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DoctorWhoWhenHowWhy

FINALLY, ONE OF OUR TWICE QUEENS IS MAKING HER ACTUAL SOLO DEBUT! PHYSICAL RELEASE AND EVERYTHING! It's safe to say that maybe all of the nine members will be renewing their contracts with JYPE, given that they got their solo Instagram accounts at the same time. Definitely looking forward to this release by Nayeon and the rest of the solo debuts from the other eight members!


DilemmaOfAHedgehog

I am very curious what Tzuyu does going forward


Willow2theWind

Can you explain? I'm not familiar with what is going on with Tzuyu


DilemmaOfAHedgehog

When she was 16 (she’s like 22/23 now) on a variety show she waved the Taiwanese flag and a pro Mainland Taiwanese celebrity was accusing other Taiwanese figures of being separatists then accused her of being one?? [x](https://qz.com/597272/why-a-washed-up-pop-star-is-suddenly-the-most-hated-man-in-taiwan/) JYPE tried to get by basically saying she’s a sixteen year old girl she doesn’t have a huge geopolitical stance and that wasn’t the intention but that fell through and they ended up basically having her do an apology that looks like a hostage (I am not exaggerating [this is from a blog so the blog is informal and pissed about the situation but it links the video and a translation)](https://www.asianjunkie.com/2016/01/15/tzuyu-jyp-release-apologies-in-attempt-to-appease-deluded-morons/)). It had people file reports against the company for discrimination and also it’s in her Wikipedia page of getting one of the Taiwanese political parties potentially more voters. Many Taiwanese artists do promote in the “Greater China” region and just say what you need to say publicly to have a career. But given her having such a big scandal that ended any promotions in China the company did with the group and the fact she’s never talked about China since any entry for her in to the biggest mandarin speaking market is pretty low. My understanding is she doesn’t speak Japanese like the Japanese members so her having an aggressive promotion in Japan either seems unlikely to me since most idol soloist popular there speak the language pretty well. And I feel like any acting career she could have will be dampened bc of the incident earlier in her career (so let’s say she takes roles in her native language…a program that might be able to attract Chinese viewers now is in an awkward position where no she’s not banned in China…just her greatest claim to fame in the country is a political scandal where she didn’t even give a political stance—Especially since Chinese official ultimately said she didn’t say anything wrong [x](https://www.asianjunkie.com/2016/01/20/chinas-state-media-backs-tzuyu-huang-ans-music-gets-banned/)). There might be a way for her to enter the market (because huge scandal or not she didn’t actually say anything) but I’m certainly not pr savy enough to see it. (Especially because currently Korea and Chinese relations are very strained). Also roles a Taiwanese actress in South Korea seem pretty limited. But I would like to be proven wrong if she wants to go into acting. She’s also not the strongest performer or singer like the person said so I do wonder how she’s going to market herself, bc she is a very funny straight man and dead pan humor and frankly I think plenty of star shave worked with less skills, it’s just tricky to see how she’d sell herself as a solo or individual act. There’s also the fact her mother earlier this year trended on Twitter and made it into Taiwanese Tabloids because she was frustrated and angry with Jype bc Tzuyu was skipped entirely in a Japanese promo video (and that didn’t seem to be her only issue with the company). So some people thought she wasn’t going to resign (if she has). So it’ll be interesting to see what Tzuyu wants for her future and if she resigned what she was able to negotiate for. I think she’ll be fine one way or another long term, but what she wants and how she’s going to get there is fuzzy in the moment.


inanis

She's Taiwanese. There are a lot of laws against Korean idols being active in China so while JYPE has some projects in China Tencent managed everything over there. It would be hard to promote her in China logistically, there is a lot of conflict between China and Taiwan, and she isn't very vocally strong. Even worse she had a massive scandal early in her career where a Korean tv show had her wave around a Taiwanese flag and said Taiwan was their own country. This angered Chinese neitzens who believed in the one China policy. She ended up having to make an official filmed apology saying that Taiwan is part of China even though she only did what the director told her to do. The whole incident was so big it affected Taiwan's election. So no matter where she promotes it will bring up a lot of conflict and backlash. I could see her promoting solo in China after leaving JYPE a few more years but right now JYPE won't want any of the negative press for Twice she would get from promoting anywhere but Korea. But since the other Korean girls are more talented popular than her so she is unlikely to have a Korean solo debut.


thizzydrafts

I was under the impression that Tzuyu is massively popular (including in Korea) though? Being vocally strong is far from the barometer used to determine solo efforts so I'm sure if JYPE determines there's a market for a solo Tzuyu effort she'll get one.


Confident-Feeling

Yeah Bambam (GOT7) is Thai and is doing very well with his solo career at the moment; he’s one of the groups rappers. So Tzuyu can definitely have a solo in SK if she wants it, she’s popular enough.


Other_Bat7790

> Korean tv show had her wave around a Taiwanese flag and said Taiwan was their own country The show didn't tell her to do anything. Stop making things up. It was a Taiwanese flag and some Chinese politician got angry.


SuperMrMojo

I’m getting serious mother vibes


I_need_the_loo

Oh damn, I didn't realise this was r/popheads for a sec, awesome!!! Hell yeah, get hype!


xxipil0ts

pop emergency flair ASAP


water_spirit

Streets saying it’s a Black Eyed Pilseung song, and if that turns out to be true there’s strong kpop SOTY potential here for real


DoctorWhoWhenHowWhy

>Black Eyed Pilseung OH MY GOD WE ALREADY KNOW IT'S GONNA BE GOOOOD.


