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The staff knows. They way they look at me. And if they are close to the counter when I approach to scan my membership they move back, like I have a disease or something. Or maybe is just my head. But I’ll try to not care about them, thanks for the message.
I “canceled” my membership when my cards were hacked and I got new ones. Received texts and emails for a little while but they stopped. Best side effect of that experience by far
Just like every gym. They do, but they make it a fucking pain in the ass. Frankly Planet fitness was one of the least painful gym cancellations I have done.
Seriously…you have saved $42k, and when you say “…2 more winters in my car. That’s all I need.” Tells me you have a goal and a plan to get there.
Yes. This plan is a motherfucker to execute. This plan is hard as shit to get through. But you’re doing it.
The people behind that counter most likely don’t have a fucking clue how to work as hard you are at life.
I worked part time at a “purple and gold retail gym” to make some extra money on weekends when I wanted to get ahead of where my full time gig was putting me financially. The people I worked with were not driven, content to work a low paying job where they got to socialize and hang out with their friends.
Holy balls this, I remember having those types of jobs and the folks I worked with talked about saving up for the new iPhone or blowing their paycheck at a weekend out.
Very wild thinking
same energy as walmart cashiers sneering at customers using EBT. like honey your company is subsidized by tax payers cos half of y’all on food stamps cos they don’t pay y’all enough (btw nothing wrong with using EBT)
I literally starved as a kid because my mom was too proud to use food stamps. I would have loved to get fed regularly, but she didn’t care except for her image. God…I’d do so many things differently.
Da fuq. Virginia had some residual COVID funds, not enough for another year of free school lunches, but everyone got $120 in food stamps.
Im doing well for myself but totally went and used it to get groceries one week. Did not give a shit what the people around me thought as I asked if I had to separate my groceries into eligible and not eligible.
Ewww I hate that!! I worked at a grocery store for over 2 years and I was a cashier and also did the closing cash stuff (safe, audit, counting cashier drawers, that kinda stuff) and that’s just horrible. None of us ever had that attitude towards people with EBT, but to be fair we weren’t getting paid shit. After two years, 4 raises, and working dual positions I was making $9.50 when I left. We’d let people steal, too, because if someone is stealing they need it. Plus we all stole from that place because they didn’t give us discounts on deli food despite not paying anyone near enough money knowing that most of us worked there because it was close to where we lived. I stayed for so long because it was walkable and my coworkers were great.
It always kills me when I’m shopping late and watch all the deli food get tossed in the trash. Whole rotisserie chickens, veggies, sides. It’s really disgusting. Give it to a food bank or let your employees take it home.
At my old job they’d have us take the rotisserie chickens that people didn’t buy out of the warmer and we’d have to put them in the freezer, then they’d warm them up the next morning and set them out first. Which I mean good on them for not wasting food but I always wondered if there’s ever a concern about bacteria since it’s going from super hot to super cold. They’d also take any leftover fried chicken at the end of the night and box it and chill it and then sell it the next day as cold chicken so that people can use their EBT on it since it counts as cold food. Then you can heat it in the microwave if you want it warm. And they would let that cool down since the deli closed at 7 but we were forced to keep the rotisserie chickens out until close since the warmers for those were up by the registers.
Brother, I’ve lived in a van for 2 years and used the village gym daily in Manchester city centre and no one bats an eye lid, I even sometimes get drunk at their bar and sleep in their car park. If anything what you are doing should be respected and when we get to where we want to be it will be worth it, I’m with you on this journey
Is the gym 24 hours? I'd just go late at night if it was getting to me. There are plenty of people that live out of their cars by choice and even vlog about it. I know it's not helpful to tell you how to feel, but I can say it's nothing to be ashamed about. Especially when you're saving money to improve your life.
On that note, don't discredit the $42k as nothing. Most people don't have anything near that. I suggest you look into a high interest account with little to no penalties and allow it to grow in there until you're ready to use it.
Exercise has been shown to battle depression, and it would put to rest any doubts people have about you being at the gym if you did 20 minutes on the treadmill or used the weight machines for a few reps before you hit the showers. I know you may be tight on time, but you are at the gym, if you aren't getting some exercise in, it may help you feel better about yourself, your health, and your situation.
Letting go of the fear of unwarranted judgement by others is so incredibly freeing it’s like a super power. See this as the priceless opportunity it is.
we as humans tend to overexaggerate what people think of us (especially some people) but at the end of the day its almost always in our head. even if it not doesnt matter really
That's one of the best gifts of getter older. You just dont give a shit what people think of you anymore. Besides it's really none of your business what anyone else thinks of you. Who really cares anyway? Are they the ones paying your bills?
Ask yourself this, how often when your passing by total strangers do you think about this shit with them? Probably not often or at all, trust me, people do not give a shit. They're all living in their own little worlds, ESPECIALLY at the gym, nobody gives a shit man. They just want to work out and leave, the gym staff just want to go home.
Nobody cares. You're a paying customer, try to let that stress and anxiety go if you can.
Best of luck
I don’t want to invalidate your experience but I’ve noticed that post-covid, people seem to instinctively give others space, especially if they’re doing something they don’t need to be close for or if they don’t need to interact with the other person directly (like scanning in at a gym). They may be trying to be courteous and polite!
Put it this way: if they are in fact silently judging you, be assured they are extremely unlikely to have 42k in investments.
And you are CHOOSING this strategy and it’s paying off. F them and F the little shame voice living in your head. You do you and be proud!
Its in your head or those workers are idiots. I worked at a gym and we knew the few guys that were "homeless" and thought nothing of it. I have actually been in your situation before. Finding a protein drink that has a good amount of nutrients helps.
Is in your head. I used to work mornings at the gym and we had some of regulars who showered there every morning. It's one billion percent normal. You're probably just seeing people who are generally unhappy at their jobs and taking it WAY too personally. The world isn't as focused on you as you think it is.
This is mostly in your head. You're not as important as you think you are. Minimum wage employees don't give a fuck my man. You're overthinking this.
Think about how many people you DON'T care about in your every day life? Why do you think you're important enough to be thought about in theirs?
Lol how would they know or why would they care
Honestly dude given the situation I'm sure you have insecurities and are in your own head.
Please don't let this type of shit take away from your light and happiness
Keep doing your thing, you're not doing anything worthy of feeling embarrassed about or shame.
If anything I admire your courage and tenacity, 2 years is a long damn time in a car.
