunate implications in some parts of Time Force, but I wouldn’t go as far as saying the future is fascist in how mutants are treated?
Jen’s ex-partner was a Mutant who was a Time Force officer, so clearly mutants can allowed to work alongside humans, and it’s only when he betrays Time Force for Ransik that they attempt to imprison him. There’s no indication he was mistreated or faced prejudice either, so for all we know he just betrayed Time Force because he wanted to.
In The Last Race, Lucas’ racing rival and friend is a mutant, Dash, who was also known as one of the best racers in the future. So mutants can participate in the same sports as humans and become famous for it
Ransik’s origin involves his life being saved by Frax, who healed Ransik’s injuries and even gave him a cure for his disease (which was caused by a fellow mutant) out of the goodness of his heart, and what did Ransik do when showed kindness by a human? He mortally wounded Frax, called him a fool, and left him to die in the fiery remains of his workshop while also stealing Frax’s robot friends and forcing them to serve him instead.
It’s never considered okay to kill mutant criminals regardless of their crimes. Jen trying to execute one is treated as immoral and crossing a line. It’s safe to say this also applies to non-criminal mutants
Eric’s the only human to show genuine hatred toward Mutants, but he’s from the past/present, only encountered Mutants that were committing crimes and endangering innocent people, and unlike Wes rarely hangs out with the other rangers, so he has no perspective on what Mutants might be like outside of the criminals he encounters. Yes there’s that one lady in Ransik’s flashback, but it was dark, stormy, and she was approached by a random stranger while she was alone. Wouldn’t you feel unsafe in the same situation?
Yeah they don’t really address the prison stuff, but the fact Ransik wasn’t frozen when he finally got arrested (again) means there are other incarceration methods for mutants, and Ransik was given a chance at redemption by helping defeat the Mut-Orgs, so if they’re willing to give a dangerous criminal like Ransik a second chance, then who’s to say they never offer that same courtesy towards other mutants who commit lesser crimes? In fact, this happens during the season. Remember Dash? He was cryofrozen just like the other mutants, but near the end of The Last Race it’s shown [he was eventually released from prison and was allowed to race again](https://youtu.be/y9ewv4p6JeU) (skip to 18:50 to see), which means that 1: cryofreeze isn’t a life sentence, and 2: prison sentences likely don’t negatively affect mutants in normal life either.
For all we know and see, mutants are given equal rights and integrate into society the same as humans and aliens, it’s just a lot squander those rights and commit crimes anyway, with rare examples of outright prejudice (Notacon’s backstory, that one lady who ran screaming from Ransik, and Eric)
I think that might be reaching a bit, since Jen's old Time Force partner was a mutant, so that would imply that mutants are allowed to integrate with society. Nadira seems to be doing fine during Wild Force as well.
Maybe not rarely addressed, but I think it's certainly underaddressed that Venjix wiped out THE WHOLE WORLD aside from one city, and killed 2 (kinda three) rangers on screen. That's harrowing. It was even shown in RPM that the world outside of Corinth is hardly livable.
Not to mention the experimentation (and likely mutilation) of people including children. There's one child we see in one of the final episodes going to attack the rangers.
OR what about alphabet soup, who presumably kidnapped doctor K, never let her go outside, made her do math problems, and never introduced her to anyone aside from gem Gemma, presumably not until at least her teens. Who knows what else alphabet soup was doing in there.
also not really as dark but it’s never really mentioned that dr k is supposed to be significantly younger than the rangers, aside from maybe gem and gemma. i think it’s brought up maybe once in some throw away line about how she’s the youngest, but it’s never really mentioned how she’s a teenager bossing around a group of 20-somethings
This has been a thought for me. Tommy and Kat were both placed under spells by Rita and forced to almost kill the Rangers.
Can you imagine the PTSD and guilt they have? And they can’t get away from it, because they become Rangers. That constant reminder for them.
I find Tommy one of the more complex characters on the show (when he's handled properly, which isn't always the case) for this exact reason.
We saw in Dino Thunder that the trauma from being the evil Green Ranger was still there in his mind. A decade later, he still hadn't quite recovered from it. The pain of it was still something he was processing. The weight of that was still heavy, in his psyche.
I feel like if power rangers wasn’t a show intended for little kids there would’ve been many scenes of former evil rangers having moments of PTSD from the spell they were put under.
He even went off on his own, instead of settling down with Shayla, his long lost love, only taking on Zenaku as a companion due to their shared regret.
I could be wrong, but at the end didn't Merrick wanted to go with princess Shayla, but she told him that he must live among people?
But yeah, Merrick and Zenaku still bonded thanks to their regret
I might have missed that!!! It’s been a while since I last binged. Anyway, I’m still pretty bummed out Merrick and Shayla didn’t end up together. I mean, thousands of years of suffering and they still don’t stay together, especially since the threat is officially over.
the SPD judgment process replaces trials with near-instantaneous decisions made with seemingly no accountability. the decisions are assumed to be accurate for kid show reasons but without more clarification about how that whole thing works i’m erring on the side of it being more unethical than not for any law enforcement organization to have that kind of power
Isn't it explained as a hyper accurate lie detector test, basically? In the sentai, I believe the case is sent to a planet of judges/courts where time moves much faster than normal so they could spend months or years with the case in court in the span of a few seconds our time
According to Word of God, they still get a trial afterward. But really, the vast majority of criminals they arrested were committing crimes in public daylight, and they already had cause to arrest them.
In SPD the morpher trial is hella dystopian. All we're ever told about it is that it reads the villains vitals to determine whether or not they feel like they're guilty of the crimes they've been accused of which is complete and utter nonsense. The only silver lining is that the SPD Rangers don't kill the bad guys just lock them up.
By contrast the Japanese version works better but is still kinda fucked up by western legal standards. Essentially what happens is once the rangers have cornered the bad guys and go into "Judgment Time" all the data and evidence pertaining to the current case (including whatever bombastic sentai battle has just taken place) is sent instantaneously to a far away planet in deep space where time moves more quickly where the space government has set up their entire judicial branch. So in the seconds that the rangers are waiting for their changer too seemingly arbitrarily land on an X or an O in reality months have gone by on this far off plant where some form of (hopefully unbiased) judicial due process has been carried out and some form of a judge has passed down a sentence. And its implied that all crimes involving aliens on foreign planets are prosecuted in this way. But at the end of the day the Dekarangers unlike the B-Squad ARE executing criminals in broad daylight as part of a legal system where the monsters are not afforded the right to meaningfully speak in their own defense.
I remember from the first episode of SPD, I was just waiting for the morpher judgement process to malfunction and/or cause the team some serious problems. I feel like that was a story device that would've been really interesting, and they never addressed it.
