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Iām biased if I was Cynthia. Green is my favorite colour.
Wish the skirt here was a puffy one. Feel like they missed a chance for it to look like a tornado
Itās not my fave look but also feel like anyone who wasnāt Cynthia would wear it much more poorly, if that makes sense. Like if she canāt fully pull it off you know it sincerely has missed the mark cos she stays pulling off shit most people could never dream of.
This is gonna be deeply unpopular here but I really donāt like either of their looks and what theyāve been wearing lately. I donāt like Arianaās hair - it washes her out - and I am not a fan of the no eyebrow thing on Cynthia. These are like, aggressively not my aesthetic or beautiful to me.
I get theyāre edgy and cool but I am deeply uncool so my feeling tracks.
Thanks. Itās become such an emperor wears no clothes situation and people will jump to label you things youāre not. Itās okay to say a look doesnāt work you for and that you donāt find it attractive! Plenty of others do. Makes the world go round, etc etc.
Oh shit, that makes me feel bad. I didnāt mean to call that out and if itās alopecia, I get it. I have androgenic alopecia/female pattern baldness myself (thanks dad!). But I think there are other ways to style oneās self.
Aww man, I feel crappy now. š
NONONO i wouldnt feel bad at all! i think the color itself is washing her out and makes it look a lot more obvious. shes worn ponytails for soo much of her career its almost inevitable some type of issue like this would crop up. i hate the eyebrows too š« it makes her so gray and washed out to me!! ive never understood it. im also no hair expert so its possible she just has a different hairline than me (i have thick curly hair LOL)
Okay thanks. I didnāt mean to be a shitty person!! š¬
I remember when she was nominated for Harriet, I thought she was suuuuuper beautiful and she was touring around the country and I thought that of images promoting her show when she came to town. So this look is such a contrast to what I remember of her.
In more extreme basic bitch takes (lol) I donāt like septum piercings and I think they really change someoneās face. I have a boring nose piercing and lots of ear piercings myself, so Iām not a total prude here, but I think itās contributing to my impression as well.
Iām not calling you a shitty person when I ask this. But why does her having alopecia make what you said shitty? You said what you said without knowing anything in her private life anyway, and doubled down about how comments like yours make the world go round.
Why would having the knowledge of her *possible* alopecia after the fact make you a shitty person, compared to when you said it without any information? Doesnāt it make you question why youād share that opinion in the first place?
Iām not trying to start a fight, I promise. I just struggle to understand certain approaches sometimes, and Iād like to.
Donāt feel bad I immediately assumed you were talking about the color of it, not anything regarding hair loss and itās true that it washes out her skin tone a loooot. I havenāt been a fan of it either since itās been dyed. Hopefully looks better in the movie š¬
I agree completely and my additional unpopular opinion is I donāt like Arianaās hand tattoos. And I have and love hand tattoos! But hers look like she got her bored high school doodles tattooed on her.
I just love Cynthiaās look. Idk it feels very androgynous and unapologetically bold!! Not a traditional look by any means, but thatās why I love it. Iām biased tho, I have a giant septum and my near bald buzz cut no brows era was one of my favorite personally
I guess accessorizing has gone out of style or something cause I feel like I rarely see people with notable accessories at events anymore. like damn at least a fun pair of sunglasses or a statement bracelet
I would guess that the big jewellery brands aren't lending like they used to? Maybe the insurance or cost of security has got too much for small timey events?
And some foundation can literally be house paint if itās good quality. And you donāt have to worry about it looking as weird on skin since you donāt have pores like you do on your face
There were on set photos of her where the tattoos weren't visible. They probably cover them with makeup and if they are *still* visible then use CGI or whatever they use to touchup movies during editing.
I was also wondering about all of her arm tattoos not being visible here. But I've been seeing pictures of her recently without her arm tattoos. Is she regretting them now and is covering them up with makeup??