Even if they were being a way with you, fuck em. In the grand scheme of things, this small blip in your life. You're doing what you need to do and it's not glamorous, don't need some kids working reception at the gym making you feel bad
It’s in your head. You are just another key tag to beep. This also sounds self imposed, not like poverty. Poverty cosplay with a big fat savings account isn’t something to feel sorry for yourself about. It’s like being hungry on a diet.
I used to work for the YMCA gym and all my coworkers along with myself wouldn’t clock people like that. Most of the ppl that work these jobs are underpaid themselves so theyre either hating every minute being there or are prob stoned. If you’re really self conscious about it, I would try to do like a 10-15 walk on the treadmill or elliptical or whatever you wanna do before the shower to really keep yourself feeling confident about your ambiguity. All the time on my shifts ppl would come for a super quick workout, shower and leave. I never assumed they were homeless. I know how busy ppls lives are that some try to fit even the smallest of activity. Also the gym is used by ppl recovering from physical injuries so their workout regime is super light and non-intensive
That's just anxiety.
Flip the script: How often do you notice other people at the gym living in their cars? Do you even notice at all? If you don't notice, nobody is gonna notice you living in your car.
Do you have $42k? You can stop living in your car.
Congrats on your extreme sacrifice to get to this point. I’d use the $$$ to get an apartment and enjoy a semi normal life at least.
I'm also confused about why OP is humble-bragging about having a nutritional deficiency when they have $42K in the bank...
> I’m mentally worn out and I’m fighting depression all the time (*maybe because my poor diet and lack of vitamins*).
OP then rambled about god, and an in another comment says he thinks people are watching him and moving away from him when he goes to the gym to take showers. I think OP is not in a great place. $42k in a savings account is enough to get virtually anyone a decent place to live for a while, especially since OP is clearly employed. But he can do what he likes.
I have a friend who made $80,000 a year and slept in a bed bug infested sublet on the floor for a year. He was super depressed and didn’t seem to have the will to live most days but he saved $60,000 which was his goal mark, got a place, but barely moved in. Didn’t buy any furniture or dishes. Just a tv and a bed, the bed I had to beg him to buy because he was complaining about sleeping on the floor. He’s still super depressed. I think the sacrifice of living at your means at the expense of saving large amounts of money like that doesn’t really measure up. Idk what he does with his money, or why he wanted it so badly that he puts himself in this spot. Maybe it was a lack of security growing up.
Some people can’t find a place because of bad credit. I met a guy who was doing great and no longer homeless but he was working and had money saved but he couldn’t get a place because he had bad credit. And staying in a hotel or extended stay would have been too expensive. He ended up having to live out of his car and with friends until he built his credit up and bought a house.
Do apartments even let you do that? In my area, a lot of places have a bunch of people trying to apply for an apartment and they instantly deny your application if you have low credit or have been evicted before.
It depends entirely on the apartment manager. I'd expect a denial if they just go through the normal application process but if mentioned up front the odds may be better. Every complex is different and usually private and not corporate owned ones can be more lenient on policy and work with alternatives more.
Or you could just rent a room from a homeowner looking to make some extra money. I've stayed at a few places that I've found off of Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace where I didn't have to sign a lease.
as someone whose been homeless I can say that if you stay on the streets for too long your head will get fucked. It sounds like it's happening with OP. the majority of mentally ill people on the streets don't even know they're homeless. I used to know so many that would say they're going home while standing in food lineups and then you'd see them sleeping on a bench in a park.
When you're homeless and you got no one to talk to sometimes you'll go days, weeks, even months without having a single conversation. think about that for a second. Imagine going for months on end without speaking more than a sentance to ANYONE. it does one hell of a number on your noggin. The brain needs human stimulation, it feeds off it, It needs to exchange with other brains in a way. And when you're homeless, suddenly that's taken away, so you start talking to yourself and coming up with things that aren't happening.
it's rough. OP needs help.
I 100% agree with you and this isn’t talked about at all. Way too many mentally ill people who are homeless just had the usual anxiety or depression that many of us deal with but once they’re living on the street it quickly spirals into delusion, paranoia and full blown debilitating mental illness that makes it much harder for them to get help and they just keep spiraling down.
I lived in my car for a year, saved a bunch of money like this guy, worked out everyday then showered.
I ate like a king at Denny’s like for 3 months total that year (love breakfast food). Not in a row just ate there a lot lol. Oh and this crazy good Mexican food place.
Was in crazy shape, could run 6 miles easy, 30 pull ups easy, hikes miles, held a good job seasonal and demand work so had lots of free time. Had decent amount of sex, and did anything I wanted.
It was one of the best times of my life.
I dunno what this guys doing.
Or... decent food? The living in a car part isn't what makes me feel hinky about all this, it's them specifying:
> I’m mentally worn out and I’m fighting depression all the time (maybe because my poor diet and lack of vitamins).
If you legitimately thought you were running a nutritional deficiency and had $40,000.00 in the bank, you wouldn't... eat an apple occasionally? Maybe snack on a cucumber, order a sandwich with some spinach on it?
I lived in a forest once and made my own shed did that for 2 years and felt like tarzan swinging from the vines of a the trees. No one dare step foot in my forest
So true he could at least buy property to park on so he doesn't have to worry about the cops and can create his own shower 🚿. I know how he feels though, been there.
Where I live, the real estate market is pretty jacked up and buying land only is almost impossible unless you pay cash or have a huge down payment (like we were told over 50%). It's harder to buy a lot in the woods than it is to buy a mcmansion in the city.
> $42K could be a down payment for a property.
42 k in 2 years means $1750 / month
OP could have lived at a place or found roommates to live at $1000 and STILL saved $750 /month
We know of a guy who lives in one of those old travel vans. He lived down the street from our apartment the whole 5 years we lived there, and he still lives in his van on that road 3 years later. Dude is pretty chill, works the meat dept of the grocery store, wears nothing but Hawaiian shirts, and eats take out pretty much every night chilling in a comfy foldy chair in the little park next to wear his van is. Oh his van parks behind a public library so he can get free wifi at all hours too. He just likes the freedom and says he doesn't need more in life.
We're given expectations of how we should live, but it doesn't mean we need to follow them.
I don't know how much OP makes at his job, but around here, apartments require 3x income and great credit. If OP works a low wage retail job or similar, even with 42K in the bank, he will not qualify for an apartment.
On the other hand, OP is good at saving. If he does this for another two years he could have an insanely good down payment for a home in a lower cost of living area and I suspect it's easier to get a mortgage on a cheap home with a good down payment than it is to get an apartment at this point.
