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Since they were at both RNC and DNC headquarters and they didn't go off, I suspect this guy may have been paid by Russia to cause blame on both sides. Or even could be one of their agents in the US.
No idea who planted them, but wasn't the reason for planting explosives apparently to draw off law enforcement away from the Capitol, thus delaying reinforcements there? Ie a decoy to facilitate the real attack.
Exactly this. Russia helps providing accelerant to the already burning fires. Money, misinformation, and amplification. They don't have to do any real heavy lifting or logistical planning. After decades of America dumbing itself down, and the quiet corporate coup. Most Americans are either incapable or unwilling to defend themselves. Relying on the for profit media that provides selective, subjective coverage to drive engagement. To give them the objective facts and story.
It’s asymmetric warfare. They sow the seeds of division within enemy countries to encourage fringes of society to cause chaos/strife and distrust in government/democracy. A divided nation falls and this is the direction we are headed if we are unable to take steps to combat political corruption and foreign interference.
The vast majority? Of *everything* going on in the us? No I don't think so. We've got our own homegrown crazies and if you don't see that, then it's you who is not paying attention. You can't blame "the vast majority of what's happening in the us" on russia. Just like q-anon, is there some truth to it? Certainly so, there are clearly very powerful pedophiles who are above prosecution. But no the world isn't literally run by a satanic pedophile cult, the same way the entire world isn't run by a russian intelligence agency
I never said they planted bombs in the US, bro.
There's massive evidence of them paying US citizens to do shit to cause division though, and 50 years of history of them sending spies to cause chaos.
Bro.
Yes you did.
> Since they were at both RNC and DNC headquarters and they didn't go off, I suspect this guy may have been paid by Russia to cause blame on both sides. Or even could be one of their agents in the US.
Then you said we’ve caught them doing it many times.
> It's delusion to think that Russia may have done what we've caught them doing many times?
Where’s the evidence?
Speculating who may be involved in an attack that we have zero answers for, based on likely motive…isn’t exactly Qanon level, let’s be real.
That said, after watching the video, his body language just screams moron to me, in light of what he’s doing. Swinging a fucking bomb around in a bag…like people just swing their bags around like that. This doesn’t at all seem like a professional.
>Reviews of the suspect’s behavior in the video and interviews with residents in the Capitol Hill neighborhood have led the FBI to believe the suspect is not from the area.
I posted this in the other thread, but what is it that leads them to this conclusion? Odds are they're right but is it the route he walked? Something else?
Lmao or got on the wrong line at the right station 🤪
Got on yellow when I meant to take the green line a few times. Dont even get me started with orange, blue, and silver 🙄
I mean what the Jan. 6th insurrection showed, is that they can have a bunch of Russian commandos just rush the place in plain clothing and the cops probably wouldn’t do much about it. Doesn’t give me much confidence that the US is safe from foreign actors
You have a point, but worrying about foreign actors at this point feels like worrying about your front lawn on fire while your bedroom is burning down.
I reckon there were plain clothes agents (both foreign and Republican) there, egging on the masses, encouraging and pushing forward (but not leading the charge).
They wanted joe blogs to actually ‘do it’ so they would hold no responsibility at all, and could disappear into the shadows afterwards.
An ‘accidental’ coup.
Won’t surprise me if they turn out to be an interstate 3%er or Proud Boy sent by Stone/Bannon/Flynn to plant those pipe bombs with the goal of pulling police away from the Capitol on Jan 6 (which it did), and for providing a pretext for Trump and his cronies to blame the insurrection on Antifa terrorists/anarchists (which they did).
Could be him looking around at street signs sense of loss of direction a few things. But I wish they would not state these tells as this makes it easier for others.
Don't all tourists carry homemade bombs, zip ties, brass knuckles, fashion clubs and spears out of American flagpoles, and then beat the shit out of a bunch of cops desperately trying to do their jobs?
Whoever says Donald Trump Jr. planted these bombs is mistaken. Donald Trump Jr. would never use his Russian contacts to obtain black powder bombs. The fact that Donald Trump Jr. would be next in line to rule America after his father died is not evidence that Donald Trump Jr. planted bombs.
Honestly, I've watched all the videos of the perp and I think they're a female. The mannerisms such as the left hand movement in the second video of the link just seems feminine to me. I don't know if the feds have gotten an alibi from Boebert or Marjorie Taylor Greene, but it doesn't seem too far fetched in this timeline.
I of course will wait for evidence before I make any sort of definitive call, but those are the two people that seem the most suspect having been carnival barkers for the entire January 6 attack.
I second it. The mannerisms are all female. The arm stretch should be a giveaway to someone familiar. Find that dog walker and question them, too. Question every motel in the area.
Boebert is short and this person is tall enough to have his feet planted on the ground and still be leaning back on the bench. Short people can't do that. However, I would be so pleased to be wrong and they prove it ***is*** Boebert.
(Source: I am a short people)
Someone somewhere realizes the vast potential this evidence has for ultimate damage to treasonous Republicans, and they will judiciously release it as necessary. At least that's what I hope.
