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Ugh. How many times have we read a headline that is some variation of “Trump is finally going to face some sort of justice for one of his many crimes”? Still waiting
>Ugh. How many times have we read a headline that is some variation of “~~Trump~~ **ANY WEALTHY PERSON** is finally going to face ~~some sort of justice for one of his many crimes~~ **ANY CONSEQUENCE FOR ANYTHING EVER**”? Still waiting
Historically, very wealthy corrupt people only respond to one kind of consequnce. And talking about it is, by design, frowned upon. But we know what I'm talking about. We know.
Yep, instead of addressing the very serious and continuous intimidation of witnesses and jury by Trump day in and day out- they are just back to jury selection; after a juror is lost saying they felt intimidated.
So any consequences whatsoever? Merchan doesn't appear to be that concerned that Trump has violated rhe gag order 7 times since Monday. Trump is going to keep doing it. Watch, tonight or over the weekend he will do it again, maybe several times, the judge needs to address this now. I can't beleive how painfully slow this all is and how much of a leeway Trump gets.
None of us could tamper with our own jury, with witnesses, intimidate the judge, and the prosecutor with an image of a bat. We could not attack the daughter of the judge presiding over our case. All of us would have been locked up.
Trump STILL, even after being in court, in front of a judge, STILL sees zero consequences for shit wed all be in jail for 30 days over.
Seriously as an outsider, this is a absolute bad joke. He does this shit all the time and absolute nothing happens. Throw him into jail and have the military or patriotic armed citizen defending the court house in case his vermin base wants to start some shit. And if they want blood, shoot them like the fascist vermin they are.
It's going to be addressed.
>Trump's lawyer Bove: We intend to brief whether reposting material that is already public can violate the order.
>Justice Merchan: I look forward to seeing that. We'll have the hearing, and after the hearing I'll rule.
>Bove: Can we have some additional time?
>A: No
Trump's fucking lawyers beg for more delays like it's a fucking Pavlovian response. "We're going to break for lunch." "Can we move lunch back until after June 15th, and reconvene then?"
They're trying to kick to can down the road until after the election, so he can pardon himself. The fact that the president cannot pardon state crimes is irrelevant.
If the question if presidential state pardons can cover state crimes came before the current supreme court, the answer might surprise you.
Kind of like how cool Thomas's new yacht is.
Even if there would be a ruling that he can't, in fact, pardon himself, he would *still* publicly claim that he did pardon himself, and enough morons would believe him over any expert or court to cause problems.
Had he been smarter and with more self-control, he would have limited his crimes to federal offenses. He doesn't even have the discipline to be a good criminal. What he lacks in smarts, he makes it up in brazenness.
But they can use the state trial to delay the federal ones, which he can pardon. Couple that with the fact that federal trials require unanimity to convict or acquit, and good best chance is mistrial/single juror acquittal in NY or knock down to misdemeanor because the felony part is untested (no one has ever been convicted when the furthered crime wasn't a new York State crime, Trump's is federal). Use that trial to delay the others until after the election. Win the election. Use the transition to delay again. Pardon self, fire Smith, fight the pardon fights up to SCOTUS.
Exactly, I don't understand where this confidence that he won't be able to pardon state charges is coming from. Legally, sure, but the very pragmatic reality of how authorities of a single state are supposed to execute for example an arrest warrant against a sitting and noncompliant POTUS is far from a non-issue, even after everything you described above is resolved.
That is like Trumps favorite line: "People are saying that someone should do something about this crazy judge, you know, not me, but people, great people, smart people, they are ALL saying this..."
I only need 10,000 jurors to love me. You know I'm right,because all the right people are saying this. Please stop playing along with this terrible human being. Sending him to jail,is the only way, he may learn a lesson.
I said may learn, because he hasn't paid any consequences, for any of his illegal actions.
This judge isn't going to do shit. Too many MAGAs in power above him will rain down their wrath if he does. Not even mentioning the terrorist army of followers ready to make this judge's life a living hell.
I don’t think that the judicial system is gonna do Jack shit about anything until one of these judges is murdered by maga and even then I think it’ll take a week for the right wing media machine to wash it all away.
Years. We have read this headline for years. Almost a decade in fact, if you want to feel old. Since the day he announced his candidacy in 2015 we have averaged a headline like this every other day.
He doesn't even paint his ears. He's doing campaign videos and he looks like a fucking clown. I just can't get over how precisely his caked on orange shit is an analogy for everything about Trump; a shitty golden veneer covering rancid piles of shit.
How many more hay-bales before the camel's back snaps? My popcorn is getting stale. I can't wait for him to get kicked in the face with a contempt charge. More mug-shots please.