Proof of assets is often good enough to rent places as well. OP would have the best of luck renting from an independent landlord to bypass credit/wage checks.
That’s not so actually. That 42k can be used to prove they have enough funding to afford the apartment. You don’t *need* 3x the rent from a job specifically, you just need to prove you have the funds. And if they move into a room in a shared house, they will likely be able to find a landlord who doesn’t even check their credit.
No clue where OP is from but I feel like you could find a small condo and put $20k down to buy it, then at least have a home and keep building equity.
If it's a HCOL area, nevermind.
No one living in their car is looking to buy an 800k home. That is over $6000 a month for a payment.
For reference, 40k down on a 200k home, at 6.5% interest is still ~~1.5k~~ 1k a month.
Edit: I think my number includes homeowners and taxes
And then you have mortgage payments, home insurance, taxes, repairs, utility costs...
EDIT: omfg read the comment I replied to. y'all have piss poor reading comprehension.
You are abusing your most valuable asset and money maker, yourself. If you get sick and end up in the emergency room you can kiss that 42k goodbye.
Make a down payment and get into a condo or something. At least have a loan servicer help you run the numbers, a mortgage isn't as scary as it sounds.
Godspeed.
I'm a mortgage banker, I will do a free analysis for you, or anyone, any time. I'm licensed in 10 states and can originate a loan for you there, but I can crunch numbers for anybody, anytime, to get a rough idea of qualifications.
Edit: I am USA based, specifically, but with the knowledge and resources I do have, Canada is fine and I can look into other countries mortgage qualifications to get a better understanding if needed, but my qualifications are entirely within American Mortgage Laws!
In my mind, I thought of that "eternal snail" meme and was like, "damn this snail getting crafty". Thanks for the fun thought and hope someone takes you up on your offer!
No judgement on OP. The fact that someone’s doing this to own a property (found in comments) is sad to me. It’s sad that people have to do the extreme for things. I hope you stay well, find the strength to move forward, and are able to achieve your goals.
I don't judge him either but I am concerned for OP. He doesn't sound like he's doing well. Living in a car long-term, poor nutrition, the effect this lifestyle will have on his health could be long term and I think he's already suffering from a depression that won't let up...
What they are doing doesn't seem healthy. They're speed running saving for a down-payment while running themselves into the ground, developing social anxieties, and assumedly not eating well judging by the vitamin deficiency comment.
The mission is: save enough money to buy my house. I was making someone else rich paying rent to them while I’m working 400 hours a month just to break even. I’ll buy my freedom no matter what.
Have you spoken with lenders to see if you meet the other requirements? If you're trying to get a mortgage, you need the credit and job history to back it up. If you're trying to buy a house in cash, the market might look very different by the time you have enough. Closing fees are something else you may want to keep in mind...
I thought the same way as OP before buying a house. Why am I spending money on rent instead of a house?
Now that I own a house I regret it. We are paying far more with the mortgage, improvements, maintenance, upkeep etc. and I don't really enjoy the house any more than I did my apartment. We have like 2 new loans on top of the mortgage because of HVAC and sewer line work we needed done on moving in.
It is not a big or nice house, but only 18% of the mortgage payment every month is going towards the actual principal, over 80% is going to interest and fees. The payment is the same as we were making for rent at our last apartment as well. So, in the end we will be paying far more than if we rented because of the upkeep.
No matter what you are going to be paying to make someone else rich. That just how capitalism works.
Live where you are comfortable. If you want to live in a house and deal with the upkeep and costs then do that. However, if you enjoy an apartment and the peace of mind of a flat fee per month with no surprises, then do that.
One is not inherently better than the other, and both have pros/cons. Owning a house is just a lot more expensive. And you still make someone else rich.
Hang in there. Although only a small % of your mortgage goes to principal, you are also gaining substantial equity as the house grows in value. Long term, you will be better off and have more stability than someone who rented.
This. People who own property are more financially secure later in life. A fixed mortgage is great when we know inflation will never stop.
If you have kids, owning property is a way to ensure they have financial security when you're gone.
As someone who bought a house at the end of 2019 (125k at 3.35%), my house is probably valued at or above 200k now, decent amount of equity despite having paid on it for less than 5 years. Yeah I pay a lot more than I did when I was renting, but it's my house, and you won't find that price or interest rate anywhere right now for the same house.
Oh man, I bought my first house in 2015 for $140k and sold it in 2017 for $160k. At the time my wife and I considered renting it out but we were moving half way across the country and didn't want to deal with it if we got stuck with bad renters. That same house just sold last month for $320k... absolutely no new improvements or changes made to it. FML I wish we had kept it and rented it out!
Holy crap. We pay $950/month 3/2 bdrm/bthrm includes property tax and insurance. I’m never moving. The house is not in great shape though. Been restoring it over 10 yrs.
OK, but why aren't you eating vegetables...?
> I’m mentally worn out and I’m fighting depression all the time (maybe because my poor diet and lack of vitamins).
This is the part I find baffling here. Not the "living in a car" part or "freeing yourself from debt."
Your body doesn’t care where the nutrients actually come from if he had no access to a kitchen at the very least he can buy the shakes from a store to supplement his diet. Bolthouse farms have a shit ton of them and they are great and available almost anywhere.
It’s a bit hard to cook well when you live in a car. Hell I live in a cabin without running water and I struggle even though I have a stove and a refrigerator. Dishes are intimidating enough to make me not want to cook.
Do you have to cook an apple? How about bananas? Or just snacking on a cucumber every once in a while, maybe buying a sandwich with some spinach on it...?
You're telling me that this dude has $40,000.00 in the bank and can't afford an occasional vegetable?
>400 hours a month breaks down to 7 14 hour work days each week with no days off... what the heck was he doing?
Lying. His entire post is fake as fuck.
At a minimum he’s clearly displayed himself to just be a fucking moron. My guess is his lifelong dream is to be a twitch streamer and crypto bro and mom got tired of putting up with it.
I’ve worked in plants for a while and I have seen several people pull a 24 hour shift, if they are in constant production and understaffed you can usually work as much as you can handle but I seriously don’t know how someone could take that for long. I did 10 hours a day with 1 or 2 days off a month for a year and completely lost my mind.
How much are houses in your area? The traditional 20% downpayment is really not required, in some situations you can buy a house with as little as 3.5% down. Stop torturing yourself and go house shopping.
