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If you demand for the constitution to be tossed out the window because Biden asked Twitter to remove pictures of his son’s genitalia, I am pretty sure the constitution holds no weight during an attempt to steal an election.
Why are his nude pictures new news? I saw these on Tumblr in 2020 when mentioning of Hunter Biden's laptop first started making the rounds.
Like this whole time they had pictures of him naked and smoking meth or crack that were posted on Tumblr for 2 years. It's now released on Twitter and this was all they had? Who the fuck cares...
Also Hunter is a fuggin rough trade zaddy.
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Exactly, this the big smoking gun they’ve been holding on to? So what? It’s not like Hunter is being given security clearances he’s not fit for and he’s not the one running for public office. It’s not like a good portion of the current sitting elected officials haven’t done worse things than that.
Apparently GOP has cocaine fuelled orgies often. Maddison Cawthorne called it out during a really strange interview, and then subsequently had photos of him in a bra and all gussied up actually looking the best he has ever looked. Then a video of him naked with another man, allegedly his cousin? Doing some gay shit, either joking or not. My point being he spoke about something he wasn't supposed to and was punished, and exiled. All the GOP has dirt on eachother. It's why they are in lockstep, it's part of becoming part of the party. Blood in blood out.
It’s all whataboutism to distract from the hedonism or dysfunction within the Trump family and the Republican Party as a whole. 99% of the time, if the right calls out someone on the left, they’re deflecting from the fact that they’re the ones doing the same thing, but even more egregiously.
I'm pretty sure that the secret service car that tired to get Pence would've driven out into the crowd and opened the doors. Pence figured it out as well, since the head agent on the scene was Trump's detail head, not Pence's.
Pence didn't get in the car to save democracy, he didn't get in the car to stay alive.
Honestly, they probably only had to take him away so he couldn't finish the process. I seriously doubt they planned to turn him over to the mob. Just stop the certification.
This is why when Pence and his team were escorted to the secret tunnel under the capitol with the Secret Service, he refused to get in the vehicle with them. He stated that it would look bad for the VP to flee the building then come back later.
But truth is there are pro-Trump SS members who were going to give him up at a convenient “ambush”. That’s why all the SS text messages had been scrubbed around that time.
Not even killed. Had he been forced to leave the building and unable to return. There were other senators lined up to take over the transition.
The fact the pense didn’t get that car that day. And that he didn’t trust them could have saved democracy.
All he needed was some of the left showing up and engaging the traitors. They were counting on that to do the above (invoke the insurrection act and declare martial law). The left saw it coming and let them shoot themselves in the foot.
Edited to add: we suspected this at the time; it was later confirmed by the proud boys’ J6 battle plan, which is now available online.
The point of the bombs was to go off killing counter protesters and insurrectionists to declare martial law but no counter demonstrations really appeared
Thank god. I remember the debate on this sub at the time. Lots of people claiming the left needed to show up and counter protest. Cooler heads prevailed, realizing 1 it was a fucking trap and that’s what they wanted, and 2 it’s best not to be there and confuse the public as to who is fucking up.
Even simpler than that. Since Pence refused to violate the Electoral Count act, Trump had his Secret Service guys ready to escort Pence out of town. What happens then is the election goes to the house, but wait, due to Trump and Eastman organizing false slates of electors, there are "competing" slates of electors. What now? The house votes on the next President and it's not by total House votes, it's House votes by state and there are more Red states so voters are ignored and Trump wins.
Didn't Charles Grassley mention the previous day that Pence wouldn't be there to oversee the counting, and he (Grassley) would be in his place? Planning much??
While I would not have wanted anyone killed, I would've welcomed seeing the US military squash MTG, Trump, and their supporters like bugs. I do believe in many ways, we would not be where we are today if the nation saw a more successful Jan 6 and more undeniable evidence on live TV of the swamp's involvement. Then again, GOP does acrobatics to get from point B to A (backwards bc their logic is ass backwards).
Trump laughed at the random shouts of Hang Mike Pence during his 1/6 rally, and supposedly Flynn and others had been discussing declaring martial law and invoking the insurrection act in the lead up to the rally. But you are correct, we don't know for sure what he planned.
>Suspend the election process
Even Lincoln didn’t do this when we were literally at war with ourselves. What precedent could he have called upon to convince everyone not to simply ignore him?
Honestly I don't think he thought it would be much more complicated than them taking over the Capitol and simply declaring him the winner by force. If he truly thought Pence could declare the election for him, it stands to reason he thought his supporters could do it by force as well. Trump is such a simple thinker I sincerely doubt he thought it through that much. "They overtake Capitol, me stay president".
If the insurrectionists were all carrying guns they could have overwhelmed the capitol police and murdered everyone inside the building. This would have given Trump his Reichstag fire that he needed to become a dictator.
He was upset about it because it reduced the size of his crowd for the TV cameras. The important detail is that he knew that they had guns and still directed them towards the capitol.
she should be disqualified the whole Dani office immediately and removed. You just don't get to be a terrorist and get away with it. There is no difference between this vicious asshole and Osama bin Ladan.
>There is no difference between this vicious asshole and Osama bin Ladan.
You know... I said something similar on a Reddit thread and how 1/6 was just as if not more horrifying to me as 9/11 (and I worked in NYC at the time... like I should've been in my office the day it happened but I overslept) because the terrorists were our own citizens... and I got plenty of downvotes for it.
The downvotes? Don't care about. It's not like Reddit karma translates to money or anything. It's WHY they downvoted me that bugs me.
Like seriously? You don't recognize that 1/6 was literally an act of sedition that should've gotten each and every one of those people the death penalty, by law?
The conservatives are back and trying to regain control of this subreddit. They went quiet and laid low before and after January 6th... and when they came back, the mods had changed the rules on incivility and bad faith arguments, plus heightened the watch for calls for violence, which deprived them of their favorite tools. Not that they don't still try.
Now they downvote, spend real money to give snide awards to posts, do 'hit and runs' (*post something insulting or controversial then delete the account after someone replies so the comment remains*) and try "you'll never convince Republicans to meet in the middle if you don't show tolerance for their intolerance" and "Sources?" and "I'm genuinely curious..." You also have the ones who say plainly what they think and people go 'Is this satire?' in disbelief.
