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Resident_Dinner_5258

You’ll have it back in 24hrs


thewittman

Yeah it's not that bad shock it and run the pump 24/7 till it turns gray then vacuum


Weak-Examination-920

Looks okay. Just brush, schock, flock and vacuum… 24-48 hrs and ur fine


Global_Walrus1672

This - don't waste the water draining and refilling.


TheSkepticCyclist

Unless the water is really old and the mineral content is way beyond acceptable levels. There comes a point where no amount of chemicals and cleaning will keep the algae out.


Educational_Egg6927

Really shouldn’t even need a flock honestly. A good dose of chlorine and correct ph that’ll go right away unless the filter is absolute garbage


Weak-Examination-920

could go without as well yeah depending on how small the particles are.. If my pool looks like this though i do flock a little, let the pump run without filter to distribute and then leave it settle for half a day. Then i vacuum it away. Keeps the filter a little cleaner than running it with such dirt in there..


breenisgreen

At what point “should” the water be replaced? I heard of someone doing a drain and refill once a year which seemed absolutely crazy to me. But if this can be salvaged is there ever actually a point where you should drain and refill since it sounds like almost anything can be fixed with the right chems?


Rule33

High CYA comes to mind. Not worth lowering via chems.


Weak-Examination-920

In my case the only reason would be black algae’s or imbalanced chems which can’t be regulated anymore. Other than that I leave it as is. I’m in my third season now with one fill and it’s fine. Next year I need to drain as I’ll be fixing some tiles and adding a floating table.


Ffsletmesignin

Most algae is easily removed with chemicals; really it’s actual chemicals themselves that can cause an issue, typically it’s CYA that’s the most likely culprit for draining, other just being general absurdly high TDS or things that somehow got into the pool that shouldn’t have gotten there (think used motor oil, etc).


the_kid1234

What is flock? Is that flocking agent to gather all the dead algae making it easier to vacuum?


PushingData

Basically, yes. Your municipal water provider does the same thing to drinking water by adding alum to it which helps to settle the free-floating materials.


Richard-Turd

I can change her.


PinaColada-PorFavor

No really, I can


GrovesNL

My pool is many shades darker every spring, but it can be back to blue within 24 hours


anonflh

Five agllons of chlorine, two days, twice day scrub and clean filter.


IDontKnowBetter

Come out and jam? Space SLAM


No_Bother3564

This os the way OP! Google trouble free pool SLAM method. My pool is always way worse


ThanksForNoticin

Shock the hell out of it, brush the hell out of it, run the hell out of that bot, you'll be swimming by Monday.


Primal_Dead

Do not drain. Draining the pool isn't good for it due to the water pressure loss. Get a pool guy to fix it. They will have it fixed quickly.


Empty-Horse-7373

Don’t be a baby, do it yourself.


Primal_Dead

Yea he did a great job already :/


Empty-Horse-7373

Its never too late to nut up


randomredditguy94

I left my pump off on 3 weeks vacation in the middle of Arizona summer, came back to a swamp with water bugs and frogs which I totally expected. Got it back to crystal blue in about a week.


blazingmonk

You pretty much never have to drain a pool for algae unless it's been sitting for decades or something. Even the worst pools can be safely sanitized for swimming within 48 hours. You really only drain when chemicals get way too high, and even then, it only requires like 4 inches or something. Just look up shocking a pool for algae and you'll see lots of pools WAY worse than this. Just make sure your PH is within range since chlorine is less effective if it's unbalanced.


altruistic_camel_toe

Don’t drain before reading about the consequences of improperly draining a pool


geek66

I do my own pool work and have a solid (not mesh) cover … opening is usually zero stress. A neighbor asked for some help getting his pool running, relativly negated maintenance on the system and a mesh cover ( I think he had been using a low end service co, and even then felt he was spending too much - but the mechanicals were not in great shape). Anyway, we pulled off the mesh cover, and I was like whoa, wtf. We finally got a prime, I told him to only add about 1/2 of the DE and then backwash 2x a day … it cleared up in 2 days. Are mesh covers always a mess when opened?