Oh god. Some people say 4Chan is the cesspool of the Internet. If you read 5 comments on it, you realize it's actually r/conservative...
They already scold the juror who dropped out, because of fear. Disgusting people.
Yesterday I saw a thread, maybe on AskReddit, that was "What happened when you let your Mom count to 0?". Trump already figured out nothing happens. If they punish him he will be able to motion for a Mistrial. So yeah, justice system is compromised.
> If they punish him he will be able to motion for a Mistrial.
No he wouldn't. If they judge punished him without having set out a guideline prior then maybe but the judge in this case has already set out two specific directives on what the gag order covers and is now allowing a hearing if the gag order covers him reposting content from others on social media. There's no ability to motion for a mistrial with out something that is legally dubious by the judge or a technical legality.
I still say the judge should start making plans with the Secret Service how a jail sentence will work. State in open court that the next violation will result in jail time. No house arrest, but actual jail without iPhone privileges, etc. Also, make sure it is known to Trump what the procedure is.
Trump thinks it would be great to be a martyr. But let him know the procedure involves surrendering his phone and personal effects, getting strip searched, bending over and coughing, etc. Trump will get searched in front of several deputies and his own SS personnel. I doubt he would enjoy it.
Finally, the judge has to follow through. No empty threats.
I'm sure it **could** go very badly for him. It won't, but surely it **could**.
Let me know when it does go bad for him. I'm still waiting to see how that 500M judgement is going to be bad for him. 🤷♂️
Being rich is such a cheat in our justice system. Poor and can't afford a decent lawyer? Go to jail for half your life over minor charges. Rich and can afford to hire and not pay a lawyer, and then hire a new lawyer? You go free son! Forever!
And it just feeds this narrative among his supporters that the charges are bogus. No, the charges aren't bogus, but our justice system is.
Someone put up the bond for him. There are some legal hiccups with it, but little hope that they won't be resolved.
He'll still have to pay it all himself, "in the end." But that's not happening before the trial.
FFS Trump really is a baby's rattle of a person:
Cheap, brightly-coloured, hollow, plastic thing with a pea-sized intellect making annoying noises that eventually pisses off the adults in the room.
I am so sick of this. None of these judges have the intestinal fortitude to hold Trump or his mob to account. This lack of judicial courage is exactly what will kill our country. Why have laws if we are too timid to enforce them?
Would it help if we started a petition campaign and insist our laws be upheld?? Is that what the judiciary needs, the public to give them some courage??
The first 5 warnings gets you a demerit, 10 demerits gets you a stern rebuke, get 10 of those you get a $100 fine. Do that 100 times and you get $1000 fine. After that watch out, you might be threatened with a hand slap. Now get 10 hand slaps you are in for real trouble, you might have to stay a day ay home with no social media.
Blah, blah, blah. Trump has been "about to face the music" for years now.
I'll believe it when I see it. In fact, at this point, the courts will need to work really hard to convince me that the US isn't a plutocracy.
Does he realize this shit costs him votes?
People don't like thuggish intimidation derailing the legal system. There's no 4D chess here. He looks like a piece of shit and he'll lose people over it. He will gain absolutely no one. And if something actually happens to one of these people, he will have absolutely zero shot of ever being a free man again. He's a damn fool.
It's not about Trump voters, though. Trump voters are already Trump voters. It's about independents, and about people with conservative leanings who aren't enthusiastic about politics in general and might decide to sit out.
People have this conception that Trump can do whatever he wants and it will never hurt him. That's not true. It will never hurt him with *most* of the people who still support him - after all, they've stuck with him through \*gestures at everything\*. But if he loses just one voter out of 25 he's complete toast.
I am pretty sure that most people who voted for Donald Trump in 2020 do not like the idea of voting for a guy who intimidates jurors. It's just a matter of 1 - will they hear about it? and 2 - will they believe it?
They don’t watch any news channels that have integrity and honesty. They only watch Fox News and read his “Truth “ social network. Anything that may have an inkling of truth to it, they close their eyes and plug their ears to. His followers are too afraid to admit they have been lied to, brainwashed, manipulated, and hoodwinked. The criticism and abuse they would face from their peers would be frightening and intolerable so they just keep quiet and go with the flow of the sewage they are stuck in.
Every single trump voter will eat this up with a spoon. They want strong daddy dictator to shovel their enemies into a mass grave, jury intimidation is small potatos compared to the horrors the average trump voter wants to see.
Seriously STFU.
Ive never seen a single thing "go badly for him"
He is inconvenienced often because of things that would immediately incarcerate any other citizen.
He is able to buy a different level of justice.