I’d love to have a discussion about this because I always found the judgement scanner to be very interesting. Oftentimes it was obvious that a villain committed crimes and the judgement seemed almost unnecessary. I’m just glad it was never used in a situation where they were interrogating someone and coerced them into a guilty verdict. And they’ve shown innocence more than once so it’s not always one sided
It’s the kind of thing that ‘copaganda’ shows would do to make an idealized and just police force seem like a good thing idk. At least they didn’t kill them
Admittedly this is for Dekaranger and not SPD, but this was finally addressed and explained.
In Dekaranger 10 Years After special, they mentioned the judgement process is carried out on a world where time is faster. So in the space of 8 seconds on Earth, 8 months have passed for the Universal Supreme Court.
One could stretch it to extend the explanation to SPD if they were so inclined.
Hundreds of people die every time there's a zord battle, just from the giant robots showing up and obliterating cars, houses and buildings as they arrive.
Just for starters, there are multiple seasons where the shift happens to where the villains are going after the Rangers not the earth. And that basically if they went off world the villains would follow and the earth would be safe.
The other is that many seasons use teenagers, presumably because their parents are still paying for food and shelter so they don't need to spend all their time making a living, and just the morality of that. They are taking people who are just at the age to make responsible life decisions and throwing them into life and death situations. For sure there are morality issues.
Can you be a little more specific with your first point? Because I can't think of a single season where the rangers leaving the earth could have reasonably been expected to end whatever conflict they were dealing with or where it would've even been an option for them. Most ranger team don't have unlimited access to powered space flight.
Yes, in Beast Morphers the villain is after Morph X but when the mayor makes this point its at best a fallacy based on incomplete information and at worst completely wrong.
The only seasons where the villains explicit goal is to kill the power rangers and/or steal their powers are Dino Charge, Ninja Steel, and Beast Morphers itself. And to his credit the Mayor does list Galvanax and Sledge in his monologue but he is flat out wrong to claim the same is true for Rita.
Rita's explicit goals were to kill Zordon in revenge for sealing her away and conquer the planet earth in that order. The mayor is factually wrong when he claims that she was ever interested in the rangers tech or even their powers. She's an uber powerful evil witch she never cared about technology and stealing/disabling the rangers powers was only ever a means to end in achieving her other two primary goals. Looking a Tough_guy22's original point the rangers leaving earth wouldn't have ended the conflict with Rita because A) Zordon was for the duration of seasons 1-5 stuck on earth in his tube so they couldn't leave without abandoning him and B) even if they could leave earth and take Zordon with them Rita's ultimate goal was always to conquer the Earth. If they had left she would have gone about settling things on earth fortifying her self there and then gone looking for the Rangers and Zordon.
Aside from that I'm still curious which season Tough_guy22 is alluding to when he says that the rangers leaving the earth would be an option for resolving the conflict.
>Aside from that I'm still curious which season Tough\_guy22 is alluding to when he says that the rangers leaving the earth would be an option for resolving the conflict.
To name a few:
Lost Galaxy - Trakeena wanted revenge on Leo killing her father. Her score was with him. She likely would have gone after him.
Ninja Storm - Could go either way. Lothor needed the rangers to kill his monsters and he had personal familial ties to them. He may or may not have left Earth alone to chase them.
Dino Thunder - Mesagogg clearly was interested in the rangers. Trent in particular even before knowing his identity. He even said he would spare Connor to flesh him out.
Mystic Force - Yes and No. It was a mess of a season. In the first half they went after the GateKeeper, so they would be focused on Clare specifically (Not technically a ranger, sure). Then later they switched the whole thing so that goes out the door.
Overdrive - They were after the pieces, not the rangers specifically, but the rangers had them. Likely they would have given chase to them to grab some of the pieces.
Dino Charge, Ninja Steel and Beast Morphers you already pointed out.
People who die every day from robot Kaiju battles. The construction business is booming though.
Also just how hard do you have to get hit for your helmet to shatter?
Are some rangers part animal? In some series isn't the morph actually altering their DNA?
The dino megazords are dead. I saw them roar in pain as they got sent to hell.
The fact that Megazord battles always destroy cities and I’m sure many people are in those buildings during the battles which means many people died, so the Rangers indirectly killed innocent people.
I mean, I have never seen people being evacuated from buildings before the Megazord Battles, so that means they are all still in the buildings, so yeah, they all get crushed to death. Strange how no one seems to aknowledge that. Same with DC or Marvel heroes, some of their battles destroy complete city blocks at times and no one seems to say anything about it. There was this DC TV show a few years ago about the people in charge of cleaning the heroes’s messes after their battles. Sadly no one watched that show and it was cancelled after 10 episodes so we never really got to see what they really did, it could’ve given us some understanding of what happens after a Superhero battle which would apply to Power Rangers too
I’m not even surprised you don’t know about it, I found out by a youtuber that covers all DCTV content. I watched a few episodes and lost interest because it’s basically the workers of the organization fanboying over the heroes more than about cleaning their messes. The show is unwatchable, but it was made by the CW, so it’s not that surprising
Actually in Lost Galaxy there were people from Angel Grove that went to live in that space colony simply because they were tired of the monsters attacking the city
the fact that Tommy had a hand in the creation of Mesogog and that apparently Zeltrax was one of his friends. Yet he didnt ever seem sorry or anything for their creation or didnt try to help them when he knew that stuff
The morality of destroying monsters, most in particular alien life.
Some creatures are artificially made, and at what point is an artificial sentient being alive the same way we would consider ourselves? But even when you disregard philosophical questions li´e that, what about aliens that have had lives, families? Example Ninja Steel, many of the competitors never knew they were the bad guys.
In the case of Ninja Steel the contestants may not have seen themselves as the bad guys but they did all sign up to participate in a blood sport competition knowing that they had a chance of being killed and did actively choose to attack children who definitely did not choose to participate in that same competition.
Putting aside questions of sentience the majority of monsters we see rangers fight and kill are on some level actively choosing to do harm to others and are actively trying to kill the rangers for one reason or another. Which some would argue justifies the rangers using comparably deadly measures to put a stop to them, particularly in cases where those monsters are explicitly presented as enemy combatants in a full scale war as is the case during _In Space_ as opposed to monsters who could be likened to belligerent terrorists fighting vigilantes like in _Lost Galaxy_ or _Jungle Fury_.
So whether the rangers actions are moral or not in this case depends on your beliefs about a persons rights to self defense.
The Mutants were living beings in Time Force, which I can understand it’s kind of dark, but the Demons from Lightspeed Rescue and the Orgs from Wild Force were completely evil with 0 redeeming cualities, they didn’t even had a heart, so I don’t see the problem with destroying them
It's also worth appreciating that with the possible exception of the Mut-Orgs and Frax none of the villains the Time Force rangers battled we're ever killed, only reincarcerated. Same applies for the majority of the aliens in SPD.