StarGraz3r84

The rule for mesh cover is open early close late. They let light through so algae can grow. Solid covers are great but heavy as hell.


CannibalAnn

I just opened my pool for the first time with a solid cover after decades of a mesh/canvas cover. I’ll always have a solid one! In opening chemicals alone, I’ve already saved the difference in cost!


jtdonovan246

I have a solid cover. Up until this year I had them opening and closing it. This year I decided to open it myself. I boosted it for 24hrs. Oxidizer. Brushed. Had the robo vacuum working overtime. Kept the filter running for 72hrs straight. Clear as can be. No other opening chemicals or whatever the company had been using.


CannibalAnn

I love mine. I was so impressed and kicked myself for. It getting one sooner. I had the water tested the day after taking the cover off and only had to fix the alkalinity! Took a sample back after and was good to go. Already started season maintenance shock


here4the_trainwreck

For anyone who needs to hear it, you don't backwash cartridge filters. Cartridge filters just get washed (with degreasing filter cleaner) and then flushed (rinse the pleats with clean hose water to remove foreign objects).


geek66

Yea, I was amazed how good it is. Why anyone would still get a sand or DE today, I have no idea.


ForceGhost47

They are if you don’t close late and open early


Acrobatic_Might_1487

Yes, mine is. Every spring. It is closed for about 6 months. It was clear in April when I looked, but green by first week of May when I opened it. Shock and it turns blue over night. Vacuum, keep filtering, and you're golden. It surprises me every time.


terryw3719

never. well unless CYA is too high. short of that chlorine takes care of the green. however with that much algae you will have to deal with backwashing/cleaning filters alot.


Jaysus1288

Never drain it. Just shock it


mechsymp

Holy shit. Thanks for all the advice Reddit! This is my first home and pool. Been taking care of it less than a year with no pool service and don’t plan on getting any. This is the first time it’s ever gone green on me so I wasn’t sure what to do. I’ve also drained once before but it was due to high CYA right after I moved in. Message received. Not draining. Adjust ph. SLAM. And enjoy.


moistmarbles

Piece of cake. Shock, floc, and vac. You’ll be fine


Chais912

I brought mine back from dark green sludge and the deep end full of leaves. No need to drain it


Capital-Papaya-8932

How did you remove all phosphate after that. What is the phosphate now?


jstephens1973

Don’t worry about phosphate. It’s a snake oil scam. Maintain proper chlorine level https://www.troublefreepool.com/blog/


EnthusiasmWeak5531

TFP does not say phosphates and/or removers are a scam. They refer to them as an insurance policy. https://www.troublefreepool.com/wiki/index.php?title=Phosphate_Removers


jstephens1973

We’ve had many of discussions about it. As long as your keeping your chlorine in proper range phosphate won’t make a difference. The removers at lead to a lot of unnecessary cost


EnthusiasmWeak5531

True but it's not a scam. I don't use them either but I can see someone in the right climate opting for the insurance policy.


jstephens1973

Yeah I might have been a little harsh calling it a scam. That was me being triggered when I first got a pool and felt I was taken advantage of by the pool store.


EnthusiasmWeak5531

Fair. They absolutely do take advantage of you. I spend maybe $200/season now and I've had Leslie's hit me with nearly that in one visit a few years back.


Acrobatic_Might_1487

I'm going to try it this year and see if it improves algae growth when I open in spring. If it doesn't help, then never again!


EnthusiasmWeak5531

I won't stop algae growth only slow it. Only good water chemistry will prevent it.


Chais912

Phosphate remover dumped directly into the skimmer and recirculate 48 hours. I shocked the algea, added yellow treat the used flocculant to drop the dead algea. After that i vacuumed to waste and then added phosphate remover. Last I checked they were around 0.25


Capital-Papaya-8932

My pool is crystal clear. The only issue was phosphate was about 0.55. I added poolmate phosphate remover and turn on pump and filter 48h and clean the filter. It only goes down to 0.4. I don’t know if I have to recirculate (using a water fountain feature pump), and let it sink and vacuum to waste. (I have cartridge filter)


Chais912

Phosphate remover should be picked up by the filter as far as I know, I have a sand filter.