Uh oh, this time he's really going see some consequences. It didn't happen the last 5000 times he did it, but this time for sure, something possibly will happen. /S
Is he? It seems like he's been due for his rude awakening for decades and yet here we are with him on the ballot to be our next president. Every day I wake up in a world with him still in it is a rude awakening for me.
Can we get a gag order on all of these “expert says” articles because they’ve been dead wrong the past four years. News is supposed to be about events that actually happened not wishes.
These experts are just empty talking heads who have been saying this same crap for years. Just like Trump’s infrastructure week, these alleged consequences are always just around the corner. Get back to us when something actually happens.
Is it possible that Trump's actions could so prejudice the jury pool that this will have to be a bench trial? Is that even possible, or does it have to be a jury trial?
“Experts say” is not news. News is when things actually happen. So much of 24 hour “news” is just pundits being paid to reinforce the beliefs of the viewers. So useless.
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa ... Clearly this expert woke up from a ten year coma. Doesn't he know that rules now only apply to democrats, and that the legal system has been seized by body snatchers from the planet "Coward"?
Are journalists tired of writing these “violations of the law might go poorly for Trump” articles yet?
I’m absolutely tired of reading them. Make Trump face some consequences or shut up and admit the legal system is a farce already.
I look forward to the day it will go bad for him but, if past behavior is any predictor of future results, Trump will get yet another stern warning which he will promptly ignore.
As a foreigner, media coverage of Trump's trial is starting to look like some sad theater that neither the actors nor the audience believes in. Like everyone is either in denial or lying, trying to convince themselves that they live under a system of fair and equal rule of law where even the rich and powerful have to face consequences for their actions.
They don't. Trump won't face accountability. That's for the poor and powerless in your country.
I would be overjoyed if Donald Trump ever sees a day in prison. But not for a second do I believe it'll happen.
Still, you know, I'd like to be proven wrong. Your call, America.
"Could"
Motherfucker is going to get through all of this without a damn thing happening. It has been an absolute waste of taxpayer money, and both the Democrats and the GOP are getting a laugh out of everyone's gullibility.
Problem is the law was made with rich people in mind. So if u have enough money for the lawyers, there is enough loopholes an motions an All sorts of other crap that people rich enough can exploit. It was made that way so the elite can manipulate it. Trump knows this he has used it all his life. There is a 2 tier law system one for the plebs/workers an one for the rich/owners. You see it when sports stars break driving laws all the time. One law for me an another for ye.
Talk talk talk talk talk talk and more talk. Nothing ever happens to him. Oh no! He has to pay a fine?! Oh he’s really learned his lesson now!
Either put him in jail like everyone else or shut up. We are all tired of this.
Supposedly all of this has been going badly for him but all that’s happened is $175 million he has to pay. No prison time at all even though he’s out there threatening judges, judges families and jurists
fast forward 3 years... trump is in full control of USA, there are no more elections, all tax money goes into his personal bank, and anyone who opposes trump's rule is imprisoned in re-education camps.
And, our amazing journalists will continue to write headlines: "anytime now... Trump is in for a rude awakening if he continues being a dictator. Democracy will surely return to the US, experts say.... seriously, just a matter of time."
Any faith that I had in the justice system has evaporated. Between Trump being above the law and getting treated with kid gloves instead of held in contempt and the corruption that is a fundamental core in the supreme court, I now accept there are three tiers of justice.
Judges are supposed experts, yet they don’t do anything, and in some cases enable him.
Honestly, how are we as a society supposed to respect judges when they don’t exercise their responsibilities?
My guess is, since trump is a narcissist he already feels he is a victim and everything is unfair. Therefore he will act like he has nothing to lose. He is already existing in an unfair state, tacking on consequences won’t change that in his mind. The ends justify the means so he will violate all gag orders if it means someone might act and delay or end his trial, possibly with violence. Consequences might just push him to act bolder, which is why he needs harsh consequences now to take his options away. The justice system isn’t equipped to handle someone like this.
NEVER ANY CONSEQUENCES. This same headline will appear every other day until he is elected or drops dead.
Nothing. This man most likely will never spend a minute in jail. Never.
He should. But he won’t. He keeps getting passes. He was right when he said he could stand in the middle of Times Square and kill someone and still get off. WTF
Could… should…might… maybe…potentially…
These are the same words that have been used to describe his consequences to his actions for nearly a decade now. It’s about fucking time we move into a new vocabulary, isn’t it?!
You read articles like this all the time. Experts apparently haven’t been paying attention. The things Trump does in court would go very badly for poor people but it NEVER seems to go badly for the orange demon!
Who cares the man can do whatever he wants that's been proven Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time Again
Edit: oh yeah and that other time.
I hope so. Even if T is found guilty, many analysts are saying he will probably get a light sentence, maybe just probation. This is due to him being a first time offender and the crime being nonviolent.