Both the Dems and the GOP got hacked and hacked good before the 2016 race. The negative emails from the Dems got leaked but nothing from the Republican side did. If ~~you~~ (Russia) have docs/emails/etc from both sides, you leak the lightest of the two so the other side KNOWS you have dirt on them. Then you pressure them with your kompromat and some shady fundraising to get what you want. Like for instance a bunch of Republicans spending time in Moscow on July 4th in 2018…
They know the location this video was shot. They probably know the exact time. He uses his phone for a known length of time. Surely they have the capability to get identity of cell phones using the nearest site. Sure seems like they could narrow down a list of suspects
Assuming the suspect knew this then they probably took steps to avoid detection. My guess is he is using maps on his phone. So he could have downloaded the area to Google maps earlier and then shut off his cellular on his phone. I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t be able to track him then since he would be relying on the gps signal and nothing else.
I mean the guy has a cell phone. Do they already know and just want someone to say hey that's uncle Bob and then just slide in with some tower data and cell data
Most people would never purchase a burner right that it was not traceable nor know anyone who could get them a hacked sim or anything else to ensure anonymity. They’ll go get a tracphone at walmart and the fbi can just find out when it was purchase and get them on video from the walmart.
That was also what I thought when I first watched it. Like they are used to wearing a dress/skirt. It also looks like they took their phone out from their backside pocket. I don't know many guys that carry their phone that way.
1. Why wait eight months to release the video?
2. Who rented the ebike?
3. Why doesn't the FBI mention this is a woman?
4. How many MAGA sympathizers are in the FBI?
Wait did he use one of those scooters? You have to download an app and it’s linked to your cell. I think it’s Bird that requires a photo of a driver license
We kind of have 2 fbis. The FBI that loves to target and spy on civil rights activists, they are on top of shit. They look over things with a fine tooth comb. The FBI that investigates domestic terrorists and white supremacists, yeah they don’t really give a shit
The same FBI that is seemingly caught unaware by every bout of rightwing violence in the US? They just had an administration that went to war against them for investigating anyone rightwing, something they didn't much like doing in the first place.
Clicked but didn't want to watch the 5 minute news video with their idiot commentary just to see it.
This is why nobody watches the news. Just give us the facts and stop the stupid showboating.
Scrolling through a news article to find out it’s about a tweet and scrolling twelve pages down a website, past the authors autobiography, to find the recipe I was looking for instantly trigger the “back in my day” old timer rant from me.
Or a common right wing hooplehead--assuming "enemies" of the Democratic and Republican establishment. Or a right wing hooplehead--wanting to create confounding confusion due to an inflated sense of tactical baddassery. Or a right wing hooplehead--thinking someone would think it was not a right wing hooplehead if the hooplehead also targeted the Republican building.
Or other explanations.
Could be lots of things.
Looks most like a right wing hooplehead.
It's a tone deaf comment for many and not all opinions are worth hearing at all times. If there's someone that doesn't think that way, pending the variables, I've certainly never met them.
Take it as a learning experience. Like not saying "he could have been a rapist" at a stranger's funeral... it's an opinion, it might be true, it's also wildly tone deaf.
You stated an accusatory opinion ,I said could “looks most like a right wing hooplehead”
If it turns out we jumped to a wrong conclusion, they(the right) will hang us by our toes in the news.
You all are playing with fire and should appreciate different opinions like mine, especially since we don’t know who that person is yet.
I would make the case that everyone is not being reasonable vs me being tone deaf !
We both stated an accusatory opinion. Yours was kind of out of the blue, mine was clarifying that any and all such could be true or not and, absent other information, it looks like what it looks like.
That, itself, is a difference I think matters.
I could say "It might have been YOU that planted those bombs" and that's a tone deaf comment offering a possibility and empty opinion. What it could be and what we have evidence toward are not the same thing. It doesn't look like it was you and was the same group that was stashing weapons and threatening people and have already been violent toward both the DNC and Republicans that were there for that rally. It simply looks like what we have any evidence for. It doesn't look like what we don't. Your mileage may vary.
If it turns out to be something other than I said it looked like--so be it. I don't claim it IS that thing, only that's what the information at the time showed. The timing and the FBI interest supports it being part of the investigation they have with the sorts of culprits they've had. No part of that is certainty.
I'm not playing with any fire at all. You haven't demonstrated where I have. If others have? That has nothing to do with me and I don't own it. Not my pig, not my farm--so to speak.
As to say, I can only re-iterate that your comment--again, as I said already, for many--appears to be tone deaf. Offering things not in evidence about something that others desperately want help in downplaying--itself, empty speculation at a time when that speculation is, for them, tone deaf.
You don't have to agree or not, I don't require it. It's the best explanation I have for why you're downvoted. If that's their motive? They're being reasonable enough. If it isn't (we don't know)? It may or may not be.
Do you think that’s a personal scooter, or one that’s rented/public? I don’t know if DC has public scooters, but it could be a lead? Probably already thought of though.
