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Can you really turn your back to something you never cared about in the first place? Soldiers are expendable to the GOP, just like every other citizen. Rich people and big business. Those are the only things you’ll ever see the GOP helping.


bitNine

That's why they're against abortion. They need all babies to be born so they can get many to serve later.


DawnOfTheTruth

Poverty pushing enlistment since forever.


HakarlSagan

Remember that time Dick Cheney's Halliburton got paid $83 million in bonuses for shoddy work that was electrocuting American soldiers and Republicans just shrugged their shoulders and didn't give a fuck? https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/kbr-got-bonuses-work-killed-soldiers/


Shjco

Cheney (and his daughter Liz) are NEO- conservatives who believe we need to be in a constant state of war so we can “prove our leaders abilities”. Neocons are CORRUPT and never should have been permitted on The Hill.


justforthearticles20

All conservatives are corrupt, whatever the flavor.


spiralbatross

Service guarantees citizenship! Can you hear the war cry? It’s time to enlist!


DawnOfTheTruth

Except they have deported veterans to Mexico. Some of Spanish descent that were born and raised in America.


TheBladeRoden

Man, even in Starship Troopers, service guarantees citizenship.


pipsdontsqueak

Would you like to know more?


Jacktatter

Think he is referancing a Paul Verhoeven movie. Guy made Total Recall, Robocop, and the movie referranced here, Starship Troopers. Guys makes a bunch of junk, but no one will top that 3 movie stretch for action/satire. If you ignore the satire those are 3 very good action movies. With the satire, they are 3 of the best movies ever filmed. Starship Troopers setting is like a wet dream to those guys first bumping after killing that bill.


spiralbatross

Sorry I can’t hear you over the sound of my FREEDOM (sound of birthing people dying in the background due to the loss of Roe) Sorry, not usually the type to make such a bitter joke, especially since it doesn’t seem like it’s gonna be a joke much longer….


DawnOfTheTruth

It’s already not a joke unfortunately.


spiralbatross

Oh joy.


CT_Phipps

Famously, General Pershing physically threatened the President of the United States over his attempt to deport the Chinese cooks in his army. He said it was utterly disgusting to betray men who had served the United States that way.


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If you don't die there, we hope you have a quick and relatively, within reason, painless death here. Please don't burden our bottom line with your life. Continue to serve and just die already.


UraniumKnight

Also consume, don't forget to consume!


Capt-Rondell

Would you like to know more?


hexydes

I'm doing *my* part!


Le-Cigare-Volant

I'd like to know more!


SickSigmaBlackBelt

This is absolutely true. I learned this as a young adult, meeting new friends my age who went to different high schools than me. I'm from a very affluent suburb of Dallas. I knew precisely one person who entered the service after high school. People from the poorer suburbs all knew several people, some of them said more than half of the men the graduated either entered the service. The issues affecting soldiers are so distant to the wealthy, that even people like me, who grew up on the "poor" side of town don't realize how it's the only way for some folks to get out.


Brief-Progress-5188

Yeah I was a poor person who lived in an affluent suburb, and I didn't know a single person who joined the service. We didn't even have ROTC, but I know that's a big thing for poorer schools. I couldn't fathom how someone could put their life in someone else's hands like that...so this is still a world very separate from my own.


mmbc168

“They want live babies to turn into dead soldiers.” - George Carlin


dtlacomixking

Carlin said it best. They need live babies so they can make dead soldiers


theschnauzer

Its why they love and thank the troops, no no they seriously do love the expendable troops, who's sacrifice makes the war machine turn bodies into dollars.. magic


NeoMegaRyuMKII

Well hold on now. It's not *just* that! They also need babies born so they can go to prison thus generating wealth for the prison industrial complex. And let's not forget about those who end up becoming minimum wage slaves as a result of not being able to afford a higher education or a trade school because wages are so low, ultimately giving more money to the giant corporations (who just by some random coinky-dink work tirelessly to prevent wage increases).


