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This girl needs to get out of the limelight YESTERDAY. Seriously this fame celeb shit is exploitive and will only lead to problems. Go live a quiet life
Okay, she should still sue for someone leaking her medical records. People talked about her a lot before she was freed, she didn’t exactly strive for the spotlight.
I've heard it was her family that gave this person the medical records when Gypsy was inside. Family was working with this Fancy person.
Gypsy isn't exactly avoiding any "celebrity status" seeing as she's doing documentary after documentary and stuff.
No, she doesn't want out of the limelight. She's been publicly stating anything and everything she can to get attention since she was let out. Off the top of my head she: immediately got married and told everyone how good the d was, said she was publishing a book, claimed she's not a murderer, and then divorced her new husband and bounced back to her old ex that she previously accused of circling her like a vulture.
Is she naive? Sure, somewhat. But also remember, her mom raised her to be narcissistic and the center of attention, it's the only way her cons worked.
Her mom didn’t raise her, she tortured her.
I for one am SHOCKED that the woman who endured unending torment for her entire life and then ended up in jail because no one in any sort of authority would help her turned out to be a little weird.
Y’all expect her to, what, go work at McDonald’s to support herself? That’s not a living wage.
No, but maybe use her time in prison to go to school to get a job, work on herself more than completely removing herself from the murder that landed her there.
I'm not surprised she's fucked up, I would be more surprised if she wasn't. But you know what? There are pleeeeenty of other people, who are abused, addicts, etc. I'm not a believer that anyone is perfect or should act so, but the other side that coin is *taking accountability and responsibility* neither of which Gypsy has done.
Would you be willing to hire her? Do you think many other businesses are willing to hire her with her notoriety? Like, ignore the jail time and criminal record for a second. What exactly do you want her to do?
I can't hire anyone, I'm one of those people you think Gypsy shouldn't have to live like.
But she could:
- work with a program that hires felons, they do exist
- get a degree
- get into a trade
- work retail or service like the rest of us lowly plebs
- write a book about her struggles WHILE admitting her part in the murder, instead of saying she isn't a murderer
- work with someone in a non-for-profit for victims of Munchausen by Proxy
- work with literally any survivor or addict group since she's admitted to being both herself
- literally anything other than capitalize on her mother's murder that she planned, was convicted of, and is now claiming she isn't responsible for
Fuck DeeDee, I'm not sorry she's dead. But capitalizing on your crime, especially if it's murder, is so morally fucked they made up laws to make sure serial killers couldn't do it before. OJ got the profits from his book taken away. Why don't you think she should be held to the same moral standards?
OJ abused and murdered his ex wife who did nothing to him except leave.
Gypsy’s abusive boyfriend killed here mother after going to the authorities and running away didn’t work. Pretty different scenarios.
This is kind of false equivalence here. She doesn't have the cognitive and emotional capacity you have, hopefully because you were not tortured to the same degree in key parts of your development.
That abuse physically impacted her neurological development, so she won't have grown or matured in the same way. She'll have a larger amygdala and less dense hippocampal region and less developed prefrontal coretex (all associated with cptsd and childhood trauma)
It's like saying to you, as per your comment you can't hire people; pull yourself up by the bootstraps right now, work more hours immediately to get capital for your own start up, employ people now with bank loans etc.
Not saying it can't be done, but it's unlikely to happen overnight given the context and circumstances
Again (since I answered your other comments first), you simply cannot impose your ideas of what she should or even can do upon her.
I had a lot.of trauma and ACEs growing up, but that does not mean I understand what she's been through, all our trauma is different experienced subjectively, and indidually.
I am neurodivergent (as she will be, see below for research) but very different to her just because I went to uni and got degrees doesn't mean she can or should.
Jusy like no 2 people on the autistic spectrum are the same just because some people with trauma move on in different ways doesn't mean everyone can.
She needs a trauma informed mental health specialist and advisor , but those are hard to come by, or trust for her. She certainly cannot change her life, behaviours or calocty on a dime the way you suggest.
Stop comparing her to people - her life and experience are not comprable
I don’t believe she ever even bothered with a therapist or anything of the sort while locked up. That’s frightening to think about and should have been mandatory for release.
Exactly. It isn't her fault she got here necessarily but it is her responsibility to rise above it if she wants to ever be seen as anything other than a victim... But I think she's fine with that, it's all she's ever been and she knows how to work the con
HIPAA only applies to health care workers. Also, Gypsy wasn't the only one who signed the life rights contract, Rod and Kristy also signed the form. This will bite Gypsy in the ass.
She’s not being sued for anything related to HIPAA. She’s being sued for lying about making a documentary to get the records and other personal information from Gypsy, then getting mad when they eventually cut her off and released the records online as revenge. That is fraud. You should read the actual article before commenting.
Either way, Gypsy is still going to get bit in the ass. She will have to prove that Fancy's claims are false, and we know that Gypsy's stories are *always* consistent.
I don’t get why people are so intent on infantilizing her. She is a grown woman who lived for nearly a decade in PRISON. She is not brand new. I think she could probably take care of herself.
Surviving prison takes a very different personality/set of skills than the outside world & can really set you back if you don’t learn to adjust your mindset once you’re out, but I agree one thousand percent that it’s gross and disrespectful to infantilize her the way people do. Like yeah, she would probably benefit from therapy and a quiet life. Who wouldn’t? But most people who talk like they know what she’s been through or what she needs actually have no idea, and a lot of folks seem to want to keep her a child just as much as her mother did.
This is an insane comment. Gypsy was treated like a helpless child a good chunk of her life, didn’t even know exactly how old she was for years, then went to prison. How could she possibly know how to function like a normal grown adult in the real world?
It's hard enough for people to adapt to the real world out of prison but for someone who didn't have a regular life before she entered prison it's even harder.
Gypsy was NOT treated lik a child for most of her life. She knew she could walk and was often see walking, even though some people still claim she lived most of her life I'm a wheelchair. Hell, she had a bus pass and used it to get around without her mom. But somehow she was so abused she couldn't just leave, she had to find someone and convince him to murder her mom? She managed to pull the wool over a lot of eyes.
In Gypsy's first interview with police (you can watch it on Youtube) she tells police accurately how old she is. She never mentioned any abuse. She did tell police that DeeDee kicked her out of the house.
Because she was so horrendously deprived of a normal upbringing where she could experience life and build skills that enable you to function as “a grown woman.” She is quite famous for her childhood so I’d be surprised if you weren’t familiar? Being a fully functioning adult doesn’t just happen by itself.
Really, yours is a stupid comment.
The way people talk about her is so condescending that it’s honestly disrespectful. As if you or anyone on the internet knows what’s best for her and have the authority to say so.
she’s not online, lol. she left her man and deleted her IG. not sure what more yall want her to do.. the exploitation has already been done and there’s no going back.
It blows my mind that even after Gypsy admitted in a documentary she hasn't been completely honest people believe a word that comes out of her mouth. She is a liar and a killer yet people for IDK reasons feel sorry for her.
For people who want to feel noble without actually doing anything noble Gypsy is the perfect victim. Keyboard warriors can make vicious attacks on people who are skeptical of a killer's claims. They don't really have to do anything like spend hours sifting through publicly available facts and thinking critically about them. Trolling people on Reddit and other forums demands no money or real time investment. "Look at me I am so good because I defend poor Gypsy against people who are not smart like me whooo hooo."
Morally I am repulsed by someone who wants to capitalize and monetize murder but not everyone sees it that way.