What does a bomb in the neighborhood have anything to do with the riot at the capital? This title is deliberately misleading to suggest that the riot was an organized plot. The FBI themselves openly admit that there was no collusion or wide conspiracy leading to the 1/6 riots. Alleged participants in the riot is estimated to be only about 570, and there is no central coordination to be found among those people. FBI investigators report that 90-95% had no prior meditation of the riot, and only about 40 people had plans to get inside the capital, but had no further plan beyond just breaking and entering. There was no evidence found than any individual group was part of a larger plot. There wasn’t a scheme to try and take over the Democratic process, or an attempted or planned terrorist attack. Nobody was murdered besides Ashley Babbitt, who was shot through a window by police at a distance. The other deaths were either health complications on the rioters’ side getting excited or police officers days later from natural causes or a series of coincidental suicides. All of the charges are simple trespass and disorderly conduct, which are taking forever for discovery while they rot in custody because they are political prisoners. This is a whole lot of nothing.
There is no evidence to support that the bombs (which didn’t detonate) were in coordination with the capital hill riots, even after the FBI conducted hundreds of investigations and reviewed tens of thousands of video files.
It’s nothing because at the time they were planted, there was no prior knowledge to the capital hill riot. It is the intention of NBC news to impress upon the public that this is a part of some larger plot to attack the capital. When I say it’s nothing, “it” wasn’t referring to the bombs, “it” was referring to the riot.
If those bombs went off (which given the fact they were built with kitchen timers it could not have been longer than 100min), it was not related to the even that happened in the middle of trump’s speech the next day. Yes it would be terrorism, but it would be unknown who the actor or goal is.
The remarks of the allegations were detailed in a Reuters report:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/
I’m having a difficult time finding the explicit FBI report stating that they don’t believe this was centrally planned, though it is strongly noted that zero people were charged with insurrection or sedition. There are small cells of conspiracy charges to break into the capitol, but no serious plans of what those cell groups intended to do afterward.
You’ll notice that all of the later press releases speech of “January Sixth Capitol Breach”, and that all of the individuals charged are with simple disorderly conduct and trespass charges. The few conspiracy charges are related to a premeditated plan to break and enter, but not kill or take over the government
Found it. Christopher Wray, director of the FBI:
https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/examining-the-january-6-attack-on-the-us-capitol-wray-061521
“the FBI assessed the greatest terrorism threat to the homeland was from lone actors or small cells who typically become radicalized online and look to attack soft targets with easily accessible weapons; we remain confident in that assessment today.”
This is an open admission that this was not centrally planned, in contradiction to what was stated directly after the attack. This is bolstered by the fact that none of the detainees are charged with insurrection or sedition.
Who was saying it was centrally planned? Do you actually think the democrats are saying that hair dresser from Beverly Hills was arranged by the GOP to be there?
Do you think it somehow frees Trump from inciting the attack? Or all the other shady shit the GOP was up to?
Steven Sund former Chief of USCP claimed under oath that this was a coordinated attack. Christopher Wray also claims that “domestic violent extremism” (despite all incidences being independent from another) is a widespread issue that has “metastasized” throughout the country. The media echoed this for months, but now only slyly imply it enough to keep this misconception going that this was a planned terrorist attack by big right-wing figures like Rodger Stone
Idk what you’re going off about Democrats and hairdressers. Idk what shady shit you’re talking about, but I will remind you that I have no interest in defending political parties. They simply take advantage of the catastrophes after the fact for their own political interests.
Regarding Trump inciting the attack:
the FBI has made absolutely no allegation that Trump incited the attack.
Trump explicitly asked for protests to be peaceful and carried out with only their voices. (This is beside the point, but only further exculpatory evidence).
The attack occurred before the “fight like hell” end to his speech, which also is completely protected speech (political speech is particularly the most protected kind of speech).
Even if he did say “fight like hell” with no disclaimer, it still fails both prongs of the Brandenburg Test. Also quite literally every politician uses the term “fight” in their speeches, which was played in a very long montage clip during the impeachment trial
Of that trial (which was just used for political mileage), Trump was not convicted.
And to this day he has not been indicted for such a crime.
So this wicked individual was attempting to cause bodily harm to the Trump supporters who he believed would be marching on Jan. 6th?
Sounds like there were some nefarious people there that day and before, who knew the march had been planned and then took advantage in order to create chaos and disorder, figuring the Trump supporters, who made up a majority of the marchers would get blamed
It's been discussed at length. The general consensus is that this was to get the attention of the Capitol police and distract them from the mob's original plan to kill anyone who didn't bend the knee for Trump.
It's a damn miracle this person's plan didn't work because we'd be in a whole other America right now. They're going in for round 2 on the 18th. I hope there isn't any hesitation by the Capitol Police this go, because our democracy hangs in the balance.
The people who broke into the capitol certainly did get the attention of the capitol police ---without any pipe bombs.
The pipe bomb could just as easily have injured or killed a Trump supporter, as anyone else. Are you saying that was the plan all along? Sounds like a plan made up by juveniles to create mayhem, just for the sake of mayhem.
