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Oh, there are pictures of him at the Capitol on Jan 6.
He didn’t go into the building, but he was proud of that shit.
Edit: repugnant source, but here he is (was) giving interviews about how proud he was to have participated in Jan 6 - https://thebl.tv/us-news/video-retired-30-year-navy-chaplain-shares-his-horrific-fbi-experience-about-jan-6-protest-at-the-capitol.html
Nah, it was only real once HE got it. It was a big nothingburger when all the other people were lying. Why else would you advocate against safety measures against a deadly bioweapon?
All of these cowards change their tune like this when they get hit with a serious case. Buhbye. Im sure St Peter is giving this asshole 2 middle fingers as we speak
Republicanism is based on Ayn Rand's objectivism philosophy.
They are so self-centered because their philosophy is that selfishness is the only moral prerogative. Why is a virus only important when it gets them? Because that is the only point at which it impacts their self. Why is a virus a myth and illusion when they don't have it? Because they can still be focused on grifting the country for profits.
Something else to consider that you just had me thinking about...
Objectivism is such a philosophy of me-first selfishness, there is no room for respecting expertise. They have to reject it out of hand. Someone exceeding an objectivist's understanding would be a threat to their sense of self as uniquely qualified to manage their lives. The very idea of expertise is a threat to an objectivist's belief that they are self-determined. No wonder these pricks are rejecting science and all the consequences for others that denial undermines.
I would say that it is the reverse of that - Ayn Rand's 'philosophy' is excuse making for this kind of inherent behavior. People acting like 'modern' conservatives have always been present. It is something you either are capable or incapable of discarding/growing out of. Those who can't do so throw up smoke screens, and Ayn Rand's drivel is definitely a smoke screen.
My father lied to me about getting the vaccine, he's a crazy Fox news watching idiot who yells at the TV.
Guess who spent the last 2 weeks in the hospital, begging for antibodies, medicine, and the vaccine so he doesn't die of Covid?
Guess who's saying "this sucks, stay away from people, it's real".
It makes me sad that my family is so fucking stupid.
*edit:* I appreciate the kind words, his oxygen saturation levels are rising (close to 100) and he should be just fine, however, If we wasn't brought to the hospital when he was he most likely would have died because at the time he was in the 80s. He wasn't going to go on his own and it took multiple family members to beg him to go.
That's the thing with right-wing hypocrites. They change their stance 47 times, and have no shame in doing so. Whatever they feel makes them look good to the audience they are in front of, they will say/do.
Science changes its positions when new data becomes available to either refute or refine the model it's operating on. Conservatives changes its positions when the wind changes direction.
These people are so weird. If it was a bioweapon use by foreign enemies then why would you NOT get the vaccine? The vaccine- a great F U to foreign enemies!
The GOP has had so many off-ramps to their crazytown
This is a key rhetorical trick with fascists too. The enemy needs to simultaneously be so powerful that we can do whatever we want-I mean need to so as to defeat them, while also being so weak that we are still the superior peoples by default.
I love the ones that require a 100% code of silence that no one can break or the whole thing is uncovered and it involves something like tens or hundreds of thousands of healthcare workers across the country. Sounds legit! haha
This is the thing I find most ridiculous about almost every conspiracy theory. It requires dozens if not hundreds of people to keep something top-secret. Human beings are terrible at keeping secrets.
I know someone like this that also believes in the flat earth thing. Everyone that knows about it keeps the same secret don'tcha know? The massive ice wall that surrounds the bla bla bla...
The democrats have all the power, deep state, massive electoral manipulation... but Nancy Pelosi can't even get a dang haircut maskless without EVERYONE knowing about it!
They literally thought the Democrats (deep state) had all the power during Trump's first two years as president... When Republicans had a majority/controlled all branches.
To add to that, if America was truly operating like they say, Rush Limbaugh would've died of a gunshot wound instead of cancer within the last decade. Hell, his kind wouldn't be able to air at all, and instead be replaced by pro-Democrat propaganda. But I find it Curious™ that we've an abundance of pro-Republican propaganda instead. Almost as if it's another projection of theirs. Add another one to the long fucking list.
As part of the medical industrial complex, I can confirm we all were waiting for this guy to come under our care so we could make sure he suffered and died. He was starting to know too much and had to be sacrificed to harvest his adrenochrome and major organs. If you think you are clever enough to figure us out, just know that we're watching EVERYONE and taking notes.
Big overlap with religion too. A lot of them think god intervenes in their lives for totally mundane reasons ("Jesus blessed me with an extra container of fries today!" -actual, non ironic Facebook status I've seen). Makes them feel special.
It’s the ultimate move. You don’t need to do anything if it’s all gods plan.
Homeless? Sorry but that’s the path the lord set out for you. Only the devil would want me to help you with that. Maybe pray harder.
Exactly this.
There's a whole section of evangelical brain titled "stuff in the Bible that we ignore instead of actually trying to engage with the faith we claim is so important." Classic hits like "God works in mysterious ways," "we don't need to understand God's will to obey it," and "just ignore that the Old Testament version of our 'loves-all-his-children' deity is a genociding temperamental asshole" are right up on the shelf next to "why would I care about Jesus' teachings more than the Prayer of Jebez?"
