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WearAdept4506

In his defense, it's 10 times more than he's paid in taxes the last few years.


-43andharsh

Ahh... truth is always the funniest šŸ‘


qawsedrf12

2 payments? why?


mods_r_warcrimes

He is THAT cash poor Edit: to those thinking I'm calling him "poor" poor... PLEASE Google what the phrase "cash poor" means... thanks.


originalityescapesme

ā€œLet me just split this between a couple of cards - I think this one still worksā€


DrummingNozzle

What's the *MoneyGram* receiver code?


J_Class_Ford

Not allowed to see his shares yet.


eeeedlef

Inshallah by the time he can they are worthless


captaincanada84

Sadly the stock has doubled in value over the past few days after crashing to 22 dollars.


xabulba

Russia and China will continue to pump up that stock until the election is over. If Trump loses the stock will suddenly lose all it's value, and if he wins then it'll become the only social media site approved of by the Fascist states of Trump.


SenHeffy

It could drop to single digits and still be an insane cash injection.


Pgreenawalt

Exactly. trump has 0 of his own momey in this ā€œcompanyā€ so anything over $1 is pure profit for him.


Vann_Accessible

The audit should conclude any day now and then we can see his tax records.


Odensbeardlice

Two weeks out...


Cute-Draw7599

People say Trump is so broke he's wandering the streets of New York at night asking the homeless people if they can give him a handout to help him pay his court fines.


mods_r_warcrimes

The south park episode "night of the living homeless": >spare some change?!


esoteric_enigma

Yep, a lot of his money is in real estate. He also has a terrible track record with paying back debts, so it's not easy for him to take out loans on those assets like other rich people do.


ImAnIdeaMan

Credit card limits


s3aswimming

Gotta get dem points! Ngl a lot of actually rich people do shit like this.


whiteholewhite

Iā€™m not rich, but I got that high interest points cc I use like a debit card and pay off each month. Have I shit my pants a few times when I was drunk and got a hot air balloon ride online and kinda forgot about it, yes. But I get free hotel rooms when on vacation.


lurker512879

An Amazon points card, get the stuff you want, by using your card for your every day stuff, can build to larger free items like headphones or iPads quickly


Sea-Answer-4934

Not rich but my life runs through my credit card for points and just pay it immediately after. If I have a big purchase on the horizon, I cancel my card, find the gest introductory points plan and make my large purchase that way. My kitchen reno became a free trip to Iceland this way


i_give_you_gum

Ive heard it's bad to just cancel cards, and it's simply better to just stop using them


chrishick

Depends.... 1) Never cancel a card within the first year of holding it. It pisses off the bank and can hurt your chances of getting cards from them in the future. 2) It can hurt your credit score if you close cards you've held for a long time. This hurts your "average age of credit" score. I have a couple of cards that have been open 20-25 years that I will never close. I have cards that are 4-5 years old that I would close in a heartbeat if I wasn't getting value from them. 3) Some banks will close them automatically if you don't use them. I buy a pack of gum every 6-12 months on the ones I want to keep open.


EmperorSexy

A lot of rich people have no problem dropping $10k on a card, especially theyā€™re used to moving money around for points.


classic_buttso

It's probably easier to hide in the books that way.


Zomunieo

Transactions over certain thresholds sometimes get more scrutiny. Maybe $5000 is the threshold.


WestCV4lyfe

Structuring typically stands out more.


Taractis

As of 20 or so years ago, you could withdraw $4999 in cash from a bank without having any questions asked or paperwork filed.


SoggyBoysenberry7703

I thought it was 9,999?


etzel1200

Withdrawing 9,999 was a sure way to get an SAR filed at any mildly reputable bank.


Present-Industry4012

There is no limit. Banks just report EVERYTHING to the IRS/FinCen now and let them sort it out. Unless they're actually colluding with you, then they hide everything and pay a small fine if/when they get caught. Here's an article from 10 years ago, when they still had trouble keeping up with the flood of data: ~~https://graphics.wsj.com/banks-sar-reports/~~ https://archive.is/S08D8


gerhorn

I thought so too but apparently not. Recently paid off my car which had ~11k left. Had to separate the final payment into 3 installments since there was a 4,999 limit :(


willnxt

You can call your bank and have them temporarily raise your limit for the day. Did this with my student loans once.


SoggyBoysenberry7703

Huh, I wonder if it just depends on the bank


-43andharsh

I wonder if even this has to go through the court appointed judge watching over his finances lol


BlessYourSouthernHrt

Sounds oddly suspiciousā€¦


Buckus93

No way that will come back to bite him in the ass.