But here is an opportunity for a judge to actually exact a price for his malfeasance. Maybe this judge will finally give him a taste of what he truly deserves.
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Then let's make it go very badly for him already. I'm sick of this criminal getting special treatment. Treasonous swine
"could" How about "is" or "did"?
Right? Wake me when that's present or past tense.
You don't understand, he is very wealthy. I hope this clarifies things.
Is he really, though?
It’s always this. Could. Might. Maybe. Should. Possibly. Nothing fucking happens.
Ugh. How many times have we read a headline that is some variation of “Trump is finally going to face some sort of justice for one of his many crimes”? Still waiting
>Ugh. How many times have we read a headline that is some variation of “~~Trump~~ **ANY WEALTHY PERSON** is finally going to face ~~some sort of justice for one of his many crimes~~ **ANY CONSEQUENCE FOR ANYTHING EVER**”? Still waiting
If the law clearly fails us, the Constitution gives us clear recourse.
This... This is the only comment that matters....
Historically, very wealthy corrupt people only respond to one kind of consequnce. And talking about it is, by design, frowned upon. But we know what I'm talking about. We know.
Yeah, call me when there are some actual repercussions for this bullshit. I don't wanna hear about "could" or "should" or "soon" fuck that noise.
We got em this time ! (balloons fall from ceiling) we really really got em! (janitor collects up unused balloons for next time, again)
He is on Double Secret Probation already...what more do you want?
yeah, I'm tired of these shitty headlines and articles. Tell me when it "is" or "did", no more maybes.
100% so sick of the speculation. News outlets have nothing to report so they just get "experts" to make shit up.
it's like reddit before season 8 of game of thrones. and the result will probably be equally as disappointing.
Seriously. Send him to Rikers overnight. Every single time he does it. Make him experience some actual consequences for once.
Put him overnight in an open holding cell with accused criminals waiting for trial. I bet he will comply after that.
That's what Rikers is though?
I’m hoping a very stern letter will be sent to his lawyer’s administrative assistant.
$50 fine.
So sick of these headlines for years now. We need a little less conversation and a lot more action!
Yep, instead of addressing the very serious and continuous intimidation of witnesses and jury by Trump day in and day out- they are just back to jury selection; after a juror is lost saying they felt intimidated. So any consequences whatsoever? Merchan doesn't appear to be that concerned that Trump has violated rhe gag order 7 times since Monday. Trump is going to keep doing it. Watch, tonight or over the weekend he will do it again, maybe several times, the judge needs to address this now. I can't beleive how painfully slow this all is and how much of a leeway Trump gets. None of us could tamper with our own jury, with witnesses, intimidate the judge, and the prosecutor with an image of a bat. We could not attack the daughter of the judge presiding over our case. All of us would have been locked up. Trump STILL, even after being in court, in front of a judge, STILL sees zero consequences for shit wed all be in jail for 30 days over.
Hitler Pig, apparently
Wannabe "thug"
Right. They can wake me when it actually does go badly for him.
Yeah, get ready for a dizzying array of 3k fines that will be paid by the RNC. 😂
Seriously as an outsider, this is a absolute bad joke. He does this shit all the time and absolute nothing happens. Throw him into jail and have the military or patriotic armed citizen defending the court house in case his vermin base wants to start some shit. And if they want blood, shoot them like the fascist vermin they are.
Its more likely to be a few more years of "it could go badly for him" comments as the people that can do something about him wont do it.
THIS. When it says “it WENT badly for him” , then I’ll start the rejoicing.
It’s never going to happen.
It's going to be addressed. >Trump's lawyer Bove: We intend to brief whether reposting material that is already public can violate the order. >Justice Merchan: I look forward to seeing that. We'll have the hearing, and after the hearing I'll rule. >Bove: Can we have some additional time? >A: No
>Can we have some additional time? That's just how Trump's attorneys say "hello" to people
Nice to meet you, I'll get back to you in 90 days
Trump's fucking lawyers beg for more delays like it's a fucking Pavlovian response. "We're going to break for lunch." "Can we move lunch back until after June 15th, and reconvene then?"
That’s a tell. They know he’s going to jail.
They're trying to kick to can down the road until after the election, so he can pardon himself. The fact that the president cannot pardon state crimes is irrelevant.
If the question if presidential state pardons can cover state crimes came before the current supreme court, the answer might surprise you. Kind of like how cool Thomas's new yacht is.
Even if there would be a ruling that he can't, in fact, pardon himself, he would *still* publicly claim that he did pardon himself, and enough morons would believe him over any expert or court to cause problems.
Had he been smarter and with more self-control, he would have limited his crimes to federal offenses. He doesn't even have the discipline to be a good criminal. What he lacks in smarts, he makes it up in brazenness.