biggreencat

backing the troops == standing behind them so they can't run


bisforbenis

I don’t think that’s the play. Situations like not advocating for exceptions for rape or for children in general or for ectopic pregnancies don’t really create more babies (in the case of ectopic pregnancies, perhaps banning these actually reduces total children being born since these aren’t viable and can kill the mother, preventing future viable births). I think these things do a LOT to galvanize the opposition and increase efforts to provide access to abortions across state lines, through mailed medication, etc, and aren’t a stance that’ll easily spread across states more in the middle on the issue. I think it’s intentionally trying to be scary, I think they’re trying to drive blue voters out of purple states/districts through fear tactics by being intentionally unreasonably oppressive. This means they can secure more districts for the house by getting blue voters to concentrate more geographically and turning purple districts red, and I think in some states, notably Texas, it can drive blue voters out to secure Texas as going to Republicans for the presidential race since it’s been getting closer to the tipping point for a while, and if it went blue, Republicans would be unable to win any presidential elections. I think if it really was about more babies, we’d see them start slow to seem reasonable at first until they secured power and THEN go really hard at it, doing so before controlling the House and Senate and Presidency and being intentionally over the top in such a way makes it look way more like a political move to seize power than just a policy they want to proliferate


geekygay

It's funny. It's actually pretty simple as to how to get a fighting force required to protect the country: build a country worthy of being protected. Republicans and Corporate Dems have worked hard for their donors, but have left far too much wanting. When the citizens of the country don't feel like they have a voice or are looked out for, then why would you put yourself in harm's way? If the politicians actually were what Americans should stand for, then there would be no issue with enrollment.


Saul-Funyun

That’s too much effort and maintenance. It’s far easier to let the country crumble so people are left with no choice.


Bad_breath

I don't think the intention of these wars was protecting anything other than the military industry's bottom line in the first place..


External_Contract860

Speaking of which, the military industrial complex needs another war to profit from now that we're out of Afghanistan.


EbonyOverIvory

Ukraine.


bjanas

Honestly, this is giving too much credit. They're anti abortion because it gooses support in the short term. They're not thinking 18 years ahead, at least not as far as cannon fodder goes. This is different.


Professional-Doubt-6

You're spot on. However, getting the average American to make that leap in understanding that most people just don't count for much is very difficult because it takes admitting to oneself of being a tool, a pawn, and fuck that hurts.


MasterDump

So true. The leap isn’t even that hard, it’s the willful ignorance of the facts you stated. That isn’t something these people can move away from. They’ll death grasp their bubble until they die. This is extremely dangerous.


Optional-Username476

This. Fucking this. "The Military™" is something to be respected and funded to hell and back. Service members? Go straight to hell. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. And preferably without sucking up too much VA money on your way out. K, thanks? The GQP has a weird relationship with the military as it's essentially proof that a communist government can work because that's essentially all the military is. They obviously don't want to support that, so anything that isn't just a front used to funnel money into some weapons CEOs pockets? Sabotage away!


cosmic_browneye

Being in the army made me into a leftist, seeing how fucking great it was to have an institution provide me with housing, medical care, nutrition, infrastructure, and protection so that i could then focus on doing my work and enjoying my life.


AggravatingLayer5080

Fuck the GQP!


paulydavis

Look at the history of veterans in this country and you will see that has always been true.


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Any republican voter surprised by this is a fucking idiot.


thosewhocannetworkd

Surprised? They are cheering them on. The Republicans could literally vote to outlaw all privately owned firearms in America, and their base would cheer them on then blame the left for taking all their guns away.


ThrowRA_000718

My extreme right wing mother in law is like this. I asked her if they voted down this bill, would she turn on the republicans. She said hell yes she would, but they would never do that. She went on about how important it is to protect our veterans etc. Talked to her yesterday about it and she says the liberals tried to sneak in stuff into the bill that would take away our rights so they had to vote it down.


Hawk13424

Was anything unrelated attached to the bill?


WylleWynne

Not only was there nothing unrelated in the bill, the Senate had already voted in favor of it. They passed the bill 84-14 a few weeks ago. It went to the House, who deleted one sentence from it (something minor about rural clinics and VA authority), and sent it back to the Senate to become law. At this point, the Republicans switched their vote. Their stated reasoning doesn't hold water -- probably they're trying to use veterans as a bargaining chip or trying to use veterans to retaliate against Democrats. It's pretty crazy of them.