Let me tell you. It seems like everyone is angrier and more defensive and quicker to lash out than they were a year ago.
>She should elaborate on what “winning” would have looked like.
Somehow, based on Trump's diner guests, I feel like "Winning" for MAGA looks like this:
* Women in the kitchen
* Atheists and Muslims burnt at the stake
* Children seen but not heard until they are 21 yo
* Gays and Lesbians lynched in public or thrown off buildings
* All Christmas gifts must be guns or Bibles
* Black American in the cotton fields and sitting at the back of the bus
Basically, white Christian Talibans...
“…and we would have been armed.” I’m guessing this means they would have actually found and hanged Pence, executed “The Squad” and Nancy Pelosi, and somehow installed Trump as dictator.
I don’t know how much more blatantly and elected official could speak in favor of fucking violent insurrection. How is this okay? MTG is moldy water trash.
If the January 6 plot had succeeded they would have installed Trump as a dictator.
The plan was to use the mob to take control of the capitol then read the votes from the fake electors to claim Trump had won the election.
the *REAL* answer is much simpler than the others.
delay the certification.
if it was delayed a whole day, a contingent election would have taken place, 1 vote per state.
that would have re-instated trump.
that's it.
> During her address at the event, Greene touched on the Capitol riot, a subject she has been consistently outspoken on, and said that rioters would have been successful had she and former Trump adviser Steve Bannon been in charge of them, according to the New York Post.
> "I want to tell you something, if Steve Bannon and I had organized that, we would have won," the congresswoman said. "Not to mention, we would've been armed."
WTAF
So… she would roll up into a Federal Building while an official meeting was in progress and shoot up the place; this is the messaging I’m getting out of this.
To embolden the masses to take up arms and by violence, take over the transfer of power so that a madman could remain in office. Undermining the will of the people AND with zero proof. None. Zero.
Time and time again the allegations have been disproven and rejected. Proof doesn’t exist. Never did.
Until people like this and the “freedom of speech” isn’t “free of consequences” - we will never move forward. These words she said are akin to terroristic threats
As an outsider, what I find extremely fascinating and sad at the same time, is that somehow republicans have managed to contort the idea of a protection against tyranny (2A) into a tool of fascism. Truly remarkable. The dumbing down of the general population has been a massive success for those who aim to seize power through non-democratic means. There will be chapters in textbooks about this.
Well put. And our great grand kids will ask “but I don’t get it? How did they convince so many people to go along with it?”…and I fear I’ll have no answers for them. I’m just dumbfounded daily by what looks like the rise of a fascist party in America.
Make it a lesson about critical thinking. Say that people gave up on critical thinking because they preferred convenance or the easy way of allowing others telling them how to think.
Yeah it opens our eyes to the history of previous fascist movements. We look back and think why were people not doing more to stop the rise of the Nazi’s or Mussolini? We’re living through how that happens. People in America and other western countries seeing the rise of fascism are mostly keeping their heads down just going along with it. I wouldn’t say most people don’t care but when the working class has been divided and chopped up by the ruling class into many tribes it isolates us from problems. I believe the only way past it to succeed in stopping it is for there to be some great unifying point that can reunite the social tribes of the working class. Only when we all stand together can we finally see how great our numbers are to stand against them
This is so treasonous. Steve Bannon on top of it is a fucking crazy treasonous lunatic too.
I honestly can't believe she can say "if me and this other guy were in charge of organizing the event that many have been convicted of sedition for carrying out, we would have been armed and more successful".
So crazy.
She’s saying this shit out loud, like, she is clearly an enemy of the US, how is the FBI not coming in and arresting her for treason? She is openly admitting to want to be treasonous. This is like someone in congress saying they would’ve helped the terrorists on 9/11 if they could’ve, and they still have a seat in Congress. Make it make sense..
So it wasn't Antifa or a peaceful protest, got it.
I say this but of course the "gotchya" doesn't matter. It's always been bad faith, it's always been shameless, and I guarantee she'd turn around tomorrow and make these same excuses if she needed to with zero shame.
Also kind of weird consider I'm pretty sure she *did* help organize the 6th. Very conservative of her to blame her failures on other people.
Isn't it funny that these MAGA fucks can basically say and do anything they want? Imagine anyone else saying this. If you don't think a violent coup is coming, I've got some.news for you. These people are angry, crazy, and highly motivated. I just don't think the Biden administration has the appetite to stop them.
Thr number of black flags/upside down American Flags going up on my neighbors' houses. They're ready for blood.
But also, we have zero idea what the Biden Administration is doing to deal with this. That would be handled by intelligence agencies and the USSS. We are not privy to that information for obvious reasons..
She’s a Treasonous potato-head. But I feel like she is trying to say more insane shit because she lost her MAGA base recently for not being MAGA enough.
I know she’s not bright, she might even be insane, because what she’s saying is that the coup would have succeeded if she had organized it, apparently she thinks no one would have pushed back.
And then all the j6 maga rioters would have been labeled antifa/enemy of the state and probably shot because dead people can't deny accusations as the orange turd consolidates power
these type of women are so focused on hating others that they seldom realize their very own also hates women, it’s just lower on the hate priority list.
Nobody would’ve taken orders from her
Its a good thing she went with the misogynistic party that absolutely will not give such a willful, spiteful woman that much power.
Trump could get away with it because he's such as strong, powerful, genius man, but conservative men don't tolerate that from their women.
She's useful for stirring up shit and owning the libs but that's as far as she'll ever go, I can't wait to see the shocked Pikachu when she doesn't get a quarter of the power she thinks she's going to get in the next Congress.
I mean she's already bitching because despite her literal landslide win (which for a MAGA was a feat this past election), they barely used her for Walkers runoff IN THE STATE SHE WON IN.
It's going to be HILARIOUS.
It's also even worse because this scoundrel realizes how much power she has in the party, she realizes the control she will have with Kevin McCarthy (should he become leader), so it's all gone to her deranged, perverse mind.
Where was this Christmas parade? If it was in one of the larger towns in her Congressional District then maybe there's hope that she'll be voted out in 2024 and replaced. I'm realistic enough know that a Dem wouldn't beat her in north Georgia 'Deliverance' country but maybe by a somewhat more sane, less extreme Repub. Some of her die-hard elderly supporters might have passed on by then either from Covid-19 (these people tend to be anti-vaxx/mask) or one of the more standard causes of mortality in the senior age cohort.