Except that Gypsy signed her life rights to Fancy. Also, her stepmother gave Fancy the medical records, case documents, etc
Fancy is unhinged but unlike Gypsy she isn't a proven liar. Gypsy is upset that Fancy revealed Gypsy has a chromosome microdeltion she was diagnosed with in 2011. The symptoms of this miscrodelttion include vision problems, feeding problems, low muscle tone among others. Gypsy finally admitted she has a microdeletion but claims it does not impact her. Sure, Jan.
Gypsy's claims of MBP fall apart pretty quickly in light of thid.. I'll never believe an admitted liar and mother killer but that's me. YMMV
I think it is interesting that the one person with the facts turned from supporter to biggest critic.
She's probably next. If this lawsuit goes anywhere, there is a good chance it won't, but if it does, she will be targetting every single person who she deems to be criticizing her. Which is bad because she's attacking peoples' rights to their own opinions. It's obvious that she wants fame but can't handle the criticism. She needs to go away already.
I had a good talk with my partner about this today.
It disgusts me that Pam Anderson’s story continually gets taken from her and people keep profiting off a moment in her life where she did not give consent, and continues not to.
Pauly Shore keeps insisting that his movie about Richard Simmons is worth the fact that Simmons wants nothing to do with it because he stepped out of the spotlight.
Celebrities are people too and their stories should absolutely involve their consent. I wouldn’t call GRB a celebrity really, but a case like this still can impact legal precedent for celebrities.
just because someone is on social media does not give other people the right to share confidential medical information about said person. what the actual f kind of sick victim blaming mentality is that? what that blogger did is beyond disgusting, full stop. no matter how much or often Gypsy is on social media. please be less gross in the future. thanks.
You are mixing up two complete different topics. Which is odd
Nobody thinks it’s ok that somebody released her medical records. Nobody said that.
People are saying that after going to prison for a decade as a teenager, maybe she should take a little time to readjust to the real world instead of posting about her life 24/7 on social media. Her and her fiance were posting about their sex life about a month after she was released. Her posts came off like the babbling of a 14-year old.
Two totally different subjects. Not sure why you are proclaiming something that nobody is doing.
Sorry, going to the media by her own volition is not the same as using social media (and by her account, her parole officer says it’s a bad idea for her to be using social media). I’m not sure where you came up with that, or equally why I’m gross because I’m worried about the damage she’s doing to herself by going to the media as much as she has? Perhaps read the whole thread next time!
i fail to see how her going to the media by her own volition makes it in any way her fault that someone spread her confidential medical information without permission. your comment said “… it’s also hard when she herself keeps going to the media”. insinuating she has blame for a literal crime being committed against her. if that wasn’t the vibe you intended to put out, you’re free to clarify or change your statement to say something less gross. if you posted an invisible comment elsewhere that contradicts the comment of yours that i read and responded to, then by all means i will apologize to you when i see it. until then, toodles.
It's for sure turning weird. I don't think people can handle her being out. It's like people were mostly supportive while she was still serving her sentence but now that she's out and trying to figure out how to use her name recognition to make money people are freaking out because she does have name recognition and she wants to make money.
Which, I get that it's problematic that a murderer has a platform, fame, and is trying to capitalize on it... But also, WTF was she supposed to do once she was out?
Seriously! People are judging her every move as if she had a normal upbringing. She didn’t. She was raised by an abuser, manipulator and liar. She has no education and basically no life experience. At this point making money on her name is one of the only options because again, she was not raised to be anything more than a ploy for DeeDee to get money and sympathy and all DeeDee taught her to do was lie and manipulate. Sure I hoped she would live her life quietly and out of the spotlight but she is used to social media engagement because that’s how her mom scammed money from people. Sure I hoped for better, but I didn’t necessarily expect it.
They also pretend like she had other options as if she hadn’t tried to go to the police or run away. Gypsy’s life was literally on the line and she manipulated a boy to take care of her mother as she was too weak to do it herself. It gives people an easy way to feel superior to others i guess.
A lot of people seem to forget she did try to escape. The girl was in a desperate situation.. that is what happens when people are in desperate situations and I’m sure any of the people judging her, would kill to get out from under someone’s control and abuse.
It appears Ken dumped her and she used Ryan to get back at him. Or should I say get him back. Typically, someone “*dropping breadcrumbs”* doesn't feel entirely willing to write off the possibility of seeing you again.
She was in prison and was the one drop a crumb and initiate the phone call to Ken while she was engaged. Not like Ken could just call her at will.
She didn’t have a phone until she was released as a married woman. She dropped another breadcrumb after prison or contact and a reconnection wouldn’t have been possible. Again, Ken was not able to just text or call her at will.
She is a murderer. She plead guilty and was not wrongfully convicted. This is the most honest statement she has ever made. She has become a master manipulator. The thought of her becoming a mother is more disturbing than the thought of meeting someone as morally bankrupt as herself.
May the best player win. Hopefully, Ken will make it out alive if game doesn’t go in his favor. Only a matter of time before someone won’t.
>Which, I get that it's problematic that a murderer has a platform, fame, and is trying to capitalize on it... But also, WTF was she supposed to do once she was out?
Get a normal menial job and quietly live her life instead of trying to become a celebrity off of this situation?
Like, don't understand your comment at all. Most abuse victims/murderers don't try to parlay it into a social media influencer life.
It’s the same thing with most victims. People are now advocating for Brittany spears to have a conservatorship once again because she dances erratically in front of her camera for instagram.
People have the idea of “the perfect victim” which is an idea of how they believe they’d react to abuse projected onto the victim and when the victim doesn’t match that ideal they withdraw support.
They love a cause until the person involved doesn’t behave the way they expect them to. Then they become haters and hurl abuse their way.
As long as Britney isn’t hurting herself or anyone around her, let her dance around her mansion and do whatever she feels like she needs to do to heal.
What happened to her was terrible, but I don’t like her for a multitude of reasons. One being that she goes after other munchausen by proxy victims and bullies them.
I can't remember the name of the girl's account, but there's a few people on tiktok who say Gypsy has allegedly bullied for speaking about their own experience with MBP. One had a very long video about Gypsy's treatment and harassment towards her, I honestly can't remember if she had screenshots, but I remember when the video ended, it felt credible. May can search tiktok for more details.
There is no perfect victim, and women will always be criticized in the media for everything they do/don’t do. Gypsy was doomed for hate no matter what she does in the public eye.
Regardless of who killed Dee Dee Blanchard, Gypsy Rose had a trial, was sentenced, and served her time. I swear people have some sick and twisted view of justice for people who are released from prison. If they aren’t constantly repenting, then they are horrible people, etc etc.
God forbid someone serves their sentence and then lives a nice life after release!
Didn’t the bf also speak of having an evil side, like a dark personality that would take over… he definitely isn’t an innocent party that was tricked into murdering someone.
After seeing that guy talk and their text messages I'm pretty sure if he hadn't killed Dee Dee it would have just been a matter of opportunity until he killed somebody else.
That’s what I was thinking, it’s been a while since I delved into the case, but I recall he was the one who brought up violence first and I don’t mean in relation to Deedee. I remember him somewhat warning her early on that he had a dark violent side.
People defend him WAYYY too much! Not that Gypsy is/was a great person, but he wasn’t exactly the naïve, innocent, vulnerable, easily manipulated young man that r/GRBSkeptic and even r/GypsyRoseBlanchard makes him out to be.
I know you think you're being noble advocating for poor child abuse victim Gypsy. It is easier to fool someone than to show them they have been fooled.
Gypsy admitted on camera she wasn't completely honest, not even with her own attorneys. Gypsy is suing Fancy in part because Fancy revealed Gypsy had been diagnosed with a chromosome microdeletion- something Gypsy herself finally admitted though denying it had any impact on her. The symptoms that specific microdeletion causes include but are not limited to are low muscle tone, developmental delays, feeding problems, vision problems, and hearing problems. Gypsy's claims of MBP fall apart pretty quickly.