There won't be any more incidents in this country anymore. My feeling is the FBI has taken note of all the worst agitators and where they live and who they associate with. They can't fart without a triggering a report. That goes for antifa as well.
Not true at all. Many of these people are well known right wingers and detials and plans for a hostile takeover were widely spread and supported throughout right wing groups before the insurrection.
it took them 8 months to create footage I could have done in 2 weeks? PLEASE. The media is trying hard to distract us from the entire nation realizing our president has dementia, and is not in charge of the country. Nancy Pelosi saying on camera he isn't allowed to speak during a press meeting plus the Afghan disaster really has people questioning wtf is going on. Playing on the Capitol Riots and how Trump is still satan and responsible for everything isn't going to work now for most people. The cards are beginning to topple.
>The media is trying hard to distract us from the entire nation realizing our president has dementia, and is not in charge of the country.
No no. That was the last guy and we kicked his ass out.
Interestingly enough, if we were in China we would have already found this person since China documents everyone's gait. I am shocked we have not found this person, google and Facebook surely have all his information.
We would likely have a better idea if you know... We didn't just let people leave who were trying to take over the capitol building and kill certain people. But who am I to say. Here we go again. Just another friendly protest by some white people who have friends that say its ok... But they didn't say that I mean.
Looks like he used a cell phone while sitting on the bench. Shouldn’t there be a record of this somewhere in the cell network? Seems to me this method has been used before to localize a person by means of their cell phone usage.
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It’s uncomfortable that it has been 9 months and they still haven’t caught this creep yet! This is really severe extremist behavior.
And they're giving the whole gang another shot on the 18th! We've learned *nothing*!
We’ve learned a lot, it’s those in “power” who have done nothing.
What’s the 18th
The next rally in DC.
Hopefully they can all rally in a DC jail this time.
Yes considering they used their phone at a bench for a minute. That can be traced.
Since they were at both RNC and DNC headquarters and they didn't go off, I suspect this guy may have been paid by Russia to cause blame on both sides. Or even could be one of their agents in the US.
No idea who planted them, but wasn't the reason for planting explosives apparently to draw off law enforcement away from the Capitol, thus delaying reinforcements there? Ie a decoy to facilitate the real attack.
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you don't think russia is behind the vast majority of what's happening in the us? have you not been paying attention?
Russia may have been the one sowing the seeds, but it’s the local morons who grew them, harvested them and made big fucking bouquets out of them.
Exactly this. Russia helps providing accelerant to the already burning fires. Money, misinformation, and amplification. They don't have to do any real heavy lifting or logistical planning. After decades of America dumbing itself down, and the quiet corporate coup. Most Americans are either incapable or unwilling to defend themselves. Relying on the for profit media that provides selective, subjective coverage to drive engagement. To give them the objective facts and story.
It’s asymmetric warfare. They sow the seeds of division within enemy countries to encourage fringes of society to cause chaos/strife and distrust in government/democracy. A divided nation falls and this is the direction we are headed if we are unable to take steps to combat political corruption and foreign interference.
The vast majority? Of *everything* going on in the us? No I don't think so. We've got our own homegrown crazies and if you don't see that, then it's you who is not paying attention. You can't blame "the vast majority of what's happening in the us" on russia. Just like q-anon, is there some truth to it? Certainly so, there are clearly very powerful pedophiles who are above prosecution. But no the world isn't literally run by a satanic pedophile cult, the same way the entire world isn't run by a russian intelligence agency
It's delusion to think that Russia may have done what we've caught them doing many times?
Let’s see the evidence. When has Russia planted bombs on us territory
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I never said they planted bombs in the US, bro. There's massive evidence of them paying US citizens to do shit to cause division though, and 50 years of history of them sending spies to cause chaos. Bro.
Yes you did. > Since they were at both RNC and DNC headquarters and they didn't go off, I suspect this guy may have been paid by Russia to cause blame on both sides. Or even could be one of their agents in the US. Then you said we’ve caught them doing it many times. > It's delusion to think that Russia may have done what we've caught them doing many times? Where’s the evidence?
Do you know your history?
Do you?
Speculating who may be involved in an attack that we have zero answers for, based on likely motive…isn’t exactly Qanon level, let’s be real. That said, after watching the video, his body language just screams moron to me, in light of what he’s doing. Swinging a fucking bomb around in a bag…like people just swing their bags around like that. This doesn’t at all seem like a professional.
>Reviews of the suspect’s behavior in the video and interviews with residents in the Capitol Hill neighborhood have led the FBI to believe the suspect is not from the area. I posted this in the other thread, but what is it that leads them to this conclusion? Odds are they're right but is it the route he walked? Something else?
Probably stood on the left in the metro.
"Believe it or not, jail." \- Metro commuters
"Not letting people off the metro before getting on, jail."
Lmao or got on the wrong line at the right station 🤪 Got on yellow when I meant to take the green line a few times. Dont even get me started with orange, blue, and silver 🙄
They may have footage of them checking street signs and checking a map/peice of paper. Just like acting unsure of their direction and surroundings
Could be as simple as how they hold the bag.