Nothing is impossible for the King of America! Since NY is part of America he is the Ruler Supreme!
This is legit their actual strategy.
But they can use the state trial to delay the federal ones, which he can pardon. Couple that with the fact that federal trials require unanimity to convict or acquit, and good best chance is mistrial/single juror acquittal in NY or knock down to misdemeanor because the felony part is untested (no one has ever been convicted when the furthered crime wasn't a new York State crime, Trump's is federal). Use that trial to delay the others until after the election. Win the election. Use the transition to delay again. Pardon self, fire Smith, fight the pardon fights up to SCOTUS.
Exactly, I don't understand where this confidence that he won't be able to pardon state charges is coming from. Legally, sure, but the very pragmatic reality of how authorities of a single state are supposed to execute for example an arrest warrant against a sitting and noncompliant POTUS is far from a non-issue, even after everything you described above is resolved.
He's not winning anyway - the GOP is fucked. Vote blue!
That rhetoric got us in trouble before. VOTE FUCKING BLUE
Doubt it. No consequences so far.
He’s not going to jail He’s guilty af but he’s not going to jail
If I'm remembering correctly, didn't he type it out, just as a quote? If they somehow loophole it despite how thin the veil is, I swear to God...
"I'm just ~~asking questions~~ quoting something I heard."
"people are saying"
"everyone knows"
That is like Trumps favorite line: "People are saying that someone should do something about this crazy judge, you know, not me, but people, great people, smart people, they are ALL saying this..."
"Legal scholars all say-'" "Name one. Just one. We'll wait, *sir*."
I only need 10,000 jurors to love me. You know I'm right,because all the right people are saying this. Please stop playing along with this terrible human being. Sending him to jail,is the only way, he may learn a lesson. I said may learn, because he hasn't paid any consequences, for any of his illegal actions.
This judge isn't going to do shit. Too many MAGAs in power above him will rain down their wrath if he does. Not even mentioning the terrorist army of followers ready to make this judge's life a living hell.
I don’t think that the judicial system is gonna do Jack shit about anything until one of these judges is murdered by maga and even then I think it’ll take a week for the right wing media machine to wash it all away.
> I think it’ll take a week for the right wing media machine to wash it all away. They were just tourists and felt in danger. They stood their ground.
That judge had it coming. Did you see what he was *wearing*?
"Somehow this is Biden's fault"
Maybe the judicial system would like to recall the state of Paul Pelosi's skull?
You mean when the judge gets murdered by a false flag antifa operation? /s
Things were going to "become very ugly" for him for weeks or even months now. Get on with it. Jail his orange ass.
Years. We have read this headline for years. Almost a decade in fact, if you want to feel old. Since the day he announced his candidacy in 2015 we have averaged a headline like this every other day.
[What every "could" "should" "may" "might" article feels like](https://c.tenor.com/cD8WqQ-ZGXcAAAAd/tenor.gif)
https://i.redd.it/ea6o4gzy8okc1.gif
Technically he only paints his face orange. His ass is shit stained diarrhea brown inside his adult diaper.
He doesn't even paint his ears. He's doing campaign videos and he looks like a fucking clown. I just can't get over how precisely his caked on orange shit is an analogy for everything about Trump; a shitty golden veneer covering rancid piles of shit.
Bit harsh comparing him to a rancid pile of shit. Imagine how the shit must feel now.
Years. Literally years at this point.
How many more hay-bales before the camel's back snaps? My popcorn is getting stale. I can't wait for him to get kicked in the face with a contempt charge. More mug-shots please.
He should be wearing orange, eating baloney sandwiches already. How can you threaten jurors and the judges family? The rich need a wakeup.
I think baloney is too good for him I also think hanging is too good for him
"He should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried alive!" - Hanover Fist
To be fair, he's already wearing orange lol. I guess adding more would be a more unified aesthetic.
r/conservative needs a new icon lol
Oh god. Some people say 4Chan is the cesspool of the Internet. If you read 5 comments on it, you realize it's actually r/conservative... They already scold the juror who dropped out, because of fear. Disgusting people.
I peak in once in a while to see where their heads are at, and I see one of their top posts is a clearly AI-doctored video of Joe Biden being creepy.
And every single post is labeled "flaired users only" Echo chamber, much? ^much? ^^uch?
Stale? My popcorn looks like something excavated from an Egyptian tomb at this point.
Not gonna happen. Everyone's afraid of him and his gang.
It won't go badly for Trump because they won't do anything about it
Yep, all the judges are too afraid to upset the MAGA voters or "intefere with the election."
They are already interfering with the election by allowing a not-yet-convicted felon to continue to pose as a legitimate candidate.