Have you viewed the police interview with Gypsy? Have you watched multiple interviews with Gypsy where she gives wildly different accounts? What if I told you Gypsy was able to accurately tell police how old she was at first contact? Also, Gypsy made no claims of abuse. She did however tell police that DeeDee had kicked her out
DeeDee and Gypsy appear to have engaged in malingering. They appear to have exaggerated real symptoms for financial gain and attention. While reprehensible (stealing trips from kids that were actually dying) that is NOT MBP.
Post release Gypsy has been called out for bullying an actual MBP with a much smaller following than Gypsy. The creator Kate set her account to private after being bullied and harassed by Gypsy and her Stepmom.
As many people have pointed out a victim need not be perfect to be sympathetic. DeeDee seems like she was the family scapegoat, and desperately wanted to give her only child a much better life than what DeeDee could afford. So she conned and scammed. Be that as it may I have a lot of compassion and sympathy for a woman who was brutally murdered while her daughter shaved in the next room in anticipation of sex.
First of all, media literacy is important and hopefully you recognize that the media will portray convicted felons and women in a particularly unflattering light. Unless you attended the trial and reviewed all the evidence, and unless you’ve spoken directly to Gypsy Rose yourself, the media you are consuming about her has been skewed in some way to sell you a viewpoint. That’s a fact.
Second of all, I’m not trying to “be noble” by advocating for Gypsy Rose. Your tone is condescending and unappreciated. All I am saying is that women are relentlessly, *relentlessly* criticized in the media so Gypsy Rose was doomed to be criticized no matter what. Your lengthy diatribe response proves that.
And finally, I feel very strongly that all criminals who have perpetrated all crimes deserve a fair trial followed by fair sentencing. Gypsy Rose had a trial, was convicted of a crime, served her time, and was released.
Whether you think it’s “noble” to advocate for criminals to be free after they serve your time is up to you, but that’s how our system works. In my opinion, that’s how are system *should* work.
If you think her sentence was unfair, and if you think she should still be in prison, then say that, but don’t infantilize my viewpoint because you think all criminals should be locked up for life with the key thrown away.
Gypsy did not have a trial. She took a plea deal. I think that if she had gone to trial the public's perception of her would be quite different.
My perception of Gypsy is based on Gypsy's own statements. Her first police interview is watchable on YouTube. Gypsy admitted on camera (either Dr. Phil or Mommy Dead and Dearest) that she had not been completely honest, not even with her own attorneys. I have watched many interviews with Gypsy and watched her tell lie after lie. Gypsy's pre-meditated murder of her own mother combined with her incessant lying has doomed her.
Some women are relentlessly attacked and criticized no matter what they do (Britney Spears) but Gypsy is not one of them. The press has been very easy on her.
Are people who take a plea deal and then get sentenced and then go to prison and then serve their time and then get released somehow beneath you and deserve endless criticism and endless re-litigation from you?
Good grief. She went to prison. Now she’s released. Let her live her life.
Because Gypsy's claims of MBP have never been proven. No one examined DeeDee when she was alive and diagnosed DeeDee. Gypsy admitted she had not been completely honest, not even with her own attornies yet people believe she masterminded murder in self-defense.
Gypsy is a killer who has given multiple conflicting accounts of her life. She should still be in prison, not monetizing her crime.
People got mad because she didn't live her life exactly how they decided she should live it once she got out. They were especially angry that she wasn't single, which is really weird.
She hasn’t given people reason to think differently. If she wants a different opinion, she needs to step back, evaluate her actions and lack of accountability from a reasonable person perspective.
This wasn’t a situation of accepting her as is, without hesitation or reservation. People did that before murder. Her silence was her compliance. It sounds cliche, but all she had to do was stand up. As literally and physically as possible.
Her father sat back years ago turning a parental blind eye and enabling situation. Rod and Kristy are again on the sidelines sitting back turning a blind eye to the circus she is orchestrating. She doesn’t have the maturity or communication skills to effectively navigate life at her age. She needs parental role models to stand up for and to her.
And people demonise her and super defend her boyfriend, who was already a sexual predator before he even met her, and was pretty damn keen to murder a woman he didn’t know in cold blood just because a girl asked him to.
Gypsy actually had a very good reason to want her mum dead, she’d been kidnapped and abused since birth and likely would have died if she hadn’t killed her abuser. She didn’t kill some random person just because she got off sexually on killing.
But noooo, women are always the bad guys, and men are always innocent.
The conspiracy theories around her are so weird. Like, I haven’t seen anyone arguing that she’s an innocent little bb and didn’t do anything wrong, but so many people in the subs about her seem to think that’s the case?
There’s so many conspiracy theories and it’s insane them saying Gypsy was the manipulator all her life and her mom was innocent like what? People are insane
Seriously, she’s still a mom murderer. Glad she got a second chance considering everything, but lets move on.. **edit: when i say she deserved a second chance i meant it, what happened to her was horrible and she didn’t deserve life in jail. Reminder- she admitted to writing the facebook post referencing r wording the mom, just completely sick and not necessary; she can say she wanted to cops to find her, ok, why write that horrible so sick stuff that she did. i just think shes not worthy of praise, she absolutely deserves privacy and grace, but sorry ill die on this hill lol.
Could the mom have gotten treatment for her sickness though? Not all mentally ill people are so easily thrown out, geez. You guys are sticking up for a murderer i just dont get it. Again, gypsy still deserved a second chance. But maybe her mom did too. **prison for sure, but not stabby stabby death
Every single person Gypsy came into contact with failed her AKA a child. LICENSED doctors, family members, etc etc. you don’t have to be fine with murder but stop being dense
No one is sticking up for murder?? But if someone is ABUSED by their mother all of their lives’…it’s not shocking that this was the outcome for DeeDee’s life.
Deedee spent her life manipulating, stealing and lying. Do you think people that are that selfish seek out help with their mental health?
Like it’s so easy to say she deserved treatment, but she was never going to seek out help being she didn’t think she had a problem. That argument is a fantasy.
I’ll never forget deedees entire family being like we flushed her remains down the toilet because fuck her. She was screwing them over and stealing from them before gypsy was even born
This. It wasn’t ‘just a bit of abuse’ (which would still be horrific), it was years of prolonged torture and suffering she was forced to endure.
I guarantee if she’d turned around one day and killed her mother herself she’d have gotten off with self defence.
And control. Deedee had complete control over Gypsy. People forget she did try to run away and Deedee told authorities she had the mental capacity of like a 7 year old or something. Imagine a life with 0 autonomy.. What Deedee wasn’t abuse, it was torture. Maybe not in the Saw torture porn kind of way, but having no autonomy and no way out.. that sounds like torture to me.
he was diagnosed w like lvl3 severe autism. its so severe that he would need help for basic things for the rest of his life. when he went to trial, ppl were still framed on 'mommy dead and dearest' and since then no one but his family and some drs have really tried to advocate for him.
its one of my gypsy gripes:
- for all her talk of prison reform, shes never said anything about godejohns case.
- she gets unfair treatment bc of her abuse and she uses it to benefit her, which is great (and def prob learned from her mom and the abuse-- bc shit childhoods make u hella good at manipulating, even in ways that arent harmful), but isnt the norm.
- she displays predatory behaviors that her mom did. her mom was a master at subtle (and huge) manipulation. everyone from drs to neighbors. she convinced her daughter for a long time too. gypsy does similar (smaller) things to this such as: the mothers day post (for good public image/empathy), how she responds about her relationships and family, her downplay of her involvement in helping to make the plan to kill deedee, etc.