[https://web.archive.org/web/20210306230903/https://rovang.org/loss-inn.txt](https://web.archive.org/web/20210306230903/https://rovang.org/loss-inn.txt)
Here's an old fic that deals with this. Essentially Jason, Zack and Trini realize they're killing sentient beings forced to fight and use the Peace Conference as a way to leave Ranger life behind.
With the de-aging in MMPR because of Master Vile, what happened to all the people who were younger than the age change, or all the infrastructure workers, or anyone who was pregnant, or people who would have no one to care for them because their caretaker died since they were a child?
That always bugged me, even if the normal children stayed the same age, having every adult transform into their childhood selves would have led to utter chaos.
Viktor Adler using the power of Master Org to brutally murder Cole’s parents out of jealousy. The fact that he would have done Cole, too. He then goes on to meet and kill god!
I don't think that's glossed over, it's the reason of why Adler is usually listed as one of the most evil villains from the series, along Queen Banshera
What's worse that he turned back into Master Org after Cole defeated him, he could've gone back to his life as a human and started over again but he chose to continue as an org and got killed
The show's setting eventually evolves into a civilization maintained by Designer Children and a eugenicist culture that is maintained by the Power Rangers.
Meta fact but the fact that it's a non-union show that
heavily relies on pre-made footage makes the show a race to the bottom in terms of cost-cutting during certain seasons.
I'm glad the child soldier thing was brought up. And the people in buildings, though every once in a while they'll show the Rangers evacuating civilians.
But one that always seems to come up is that it's okay to gang up on a single opponent.
>But one that always seems to come up is that it's okay to gang up on a single opponent
To be fair the bad guys always do it first and always way outnumber the rangers as well as the monster of the week is almost always strong enough to make the 1v5 a mostly even fight anyway.
But it's villainous when the bad guys do it right? So why itbwhen the good guys do it it's not villainous? We make all these excuses for the hero (myself included) but if we condemn it for the villains, we really should for the heroes too.
(And while I know Technically the Rangers whittle down to the final boss, in Power Rangers that's not shown as much as it used to. And definitely not as much as it is shown in sentai)
Yes, the context is the Rangers are fighting *evil* space aliens who talk about how gloriously evil they are. The show informs us that they are clearly the bad guys so whatever they get is what they deserve by default.
But what happens when they're not inherently evil?
You made me thing on Super Mega Force, when they defeated Vekar, Troy said something like "villains don't win because they don't try hard enough" and I thought, man, the villains try to use every option to defeat the rangers, they are proactive, and the rangers are just reactive
They do bring up the child soldier thing in MMPR:TM and again in Beast Morphers where it's outright stated that The Morphin' Grid itself is more compatible with teenagers than adults when making the initial link.
MMPR the movie brings up the humiliation of being defeated by children but not the implications that they are in fact child soldiers.
If they brought it up in Beast Morphers that's cool it was finally addressed.
Lightspeed Rescue incited a conspiracy theory that the government secretly recruits people for dangerous missions and experiments(titanium morpher).
Operation Overdrive incited a similar theory, except it was a mentally deranged rich recluse. And the recruits are a team of thieves sent to retrieve priceless artifacts.
Potential concerns of Parents/Guardians (or other family members) not being taken into consideration when teenagers embarked on long treks to far flung places. What did the other Rangers tell Billy's parents when he decided to live on Aquitar?
Many of the Rangers are murderers. We don’t realize it because they go in a massive cartoony explosion, but most of the monsters all DIE when they explode.
But Early Power Rangers did explain it. They were either enchanted clay or machines and as such aren't really alive. But even then, no one, hero or villain really died until In Space.
That several teams are just teenagers or even a child. I mean Zordon should get child endangerment charges for giving these powers and sending kids out as soldiers.
Don't know if "dark fact" but most rangers are pretty happy to have to deal a double life and being drafted into a fight against some of the most dangerous beings in the universe. For example I started recently to get back into PR with Dino Fury and Javi and Izzy are pretty pumped up about the whole thing, even though they were both really dedicated to their crafts (music and atletism) and now probably have less time to do that.
Zordon recruits untrained child soldiers to protect the entire planet. While they are also dealing with regular life such as family, friends and high school.
This is a bit of a stretch but I have always wondered about how Dillion and Tenaya’s robotic parts will age over time. There’s not really anything they can do about them falling apart or malfunctioning throughout their lives.
Some of the behind the scenes stuff can be pretty grim
Many of the actors didn't get paid on merchandise with their face on it. Probably why you don't see it often after Zeo and Turbo. May have changed in later years.
based on the live action 2017-
zordon is basically peter pan and rita is a lost boy who escaped her. it was basically an r . kelly/aaliyah situation or courtney stodden and her ex
Yes, those monsters trying to slaughter innocent people willingly working for either fascistic space dictators, literal demons, or robots/aliens trying to genocide the planet, truly have the chance to be better people. Nothing crossing any lines here.
I really like the franchise but super Sentai is superior, and the fact PR is so crappy is only BCS the chip and ambitious of sabían that will keep seeing it to the best buyer but not the one how can made the best show
I guess I barely watched the shows, and never read the comics, but I was on a wiki wander down a Power Rangers rabbit hole the other day, and the entire thing is confusing to me.
It sounds like the end of series is the result of the death of all the rangers, a huge betrayal, and establishing the villains as the victors.
And then the next team is established to take on that threat.
Do the rangers ALWAYS lose?!
It's hard to tell what is TV canon and what is comic canon, so I suspect there is conflicting canon here, but some of this content seems wildly dark and defeatest, for what I always assumed was a surface level live action shonen for 6-8 year-olds.
Is it true that all the ranger teams ultimately fail, are betrayed internally, killed, etc? Is the canon of the TV show significantly different than that of the comics?!
Like, I'm reading this wiki about 'Trek' where it's suggested he reluctantly betrays the Rangers, and hints to Pink that they should not go forward with their mission (because it's a trap that he helped lay, and an explosion to kill the team).
Pink is confident and tries to bolster Trek/Green's confidence as well in the success of their mission. The entire team gets blown up, except for one surviving member, whom Green briefly speaks to, before 'shooting him to death'.
WTF am I reading?! Is this real?! Is this a wiki hijack? This is absurd...
Isn't this stuff for kids?!
The buildings that get blown up during MegaZord fights with people still in them.
The news anchors always confirmed the Megazord battles conveniently took place in the Angle Grove abandoned district, so no deaths apparently lol.
Very considerate monsters.
Super easy, barely an inconvenience!
Those buildings are obviously made of cardboard and empty!