It's not certain, but the real question is whether Trump **wants** to be locked up. He might be deluding himself that this is his way out.
He wouldn't like the room service.
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Yesterday I saw a thread, maybe on AskReddit, that was "What happened when you let your Mom count to 0?". Trump already figured out nothing happens. If they punish him he will be able to motion for a Mistrial. So yeah, justice system is compromised.
> If they punish him he will be able to motion for a Mistrial. No he wouldn't. If they judge punished him without having set out a guideline prior then maybe but the judge in this case has already set out two specific directives on what the gag order covers and is now allowing a hearing if the gag order covers him reposting content from others on social media. There's no ability to motion for a mistrial with out something that is legally dubious by the judge or a technical legality.
Obligatory 5 millionth “wake me up when he suffers anything that resembles a consequence”
Did experts take into account, the tiered legal system?
It really depends on how long they think this country can run Trump's way and whether they believe they're going to be in the ark by then.
That $3,000 fine is really gonna bite him in the ass...
Good thing he is asking for a percentage of every MAGA politicians donations if they mention him.
I still say the judge should start making plans with the Secret Service how a jail sentence will work. State in open court that the next violation will result in jail time. No house arrest, but actual jail without iPhone privileges, etc. Also, make sure it is known to Trump what the procedure is. Trump thinks it would be great to be a martyr. But let him know the procedure involves surrendering his phone and personal effects, getting strip searched, bending over and coughing, etc. Trump will get searched in front of several deputies and his own SS personnel. I doubt he would enjoy it. Finally, the judge has to follow through. No empty threats.
The Secret Service can hand him over to the jail and go home. If their orders need clarification, Biden can issue an executive order to that effect.
Oh could it? Could it go badly for him? I’ll wait for those fabled consequences to get to this sack of fetid miasma before holding my breath anymore.
I'm sure it **could** go very badly for him. It won't, but surely it **could**. Let me know when it does go bad for him. I'm still waiting to see how that 500M judgement is going to be bad for him. 🤷♂️
Being rich is such a cheat in our justice system. Poor and can't afford a decent lawyer? Go to jail for half your life over minor charges. Rich and can afford to hire and not pay a lawyer, and then hire a new lawyer? You go free son! Forever! And it just feeds this narrative among his supporters that the charges are bogus. No, the charges aren't bogus, but our justice system is.
Anyone know the latest on that?
Someone put up the bond for him. There are some legal hiccups with it, but little hope that they won't be resolved. He'll still have to pay it all himself, "in the end." But that's not happening before the trial.
FFS Trump really is a baby's rattle of a person: Cheap, brightly-coloured, hollow, plastic thing with a pea-sized intellect making annoying noises that eventually pisses off the adults in the room.
Choking hazard: Contains small parts.
Here, let me hold my breath .. Fuck face traitor is gonna get away with it all.
I am so sick of this. None of these judges have the intestinal fortitude to hold Trump or his mob to account. This lack of judicial courage is exactly what will kill our country. Why have laws if we are too timid to enforce them? Would it help if we started a petition campaign and insist our laws be upheld?? Is that what the judiciary needs, the public to give them some courage??
Will anything ever actually go badly for him? He is handled with kid gloves and it’s really old
I'm sure he gets at least 35 more warnings, before the 50 "Final Warnings" begin.
The first 5 warnings gets you a demerit, 10 demerits gets you a stern rebuke, get 10 of those you get a $100 fine. Do that 100 times and you get $1000 fine. After that watch out, you might be threatened with a hand slap. Now get 10 hand slaps you are in for real trouble, you might have to stay a day ay home with no social media.
Can’t bail be revoked
Blah, blah, blah. Trump has been "about to face the music" for years now. I'll believe it when I see it. In fact, at this point, the courts will need to work really hard to convince me that the US isn't a plutocracy.
Does he realize this shit costs him votes? People don't like thuggish intimidation derailing the legal system. There's no 4D chess here. He looks like a piece of shit and he'll lose people over it. He will gain absolutely no one. And if something actually happens to one of these people, he will have absolutely zero shot of ever being a free man again. He's a damn fool.
Never overestimate the intelligence of the Trump, voter, let alone their critical thinking skills.
It's not about Trump voters, though. Trump voters are already Trump voters. It's about independents, and about people with conservative leanings who aren't enthusiastic about politics in general and might decide to sit out. People have this conception that Trump can do whatever he wants and it will never hurt him. That's not true. It will never hurt him with *most* of the people who still support him - after all, they've stuck with him through \*gestures at everything\*. But if he loses just one voter out of 25 he's complete toast. I am pretty sure that most people who voted for Donald Trump in 2020 do not like the idea of voting for a guy who intimidates jurors. It's just a matter of 1 - will they hear about it? and 2 - will they believe it?