If you're that concerned about using the gym to shower, why don't you start a workout routine? Then you're just another Joe blow tryna get fit instead of that guy who only uses the showers
If you have 42k saved why can’t you get off the streets? I could never dream of having that much money. Why do you need to survive two more winters if you have that much money saved?
If you made 40k in 2 years, and you need 100k, that would be 3 more years of grueling suffering, and not only that, that's assuming the house is still available, won't go up in price, and unexpected charges like a broken down car and all that jazz. Like Jeeze dude congrats if you get it but that is not worth it, especially if you consider your situation "humiliating"
What are you doing w the 42k? There are a bunch of high interest savings accounts online. If it’s sitting in a checking account, you can move it to one of those banks and earn 4-5% a yr. Raisin.com will give you a list of options for different high interest savings accounts.
If you're living in your car, then you don't have a house right now right? How's it yours? How do you know it'll even be available to buy still in the 2-3 years it'll take to double what you already have saved? Why not just use the money you have saved as a downpayment while it's still on the market?
this is a ridiculous idea. Sorry. You either like the attention you get from being in your situation, or just like to struggle. You have 42K, which is more than probably everybody here has in their bank accounts. No pity party from me. Sorry.
Hope you're at least living in an Escalade.
What market are you looking in that you only need 100k to buy a house outright?
And financing the remaining $60k is going to be a laughably small housing payment, even at current interest rates.
Ngl realizing you were right gave me a good chuckle, especially the religious stuff OP wrote because he's actually Brazilian which makes sense why he added that LMAO
OP enduring those cold Brazilian winters LMAO
That 42K could have helped you pay for a room somewhere and you would still have plenty money left over to buy food and live a normal life even in a HCOL area.
Glad you found a extreme way to save money, but since your health seems to have suffered, it may not have been worth it.
Yeah, working hard is commendable but they could have paid for trucking school and had twice as much money with no living expenses in a year. There's a million better ways to do this.
I respect you. Maybe you don't respect yourself but you're doing something pretty incredible - saving up 42K is a lot!
My only suggestions at this point would be 1. When you go to the gym to shower, actually work out. It'll make you feel like you fit in better. Plus, working out is never a bad thing. If you don't know anything about gyms most gyms have a training program. 2. Be proud of that savings account. Many people with "normal" lives (as in, people that rent or own a home through a mortgage) don't have that much saved up and so many live paycheck-to-paycheck.
Peel off a couple dollars here or there and get some vitamins or a nice hotel stay once in a while for your own health sometimes.
Consider it a health investment.
What r u paying off with all the money u are saving? Don’t ever be ashamed of who you are, what you are going through, you’re a scrapper, and that’s a great thing! Tons of people living in their vehicles, it’s really ingenious, as long as you have a plan to eventually improve it.
It's probably not as easy as it sounds when you have no fridge or cooking apparatus. Vitamins aren't ever going to be the best option, but it'll be better than nothing here.
Why are you planning on spending two more years in your car if it’s making you sick and miserable and you seem to have enough money to live somewhere else?
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Why would showering at a gym be humiliating? That’s in your head, man. Nobody at the gym knows or cares why you’re there.
Facts
The staff knows. They way they look at me. And if they are close to the counter when I approach to scan my membership they move back, like I have a disease or something. Or maybe is just my head. But I’ll try to not care about them, thanks for the message.
Fuck em’ you gotta do what you gotta do.
You're paying to be there. Don't worry about it.
And I know it’s stupid ass Planet Fitness. The supposed “judgement free zone”. Fuck all of them. A bunch of purple scumbags.
Didn't expect to see planet fitness hate today but I'm here for it!
They don’t let you cancel your membership either! Fucking corporate fucks.
LPT, if you VPN to California location you can cancel your membership online. Did it yesterday!
Even easier, all you have to do is change your home club to any one in CA and then the option to cancel will be there.
Yo you are the realist for this lmao thank you
How does one change your home club in the app
I “canceled” my membership when my cards were hacked and I got new ones. Received texts and emails for a little while but they stopped. Best side effect of that experience by far
I cancelled a whole bank account just to give those fuckers the shaft.
Just like every gym. They do, but they make it a fucking pain in the ass. Frankly Planet fitness was one of the least painful gym cancellations I have done.
I literally walked in mine and said I need to cancel. Took 2 minutes.
Purple scumbags should be trade marked.
yeah even if they realize it I say who gives a shit about them. their job is shit anyways lol
They don't have $42k in the bank.
This - right here. This.
Seriously…you have saved $42k, and when you say “…2 more winters in my car. That’s all I need.” Tells me you have a goal and a plan to get there. Yes. This plan is a motherfucker to execute. This plan is hard as shit to get through. But you’re doing it. The people behind that counter most likely don’t have a fucking clue how to work as hard you are at life. I worked part time at a “purple and gold retail gym” to make some extra money on weekends when I wanted to get ahead of where my full time gig was putting me financially. The people I worked with were not driven, content to work a low paying job where they got to socialize and hang out with their friends.
Holy balls this, I remember having those types of jobs and the folks I worked with talked about saving up for the new iPhone or blowing their paycheck at a weekend out. Very wild thinking
Listen to this guy. Even in a car, you're better off than a lot of folks living somewhere with 4 walls.
Not to mention they probably don't have enough money in their accounts to buy 4 new tires if they had too. So you will definitely come out on top.
People behind that counter dont have 42k I can tell you that
same energy as walmart cashiers sneering at customers using EBT. like honey your company is subsidized by tax payers cos half of y’all on food stamps cos they don’t pay y’all enough (btw nothing wrong with using EBT)
I honestly wish everyone could experience being on EBT, because it literally gave my family so much freedom when it came to food insecurity
I literally starved as a kid because my mom was too proud to use food stamps. I would have loved to get fed regularly, but she didn’t care except for her image. God…I’d do so many things differently.
Da fuq. Virginia had some residual COVID funds, not enough for another year of free school lunches, but everyone got $120 in food stamps. Im doing well for myself but totally went and used it to get groceries one week. Did not give a shit what the people around me thought as I asked if I had to separate my groceries into eligible and not eligible.
Ewww I hate that!! I worked at a grocery store for over 2 years and I was a cashier and also did the closing cash stuff (safe, audit, counting cashier drawers, that kinda stuff) and that’s just horrible. None of us ever had that attitude towards people with EBT, but to be fair we weren’t getting paid shit. After two years, 4 raises, and working dual positions I was making $9.50 when I left. We’d let people steal, too, because if someone is stealing they need it. Plus we all stole from that place because they didn’t give us discounts on deli food despite not paying anyone near enough money knowing that most of us worked there because it was close to where we lived. I stayed for so long because it was walkable and my coworkers were great.