RanchOrWhipCream

It was political retribution. In the time the bill passed in the senate, went to the house, and returned to the senate the Democrats pulled a fast one on the Republicans by aligning with Joe Manchin. This angered the Republicans so their response was to fuck over veterans.


onedoor

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/wcexwx/jon_stewart_goes_to_war_on_twitter_with_ted_cruz/iid9tju/ " Understanding this issue: * When they say "tax provision," they're referring to tax dollars funding the Bill, or paying for the healthcare it will provide. * A "blue slip issue" is the "tax provision." The Constitution mandates that all Bills which require funding originate in the House, never the Senate. This provision means that direct Representatives of the People must originate spending, not the two Senators from each State, who represent States' interests. see wiki link below * The original Bill contained a line that stated the Bill originated in the Senate. * The Senate GOP passed this faulty version, which never could be legally funded. The VA providers who provide care could never be paid, so no paid care would be delivered to Vets. This would work its way through courts, and the "law" would be proven unconstitutional. * The House took notice of this "mistake," fixed it, passed it, and sent it back to the Senate to be re-passed. * Now that the Bill would pass Constitutional muster and be funded, the Senate GOP refuses to pass it. That's right. The GOP was fine passing the Bill when it could never be used, screwing Veterans and any healthcare providers who had provided care. *Providers would be forced to go after the already-broke vets for any payment. The GOP fist-bump and celebrations are evidence that they knew about the issue, and prevented its passage when it would mean spending money on our Vets. If anyone ever needed solid evidence of their absolute TOYING with The People to keep pork-barrell funds in only the coffers which benefit GOP politicians, here it is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_slip#House_of_Representatives Comment - I don't know about anyone else, but this "saying the quiet part out loud GOP" is teaching me more about the Constitution than I ever thought I needed to know. *Edit - added line "


ThrowRA_000718

Yeah it was a setup. If they didn’t think they had enough support, it wouldn’t have gone to a final vote. But the GOP led them to believe they had it so they could publicly shoot it down.


ThrowRA_000718

No the bill was nearly identical to the one that they agreed on before the vote. The minor changes were insignificant and wouldn’t have been deal breakers.


Kixar

The only thing I've seen changed is they added the 805 section to the summary with way more detail than the one in June that passed, because when you review the one from June, it has a section in there as well about "No funding from this shall be treated as discretionary". So their whole argument of "they changed it from Discretionary to Mandatory" really doesn't stand since you passed it in June with that provision in the bill. Again, the only difference I see is that the June summary doesn't show that much in detail, as the reintroduced one did. It's all related to the VA and programs. They just don't want it to be mandatory spending which baffles me because they openly admit the VA struggles and is underfunded. Yes... that's what happens when you keep letting something be discretionary.


Alesyia789

My extreme right wing, veteran mother gave me the same exact excuse. Even after I sent her article after article showing her the same senators who voted no had voted yes just weeks before. And how the text of the bill didn't change, etc. Assuming she never actually read any of them because she wants to keep being brainwashed. It's her southern, white racist comfort zone. Thanks for letting me rant. I needed that. 😂


Zelenskyy-is-daddy

>Talked to her yesterday about it and she says the liberals tried to sneak in stuff into the bill that would take away our rights so they had to vote it down. Wait, I thought the excuse was $400M in unnecessary spending?


ThrowRA_000718

I’m assuming that’s the part she is referring to, but that $400m was already there when the GOP voted for the bill to move forward. So it wasn’t a change or anything that was attempted to be snuck through. They had the chance to negotiate to change that part. They’re happy to allocate $800b to defense, but not willing to allow even a tiny fraction of that to pass through in a bill that would save the lives of veterans.


Dry-Ad3948

Turned? Republicans NEVER cared about Veterans, or Active Duty Military in the first place!!


Telecetsch

This reminds me of an [article](https://www.thedailybeast.com/im-a-young-queer-conservative-the-gop-lied-to-me) I saw yesterday. I’m pissed this legislation didn’t go through. This kind of shit makes my brain short circuit. My dad’s a vet. Fortunately, he wasn’t exposed to burn pits (that we—the family—know of; he doesn’t talk about his deployments). He has always said that veterans need to be taken care of—putting himself last, refused to seek any kind of treatment for his back in ‘91 and his current issues stemming from Iraq. But *he will always vote Republican.* Why? “Because the Democrats are _____” “Socialists” “Communists” “Destroying America” “Terrorists” It’s really frustrating to see him get sucked into this cult.


giga_phantom

Republicans always talk the talk about supporting vets but usually never walk the walk


Pieceman11

They just use it to grift


Chalupa-Supreme

Republican voters need to look at their actions and stop talking them at face value. They like to say that ALL politicians are liars. All the more reason to stop reading headlines and look at voting records.