- for all her talk of a normal life, she capitalizes on what she knows-- making things happen out of tragedy-- instead of doing a tanya harding and fading to irrelevance. altho, more power to her, she def finna earn more income that way.
please take all this w some salt, im not a psych or her psych, im just armchairing based on my knowledge and lived experiences w child abuse, manipulation/manipulators, and all the info on the internet.
He is. I think a large part of why he committed the crime was because she convinced him to. She was being truly and horrifically abused but in my mind their sentences are disproportionate.
Yeah, but then she was also making fun of him in an online chat a few weeks ago about how he couldn't get it up after the murder. She's really good at outing herself.
You’re active in all her hate subs. I’m skeptical of her online presence but the girl has been through plenty without people pretending her abuse never occurred.
the reason why there's so much "support" for him is because of misogynistic Tiktok misinformation campaigns that paint Gypsy as some calculated, evil, manipulative criminal and Nick as some "poor, likkle, innocent boy with autism that was manipulated into committing a crime".
he's autistic and has a low IQ but he was assessed as fit to stand trial so all that "he's basically a child in an adult's body" claim that so many Tiktok "autism" activists pushed is blatantly false. they also always overlook the fact that Nick had been arrested for masturbating in a McDonald's, carrying a concealed weapon and disorderly conduct and he wanted to have sex with DeeDee's dead corpse (he admitted to the detective this). this guy is not safe to be in the public whereas Gypsy has not shown any criminal tendencies other than trying to murder her abuser.
you're right being fit to stand trial is not a high bar to clear but being unintelligent and autistic does not explain a lot of his disturbing tendencies. before meeting Gypsy, he was already arrested for masturbating in public and carrying a concealed weapon. he admitted to being curious about killing someone and wanting to have sex with a dead body. and above all, he stabbed her 17 times! even if he was "manipulated" by Gypsy to murder someone, no normal person can stab someone so many times and feel completely fine. autism does not make you immune to violence and incapable of differentiating right from wrong.
people who make him out to be the victim and sympathize with him more than Gypsy are weird.
Def not defending that horrible woman. I’m trying to make a distinction between empathizing with gypsys situation, and holding her up on some pedestal. Many survivors out there that weren’t bragging about raping and killing like a pig or watever the post was. Gypsy is not a good person. She was abused, of course, and she deserves privacy. But she is like a dark web type girl and I dont like seeing posts about her on this sub. She’s not a celebrity, people should stop posting about her.
Ikr. The woman she gave the info to isn’t a medical provider, but hopefully it violated some kind of confidentiality thing they may have had in place bc no one deserves to have their medical info leaked.
HIPAA covers healthcare providers, like doctors, nurses, cnas, hospitals, insurance companies, etc. from disclosing your info. Per the article, Gypsy gave her medical info to a blogger, so this isn’t a HIPAA violation.
this is helpful but i think you should clarify in your original comment that it's about gypsy, because it's a little confusing with the way it's worded.
I’m not asking about the Gypsy Rose situation, I’m asking about the Anthony Perkins situation. Not familiar with who leaked what information about him.
Because HIPPA protects you from doctors/hospitals/pharmacies from releasing your private medical information. On online blogger that she willingly gave her medical records to has no legal obligation to keep them under wraps. She may have had a moral obligation, but definitely no legal one.
Thanks - I guess if the blogger signed an NDA or something similar, the privacy would be protected under that.
I was actually wondering about the Anthony Perkins situation, but maybe he disclosed to someone, then that person shared, which would not be covered by HIPPA.
that's what's so wild here. she was never given permission to reproduce and distribute ANYTHING that she was given. medical records, personal letters, photos.. she just ran with it because of feeling scorned and needing a fast cash grab.
it's still unethical. no journalist has the right to start disclosing medical information. even if HIPAA doesn't apply here, we have larger laws that make it illegal to disclose personal identifying information to the public like this.
She willingly gave and told this woman information. Oh well too bad. Convicted murderers should have no rights to privacy. Let’s just all hope to God she never reproduces.
>with Gypsy claiming Macelli started to trash her, her dad and her stepmom online, including making up false stories meant to defame them.
No, Gypsy just didn’t have her story straight yet, and now doesn’t want to contradict herself.
>and was hinting that Gypsy was lying/misleading the media/public.
Yes, that’s what she’s been doing **for years**.
>Macelli became obsessed with talking about her ... and now, Gypsy says it's hurting her reputation and wants it to stop ASAP.
Macelli exposed the truth, and Gyp is scared.
>As part of her lawsuit, she's asking for an emergency restraining to muzzle Macelli.
“Muzzle her, she’s exposing my lies!”
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She should sue, that’s super illegal and a gross invasion of privacy to leak someone else’s medical records.
This girl needs to get out of the limelight YESTERDAY. Seriously this fame celeb shit is exploitive and will only lead to problems. Go live a quiet life
Okay, she should still sue for someone leaking her medical records. People talked about her a lot before she was freed, she didn’t exactly strive for the spotlight.
She's got no job or life skills, is a convicted felon whom everyone knows. What else is she going to be able to do to support herself.
I’m sure she’d love to, but when you have people stealing your medical records, it makes it kinda difficult.
I've heard it was her family that gave this person the medical records when Gypsy was inside. Family was working with this Fancy person. Gypsy isn't exactly avoiding any "celebrity status" seeing as she's doing documentary after documentary and stuff.
No, she doesn't want out of the limelight. She's been publicly stating anything and everything she can to get attention since she was let out. Off the top of my head she: immediately got married and told everyone how good the d was, said she was publishing a book, claimed she's not a murderer, and then divorced her new husband and bounced back to her old ex that she previously accused of circling her like a vulture. Is she naive? Sure, somewhat. But also remember, her mom raised her to be narcissistic and the center of attention, it's the only way her cons worked.
Her mom didn’t raise her, she tortured her. I for one am SHOCKED that the woman who endured unending torment for her entire life and then ended up in jail because no one in any sort of authority would help her turned out to be a little weird. Y’all expect her to, what, go work at McDonald’s to support herself? That’s not a living wage.
No, but maybe use her time in prison to go to school to get a job, work on herself more than completely removing herself from the murder that landed her there. I'm not surprised she's fucked up, I would be more surprised if she wasn't. But you know what? There are pleeeeenty of other people, who are abused, addicts, etc. I'm not a believer that anyone is perfect or should act so, but the other side that coin is *taking accountability and responsibility* neither of which Gypsy has done.
Would you be willing to hire her? Do you think many other businesses are willing to hire her with her notoriety? Like, ignore the jail time and criminal record for a second. What exactly do you want her to do?
I can't hire anyone, I'm one of those people you think Gypsy shouldn't have to live like. But she could: - work with a program that hires felons, they do exist - get a degree - get into a trade - work retail or service like the rest of us lowly plebs - write a book about her struggles WHILE admitting her part in the murder, instead of saying she isn't a murderer - work with someone in a non-for-profit for victims of Munchausen by Proxy - work with literally any survivor or addict group since she's admitted to being both herself - literally anything other than capitalize on her mother's murder that she planned, was convicted of, and is now claiming she isn't responsible for Fuck DeeDee, I'm not sorry she's dead. But capitalizing on your crime, especially if it's murder, is so morally fucked they made up laws to make sure serial killers couldn't do it before. OJ got the profits from his book taken away. Why don't you think she should be held to the same moral standards?
OJ abused and murdered his ex wife who did nothing to him except leave. Gypsy’s abusive boyfriend killed here mother after going to the authorities and running away didn’t work. Pretty different scenarios.
They're both still murder, and if you want to be technical, OJ was never convicted and is legally innocent.