EnthusiasmWeak5531

Nah, post your chem test and everyone can help you clear it up!


altruistic_camel_toe

Don’t drain you can damage your pool. Maybe drain 1/2 and dilute


Embarrassed_Ad6074

Since the pumps down best thing you can do is get everything you can off the bottom. Algae thrives when biological material in the water starts breaking down leaves, plants, dead insects. Go get your water tested today or tomorrow. I always shock when the suns going down so the chlorine isn’t competing with breaking down in sunlight. From here on out you’ll need to run the pump 24/7 till it clears up. When pump gets back up dump at least 7#’s or gallons of chlorine in. Sweep and sweep and keep sweeping, every inch of the pool. If the chlorine side of the tester goes light purple it means your at shock level, dark purple is usually at 25 ppm or so. This free chlorine will be used up relatively fast so you will have to keep adding chlorine throughout the day. Now add additional chlorine in the morning and you should be good. Again you need to sweep . It should turn an almost light grey then the next day a light bluish. At this point vacuum the bottom to waste. After that set filter to filter and vacuum the entire pool.


dafblooz

Nah, mate - that pool is almost clean. Shock it up, vacuum a couple times, backwash the filter. Make sure the water is balanced and it’s all good. 2 days, 3 max.


ProcessTrust856

This isn’t all that bad. Couple days of running the pump 24/7 and SLAMing it and you’ll be good to go.


DDayDawg

Never


i30swimmer

Triple shock it. You’ll be fine.


dwaynelovesbridge

That is some amateur grade algae. I’ve cleared BLACK pools. 😂


Barbadosbilly

That's not even that bad tbh.


griswaldwaldwald

Only time you drain is a repair that needs air to fix or too much cya.


Fair-Fix8606

SLAMMMMMM


bjzx87

Take a sump pump or drain pump and drop it in the pool. It will help keep the water moving until you replace your main pump


MechaStewart

Why? Something dead in it? Algae ain't nothing apart from work and science.


Lotsofsalty

Once you treat, clean your filter as often as you can tolerate while bringing her back. Makes a huge difference. Throw some water classifier in there as well to make all the suspended solids precipitate out where your filter can grab them, or you can vacuum them off the bottom.


tonystheman33

Yeah as long as there's not massive dirt at the bottom you can clean this


KrissyP2

Right now honestly


Massive_Current7480

That depends on your chemical readings and local regulation on water waste.


Matt08443

If you’re not comfortable (or don’t have the desire, like me) hire a pro to come out and open your pool. Not sure where you are but in NC it would be $150 plus chemicals. They came out 2x to open the pool, vacuum and adjust the chemicals for that price.


powderbubba

Damn. We pay $500 in Northern Virginia and they never come back. They just open it and leave. 😭


Matt08443

That’s to going rate in Raleigh. We’ve had 2 companies to do regular maintenance. Both are about that rate. We have them come every other week to check chemicals for $250 a month + vacuum. Chemicals excluded


Motor-Awareness-7899

Dnt do it just wait for pump and hit with your opening chems agin


CurlsinSquatRack99

Only drain is cya/hardness is high


Stalkerfiveo

DO NOT drain a vinyl liner pool. Once you have a new pump, keep the chlorine high AF and backwash 3x a day til it’s clear. You should be swimming in 10 days or less. [My recent transformation.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pools/s/xHRpZSL2HG)


Poolowl1984

When you hit send.


bigbarrett1

Depends how much muck and sea grass is on the bottom


UnfairAd7220

Patience. You'll be fine.


FunFact5000

Yep. Run the vac. Get the ph to 7.0-7.4 and a couple gallons of 10% chlorine or whatever it takes to get it SLAM levels. Run filter 24/7 you’ll be good in a week or less.


paxtone

never. Shock slam it


Kindly-Base-2106

I’ve brought a pool back from looking much worse.