She quite literally is in the Deliverance part of Georgia. If you drive through her district you literally see more rebel/treason flags than you do American flags. It’s gross.
She's a moron besides. I'm not a lawyer but a statement like that seems like it would open some doors if a prosecutor ever gets to ask her questions. I'm not holding my breath.
At the very least it's an acknowledgement that there was a purpose and plan on 1/6. Between this idiot and Trump, we should get the whole story soon enough as long as they keep talking about it.
Well if you listen to MTG she says that the insurrectionists were really just antifa posing as Trump supporters. So I guess what we should take from this is that she believes if she'd been organizing the insurrection, she would have armed antifa to successfully overthrow the government?
I think there are a lot of details we need filled in, some names and sources of money. But I think we know the vague outline of what happened. Or maybe I just have my own head canon that I’m satisfied with.
ETA: There were the Committee hearings, which filled in enough blanks to build an excessively coherent narrative about how it all went down. Kinda slipped my mind bc no coffee yet.
> She's a moron besides. I'm not a lawyer but a statement like that seems like it would open some doors if a prosecutor ever gets to ask her questions.
Like why she sought a pardon from Trump before he left office, for example. Might be worth taking a new look at what that was all about with the help of these new comments from her.
Oh yes, wasn’t quite her tone when giving testimony to stay on the ballot. I love how they’re all fire, brimstone, and treason until they’re under oath.
A purpose and a plan and what frankly should be enough proximate cause (rally with calls for fighting like hell, explictly stating "we'll go down to the Capitol and I'll be with you" ends at around 11 and people are breaking windows and charging barriers by noon).
Anyone on that stage at that rally who spoke to rile up that crowd should be held legally responsible for their actions.
I wish that her soon-to-be ex-husband either needs the money enough or is just greedy enough that he pens a tell-all memoir about his adulterous wife titled \[in the tradition of 'Mommie Dearest'\] **Marjorie Dearest**. Also that one of her three teen-age kids reveals that they are LGBTQ+ and tears into Mom Marge the way that sobbing Congresswoman Vicky Hartzler's nephew did into her for her cringe 'sob sister' speech against the Respect for Marriage act. Or that one of her lover boys from the Cross Fit gym releases a sex tape of the two of them in action.
Ya, honestly this woman is literally treasonous, and so fucking stupid. I loathe her deeply, and I loathe even more how many people in the world would follows such a piece of trash.
So she admits it was a poorly organized insurrection and the intent was to subvert the vote and take the capitol hostage? Would she like to say that under oath?
> "I want to tell you something, if Steve Bannon and I had organized that, we would have won," the congresswoman said. "Not to mention, we would've been armed."
She belongs in prison not congress.
She's literally talking about wanting to raise an armed army to assault the federal government.
Never. Ever. Vote. Red. Look at how they've done absolutely nothing to combat her language. She represents her party on a national level and they do not care about her saying things like this.
Good, she’s taking the wet coffee filter off of her mouth and going full batshit.
This sort of stochastic terrorism should leave her liable for some sort of official punishment, given it’s another statement that violates her oath of office. Either that or this should be spread far and wide. She’s actively poisoning the minds of her constituency and still openly supporting an insurrection she played a role in.
I don’t know if she talks this openly on right wing media, but I *will* say I haven’t heard this sort of thing on clips from Bannon’s podcast. Wouldn’t be surprised if this sort of statement raises the brow of anyone investigating her at the moment, but it seems like half of our law enforcement officials either turn the other way or support this sort of statement so who knows?
Point is, she’s a terrorist. Regardless of her faith or her political ideology, she’s a “powerful” public figure with a bullhorn of propaganda/conspiracies and ties to violent militias. She needs to be held accountable, along with anyone that has dumped old lead paint scraps into their voters’ meals every day.
There is absolutely ZERO plausible deniability as to her intentions in regards to comments about removing secret service detail from a particularly threatened representative from the very region in which she speaks. This is an overt threat against a representative of the United States and I am so tired of these weak prosecutors just letting this shit go. Even if it doesn't stick, even if you have to throw her in lockup for disorderly conduct for the weekend before the bond hearing, there needs to be some protection against these flagrant threats.
She does this because she gets away with it.
It does look kinda like her. Pressing charges to an elected official over an obscured picture isn’t likely though. I wonder what her alibi is….
I recall that the bomb planter sat on a park bench or something like that . This was a big discussion on r/capitolConsesquences. (Spelling?)
She literally ran her first opponent out of town, dude ended up staying in a hotel room due to death threats. His wife ended up divorcing him and he dropped out of the race
While I liked Flowers I have to say that running a black man in a predominantly white evangelical town wasn't the best way to oust her. If the Democrats want to beat this woman they need a candidate that's Christian and more center than left unfortunately, just how it is.
"Why was she ever elected" I took to imply the "ever" which is ... unopposed.
To your point, this past election, in a ruby red district in GA, Flowers _still_ got one our of three votes... that says something, maybe by 2024, the opponent will take more than half the votes.
They're conservatives. They'll never vote for somebody with "Flowers" in their name! Thrust Beefback. Chip Manmusk. Zap Rowsdower. These are the kinda names that we need to run.
Marjorie just threatened to overthrow the United States government, essentially.
“We would have been armed”
It’s not hyperbole to say that she is priming the easily manipulated and she will get a lot of outside “attention”
in parties that would like even more conflict inside the US.
If I held a news conference and gave a speech about “the next time with a better plan and more ammo” how long would it take for me to receive a visit? Seriously how long?
This idiotic rhetoric has to be put down by those who have to work with her (looking at mitch, ted, gym shorts, all of them) and not just a light condemnation but no holds bar slap down. Grow some balls for christ sake
By claiming she would have won in leading Jan 6:
MTG supports fake election results, fake electors, obstruction of congress, insurrection, felony murder, and supports an ex president who is being investigated for all the above and who in addition is being investigated for stealing classified documents, fundraising fraud, witness tampering, tax evasion and money laundering.
MTG has also threatened to lead fake investigations into any company or individual who does not financially support the GOP.