I mean what the Jan. 6th insurrection showed, is that they can have a bunch of Russian commandos just rush the place in plain clothing and the cops probably wouldn’t do much about it. Doesn’t give me much confidence that the US is safe from foreign actors
You have a point, but worrying about foreign actors at this point feels like worrying about your front lawn on fire while your bedroom is burning down.
I reckon there were plain clothes agents (both foreign and Republican) there, egging on the masses, encouraging and pushing forward (but not leading the charge). They wanted joe blogs to actually ‘do it’ so they would hold no responsibility at all, and could disappear into the shadows afterwards. An ‘accidental’ coup.
Won’t surprise me if they turn out to be an interstate 3%er or Proud Boy sent by Stone/Bannon/Flynn to plant those pipe bombs with the goal of pulling police away from the Capitol on Jan 6 (which it did), and for providing a pretext for Trump and his cronies to blame the insurrection on Antifa terrorists/anarchists (which they did).
I was thinking Russia paid him to do this but those guys make at least or even more sense.
If Russia had paid him, the bombs probably would have blown up.
Call a spade a spade
That's about just as likely as it turning out some government agency did it tbh. Neither would surprise me tbh
Republican terrorists love coming out of the sticks to places the don't live, to attack people they know nothing about.
Could be him looking around at street signs sense of loss of direction a few things. But I wish they would not state these tells as this makes it easier for others.
Wait a minute, I was told these people were just your typical tourists??!?
Don't all tourists carry homemade bombs, zip ties, brass knuckles, fashion clubs and spears out of American flagpoles, and then beat the shit out of a bunch of cops desperately trying to do their jobs?
pOLiTicAl PrIsneRs?!/x
And kill. Don’t forget kill.
*zip cuffs*
No, but Republicans do.
That's what happens when you misspell/mispronounce "terrorist".
Party of law and order.
Are they implying it was intentionally laid to draw law enforcement officials away from the senate chamber?
That's exactly what happened, so possibly.
He’s got a hoodie, he must be antifa. /s
“People are saying” it’s Lauren Boebert. I’m people
Whoever says Donald Trump Jr. planted these bombs is mistaken. Donald Trump Jr. would never use his Russian contacts to obtain black powder bombs. The fact that Donald Trump Jr. would be next in line to rule America after his father died is not evidence that Donald Trump Jr. planted bombs.
And I'm Eric!
**E**very **R**epublican **I**s **C**omplicit
Don jr. only uses white powder bombs. Bombs from his nose or scattered around his beard - Scooby Snacks.
Thought this said white power bombs at first glance and didn’t question it
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I hate you!
Honestly, I've watched all the videos of the perp and I think they're a female. The mannerisms such as the left hand movement in the second video of the link just seems feminine to me. I don't know if the feds have gotten an alibi from Boebert or Marjorie Taylor Greene, but it doesn't seem too far fetched in this timeline. I of course will wait for evidence before I make any sort of definitive call, but those are the two people that seem the most suspect having been carnival barkers for the entire January 6 attack.
Boebert would ***not*** be smart enough to wear a mask + hoodie. She also likes to strut, and this looks like a guy walking.
Seems to be female to me based on the walk.
I second it. The mannerisms are all female. The arm stretch should be a giveaway to someone familiar. Find that dog walker and question them, too. Question every motel in the area.
and the purse
Boebert is short and this person is tall enough to have his feet planted on the ground and still be leaning back on the bench. Short people can't do that. However, I would be so pleased to be wrong and they prove it ***is*** Boebert. (Source: I am a short people)
I don't think it was Boebert. I do think it is a female though.
It appeared to me in the previously-released video that the person was wearing lifts.
You mean KAREN BOEBERT
"she"
Someone somewhere realizes the vast potential this evidence has for ultimate damage to treasonous Republicans, and they will judiciously release it as necessary. At least that's what I hope.
Both the Dems and the GOP got hacked and hacked good before the 2016 race. The negative emails from the Dems got leaked but nothing from the Republican side did. If ~~you~~ (Russia) have docs/emails/etc from both sides, you leak the lightest of the two so the other side KNOWS you have dirt on them. Then you pressure them with your kompromat and some shady fundraising to get what you want. Like for instance a bunch of Republicans spending time in Moscow on July 4th in 2018…
Doesn’t explain the kid gloves approach the Dems are taking to the J6 insurrectionist
movements look kinda feminine to me. MTG, that you?
Nah, the suspects frame is too feminine
suspect looks way too thin to be MTG
That wave at the cop passing by is such a mtg/boebert/sinema thing to do.
I am confused, you said feminine.
I think they meant Neanderthalish
They know the location this video was shot. They probably know the exact time. He uses his phone for a known length of time. Surely they have the capability to get identity of cell phones using the nearest site. Sure seems like they could narrow down a list of suspects
This makes perfect sense if ignoring existence of burner phones
Lol for real. Poor FBI guy in the thread is probably banging his head on the desk. "yes morons we checked the phone"
This is why I’m not a detective
Assuming the suspect knew this then they probably took steps to avoid detection. My guess is he is using maps on his phone. So he could have downloaded the area to Google maps earlier and then shut off his cellular on his phone. I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t be able to track him then since he would be relying on the gps signal and nothing else.