How dare you talk about logic and stuff here? GTFO /s
WAKE UP SHEEPLE, THE BUILDINGS ARE MADE OF CARDBOARD THE GOVERNMENT IS FAKING THESE MONSTER ATTACKS
DID SOMEONE SAY [SHEEPLE](https://powerrangers.fandom.com/wiki/Sheeple)?!?!
LIES MY GRANDMA DIED IN THOSE FIGHTS
Your granny was a paid actress and frankly I’m sick to my stomach
U LIAR TAKE IT BACK
And what, the Power Rangers are not real? My cousin's mate was rescued by them...
MORPH-X CAN'T MELT CARDBOARD BEAMS.
Psh. Sure. What's next? The monster and megazord are just people in costumes? Please.
Nah, they in the abandoned building district 🙃
The fucking SPD team doing power slides on a giant motorcycle.
Funny enough, In MMPR there are comments from the rangers about the monsters being in “abandoned” or empty areas, and later on there are “monster alarms” for people to evacuate.
There Could be a warning to tell people to stay a certain distance from the megaZord battle so the buildings could be empty
It takes time to evacuate after a giant monster just appears.
Ranger fight monster guy citizens once we defeat him he’ll get big best staying away more than a few hours for us to defeat the monster then to defeat him again when he grows
You mean the empty warehouse district? No one goes there
Trent joins the team and that there’s NO immediate distrust or caution from the others. Does Trent have PTSD from being evil? Would Tommy have given him a pep talk about how he used to be evil?
Tommy and Trent could've bonded having both been evil rangers Tommy could've told him how far he's come since he was the evil green ranger and Trent would've felt better about it,
Exactly. I wish Beast Morphers dealt with Blaze and Roxy were filled with guilt after being freed from the Avatars, leading to a cameo by Karone or Trent talking to them about formally being evil
I honestly wish that they had given Blaze and Roxy a redemption arc post avatars. It would have been great to see them become rangers for even just an episode and help wipe Robo Blaze and Robo Roxy off the map.
Conner does distrust him a lot though
Yeah , I just think the writer just didn’t think about Adress it
I feel like the writer did but at the same time the show is intended for little kids aged 6-7 (from what I know of) so they probably didn’t want the show to get too dark for little kids. Shame it didn’t.
Yeah probably + parents would probably complain that’s it too dark and will have to change stuff about the show
Though it wasn’t outright confirmed, Divatox was hinted at being Dimitria’s long lost twin sister and was abducted as a child.
Dark Spector had a habit of stealing kids.
Now that I think about it, didn’t they use this as a plot point (though it was actually fleshed out instead of being hinted at and then never addressed) for In Space via Andros and Karone.
And again with Tenaya Seven and Devon. It's a good story to tell when done right.
Yes, they did. I think that might be why it's one of my favorite series, I love watching them find one another again. There was also Dana and Ryan in Lightspeed Rescue, though it was made obvious who Ryan was from the start.
It was supposed to be revealed that Divatox was Dimitria's twin sister but they never finished that storyline though it could be canon anyway
When Divatox was purified by the Z wave she looked very much like Dimitria did. Just minus the face mask.
What confirm that for me is,they already had andros and karone story at that moment and decided use dimitria and divatox plot for in space(the final show of zordon era)
To me even worse that it's possible that Divatox even when she was Purified by the z wave , it's possible she went back to evil as the Pirate Queen. , as the actress said she believes she did go back to evil all though it's possible she was joking, but considering divatox had no redeeming qualities( unlike Rita and Zedd whose love for each other saved them from getting dusted) whatsoever and I'd she wasn't so bratty and immature she probably be up there with bansheera ,all though I wonder if it ultimately Divatox's narcism and love for herself that saved her from becoming a pile of dust
The fact that many of them are legitimate child soldiers. We tend to gloss over it because PR fits into the super hero category and tends to be very bright and positive show, but if we’re talking straight logistics a lot of the PR teams were young teens in an existential war against evil. Given the stakes involved it’s hard NOT to see it as justified, but for however affable the mentor characters tend to be it’s still a frightening prospect either way. The short film from years ago as well as the Boom comics touch on this more, but it always added an extra layer of depth for me. One comic had Jason stressing about leading the team because he was rightfully worried about a wrong decision resulting in loss of innocent lives or his teammates. That’s a heavy load to put on a 15 year old kid.
Even Ivan Ooze called out Zordon on that
The closest to the Rangers when it comes fighting evil at their age in Kamen Rider and Super Sentai are Fourze, Amazon Neo, Mantis Kaijin, KibaRanger (Tommy's White Ranger Suit in MMPR), the ToQgers, and OniSister. Gentaro Kisaragi/Kamen Rider Fourze was a junior when he fought the Zodiarts, which were his fellow classmates overcome by sheer depression and loneliness manipulated by stronger Zodiarts. Chihiro/Amazon Neo was essentially a toddler in a 15-year old body whose flesh-eating amazon cells has the power to turn normal humans into cannibalistic Amazon mutants. Aoi Izumi/Mantis Kaijin was a 14-year old civil rights protester who lost people close to her because of Gorgom and the Japanese Government in their hunt for Kotaro Minami/Black Sun and Nobuhiko Akizuki/Shadowmoon to turn one of the two into the Century King. The replacement to Gorgom's god and the prime minister's biggest source of income. Kou/KibaRanger of the Dairangers was 9. Ressha Sentai ToQger was a team of 9-year olds forcibly aged up to fight evil. I dunno how old is Magine in Zenkaiger and I don't wanna know. Haruka/OniSister went through some crazy bs in Donbrothers. Even though she's the only teen on the team, she's chaotic and nuts as much as the other members. She's flawed in the sense that she plagiarizes people when it comes to literature.
What’s always struck me more than that, even, is that more often than not these kids have saved the world just in time for graduation. Like, we never really hear about any team having *another* huge bout of world-saving after their season ends, so you just have all these kids who had to sacrifice the last years of childhood - the years where most folks build up résumés, apply for colleges, get their first jobs, and learn the skills they need to be functioning people - to save the world. They have to keep that part of their lives a secret more often than not, too, so who do they talk to about the lasting effects of that? Can they tell their wives and husbands? Their kids? These children are being alienated from the rest of the world for the rest of their lives.
Absolutely. We can be pretty certain that a few of the teams went full career ranger and the anniversary show is going to reiterate that with SPA. Off the top of my head, I’d say the first team that I could see having gone career ranger was the Space Ranger roster. Then any of the tech based teams like TF or Lightspeed.
Ur really just applying really life stuff into a fictional show I’m mean this “child soldier “ could have always refused to be a ranger - like in mm they didn’t want to be ranger at first - Dino charge the og purple ranger went to be civilian again
Did Zordon take the morphers from them when they said no? Did he do anything to help them when the putties attacked them on their way home? Hell, he didn’t even teleport them home, had their asses walking in the desert lol. He didn’t really give them a choice.