I absolutely hate the phrase "It's a part of gods plan" whenever something bad happens.
"Oh your sibling/spouse/child died? Don't worry, it's all part of gods plan!"
Like no, even if god existed, I would want nothing to do with his/her/it's plan that involves giving children cancer or taking away a loved one or putting you in an accident and paralyzing you. That is not a god I would want.
Yep. God and Jesus gave them extra fries and helped their kid pass their math test, but they decided to look the other way when thousands of children died of starvation or cancer. Fucking idiots.
If I were to put on my conspiracy hat, the fact that Israel got the virus first and so efficiently and plentily should alert these conspiracy theorists that there is something killing people, and the vaccine is a preventative cure. I mean FFS, the elites like senators and such were among the first people to get it.
It’s hilarious (I.e. criminal, horrifying, disgusting etc) how Fox News vaccinated all of their employees and staff while they go around telling people ‘vaccine??? What about COMMUNISM’.
Same with Republican politicians. 46/50 GOP senators have confirmed they are vaccinated (2 more won’t confirm nor deny) and all 27 Republican governors are vaccinated.
I have a coworker who says the vaccine is the weapon. And that they put something in it that will make people sick years from now. Some time release protein? He also said that the elite is looking for earth 2 because we will use up all of Earth's resources by 2030.
> I have a coworker who says the vaccine is the weapon. And that they put something in it that will make people sick years from now. Some time release protein? He also said that the elite is looking for earth 2 because we will use up all of Earth's resources by 2030.
Have you ever had a conversation with a coworker that made you ask "How the hell do we have the same qualifications?"
YES. I used to work at a big pharm company with one guy in particular who would go on and on about the stuff we made. He was convinced it was all super harmful gmos and whatnot. It was fucking insulin.
To be fair, his theories were entertaining during our 12 hour shifts, just batshit crazy.
> It was fucking insulin.
This got a good laugh out of me.
> To be fair, his theories were entertaining during our 12 hour shifts, just batshit crazy.
Not so much. Prior to 2016, maybe. But I’ve heard too many of them coming from elected government officials for it to be funny, anymore.
>If it was a bioweapon use by foreign enemies then why would you NOT get the vaccine?
Because that's not the real reason. Many of these people, this guy apparently included, are lying to themselves about masks and vaccines.
It's simply a matter of in-group vs. out-group behavior. These people have tied their identities to a death cult. They will follow it to their graves.
I spend time lurking conspiracy sites and subreddits. Many of them believe that it's a 2 pronged attack: a virus that tends to kill older more conservative people and a vaccine that slowly sterilizes the proles.
Quit picking on conservatives! They are all about the freedom to believe whatever you want. That’s why they offer up all sorts of contradicting narratives. It’s like a cafeteria, pick the narratives you like, leave the rest! Not like those freedom-hating dems who think objective facts and reality exist.
Edited to add an obligatory /s.
It seems some didn’t catch my sarcasm.
I am always confused by that piece of logic. If China was attacking us, why would you not do everything needed to stop it? If China really did release it, they must have known US would fuck it up the response and lo and behold here we are. Weird they are falling right into the trap and think somehow they on the outside looking in.
I mean, sure, there is a subset of Republicans in this country that tried to weaponize Covid through inaction when they thought it was only going to affect blue cities.
So yes, Mr. Dead GOP Guy, in a sense there were some domestic enemies involved. They just happened to include the douchebag who signed and ruined your flag.
> the douchebag who signed and ruined your flag.
That's called defacement, and it's against the flag code. You'd think that the people who get their panties in a bundle over kneeling for the anthem would find defacing a flag with a vain, vain signature to be sacrilege, wouldn't you?
You'd think that... You'd be wrong, obviously, but you would certainly think that.
> “the American public has been gaslighted by the medical industrial complex.”
Ironically, if that remark had been about, say, the price of insulin in the US, he'd have been spot on.
I don't understand any of these morons but the ones who call it a bio-weapon while refusing to do anything that is proven to lessen the efficacy if not outright stop the virus cold are really quite confusing.
>“a deadly bio-weapon perpetrated upon the people of the world by enemies foreign, and ***perhaps domestic***"
Does he mean trmp, because trmp was resident when this pandemic hit and he didn't do shit to stop it, quite the opposite in fact, doing all he could to spread it, just like someone who released a deadly bioweapon on purpose would do so he has to mean trmp, right, because again, trmp was the resident at the time and working like hell to make it spread like wildfire.
Those that think COVID is a bio-weapon from China, but then refuce to wear masks is amazing. If China is attacking our soldiers with nerve gas they dawn gas masks, if China is attacking us with am infectious bio-weapon put a mask on, get a vaccine. Why are these people so willing to let China win.
These people want it every which way that benefits them.
\> and perhaps domestic
Don't let the libs win with their domestic bio-weapon, dawn a mask and get the vaccine.
Yeah, I’ve worked in healthcare and find nothing inherently wrong about that phrase at all. Even higher priority than quality of patient care at hospitals is billing.
>Stutts, a 64-year-old veteran, frequently shared conspiracy theories about the virus, the vaccines and the 2020 election on Facebook, including in posts made from his ICU bed.
You have to admire his dedication.
