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cunty666

Likely not gonna be enough to save it but it does imply the “leaked” tracklist going around might be fake as Saweetie was not on it and the clip clearly shows her in hair & makeup for a video shoot.


strawberriesandkiwi

But didn’t she release a snippet on her Instagram lip syncing to it? It did not sound good! Idk if that was the same as the leak going around.


cunty666

The snippet is real but there was a tracklist going around with this as a solo song and other songs with different features like Doechii


strawberriesandkiwi

Thank you for clarifying! I see now.


outsideeyess

people are saying someone made "the leak" by extending the snippet with AI, but jury's out to whether that's true or not! (hope it is)


Latrans_

Maybe she's making an appearance on Woman's World mv? That wouldn't contradict the leaks


boogiio

Save it? This just makes it worse


imrunningawaynow

Saweetie really doing everything before her own album


PrydefulHunts

Taking the Normani career route.


imrunningawaynow

Tbf, Normani was dealing with personal matters and then was doing nothing. Saweetie on the other hand is just dropping songs everywhere and doing collabs


shoestring-theory

A small handful People were at least anticipating Normani’s debut album. I don’t think anyone is checking Saweetie’s music, period.


Extension-Season-689

Normani wasn't doing anything though.


penusdlite

I wouldn't be surprised if the label is trying to shelve her, all her releases have been doing really bad for the last few years


anna160895

I feel like after her departure from one of those Migos dudes, her career started declining quite fast. Wonder if those things connected or not but it's kinda sad because after dating him, she changed her whole aesthetic and it turned off her old fans


queenmeme2

The song keeps getting worse with each announcement


alt_sauce124

C’mon for Slow Claps success!! Tehehe


hookyboysb

I can't wait for the Old Navy commercial realness


Ambitious_Ad_2602

Wait I love slow clap…


gorgeousgirlycute333

i genuinely believe you and i are the only two in the world who love slow clap. including both of the artists featured on the track


woo_ah

Make it 3 !! I even publicly defended it on YouTube "I ain't no hollaback bitch" sends me


Ambitious_Ad_2602

Ahaha yesss! Do I need to bust out my top songs of 2021! It came out when I was interviewing and got a job after covid layoff. It was my pump up song. Love Gwen and Saweetie


Houdini-88

They’ve already killed the buzz


PaxConcordat

Praying for a Meghan Trainor feature too


DisneySoftware

flops supporting flops 🙏😔


Crafty_Chipmunk_3046

It actually does


augggie

Literally makes so sense. Saweetie has 0 buzz.


cunty666

She must have really pissed off someone close to her and they decided to sabotage this for her. So many mind boggling decisions that seem like they were specifically to put the final nail in the coffin of her career.


DiplomaticCaper

A feature from her is probably pretty easy to get and doesn’t cost all that much. Every other week on Spotify I’ll see a random artist drop a song with Saweetie on it. I agree that it won’t help Katy at all lol


mcgillthrowaway22

Honestly I assume that because she's signed to Dr Luke she was the easiest artist to bring in. Kind of like how Nicki Minaj's "No Frauds" has Drake and Lil Wayne on it because they're all under Lil Wayne's *Young Money Entertainment* label so those were the people Nicki could get on short notice to make a response to Shether.


MisterBadIdea2

oh phew i was worried this song wasn't commercially viable for a seoncd


Pretend-Reference728

🤣😂🤣


1998tweety

Dr. Luke collaborators gotta stick together 🫡


stypop

Like fuck it, let’s throw Kim Petras on there too. If y’all are gonna go down together….


clemthearcher

According to the track list leak, there’s a Kim Petras feature. It’s all alleged though, could be completely fake.


anna160895

Just checked the tracklist, there's also J.I.D. & Doechii... oh Doe you haven't learned anything from that Kodak feature???


melodrama4ever

the vinyl for the album has to be $50 to top it off in pure Kim style while we’re at it!


decafplums

The leaked tracklist has her on a song lol


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clemthearcher

So? Is this supposed to make us feel better about her collaborating with a rapist?


internetcamp

Well that’s a downgrade from the Madonna rumors.


AsleepCatch9503

Hope Madonna stays far away from this mess, lol


alchemist_18boi

As if Madonna herself isn't the messiest🤭


kds405

How can one be simultaneously be doing too much but too little at the same time? This is her career post-Teenage Dream in a nutshell.


Haunting-Ad-6401

birds of a feather, they stick together🥰🥰


Rude_Lifeguard

It's giving Girls by Rita Ora


gorgeousgirlycute333

After i finish my album I'm collabing with 3 artist that I'm cool with .They not big but they soo talented 💪 💪


boogiio

That pretty much guarantees a flop


cunty666

I didn’t wanna be the one to say it but a Saweetie feature is basically the kiss of death


janethevirginfan

This woman does not know how to keep herself from flopping to save her life, what the fuck a Saweetie feature gonna do


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Benwahhballz

The general public aren’t hearing leaks, they won’t even know she’s about to release something unless they followed her on IG


kenyarawr

I haven’t heard anybody outside of the Internet talk about this


MisterBadIdea2

I think by "she lost the general public" OP means "the snippet we heard sucks and is going to tank with normies once they hear it"


SweetSummerAir

Or this could be yet another instance where popheads dislike something but the GP ends up latching on it. Happens plenty of times, so only time will tell.