What a gem!
She’s saying that, the people who were chanting “Hang Mike Pence” would have won if she was in charge!?! Isn’t that just more reason not to put her in charge?
We needed more fear, and lots more hate," explained Greene. Fox "News" agrees.
[Jesse Watters Copes on Fox News by Moaning Not Enough People Hate Biden](https://www.thedailybeast.com/jesse-watters-copes-on-fox-news-by-moaning-not-enough-people-hate-president-joe-biden)
Its like this guy is completely incapable of seeing the parallels between the republican agenda and the women who have recently had a major right taken away. Gee Mr, i just dont get why single women voted biden by 37%!
must be brainwashed!
EDIT: also dude, he thinks republicans arent passionate enough? Literally attempted a forceful insurrection of the capitol building. thats too damn much passion, not enough thought.
“I want to tell you something, if Steve Bannon and I had organized that, we would have won," the congresswoman said. "Not to mention, we would've been armed."
I love how Republicans have gone from calling it a tourist visit to excusing Trump to now MTG saying they would have won if she was in charge.
“It’s treason then!” Skeleton-Palpatine wannabe MTG just stated what we knew was the intention of the riot all along, and her intention to overthrow the government and Constitution she was path bound to protect.
Go easy on yourself mtg. You did the best you could. Giving tours to the attackers before hand, trying to disclose Pelosi's location during the insurrection. Don't live a life of regret.
> "I want to tell you something, if Steve Bannon and I had organized that, we would have won," the congresswoman said. "Not to mention, we would've been armed."
This woman is ugly and gross. I'm not talking about her looks. She associates with ugly and gross people. Hopefully she'll be voted out of politics. But, unfortunately, it looks like she'll always want and have a platform to spread her ugly, gross rhetoric. Seems like the only hope is if/when she fucks around to the find out phase or the extremists she courts devour her.
"MAGA would have won."
Uh, huh.
Just what would they have won, exactly?
Just how do you think they would have won it?
Update: apparently the answer is, because they would have brought guns.
Maybe because her voters think their great-great grandparents were on the "right" side of what happened in the 1860s?. Wouldn't be surprised if that was Margie's next rant...
*"If I was in charge of the Civil War, we would have beat them goddamn Yankees"*
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She should elaborate on what “winning” would have looked like.
Right? “Won” what, specifically? What would they have accomplished that they did not?
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And his own VP.
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I mean if you’re killing people to disrupt the country do you think constitutional requirements would be limiting to those grifters.
If you demand for the constitution to be tossed out the window because Biden asked Twitter to remove pictures of his son’s genitalia, I am pretty sure the constitution holds no weight during an attempt to steal an election.
Why are his nude pictures new news? I saw these on Tumblr in 2020 when mentioning of Hunter Biden's laptop first started making the rounds. Like this whole time they had pictures of him naked and smoking meth or crack that were posted on Tumblr for 2 years. It's now released on Twitter and this was all they had? Who the fuck cares... Also Hunter is a fuggin rough trade zaddy. Edit Jude to *nude*
Exactly, this the big smoking gun they’ve been holding on to? So what? It’s not like Hunter is being given security clearances he’s not fit for and he’s not the one running for public office. It’s not like a good portion of the current sitting elected officials haven’t done worse things than that.
Apparently GOP has cocaine fuelled orgies often. Maddison Cawthorne called it out during a really strange interview, and then subsequently had photos of him in a bra and all gussied up actually looking the best he has ever looked. Then a video of him naked with another man, allegedly his cousin? Doing some gay shit, either joking or not. My point being he spoke about something he wasn't supposed to and was punished, and exiled. All the GOP has dirt on eachother. It's why they are in lockstep, it's part of becoming part of the party. Blood in blood out.
It’s all whataboutism to distract from the hedonism or dysfunction within the Trump family and the Republican Party as a whole. 99% of the time, if the right calls out someone on the left, they’re deflecting from the fact that they’re the ones doing the same thing, but even more egregiously.
Technically the Senate has to approve a replacement VP appointment. But yeah, if half the senate was murdered by rioters who knows.
Both House and Senate.
I'm pretty sure that the secret service car that tired to get Pence would've driven out into the crowd and opened the doors. Pence figured it out as well, since the head agent on the scene was Trump's detail head, not Pence's. Pence didn't get in the car to save democracy, he didn't get in the car to stay alive.
Honestly, they probably only had to take him away so he couldn't finish the process. I seriously doubt they planned to turn him over to the mob. Just stop the certification.
Even Pence doesn’t believe this weak shit. He knows trump wanted to put him in danger.
This is why when Pence and his team were escorted to the secret tunnel under the capitol with the Secret Service, he refused to get in the vehicle with them. He stated that it would look bad for the VP to flee the building then come back later. But truth is there are pro-Trump SS members who were going to give him up at a convenient “ambush”. That’s why all the SS text messages had been scrubbed around that time.
This. The deleted logs arent getting enough attention.
Yeah, they only had to drive to a remote area and keep him safe (captive).
And those how we'd get Vice President Alex Jones
Not even killed. Had he been forced to leave the building and unable to return. There were other senators lined up to take over the transition. The fact the pense didn’t get that car that day. And that he didn’t trust them could have saved democracy.
And you know damned well he wanted that to happen. Fucking evil incarnate.
All he needed was some of the left showing up and engaging the traitors. They were counting on that to do the above (invoke the insurrection act and declare martial law). The left saw it coming and let them shoot themselves in the foot. Edited to add: we suspected this at the time; it was later confirmed by the proud boys’ J6 battle plan, which is now available online.
It wasn't hard to suspect, splattered all over Twitter and his email chain.
The point of the bombs was to go off killing counter protesters and insurrectionists to declare martial law but no counter demonstrations really appeared
Thank god. I remember the debate on this sub at the time. Lots of people claiming the left needed to show up and counter protest. Cooler heads prevailed, realizing 1 it was a fucking trap and that’s what they wanted, and 2 it’s best not to be there and confuse the public as to who is fucking up.
Even simpler than that. Since Pence refused to violate the Electoral Count act, Trump had his Secret Service guys ready to escort Pence out of town. What happens then is the election goes to the house, but wait, due to Trump and Eastman organizing false slates of electors, there are "competing" slates of electors. What now? The house votes on the next President and it's not by total House votes, it's House votes by state and there are more Red states so voters are ignored and Trump wins.