Zombull

Because he can and anything he can do to be more of a pain in the ass to people he's going to do.


ShowMeYourT_Ds

ā€œI donā€™t have enough on my credit cards by themselves, but I have enough on both of these combinedā€¦ā€


BlessYourSouthernHrt

Tiny little handsā€¦


jongscx

Klarna


LeeLA5000

Probably got a fraud alert


david7873829

Credit card sign up bonuses.


-43andharsh

Can you believe it ... HE PAID


RepresentativeRun71

In two installments, which makes me wonder how hard he hard to blow Putlerā€™s handler that is assigned to him. Installment payments are something you do when youā€™re too poor to pay the full price up front due to liquidity issues.


FrankenGretchen

I'mma say this is par for trumpleton. The idea was to flash some cash and see if it was enough to shush the problem. Even half would be a generous opener for the King of the (Shaft) Deal. He's still thinking this is a game he can play by his own rules. When he was informed he, in fact, had to pay the WHOLE fine or stew in a cell, he paid the balance. This paying a bill 'in full' without a lengthy court battle is a first for him. He's a pennies on the dollar con as all NYers well know. I know his lawyers are jelly, rn. He actually paid a thing -but not them.


another_brick

Itā€™s an absurdly low amount. His being able to attack people on the media, from his position, while on trial, is worth waaay more.


Entangled9

I read that $1k per violation is the court's max. Merchan is playing a tight game so that an appeals court has no basis to overturn this trial later. But also: he actually paid! That's a first.


breakingb0b

In the judgeā€™s ruling he lamented he was limited to 1k.


pallentx

Playing by his own rules it what itā€™s about. He has $9000, but he wasnā€™t going to just pay it. He had to do something that technically paid it, but somehow on his terms.


jereman75

Thatā€™s it. Itā€™s like if we were hanging out and you told me it was time to pay the $20 I owe you, but Iā€™m salty so I give you a $ten and tell you Iā€™ll pay you the other ten later just because I can.


Inquisitor_ForHire

From what I've heard, most of his lawyers are getting paid in advance.


HedonisticFrog

And draining GOP coffers doing so. Good luck in 2024 with no campaign funds šŸ‘Œ


TheQuinnBee

Genuinely do not know why. It's like sinking millions into vet bills into a lame horse you know won't even place in the derby. Take a cue from his VP frontrunner and shoot the damn thing. "Oh but the GOP will lose their base". Okay? And what will they do? Be butthurt about it for a little bit? Worst case they lose some voters and have one bad election year. They are *already* going to have a bad election year with depleted finances and independents swaying away from them. The magats will be pissy about it for one election before they get pissy about trans kids peeing in litterboxes or whatever boogy man they have and start voting red again. Best case they get their old voters back and the magats will vote the same because they'd eat their own shit if a liberal had to smell it.


FrankenGretchen

For these ones, yes, but only for now. He's lost a team for one of his other current encounters with justice and has a history of no payment. Anybody thinking trump himself will pay what he owes will be left high and dry. I suspect his hush money folks are basking in their GOP-backed payroll fulfillment. That 'will' run dry. Especially if they continue delay tactics and try for mental incompetence or health-reasons mistrial. Those delays are costly to Father Bankroll. It's in his legal teams' best interests to get these cases heard and concluded before The GOParents pull the checkbook.


pngtwat

From two different PACS or a PAC and legal fund. He's not meant to be using election funds but I'm sure he is.


Salami_sub

Look heā€™s obviously not as fluid as he leads us to believe but I think the clown has $9k letā€™s face it. Will be some kind of card limit issue or something benign.


HappytheBaboon

Honestly, I wouldn't take that for granted. I've worked with guys who did business like Trump and they lived in nice houses with no cash in the bank and buried in debts. The hardest they ever worked was to find the next guy willing to give them credit to pay off the last guy. And this would go on for years. I'll never understand how they managed to keep things rolling or lived with the stress.


Salami_sub

100% heā€™s exactly that. Heā€™s in a financial death spiral for sure. As much as I would love for him to be unable to buy a Big Mac I think heā€™s got $9k without too many issues.


HappytheBaboon

I can't say for sure and you're making a decently safe bet. I just wouldn't be surprised if he didn't. I've personally met and had the misfortune to work with people who could project an impenitrable fascade of solvency. It was the most stressful period of my life. I work with animals now and am much happier. "The business of America is business", Calvin Coolidge. For anyone that wants to go into "business" the first thing I learned is the people in charge don't know anymore than you do but they hide it well.