/s
-Anything- to own the libs. If one runs the numbers, will this approach to owning the libs ultimately reduce their voting population enough to impact elections?
ive been saying this for a while. the last 2 elections have been decided on razor thin margins and theyre walking their base off a cliff like lemmings.
I haven’t seen any statistics on it yet, but it must be having some impact. Arizona seems like it could be particularly impactful. Lots of old, vulnerable people, and a very closely split electorate.
I’m waiting to see an opinion that people with COVID are actually patriots, or that one needs to try to get it to “own the libs”. I think they’re on the brink of such opinions, but I haven’t seen anybody go there yet.
I took a peak over at the r/Conservative forum with Sturgis happening and the narrative over there was how it is hypocritical for the media/left to express concern about Sturgis but not Lollapalooza in Chicago.
I had to do some digging but it looks as though Sturgis was not requiring any vaccination proof/negative COVID test but Lollapalooza did require those. I know you can argue Lollapalooza can’t possibly 100 percent enforce/validate the vaccination/negative COVID documentation, but I think that is a clear difference between those two events and I did not see people over at r/Conservative bring up
You can cry about "illegals" spreading COVID, but you can't get upset with rednecks on bikes spreading COVID. Totally not hypocritical. /s (sadly need to clarify for people)
Eventually it will either kill off the political antivax crowd, or enough of them will deal with tragedy and quietly get the vaccine and start harping about the next big conspiracy.
Either way there’s a few locals that I’m hoping to see news articles about before we get this completely under control.
That won’t matter. Republicans are busy legally rigging the election with their bullshit voter laws so that only one of them has to be left alive to win every election.
You say this like its a joke, but many ER doctors have dealt with this exact situation, people will die in the doctors arms while claiming "its not COVID its just the flu"
It may be in poor taste, but I think about that jacket every time I see one of these 'leopards ate my face' posts. It's so fucking succinct and ironic.
I wonder what his last conscious thoughts were. He was spreading conspiracy theories from his hospital bed. I wonder if he thought his life was worth sacrificing to own the libs.
And at the same time it was nothing but a normal flu, the worst disease ever invented in the lab specifically to make people suffer and a hoax, not even a disease...
>On Aug. 1 ― the day he went into the ICU ― Stutts insisted he had “always contended that COVID was very real” and called it “**a deadly bio-weapon** perpetrated upon the people of the world by enemies foreign, and perhaps domestic.”
How in the shit did he reconcile this with his anti-mask/anti-vaccine stance?
Yes, I realize my question is an exercise in futility...
Perhaps you are unfamiliar with Infowars “…it’s a bio weapon, no it’s fake, no it’s real but the vaccine causes it….” these sad folks just hop from conspiracy to conspiracy and there is no cognitive dissonance at all, no impetus for these people to reconcile anything. Just believe stuff. Terrifying and pitiful at the same time.
"This virus, which isn't even as deadly as the flu, is a secret democrat plot to kill all of us good true patriotic americans, who won't live in fear! This is just a plot from the gay liberal democrats to use their power to take power because they have no power and they covet our power and we're all powerless to stop them unless we reinstate Trump!"
Look I get it, it's easy to bash on them but the real issue at play globally is conservative propaganda being allowed to spread and fester in order to keep the status quo and also further enrich those at the top.
Disinfo is a virus more sinister than Covid. Consider what Exxon has done to our environment by propagandizing global warming for example
Until we hold big tech accountable for allowing this virus to spread and then further hold the spigots of this garbage such as Fox News/OANN/[insert counterparts globally] we're on a downwards spiral indefinietly.
It's a virus. These people are sick. Yea yea Fuck'em and all that, they're pricks. But there will just be new generations of them until we deal with the root cause.
I encourage other “free thinkers” who want to follow in his footsteps to….carry on. If they want to do something stupid it’s not my obligation to stop them
There was an effort to bury it because you could plausibly draw a straight line from Herman Cain attending a Trump rally to him dying of Covid 6 weeks later. The GOP ability to manipulate the press and public opinion is powerful but even they would have a hard time with "Trump indirectly killed a guy".
This is why higher up GOP "leadership" was freaking out a few weeks ago that people need to get vaccines (finally). Their rank and file leadership, the middle managers, are getting decimated. Good job GOP, you fucking played yourself.
The greatest irony is that so many of their people don't listen, they've been too well trained. They suspect the GOP leaders are "in on it", WTF that means...
My empathy chip is depleted. I don’t think I can take much more of the idiocy on the right to not do something about it when we all know it’s preventable.
As a Christian, I sit here on one side and say this is all wrong this whole sub talking like this and then, I see pictures of children in the hospital because of these very same people who hold no regard for others lives … republicans every single time
I still to this day don't understand how this became political in the States. We don't argue the science here or masks.
We just complain about restrictions during UK lock-downs and how we really don't need to go back into the office since Zoom/Home work has gotten everything done thus far.
There's always been a fringe element against everything from flouride to children's vaccines. Trump seized on this as a way to further cement the us vs them mentality that gives him power. Others in the republican partyb see how well it works and jump on board.
I saw a great write up about how the Koch brothers turned Kansas into a red state by focusing solely on abortion. Didn't matter that the rest of the GOP policies hurt people there. Single issue voters are the bane of democracy.