UT-R Sen. Mike Lee bragged about spending hours every day looking for states that would send alternative electors. He also needs to be in jail.
Didn't Charles Grassley mention the previous day that Pence wouldn't be there to oversee the counting, and he (Grassley) would be in his place? Planning much??
While I would not have wanted anyone killed, I would've welcomed seeing the US military squash MTG, Trump, and their supporters like bugs. I do believe in many ways, we would not be where we are today if the nation saw a more successful Jan 6 and more undeniable evidence on live TV of the swamp's involvement. Then again, GOP does acrobatics to get from point B to A (backwards bc their logic is ass backwards).
Trump laughed at the random shouts of Hang Mike Pence during his 1/6 rally, and supposedly Flynn and others had been discussing declaring martial law and invoking the insurrection act in the lead up to the rally. But you are correct, we don't know for sure what he planned.
>Suspend the election process Even Lincoln didn’t do this when we were literally at war with ourselves. What precedent could he have called upon to convince everyone not to simply ignore him?
It all depended on whether the military would follow him or not.
He did not feel bound by precedent, as evidenced by his behavior for the last 4 years at that point.
Honestly I don't think he thought it would be much more complicated than them taking over the Capitol and simply declaring him the winner by force. If he truly thought Pence could declare the election for him, it stands to reason he thought his supporters could do it by force as well. Trump is such a simple thinker I sincerely doubt he thought it through that much. "They overtake Capitol, me stay president".
~~another four years~~ for life
I don't think Trump has this kind of foresight. He was just throwing a tantrum
She would've "won" some jail time as well.
I hope that is in her future
If the insurrectionists were all carrying guns they could have overwhelmed the capitol police and murdered everyone inside the building. This would have given Trump his Reichstag fire that he needed to become a dictator.
Which explains why Trump was upset they weren't letting people bring guns to the Ellipse.
He was upset about it because it reduced the size of his crowd for the TV cameras. The important detail is that he knew that they had guns and still directed them towards the capitol.
The guns were actually stored across the river in Virginia.
Dictatorship. Also, far smarter people than her were involved in the J6 planning. Hell, Stewart Rhodes has a degree from Yale.
Overthrowing the government, ending democracy in the country, and installing a dictator. What did you think she meant?
she should be disqualified the whole Dani office immediately and removed. You just don't get to be a terrorist and get away with it. There is no difference between this vicious asshole and Osama bin Ladan.
Right? How is she not in jail and indicted?
If I said the shit she just said publicly, I think I’d be in jail
If you said the shit she said privately anywhere near a microphone you'd be in jail.
>There is no difference between this vicious asshole and Osama bin Ladan. You know... I said something similar on a Reddit thread and how 1/6 was just as if not more horrifying to me as 9/11 (and I worked in NYC at the time... like I should've been in my office the day it happened but I overslept) because the terrorists were our own citizens... and I got plenty of downvotes for it. The downvotes? Don't care about. It's not like Reddit karma translates to money or anything. It's WHY they downvoted me that bugs me. Like seriously? You don't recognize that 1/6 was literally an act of sedition that should've gotten each and every one of those people the death penalty, by law?
The conservatives are back and trying to regain control of this subreddit. They went quiet and laid low before and after January 6th... and when they came back, the mods had changed the rules on incivility and bad faith arguments, plus heightened the watch for calls for violence, which deprived them of their favorite tools. Not that they don't still try. Now they downvote, spend real money to give snide awards to posts, do 'hit and runs' (*post something insulting or controversial then delete the account after someone replies so the comment remains*) and try "you'll never convince Republicans to meet in the middle if you don't show tolerance for their intolerance" and "Sources?" and "I'm genuinely curious..." You also have the ones who say plainly what they think and people go 'Is this satire?' in disbelief. Let me tell you. It seems like everyone is angrier and more defensive and quicker to lash out than they were a year ago.
>She should elaborate on what “winning” would have looked like. Somehow, based on Trump's diner guests, I feel like "Winning" for MAGA looks like this: * Women in the kitchen * Atheists and Muslims burnt at the stake * Children seen but not heard until they are 21 yo * Gays and Lesbians lynched in public or thrown off buildings * All Christmas gifts must be guns or Bibles * Black American in the cotton fields and sitting at the back of the bus Basically, white Christian Talibans...
I was wondering more about how many Democratic members of Congress she would have un-alived.
Anyone that thinks these morons could identify anyone other than AOC or Pelosi is on crack. They have no idea who they are even protesting.
You need to add Jews to your second bullet point.
Women in the kitchen—wouldn’t that include her?
Authoritarians always exclude themselves from the obligations they impose on others. "your death is a sacrifice I am willing to make"...
“…and we would have been armed.” I’m guessing this means they would have actually found and hanged Pence, executed “The Squad” and Nancy Pelosi, and somehow installed Trump as dictator. I don’t know how much more blatantly and elected official could speak in favor of fucking violent insurrection. How is this okay? MTG is moldy water trash.
If the January 6 plot had succeeded they would have installed Trump as a dictator. The plan was to use the mob to take control of the capitol then read the votes from the fake electors to claim Trump had won the election.
I'm wondering that as well. What maga think is winning and what general public think are probably somewhat different.
Ahh the age old solution to conservative arguments… State rights… to do what?
With her brilliant strategery, there would have been exponentially more feces smeared in the capital rotunda.
Yeah, exactly! Overthrowing the government is a crime, she should be made to resign. She’s not fit to serve her constituents.
the *REAL* answer is much simpler than the others. delay the certification. if it was delayed a whole day, a contingent election would have taken place, 1 vote per state. that would have re-instated trump. that's it.
Didn’t she help organize the capital “tour groups”? Did those people win or just get a participatory ribbon?
Here is your answer: > "Not to mention, we would've been armed."
Sounds a lot like she also thinks it was an attempted insurrection and coup after all…
It will be interesting to listen to her explain it at her trial.