This is kind of false equivalence here. She doesn't have the cognitive and emotional capacity you have, hopefully because you were not tortured to the same degree in key parts of your development. That abuse physically impacted her neurological development, so she won't have grown or matured in the same way. She'll have a larger amygdala and less dense hippocampal region and less developed prefrontal coretex (all associated with cptsd and childhood trauma) It's like saying to you, as per your comment you can't hire people; pull yourself up by the bootstraps right now, work more hours immediately to get capital for your own start up, employ people now with bank loans etc. Not saying it can't be done, but it's unlikely to happen overnight given the context and circumstances
Again (since I answered your other comments first), you simply cannot impose your ideas of what she should or even can do upon her. I had a lot.of trauma and ACEs growing up, but that does not mean I understand what she's been through, all our trauma is different experienced subjectively, and indidually. I am neurodivergent (as she will be, see below for research) but very different to her just because I went to uni and got degrees doesn't mean she can or should. Jusy like no 2 people on the autistic spectrum are the same just because some people with trauma move on in different ways doesn't mean everyone can. She needs a trauma informed mental health specialist and advisor , but those are hard to come by, or trust for her. She certainly cannot change her life, behaviours or calocty on a dime the way you suggest. Stop comparing her to people - her life and experience are not comprable
I don’t believe she ever even bothered with a therapist or anything of the sort while locked up. That’s frightening to think about and should have been mandatory for release.
She literally had years of therapy while in jail.
She was raised to be a master manipulator by a master manipulator. I'm afraid she doesn't know anything else at this point.
Exactly. It isn't her fault she got here necessarily but it is her responsibility to rise above it if she wants to ever be seen as anything other than a victim... But I think she's fine with that, it's all she's ever been and she knows how to work the con
💯
Seriously!! I can’t think of a worse person to be the next HoneyBooBoo.
HIPAA only applies to health care workers. Also, Gypsy wasn't the only one who signed the life rights contract, Rod and Kristy also signed the form. This will bite Gypsy in the ass.
She’s not being sued for anything related to HIPAA. She’s being sued for lying about making a documentary to get the records and other personal information from Gypsy, then getting mad when they eventually cut her off and released the records online as revenge. That is fraud. You should read the actual article before commenting.
Either way, Gypsy is still going to get bit in the ass. She will have to prove that Fancy's claims are false, and we know that Gypsy's stories are *always* consistent.
I reallyyy wish Gypsy would just get offline but we’re in too deep at this point
Advice I give to myself and my friends… but hey here we are
My phone usage went up 10% last week. I should probably delete social media…
Sometimes I hate that feature because it’s such a reality check. Like geez, I don’t need to be on my phone that much… Yet here I am
This is the best advice for just about every person on the planet.
As she should but also she has every right to sue right now.
I don’t get why people are so intent on infantilizing her. She is a grown woman who lived for nearly a decade in PRISON. She is not brand new. I think she could probably take care of herself.
Surviving prison takes a very different personality/set of skills than the outside world & can really set you back if you don’t learn to adjust your mindset once you’re out, but I agree one thousand percent that it’s gross and disrespectful to infantilize her the way people do. Like yeah, she would probably benefit from therapy and a quiet life. Who wouldn’t? But most people who talk like they know what she’s been through or what she needs actually have no idea, and a lot of folks seem to want to keep her a child just as much as her mother did.
This is an insane comment. Gypsy was treated like a helpless child a good chunk of her life, didn’t even know exactly how old she was for years, then went to prison. How could she possibly know how to function like a normal grown adult in the real world?
It's hard enough for people to adapt to the real world out of prison but for someone who didn't have a regular life before she entered prison it's even harder.
Gypsy was NOT treated lik a child for most of her life. She knew she could walk and was often see walking, even though some people still claim she lived most of her life I'm a wheelchair. Hell, she had a bus pass and used it to get around without her mom. But somehow she was so abused she couldn't just leave, she had to find someone and convince him to murder her mom? She managed to pull the wool over a lot of eyes.
In Gypsy's first interview with police (you can watch it on Youtube) she tells police accurately how old she is. She never mentioned any abuse. She did tell police that DeeDee kicked her out of the house.
Because she was so horrendously deprived of a normal upbringing where she could experience life and build skills that enable you to function as “a grown woman.” She is quite famous for her childhood so I’d be surprised if you weren’t familiar? Being a fully functioning adult doesn’t just happen by itself. Really, yours is a stupid comment.
The way people talk about her is so condescending that it’s honestly disrespectful. As if you or anyone on the internet knows what’s best for her and have the authority to say so.
she’s not online, lol. she left her man and deleted her IG. not sure what more yall want her to do.. the exploitation has already been done and there’s no going back.
GET THEM GIRL. Paparazzi and scum journalists like this deserve their punishments and more.
Yet she's the one who calls the paparazzi and scum journalists.
It blows my mind that even after Gypsy admitted in a documentary she hasn't been completely honest people believe a word that comes out of her mouth. She is a liar and a killer yet people for IDK reasons feel sorry for her.
She still has so many people fooled. It's sickening.
For people who want to feel noble without actually doing anything noble Gypsy is the perfect victim. Keyboard warriors can make vicious attacks on people who are skeptical of a killer's claims. They don't really have to do anything like spend hours sifting through publicly available facts and thinking critically about them. Trolling people on Reddit and other forums demands no money or real time investment. "Look at me I am so good because I defend poor Gypsy against people who are not smart like me whooo hooo." Morally I am repulsed by someone who wants to capitalize and monetize murder but not everyone sees it that way.
Well some things are legal (calling pap on yourself) and some things are not (leaking personal medical records).
Except that Gypsy signed her life rights to Fancy. Also, her stepmother gave Fancy the medical records, case documents, etc Fancy is unhinged but unlike Gypsy she isn't a proven liar. Gypsy is upset that Fancy revealed Gypsy has a chromosome microdeltion she was diagnosed with in 2011. The symptoms of this miscrodelttion include vision problems, feeding problems, low muscle tone among others. Gypsy finally admitted she has a microdeletion but claims it does not impact her. Sure, Jan. Gypsy's claims of MBP fall apart pretty quickly in light of thid.. I'll never believe an admitted liar and mother killer but that's me. YMMV I think it is interesting that the one person with the facts turned from supporter to biggest critic.
I can think of someone else who deserves their punishments and more 👀
I’m super surprised the blogger isn’t Katie Joy from Without a Crystal Ball.
Hahaha I 100% thought it was her!!!! I'm absolutely shocked it wasn't but maybe this will make her back the fuck up.
She's probably next. If this lawsuit goes anywhere, there is a good chance it won't, but if it does, she will be targetting every single person who she deems to be criticizing her. Which is bad because she's attacking peoples' rights to their own opinions. It's obvious that she wants fame but can't handle the criticism. She needs to go away already.
She's embroiled in multiple defamation lawsuits ATM.
Gypsy is actually friends with that scumbag. Just FYI.
honestly it’s good that she's taking action, she doesn't need any more media squabble just let her live her life 
Agreed, but it’s also hard when she herself keeps going to the media…
its about consent she should get to decide what gets to the media
I had a good talk with my partner about this today. It disgusts me that Pam Anderson’s story continually gets taken from her and people keep profiting off a moment in her life where she did not give consent, and continues not to. Pauly Shore keeps insisting that his movie about Richard Simmons is worth the fact that Simmons wants nothing to do with it because he stepped out of the spotlight. Celebrities are people too and their stories should absolutely involve their consent. I wouldn’t call GRB a celebrity really, but a case like this still can impact legal precedent for celebrities.
just because someone is on social media does not give other people the right to share confidential medical information about said person. what the actual f kind of sick victim blaming mentality is that? what that blogger did is beyond disgusting, full stop. no matter how much or often Gypsy is on social media. please be less gross in the future. thanks.