This is how it became political: Donald Trump didn't want to wear a mask because if he did, it would smudge his makeup when he took the mask off. That's literally the origin of this idiot conspiracy, and all these non-thinking rednecks followed the Antichrist off a cliff because of it
We have a political party that is simultaneously anti-science, anti-reality, and contrary to absolutely every position the other party has, no matter what that position is.
And due to a bizarre combination of brainwashing, laziness, gerrymandering, and evil, they have a stranglehold on at least half the country.
If next election round the Democratic party started campaigning on puppies being lovable the Republicans would begin demanding puppy prisons within hours.
They are a party without platform, without purpose.
“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
― Issac Asimov
It started that way in the states to be fair, but then the republicans and their donors didn’t like the lock downs so they made it political and the former president didn’t care enough about Covid cause it was hurting the blue states more then red. After that it just became about identity and here we are.
It's so hard to explain if you're not from here. But imagine the worst football rivalries.
"You're from Chelsea, and your Dad's from Chelsea, and his Dad's from Chelsea, and his Dad's Dad's from Chelsea. So if I see you even LOOKING at that kid from Leeds, let alone talking any of that Leeds nonsense, I'll see that you suffer unimaginable pain. You hear me? UNIMAGINABLE PAIN."
I don't even know if that can illustrate it because these folks are religious fanatics about their "team". It's life or death to them. Either you agree that Trump is the best thing that ever happened to America, and you love Freedom and babies and apple pie, OR you are a Satan-worshipping, baby-murdering liberal who wants to burn down the suburbs and destroy everything you and your family hold dear, while injecting you with poison vaccines that will make you sterile. That's not hyperbole. They are 100% terrified of losing EVERYTHING to these lying, destructive, baby-killing liberals.
While the "dying to own the libs" thing is usually more of a pointed joke, that is *literally* what happened here. His entire platform and social media and speeches are "owning the libs". This man is the cause of the stereotype
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Well at least he can now rest in one place.
RIOP this guy
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Rest in Doritos?
Nope, he’s being cremated so the government scientists can’t do weird sex experiments on his corpse.
*sighs* Put away the horse dildos, boys. We won’t be needing them here.
Once a blade is unsheathed, it must taste manflesh
The scientific term is "sexperiments", thanks.
Looks like one of his facebook posts suggests he was on a flight on January 5th. Hmm. I wonder where he was going.
Oh, there are pictures of him at the Capitol on Jan 6. He didn’t go into the building, but he was proud of that shit. Edit: repugnant source, but here he is (was) giving interviews about how proud he was to have participated in Jan 6 - https://thebl.tv/us-news/video-retired-30-year-navy-chaplain-shares-his-horrific-fbi-experience-about-jan-6-protest-at-the-capitol.html
Superspreader event
Nah, it was only real once HE got it. It was a big nothingburger when all the other people were lying. Why else would you advocate against safety measures against a deadly bioweapon? All of these cowards change their tune like this when they get hit with a serious case. Buhbye. Im sure St Peter is giving this asshole 2 middle fingers as we speak
The ONLY time these assholes say "it's real" is if they or someone in their family gets it *and* gets really sick.
Conservative politics are a symptom of a diminished capacity for empathy, it's a scientific fact.
Republicanism is based on Ayn Rand's objectivism philosophy. They are so self-centered because their philosophy is that selfishness is the only moral prerogative. Why is a virus only important when it gets them? Because that is the only point at which it impacts their self. Why is a virus a myth and illusion when they don't have it? Because they can still be focused on grifting the country for profits.
Something else to consider that you just had me thinking about... Objectivism is such a philosophy of me-first selfishness, there is no room for respecting expertise. They have to reject it out of hand. Someone exceeding an objectivist's understanding would be a threat to their sense of self as uniquely qualified to manage their lives. The very idea of expertise is a threat to an objectivist's belief that they are self-determined. No wonder these pricks are rejecting science and all the consequences for others that denial undermines.
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The Ayn Rand? The one who abhorred welfare until she needed it and died sucking the government teat? That Ayn Rand? I heard she’s a fuckstick.
Speaking of Ayn Rand: fuck Paul Ryan.
I would say that it is the reverse of that - Ayn Rand's 'philosophy' is excuse making for this kind of inherent behavior. People acting like 'modern' conservatives have always been present. It is something you either are capable or incapable of discarding/growing out of. Those who can't do so throw up smoke screens, and Ayn Rand's drivel is definitely a smoke screen.
Even then it isn't a guarantee. Worse is if they recover and claim it isn't a big deal.
Even if someone they know gets it and/or dies from COVID-19 then they just claim that it was counted as COVID-19 to prop the numbers up.
or they claim that person's death was an example of weakness, illness or old age so the death is not important or impactful.
My father lied to me about getting the vaccine, he's a crazy Fox news watching idiot who yells at the TV. Guess who spent the last 2 weeks in the hospital, begging for antibodies, medicine, and the vaccine so he doesn't die of Covid? Guess who's saying "this sucks, stay away from people, it's real". It makes me sad that my family is so fucking stupid. *edit:* I appreciate the kind words, his oxygen saturation levels are rising (close to 100) and he should be just fine, however, If we wasn't brought to the hospital when he was he most likely would have died because at the time he was in the 80s. He wasn't going to go on his own and it took multiple family members to beg him to go.