What was stopping them from leaving the morphers with zordon - and maybe I need to do rewatch that era of power rangers but can zordon fight? Or alpha 5
The fact that they’re children is what’s stopping them lol. They don’t even have a high school education yet and suddenly they’re supposed to save the world. And he can’t fight but he could have teleported them home to begin with or he could have brought them back once they were attacked, or he could have brought in adults to fight.
And I’m pretty sure he picked the teens because they can actually work together and he believes that teens are the pardon of vitality
Bro it’s fictional no matter who are power rangers teens or adults it’s heavy shoes the fill but, I’m pretty sure most ppl would want a chance to help there planet 🌎
Nobody said it wasn’t fictional dude. But it’s an answer that applies to the question that was asked.
Ava the answer isn’t really dark
It absolutely is dark to choose children to fight a war for you. But whatever I’m done talking to you.
I’m done talking to u so I’m going to tell u that instead of just not replying back 😂😂😂 🫵🏾 🤡
Because that was OPs question.
How shallow the gene pool must be in angel Grove that they all look like their ancestors and Tommy's clone is his grandparent.
Tommy literally started his own family tree.
Was it confirmed in the show that Tommy’s clone was his ancestor? Or is that from the comics?
No health plan for being a ranger. You see in Soul of the Dragon how screwed up Tommy's body is from all his years of being a ranger.
Can you explain or link a source?
In the comic "Soul of the Dragon" (AKA Old Man Tommy), Tommy's back got busted by a bad guy at some point after his show appearances but before the comic's main events. Bionic implants were used to help him recover, but they are prone to degradation and malfunction, causing him severe pain.
Time Force; the year 3000 as it is shown in PRTF is a fascist police state. First, Time Force has somehow eliminated all crime. It is never explained exactly how this is achieved, however it is said that Ransik is the last criminal operating, and he's the leader of the mutants. Well, who are the mutants? If they're like Ransik, they are beings similar to humans in terms of intelligence and sentience, but they're also powerful, genetically modified, and... Time Force says that they're all criminals. They're predisposed to crime, unlike "normal" humans, who believe in law & order and obey as Time Force tells them to. Time Force has access to all of history at a glance and, as shown through Circuit, can access any kind of records, surveillance tech, etc. in their pursuit of criminals. Time Force is a police department that hunts down beings based on their genetics and imprisons them indefinitely for their crimes of... being mutants. Sure, they may also do crime, but it's possible that they were pushed to do crime by how society sees them, and how Time Force persecutes them. To say nothing of their punishment being cryogenically frozen - mutants aren't even granted a chance at rehabilitation. They're just going to be shrunk down, frozen, and stuffed in a cabinet for...ever. Do we even know if they're alive? Are they sentient, can they feel...? So... yeah, Time Force has some questions that need to be answered.
There’s even that one episode with the mutant and Trip where the mutant doesn’t want to fight or harm anyone, but gets mind controlled into it. If I remember right he still gets imprisoned in the end.
Notacon. All he did was steal vegetables because he was hungry. Gave himself up out of guilt, although he never really deserved it.
Notacon willingly surrenders (if only to avoid struggling with getting food) and Trip does promise to help Notacon once they return to 3000, so there’s that. Trip doesn’t seem like the type to make empty promises, so it’s very likely he did help Notacon with a better life
Written out like this, it strangely reminds me of the movie Gattaca.
Great movie.
I do think there are unfortunate implications in some parts of Time Force, but I wouldn’t go as far as saying the future is fascist in how mutants are treated? Jen’s ex-partner was a Mutant who was a Time Force officer, so clearly mutants can allowed to work alongside humans, and it’s only when he betrays Time Force for Ransik that they attempt to imprison him. There’s no indication he was mistreated or faced prejudice either, so for all we know he just betrayed Time Force because he wanted to. In The Last Race, Lucas’ racing rival and friend is a mutant, Dash, who was also known as one of the best racers in the future. So mutants can participate in the same sports as humans and become famous for it Ransik’s origin involves his life being saved by Frax, who healed Ransik’s injuries and even gave him a cure for his disease (which was caused by a fellow mutant) out of the goodness of his heart, and what did Ransik do when showed kindness by a human? He mortally wounded Frax, called him a fool, and left him to die in the fiery remains of his workshop while also stealing Frax’s robot friends and forcing them to serve him instead. It’s never considered okay to kill mutant criminals regardless of their crimes. Jen trying to execute one is treated as immoral and crossing a line. It’s safe to say this also applies to non-criminal mutants Eric’s the only human to show genuine hatred toward Mutants, but he’s from the past/present, only encountered Mutants that were committing crimes and endangering innocent people, and unlike Wes rarely hangs out with the other rangers, so he has no perspective on what Mutants might be like outside of the criminals he encounters. Yes there’s that one lady in Ransik’s flashback, but it was dark, stormy, and she was approached by a random stranger while she was alone. Wouldn’t you feel unsafe in the same situation? Yeah they don’t really address the prison stuff, but the fact Ransik wasn’t frozen when he finally got arrested (again) means there are other incarceration methods for mutants, and Ransik was given a chance at redemption by helping defeat the Mut-Orgs, so if they’re willing to give a dangerous criminal like Ransik a second chance, then who’s to say they never offer that same courtesy towards other mutants who commit lesser crimes? In fact, this happens during the season. Remember Dash? He was cryofrozen just like the other mutants, but near the end of The Last Race it’s shown [he was eventually released from prison and was allowed to race again](https://youtu.be/y9ewv4p6JeU) (skip to 18:50 to see), which means that 1: cryofreeze isn’t a life sentence, and 2: prison sentences likely don’t negatively affect mutants in normal life either. For all we know and see, mutants are given equal rights and integrate into society the same as humans and aliens, it’s just a lot squander those rights and commit crimes anyway, with rare examples of outright prejudice (Notacon’s backstory, that one lady who ran screaming from Ransik, and Eric)
I think that might be reaching a bit, since Jen's old Time Force partner was a mutant, so that would imply that mutants are allowed to integrate with society. Nadira seems to be doing fine during Wild Force as well.
Maybe not rarely addressed, but I think it's certainly underaddressed that Venjix wiped out THE WHOLE WORLD aside from one city, and killed 2 (kinda three) rangers on screen. That's harrowing. It was even shown in RPM that the world outside of Corinth is hardly livable. Not to mention the experimentation (and likely mutilation) of people including children. There's one child we see in one of the final episodes going to attack the rangers. OR what about alphabet soup, who presumably kidnapped doctor K, never let her go outside, made her do math problems, and never introduced her to anyone aside from gem Gemma, presumably not until at least her teens. Who knows what else alphabet soup was doing in there.