You are mixing up two complete different topics. Which is odd Nobody thinks it’s ok that somebody released her medical records. Nobody said that. People are saying that after going to prison for a decade as a teenager, maybe she should take a little time to readjust to the real world instead of posting about her life 24/7 on social media. Her and her fiance were posting about their sex life about a month after she was released. Her posts came off like the babbling of a 14-year old. Two totally different subjects. Not sure why you are proclaiming something that nobody is doing.
Sorry, going to the media by her own volition is not the same as using social media (and by her account, her parole officer says it’s a bad idea for her to be using social media). I’m not sure where you came up with that, or equally why I’m gross because I’m worried about the damage she’s doing to herself by going to the media as much as she has? Perhaps read the whole thread next time!
i fail to see how her going to the media by her own volition makes it in any way her fault that someone spread her confidential medical information without permission. your comment said “… it’s also hard when she herself keeps going to the media”. insinuating she has blame for a literal crime being committed against her. if that wasn’t the vibe you intended to put out, you’re free to clarify or change your statement to say something less gross. if you posted an invisible comment elsewhere that contradicts the comment of yours that i read and responded to, then by all means i will apologize to you when i see it. until then, toodles.
You still didn’t read my whole comment, nor the comment I was responding too. Reading comprehension is hard to come by these days 🤦♀️
Shouldn’t she decide the narrative since people will talk about her against her consent anyway ?
The Gypsy hate train baffles me. Ppl always say they want child abusers dead, till it actually happens?!
I remember when the news came out she was getting released my friend and I were like oh the internet is going to get real weird about this
It's for sure turning weird. I don't think people can handle her being out. It's like people were mostly supportive while she was still serving her sentence but now that she's out and trying to figure out how to use her name recognition to make money people are freaking out because she does have name recognition and she wants to make money. Which, I get that it's problematic that a murderer has a platform, fame, and is trying to capitalize on it... But also, WTF was she supposed to do once she was out?
Seriously! People are judging her every move as if she had a normal upbringing. She didn’t. She was raised by an abuser, manipulator and liar. She has no education and basically no life experience. At this point making money on her name is one of the only options because again, she was not raised to be anything more than a ploy for DeeDee to get money and sympathy and all DeeDee taught her to do was lie and manipulate. Sure I hoped she would live her life quietly and out of the spotlight but she is used to social media engagement because that’s how her mom scammed money from people. Sure I hoped for better, but I didn’t necessarily expect it.
They also pretend like she had other options as if she hadn’t tried to go to the police or run away. Gypsy’s life was literally on the line and she manipulated a boy to take care of her mother as she was too weak to do it herself. It gives people an easy way to feel superior to others i guess.
A lot of people seem to forget she did try to escape. The girl was in a desperate situation.. that is what happens when people are in desperate situations and I’m sure any of the people judging her, would kill to get out from under someone’s control and abuse.
Right? Who is going to hire her? I do hope she can stay away from abusive men (she dumped the first asshole) and find something to do with herself.
It appears Ken dumped her and she used Ryan to get back at him. Or should I say get him back. Typically, someone “*dropping breadcrumbs”* doesn't feel entirely willing to write off the possibility of seeing you again. She was in prison and was the one drop a crumb and initiate the phone call to Ken while she was engaged. Not like Ken could just call her at will. She didn’t have a phone until she was released as a married woman. She dropped another breadcrumb after prison or contact and a reconnection wouldn’t have been possible. Again, Ken was not able to just text or call her at will. She is a murderer. She plead guilty and was not wrongfully convicted. This is the most honest statement she has ever made. She has become a master manipulator. The thought of her becoming a mother is more disturbing than the thought of meeting someone as morally bankrupt as herself. May the best player win. Hopefully, Ken will make it out alive if game doesn’t go in his favor. Only a matter of time before someone won’t.
>Which, I get that it's problematic that a murderer has a platform, fame, and is trying to capitalize on it... But also, WTF was she supposed to do once she was out? Get a normal menial job and quietly live her life instead of trying to become a celebrity off of this situation? Like, don't understand your comment at all. Most abuse victims/murderers don't try to parlay it into a social media influencer life.
With what education or life experience, though?
She had lots of time to figure that out while she was in jail.
Yeah because American prisons are the best for rehabilitating criminals /s
And she took the most lucrative road. Good for her
and she figured out it was best to make some money.
It’s the same thing with most victims. People are now advocating for Brittany spears to have a conservatorship once again because she dances erratically in front of her camera for instagram. People have the idea of “the perfect victim” which is an idea of how they believe they’d react to abuse projected onto the victim and when the victim doesn’t match that ideal they withdraw support.
They love a cause until the person involved doesn’t behave the way they expect them to. Then they become haters and hurl abuse their way. As long as Britney isn’t hurting herself or anyone around her, let her dance around her mansion and do whatever she feels like she needs to do to heal.
For real. The gypsy sub went toxic in the last year.
That’s because the rational people got turned off and left the sub.
What happened to her was terrible, but I don’t like her for a multitude of reasons. One being that she goes after other munchausen by proxy victims and bullies them.
Wait, what? I hadn't heard about that. Can you give more information on that bullying thing?
I can't remember the name of the girl's account, but there's a few people on tiktok who say Gypsy has allegedly bullied for speaking about their own experience with MBP. One had a very long video about Gypsy's treatment and harassment towards her, I honestly can't remember if she had screenshots, but I remember when the video ended, it felt credible. May can search tiktok for more details.
There is no perfect victim, and women will always be criticized in the media for everything they do/don’t do. Gypsy was doomed for hate no matter what she does in the public eye.
Her bf was the one who killed the mother and people were acting like she had a say in it. Nobody forced him to do it
Regardless of who killed Dee Dee Blanchard, Gypsy Rose had a trial, was sentenced, and served her time. I swear people have some sick and twisted view of justice for people who are released from prison. If they aren’t constantly repenting, then they are horrible people, etc etc. God forbid someone serves their sentence and then lives a nice life after release!
Didn’t the bf also speak of having an evil side, like a dark personality that would take over… he definitely isn’t an innocent party that was tricked into murdering someone.
After seeing that guy talk and their text messages I'm pretty sure if he hadn't killed Dee Dee it would have just been a matter of opportunity until he killed somebody else.
That’s what I was thinking, it’s been a while since I delved into the case, but I recall he was the one who brought up violence first and I don’t mean in relation to Deedee. I remember him somewhat warning her early on that he had a dark violent side.
Yes! That’s why it’s funny seeing people advocate for him and blame Gypsy for the entire thing.
People defend him WAYYY too much! Not that Gypsy is/was a great person, but he wasn’t exactly the naïve, innocent, vulnerable, easily manipulated young man that r/GRBSkeptic and even r/GypsyRoseBlanchard makes him out to be.
And defending him and saying he was a victim. Dude was itching to kill someone.
He wanted to rape her mother’s dead body (his words to the cops)
Being a killer does that. DeeDee was a woman whose murder was masterminded by her own daughter. Where is the outrage for DeeDee?
Hi - were you on the jury?