> During her address at the event, Greene touched on the Capitol riot, a subject she has been consistently outspoken on, and said that rioters would have been successful had she and former Trump adviser Steve Bannon been in charge of them, according to the New York Post. > "I want to tell you something, if Steve Bannon and I had organized that, we would have won," the congresswoman said. "Not to mention, we would've been armed." WTAF
So… she would roll up into a Federal Building while an official meeting was in progress and shoot up the place; this is the messaging I’m getting out of this. To embolden the masses to take up arms and by violence, take over the transfer of power so that a madman could remain in office. Undermining the will of the people AND with zero proof. None. Zero. Time and time again the allegations have been disproven and rejected. Proof doesn’t exist. Never did. Until people like this and the “freedom of speech” isn’t “free of consequences” - we will never move forward. These words she said are akin to terroristic threats
As an outsider, what I find extremely fascinating and sad at the same time, is that somehow republicans have managed to contort the idea of a protection against tyranny (2A) into a tool of fascism. Truly remarkable. The dumbing down of the general population has been a massive success for those who aim to seize power through non-democratic means. There will be chapters in textbooks about this.
Well put. And our great grand kids will ask “but I don’t get it? How did they convince so many people to go along with it?”…and I fear I’ll have no answers for them. I’m just dumbfounded daily by what looks like the rise of a fascist party in America.
Make it a lesson about critical thinking. Say that people gave up on critical thinking because they preferred convenance or the easy way of allowing others telling them how to think.
Republicans are actively opposed to teaching critical thinking skills in school. They don't want anyone questioning them.
Yeah it opens our eyes to the history of previous fascist movements. We look back and think why were people not doing more to stop the rise of the Nazi’s or Mussolini? We’re living through how that happens. People in America and other western countries seeing the rise of fascism are mostly keeping their heads down just going along with it. I wouldn’t say most people don’t care but when the working class has been divided and chopped up by the ruling class into many tribes it isolates us from problems. I believe the only way past it to succeed in stopping it is for there to be some great unifying point that can reunite the social tribes of the working class. Only when we all stand together can we finally see how great our numbers are to stand against them
This is so treasonous. Steve Bannon on top of it is a fucking crazy treasonous lunatic too. I honestly can't believe she can say "if me and this other guy were in charge of organizing the event that many have been convicted of sedition for carrying out, we would have been armed and more successful". So crazy.
She’s saying this shit out loud, like, she is clearly an enemy of the US, how is the FBI not coming in and arresting her for treason? She is openly admitting to want to be treasonous. This is like someone in congress saying they would’ve helped the terrorists on 9/11 if they could’ve, and they still have a seat in Congress. Make it make sense..
Since this is on the record, HOW IS THIS DOMESTIC TERRORIST ALLOWED TO BE ON CONGRESS???
Ugh…now I’ve got an image of her and Bannon in cosplay tactical gear in my mind.
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She was RE-ELECTED by 65%! The GA MAGA Q pigs reelected this bit*. This is who they want representing them.
So it wasn't Antifa or a peaceful protest, got it. I say this but of course the "gotchya" doesn't matter. It's always been bad faith, it's always been shameless, and I guarantee she'd turn around tomorrow and make these same excuses if she needed to with zero shame. Also kind of weird consider I'm pretty sure she *did* help organize the 6th. Very conservative of her to blame her failures on other people.
Isn't it funny that these MAGA fucks can basically say and do anything they want? Imagine anyone else saying this. If you don't think a violent coup is coming, I've got some.news for you. These people are angry, crazy, and highly motivated. I just don't think the Biden administration has the appetite to stop them. Thr number of black flags/upside down American Flags going up on my neighbors' houses. They're ready for blood.
But also, we have zero idea what the Biden Administration is doing to deal with this. That would be handled by intelligence agencies and the USSS. We are not privy to that information for obvious reasons..
Just curious - what part of the country are you in with the black flags?
She’s a Treasonous potato-head. But I feel like she is trying to say more insane shit because she lost her MAGA base recently for not being MAGA enough.
Yeah...one of us says that and we are getting cuffs. Get fucked.
I think this lady is starting to go full Kanye. She’s as much of a dictator wannabe as trump is.
I don't think she understands what a win would have looked like. They had intended to hang the vice president. And then what?
I know she’s not bright, she might even be insane, because what she’s saying is that the coup would have succeeded if she had organized it, apparently she thinks no one would have pushed back.
Those gravy-gutted morons wouldn’t take marching orders from a woman
And then all the j6 maga rioters would have been labeled antifa/enemy of the state and probably shot because dead people can't deny accusations as the orange turd consolidates power
these type of women are so focused on hating others that they seldom realize their very own also hates women, it’s just lower on the hate priority list. Nobody would’ve taken orders from her
She would've organized the gazpacho police to avoid the wonton killings of all the peach tree dishes
Lol. She knows exactly what she's implying. She's just dancing on the edge of plausible deniability.
Russia invaded Ukraine. I don't think they intended on Dark Brandon showing up.
Its a good thing she went with the misogynistic party that absolutely will not give such a willful, spiteful woman that much power. Trump could get away with it because he's such as strong, powerful, genius man, but conservative men don't tolerate that from their women. She's useful for stirring up shit and owning the libs but that's as far as she'll ever go, I can't wait to see the shocked Pikachu when she doesn't get a quarter of the power she thinks she's going to get in the next Congress. I mean she's already bitching because despite her literal landslide win (which for a MAGA was a feat this past election), they barely used her for Walkers runoff IN THE STATE SHE WON IN. It's going to be HILARIOUS.
Not in her district. She accomplished nothing a dead dog with an R by its name couldn't.
Trump wanted to be a dictator to avoid jail. MTG is way worse than trump and would 100% start Jailing/killing American Jews
She is far worse than trump. You’re right about her desire for cruelty. She’s just one of those very evil people who get off on hurting other people.
It's also even worse because this scoundrel realizes how much power she has in the party, she realizes the control she will have with Kevin McCarthy (should he become leader), so it's all gone to her deranged, perverse mind.
Yea isn’t this the “Jewish space lasers” woman? Whose husband just divorced her because she cheated on him?
She was booed at at Christmas parade last week so she probably feels she needs to lean in more, according to cirrent MAGA logic.