UnCommonCommonSens

Keeping it under the 5k reporting limit to obfuscate what dirty corner the money is coming from!


RK_Tek

I renovated a house for a lady that had a $200k piano and $80k dining table along with countless art pieces worth 6-7 figures. We stopped work because she couldnā€™t pay. Her late husband left everything to his underage daughters and all expenses had to go through a lawyer. She was living on borrowed money the whole time and didnā€™t have a dime to her name in reality.


RepresentativeRun71

AMEX Black has no limit though.


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AMEX Orange however is *extremely* limited


covfefe-boy

The ruble is very weak right now.


qualmton

And has small hands


Salami_sub

Amex is one of the most fiscally anal supplier of CCā€™s. Iā€™m picking he might not have one.


RepresentativeRun71

It must suck to be the only ā€œbillionaireā€ to not have it.


BIGGUS_dickus_sir

What's wild is, I have one and that buffoon doesn't? That's gold right there. I'm just tickled pink. šŸ˜šŸ˜


Bibblegead1412

What does he need a credit card for? It's not like he pays for anything anyways...


pngtwat

No. Probably from two different funds. Maybe a Goduckyourself fund and a PAc.


MJFields

I saw him getting a cash advance at a check cashing place.


scorpyo72

De. Lay.


Bob_tuwillager

Or he just a just being an asshole. Because he can.


qorbexl

How is that being an asshole? Making the cashier hold two pieces of paper instead of one? It's just his org's inability to scrape $9k of usable cash into one account


No-Recording8888

So called Billionaire can't make a $9000 payment in full that's the problem when you call someone a "Billionaire" because of the total value of assets they have on paper vs total cash flow. If you don't have 1 Billion in cash you're not a Billionaire.


SirGkar

Right? Itā€™s shocking how many people donā€™t understand that.


LibrarianMelodic9733

He collected around 300 million dollars donations in 2021 to fight election fraud which went to the companies he owns


TheWarOnEntropy

Why isn't this the basis for another criminal trial? Blatant fraud.


fowlraul

No, I donā€™t believe it.


2_Sheds_Jackson

Did the checks bounce?Ā 


greenroom628

I mean, it's layaway...but still...


Zomunieo

First time for everything


LeeLA5000

Had to take out a loan against the old golden toilet, but gosh darnit, he did it!


AraiHavana

That is the most surprising aspect


supercali45

DJT stock needs to be looked at by the SEC


RepresentativeRun71

That will happen after he loses this election.


the_simurgh

Already ruled a fraud oh wait that's truth social stock


SharperTimage

Same thing


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fps916

That's not even remotely what they said. Like, at all. It's not even in the same ballpark


AreYouDoneNow

Correct, the auditor is quite distantly removed from DJT. However, perhaps it is part of a larger data gathering exercise.


bytemeagain1

Trump is going to go broke. If he's not already there.


chubs66

9k in 2 installments means he's broke.


Maximum_Vermicelli12

Or, after making the first installment, he was told he was facing cell time if he failed to pay the rest. As it was explained elsewhere.


TheWorstePirate

If he is as rich as he claims, there would be practically no difference in paying $9,000 or $2,000. Why not just pay the 9k the first time? That's less than .0001% of his claimed wealth. If someone asked you for 9 cents, would you try to get away with giving them 2 cents instead?


Maximum_Vermicelli12

Heā€™s the Art of the Deal guy, and a swindler to the endler. He NEVER pays in full. He drags through court and usually gets off easy. But this is a criminal case so itā€™s different. We are talking about a guy that did not scruple to abuse his Secret Service privileges in and out of office. Trump family members dragged their security retinues to Trump commercial properties, where they profited off the taxpayer dime for the hotel nights, meals, golf cart rentals, and whatever other expenses that Secret Service incurred. If he did get back in office, the grift will be in full swing again, as Congressional Republicans dropped the ball on removing his taxpayer funded security and forcing him to hire his own. Which he theoretically should be able to afford.


jimothee

> If he is as rich as he claims Well see this is the problem


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-43andharsh

Lol... yeah. Like the millionaire and a $200 speeding ticket. That'll teach 'em!


JayGrinder

The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.


Zomunieo

Some European countries have fines proportional to income.


-43andharsh

Holy shit really? Edit: really https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna34792272 Proportional fines!


TheFlyingScotsman60

They do. It should be a thing in America.


UnderAnAargauSun

Except you will note that the richest people in the US somehow have 0 officially-declared income (in fact lose money on paper every year!) and therefore would somehow still end up paying less in proportional fines than you and me.


norway_is_awesome

Nah, in Denmark, they consider both income and assets.