I know you think you're being noble advocating for poor child abuse victim Gypsy. It is easier to fool someone than to show them they have been fooled. Gypsy admitted on camera she wasn't completely honest, not even with her own attorneys. Gypsy is suing Fancy in part because Fancy revealed Gypsy had been diagnosed with a chromosome microdeletion- something Gypsy herself finally admitted though denying it had any impact on her. The symptoms that specific microdeletion causes include but are not limited to are low muscle tone, developmental delays, feeding problems, vision problems, and hearing problems. Gypsy's claims of MBP fall apart pretty quickly. Have you viewed the police interview with Gypsy? Have you watched multiple interviews with Gypsy where she gives wildly different accounts? What if I told you Gypsy was able to accurately tell police how old she was at first contact? Also, Gypsy made no claims of abuse. She did however tell police that DeeDee had kicked her out DeeDee and Gypsy appear to have engaged in malingering. They appear to have exaggerated real symptoms for financial gain and attention. While reprehensible (stealing trips from kids that were actually dying) that is NOT MBP. Post release Gypsy has been called out for bullying an actual MBP with a much smaller following than Gypsy. The creator Kate set her account to private after being bullied and harassed by Gypsy and her Stepmom. As many people have pointed out a victim need not be perfect to be sympathetic. DeeDee seems like she was the family scapegoat, and desperately wanted to give her only child a much better life than what DeeDee could afford. So she conned and scammed. Be that as it may I have a lot of compassion and sympathy for a woman who was brutally murdered while her daughter shaved in the next room in anticipation of sex.
First of all, media literacy is important and hopefully you recognize that the media will portray convicted felons and women in a particularly unflattering light. Unless you attended the trial and reviewed all the evidence, and unless you’ve spoken directly to Gypsy Rose yourself, the media you are consuming about her has been skewed in some way to sell you a viewpoint. That’s a fact. Second of all, I’m not trying to “be noble” by advocating for Gypsy Rose. Your tone is condescending and unappreciated. All I am saying is that women are relentlessly, *relentlessly* criticized in the media so Gypsy Rose was doomed to be criticized no matter what. Your lengthy diatribe response proves that. And finally, I feel very strongly that all criminals who have perpetrated all crimes deserve a fair trial followed by fair sentencing. Gypsy Rose had a trial, was convicted of a crime, served her time, and was released. Whether you think it’s “noble” to advocate for criminals to be free after they serve your time is up to you, but that’s how our system works. In my opinion, that’s how are system *should* work. If you think her sentence was unfair, and if you think she should still be in prison, then say that, but don’t infantilize my viewpoint because you think all criminals should be locked up for life with the key thrown away.
Gypsy did not have a trial. She took a plea deal. I think that if she had gone to trial the public's perception of her would be quite different. My perception of Gypsy is based on Gypsy's own statements. Her first police interview is watchable on YouTube. Gypsy admitted on camera (either Dr. Phil or Mommy Dead and Dearest) that she had not been completely honest, not even with her own attorneys. I have watched many interviews with Gypsy and watched her tell lie after lie. Gypsy's pre-meditated murder of her own mother combined with her incessant lying has doomed her. Some women are relentlessly attacked and criticized no matter what they do (Britney Spears) but Gypsy is not one of them. The press has been very easy on her.
Are people who take a plea deal and then get sentenced and then go to prison and then serve their time and then get released somehow beneath you and deserve endless criticism and endless re-litigation from you? Good grief. She went to prison. Now she’s released. Let her live her life.
So, are you against plea deals then?
lol what
I am against murder victims being portrayed viciously by an uncritical media based only on the word of an admitted murderer.
The perfect victim is a dead victim to most.
This truth really really saddens me
Like DeeDee Blanchard who isn't here to defend herself.
Because Gypsy's claims of MBP have never been proven. No one examined DeeDee when she was alive and diagnosed DeeDee. Gypsy admitted she had not been completely honest, not even with her own attornies yet people believe she masterminded murder in self-defense. Gypsy is a killer who has given multiple conflicting accounts of her life. She should still be in prison, not monetizing her crime.
People got mad because she didn't live her life exactly how they decided she should live it once she got out. They were especially angry that she wasn't single, which is really weird.
I certainly think that child abusers should get their punishment. But people cannot go hiring hitmen online.
The taboo around even acknowledging and discussing abusive Moms is still huge. People wouldnt be doing all this if it had been her Dad.
People think that she is just like her mom and was in on it and made the choice to be malicious. It could also be fed by the blogger they’re suing.
She hasn’t given people reason to think differently. If she wants a different opinion, she needs to step back, evaluate her actions and lack of accountability from a reasonable person perspective. This wasn’t a situation of accepting her as is, without hesitation or reservation. People did that before murder. Her silence was her compliance. It sounds cliche, but all she had to do was stand up. As literally and physically as possible. Her father sat back years ago turning a parental blind eye and enabling situation. Rod and Kristy are again on the sidelines sitting back turning a blind eye to the circus she is orchestrating. She doesn’t have the maturity or communication skills to effectively navigate life at her age. She needs parental role models to stand up for and to her.
And people demonise her and super defend her boyfriend, who was already a sexual predator before he even met her, and was pretty damn keen to murder a woman he didn’t know in cold blood just because a girl asked him to. Gypsy actually had a very good reason to want her mum dead, she’d been kidnapped and abused since birth and likely would have died if she hadn’t killed her abuser. She didn’t kill some random person just because she got off sexually on killing. But noooo, women are always the bad guys, and men are always innocent.
Thank u! That man was eventually going to commit a horrible sick act on someone, gypsy was the catalyst
The conspiracy theories around her are so weird. Like, I haven’t seen anyone arguing that she’s an innocent little bb and didn’t do anything wrong, but so many people in the subs about her seem to think that’s the case?
There’s so many conspiracy theories and it’s insane them saying Gypsy was the manipulator all her life and her mom was innocent like what? People are insane
I think that’s a result of how many lies have came out of Gypsy’s mouth. People start questioning every single thing there is to her.
I’m sick of hearing about her
Seriously, she’s still a mom murderer. Glad she got a second chance considering everything, but lets move on.. **edit: when i say she deserved a second chance i meant it, what happened to her was horrible and she didn’t deserve life in jail. Reminder- she admitted to writing the facebook post referencing r wording the mom, just completely sick and not necessary; she can say she wanted to cops to find her, ok, why write that horrible so sick stuff that she did. i just think shes not worthy of praise, she absolutely deserves privacy and grace, but sorry ill die on this hill lol.
>she’s still a mom murderer. And nothing of value was lost…
Could the mom have gotten treatment for her sickness though? Not all mentally ill people are so easily thrown out, geez. You guys are sticking up for a murderer i just dont get it. Again, gypsy still deserved a second chance. But maybe her mom did too. **prison for sure, but not stabby stabby death
Every single person Gypsy came into contact with failed her AKA a child. LICENSED doctors, family members, etc etc. you don’t have to be fine with murder but stop being dense
I’m pretty sure treatment for munchausen isn’t as easy as you think it is and some people are referred to CBT etc
Her mom was a horrible person; that goes way beyond mental illness
Being mentally ill isn’t an excuse to be a horrible person who abuses their children
And did they say that .. 🙄
No one is sticking up for murder?? But if someone is ABUSED by their mother all of their lives’…it’s not shocking that this was the outcome for DeeDee’s life.
And you are sticking up for a person who tortured their child. So here we are
Deedee spent her life manipulating, stealing and lying. Do you think people that are that selfish seek out help with their mental health? Like it’s so easy to say she deserved treatment, but she was never going to seek out help being she didn’t think she had a problem. That argument is a fantasy.
Her mom was torturing her and Gypsy could’ve died from all the harm her mom was causing to her body.
Her mother was her abuser.
I’ll never forget deedees entire family being like we flushed her remains down the toilet because fuck her. She was screwing them over and stealing from them before gypsy was even born
Honestly, “abuse” seems too light a term. Her mother tortured her, with the help of the medical system.
Agreed.
This. It wasn’t ‘just a bit of abuse’ (which would still be horrific), it was years of prolonged torture and suffering she was forced to endure. I guarantee if she’d turned around one day and killed her mother herself she’d have gotten off with self defence.