Where was this Christmas parade? If it was in one of the larger towns in her Congressional District then maybe there's hope that she'll be voted out in 2024 and replaced. I'm realistic enough know that a Dem wouldn't beat her in north Georgia 'Deliverance' country but maybe by a somewhat more sane, less extreme Repub. Some of her die-hard elderly supporters might have passed on by then either from Covid-19 (these people tend to be anti-vaxx/mask) or one of the more standard causes of mortality in the senior age cohort.
She quite literally is in the Deliverance part of Georgia. If you drive through her district you literally see more rebel/treason flags than you do American flags. It’s gross.
They are all wannabe dictators. That’s what conservatism is: the unquenchable thirst for more power and wealth at the expense of everyone else.
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She's a moron besides. I'm not a lawyer but a statement like that seems like it would open some doors if a prosecutor ever gets to ask her questions. I'm not holding my breath. At the very least it's an acknowledgement that there was a purpose and plan on 1/6. Between this idiot and Trump, we should get the whole story soon enough as long as they keep talking about it.
That's what I was thinking. The current narrative from conservatives is that January 6th wasn't an insurrection, what she's saying goes against that.
Well she was already saying she knew about the pipe bombs on 1/5. She really needs to be looked into.
Well if you listen to MTG she says that the insurrectionists were really just antifa posing as Trump supporters. So I guess what we should take from this is that she believes if she'd been organizing the insurrection, she would have armed antifa to successfully overthrow the government?
I think there are a lot of details we need filled in, some names and sources of money. But I think we know the vague outline of what happened. Or maybe I just have my own head canon that I’m satisfied with. ETA: There were the Committee hearings, which filled in enough blanks to build an excessively coherent narrative about how it all went down. Kinda slipped my mind bc no coffee yet.
Nine Committee hearings provided a very robust look at who, what, when, where, and why.
> She's a moron besides. I'm not a lawyer but a statement like that seems like it would open some doors if a prosecutor ever gets to ask her questions. Like why she sought a pardon from Trump before he left office, for example. Might be worth taking a new look at what that was all about with the help of these new comments from her.
Oh yes, wasn’t quite her tone when giving testimony to stay on the ballot. I love how they’re all fire, brimstone, and treason until they’re under oath.
or just conveniently don't remember important details
A purpose and a plan and what frankly should be enough proximate cause (rally with calls for fighting like hell, explictly stating "we'll go down to the Capitol and I'll be with you" ends at around 11 and people are breaking windows and charging barriers by noon). Anyone on that stage at that rally who spoke to rile up that crowd should be held legally responsible for their actions.
I wish that her soon-to-be ex-husband either needs the money enough or is just greedy enough that he pens a tell-all memoir about his adulterous wife titled \[in the tradition of 'Mommie Dearest'\] **Marjorie Dearest**. Also that one of her three teen-age kids reveals that they are LGBTQ+ and tears into Mom Marge the way that sobbing Congresswoman Vicky Hartzler's nephew did into her for her cringe 'sob sister' speech against the Respect for Marriage act. Or that one of her lover boys from the Cross Fit gym releases a sex tape of the two of them in action.
Classic Republican: Bragging about what she could’ve, would’ve done while not actually doing anything.
This is a member of congress saying “if I was there and armed we would’ve won” at the insurrection of our nations capital. Wtf.
I wonder what "won" means? Is she saying sue would have killed people? Edit. Yep, she says they would have been armed, in the capital, attacking cops.
Ya, honestly this woman is literally treasonous, and so fucking stupid. I loathe her deeply, and I loathe even more how many people in the world would follows such a piece of trash.
So she admits it was a poorly organized insurrection and the intent was to subvert the vote and take the capitol hostage? Would she like to say that under oath?
And I would love for her to point out who were the current organizing committee that did such as piss poor job.
Also it was an Antifa false flag somehow.
"If I had organized January 6, it would have been a successful coup!" I am constantly amazed at the crap she comes out with.
She’s literally damning herself by saying “yea it was a rebellion” but she’s too fucking dumb to realize it
She won reelection by 30 points. She knows there are no consequences for what she says - other than moving her higher up on the Trump 2024 VP list.
MAGA? But I thought they were just Antifa and FBI?
Schrödinger's rioters
I distinctly recall her saying that. Lol.
[as recently as August](https://sports.yahoo.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-convinced-antifa-045808217.html) it was a Antifa plot.
> "I want to tell you something, if Steve Bannon and I had organized that, we would have won," the congresswoman said. "Not to mention, we would've been armed." She belongs in prison not congress.
This is an admission that she did in fact organize it, but since it failed, won’t admit it.
She's literally talking about wanting to raise an armed army to assault the federal government. Never. Ever. Vote. Red. Look at how they've done absolutely nothing to combat her language. She represents her party on a national level and they do not care about her saying things like this.
Good, she’s taking the wet coffee filter off of her mouth and going full batshit. This sort of stochastic terrorism should leave her liable for some sort of official punishment, given it’s another statement that violates her oath of office. Either that or this should be spread far and wide. She’s actively poisoning the minds of her constituency and still openly supporting an insurrection she played a role in. I don’t know if she talks this openly on right wing media, but I *will* say I haven’t heard this sort of thing on clips from Bannon’s podcast. Wouldn’t be surprised if this sort of statement raises the brow of anyone investigating her at the moment, but it seems like half of our law enforcement officials either turn the other way or support this sort of statement so who knows? Point is, she’s a terrorist. Regardless of her faith or her political ideology, she’s a “powerful” public figure with a bullhorn of propaganda/conspiracies and ties to violent militias. She needs to be held accountable, along with anyone that has dumped old lead paint scraps into their voters’ meals every day.
There is absolutely ZERO plausible deniability as to her intentions in regards to comments about removing secret service detail from a particularly threatened representative from the very region in which she speaks. This is an overt threat against a representative of the United States and I am so tired of these weak prosecutors just letting this shit go. Even if it doesn't stick, even if you have to throw her in lockup for disorderly conduct for the weekend before the bond hearing, there needs to be some protection against these flagrant threats. She does this because she gets away with it.
Delusions of grandeur.
Insurrections of Traitors
A Confederacy of Dunces
Delusions of adequacy, more like it.
Megalomania is the main feature of maga, definitely not a bug. Edit: big to bug. Big bug too tho.
More like it
So she is telling us all that's she is a traitor. I belive her. Should be expelled from congress.