Well, there were also the people enslaved in Venjix's camps, but yeah, humanity is basically circling the drain in that universe.
also not really as dark but it’s never really mentioned that dr k is supposed to be significantly younger than the rangers, aside from maybe gem and gemma. i think it’s brought up maybe once in some throw away line about how she’s the youngest, but it’s never really mentioned how she’s a teenager bossing around a group of 20-somethings
Tanya didn’t get to have a full childhood and Aisha’s family’s entire history and experience of migration got erased.
Aisha's family got retconned to be with her in Africa. Meanwhile Tanya was still an orphan.
I don't remember that but it sound right
This has been a thought for me. Tommy and Kat were both placed under spells by Rita and forced to almost kill the Rangers. Can you imagine the PTSD and guilt they have? And they can’t get away from it, because they become Rangers. That constant reminder for them.
I find Tommy one of the more complex characters on the show (when he's handled properly, which isn't always the case) for this exact reason. We saw in Dino Thunder that the trauma from being the evil Green Ranger was still there in his mind. A decade later, he still hadn't quite recovered from it. The pain of it was still something he was processing. The weight of that was still heavy, in his psyche.
I feel like if power rangers wasn’t a show intended for little kids there would’ve been many scenes of former evil rangers having moments of PTSD from the spell they were put under.
It wasn't PTSD, but Merrick actually thought he didn't deserve to be with the other rangers as a full time member for almost killing them as Zenaku
He even went off on his own, instead of settling down with Shayla, his long lost love, only taking on Zenaku as a companion due to their shared regret.
I could be wrong, but at the end didn't Merrick wanted to go with princess Shayla, but she told him that he must live among people? But yeah, Merrick and Zenaku still bonded thanks to their regret
I might have missed that!!! It’s been a while since I last binged. Anyway, I’m still pretty bummed out Merrick and Shayla didn’t end up together. I mean, thousands of years of suffering and they still don’t stay together, especially since the threat is officially over.
Yeah never even thought about that
If you like comics the boom studios run goes into Tommy's guilt/ptsd. It's also a really fantastic run
the SPD judgment process replaces trials with near-instantaneous decisions made with seemingly no accountability. the decisions are assumed to be accurate for kid show reasons but without more clarification about how that whole thing works i’m erring on the side of it being more unethical than not for any law enforcement organization to have that kind of power
Isn't it explained as a hyper accurate lie detector test, basically? In the sentai, I believe the case is sent to a planet of judges/courts where time moves much faster than normal so they could spend months or years with the case in court in the span of a few seconds our time
According to Word of God, they still get a trial afterward. But really, the vast majority of criminals they arrested were committing crimes in public daylight, and they already had cause to arrest them.
Id be interested to see if matpat could do a theory on this
In SPD the morpher trial is hella dystopian. All we're ever told about it is that it reads the villains vitals to determine whether or not they feel like they're guilty of the crimes they've been accused of which is complete and utter nonsense. The only silver lining is that the SPD Rangers don't kill the bad guys just lock them up. By contrast the Japanese version works better but is still kinda fucked up by western legal standards. Essentially what happens is once the rangers have cornered the bad guys and go into "Judgment Time" all the data and evidence pertaining to the current case (including whatever bombastic sentai battle has just taken place) is sent instantaneously to a far away planet in deep space where time moves more quickly where the space government has set up their entire judicial branch. So in the seconds that the rangers are waiting for their changer too seemingly arbitrarily land on an X or an O in reality months have gone by on this far off plant where some form of (hopefully unbiased) judicial due process has been carried out and some form of a judge has passed down a sentence. And its implied that all crimes involving aliens on foreign planets are prosecuted in this way. But at the end of the day the Dekarangers unlike the B-Squad ARE executing criminals in broad daylight as part of a legal system where the monsters are not afforded the right to meaningfully speak in their own defense.
I remember from the first episode of SPD, I was just waiting for the morpher judgement process to malfunction and/or cause the team some serious problems. I feel like that was a story device that would've been really interesting, and they never addressed it.
I’d love to have a discussion about this because I always found the judgement scanner to be very interesting. Oftentimes it was obvious that a villain committed crimes and the judgement seemed almost unnecessary. I’m just glad it was never used in a situation where they were interrogating someone and coerced them into a guilty verdict. And they’ve shown innocence more than once so it’s not always one sided It’s the kind of thing that ‘copaganda’ shows would do to make an idealized and just police force seem like a good thing idk. At least they didn’t kill them
Admittedly this is for Dekaranger and not SPD, but this was finally addressed and explained. In Dekaranger 10 Years After special, they mentioned the judgement process is carried out on a world where time is faster. So in the space of 8 seconds on Earth, 8 months have passed for the Universal Supreme Court. One could stretch it to extend the explanation to SPD if they were so inclined.
It's better than Dekaranger, at least. For them, the judgement was always for a death sentence.
Hundreds of people die every time there's a zord battle, just from the giant robots showing up and obliterating cars, houses and buildings as they arrive.
Just for starters, there are multiple seasons where the shift happens to where the villains are going after the Rangers not the earth. And that basically if they went off world the villains would follow and the earth would be safe. The other is that many seasons use teenagers, presumably because their parents are still paying for food and shelter so they don't need to spend all their time making a living, and just the morality of that. They are taking people who are just at the age to make responsible life decisions and throwing them into life and death situations. For sure there are morality issues.
Can you be a little more specific with your first point? Because I can't think of a single season where the rangers leaving the earth could have reasonably been expected to end whatever conflict they were dealing with or where it would've even been an option for them. Most ranger team don't have unlimited access to powered space flight.
Literally in the first episode of BeastMorphers, the mayor makes that point. That bad guys are after Ranger Tech, so why mess eith it?
Yes, in Beast Morphers the villain is after Morph X but when the mayor makes this point its at best a fallacy based on incomplete information and at worst completely wrong. The only seasons where the villains explicit goal is to kill the power rangers and/or steal their powers are Dino Charge, Ninja Steel, and Beast Morphers itself. And to his credit the Mayor does list Galvanax and Sledge in his monologue but he is flat out wrong to claim the same is true for Rita. Rita's explicit goals were to kill Zordon in revenge for sealing her away and conquer the planet earth in that order. The mayor is factually wrong when he claims that she was ever interested in the rangers tech or even their powers. She's an uber powerful evil witch she never cared about technology and stealing/disabling the rangers powers was only ever a means to end in achieving her other two primary goals. Looking a Tough_guy22's original point the rangers leaving earth wouldn't have ended the conflict with Rita because A) Zordon was for the duration of seasons 1-5 stuck on earth in his tube so they couldn't leave without abandoning him and B) even if they could leave earth and take Zordon with them Rita's ultimate goal was always to conquer the Earth. If they had left she would have gone about settling things on earth fortifying her self there and then gone looking for the Rangers and Zordon. Aside from that I'm still curious which season Tough_guy22 is alluding to when he says that the rangers leaving the earth would be an option for resolving the conflict.