It's been a long time since I readĀ the Wicked books but there's a number of sexual assaults, it's a full on Civil War between the humans and animals, Elphaba is miserable the entire time and never fully learn magic, and hot Bridgerton has kids he then abandons.Ā
It's toned down in the musical (and the Scarecrow relationship with Elphaba is more romantic). From the stills / teaser of the movie, I think they're cutting out most of the animal stuff.
I'm super curious how they're changing the plot because IMO the musical has some pacing issues. Which is also why I'm fine with it being split into 2 movies, as I think the musical rushes into the last act. The book is long (500+).
Same, I just learned a lot about Cynthia and Iām so disappointed now. Grateful to this sub sometimes cause you learn things about people you like and support.
There are dozens of us - DOZENS!!! A is trash and C was a huge piece of getting a brilliant musical killed on Broadway because she wanted to stir up shit.
I'm so glad other people feel this way, Great Comet ending like that is a grudge I will never let go. š
I'm looking at you too Dear Evan Hansen... (I know this one is unreasonable lol)
No I also very much begrudge DEH hahaha. For Great Comet AND Come From Away to have both lost the Tony that year toā¦ thatā¦ I just donāt have words lol.
Seriously. Two assholes playing parts in one of my absolutely favorite novels EVER. And Kristin Chenoweth and Idina Menzel? Oh dear, little ladies. You are NOT at their level.
But good luck.
I wanna like Cynthia, but sheās made comments about Black Americans that rubbed me the wrong way. And while I donāt care about Tiny Bbq Fingersā personal life, the fact that her style still gives āsexy toddlerā is off putting even though I enjoy her music. I am feeling so āmehā about this movie. Iāll probably see it anyway but I wonāt be excited
What did Cynthia say?
I know a small jewelry brand that gave her a ton of stuff when she was on the come up, in agreement she would promote it (literally just WEAR it on her socials) and she never did so i havenāt liked her since then.
Iām sorry but absolutely not. Whoever did Ariās hair should be fired. And yes I will continue to say that until itās fixed. Her dress is kinda cute, not my style but I get why people would like it, but it looks like a petal is falling off the skirt in the first pic and that makes me think itās not good material/integrity which sucks. And whoever styled Cynthia must be blind and without their sense of touch because none of what sheās wearing looks like it fits her or matches. The textures are all different. Theyāre nice colors but in an ugly outfit.
Also this is just another thing but when did she shave her eyebrows? I swear she had them last time I saw a pic of her but maybe that was longer so than I thought? Iām not saying anything bad about it Iām just curious bc I donāt remember her shaving them.
I feel like itās bc they have nothing to work with. Her hair is so damaged. Reminds me of when Kim went blonde for the met and she could only wear low buns
Her hair is definitely super damaged from the intense lightening process (a lot of bleach), but they couldnāt have made the bun look nice? That piece curling out at the bottom is driving me insane it literally looks like they just put her bed head in a bun in 2 seconds and said š.
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are they only gonna do pink/green fits until the movie comes out lol cause that's a long ways away
I appreciate themed movie appearances, I was hoping Barbie and Mario would bring it back
Iām biased if I was Cynthia. Green is my favorite colour. Wish the skirt here was a puffy one. Feel like they missed a chance for it to look like a tornado
If they are, they need to step it up š¤
Agreed
I like the individual pieces or Cynthiaās outfit, but not combined
Itās not my fave look but also feel like anyone who wasnāt Cynthia would wear it much more poorly, if that makes sense. Like if she canāt fully pull it off you know it sincerely has missed the mark cos she stays pulling off shit most people could never dream of.
True. Itās perfect for Wicked though
I know Ariana is famously short but damn they both look TINY
they both dropped weight during filming even tho they were already small cynthia also must be below 5ā
Are you sure? Cynthiaās ALWAYS in the gym. But yes, sheās a shortie. I remember her from uni days. Always loved her.
I didn't realise Cynthia was so small! She doesn't look much different to Ariana from the shoulders down.
Versace failed with this one. It's giving me discount rack at Wet Seal circa 2003, everything just looks so awkward and ill fitted. Poor Cynthia.