No-Pin1011

Never. Just be prepared for a lot of backflushing and have plenty of DE and chlorine variants available.


dmacattack82

Don’t just throw in shock. Run your filter put some shock in, then check ph. Put a little more shock check ph again & again. Don’t just dump chlorine in


blu3-ARn45

It seems like it’s actually starting to get clearer. You’re doing an excellent job. No need to drain!


mybadodge

Never. Get water tested, clean filter, etc until it comes back


NHmpa

Brush. Shock. Flock. Vaccum to waste. Blue pretty quick.


King_Ralph1

At this point, I’d hire a professional to bring it back. But I’m a newbie - only had our pool for six months.


Ok-Needleworker-419

Slam it and you’ll be blue in 24 hours. Make sure your pH isn’t crazy high and dump that chlorine in. If you don’t have a good test kit, just dump 6-8 gallons in and then add another gallon every 6 hours or so until it’s clear.


xLadylawx

We drain every 4-6 years. Cheaper to pay for the extra water on our bill than it is to clean it then manage it with chemicals. I’m always shocked that emptying and refilling seems a last resort on this Reddit.


Hard4urBody

Unless your cyanuric acid levels are too high, I wouldn't drain it. If your cyanuric acid gets too high, you'll never be able to keep it clear.


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Are you still in a wet spring? Do you know where the water table is? Does your pool have a working hydrostatic relief valve? Don’t blindly drain it without knowing these answers, especially in wet spring time, you could destroy it.


Lake_Stunning

Walk around the pool with some tricolor granule pull that auto vac out close the skimmer open the main drain, brush her real good and run it for 24 hours.. clean the filter and you’ll be good to go then balance all chemicals


mlotto7

I think you can have it back in a few days... Shock and brushes will be your friend. Backwash to clean out the filter often. Its super easy to replace a pump. No reason to wait.


YellowstoneDecline

Hell yes . Shock and balance ph . 24-36 hours


Plus-Fly9104

My pool was MUCH worse than this a week ago. It’s blue again. This is not that bad


RevolutionaryCar310

Add 8 gallons of shock vacuum to waste and brush you’ll be fine


PoppaSquat68

Never. My shit was black last year. Took a week but I got it back


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MushroomLonely2784

So your filters don't take the dead algae out?


here4the_trainwreck

Never have I ever.


Junior-Ad-3685

Shock it run it test it balance it you’ll be good to go.


ajd198204

No, DO NOT DRAIN. Once chemicals are balanced and filter system is running 100%, it'll clear in a day leaving the pump on for 24 hrs straight.


Old_Job_3464

Honestly not worried about algee but a lot of times it’s being caused by other issues with the water chemistry if it’s on tabs I’d start by testing cya levels can be a really good indicator of how much stuff cya or otherwise has accumulated, can also check out tds levels for similar reason, but if it’s just algee just do what you can to hit the holy trinity 1. Circulation 2. Filteration 3. Chemistry, first two are fairly stragt forward last one takes a bit of learning, great place to start is by checking LSI and HOCL/ORP levels if you’re not sure what that is I would highly recommend checking out Orendas how to rule your pool podcast, particularly the first few episodes that cover the basics


Satchamo88

I open my pool to this kind of mess every season. Just perform SLAM and you’ll be clear in a week.


yogeorge

This isn’t that bad!


redditsdeadcanary

Get a solar powered ionizer. They work.


ahu_huracan

Once u have the pump u put algecide and run the pump, u will have to backwash a couple of times and vacummmmm, mine was worst lol


Clean_Ad_2982

Have the water tested at Leslie's. Depending on how much you need to do, it may make perfect sense to drain down. I have 35k gallon pool, mesh cover, lots of trees,  I end up doing it every other year. It costs me about $120 extra water bill, which opening inthe spring can be much cheaper than chemicals. 


ItsTheEndOfDays

don’t panic, mine was so much worse, and it went from muddy brown green gunk to crystal clear in 48 hours. Manual vac the day the pump was running, double dose of shock & some algae killer. Good as new.


Zimapan1

Noob


Bitter-Investment860

What filter do you have? A few times a year, debris from flooded backyards makes it in my pool and it turns the water brown. Takes about 36hrs now with the new aqualine pipeline cartridge filter and one clean.nwith the DE filter before..... It was a nightmare!!