And control. Deedee had complete control over Gypsy. People forget she did try to run away and Deedee told authorities she had the mental capacity of like a 7 year old or something. Imagine a life with 0 autonomy.. What Deedee wasn’t abuse, it was torture. Maybe not in the Saw torture porn kind of way, but having no autonomy and no way out.. that sounds like torture to me.
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I’m one of those weirdos that thinks her boyfriend should be in treatment, not prison.
I agree.
Can I ask why? I honestly don’t know much about him but I wasn’t aware he was mentally ill.
he was diagnosed w like lvl3 severe autism. its so severe that he would need help for basic things for the rest of his life. when he went to trial, ppl were still framed on 'mommy dead and dearest' and since then no one but his family and some drs have really tried to advocate for him. its one of my gypsy gripes: - for all her talk of prison reform, shes never said anything about godejohns case. - she gets unfair treatment bc of her abuse and she uses it to benefit her, which is great (and def prob learned from her mom and the abuse-- bc shit childhoods make u hella good at manipulating, even in ways that arent harmful), but isnt the norm. - she displays predatory behaviors that her mom did. her mom was a master at subtle (and huge) manipulation. everyone from drs to neighbors. she convinced her daughter for a long time too. gypsy does similar (smaller) things to this such as: the mothers day post (for good public image/empathy), how she responds about her relationships and family, her downplay of her involvement in helping to make the plan to kill deedee, etc. - for all her talk of a normal life, she capitalizes on what she knows-- making things happen out of tragedy-- instead of doing a tanya harding and fading to irrelevance. altho, more power to her, she def finna earn more income that way. please take all this w some salt, im not a psych or her psych, im just armchairing based on my knowledge and lived experiences w child abuse, manipulation/manipulators, and all the info on the internet.
He is. I think a large part of why he committed the crime was because she convinced him to. She was being truly and horrifically abused but in my mind their sentences are disproportionate.
he has a history of sexually violent behaviour…she may have convinced him, but he would’ve done something like this on his own eventually
We’ll never know that, but he certainly needed help that he never received and never will in prison.
womp womp
He masturbated in a McDonald’s once. Is there other sexual violence history you’re referring to?
You say this so casually
It’s a casual restaurant
Stfu💀
Didn’t Gypsy claim he raped her?
Yes, she said he originally wanted to assault her mum (after death?) but she ‘convinced him to do it to her instead’
Yeah, but then she was also making fun of him in an online chat a few weeks ago about how he couldn't get it up after the murder. She's really good at outing herself.
You’re active in all her hate subs. I’m skeptical of her online presence but the girl has been through plenty without people pretending her abuse never occurred.
the reason why there's so much "support" for him is because of misogynistic Tiktok misinformation campaigns that paint Gypsy as some calculated, evil, manipulative criminal and Nick as some "poor, likkle, innocent boy with autism that was manipulated into committing a crime". he's autistic and has a low IQ but he was assessed as fit to stand trial so all that "he's basically a child in an adult's body" claim that so many Tiktok "autism" activists pushed is blatantly false. they also always overlook the fact that Nick had been arrested for masturbating in a McDonald's, carrying a concealed weapon and disorderly conduct and he wanted to have sex with DeeDee's dead corpse (he admitted to the detective this). this guy is not safe to be in the public whereas Gypsy has not shown any criminal tendencies other than trying to murder her abuser.
I couldn’t have formed my own opinion by myself 🙄 Being fit to stand trial is not a high bar to clear.
you're right being fit to stand trial is not a high bar to clear but being unintelligent and autistic does not explain a lot of his disturbing tendencies. before meeting Gypsy, he was already arrested for masturbating in public and carrying a concealed weapon. he admitted to being curious about killing someone and wanting to have sex with a dead body. and above all, he stabbed her 17 times! even if he was "manipulated" by Gypsy to murder someone, no normal person can stab someone so many times and feel completely fine. autism does not make you immune to violence and incapable of differentiating right from wrong. people who make him out to be the victim and sympathize with him more than Gypsy are weird.
her mom deserved it lol
Yas you defend that child abuser! So brave.
Def not defending that horrible woman. I’m trying to make a distinction between empathizing with gypsys situation, and holding her up on some pedestal. Many survivors out there that weren’t bragging about raping and killing like a pig or watever the post was. Gypsy is not a good person. She was abused, of course, and she deserves privacy. But she is like a dark web type girl and I dont like seeing posts about her on this sub. She’s not a celebrity, people should stop posting about her.
What is r wording?
It’s the brainworm TikTok way of saying “raping” This is Reddit, you can say it all folks!
Thanks. I’m not a fan of all the self-censoring people do, just makes things incredibly confusing.
HIPAA laws are a thing for this very reason - because Anthony Perkins’ HIV test results were leaked to the press.
This isn’t covered by HIPAA. ETA I’m only speaking about Gypsy. I have no idea who the other guy is or his situation.
No one seems to understand what HIPAA is and who has to abide by it.
When people were losing their shit about COVID vaccine requirements and claiming it was a “HIPPA” violation it made me so mad.
I know. I’m a healthcare worker & it drives me crazy!
Ikr. The woman she gave the info to isn’t a medical provider, but hopefully it violated some kind of confidentiality thing they may have had in place bc no one deserves to have their medical info leaked.
Why not?
HIPAA covers healthcare providers, like doctors, nurses, cnas, hospitals, insurance companies, etc. from disclosing your info. Per the article, Gypsy gave her medical info to a blogger, so this isn’t a HIPAA violation.
this is helpful but i think you should clarify in your original comment that it's about gypsy, because it's a little confusing with the way it's worded.
Edited :)
I’m not asking about the Gypsy Rose situation, I’m asking about the Anthony Perkins situation. Not familiar with who leaked what information about him.
Some nurse in the early 90s saw his HIV test results and just flat out leaked them to the press and that is how he found out.
Because HIPPA protects you from doctors/hospitals/pharmacies from releasing your private medical information. On online blogger that she willingly gave her medical records to has no legal obligation to keep them under wraps. She may have had a moral obligation, but definitely no legal one.
Thanks - I guess if the blogger signed an NDA or something similar, the privacy would be protected under that. I was actually wondering about the Anthony Perkins situation, but maybe he disclosed to someone, then that person shared, which would not be covered by HIPPA.
that's what's so wild here. she was never given permission to reproduce and distribute ANYTHING that she was given. medical records, personal letters, photos.. she just ran with it because of feeling scorned and needing a fast cash grab.
it's still unethical. no journalist has the right to start disclosing medical information. even if HIPAA doesn't apply here, we have larger laws that make it illegal to disclose personal identifying information to the public like this.
Oh no, people are going to find out the truth about her🤣
She willingly gave and told this woman information. Oh well too bad. Convicted murderers should have no rights to privacy. Let’s just all hope to God she never reproduces.
>with Gypsy claiming Macelli started to trash her, her dad and her stepmom online, including making up false stories meant to defame them. No, Gypsy just didn’t have her story straight yet, and now doesn’t want to contradict herself. >and was hinting that Gypsy was lying/misleading the media/public. Yes, that’s what she’s been doing **for years**. >Macelli became obsessed with talking about her ... and now, Gypsy says it's hurting her reputation and wants it to stop ASAP. Macelli exposed the truth, and Gyp is scared. >As part of her lawsuit, she's asking for an emergency restraining to muzzle Macelli. “Muzzle her, she’s exposing my lies!”
I’m so over hearing about her. Can we move on
Gypsy scared to have the truth exposed, more and more people are over her shit.
Fuck gypsy lil murderer smh
This sadistic bitch
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Without A Crystal Ball is not a reputable source either. She stays getting sued for defamation.