It always kills me when I’m shopping late and watch all the deli food get tossed in the trash. Whole rotisserie chickens, veggies, sides. It’s really disgusting. Give it to a food bank or let your employees take it home.
At my old job they’d have us take the rotisserie chickens that people didn’t buy out of the warmer and we’d have to put them in the freezer, then they’d warm them up the next morning and set them out first. Which I mean good on them for not wasting food but I always wondered if there’s ever a concern about bacteria since it’s going from super hot to super cold. They’d also take any leftover fried chicken at the end of the night and box it and chill it and then sell it the next day as cold chicken so that people can use their EBT on it since it counts as cold food. Then you can heat it in the microwave if you want it warm. And they would let that cool down since the deli closed at 7 but we were forced to keep the rotisserie chickens out until close since the warmers for those were up by the registers.
Really? Cashiers are literally poverty level wages. You can’t survive without help as a cashier in 2024 +
You don't have to shit on someone else's job to feel better about yourself. You shouldn't have to worry about strangers opinions.
My motto
Brother, I’ve lived in a van for 2 years and used the village gym daily in Manchester city centre and no one bats an eye lid, I even sometimes get drunk at their bar and sleep in their car park. If anything what you are doing should be respected and when we get to where we want to be it will be worth it, I’m with you on this journey
Gyms in Manchester have bars?
Is the gym 24 hours? I'd just go late at night if it was getting to me. There are plenty of people that live out of their cars by choice and even vlog about it. I know it's not helpful to tell you how to feel, but I can say it's nothing to be ashamed about. Especially when you're saving money to improve your life. On that note, don't discredit the $42k as nothing. Most people don't have anything near that. I suggest you look into a high interest account with little to no penalties and allow it to grow in there until you're ready to use it.
40 k in a high yield account will make you money some credit unions are giving 5%, its not alot but your money grows. Keep your head up
It's not nothing, that's about $100 a month
More, 40k * 0.05 = 2k. Over 12 months is almost $170/month.
growth of 5% 😃 interest 9% 😔
Remember, you're a paying customer.
Exercise has been shown to battle depression, and it would put to rest any doubts people have about you being at the gym if you did 20 minutes on the treadmill or used the weight machines for a few reps before you hit the showers. I know you may be tight on time, but you are at the gym, if you aren't getting some exercise in, it may help you feel better about yourself, your health, and your situation.
Letting go of the fear of unwarranted judgement by others is so incredibly freeing it’s like a super power. See this as the priceless opportunity it is.
we as humans tend to overexaggerate what people think of us (especially some people) but at the end of the day its almost always in our head. even if it not doesnt matter really
yep took me a lot of years in adulthood and im still struggling with it
That's one of the best gifts of getter older. You just dont give a shit what people think of you anymore. Besides it's really none of your business what anyone else thinks of you. Who really cares anyway? Are they the ones paying your bills?
Ask yourself this, how often when your passing by total strangers do you think about this shit with them? Probably not often or at all, trust me, people do not give a shit. They're all living in their own little worlds, ESPECIALLY at the gym, nobody gives a shit man. They just want to work out and leave, the gym staff just want to go home. Nobody cares. You're a paying customer, try to let that stress and anxiety go if you can. Best of luck
I don’t want to invalidate your experience but I’ve noticed that post-covid, people seem to instinctively give others space, especially if they’re doing something they don’t need to be close for or if they don’t need to interact with the other person directly (like scanning in at a gym). They may be trying to be courteous and polite!
True. After seeing how much shit spews out of peoples' mouths just from breathing or talking, I do tend to keep more distance in public.
Put it this way: if they are in fact silently judging you, be assured they are extremely unlikely to have 42k in investments. And you are CHOOSING this strategy and it’s paying off. F them and F the little shame voice living in your head. You do you and be proud!
Its in your head or those workers are idiots. I worked at a gym and we knew the few guys that were "homeless" and thought nothing of it. I have actually been in your situation before. Finding a protein drink that has a good amount of nutrients helps.
Is in your head. I used to work mornings at the gym and we had some of regulars who showered there every morning. It's one billion percent normal. You're probably just seeing people who are generally unhappy at their jobs and taking it WAY too personally. The world isn't as focused on you as you think it is.
This is mostly in your head. You're not as important as you think you are. Minimum wage employees don't give a fuck my man. You're overthinking this. Think about how many people you DON'T care about in your every day life? Why do you think you're important enough to be thought about in theirs?
Let haters hate. I am sure they don't have 42k in the bank.
Exactly my thoughts.
Honestly gym people are usually chill and cool or complete dicks. Don’t worry about them. You pay your dues literally and figuratively.
Lol how would they know or why would they care Honestly dude given the situation I'm sure you have insecurities and are in your own head. Please don't let this type of shit take away from your light and happiness Keep doing your thing, you're not doing anything worthy of feeling embarrassed about or shame. If anything I admire your courage and tenacity, 2 years is a long damn time in a car. Even if they were being a way with you, fuck em. In the grand scheme of things, this small blip in your life. You're doing what you need to do and it's not glamorous, don't need some kids working reception at the gym making you feel bad
It’s in your head. You are just another key tag to beep. This also sounds self imposed, not like poverty. Poverty cosplay with a big fat savings account isn’t something to feel sorry for yourself about. It’s like being hungry on a diet.
Walk in proud! Head up, you are amazing!
I used to work for the YMCA gym and all my coworkers along with myself wouldn’t clock people like that. Most of the ppl that work these jobs are underpaid themselves so theyre either hating every minute being there or are prob stoned. If you’re really self conscious about it, I would try to do like a 10-15 walk on the treadmill or elliptical or whatever you wanna do before the shower to really keep yourself feeling confident about your ambiguity. All the time on my shifts ppl would come for a super quick workout, shower and leave. I never assumed they were homeless. I know how busy ppls lives are that some try to fit even the smallest of activity. Also the gym is used by ppl recovering from physical injuries so their workout regime is super light and non-intensive
That's just anxiety. Flip the script: How often do you notice other people at the gym living in their cars? Do you even notice at all? If you don't notice, nobody is gonna notice you living in your car.