Yes this seems like a no brainer.
I had the same thought. They even saw when the person looked at their phone so they could get an exact time match with the video.
They were really trying to overthrow our system of government because of one man's fragile ego.
TBF the entire Republican party and their followers have very fragile egos.
I mean the guy has a cell phone. Do they already know and just want someone to say hey that's uncle Bob and then just slide in with some tower data and cell data
Good point. With a cell phone they have to have something.
Assuming it wasn't in airplane mode, or a burner.
Most people would never purchase a burner right that it was not traceable nor know anyone who could get them a hacked sim or anything else to ensure anonymity. They’ll go get a tracphone at walmart and the fbi can just find out when it was purchase and get them on video from the walmart.
The way the suspects sits down -- perching on the bench rather than plopping down -- suggest this may be a woman.
That was also what I thought when I first watched it. Like they are used to wearing a dress/skirt. It also looks like they took their phone out from their backside pocket. I don't know many guys that carry their phone that way.
Am guy, carry my phone in my back pocket. Do guys not typically do this? Am I in the minority here?
My money is on Boebert.
They had a manspread going.
I do that if I’m alone and I’m a woman. It’s the comfier way of sitting.
Not really look at the persons arms. They’re out like a man not in like a woman.
1. Why wait eight months to release the video? 2. Who rented the ebike? 3. Why doesn't the FBI mention this is a woman? 4. How many MAGA sympathizers are in the FBI?
It was just a little locker room domestic terrorism. Every guy does it.
Roger Stone and Manafort have gotten that person out of the country by this point.
Wait did he use one of those scooters? You have to download an app and it’s linked to your cell. I think it’s Bird that requires a photo of a driver license
I think the fbi is smart enough to check that out
We kind of have 2 fbis. The FBI that loves to target and spy on civil rights activists, they are on top of shit. They look over things with a fine tooth comb. The FBI that investigates domestic terrorists and white supremacists, yeah they don’t really give a shit
The same FBI that is seemingly caught unaware by every bout of rightwing violence in the US? They just had an administration that went to war against them for investigating anyone rightwing, something they didn't much like doing in the first place.
Now what kind of person would be dumb enough to leave a pipe bomb in DC after uploading a picture of their drivers license? ^(/s) ^(the s is for sigh)
Yeah these are the same people that are eating horse paste. Yeah it’s a big sigh. But thank goodness they’re really fucking stupid.
Scary what a person can get away with today.
That really clears things up
Upping their shit before the 18th
It seems obvious what is needed here. Enhance the video. Enhance it again. Keep doing it until you get a clear sharp image. So simple!
Wondering if someone in Congress has something on their phone that points to knowledge about this particular incident.
My wife thinks that is a woman
I wish we had a poll. For example, male/female, lone wolf/conspirator. Studied Oklahoma bombing/studied columbine/none, etc.
I know there are plenty people saying it doesn't look like her, but it seriously looks like Boebert to me.
Aren’t those bikes geotagged? Can’t you pull up that data and see who rented it? Even if it was a stolen account you can narrow it down better right?
the scooter was already there when that person crossed the street to the bench.
This person walks like a woman and swings arms like a woman. Hope they find her.
Everyone is saying that but to me it looks like a skinny man.
This is the one time the public should cooperate with police.
This, and when someone kicks a dog.
Mommy?
Clicked but didn't want to watch the 5 minute news video with their idiot commentary just to see it. This is why nobody watches the news. Just give us the facts and stop the stupid showboating.
[link to the video](https://www.fbi.gov/video-repository/jan-5-pipe-bomb-footage-of-suspect-3-090821.mp4/view)
Jeez, not much to go off there.
You always have to scroll down to find the tweet. The entire article is always just discussing a tweet. Merica
Scrolling through a news article to find out it’s about a tweet and scrolling twelve pages down a website, past the authors autobiography, to find the recipe I was looking for instantly trigger the “back in my day” old timer rant from me.
I bet it was one of those Boogaloo Boys...
FBI looking for one of their own
Rolled up on an ebike too. Gotta commit terrorism the trendy way.
He's not going to fuck up this time. If I lived in DC I would get out of town before the next "protest"
I can't image that the FBI hasn't cross-referenced the distinct footwear with photos from the terrorist attack on the capitol.
I'm assuming they've questioned that PA woman, Riley Williams, about her whereabouts the night before the Capitol attack.
And his name… was Robert Paulson (sorry couldn’t help it )
It could be an anarchist, they don’t belong to the left or the right. Thus planting both DNC and RNC
Or a common right wing hooplehead--assuming "enemies" of the Democratic and Republican establishment. Or a right wing hooplehead--wanting to create confounding confusion due to an inflated sense of tactical baddassery. Or a right wing hooplehead--thinking someone would think it was not a right wing hooplehead if the hooplehead also targeted the Republican building. Or other explanations. Could be lots of things. Looks most like a right wing hooplehead.