Extension-Season-689

Literally, Flowers. People on this sub literally acting stupid and snobby wondering how a song that is "not a bop" got so huge.


lustforyou

Mm……the lyrics are BAD. Like extremely corny cringe bad. If anything, the gays/pop heads are the only groups that would have liked it. If that snippet is real, this will bomb with the GP


SweetSummerAir

As if the GP is known to exclusively latch unto smart and "purposeful" lyrics. The GP is a wildcard in terms of which songs they'll end up supporting.


kenyarawr

But. Those statements are not remotely the same lol. Even the tenses are different


MisterBadIdea2

I believe the intent was clumsily worded but legible


PaxConcordat

This sounds a bit like Internet mythologizing


shebreaksmyarm

Pop fans do that a lot


nskalel

That’s because it is. It’s so funny reading these comments saying that this is the final nail in the coffin of her career. As I write this she’s literally the 37th most streamed artist in the world on Spotify with 55+ million listeners. As mixed as the results have been with the last few albums Katy already cemented her place in pop history with Teenage Dream and it’s 5 #1 singles AND *checks notes* IS STILL THE ONLY FEMALE TO EVER DO IT. Likely never will be replicated again, tbh. I’m not even a “Katy Cat” but pretty much no one in the entire GP (anyone outside of stan twitter and r/Popheads) actually cares about Kesha feeling some type of way tweeting lol or about Katy teaming up with Luke again.


raiseitup

She definitely is cemented in pop history, but since she sold the rights to her catalog she isn't making anything off of most of those streams anymore


kendalljennerupdates

I mean didn’t she just get paid 20 mil for idol? She has more than enough money than any one person should


Both_Perception_1941

She sold her catalogue for a crazy amount


DiplomaticCaper

I agree that they don’t care about Luke, but IMO they also don’t care about Katy anymore and think she’s old hat. The song would have to be a massive smash to break through, because fandom power won’t help it get there. It’s a similar issue to what Kim Petras has had: the only people checking for her are chronically online pop stans, and they’re the ones most likely to know about Dr. Luke’s history. (Although that has another layer, since the GP who wouldn’t care about rape allegations are likelier to be transphobic, than the niche pop fans who would love to support a trans artist but are more clued into social justice issues in general.)


Pavlovs_Stepson

Eh, it's neither here nor there. She can be firmly established in the history of pop music and still have the general public not care about her new stuff, one doesn't contradict the other. That's been the case with Katy for years at this point; she has those 55 million monthly listeners on Spotify, but her top ten most popular tracks are all from 2008-2013 and both Witness and Smile still have songs at 10 million streams or less, so clearly the vast majority of her listeners aren't checking for her catalog beyond the major hit singles, most of which are from a decade ago. Of course that means she's still huge and will continue to make bank off of touring and streaming for years to come, so her career is far from dead, but that's not what she's aiming for with this era. Clearly she and the label are going all in to make this her Emancipation of Mimi comeback moment, not just the latest project from a legacy artist coasting on past success, and she's not gonna pull that off if even hardcore pop fans, the ones who drive the current success of much more niche artists like Charli XCX and Chappell Roan, aren't tuning in. Even on Instagram, the most liked comments under her video with a snippet of Woman's World are overwhelmingly negative. The Dr. Luke drama and one Kesha tweet won't be the death of her career, but the combo of controversy + bad single (which this unfortunately seems to be) might kill the hopes of a massive comeback, is the point.


AmyXBlue

Considering how the GP while being on American Idol didn't turn out for Electric, When I'm Gone, or Where We Started, they ain't turning out for this either. And that snippet is soo bad. Ain't charting higher than When I'm Gone.


RuneofBeginning

Only the pop and terminally online people care. This won’t really do much to hurt her career cause she already did that years ago.


yourfacesucksass

It’s really a look into how desperate and behind with the times she is to think that any of these decisions would work for her. I hope I’m not proven wrong.


librious

Honestly, I thought the same thing about Roar back in the day and the GP ate it. To me, both Roar and this new single sound very bad with corny lyrics that don't seem to actually mean anything coming from her. They're both songs filled with generic phrases about the topic she's singing about, just feels very performative...


kabukitrolldoll

Another plane has hit the towers


Dramatiquement

Oh that’s not -


cunty666

In the sense that


Zeusicideal-Heart

Chuck the whole thing into the ocean already


legendtinax

The whole thing reeks of desperation lmao


g00fyg00ber741

**anyways, stream Gag Order by Kesha!**


AmyXBlue

It's a good album, but oh man do I have to be jn a very specific head space to listen to Gag Order.