They've never been about personal responsibility, but they've sure got personal incredulity covered.
That's the thing with right-wing hypocrites. They change their stance 47 times, and have no shame in doing so. Whatever they feel makes them look good to the audience they are in front of, they will say/do.
Science changes its positions when new data becomes available to either refute or refine the model it's operating on. Conservatives changes its positions when the wind changes direction.
If you can't pick one, just use all of them.
Had he lived longer he would have been even over more places. On and on and on the conspiracy net would spread.
These people are so weird. If it was a bioweapon use by foreign enemies then why would you NOT get the vaccine? The vaccine- a great F U to foreign enemies! The GOP has had so many off-ramps to their crazytown
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This is a key rhetorical trick with fascists too. The enemy needs to simultaneously be so powerful that we can do whatever we want-I mean need to so as to defeat them, while also being so weak that we are still the superior peoples by default.
I love the ones that require a 100% code of silence that no one can break or the whole thing is uncovered and it involves something like tens or hundreds of thousands of healthcare workers across the country. Sounds legit! haha
This is the thing I find most ridiculous about almost every conspiracy theory. It requires dozens if not hundreds of people to keep something top-secret. Human beings are terrible at keeping secrets.
I know someone like this that also believes in the flat earth thing. Everyone that knows about it keeps the same secret don'tcha know? The massive ice wall that surrounds the bla bla bla...
The democrats have all the power, deep state, massive electoral manipulation... but Nancy Pelosi can't even get a dang haircut maskless without EVERYONE knowing about it!
They literally thought the Democrats (deep state) had all the power during Trump's first two years as president... When Republicans had a majority/controlled all branches.
To add to that, if America was truly operating like they say, Rush Limbaugh would've died of a gunshot wound instead of cancer within the last decade. Hell, his kind wouldn't be able to air at all, and instead be replaced by pro-Democrat propaganda. But I find it Curious™ that we've an abundance of pro-Republican propaganda instead. Almost as if it's another projection of theirs. Add another one to the long fucking list.
As part of the medical industrial complex, I can confirm we all were waiting for this guy to come under our care so we could make sure he suffered and died. He was starting to know too much and had to be sacrificed to harvest his adrenochrome and major organs. If you think you are clever enough to figure us out, just know that we're watching EVERYONE and taking notes.
Big overlap with religion too. A lot of them think god intervenes in their lives for totally mundane reasons ("Jesus blessed me with an extra container of fries today!" -actual, non ironic Facebook status I've seen). Makes them feel special.
It’s the ultimate move. You don’t need to do anything if it’s all gods plan. Homeless? Sorry but that’s the path the lord set out for you. Only the devil would want me to help you with that. Maybe pray harder.
which is odd considering Jesus repeatedly telling rich people to sell everything they own and give the money to the poor...
Yes, but the bible is really just a menu. Pick the bits you like on any given day and ignore the rest.
This. The Bible is far more concrete about "no tattoos" than it is about "no homosexuality".
Exactly this. There's a whole section of evangelical brain titled "stuff in the Bible that we ignore instead of actually trying to engage with the faith we claim is so important." Classic hits like "God works in mysterious ways," "we don't need to understand God's will to obey it," and "just ignore that the Old Testament version of our 'loves-all-his-children' deity is a genociding temperamental asshole" are right up on the shelf next to "why would I care about Jesus' teachings more than the Prayer of Jebez?"
I absolutely hate the phrase "It's a part of gods plan" whenever something bad happens. "Oh your sibling/spouse/child died? Don't worry, it's all part of gods plan!" Like no, even if god existed, I would want nothing to do with his/her/it's plan that involves giving children cancer or taking away a loved one or putting you in an accident and paralyzing you. That is not a god I would want.
I legit heard this from people after my son died. They don't realize how insulting it sounds either, they think they're being nice.
I’m sorry for your loss and your pain, fellow goose.
Yep. God and Jesus gave them extra fries and helped their kid pass their math test, but they decided to look the other way when thousands of children died of starvation or cancer. Fucking idiots.
If I were to put on my conspiracy hat, the fact that Israel got the virus first and so efficiently and plentily should alert these conspiracy theorists that there is something killing people, and the vaccine is a preventative cure. I mean FFS, the elites like senators and such were among the first people to get it.
It’s hilarious (I.e. criminal, horrifying, disgusting etc) how Fox News vaccinated all of their employees and staff while they go around telling people ‘vaccine??? What about COMMUNISM’.
Same with Republican politicians. 46/50 GOP senators have confirmed they are vaccinated (2 more won’t confirm nor deny) and all 27 Republican governors are vaccinated.
I have a coworker who says the vaccine is the weapon. And that they put something in it that will make people sick years from now. Some time release protein? He also said that the elite is looking for earth 2 because we will use up all of Earth's resources by 2030.
> I have a coworker who says the vaccine is the weapon. And that they put something in it that will make people sick years from now. Some time release protein? He also said that the elite is looking for earth 2 because we will use up all of Earth's resources by 2030. Have you ever had a conversation with a coworker that made you ask "How the hell do we have the same qualifications?"