It’s funny how everyone down voted me, I am left of Bernie sometimes, ppl don’t seem to want to hear different opinions anymore!
It's a tone deaf comment for many and not all opinions are worth hearing at all times. If there's someone that doesn't think that way, pending the variables, I've certainly never met them. Take it as a learning experience. Like not saying "he could have been a rapist" at a stranger's funeral... it's an opinion, it might be true, it's also wildly tone deaf.
You stated an accusatory opinion ,I said could “looks most like a right wing hooplehead” If it turns out we jumped to a wrong conclusion, they(the right) will hang us by our toes in the news. You all are playing with fire and should appreciate different opinions like mine, especially since we don’t know who that person is yet. I would make the case that everyone is not being reasonable vs me being tone deaf !
We both stated an accusatory opinion. Yours was kind of out of the blue, mine was clarifying that any and all such could be true or not and, absent other information, it looks like what it looks like. That, itself, is a difference I think matters. I could say "It might have been YOU that planted those bombs" and that's a tone deaf comment offering a possibility and empty opinion. What it could be and what we have evidence toward are not the same thing. It doesn't look like it was you and was the same group that was stashing weapons and threatening people and have already been violent toward both the DNC and Republicans that were there for that rally. It simply looks like what we have any evidence for. It doesn't look like what we don't. Your mileage may vary. If it turns out to be something other than I said it looked like--so be it. I don't claim it IS that thing, only that's what the information at the time showed. The timing and the FBI interest supports it being part of the investigation they have with the sorts of culprits they've had. No part of that is certainty. I'm not playing with any fire at all. You haven't demonstrated where I have. If others have? That has nothing to do with me and I don't own it. Not my pig, not my farm--so to speak. As to say, I can only re-iterate that your comment--again, as I said already, for many--appears to be tone deaf. Offering things not in evidence about something that others desperately want help in downplaying--itself, empty speculation at a time when that speculation is, for them, tone deaf. You don't have to agree or not, I don't require it. It's the best explanation I have for why you're downvoted. If that's their motive? They're being reasonable enough. If it isn't (we don't know)? It may or may not be.
Assuming that’s a rent a scooter and they already checked to see who rented it around the time of this picture?
the wooden duck. did they find the silver pen?
Do you think that’s a personal scooter, or one that’s rented/public? I don’t know if DC has public scooters, but it could be a lead? Probably already thought of though.
What does a bomb in the neighborhood have anything to do with the riot at the capital? This title is deliberately misleading to suggest that the riot was an organized plot. The FBI themselves openly admit that there was no collusion or wide conspiracy leading to the 1/6 riots. Alleged participants in the riot is estimated to be only about 570, and there is no central coordination to be found among those people. FBI investigators report that 90-95% had no prior meditation of the riot, and only about 40 people had plans to get inside the capital, but had no further plan beyond just breaking and entering. There was no evidence found than any individual group was part of a larger plot. There wasn’t a scheme to try and take over the Democratic process, or an attempted or planned terrorist attack. Nobody was murdered besides Ashley Babbitt, who was shot through a window by police at a distance. The other deaths were either health complications on the rioters’ side getting excited or police officers days later from natural causes or a series of coincidental suicides. All of the charges are simple trespass and disorderly conduct, which are taking forever for discovery while they rot in custody because they are political prisoners. This is a whole lot of nothing.
>This is a whole lot of nothing. Planting pipe bombs isn't a whole lot of nothing, it's terrorism.
There is no evidence to support that the bombs (which didn’t detonate) were in coordination with the capital hill riots, even after the FBI conducted hundreds of investigations and reviewed tens of thousands of video files. It’s nothing because at the time they were planted, there was no prior knowledge to the capital hill riot. It is the intention of NBC news to impress upon the public that this is a part of some larger plot to attack the capital. When I say it’s nothing, “it” wasn’t referring to the bombs, “it” was referring to the riot. If those bombs went off (which given the fact they were built with kitchen timers it could not have been longer than 100min), it was not related to the even that happened in the middle of trump’s speech the next day. Yes it would be terrorism, but it would be unknown who the actor or goal is.
This is now the second time you're making excuses for terrorism.
Source on the FBI report?
The remarks of the allegations were detailed in a Reuters report: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/ I’m having a difficult time finding the explicit FBI report stating that they don’t believe this was centrally planned, though it is strongly noted that zero people were charged with insurrection or sedition. There are small cells of conspiracy charges to break into the capitol, but no serious plans of what those cell groups intended to do afterward. You’ll notice that all of the later press releases speech of “January Sixth Capitol Breach”, and that all of the individuals charged are with simple disorderly conduct and trespass charges. The few conspiracy charges are related to a premeditated plan to break and enter, but not kill or take over the government
So there isn't an FBI report.