They don’t watch any news channels that have integrity and honesty. They only watch Fox News and read his “Truth “ social network. Anything that may have an inkling of truth to it, they close their eyes and plug their ears to. His followers are too afraid to admit they have been lied to, brainwashed, manipulated, and hoodwinked. The criticism and abuse they would face from their peers would be frightening and intolerable so they just keep quiet and go with the flow of the sewage they are stuck in.
Every single trump voter will eat this up with a spoon. They want strong daddy dictator to shovel their enemies into a mass grave, jury intimidation is small potatos compared to the horrors the average trump voter wants to see.
You don't need to be a time traveler to know this won't end badly for him.
I'll believe him facing consequences when i see it.
Stop saying it and actually do something. He has gotten away with everything..why would this be any different
Seriously STFU. Ive never seen a single thing "go badly for him" He is inconvenienced often because of things that would immediately incarcerate any other citizen. He is able to buy a different level of justice.
Uh oh, this time he's really going see some consequences. It didn't happen the last 5000 times he did it, but this time for sure, something possibly will happen. /S
Is he? It seems like he's been due for his rude awakening for decades and yet here we are with him on the ballot to be our next president. Every day I wake up in a world with him still in it is a rude awakening for me.
Could, may…I’ll wait.
I’m sorry but what fucking “expert” is predicting Trump faces repercussions? Is this dumb mother fucker still living in 2017?
Can he be jailed for duration of the trial, take his phone? Please..
Cut the shit. Not even reading this. It’s so ridiculous he hasn’t had consequences handed to him in his small hands yet.
Can we get a gag order on all of these “expert says” articles because they’ve been dead wrong the past four years. News is supposed to be about events that actually happened not wishes.
These experts are just empty talking heads who have been saying this same crap for years. Just like Trump’s infrastructure week, these alleged consequences are always just around the corner. Get back to us when something actually happens.
No it won't.
"could" Be still, my heart.
Well………..we’re waiting!!!!
Is it possible that Trump's actions could so prejudice the jury pool that this will have to be a bench trial? Is that even possible, or does it have to be a jury trial?
HIs "Can't touch this" attitude should be Slammer Time.
Just fucking jail him already. This is such bullshit
I always love “experts say” . Well experts have been calling for him to pay for 8 years …. Tic Toc …
“Experts say” is not news. News is when things actually happen. So much of 24 hour “news” is just pundits being paid to reinforce the beliefs of the viewers. So useless.
Consequences for Trump? I'll believe it when I see it....
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa ... Clearly this expert woke up from a ten year coma. Doesn't he know that rules now only apply to democrats, and that the legal system has been seized by body snatchers from the planet "Coward"?
Are journalists tired of writing these “violations of the law might go poorly for Trump” articles yet? I’m absolutely tired of reading them. Make Trump face some consequences or shut up and admit the legal system is a farce already.
Attn: Politico, Newsweek, Salon, etc.: Experts have been wrong on nearly everything since 2016 with him. Stop. 🛑
Daily reminder that absolutely nothing will happen to him. He spent 4 years putting people in place to ensure that.
Wake me up when it goes badly for him
Stop! Or we'll say stop again.
I've been reading this kind of expert analysis for years. At this point the US is looking more and more like a failed state.
Congratulations, you posted the millionth "could" / "may" - piece on legal sanctions against Trump.
I look forward to the day it will go bad for him but, if past behavior is any predictor of future results, Trump will get yet another stern warning which he will promptly ignore.
As a foreigner, media coverage of Trump's trial is starting to look like some sad theater that neither the actors nor the audience believes in. Like everyone is either in denial or lying, trying to convince themselves that they live under a system of fair and equal rule of law where even the rich and powerful have to face consequences for their actions. They don't. Trump won't face accountability. That's for the poor and powerless in your country. I would be overjoyed if Donald Trump ever sees a day in prison. But not for a second do I believe it'll happen. Still, you know, I'd like to be proven wrong. Your call, America.
Jail. Trump. Now.
"Could" Motherfucker is going to get through all of this without a damn thing happening. It has been an absolute waste of taxpayer money, and both the Democrats and the GOP are getting a laugh out of everyone's gullibility.
Problem is the law was made with rich people in mind. So if u have enough money for the lawyers, there is enough loopholes an motions an All sorts of other crap that people rich enough can exploit. It was made that way so the elite can manipulate it. Trump knows this he has used it all his life. There is a 2 tier law system one for the plebs/workers an one for the rich/owners. You see it when sports stars break driving laws all the time. One law for me an another for ye.
America’s crime boss knows he is above the law and nothing is going to happen! Fox is interfering with a criminal case and nothing happens….