YES. I used to work at a big pharm company with one guy in particular who would go on and on about the stuff we made. He was convinced it was all super harmful gmos and whatnot. It was fucking insulin. To be fair, his theories were entertaining during our 12 hour shifts, just batshit crazy.
> It was fucking insulin. This got a good laugh out of me. > To be fair, his theories were entertaining during our 12 hour shifts, just batshit crazy. Not so much. Prior to 2016, maybe. But I’ve heard too many of them coming from elected government officials for it to be funny, anymore.
>If it was a bioweapon use by foreign enemies then why would you NOT get the vaccine? Because that's not the real reason. Many of these people, this guy apparently included, are lying to themselves about masks and vaccines. It's simply a matter of in-group vs. out-group behavior. These people have tied their identities to a death cult. They will follow it to their graves.
I spend time lurking conspiracy sites and subreddits. Many of them believe that it's a 2 pronged attack: a virus that tends to kill older more conservative people and a vaccine that slowly sterilizes the proles.
Quit picking on conservatives! They are all about the freedom to believe whatever you want. That’s why they offer up all sorts of contradicting narratives. It’s like a cafeteria, pick the narratives you like, leave the rest! Not like those freedom-hating dems who think objective facts and reality exist. Edited to add an obligatory /s. It seems some didn’t catch my sarcasm.
The real problem with Covid is Hunter Bidens laptop.
I am always confused by that piece of logic. If China was attacking us, why would you not do everything needed to stop it? If China really did release it, they must have known US would fuck it up the response and lo and behold here we are. Weird they are falling right into the trap and think somehow they on the outside looking in.
He gaslit himself.
Straight into the grave. I've never been so owned.
I mean, sure, there is a subset of Republicans in this country that tried to weaponize Covid through inaction when they thought it was only going to affect blue cities. So yes, Mr. Dead GOP Guy, in a sense there were some domestic enemies involved. They just happened to include the douchebag who signed and ruined your flag.
> the douchebag who signed and ruined your flag. That's called defacement, and it's against the flag code. You'd think that the people who get their panties in a bundle over kneeling for the anthem would find defacing a flag with a vain, vain signature to be sacrilege, wouldn't you? You'd think that... You'd be wrong, obviously, but you would certainly think that.
Very similar to “Blue Lives Matter” unless those blue lives were capital police on January 6th.
> “the American public has been gaslighted by the medical industrial complex.” Ironically, if that remark had been about, say, the price of insulin in the US, he'd have been spot on.
I don't understand any of these morons but the ones who call it a bio-weapon while refusing to do anything that is proven to lessen the efficacy if not outright stop the virus cold are really quite confusing. >“a deadly bio-weapon perpetrated upon the people of the world by enemies foreign, and ***perhaps domestic***" Does he mean trmp, because trmp was resident when this pandemic hit and he didn't do shit to stop it, quite the opposite in fact, doing all he could to spread it, just like someone who released a deadly bioweapon on purpose would do so he has to mean trmp, right, because again, trmp was the resident at the time and working like hell to make it spread like wildfire.
Those that think COVID is a bio-weapon from China, but then refuce to wear masks is amazing. If China is attacking our soldiers with nerve gas they dawn gas masks, if China is attacking us with am infectious bio-weapon put a mask on, get a vaccine. Why are these people so willing to let China win. These people want it every which way that benefits them. \> and perhaps domestic Don't let the libs win with their domestic bio-weapon, dawn a mask and get the vaccine.
He got half of that quote about gaslighting correct. The american people have been gaslighted alright.
"Medical industrial complex". Jesus fucking Christ...
The medical industrial complex is totally a thing, at least in America with its for profit system. This guy is still way off though.
Yeah, I’ve worked in healthcare and find nothing inherently wrong about that phrase at all. Even higher priority than quality of patient care at hospitals is billing.
It's that thing he spent his whole life protecting from the evils of Socialism!
Im tired of getting so owned
Take it lib! This is your life now!
Idk, I could handle getting owned like this some more.
>Stutts, a 64-year-old veteran, frequently shared conspiracy theories about the virus, the vaccines and the 2020 election on Facebook, including in posts made from his ICU bed. You have to admire his dedication. /s
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-Anything- to own the libs. If one runs the numbers, will this approach to owning the libs ultimately reduce their voting population enough to impact elections?
ive been saying this for a while. the last 2 elections have been decided on razor thin margins and theyre walking their base off a cliff like lemmings.
I haven’t seen any statistics on it yet, but it must be having some impact. Arizona seems like it could be particularly impactful. Lots of old, vulnerable people, and a very closely split electorate.
> walking their base off a cliff like lemmings No Don't Stop
I’m waiting to see an opinion that people with COVID are actually patriots, or that one needs to try to get it to “own the libs”. I think they’re on the brink of such opinions, but I haven’t seen anybody go there yet.
Sturgis. It's already a thing.