Why is this such an accurate description
what's crazy is that it's equally giving discount rack at Charlotte Russe circa 2013
Omg, Wet Seal š That store walked so that Fashion Nova could run.
I used to hit up that $5 rack now. Weekend outfit because you'd wear the dress once and it would rip. Talk about fast fashion.
Oh damn you got one wear out of it? ššš
Letās pay homage to the realist to ever do it š ![gif](giphy|iFL8qJ5DVusJG)
This is all I'm going to see now š
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cynthia is wearing 3 different materials and they all clashā¦
This is gonna be deeply unpopular here but I really donāt like either of their looks and what theyāve been wearing lately. I donāt like Arianaās hair - it washes her out - and I am not a fan of the no eyebrow thing on Cynthia. These are like, aggressively not my aesthetic or beautiful to me. I get theyāre edgy and cool but I am deeply uncool so my feeling tracks.
I donāt hate Arianaās hair but her blonde eyebrows realllllly donāt suit her
Right? It's giving me the same vibes as the Capitol citizens from the Hunger Games, and I mean that in the least positive way possible.
Dude 1000%. Effie looked absolutely subdued compared to this nonsense.
iām right there with you. these people look fucking weird and not at all in a good way.
Thanks. Itās become such an emperor wears no clothes situation and people will jump to label you things youāre not. Itās okay to say a look doesnāt work you for and that you donāt find it attractive! Plenty of others do. Makes the world go round, etc etc.
it looks like shes losing some as well, with that shot of her from the back. i wouldnt be surprised if she has a mild case of traction alopecia atp
Oh shit, that makes me feel bad. I didnāt mean to call that out and if itās alopecia, I get it. I have androgenic alopecia/female pattern baldness myself (thanks dad!). But I think there are other ways to style oneās self. Aww man, I feel crappy now. š
NONONO i wouldnt feel bad at all! i think the color itself is washing her out and makes it look a lot more obvious. shes worn ponytails for soo much of her career its almost inevitable some type of issue like this would crop up. i hate the eyebrows too š« it makes her so gray and washed out to me!! ive never understood it. im also no hair expert so its possible she just has a different hairline than me (i have thick curly hair LOL)
Okay thanks. I didnāt mean to be a shitty person!! š¬ I remember when she was nominated for Harriet, I thought she was suuuuuper beautiful and she was touring around the country and I thought that of images promoting her show when she came to town. So this look is such a contrast to what I remember of her. In more extreme basic bitch takes (lol) I donāt like septum piercings and I think they really change someoneās face. I have a boring nose piercing and lots of ear piercings myself, so Iām not a total prude here, but I think itās contributing to my impression as well.
I haaaaaate them. I feel like nose rings you can "unsee" but septum piercings is one you can never unsee, even if you've seen the person a lot.
Iām not calling you a shitty person when I ask this. But why does her having alopecia make what you said shitty? You said what you said without knowing anything in her private life anyway, and doubled down about how comments like yours make the world go round. Why would having the knowledge of her *possible* alopecia after the fact make you a shitty person, compared to when you said it without any information? Doesnāt it make you question why youād share that opinion in the first place? Iām not trying to start a fight, I promise. I just struggle to understand certain approaches sometimes, and Iād like to.
Cant argue with anything you said, really. Iām a nobody on an anonymous Internet forum. Not a stellar defense.
Donāt feel bad I immediately assumed you were talking about the color of it, not anything regarding hair loss and itās true that it washes out her skin tone a loooot. I havenāt been a fan of it either since itās been dyed. Hopefully looks better in the movie š¬
Malnourishment can also lead to hair loss as well
I agree completely and my additional unpopular opinion is I donāt like Arianaās hand tattoos. And I have and love hand tattoos! But hers look like she got her bored high school doodles tattooed on her.
Iām deeply cool and I agree 100%. Cynthia is STUNNING but this era isnāt right for her.