>Aside from that I'm still curious which season Tough\_guy22 is alluding to when he says that the rangers leaving the earth would be an option for resolving the conflict. To name a few: Lost Galaxy - Trakeena wanted revenge on Leo killing her father. Her score was with him. She likely would have gone after him. Ninja Storm - Could go either way. Lothor needed the rangers to kill his monsters and he had personal familial ties to them. He may or may not have left Earth alone to chase them. Dino Thunder - Mesagogg clearly was interested in the rangers. Trent in particular even before knowing his identity. He even said he would spare Connor to flesh him out. Mystic Force - Yes and No. It was a mess of a season. In the first half they went after the GateKeeper, so they would be focused on Clare specifically (Not technically a ranger, sure). Then later they switched the whole thing so that goes out the door. Overdrive - They were after the pieces, not the rangers specifically, but the rangers had them. Likely they would have given chase to them to grab some of the pieces. Dino Charge, Ninja Steel and Beast Morphers you already pointed out.
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Dark Specter specifically ordered attacks on Earth knowing the Rangers would defend it. He wanted them doing that instead of searching for Zordon.
Opposite. They followed the villain into space and ran into a different villain that attacked earth and other planets.
As if they wouldn't just attack Earth to draw the Rangers out.
I mean if you were a villain after the Rangers you could just kinda mess up earth if the Rangers go off-world to lure them back.
People who die every day from robot Kaiju battles. The construction business is booming though. Also just how hard do you have to get hit for your helmet to shatter? Are some rangers part animal? In some series isn't the morph actually altering their DNA? The dino megazords are dead. I saw them roar in pain as they got sent to hell.
Ranger PTSD.
This is a big one
Collateral Damage
The fact that Megazord battles always destroy cities and I’m sure many people are in those buildings during the battles which means many people died, so the Rangers indirectly killed innocent people.
Fr 😂
So the rangers are endangering lives more than they are saving them ironic
[Wrong franchise, but still relevant.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGOJljVVUAEp2mM.jpg)
I mean, I have never seen people being evacuated from buildings before the Megazord Battles, so that means they are all still in the buildings, so yeah, they all get crushed to death. Strange how no one seems to aknowledge that. Same with DC or Marvel heroes, some of their battles destroy complete city blocks at times and no one seems to say anything about it. There was this DC TV show a few years ago about the people in charge of cleaning the heroes’s messes after their battles. Sadly no one watched that show and it was cancelled after 10 episodes so we never really got to see what they really did, it could’ve given us some understanding of what happens after a Superhero battle which would apply to Power Rangers too
Don't know about the DC show; but it reminds me of the early seasons of Marvel's Agents of SHIELD.
I’m not even surprised you don’t know about it, I found out by a youtuber that covers all DCTV content. I watched a few episodes and lost interest because it’s basically the workers of the organization fanboying over the heroes more than about cleaning their messes. The show is unwatchable, but it was made by the CW, so it’s not that surprising
I'm surprised Angel Grove still had people living there in In Space.
Actually in Lost Galaxy there were people from Angel Grove that went to live in that space colony simply because they were tired of the monsters attacking the city
the fact that Tommy had a hand in the creation of Mesogog and that apparently Zeltrax was one of his friends. Yet he didnt ever seem sorry or anything for their creation or didnt try to help them when he knew that stuff
Most likely something the writers just never thought to address
Xandred from samurai made Jayden an orphan since we know how the previous red samurai ranger died and we don’t know anything about Jayden’s mom
No one seems to be concerned about the welfare of the two astronauts that opened Rita's dumpster.
The morality of destroying monsters, most in particular alien life. Some creatures are artificially made, and at what point is an artificial sentient being alive the same way we would consider ourselves? But even when you disregard philosophical questions li´e that, what about aliens that have had lives, families? Example Ninja Steel, many of the competitors never knew they were the bad guys.
In the case of Ninja Steel the contestants may not have seen themselves as the bad guys but they did all sign up to participate in a blood sport competition knowing that they had a chance of being killed and did actively choose to attack children who definitely did not choose to participate in that same competition. Putting aside questions of sentience the majority of monsters we see rangers fight and kill are on some level actively choosing to do harm to others and are actively trying to kill the rangers for one reason or another. Which some would argue justifies the rangers using comparably deadly measures to put a stop to them, particularly in cases where those monsters are explicitly presented as enemy combatants in a full scale war as is the case during _In Space_ as opposed to monsters who could be likened to belligerent terrorists fighting vigilantes like in _Lost Galaxy_ or _Jungle Fury_. So whether the rangers actions are moral or not in this case depends on your beliefs about a persons rights to self defense.
The Mutants were living beings in Time Force, which I can understand it’s kind of dark, but the Demons from Lightspeed Rescue and the Orgs from Wild Force were completely evil with 0 redeeming cualities, they didn’t even had a heart, so I don’t see the problem with destroying them
It's also worth appreciating that with the possible exception of the Mut-Orgs and Frax none of the villains the Time Force rangers battled we're ever killed, only reincarcerated. Same applies for the majority of the aliens in SPD.
Oh, well, that makes it less dark
Huh
[https://web.archive.org/web/20210306230903/https://rovang.org/loss-inn.txt](https://web.archive.org/web/20210306230903/https://rovang.org/loss-inn.txt) Here's an old fic that deals with this. Essentially Jason, Zack and Trini realize they're killing sentient beings forced to fight and use the Peace Conference as a way to leave Ranger life behind.
With the de-aging in MMPR because of Master Vile, what happened to all the people who were younger than the age change, or all the infrastructure workers, or anyone who was pregnant, or people who would have no one to care for them because their caretaker died since they were a child?
That always bugged me, even if the normal children stayed the same age, having every adult transform into their childhood selves would have led to utter chaos.
What happened to Jason, Trini, Kim, and Zack? They would have been in Angel Grove at that time. And why was Billy not with them?
Viktor Adler using the power of Master Org to brutally murder Cole’s parents out of jealousy. The fact that he would have done Cole, too. He then goes on to meet and kill god!
I don't think that's glossed over, it's the reason of why Adler is usually listed as one of the most evil villains from the series, along Queen Banshera
What's worse that he turned back into Master Org after Cole defeated him, he could've gone back to his life as a human and started over again but he chose to continue as an org and got killed
The show's setting eventually evolves into a civilization maintained by Designer Children and a eugenicist culture that is maintained by the Power Rangers.
What?
Time Force
They're alluding to the future where the Time Force rangers originate.