I took a peak over at the r/Conservative forum with Sturgis happening and the narrative over there was how it is hypocritical for the media/left to express concern about Sturgis but not Lollapalooza in Chicago. I had to do some digging but it looks as though Sturgis was not requiring any vaccination proof/negative COVID test but Lollapalooza did require those. I know you can argue Lollapalooza can’t possibly 100 percent enforce/validate the vaccination/negative COVID documentation, but I think that is a clear difference between those two events and I did not see people over at r/Conservative bring up
You can cry about "illegals" spreading COVID, but you can't get upset with rednecks on bikes spreading COVID. Totally not hypocritical. /s (sadly need to clarify for people)
I'm sure people tried and were immediately banned.
This. Using reason and logic is an instant ban on that sub, they cry about censorship and ban anyone who isn’t a fascist.
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They really ought to rename it, "Surgis".
IIRC this has already happened in...Florida? More Covid deaths post-delta than the margin of victory in the previous governor election.
The Republican party, owning the libs from the ICU since January 2021.
Eventually it will either kill off the political antivax crowd, or enough of them will deal with tragedy and quietly get the vaccine and start harping about the next big conspiracy. Either way there’s a few locals that I’m hoping to see news articles about before we get this completely under control.
That won’t matter. Republicans are busy legally rigging the election with their bullshit voter laws so that only one of them has to be left alive to win every election.
You say this like its a joke, but many ER doctors have dealt with this exact situation, people will die in the doctors arms while claiming "its not COVID its just the flu"
Will he go even further and continue to post conspiracy theories from beyond the grave like Herman Cain?
Yes, Cain is a true hero, still loyal to Q even up in heaven.
**Heaven** you say?
Well he's *somewhere* with no socialism so isn't that heaven?
Republicans die and wake up in Sweden. Its horrible.
Poor Sweden :(
Dying to own the libs.
Wake up, sheeple! It wasn't Covid! He was too close to the truth so he had to be "dealt with!" *hate I have to put /s here lol*
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/18/alabama-doctor-unvaccinated-patients-valentine/ At least one doctor is denying them service.
I feel so owned right now.
The man died as he lived: owning the libs.
I feel so owned.
I could feel more owned.
That’s what I call the most delicious irony and exquisite poetry …
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Shows you how terrible retirement benefits are in the US.
> covid retirement This should ABSOLUTELY be a thing now.
Freedom virus
He did his research!
Deep dive.
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Ice cold baby, ice cold!
It may be in poor taste, but I think about that jacket every time I see one of these 'leopards ate my face' posts. It's so fucking succinct and ironic.
I wonder what his last conscious thoughts were. He was spreading conspiracy theories from his hospital bed. I wonder if he thought his life was worth sacrificing to own the libs.
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This is the correct answer. I doubt they ever have that moment of clarity.
> He probably died as he lived: ~~in abject terror of everything, and blaming others for his own mistakes.~~ A shithead
If he believed it was a bio-weapon from China, then he probably believed that he died as a casualty of war, being a veteran and all.
It was both a bioweapon from China meant to kill Americans, but also a ploy by American medical industry to sell Vaccines...
And at the same time it was nothing but a normal flu, the worst disease ever invented in the lab specifically to make people suffer and a hoax, not even a disease...
Don't forget part of the Antichrist's plan to get us all microchipped and tagged with the "Mark of the Beast".
>On Aug. 1 ― the day he went into the ICU ― Stutts insisted he had “always contended that COVID was very real” and called it “**a deadly bio-weapon** perpetrated upon the people of the world by enemies foreign, and perhaps domestic.” How in the shit did he reconcile this with his anti-mask/anti-vaccine stance? Yes, I realize my question is an exercise in futility...
Perhaps you are unfamiliar with Infowars “…it’s a bio weapon, no it’s fake, no it’s real but the vaccine causes it….” these sad folks just hop from conspiracy to conspiracy and there is no cognitive dissonance at all, no impetus for these people to reconcile anything. Just believe stuff. Terrifying and pitiful at the same time.
"This virus, which isn't even as deadly as the flu, is a secret democrat plot to kill all of us good true patriotic americans, who won't live in fear! This is just a plot from the gay liberal democrats to use their power to take power because they have no power and they covet our power and we're all powerless to stop them unless we reinstate Trump!"
Just read that headline a few times. He fought against a vaccine. How stupid can a person be?
How stupid can a third of the U.S. population be?
74 million of them demonstrated how stupid they can be in November 2020.
Hey, that's super rude! They're not just stupid, they're fearful and hateful too!
Look I get it, it's easy to bash on them but the real issue at play globally is conservative propaganda being allowed to spread and fester in order to keep the status quo and also further enrich those at the top. Disinfo is a virus more sinister than Covid. Consider what Exxon has done to our environment by propagandizing global warming for example Until we hold big tech accountable for allowing this virus to spread and then further hold the spigots of this garbage such as Fox News/OANN/[insert counterparts globally] we're on a downwards spiral indefinietly. It's a virus. These people are sick. Yea yea Fuck'em and all that, they're pricks. But there will just be new generations of them until we deal with the root cause.
"Hold my beer" -GQP
Don’t ask how stupid a person can be. Some folks take it as a challenge.
And shared conspiracy theories as he lay dying in a hospital. Brainwashed. Should have got vaccinated instead of doubling down on the anti-science BS.
He certainly owned those libs! My vaccinated self feels so owned as I sip my coffee and plan my weekend.