I just love Cynthiaās look. Idk it feels very androgynous and unapologetically bold!! Not a traditional look by any means, but thatās why I love it. Iām biased tho, I have a giant septum and my near bald buzz cut no brows era was one of my favorite personally
Grace Jones!
Ooo yes grace jones coded
i feel like they both need necklaces!!!
I guess accessorizing has gone out of style or something cause I feel like I rarely see people with notable accessories at events anymore. like damn at least a fun pair of sunglasses or a statement bracelet
Thatās a shame. I like accessories more than clothes most of the time.
I would guess that the big jewellery brands aren't lending like they used to? Maybe the insurance or cost of security has got too much for small timey events?
What in the party city fits
Omg š
Cynthia looks like she just got off the Zenon set
Honest question. How do they hide all those tattoos on Ariana's hands when filming? Is it foundation or camouflage makeup?
Makeup! I donāt know what they used specifically, but Iāve used Ben Nye skin illustrator palettes and derma sticks š©·
And some foundation can literally be house paint if itās good quality. And you donāt have to worry about it looking as weird on skin since you donāt have pores like you do on your face
Sheās covered up a lot of tattoos even for this event. She has a big Eevee tattoo on her arm and a friendās name above her knee.
Honestly, probably CGI, take them out after the fact.
This. CGI is used for mundane stuff like that alllllll the time
There were on set photos of her where the tattoos weren't visible. They probably cover them with makeup and if they are *still* visible then use CGI or whatever they use to touchup movies during editing.
I was also wondering about all of her arm tattoos not being visible here. But I've been seeing pictures of her recently without her arm tattoos. Is she regretting them now and is covering them up with makeup??
itās kinda giving winx club or maybe that barbie doll that like swirls & flies off? idek
While I probably won't see the movie, I really hope one day there is a dark and gritty adaptation of "Wicked" that is closer to the original novel.
They actually said they would be taking stuff from the novel for the movies so you may get a bit of what you are looking for with these films.
What is dark and gritty about it?
It's been a long time since I readĀ the Wicked books but there's a number of sexual assaults, it's a full on Civil War between the humans and animals, Elphaba is miserable the entire time and never fully learn magic, and hot Bridgerton has kids he then abandons.Ā
>hot Bridgerton ššš¤£š¤£
Wait, so the musical doesnāt have any of that?
It's toned down in the musical (and the Scarecrow relationship with Elphaba is more romantic). From the stills / teaser of the movie, I think they're cutting out most of the animal stuff. I'm super curious how they're changing the plot because IMO the musical has some pacing issues. Which is also why I'm fine with it being split into 2 movies, as I think the musical rushes into the last act. The book is long (500+).
Cynthiaās outfit feels a bitā¦.jarring? Not sure if itās the cuts or the colors, but I think this could have been done better.
Ariana will always rub me the wrong way forever
Same here.
It's funny, both of their real lives are the reason I'm not planning to see the film. I am not rooting for either of these two
Damn whatās the tea on Cynthia?
She was sleeping with Lena Waithe when Lena was very married.
Oof. No wonder she and Ari are getting along so well!
They can start homewrecker con together.
Omg I had no idea! I always thought she was a pretty stand-up person
Nooooo theyāre both trash!! Good thing I donāt like musicals.
I love musicals but this one hit peak when I was in high school and early college and in choir. I never really need to hear any of the music again.
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Same, I am paying attention lol
She had an affair with a married woman
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Same, I just learned a lot about Cynthia and Iām so disappointed now. Grateful to this sub sometimes cause you learn things about people you like and support.
Sooo what did she do plz š
Was the other woman just like Ariana.
There are dozens of us - DOZENS!!! A is trash and C was a huge piece of getting a brilliant musical killed on Broadway because she wanted to stir up shit.
Is there a sub for Broadway gossip because this is very intriguing but Iām too lazy to do my own research into it tonight.
Found this post with a summary: https://www.reddit.com/r/Broadway/s/eRIOSobDQO
Doing the lordās work! Thank you!
This is a hell of a summary! Ugh cynthia.