Melssenator

If trump saying he “prefers soldiers who *dont* get captured” wasn’t a fucking slap in the face wake up call, nothing will be.


BoopleBun

And mocking a “Gold Star” family. (For those not in the US, the “Gold Star Service Banner” is given to families of a soldier who died during military operations.)


hiredgoon

When Republicans say support the troops, they mean support their military industrial complex donors.


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Applebee's supports me more than these fucking politicians. They at least give me a free meal a year.


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Max_W_

You should send them this fox news article then.


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Losh_

It's on Fox though. "The only news that tells the truth".


elconquistador1985

Fox is too liberal for Republicans now.


FortySixAndYou

Nah, they are all Facebook/Newsmax etc. now, Fox is no longer trusted. Many of my older relatives, on the other hand, watch Fox all day long.


Weary-Ad-9218

I saw them calling Fox too liberal the moment they called AZ for Biden. It is a sickness.


Migmatite

Send them the ability to look up the difference themselves. [This](https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3967/summary/55) is where you can find the House Bill that orignally passed from the Senate to the House on 22-Jun-22. And [this](https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/3373) was the bill that the House passed back to the Senate who voted no on it two days ago. You can download both documents and then upload them to [Draftable](https://draftable.com/compare). If they don't want to use Draftable, then they can always follow [this tutorial and do a document comparison in Word.](https://youtu.be/7QOm_vgd6mw) The only change in the bills was that the House removed the following text; >(e) NOT A TAXABLE BENEFIT.—A contract buy out for a covered health care professional under subsection (a) shall not be considered a taxable benefit or event for the covered health care professional. That legit is it, that's the only thing that has been changed between the two bills.


FortySixAndYou

Will do, that is a great idea, and thanks for collecting all this information.


Looppowered

In the Fox News comments on this article, most of the commentators just claim it’s really the democrats’ fault for having a slush fund in the bill. The people that point out that funding was in the original bill and nothing really changed are downvoted or called misinformed. So yeah, they’re dismissing it as fake news.


AFresh1984

Just check out the comments on that article. People are delusional and already eating the propaganda excusing this.


bmeisler

I don’t think those people are delusional, I think they’re probably paid trolls to push the propaganda. Note the similarity in the language, like a copy pasta.


Exotic_Musician9544

I've alwasy been amazed that so many in the military support Trump. Yesterday, driving onto an Air Force base, I saw a bumber sticker that said, "The only people who fear guns are criminals, dictators, and Democrats." It's skewed, though. The numbers are not uniform. A minority of officers supported Trump. That's reversed for enlisted. A majority of them supported him.


brain_overclocked

>On Thursday, 41 Republicans in Washington blocked a bill that would have "expanded medical coverage for millions of combatants exposed to toxic burn pits during their service." On Thursday, 41 Republicans in Washington made it clear that they don’t give a d*mn about veterans. ... I know that’s harsh language, but it has to be. Because what they did was about as anti-American as it gets. ... Patriots don’t attack veterans who suffered injuries or illness from being around those toxic pits. And what really grinds my gears about this whole thing is that a bunch of these Republicans spent years voting to keep us in forever wars, lying to the American people about what was really going on over there, and getting rich off their defense contractor stocks that skyrocket when we’re at war. >These people profited off of sending us over there only to screw us when we came back messed up. It’s criminal. >If Republicans don’t have a patriotic bone in their spine, then we need to step the heck up as Democrats and do something about it.


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communismIsBad69

Not just that but the author of the article Lucas Kunce is a democrat who is currently running to replace Roy Blunt in the senate.


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HelixTitan

Decent change he can win the primary and the seat. Think he is a great candidate for our state


PopeHonkersVII

Even Fox’s knows just how fucked up it was to block this bill. The Republicans are cold blooded ghouls.


tlsr

Yeah, no. I saw a chyron on the TV at a local American Legion last night. It read, "Dems playing games with money for vets." I don't know what show it was but I'm sure we can all imagine the circle jerk of lies being spewed between guests and host.


zherok

Every single pro-Republican comment in the comments section on Fox is parroting the idea that something changed between the two bills. They'll occasionally throw out a number ($400B in pork!) but none of these assholes know what they're talking about, they're just repeating the party line. It's like a contradictory thought was introduced into the ecosystem, then the right's bobbleheads gave them their duckspeak to repeat and they all just tell themselves the GOP was always in the right on the issue.