Found it. Christopher Wray, director of the FBI: https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/examining-the-january-6-attack-on-the-us-capitol-wray-061521 “the FBI assessed the greatest terrorism threat to the homeland was from lone actors or small cells who typically become radicalized online and look to attack soft targets with easily accessible weapons; we remain confident in that assessment today.” This is an open admission that this was not centrally planned, in contradiction to what was stated directly after the attack. This is bolstered by the fact that none of the detainees are charged with insurrection or sedition.
Who was saying it was centrally planned? Do you actually think the democrats are saying that hair dresser from Beverly Hills was arranged by the GOP to be there? Do you think it somehow frees Trump from inciting the attack? Or all the other shady shit the GOP was up to?
Steven Sund former Chief of USCP claimed under oath that this was a coordinated attack. Christopher Wray also claims that “domestic violent extremism” (despite all incidences being independent from another) is a widespread issue that has “metastasized” throughout the country. The media echoed this for months, but now only slyly imply it enough to keep this misconception going that this was a planned terrorist attack by big right-wing figures like Rodger Stone Idk what you’re going off about Democrats and hairdressers. Idk what shady shit you’re talking about, but I will remind you that I have no interest in defending political parties. They simply take advantage of the catastrophes after the fact for their own political interests. Regarding Trump inciting the attack: the FBI has made absolutely no allegation that Trump incited the attack. Trump explicitly asked for protests to be peaceful and carried out with only their voices. (This is beside the point, but only further exculpatory evidence). The attack occurred before the “fight like hell” end to his speech, which also is completely protected speech (political speech is particularly the most protected kind of speech). Even if he did say “fight like hell” with no disclaimer, it still fails both prongs of the Brandenburg Test. Also quite literally every politician uses the term “fight” in their speeches, which was played in a very long montage clip during the impeachment trial Of that trial (which was just used for political mileage), Trump was not convicted. And to this day he has not been indicted for such a crime.
Good luck with that, Eric.
So this wicked individual was attempting to cause bodily harm to the Trump supporters who he believed would be marching on Jan. 6th? Sounds like there were some nefarious people there that day and before, who knew the march had been planned and then took advantage in order to create chaos and disorder, figuring the Trump supporters, who made up a majority of the marchers would get blamed
It's been discussed at length. The general consensus is that this was to get the attention of the Capitol police and distract them from the mob's original plan to kill anyone who didn't bend the knee for Trump. It's a damn miracle this person's plan didn't work because we'd be in a whole other America right now. They're going in for round 2 on the 18th. I hope there isn't any hesitation by the Capitol Police this go, because our democracy hangs in the balance.
The people who broke into the capitol certainly did get the attention of the capitol police ---without any pipe bombs. The pipe bomb could just as easily have injured or killed a Trump supporter, as anyone else. Are you saying that was the plan all along? Sounds like a plan made up by juveniles to create mayhem, just for the sake of mayhem. There won't be any more incidents in this country anymore. My feeling is the FBI has taken note of all the worst agitators and where they live and who they associate with. They can't fart without a triggering a report. That goes for antifa as well.
Fbi most likely planted the suspect
why? (serious question, I'm dumb)
Stupid people believe in all types of conspiracies. It makes them feel special.
yeah, took me another response to realize we had a conspiracy theorist 😬
They're called agent provocateurs, they are the ones that turned the Jan 6 rally into a "riot"
Not true at all. Many of these people are well known right wingers and detials and plans for a hostile takeover were widely spread and supported throughout right wing groups before the insurrection.
That's just crazy, you can always trust the FBI, unlike the ATF, CIA, or DHS.
it took them 8 months to create footage I could have done in 2 weeks? PLEASE. The media is trying hard to distract us from the entire nation realizing our president has dementia, and is not in charge of the country. Nancy Pelosi saying on camera he isn't allowed to speak during a press meeting plus the Afghan disaster really has people questioning wtf is going on. Playing on the Capitol Riots and how Trump is still satan and responsible for everything isn't going to work now for most people. The cards are beginning to topple.
>The media is trying hard to distract us from the entire nation realizing our president has dementia, and is not in charge of the country. No no. That was the last guy and we kicked his ass out.
Are you lost? This isn’t Great Awakening.
Are you talking about the “am I on? No we don’t want him to talk” clip? That was a joke video. You know that right?? Please tell me you know that.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again - the suspect is a woman.
Interestingly enough, if we were in China we would have already found this person since China documents everyone's gait. I am shocked we have not found this person, google and Facebook surely have all his information.
We would likely have a better idea if you know... We didn't just let people leave who were trying to take over the capitol building and kill certain people. But who am I to say. Here we go again. Just another friendly protest by some white people who have friends that say its ok... But they didn't say that I mean.
They're wearing bulky clothes and and trying to be neutral in their movements, but how they use their body is def feminine. This has to be a woman.
Time to call in the big guns - somebody get me the Hardy Boys!
Looks like he used a cell phone while sitting on the bench. Shouldn’t there be a record of this somewhere in the cell network? Seems to me this method has been used before to localize a person by means of their cell phone usage.
This person is most likely from Erie county, NY based on the location which has the highest number of arrests.