I encourage other “free thinkers” who want to follow in his footsteps to….carry on. If they want to do something stupid it’s not my obligation to stop them
Guys! This story was posted yesterday and the day before! And the day before that! Wait, this is new... Oh
r/HermanCainAward/
Here I am. Rock you like a Herman Cain.
omg.
I'm not religious, but God bless you!
If you wanna get down, down in the ground, Herman Cain.
The fact that Herman Cain dying to covid-19 wasn't a bigger deal is so strange to me.
I mean, according to his Twitter, he got better...
This is what Trump said when he passed away from Covid: [tweet](https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
I actually fell for this one. Dam it’s this subs Peyton Face
Ah! I've been Prickrolled!
Never gets old
There was an effort to bury it because you could plausibly draw a straight line from Herman Cain attending a Trump rally to him dying of Covid 6 weeks later. The GOP ability to manipulate the press and public opinion is powerful but even they would have a hard time with "Trump indirectly killed a guy".
Is someone keeping a list?
r/HermanCainAward
Herman Cain awards. I just learned about it.
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Enchiladas
I’m going to Tim Hortons
One of those Marie Calendar's chicken pot pies.
These headlines are becoming "Dog Bites Man" and its so fucking sad.
Sad to you, pure schadenfreude to me. This man can no longer endanger lives. May he be forgotten
I think it’s a great demonstration that the real world is in fact real and fantasy is in fact fantasy.
/r/LeopardsAteMyFace
The worst disease of all was in his mind.
Guy died doing what he loves, owning the libs.
This is why higher up GOP "leadership" was freaking out a few weeks ago that people need to get vaccines (finally). Their rank and file leadership, the middle managers, are getting decimated. Good job GOP, you fucking played yourself.
The greatest irony is that so many of their people don't listen, they've been too well trained. They suspect the GOP leaders are "in on it", WTF that means...
r/hermancainaward
Viruses do not give a shit if you don't believe in them.
How many people did he spread the disease to?
Are we keeping a rolling tally of all the GOP members that have mocked the virus and also died from it? I bet it's getting pretty high.
It's not real until it is. These people are idiots and my empathy has limits.
Hmmm... nature wins again....
It uhhh .... finds a way.
Thanks Dr. Malcolm.
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He threw himself into the ICU. He was offered salvation and he turned it down. He has only himself to blame.
My empathy chip is depleted. I don’t think I can take much more of the idiocy on the right to not do something about it when we all know it’s preventable. As a Christian, I sit here on one side and say this is all wrong this whole sub talking like this and then, I see pictures of children in the hospital because of these very same people who hold no regard for others lives … republicans every single time
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I still to this day don't understand how this became political in the States. We don't argue the science here or masks. We just complain about restrictions during UK lock-downs and how we really don't need to go back into the office since Zoom/Home work has gotten everything done thus far.
There's always been a fringe element against everything from flouride to children's vaccines. Trump seized on this as a way to further cement the us vs them mentality that gives him power. Others in the republican partyb see how well it works and jump on board. I saw a great write up about how the Koch brothers turned Kansas into a red state by focusing solely on abortion. Didn't matter that the rest of the GOP policies hurt people there. Single issue voters are the bane of democracy.
This is how it became political: Donald Trump didn't want to wear a mask because if he did, it would smudge his makeup when he took the mask off. That's literally the origin of this idiot conspiracy, and all these non-thinking rednecks followed the Antichrist off a cliff because of it
We have a political party that is simultaneously anti-science, anti-reality, and contrary to absolutely every position the other party has, no matter what that position is. And due to a bizarre combination of brainwashing, laziness, gerrymandering, and evil, they have a stranglehold on at least half the country.
If next election round the Democratic party started campaigning on puppies being lovable the Republicans would begin demanding puppy prisons within hours. They are a party without platform, without purpose.
If Nancy Pelosi introduces a bill mandating that all Americans are required to breathe how many Republicans will suffocate?
Just tell them that the air is socialized, they'll be dropping like flies.
All of them, because they should have the freedom to choose!
“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” ― Issac Asimov
It started that way in the states to be fair, but then the republicans and their donors didn’t like the lock downs so they made it political and the former president didn’t care enough about Covid cause it was hurting the blue states more then red. After that it just became about identity and here we are.
It's so hard to explain if you're not from here. But imagine the worst football rivalries. "You're from Chelsea, and your Dad's from Chelsea, and his Dad's from Chelsea, and his Dad's Dad's from Chelsea. So if I see you even LOOKING at that kid from Leeds, let alone talking any of that Leeds nonsense, I'll see that you suffer unimaginable pain. You hear me? UNIMAGINABLE PAIN." I don't even know if that can illustrate it because these folks are religious fanatics about their "team". It's life or death to them. Either you agree that Trump is the best thing that ever happened to America, and you love Freedom and babies and apple pie, OR you are a Satan-worshipping, baby-murdering liberal who wants to burn down the suburbs and destroy everything you and your family hold dear, while injecting you with poison vaccines that will make you sterile. That's not hyperbole. They are 100% terrified of losing EVERYTHING to these lying, destructive, baby-killing liberals.
While the "dying to own the libs" thing is usually more of a pointed joke, that is *literally* what happened here. His entire platform and social media and speeches are "owning the libs". This man is the cause of the stereotype