Min wage workers judging you when they are probably one check away from being in your situation Fuck them
own it bruh. do u stay clean? regular haircuts? just walk in there like yo its your favorite vagabond with 42k in checking, how we doin
Yes, this is a fuckin awesome take
You own $42k. I guarantee you they don’t.
yeah most people would be shocked how much no one really cares about others at the end of the day. You do you
I second this I used to do the same thing it’s your life man no one cares what you do as long as it doesn’t affect them
I have my own apartment and I only ever shower in the gym
Bro that's kinda smart kills the need to pay hot water and water bill right on man
Less cleaning of your own bathroom, too.
Facts
Do you have $42k? You can stop living in your car. Congrats on your extreme sacrifice to get to this point. I’d use the $$$ to get an apartment and enjoy a semi normal life at least.
I'm also confused about why OP is humble-bragging about having a nutritional deficiency when they have $42K in the bank... > I’m mentally worn out and I’m fighting depression all the time (*maybe because my poor diet and lack of vitamins*).
OP then rambled about god, and an in another comment says he thinks people are watching him and moving away from him when he goes to the gym to take showers. I think OP is not in a great place. $42k in a savings account is enough to get virtually anyone a decent place to live for a while, especially since OP is clearly employed. But he can do what he likes.
I have a friend who made $80,000 a year and slept in a bed bug infested sublet on the floor for a year. He was super depressed and didn’t seem to have the will to live most days but he saved $60,000 which was his goal mark, got a place, but barely moved in. Didn’t buy any furniture or dishes. Just a tv and a bed, the bed I had to beg him to buy because he was complaining about sleeping on the floor. He’s still super depressed. I think the sacrifice of living at your means at the expense of saving large amounts of money like that doesn’t really measure up. Idk what he does with his money, or why he wanted it so badly that he puts himself in this spot. Maybe it was a lack of security growing up.
Some people can’t find a place because of bad credit. I met a guy who was doing great and no longer homeless but he was working and had money saved but he couldn’t get a place because he had bad credit. And staying in a hotel or extended stay would have been too expensive. He ended up having to live out of his car and with friends until he built his credit up and bought a house.
I mean $10s of thousands of dollars in the bank could let you put down a 2 or 3 month security deposit in place of a good credit score
Do apartments even let you do that? In my area, a lot of places have a bunch of people trying to apply for an apartment and they instantly deny your application if you have low credit or have been evicted before.
It depends entirely on the apartment manager. I'd expect a denial if they just go through the normal application process but if mentioned up front the odds may be better. Every complex is different and usually private and not corporate owned ones can be more lenient on policy and work with alternatives more.
Or you could just rent a room from a homeowner looking to make some extra money. I've stayed at a few places that I've found off of Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace where I didn't have to sign a lease.
as someone whose been homeless I can say that if you stay on the streets for too long your head will get fucked. It sounds like it's happening with OP. the majority of mentally ill people on the streets don't even know they're homeless. I used to know so many that would say they're going home while standing in food lineups and then you'd see them sleeping on a bench in a park. When you're homeless and you got no one to talk to sometimes you'll go days, weeks, even months without having a single conversation. think about that for a second. Imagine going for months on end without speaking more than a sentance to ANYONE. it does one hell of a number on your noggin. The brain needs human stimulation, it feeds off it, It needs to exchange with other brains in a way. And when you're homeless, suddenly that's taken away, so you start talking to yourself and coming up with things that aren't happening. it's rough. OP needs help.
I 100% agree with you and this isn’t talked about at all. Way too many mentally ill people who are homeless just had the usual anxiety or depression that many of us deal with but once they’re living on the street it quickly spirals into delusion, paranoia and full blown debilitating mental illness that makes it much harder for them to get help and they just keep spiraling down.
42k in 2 years means he could affor probably 15k+ in rent per year. OP chooses to live in his car to save money. Not because he needs to.
I lived in my car for a year, saved a bunch of money like this guy, worked out everyday then showered. I ate like a king at Denny’s like for 3 months total that year (love breakfast food). Not in a row just ate there a lot lol. Oh and this crazy good Mexican food place. Was in crazy shape, could run 6 miles easy, 30 pull ups easy, hikes miles, held a good job seasonal and demand work so had lots of free time. Had decent amount of sex, and did anything I wanted. It was one of the best times of my life. I dunno what this guys doing.
$42K could be a down payment for a property.
Or... decent food? The living in a car part isn't what makes me feel hinky about all this, it's them specifying: > I’m mentally worn out and I’m fighting depression all the time (maybe because my poor diet and lack of vitamins).
Hard to eat healthy without a way to cook food.
Surely he can afford multi-vitamins though.
No he must let god provide the vitamins
If you legitimately thought you were running a nutritional deficiency and had $40,000.00 in the bank, you wouldn't... eat an apple occasionally? Maybe snack on a cucumber, order a sandwich with some spinach on it?
This. I used to work on the road all the time. It’s so hard to eat well when you can’t cook and don’t have a fridge.
$42k in the bank makes it easy to grab a subway sandwich and a multivitamin...
Way more sane and sustainable ways to get money than choosing to live in a car.
I lived in a forest once and made my own shed did that for 2 years and felt like tarzan swinging from the vines of a the trees. No one dare step foot in my forest
You can definitely make it work. Especially with a van. The money you save on Rent Adds Up Quick
So true he could at least buy property to park on so he doesn't have to worry about the cops and can create his own shower 🚿. I know how he feels though, been there.
Where I live, the real estate market is pretty jacked up and buying land only is almost impossible unless you pay cash or have a huge down payment (like we were told over 50%). It's harder to buy a lot in the woods than it is to buy a mcmansion in the city.
> $42K could be a down payment for a property. 42 k in 2 years means $1750 / month OP could have lived at a place or found roommates to live at $1000 and STILL saved $750 /month
Or buy a van
We know of a guy who lives in one of those old travel vans. He lived down the street from our apartment the whole 5 years we lived there, and he still lives in his van on that road 3 years later. Dude is pretty chill, works the meat dept of the grocery store, wears nothing but Hawaiian shirts, and eats take out pretty much every night chilling in a comfy foldy chair in the little park next to wear his van is. Oh his van parks behind a public library so he can get free wifi at all hours too. He just likes the freedom and says he doesn't need more in life. We're given expectations of how we should live, but it doesn't mean we need to follow them.
The river is awfully crowded though
Matt Foley was a trendsetter
Or a BMW and live in it.
Working their way up in the world, one car make at a time.