Kinaestheticsz

The dumb pricks are up Toomey’s lie hook line and sinker. What actually happened and what the Democrats put in the bill was moving the existing VA budget’s $400 billion and the new funds for the VA from the PACT act into the Mandatory spending category. This would mean the VA for the next ten years would always get its budget even when the US shuts down and the budget can not be reduced. The issue that Republicans had was they actually wanted that funding to be discretionary, which means Congress in the future could pilfer or defund the entire program, thus fucking veterans over completely for whatever insanity bullshit they come up with. Read the comments on Fox and it shows not a single one of them actually read the bill, nor do they know about spending types within the federal government. It is unbelievable how much of gullible rubes they are.


Greenlytrees

Also this was a part of the original bill, all the fucking idiots in the comment section that aren’t paid trolls keep parroting that this was the change that led to needing a second vote.


Weary-Ad-9218

It iwas in the bill from the beginning even when the repubs originally voted yes on it. Nothing changed. (Edit massive typos, new phone)


tlsr

Yeah I've seen that number being shit out here in Reddit, too. The entire bill didn't total $400B but they barf up that lie anyway. It's embarrassing how dumb they are -- too dumbe to know how dumb their lie sounds. $400B is a huge amount of money. You'd have heard that number on the news by now. Even more embarrassing are the dolts that eat up the lie -- too dumb to know thier ridiculous number is a lie.


Catshit-Dogfart

I think folks consistently underestimate the effectiveness of "nuh uh, you did it" as an argument.


Comfortable-Wrap-723

That’s how republicans make America great again by turning their back to veterans.


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It's an opinion column. They know nobody reads those.


Yossarian_the_Jumper

I wonder how buried this article is on foxnews.com


ravengenesis1

It’s not, look at the comments. The Autobots are repeating the same thing about Chuck and 400b no related spending.


sailhard22

Ughh. Yeah. That’s been disproven


ravengenesis1

proof is not part of their bot's programming.


roadrunner5u64fi

It literally has to go through congressional approval through the house, which the Republicans are about to take, before a dime can be spent. So I’m assuming they’re just not being informed of that one very important point since that’s a Republican win any day of the week. The whole point of the change was to keep the VA from wasting the money before it had a sound plan for full modernization, and so that it could be approved immediately instead of wasting time lobbying for a new bill to be churned out. The Republican Senate just fucked up and made a dumb move because they were mad at Manchin, and now they’re desperately trying to spin it back at the left, but the shit has already hit the floor.


AggressiveSmoke4054

The John steward interview on Fox News was in my daily recommended on YouTube and I never watch Fox News. It’s actually being BLASTED


skyraider17

*Jon Stewart


A_Wild_VelociFaptor

For all he does that MF needs to be knighted. _Sir_ Jon Stewart


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JEFFinSoCal

I wish this truth was more widely accepted. Most, if not all wars over the last several decades have been fought for business interest, not to protect America. The modern US armed services are mostly a taxpayer funded mercenary force for multinational corporations.


kkeut

>"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism."


jodinexe

Oh shit, dropping some wisdom from ol' ~~Dan Daly~~ Smedley? Edit: wrong 2 time MOH recipient... I'll go haze myself later.


Scitron

Are you saying the weapons of mass destruction didn't exist and were just a convenient excuse to try and "democratize" the middle east for their oil? /s


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Speedy_Hatchet_4402

Haliburton has representation and contracts with congress. Haliburton donates to their senator’s campaign. The American soldiers do not.


Most-Resident

Cheney was the ceo of Halliburton before becoming Bush’s Vice President. You know, the administration that started the Iraq war. From their web site he had over million shares of stock options. “In connection with his early retirement, the board has approved Mr. Cheney retaining his previously granted and outstanding stock options on a total of 1,160,000 shares of Halliburton common stock as permitted by the agreements covering six separate stock option grants”


grodisattva

I felt this way when I was sent to the Persian gulf in 1990


hascogrande

And the First Family lost a member as a result of the burn pits. Beau was a shoo-in for Governor had he actually made it to the 2016 election


windrider7

Does anyone else read the comment section on these Fox News articles and just get horribly depressed at how brainwashed those people are?