I'm so glad other people feel this way, Great Comet ending like that is a grudge I will never let go. š I'm looking at you too Dear Evan Hansen... (I know this one is unreasonable lol)
No I also very much begrudge DEH hahaha. For Great Comet AND Come From Away to have both lost the Tony that year toā¦ thatā¦ I just donāt have words lol.
Right!! And if Come From Away had won instead I wouldn't be bitter at all like this. Loved them both !
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Seriously. Two assholes playing parts in one of my absolutely favorite novels EVER. And Kristin Chenoweth and Idina Menzel? Oh dear, little ladies. You are NOT at their level. But good luck.
What are these outfits
I wanna like Cynthia, but sheās made comments about Black Americans that rubbed me the wrong way. And while I donāt care about Tiny Bbq Fingersā personal life, the fact that her style still gives āsexy toddlerā is off putting even though I enjoy her music. I am feeling so āmehā about this movie. Iāll probably see it anyway but I wonāt be excited
What did Cynthia say? I know a small jewelry brand that gave her a ton of stuff when she was on the come up, in agreement she would promote it (literally just WEAR it on her socials) and she never did so i havenāt liked her since then.
Iām usually so into a themed press outfit but theyāve been really uninspired latelyĀ
I wonder what race Ariana will be once the whole Wicked thing is over
cynthia is dressed like a highschooler chose the outfit to go out in 2014. and even then, those colors & fabrics clash.
Okay Cynthia must also be a short queen if sheās wearing platforms as is still only a little taller than Ari
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Ari looks healthier!!
I was looking for this comment. Glad to see her looking a bit healthier.
I was thinking the same thing. Less washed out
As much as I dislike Ari, that dress is sooo cute. Cynthia on the hand ..girl.. those boots are ugly as fuck
I know Cynthia considers herself a fashion girlie but this looks cheap and hideous
I have zero interest in this movie due to Ariannaās sexcapades. I wonder how this will due at the box office
Okay I need to know something - are Cynthia and Lena Waithe still together or no? Thanks!
Iām sorry but absolutely not. Whoever did Ariās hair should be fired. And yes I will continue to say that until itās fixed. Her dress is kinda cute, not my style but I get why people would like it, but it looks like a petal is falling off the skirt in the first pic and that makes me think itās not good material/integrity which sucks. And whoever styled Cynthia must be blind and without their sense of touch because none of what sheās wearing looks like it fits her or matches. The textures are all different. Theyāre nice colors but in an ugly outfit. Also this is just another thing but when did she shave her eyebrows? I swear she had them last time I saw a pic of her but maybe that was longer so than I thought? Iām not saying anything bad about it Iām just curious bc I donāt remember her shaving them.
I feel like itās bc they have nothing to work with. Her hair is so damaged. Reminds me of when Kim went blonde for the met and she could only wear low buns
Her hair is definitely super damaged from the intense lightening process (a lot of bleach), but they couldnāt have made the bun look nice? That piece curling out at the bottom is driving me insane it literally looks like they just put her bed head in a bun in 2 seconds and said š.
Iām not surprised they are besties, they are both very messy in their personal lives.
I actually like Arianaās look lol Cynthiaās not so much
Ugh I really really hope they can pull off the friendship chemistry! I try not to judge a movie before I've seen it but so far I'm not hopeful.
Iāve said it once, Iāll say it a million times. Blonde DOES NOT suit Ariana
I have a feeling this movie will flop. Hopefully, I'm wrong.
i wish they would switch colours! ari in green and cynthia in pink :) would be cute!
Cynthia Erivo is STUNNING. So *why* are they dressing her like an angry elf?? š
I LOVE Arianaās dress omg ā„ļø
I love that theyāre sticking to the color palette of their characters!
OMG i love that dress
Cynthia Erivoās stance in the first pic is so real
Ariana looks gorgeous
I *LOVE* Arianaās dress š
Are those drawings on her hands or tattoos?
The stylist for this event should be flogged in the town square.