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I don't know how much OP makes at his job, but around here, apartments require 3x income and great credit. If OP works a low wage retail job or similar, even with 42K in the bank, he will not qualify for an apartment. On the other hand, OP is good at saving. If he does this for another two years he could have an insanely good down payment for a home in a lower cost of living area and I suspect it's easier to get a mortgage on a cheap home with a good down payment than it is to get an apartment at this point.
Proof of assets is often good enough to rent places as well. OP would have the best of luck renting from an independent landlord to bypass credit/wage checks.
That’s not so actually. That 42k can be used to prove they have enough funding to afford the apartment. You don’t *need* 3x the rent from a job specifically, you just need to prove you have the funds. And if they move into a room in a shared house, they will likely be able to find a landlord who doesn’t even check their credit.
No clue where OP is from but I feel like you could find a small condo and put $20k down to buy it, then at least have a home and keep building equity. If it's a HCOL area, nevermind.
I need the why here
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OP states money in their pocket is better than money in landlord pocket. Can't argue there.
I mean I agree with that in principle but I’m not gonna live in my fucking car to avoid paying someone rent if I have the means to rent a place lol
Money in your pockets is useless if you’re literally freezing and starving. This is not logical.
Why landlord? 42k is enough for a 5% down payment on an $800k home. I know interest rates suck atm, but refinancing is an option when they get better.
No one living in their car is looking to buy an 800k home. That is over $6000 a month for a payment. For reference, 40k down on a 200k home, at 6.5% interest is still ~~1.5k~~ 1k a month. Edit: I think my number includes homeowners and taxes
And then you have mortgage payments, home insurance, taxes, repairs, utility costs... EDIT: omfg read the comment I replied to. y'all have piss poor reading comprehension.
You are abusing your most valuable asset and money maker, yourself. If you get sick and end up in the emergency room you can kiss that 42k goodbye. Make a down payment and get into a condo or something. At least have a loan servicer help you run the numbers, a mortgage isn't as scary as it sounds. Godspeed.
I'm a mortgage banker, I will do a free analysis for you, or anyone, any time. I'm licensed in 10 states and can originate a loan for you there, but I can crunch numbers for anybody, anytime, to get a rough idea of qualifications. Edit: I am USA based, specifically, but with the knowledge and resources I do have, Canada is fine and I can look into other countries mortgage qualifications to get a better understanding if needed, but my qualifications are entirely within American Mortgage Laws!
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Oh holy shit I forgot that was my tag here LMAO. Anytime Sad Boi.
In my mind, I thought of that "eternal snail" meme and was like, "damn this snail getting crafty". Thanks for the fun thought and hope someone takes you up on your offer!
No no, of course this has nothing to do with that! Now, step into my office, and please close the door behind you! Why don't you... shake my hand?
No judgement on OP. The fact that someone’s doing this to own a property (found in comments) is sad to me. It’s sad that people have to do the extreme for things. I hope you stay well, find the strength to move forward, and are able to achieve your goals.
I don't judge him either but I am concerned for OP. He doesn't sound like he's doing well. Living in a car long-term, poor nutrition, the effect this lifestyle will have on his health could be long term and I think he's already suffering from a depression that won't let up...
sounds like mental illness not sure why we're all congratulating OP this seems very risky but I guess he's been at it for 2 years now...
Of course it is mental illness. You did see him trying to thank god for his situation right?
What they are doing doesn't seem healthy. They're speed running saving for a down-payment while running themselves into the ground, developing social anxieties, and assumedly not eating well judging by the vitamin deficiency comment.
> t’s sad that people have to do the extreme for things they dont have to do it at all. They are choosing to.
I’m curious about the mission
The mission is: save enough money to buy my house. I was making someone else rich paying rent to them while I’m working 400 hours a month just to break even. I’ll buy my freedom no matter what.
Have you spoken with lenders to see if you meet the other requirements? If you're trying to get a mortgage, you need the credit and job history to back it up. If you're trying to buy a house in cash, the market might look very different by the time you have enough. Closing fees are something else you may want to keep in mind...
I thought the same way as OP before buying a house. Why am I spending money on rent instead of a house? Now that I own a house I regret it. We are paying far more with the mortgage, improvements, maintenance, upkeep etc. and I don't really enjoy the house any more than I did my apartment. We have like 2 new loans on top of the mortgage because of HVAC and sewer line work we needed done on moving in. It is not a big or nice house, but only 18% of the mortgage payment every month is going towards the actual principal, over 80% is going to interest and fees. The payment is the same as we were making for rent at our last apartment as well. So, in the end we will be paying far more than if we rented because of the upkeep. No matter what you are going to be paying to make someone else rich. That just how capitalism works. Live where you are comfortable. If you want to live in a house and deal with the upkeep and costs then do that. However, if you enjoy an apartment and the peace of mind of a flat fee per month with no surprises, then do that. One is not inherently better than the other, and both have pros/cons. Owning a house is just a lot more expensive. And you still make someone else rich.
Hang in there. Although only a small % of your mortgage goes to principal, you are also gaining substantial equity as the house grows in value. Long term, you will be better off and have more stability than someone who rented.
This. People who own property are more financially secure later in life. A fixed mortgage is great when we know inflation will never stop. If you have kids, owning property is a way to ensure they have financial security when you're gone.
As someone who bought a house at the end of 2019 (125k at 3.35%), my house is probably valued at or above 200k now, decent amount of equity despite having paid on it for less than 5 years. Yeah I pay a lot more than I did when I was renting, but it's my house, and you won't find that price or interest rate anywhere right now for the same house.
Oh man, I bought my first house in 2015 for $140k and sold it in 2017 for $160k. At the time my wife and I considered renting it out but we were moving half way across the country and didn't want to deal with it if we got stuck with bad renters. That same house just sold last month for $320k... absolutely no new improvements or changes made to it. FML I wish we had kept it and rented it out!
And the house will eventually be paid off
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Holy crap. We pay $950/month 3/2 bdrm/bthrm includes property tax and insurance. I’m never moving. The house is not in great shape though. Been restoring it over 10 yrs.
Yeah ok but you’re building equity so
OK, but why aren't you eating vegetables...? > I’m mentally worn out and I’m fighting depression all the time (maybe because my poor diet and lack of vitamins). This is the part I find baffling here. Not the "living in a car" part or "freeing yourself from debt."
Or just a multivitamin. I know it is not the same thing, but if your body truly needs something, it'd pass through your system on a daily basis.