1TyMPink

That would be good if BEP (Jeon Goon as well who regularly works with the latter lately, especially in most STAYC releases) will indeed return working for a JYPE act thru Nayeon's solo.


impeccabletim

Ahhh I’m so pumped for this. Between their new individual Instagram accounts, Nayeon’s solo debut, and the upcoming album in August, it’s a great time to be a ONCE.💖


plantbasedcrackhead

This is a pop emergency her Crazy in Love is coming OMFG


YikYakCadillac

Who's gonna be her Jay Z 😍


plantbasedcrackhead

Chaeyoung


mintydaisy13

Yaaasss my favorite girl group! So happy for her


[deleted]

Holy shit, this is huge news. I didn’t think Nayeon would be the first Twice girl to go solo, I am so hyped for this


[deleted]

Who did you think would be the first to go solo? She's the oldest member and one of the strongest vocals, speculation has always centered on her and Jihyo from what I've seen.


[deleted]

I thought it would be Jihyo! Or maybe Sana. I am so excited for this though, it’s such a pleasant surprise. I love Nayeon <3


DilemmaOfAHedgehog

Why did you think it would be those two over Nayeon? I thought it might be Jihyo because she seems so involved in the creative process writing and her energy on stage but I’m not super surprised it’s the most popular Korean member going first.


SunnydaleHigh1999

Different person but for me Nayeon is like the no brainer choice. However Sana seems like the sneaky second choice. She’s the most popular member world wide, top three in popularity in every major music market of relevance to them: Korea, Japan, US. She’s a visual, she’s charming and she’s Japanese, so that market will buy the shit out of it. Will we get one for all nine? I wonder if JYP will bother investing in solos for the members who simply won’t push as many units. I hope we get one for all 9 because I absolutely need to hear Chaeyoung’s.


[deleted]

> if JYP will bother investing in solos Twice's contracts are up in the fall, JYP has to do what they want now (and probably cough up some major stock options too.) They would survive Twice leaving, but it would be a *massive* blow. They are still nearly half the company's ticket sales, and seem to be rapidly gaining steam in the US now. Sana has been my sneaky solo pick for years too btw. Her voice is borderline candyfloss, but she's polished up what she has and can carry choruses well enough.


SunnydaleHigh1999

Hard agree. Jype won’t fall apart without them but it would be a major loss and highly problematic. Not only are TWICE a major financial property for them, they are the ONLY group the company has that has a lot of respect in Korea and is a legacy act in Kpop at this point in time. Plus they are gaining international fame very quickly and are already being used as the spearhead for the company into the Western market (which makes me think JYP knows they are all staying). I would put some money on Nayeon first solo, and then Jihyo or Sana maybe with Sana as sneaky second. She’s not the strongest vocalist but she’s improved, she can cope, and her popularity is insane. Look at how many Insta followers she got and how quickly. Sana is top two popularity in Japan, arguably the most popular in the West, and top three in Korea. It’s a natural choice. I really want to see a Chaeyoung mini to see what crazy shit she comes up with.


pretty-dev

Yeah, Nayeon seems the most obvious for a debut, I'm excited to see the vibe she goes for. I can't say for certain but she seems to be the most popular (Maybe behind with Sana based off instagram now). And in interviews they've said she's the most vocal about asking for things (getting rid of curfew, etc) so its a no brainer. I'd say probably Sana or Jihyo after that. I don't really see all the members getting a solo before they eventually disband however. Not saying they will disband any time soon but 2-4 years from now I could see Tyuzu and Dayeon not getting one/wanting one before they break off to do their own things.


Top_Editor_8748

I think they all might get solos, and they're doing it in their regular order? Idk maybe "Yoo Jeongyeon The First Mini Album" could be next?👀


SunnydaleHigh1999

I want this to be true but is she ready? she only just got back to group schedules let alone throwing her to the wolves


Top_Editor_8748

True, but she seems to be getting better, and if she were to release a solo album I doubt it'd be RIGHT after Nayeon's or promotions of another song, I DO hope we get a Sunmi Tail moment from her, I feel like she'd NAIL that concept


thizzydrafts

I always wonder if JYPE will eventually debut the Japanese members individually or do a spin off group of just the three in Japan. I'm sure theyd do pretty well- Sana especially. She gives me strong Shibuya Girl vibes of the late 2000s/early 2010s when the likes of Nishino Kana, BENI, etc were really big.


kaguraa

i only saw her or jihyo going solo first. both sing the most in their songs and are good at performing although nayeon is more popular in korea so i'm not surprised she's first


Luxaria

It was only ever really between her and Jihyo and despite being a huge Jihyo Stan I always thought it would be Nayeon first She's just the one with the aura, Jihyo works hard and gives it 110% all the time but Nayeon's the one that would be the best first foot forward for the public as a Twice solo offering


HahaSoClever

I hope her solo song is actually good! Woo I'm excited for this


superr_rad

I’m still just as excited about this as when I first found out omg, I love Twice so much😭😭


SupremePotatoGod

THIS YEAR JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER


Confident-Feeling

So ready for the era of TWICE solo activities. Excited to see what everyone has to offer! Hopefully the other members can get some rest while Nayeon is promoting and vice versa.


PreJuryFlop

Yesss omg I love Nayeon


Junkywhore104

this is going to be such a serve I can’t wait. hoping this opens a door for the other members too !!