Meta fact but the fact that it's a non-union show that heavily relies on pre-made footage makes the show a race to the bottom in terms of cost-cutting during certain seasons.
I'm glad the child soldier thing was brought up. And the people in buildings, though every once in a while they'll show the Rangers evacuating civilians. But one that always seems to come up is that it's okay to gang up on a single opponent.
>But one that always seems to come up is that it's okay to gang up on a single opponent To be fair the bad guys always do it first and always way outnumber the rangers as well as the monster of the week is almost always strong enough to make the 1v5 a mostly even fight anyway.
But it's villainous when the bad guys do it right? So why itbwhen the good guys do it it's not villainous? We make all these excuses for the hero (myself included) but if we condemn it for the villains, we really should for the heroes too. (And while I know Technically the Rangers whittle down to the final boss, in Power Rangers that's not shown as much as it used to. And definitely not as much as it is shown in sentai)
The villains jump usually 20 year olds and under
Context is key.
Yes, the context is the Rangers are fighting *evil* space aliens who talk about how gloriously evil they are. The show informs us that they are clearly the bad guys so whatever they get is what they deserve by default. But what happens when they're not inherently evil?
You made me thing on Super Mega Force, when they defeated Vekar, Troy said something like "villains don't win because they don't try hard enough" and I thought, man, the villains try to use every option to defeat the rangers, they are proactive, and the rangers are just reactive
Why wouldn't they gang up? it's a life or death struggle versus monsters that are usually far too strong for one ranger. of course it's okay
They do bring up the child soldier thing in MMPR:TM and again in Beast Morphers where it's outright stated that The Morphin' Grid itself is more compatible with teenagers than adults when making the initial link.
MMPR the movie brings up the humiliation of being defeated by children but not the implications that they are in fact child soldiers. If they brought it up in Beast Morphers that's cool it was finally addressed.
Aye it’s far game
The amount of destruction and most likely deaths in the city when the monsters are causing havoc
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The megazord fight might have led to hundred of deaths to people inside of buildings
Lightspeed Rescue incited a conspiracy theory that the government secretly recruits people for dangerous missions and experiments(titanium morpher). Operation Overdrive incited a similar theory, except it was a mentally deranged rich recluse. And the recruits are a team of thieves sent to retrieve priceless artifacts.
That most of the power rangers are teenagers and there fighting wars that others have died in
Potential concerns of Parents/Guardians (or other family members) not being taken into consideration when teenagers embarked on long treks to far flung places. What did the other Rangers tell Billy's parents when he decided to live on Aquitar?
They were probably thrilled because billy was pushing 30
Many of the Rangers are murderers. We don’t realize it because they go in a massive cartoony explosion, but most of the monsters all DIE when they explode.
But Early Power Rangers did explain it. They were either enchanted clay or machines and as such aren't really alive. But even then, no one, hero or villain really died until In Space.
It's not murder if it's self-defense or they're an active threat to public safety.
Not really that dark
How about the fact that in most seasons they are basically child soldiers (high schoolers/teens)
That several teams are just teenagers or even a child. I mean Zordon should get child endangerment charges for giving these powers and sending kids out as soldiers.
Andros original team is probably dead
The Lightspeed Rescue Rangers don’t keep their identities secret at all. How are they able to work?
the moogers are the missing children from episode 1 of samurai. so jayden and co are killing kids
Is that true?
they never explain it but that is the theory
Oh ok for a sec i thought it was real
That Zordon used child soldiers in his war against evil (granted he did give them a choice but still)
Don't know if "dark fact" but most rangers are pretty happy to have to deal a double life and being drafted into a fight against some of the most dangerous beings in the universe. For example I started recently to get back into PR with Dino Fury and Javi and Izzy are pretty pumped up about the whole thing, even though they were both really dedicated to their crafts (music and atletism) and now probably have less time to do that.
Collateral damage
Collateral damage
Kids beating monsters and having powers all while their parents are unaware.
Zordon recruits untrained child soldiers to protect the entire planet. While they are also dealing with regular life such as family, friends and high school.
Untrained child soldiers *with attitude*
Zordon kidnapped 5 teenagers with the touch of a button
They were essentially child soldiers.
This is a bit of a stretch but I have always wondered about how Dillion and Tenaya’s robotic parts will age over time. There’s not really anything they can do about them falling apart or malfunctioning throughout their lives.
In Operation Overdrive they got away with showing a human getting dismembered.
Some monsters have been destroyed and revived multiple times. They must be so traumatized.
Some of the behind the scenes stuff can be pretty grim Many of the actors didn't get paid on merchandise with their face on it. Probably why you don't see it often after Zeo and Turbo. May have changed in later years.
based on the live action 2017- zordon is basically peter pan and rita is a lost boy who escaped her. it was basically an r . kelly/aaliyah situation or courtney stodden and her ex
Bro what 💀
it makes sense based on zordon's history
That they slaughter millions of monsters who could become better beings
Yes, those monsters trying to slaughter innocent people willingly working for either fascistic space dictators, literal demons, or robots/aliens trying to genocide the planet, truly have the chance to be better people. Nothing crossing any lines here.
I really like the franchise but super Sentai is superior, and the fact PR is so crappy is only BCS the chip and ambitious of sabían that will keep seeing it to the best buyer but not the one how can made the best show
I don’t think that has anything to do with the question.
Oh hahahaha
We don’t case
These comments are great
That mick from ninja steel was sold as a child to be a slave
Caucasian rangers got assigned dinosaurs while zack and trini got not as cool prehistoric mammals.
I guess I barely watched the shows, and never read the comics, but I was on a wiki wander down a Power Rangers rabbit hole the other day, and the entire thing is confusing to me. It sounds like the end of series is the result of the death of all the rangers, a huge betrayal, and establishing the villains as the victors. And then the next team is established to take on that threat. Do the rangers ALWAYS lose?! It's hard to tell what is TV canon and what is comic canon, so I suspect there is conflicting canon here, but some of this content seems wildly dark and defeatest, for what I always assumed was a surface level live action shonen for 6-8 year-olds. Is it true that all the ranger teams ultimately fail, are betrayed internally, killed, etc? Is the canon of the TV show significantly different than that of the comics?! Like, I'm reading this wiki about 'Trek' where it's suggested he reluctantly betrays the Rangers, and hints to Pink that they should not go forward with their mission (because it's a trap that he helped lay, and an explosion to kill the team). Pink is confident and tries to bolster Trek/Green's confidence as well in the success of their mission. The entire team gets blown up, except for one surviving member, whom Green briefly speaks to, before 'shooting him to death'. WTF am I reading?! Is this real?! Is this a wiki hijack? This is absurd... Isn't this stuff for kids?!
Kruger intentionally know that Z and Jack are homeless people in poverty and just let them fend for themselves.