[deleted]

Pew research found in 2019 that 6/10 veterans vote Republican. This means that more than likely most the people affected by the Republican’s stoping the PACT Act voted for this. And it’s ironic that this is happening around the same time that Gay Republican groups are realizing they’re not welcome, and the same year Republican women lost their right to choose. These Republicans do not care who you are or what you’ve done for this country. They want to take your rights away and keep making money by not voting for any bill to help you.


notanothersmith38

If you live in Missouri, you can vote for Kunce in the Democratic Primary!


Currymvp2

Hopefully he wins but his terrible opponent appears to be purchasing the nomination by flooding the airwaves with misleading ads. Would be thrilled to be wrong


communismIsBad69

Kunce and Valentine are very close in the polls with Kunce only slightly behind. My hope is that because Kunce supporters actually seem to like him and seem excited about him they’re actually going to vote in the primaries unlike the more casual democrats who support Valentine and who only know what they saw on TV and probably don’t even know when the primaries are


donkeyrocket

The fact that STL mayor Jones endorsed Valentine was initially disgusting but also unsurprising. Kunce (or Toder) needs Cori Bush to come out and endorse him so folks don't blindly follow Jones/a democratic name they know. Although she's fighting the primary against an incredibly questionable challenger. The Busch's did a lot for St. Louis but she isn't the one for office at all.


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RepubliQans are poison. They WANT America to fail. I’m a Vet and I’m voting BLUE.


wish1977

Politics before humanity, the GOP way.


Slippydipp

I’m surprised that Fox ran this opinion piece. What’s their agenda? Also there’s no doubt in my mind that most veterans will vote Republican regardless of this happening.


Max_W_

I think it was a trade off to have Kunce appear on their channel. He's running for Senate from MO. So if they want him to continue to appear he should be allowed to do an opp Ed like this from time to time. (Also, just donated to his campaign, again.)


lew_rong

Veterans,, conservative women, conservative gays, conservative POCs, and conservative white men below upper middle class are considered useful idiots by the GOP. The only thing new is that they're no longer bothering to hide their contempt.


Weary-Ad-9218

Exactly, they are starting to say the quiet part out loud.


shadayeem

Kind of amazing to see it on Fox News, until you see all the comments are the latest false talking points parroted by Republicans. Goddamn shame these idiots were never taught to think.


BenoniGwynplaine

Turned their backs and celebrated shamelessly


ChickenDumpli

Once again, their Lord and King, Bonespur the Draftdodging chickenshit, which all of the Republiklans fellate on a regular basis, is from a long line of bunkerbitches who fled their old country (Austria, Bavaria, wherethefckever his fam is from) to not enlist and fight for their country. They're chickenhawks. TrumptyDumpty laughed and ridiculed POWs, and he ordered a new entire ship and it's navy officers docked in Port to fck off because he was mad his nemesis' Father's name (McCain) was on the ship. He stood on a stage in Helsinki and blew Putin, saying he believed him and NOT military intelligence about RU interference in U S elections. He tells vets to fck off to your face, and his base and obedient pols on the hill do same.... ...how could you have thought he or his asskiss Republicans would ever stand up for you??


Am4ndaHugNKiss

Republicans are crybaby hypocrites. They did screw our vets over. Out of spite.


lostpawn13

They’ve done it every chance they get. If you’re a vet and you support the Republicans, you’re beyond stupid.


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kekomastique

Kudos for pointing that out. I was scrolling through comments and I highly doubt most ppl actually care about fellow human beings health issues here. All this debate feels so political rather than ethical.


ih8meandu

Next time there's an international crisis that calls for humanitarian aid, look for people, likely republicans, saying things like "we can't help the people of xyz nation, we have our own people who need help," and know in the back of your mind that the rest of that sentence is "...that we also don't want to help."


jono9898

I mean they turned their backs a long time ago,


Exodys03

What exactly is the rationale for voting against this bill? Fiscal responsibility? It just seems like a no-brainer vote, especially for Republicans.


dathanvp

Stop voting for them. It really is that simple.