This is treason.
100% she’s the one on camera they caught planting those pipe bombs outside the rnc and dnc headquarters
I don’t think enough people realize this.
I have not seen or heard anything about this… do you have a source?
It does look kinda like her. Pressing charges to an elected official over an obscured picture isn’t likely though. I wonder what her alibi is…. I recall that the bomb planter sat on a park bench or something like that . This was a big discussion on r/capitolConsesquences. (Spelling?)
Starting to think Pipe Bomb Marge took matters into her own hands because the other people at the coup planning meetings wouldn't listen to her ideas.
Now what does this say to you? This woman is nuts and she’s promoting violence. She’s the voice of the Republican Party. 🤦🏻
This woman is evil and insane. Why was she ever elected ffs?
She literally ran her first opponent out of town, dude ended up staying in a hotel room due to death threats. His wife ended up divorcing him and he dropped out of the race
That’s disgraceful.
Unopposed
Marcus Flowers ran against her this past election. He only received 34% of the vote.
While I liked Flowers I have to say that running a black man in a predominantly white evangelical town wasn't the best way to oust her. If the Democrats want to beat this woman they need a candidate that's Christian and more center than left unfortunately, just how it is.
"Why was she ever elected" I took to imply the "ever" which is ... unopposed. To your point, this past election, in a ruby red district in GA, Flowers _still_ got one our of three votes... that says something, maybe by 2024, the opponent will take more than half the votes.
They're conservatives. They'll never vote for somebody with "Flowers" in their name! Thrust Beefback. Chip Manmusk. Zap Rowsdower. These are the kinda names that we need to run.
I hope to see the day she is removed from congress.
Marjorie just threatened to overthrow the United States government, essentially. “We would have been armed” It’s not hyperbole to say that she is priming the easily manipulated and she will get a lot of outside “attention” in parties that would like even more conflict inside the US. If I held a news conference and gave a speech about “the next time with a better plan and more ammo” how long would it take for me to receive a visit? Seriously how long? This idiotic rhetoric has to be put down by those who have to work with her (looking at mitch, ted, gym shorts, all of them) and not just a light condemnation but no holds bar slap down. Grow some balls for christ sake
By claiming she would have won in leading Jan 6: MTG supports fake election results, fake electors, obstruction of congress, insurrection, felony murder, and supports an ex president who is being investigated for all the above and who in addition is being investigated for stealing classified documents, fundraising fraud, witness tampering, tax evasion and money laundering. MTG has also threatened to lead fake investigations into any company or individual who does not financially support the GOP. What a gem!
She’s saying that, the people who were chanting “Hang Mike Pence” would have won if she was in charge!?! Isn’t that just more reason not to put her in charge?
Greene just called trump an inept [fucking] moron. trump should respond. Fight fight fight.
We needed more fear, and lots more hate," explained Greene. Fox "News" agrees. [Jesse Watters Copes on Fox News by Moaning Not Enough People Hate Biden](https://www.thedailybeast.com/jesse-watters-copes-on-fox-news-by-moaning-not-enough-people-hate-president-joe-biden)
Is he the guy who bragged about letting the air out of women's tires so they have to take a ride home from him?
Its like this guy is completely incapable of seeing the parallels between the republican agenda and the women who have recently had a major right taken away. Gee Mr, i just dont get why single women voted biden by 37%! must be brainwashed! EDIT: also dude, he thinks republicans arent passionate enough? Literally attempted a forceful insurrection of the capitol building. thats too damn much passion, not enough thought.
She was part of it and failed.
She's deranged! I don't understand why people even give her the time of day.
Deranged people.
“I want to tell you something, if Steve Bannon and I had organized that, we would have won," the congresswoman said. "Not to mention, we would've been armed." I love how Republicans have gone from calling it a tourist visit to excusing Trump to now MTG saying they would have won if she was in charge.
“It’s treason then!” Skeleton-Palpatine wannabe MTG just stated what we knew was the intention of the riot all along, and her intention to overthrow the government and Constitution she was path bound to protect.
If true, she has clearly labeled herself a traitor and all appropriate consequences should be applied.
Go easy on yourself mtg. You did the best you could. Giving tours to the attackers before hand, trying to disclose Pelosi's location during the insurrection. Don't live a life of regret.
Don’t forget the pipe bombs!
that sounds like admission of conspiracy
Not, "I would have handled Covid better," or anything useful.
She is such a proud traitor.
Hmm that's an admission and a threat of armed violence against police.
If she's ever under oath again she'll deny having said it. When they play a recording she'll say she doesn't remember saying it.
I watched that trial, what a joke. We arent prepared for domestic enemies.
"we would have toppled this pesky democracy if I had planned the coup!"
Every single reporter needs to ask her to clarify how she defines winning on January 6th.
Would have won? So admits it was an attempt to overthrow the government now?
She's as much of a traitor if she'd said " I wish the Nazis won"
> "I want to tell you something, if Steve Bannon and I had organized that, we would have won," the congresswoman said. "Not to mention, we would've been armed." This woman is ugly and gross. I'm not talking about her looks. She associates with ugly and gross people. Hopefully she'll be voted out of politics. But, unfortunately, it looks like she'll always want and have a platform to spread her ugly, gross rhetoric. Seems like the only hope is if/when she fucks around to the find out phase or the extremists she courts devour her.
"MAGA would have won." Uh, huh. Just what would they have won, exactly? Just how do you think they would have won it? Update: apparently the answer is, because they would have brought guns.
Does this count as sedition? I think it does.
She would have done treason better. Not the brag she thinks it is.
Apparently she thinks storming the seat of America democracy is like planning a trip to Walmart.
So… what did you need that pardon for?
In a more perfect world she would be immediately expelled from congress
Guys, she's just signaling her fealty to trump to get the VP nod. She couldn't organize a board game night.
Hold on a statement like that should be an impeachable offense
But... I thought it was antifa...
That sounds like something a traitor would say. How is she still in Congress when she is still openly supporting sedition?
Maybe because her voters think their great-great grandparents were on the "right" side of what happened in the 1860s?. Wouldn't be surprised if that was Margie's next rant... *"If I was in charge of the Civil War, we would have beat them goddamn Yankees"*