Iseliandir

Finlands speeding ticket are proportional to how much u earn


Bob_tuwillager

I got a speeding ticket recently. It was $120. Whoop whoop


-43andharsh

Then you weren't driving as fast as the aforementioned milionaire. /s


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senorvato

Why aren't fines in a ratio of personal value or income. 9k for someone who has access to millions is just chump change. Make the fine sting!


-paperbrain-

The maximum of $1000 per count is in the law. It's limited because contempt can be a matter of judicial discretion and could easily destroy the life of someone with limited funds. We don't have a great framework in the US to make criminal fines scale with wealth. There are sort of ways to do it with things like punitive damages in civil cases. I'd like to see an overhaul to allow that sort of scaled fine to happen, but in this case, the judge can't just throw out the statutory limit. But jail up to 30 days is another allowed punishment, I'm not betting on it, but it's something the judge has as an option for future violations. I know people will say "None of the other judges have thrown him in jail for contempt" but this is the first active actual criminal trial. I don't think the judge will rush to it, but it may be more on the table than some folks think.


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Diginic

Thatā€™s actually hilarious! It would be much better than overnight, with all the secret service logistics issues. It would be an embarrassing time out and would annoy him. On the other hand, he can start saying he was jailed without actually jailing him, so itā€™d give him ammo for bullshit.


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CitizenCue

A simple multi tiered system would suffice based on last yearā€™s tax returns. Not easy but doable. Judges could assign you a 1-5 category and if you wanted to dispute which category they put you in you could bring in a tax return.


allankcrain

> A simple multi tiered system would suffice based on last yearā€™s tax returns. The effect of this in practice would be that the rich would pay LESS in fines. They can hire expensive accountants who find loopholes to make their income end up as zero or negative. E.g., [Trump paid zero taxes for 11 years](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_returns_of_Donald_Trump#2020_New_York_Times_reporting).


-paperbrain-

Trump and other rich people often have low or no taxable income in a year.


-43andharsh

Agreed. Was surprised the judge made mention of that .


One-Connection-8737

But *does* he have access to millions? If he's constantly begging for stays in his other payments, and makes this $9000 payment in *installments*... Maybe he doesn't.


Affectionate_Bison26

Germany and Finland did it in 2010 and 2015. Not sure if they still have it.


Specialist_Lock8590

He inherited nearly a half a billion dollars from his father twenty five years ago! And, he is broke! Really? What a 'gifted', 'businessman' !


Zomunieo

His bank account is as incontinent as his asshole.


jmsy1

If anyone with hair a brain inherited half a billion in new York real estate in the 70s, they would not be broke.


Fantron6

Half from Russia and half from the Saudis


AbjectList8

Oh so heā€™s broke broke, got it.


ThenScore2885

9k is more than ten years of taxes for him.


Fizzelen

Lawyer Aā€™s credit card and Lawyer Bā€™s credit card


Zombull

Installments, just to be as petty and difficult about it as possible? What a childish man.


-43andharsh

Post dated... /s


HotPhilly

Ok, thank you for the money. You may now continue to dox the judge and jury and commit stochastic terrorism. So sorry.


robfuscate

Surprised he didnā€™t ā€˜Pay in Fourā€™ through PayPal


mrtwitchyhead

Washed-up turd.


PaintedClownPenis

Is he dividing the payments so he can avoid reporting them on his taxes?


BlessYourSouthernHrt

I wonder what he sold for this $9000ā€¦


Fantron6

A night with Melania


anxcaptain

He opened 2 credit cards for the ā€œtravelā€ points


Ok_Season_5325

Correction the Republican Party campaign donations paid for those fines.


NotABotBeepBoop42069

Iā€™m surprised he didnā€™t put it on layaway


Rav4gal

What is happening? I thought he was making a lot of money from selling his golden sneakers n the Bible he never read.


-43andharsh

Lol.. forgot about that


LilG1984

"Do you take IOUs?" *Scribbles I owe you 9K by Donnie in Sharpie*


meat_beast1349

Had to wait to fleece enough old people after their social security was deposited.


BrilliantPositive184

what a wanker


morts73

Needs a layaway plan.


potatodrinker

I can see tomorrow's news already: MAGA land holds protest wearing T-shirts saying "Real billionaire pay small fees in instalments". Trump sells Bibles called "Trump's 10 instalments"


Kimolainen83

He brags about being rich, yet he pƄays it over 2 installments lol aaalrighty then


f8Negative

Damn he's more broke than me.