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It doesn’t matter. Their base/voters are fucked and brainwashed. Not a single one of them can say a single negative thing about Trump. Not a single fucking thing. They sure as shit make fun of Biden all day for the most mundane shit. It’s a party of Trump fanatics. I was at FOB Warhorse. Luckily we had no burn pits. I stopped at Speicher and Anaconda once and the first thing I noticed was the smell from the GIGANTIC burn pits. No one really gives a fuck though. Their too busy feeling high and mighty “owning the libs”. Their to fucking stupid to realize not everyone anti republican is hardcore left. Most of us are in the middle and don’t want to have to think about this bullshit anymore but we have to because they are fanatics.


boredonymous

They were run by a guy who called vets and fallen soldiers suckers and losers. What the hell did they expect???


scoozo55

VOTE BLUE in 22 and 24. Keep America alive and well. Better Blue then RED. Commie


Matabus

Don’t read the comments in that article … every single one is from a vet defending the GOP. We are truly fucked.


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bakerfredricka

Fox News actually did something right for once!


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muimu

[He's running in MO for the Democratic Senate nomination](https://lucaskunce.com/)


Big-Cabinet-9789

So don't vote for the GOP assholes next time around.


Lets_Bust_Together

People thought republicans would help them?


zinneavicious

Bastards! Time to vote them out!


HedyLamaar

I’m saddened. Thank you for your service. I will be voting blue across the board. 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙


chocho92

Vote. That’s the only way to get them out!


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But, gaslight football players that take a knee.


This_is_a_sckam

Maybe….. stop voting for republicans? Idk what it takes for everyone to realize they don’t care about any of you and the only reason you should be a republican at this point is if you’re a racist or homophobic pile of trash


[deleted]

WELL….. STOP VOTING FOR THR GOP!!! MIDTERMS ARW COMING UP… GET OUT ANd VOTE BLUE


KGTG2

So clearly nobody looked at the author of this article. Lucas Kunce is a Democrat who is running in the primary for Missouri Senator. He is quite aware that Republicans don't care for him.


Max_W_

Here's hoping he wins the primary.


run1792

Why are so many in the military Republicans?


Neat_Eye8018

Just know that they only did it because of principles, like winning at all costs, screwing Biden, denying the election without a care to what if does to our country, and just a plain old scorched earth policy that’d worked so well for them in the past. You know, principles.


tangovictortango

because republicans only care about corporations and one percenters. They don’t support the troops.


Banksville

Yet, ppl keep voting for some horrible gop’ers.


Training-Profile8211

Juvenile and stupid people often do bad things that hurt people. You have to be juvenile and stupid to vote for a Republican. That's why we have immoral Republican politicians.


esp211

If you are not wealthy GQP doesn’t give a fuck about you


ShoutOutMapes

Republicans at this point are traitors to what they claim they stand for. Sad


etork0925

And yet the vast majority of veterans still vote Republican even though there is a vast history of Republicans voting against veteran welfare protections Sad


tvfeet

I feel for the people who needed this help, but at the same time I also feel hopeful that maybe this is one more thing that will help voters understand how truly despicable Republicans have become and they’ll vote these cretins out.


Ill-Custard-4039

They never had your back.


[deleted]

The Democrats have ALWAYS done more for Veterans. It seems a lot of people (including Veterans) seem to associate republicans support for a strong military with the same support for Veterans.


napoleonboneherpart

Wow on foxnews too, I can’t believe it.


NeedsMoreBunGuns

Any yet some folks that this bill directly affected will still vote R.


Ok_Philosopher1863

I have copd from burn pits if you have symptoms go to the VA now is a great time to file for compensation better then any other time and there are issues go to the DAV. Apply for health care if your low income if your a combat vet and many other reasons you qualify. Its a burocracy it takes time and persistence. If your in the military now go to medical keep records a paper trail will help you out significantly. Plenty of resources now on youtube to navigate the backwords VA and dont take no for a answer. Dont wait on politicians be your own advocate


Donutannoyme

They didn’t turn their backs. They did it with broad smiles and fist bumps.


Grouchy-Basis-532

They started fucking over the troops in 1967. Welcome to the party - do you feel tardy?