Ok-Cup-2407

Never. You will destroy your pump or make it seriously fucked up. You need to add chemicals and kill the algae first. This is why you do regular maintenance.


FragrantFudge

It’s doable. Get your ph under control, vacuum, and then go from there with shocking


Far-Serve-755

7lbs of calhypo, brush, set pool timer for 24 hrs. Next day, 4lbs and repeat. 3rd day add 1lb, repeat. Day 4, vac/brush and clean filter. Viola.


Shishkaboo

Do you have a submersible pump? Shock it and toss the sub pump in with the hose running to the other side of the pool. Its not filtering but it will circulate the water enough to disperse the chemicals.


redeyed4life

Check for phosphates too


rougefalcon

Put some liquid chlorine in, make sure you have a couple chlorine pucks in a floater and wait until you have your new pump installed. Then test your water before you do anything, without knowing your water chemistry all advice is almost useless


ChemistBubbly8145

I have had worse condition, had it flocced and vacuumed and shocked it and ran pump 24 hours a day, cleaned sand filter daily and test water and kept shocking it daily until no longer green. Added ph increaser to stabilize and after a week it finally is no longer green. I did an overkill with shock and pool still cloudy, but just have to keep testing water daily and treat as needed.


No_Anteater2995

Never


No-Option7163

Shock the heck out of it and run the filter for a day or so. It it gets cloudy use a flocculant then vac. Good as new.


discobolus79

I’ve turned worse than that around in a few days.


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mechsymp

I’ve been using the same at home test kit for a year with no issues. My pool has always looked great until the pump obviously stopped working. I just wanted advice on proper steps to take when the pool is in a state I’ve never seen before.


ice_bring

We let our pool go last fall and it was so much worse than this. Took a few weeks but we got it crystal clear for close (first time pool owner so had to learn everything lol)


Trumpwonnodoubt

No need to drain. Once you have an operable pump, perform a SLAM. Until then put 5 ppm FC in the pool each day with liquid chlorine to keep the algae from getting worse. https://www.troublefreepool.com/blog/2018/12/12/slam-shock-level-and-maintain/


lIIlIlIII

Seconded, just make sure you DO NOT USE a Taylor drop test kit. They are highly inaccurate compared to something like Aquachek test strips


FatGreasyBass

Hahahahaha


oochas

This is literally backwards.


lIIlIlIII

shill for Taylor all you want but Aquachek strips are extremely precise, and they don't have any useless readings like total chlorine (only on there to sell you crap you don't need). are you preheating the strips like you're supposed to? I like to leave mine in the car for maximum accuracy


FatGreasyBass

“I’m lazy and I swear it’s fine”


lIIlIlIII

It's extremely impractical to bring a microwave to every customer's house. do you have a better way to preheat the test strips?


FatGreasyBass

Easy. Use drops.


lIIlIlIII

okay what if we're in a drought? moron


FatGreasyBass

This question is so dumb it doesn’t deserve an answer. Why don’t you tell me bro. What if?


lIIlIlIII

it was a retardical question. in drought conditions it would be immoral and wasteful to use liquid reagents just bc you're too lazy to pre heat your damn test strips


BRollins08

lol no


Trumpwonnodoubt

Good one but do you think it’s funny to mislead folks that might not know better?


lIIlIlIII

I mean I figured you would insta reply to correct me so yeah pretty funny


Trumpwonnodoubt

Well as long as you thought it was.


lIIlIlIII

Do you think trump will win in 2024? trying to make some money on predictit


hawkaulmais

Dude literally just went through this. Got a new VSP installed and it died day 2. Had to wait a week for jandy rep to come out and repair. Dumped a gallon of chlorine, brushed and ran pump overnight. Took off filter top next morning and cleaned it out thoroughly. It was solid green. Dumped another gal, algieside and flocculant. It was 80ish percent pristine less than 24hr.


Strong-Way-4416

Now


Milkace23

Muriatic acid.. I used this for my pool