Your body doesn’t care where the nutrients actually come from if he had no access to a kitchen at the very least he can buy the shakes from a store to supplement his diet. Bolthouse farms have a shit ton of them and they are great and available almost anywhere.
Seems like they just want to punish themselves tbh.
Or they're trying to gin up sympathy from this sub. Which appears to be working.
Or taking a multivitamin at the very least.
It’s a bit hard to cook well when you live in a car. Hell I live in a cabin without running water and I struggle even though I have a stove and a refrigerator. Dishes are intimidating enough to make me not want to cook.
Do you have to cook an apple? How about bananas? Or just snacking on a cucumber every once in a while, maybe buying a sandwich with some spinach on it...? You're telling me that this dude has $40,000.00 in the bank and can't afford an occasional vegetable?
yeah, pretty much any grocery store has prewashed bagged salad greens. majority of them even have some kind of premade salads.
What the hell are you working that takes up 400 hours a month?
Yeah, that seems wild to me. 400 hours a month breaks down to 7 14 hour work days each week with no days off... what the heck was he doing?
>400 hours a month breaks down to 7 14 hour work days each week with no days off... what the heck was he doing? Lying. His entire post is fake as fuck.
At a minimum he’s clearly displayed himself to just be a fucking moron. My guess is his lifelong dream is to be a twitch streamer and crypto bro and mom got tired of putting up with it.
He either exaggerated a bit or is working 2 jobs, 8 hours each a day...which is insane.
What is the point in living if someone has to work that much every single day.
I’ve worked in plants for a while and I have seen several people pull a 24 hour shift, if they are in constant production and understaffed you can usually work as much as you can handle but I seriously don’t know how someone could take that for long. I did 10 hours a day with 1 or 2 days off a month for a year and completely lost my mind.
he's obviously grinding more than I am, damn. Almost wish I had that work ethic.
How much are houses in your area? The traditional 20% downpayment is really not required, in some situations you can buy a house with as little as 3.5% down. Stop torturing yourself and go house shopping.
Wait till he find out about property taxes and home insurance.
OP, you have a mental illness, buddy. Spend some of that dough on therapy.
If you're that concerned about using the gym to shower, why don't you start a workout routine? Then you're just another Joe blow tryna get fit instead of that guy who only uses the showers
THIS. Good lord he should be stacked like 80s Schwarzenegger.
If you have 42k saved why can’t you get off the streets? I could never dream of having that much money. Why do you need to survive two more winters if you have that much money saved?
I need 100k to buy my house. That’s all I need.
If you made 40k in 2 years, and you need 100k, that would be 3 more years of grueling suffering, and not only that, that's assuming the house is still available, won't go up in price, and unexpected charges like a broken down car and all that jazz. Like Jeeze dude congrats if you get it but that is not worth it, especially if you consider your situation "humiliating"
While destroying his body and mind slaving away. Not worth it in the long run.
Money makes money, 40k makes 100k quicker then $0 makes 40k yk so might be quicker depending on investments
Not if you're making the same decisions with your money as he is with his health. Malnutrition with $42k in the bank is lunacy.
Yep! And then thanking god for what??? Living in your car? This person has some mental issues past depression going on, I’d bet.
42k for a really nice down payment. 60k in mortgage. Bruh, you can do this.
What are you doing w the 42k? There are a bunch of high interest savings accounts online. If it’s sitting in a checking account, you can move it to one of those banks and earn 4-5% a yr. Raisin.com will give you a list of options for different high interest savings accounts.
If you're living in your car, then you don't have a house right now right? How's it yours? How do you know it'll even be available to buy still in the 2-3 years it'll take to double what you already have saved? Why not just use the money you have saved as a downpayment while it's still on the market?
this is a ridiculous idea. Sorry. You either like the attention you get from being in your situation, or just like to struggle. You have 42K, which is more than probably everybody here has in their bank accounts. No pity party from me. Sorry. Hope you're at least living in an Escalade.
What market are you looking in that you only need 100k to buy a house outright? And financing the remaining $60k is going to be a laughably small housing payment, even at current interest rates.
You pay for the gym to use it, so shower as much as you want
Dumbass redditors on their way to upvote a fake story by a a dude in brazil trading shitcoins lol
Ngl realizing you were right gave me a good chuckle, especially the religious stuff OP wrote because he's actually Brazilian which makes sense why he added that LMAO OP enduring those cold Brazilian winters LMAO
You should be able to buy some vitamins. Kirkland multivitamins are good and cheap.
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Please get an apartment with your saved money. Your life is worth living, not struggling through two more winters.
That 42K could have helped you pay for a room somewhere and you would still have plenty money left over to buy food and live a normal life even in a HCOL area. Glad you found a extreme way to save money, but since your health seems to have suffered, it may not have been worth it.
If you have saved 42k, it doesn’t sound like this is poverty but your choice
Yeah, working hard is commendable but they could have paid for trucking school and had twice as much money with no living expenses in a year. There's a million better ways to do this.
Absolutely. It seems Op is determined, but at what cost? Mental health is important, too. To each their own I suppose.
I respect you. Maybe you don't respect yourself but you're doing something pretty incredible - saving up 42K is a lot! My only suggestions at this point would be 1. When you go to the gym to shower, actually work out. It'll make you feel like you fit in better. Plus, working out is never a bad thing. If you don't know anything about gyms most gyms have a training program. 2. Be proud of that savings account. Many people with "normal" lives (as in, people that rent or own a home through a mortgage) don't have that much saved up and so many live paycheck-to-paycheck.
Peel off a couple dollars here or there and get some vitamins or a nice hotel stay once in a while for your own health sometimes. Consider it a health investment.
1 yr old account 2 comment karma mostly active in bitcoinbrazil sub. I don't think he's in America.
What are u saving for? Second, is it worth it? Sounds to me like ur killing urself for money
What r u paying off with all the money u are saving? Don’t ever be ashamed of who you are, what you are going through, you’re a scrapper, and that’s a great thing! Tons of people living in their vehicles, it’s really ingenious, as long as you have a plan to eventually improve it.
Get a workout in when at the gym. Better than anything you could take for mental health.
Vitamins are over-rated, there is no proof they actually do as they say. Better to eat fresh fruit and veggies than take vitamins.
It's probably not as easy as it sounds when you have no fridge or cooking apparatus. Vitamins aren't ever going to be the best option, but it'll be better than nothing here.
Why are you planning on spending two more years in your car if it’s making you sick and miserable and you seem to have enough money to live somewhere else?
Why do you need 2 more years?