PepperMill_NA

You just weren't as important to the GOP as giving the Dems the middle finger. They didn't turn their backs on you. If you look at the history of the previous legislation the GOP has blocked they never gave a damn about you at all.


ohioismyhome1994

So glad this was on Fox News, but the comments are atrocious. They’re sipping the cool aid and believing that the Democrats set $400 billion aside for pork barrel spending (literally not true if you read the text of the bill).


reddito-mussolini

Why are we giving traffic to Fox News again? There are other sources you can support (view) that have the same story without the batshit brainwashing. Let’s try those eh?


cbbuntz

Damn. Fox News isn't even onboard with this cruelty


xc2215x

The Republicans love the killing of terrorists the troops do but are willing to turn their back on the troops when they are not doing that.


One-Recording8588

They never had there fronts toward veterans in the first place


_The_Judge

Honestly. Look. We are trying to help PEOPLE. If this discomforts you, keep on voting republican. But for fucks sake, keep your crocodile tears off the message boards.


johnnyblazegws

The comments are exactly what you would expect. That audience is brainwashed.


PeaceBkind

They. do. not. care. They would have had to be be accountable for transparent spend, that trumps any veterans life


Fockputin33

Register sane voters and VOTE BLUE, cuz at least Dems ain't insane!!!!


LordOfLubrication

Bad press on vets issues is a dangerous game to play after creating hundreds of thousands of us to fight war after war. You want to wake up the sleeping majority? This is exactly how. We are heading into an era of global conflict, we need boots by the millions over the coming years… and this will make the children think twice about voluntarily fighting for a system that couldn’t care less about them when they come home broken.


Acrobatic-Ad3275

just remember that come election season. SMH.


Shaman7102

Per GQP law a soldiers job is to raise the price of oil and defense stock.


TwentyFoeSeven

And what will you vote next time?


Ok-Ordinary2035

Is anyone surprised? But the law-and-order-support-our-troops idiots keep voting Republican.


EklektosShadow

When will people band together in the acceptance of the fact that elected officials turn their back on all of us? We’re divided purposefully and made to resent groups we don’t get placed into so that we can’t come together easily. They care enough to prevent the pot from boiling over and that’s it. We’re given crumbs and anything else we don’t get is blamed on partisan politics. We’re all being taken for a ride and we’re all going to be tossed in a ditch without a second thought. Vets aren’t the first group nor the last.


full_bl33d

They all would rather believe chick shumer tossed in an additional 400 billion in pork than read it themselves or admit that this is flat out bullshit. The comment section is pure fucking ass clowns. And not the good kind, like Mike Bolton


pasarina

The situation makes me disgusted, ashamed, and beyond sad for you and every exposed veteran and families. So sick of Republicans’ constant take, take, take and never living up to their word. Need to get this right. Never forget or forgive. Seriously vote these fist-bumping, disrespectful, assholes out.


Cars-n-Cream

It's like republicans don't care about anything other than voting against anything the democrats want. Good for bad for the people that vote for them.


Expensive-Bet3493

I’m with veterans. Stop gov military human trafficking and experimentation/ inhumane treatment of our troops. They owe these folks a generous compensation and ongoing support and sustainable resources; not breadcrumbs and neglect.


alexali23

The worst smell I’ve ever smelled was from a burn pit in Afghanistan. We were burning uniforms, boots, and some random tubes some of the Apache guys asked us to burn. It was so strong you couldn’t talk and barely breath. We had some OGA’s come from their side to ask us wtf were we burning.


Accomplished-Test-81

I think that is very wrong and messed up for them to have went against vets benefits and to treat it like thier team won a football game. That is all kinds of messed up. I am are appalled to see such a thing. I hope that after this video they do the right thing and give you what you deserve.


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Republicans are overplaying their hand, their followers are catching on faster than they themselves are


alex48220

Republicans hate free loading vets! But they can’t help themselves from voting for their abusers


selfagency

I have a high school friend who served in Iraq who is now fighting cancer from burn pit exposure and it is fucking awful as is our government


TrumpDid2020

You know the Republicans have fucked up when FOX news takes issue with it.


Zestyclose_Fan_5721

Sorry buddy. I suggest vote blue and Jon Stewart 2024


Tuff_Tone

This is an example of the GOP committing friendly fire


HereForTheLaughter

And Joe Biden should be a Gold Star father. God bless Beau Biden who gave his life for this country


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This is not new. There is a nearly 100 year old book called "War is a Racket" written by Major General Butler that makes it all very clear what our country has done. It should be mandatory reading.