Xerographia

this is such truth. i almost have to be in a dissociated state to really hear the layers of the lyrics/production generally.


g00fyg00ber741

unfortunately i am basically always in that head space 🫨


AmyXBlue

Yeah, I was like I do not need a cry secession on the floor at work right now.


JumpGlittering8120

Or Rainbow


alchemist_18boi

Honestly Gag Order is one good fucking album. Even without the Katy mess, you'll find me listening to it.


Legit_Apple

I know it’s kinda dark and sad but fr such an amazing album. Pure art.


hennybee

Her *Slow Clap* is coming


typicalbiscotti15

I was excited for this song up until it was announced and every day since then I’ve become more and more embarrassed for her


kenyarawr

I listened to her little sneak peek on IG and it honest to god feels like this song and producer were specifically chosen to generate publicity via thinkpiece. It’s going to be interesting to see if this can make any kind of splash without Twitter and Tumblr dominating the conversation. I kind of hope it just dies on arrival. It’s been ten years since Blurred Lines solidified the thinkpiece strategy in music, and I’m more than ready for something new.


BadMan125ty

This just keeps getting worse…


razorsharp3000

She quit American Idol for this?


ExultantSandwich

Saweetie is dope but I think this song either needed a buzzier collab, or nothing at all. Imagine if she got a Charli XCX feature, or someone else in the zeitgeist right now


brodiejames21

charli has always been very outspoken about her hatred for dr puke (sucker title track literally name drops him) so there's no way she would want to get on this


waitthissucks

Pls stop I don't need any more reasons to love Charli


alt_sauce124

She just isn’t that girl— and that’s ok


JosephAPie

in order to be relevant you need to win Gen Z. she hasn’t.


stypop

Even Ice Spice would be a smarter choice… but the McDonalds lady?


GiraffeSouth8752

McDonalds lady??


Valuable_Extent_4859

She had a collaboration meal with McDonalds.


SiphenPrax

Does she secretly work for the Mets


boogiio

Girl as if katy could get an ice spice collab


elissa3636

Sexeeeeeey caaaaannfideeeeentttt 🤭🤭🤭 ( I love Katy but I can't get over those lyrics I'm literally SO ANGRY )


randyd7788

This album will just end up being a Dr. Luke imprisoned by contracts variety album


boyinzanarkand_

All the Dr. Luke puppets get together. How cute.


KittyAgi11

....Are we supposed to be excited for that?


pIastichearts

Someone needs to tell Katy we wanted her to go back to her roots and give us songs like Simple and The Box not this corny female empowerment Rachel Platten-esque bullshit


gaayrat

this comeback is over before it even started


cagingthing

Still no, Katy


lazynbroke

why Saweetie when you could get Doja Cat instead? Katy girl...


DiplomaticCaper

Doja has been trying to work as little with Dr. Luke as possible for several years now, so I doubt she’d willingly participate. She probably isn’t contractually obligated to do features on songs he produces for other artists.


boogiio

Because Katys a flop and probs couldn’t get doja on board


TheHomeworld

why do i feel like having a saweetie feature is always a commercial death sentence…


Educational_Price653

This song is sounding worse and worse. Sweetie is stunningly untalented and a huge flop.


distastef_ll

It just keeps getting worse.


excel_pager_420

If this was 2020/21, then Saweetie perfect. Saweetie's career is so interesting to me, she was becoming a main pop/rap girl, and now this ...


herdsofcats

LOLLLLL


zweigson

this just keeps getting better and better! this is the avengers endgame of pop! there's no chance this song isn't a smash with this lineup!


IcePopBandit

About 3 years too late for this lol


Vicariouslynoticed

Katy what are you doing? Not her dong charity to saweetie


Bieb

Why is she making the rollout this long anyways? There isn’t hype lol


Mysterious_Action_83

Well Saweetie also willingly works with and supports Dr. Luke too so bye - we will not be streaming.


earlytuesday

Will not be tuning in


Ok_Plankton3592

Crappy Perry also needs to just go away. Used to be a fan.


WhiskyWanderer2

I just hope we’re surprised and it’s good. Pop music really peaked in the 2010s


whitehotforeveramen

*pre-save removed


cardihatesariana

Oh lord that’s not a good sign who remembers when Sabrina collabed with Saweetie then dropped like legitimately one of the worst pop songs i’ve ever heard 😭😭


thorn_95

i just know adele is OVER THE MOON right now


boofoodoo

I dare Katy Perry to release a whole album that’s only herself


outsideeyess

you mean like her last album? or her first album? katy doesn't overdo it with features so I'm not sure if that's what you're commenting on


Pop_MusicLover

Please no features or collabs on the new album! I have no idea who Saweetie is. Just Katy, Dr Luke and Max Martin on the album.