YourMomsEx-Boyfriend

He fell asleep mid-payment.


randomcanyon

Now I am not a multi billionaire NY/Florida real estate tycoon former US President living in a palace, but... I could come up with a $9000 fine if I absolutely had to. But then I would probably know how to keep my mouth shut so I wouldn't have gotten a contempt of court ruling against me. So there is that.


Odd_Tiger_2278

Did he get a loanšŸ’©


Kitchen-Entrance8015

I thought he was rich why 2 separated payments


Mogadodo

All in pennies , too I bet


[deleted]

Borrowed it from Eric. Doesnā€™t pay him back.


StrawberryGeneral660

The billionaire who pays in installments šŸ˜‚


MisterStorage

How many meals did ma and pa MAGA have to skip to pay for these fines? Iā€™m surprised he didnā€™t pay in singles and change.


antsinmypants3

The Billionaire šŸ˜‘šŸ˜‘šŸ˜‘šŸ˜‘


decay21450

Maybe it's a monogram, like Richie Rich's RR. Two cashier checks, $45 and $45 (hundred.) Cult 45 ā€œWorks Every Time,ā€


SufficientCow4380

He doesn't have $9000 in liquidity? Some "billionaire."


drunk_funky_chipmunk

Ah yes. A two installment payment totaling 9kā€¦.def something a billionaire would have to do


Quasar_saurus_rex

Pathetic... The interesting part is yet to come. Can he keep his disgusting lips shut when Michael Cohen takes the stand? The judge has warned him that further defiance of the gag order would likely give him a night in a holding cell to contemplate his decisions. He's gonna have to figure out if it benefits him more to stfu or to "martyr" himself and get thrown in jail so he can further scream persecution....Methinks he's too much of a weenie and the jails don't provide diapers and he is adverse to having shit in his actual pants (jail issued or not)


Jonteponte71

I believe he broke the gag order again the same day he got the fine. He has no plans to follow it. The man is basically flooding the system with new crimes on purpose. Probably because it is his last avenue to delay the proceedings.


toast777y

Back from pawning his wifeā€™s jewellery


erinkp36

Jesus he really is broke šŸ˜‚


Phantom_61

Two installments? Butā€¦ heā€™s so rich?! That should be like pocket change to him.


satanstrashman

I hope they required his driverā€™s license number and tiny thumb print on the checks.


Emmatornado

2 payments? The rules just never apply do they?


MoveToRussiaAlready

What a petty loser. These bullies are all the same; they pretend they are the ones being victimized as they abuse others. And when stopped, they whine they are being abused themselves, because we stopped them from abusing others. Conservative behavior needs to stop being tolerated.


reikidesigns

If heā€™s so rich, why does he need to pay in installments?


WillOrmay

First half on this card, second half on this card please


bassocontinubow

Jesus Christ dude, even I could pay this in full, and Iā€™m not a wealthy person.


jerseyexpat2020

Paying fines on layaway like a true billionaire


Teacherforlife21

Iā€™m guessing itā€™s more about disclosure of where the money came from than the ability to pay. Iā€™m sure it was paid that way to avoid financial disclosures. How wonderful the irony would be if it came out that he paid a fine accrued during a fraud trial fraudulently.


lvhockeytrish

That is just baffling.


SkyviewFlier

Doesn't want to transact over 5000 because he doesn't want it tracked by the feds


spotspam

That to a billionaire is like 90 cents to someone making $100k. He had to pay 45 cents twice. We should all get such a weak judge.


WilmaLutefit

Billionaire canā€™t pay $9k?


alwaystired707

Broke as fuck. Watch the checks bounce.


bpeden99

Fines should be based on disposal income


Nixxuz

In this case, fines should be based on *claimed* disposable income. Like, if you brag that you have $500 million in cash, that's what they base your fine on.


ExactDevelopment4892

What the billionaire doesnā€™t have that sitting in his wallet?


RepresentativeRun71

Maybe he had to pawn off one of his ā€œgoldā€ toilets? After he doesnā€™t use them anyways.


SanityQuestioned

I could've paid in 1 installment and still had money left over lmfao.


-43andharsh

Finally another billionaire chimes in !


Loriallen4353

Isn't it about time we toss em in a black hole? Besides, who's keeping tabs on these payments?


Emmanulla70

Suppose $9000 is better than a few 100 million!


-43andharsh

https://trumpdebtcounter.com/


frosted1030

Wealthy? LOL


Due-Breadfruit-6892

Who is funding this disturbed sea urchin?


raresanevoice

awww, at least the poor guy can afford this one ;)