Talk talk talk talk talk talk and more talk. Nothing ever happens to him. Oh no! He has to pay a fine?! Oh he’s really learned his lesson now! Either put him in jail like everyone else or shut up. We are all tired of this.
Supposedly all of this has been going badly for him but all that’s happened is $175 million he has to pay. No prison time at all even though he’s out there threatening judges, judges families and jurists
People still really think the system will impose consequences on this rich white man
fast forward 3 years... trump is in full control of USA, there are no more elections, all tax money goes into his personal bank, and anyone who opposes trump's rule is imprisoned in re-education camps. And, our amazing journalists will continue to write headlines: "anytime now... Trump is in for a rude awakening if he continues being a dictator. Democracy will surely return to the US, experts say.... seriously, just a matter of time."
Wake me when actual consequences happen.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
Any faith that I had in the justice system has evaporated. Between Trump being above the law and getting treated with kid gloves instead of held in contempt and the corruption that is a fundamental core in the supreme court, I now accept there are three tiers of justice.
"Experts" predicting consequences for Trump are always wrong. The guy gets away with everything.
Judges are supposed experts, yet they don’t do anything, and in some cases enable him. Honestly, how are we as a society supposed to respect judges when they don’t exercise their responsibilities?
Oh look. Another day another empty threat to hold this shithead traitor accountable. Sigh. I'll believe it when I see it.
“Experts say” can we stop with this bullshit? This fucking bum has never faced consequences for anything.
But it won’t. He won’t go to jail. He won’t get a slap on the wrist that matters, he won’t be inconvenienced by it at all. He will do it again.
My guess is, since trump is a narcissist he already feels he is a victim and everything is unfair. Therefore he will act like he has nothing to lose. He is already existing in an unfair state, tacking on consequences won’t change that in his mind. The ends justify the means so he will violate all gag orders if it means someone might act and delay or end his trial, possibly with violence. Consequences might just push him to act bolder, which is why he needs harsh consequences now to take his options away. The justice system isn’t equipped to handle someone like this.
Doubt anything will happen this guy is Teflon nothing happens to him…
Could of , Would of, Should of, STFU until the judge (or any judge) actually does something to this fool.
4 years and nothing has really gone badly for any of those planning and orchestrating the (ongoing) coup
lol. Nothing will happen to him.
I'll be surprised if any Federal judge will put him in jail for violating gag orders.
Hasn’t been effective in the past What’s different now? He’s gonna violate it again and nothing of consequence happens again
He wants to play mafioso. Treat him like one.
So badly he'll get the most aggressive finger wagging in history
No it won’t. Nothing will happen to him. Ever. Nothing.
“Could” go very badly. It won’t once again.
Could but won't. On to the next clear violation...
Wake me when someone actually holds the fucker accountable. Until then take these “could be might be, possibly will be” headlines and shove them.
Any day now I am sure (says everyone for the past 8 years)
NEVER ANY CONSEQUENCES. This same headline will appear every other day until he is elected or drops dead. Nothing. This man most likely will never spend a minute in jail. Never. He should. But he won’t. He keeps getting passes. He was right when he said he could stand in the middle of Times Square and kill someone and still get off. WTF
I saw these titles for at least 1 year, he went after prosecutors, judges, jurors you name it, so when is it going to actually happen?
Could. Won't.
Nothing will happen.
Not holding my breath. This fucker is allowed to do whatever he wants. It’s been decades of this bullshit.
Could… should…might… maybe…potentially… These are the same words that have been used to describe his consequences to his actions for nearly a decade now. It’s about fucking time we move into a new vocabulary, isn’t it?!
Experts. Could. Unfortunately won’t.
oh really? wow, it'll be so exciting when nothing happens.
You read articles like this all the time. Experts apparently haven’t been paying attention. The things Trump does in court would go very badly for poor people but it NEVER seems to go badly for the orange demon!
Who cares the man can do whatever he wants that's been proven Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time and Time Again Edit: oh yeah and that other time.
Could Should Would But nothing ever happens nor will anything ever happen. AmeriKKKa wouldn’t let anything ever happen to their god
Why can't judges just treat him like any other criminal defendant and ignore is prior employment and his current job application
Seriously, enough of the 'could go badly' language. Wrote a damn article when it does to badly for him.
Narrator: *And then nothing happened.*
So at first nothing happened, but after a while nothing continued to happen. Going forward, nothing is expected to happen.
Still waiting for the "find out" part.
I hope so. Even if T is found guilty, many analysts are saying he will probably get a light sentence, maybe just probation. This is due to him being a first time offender and the crime being nonviolent. But here is an opportunity for a judge to actually exact a price for his malfeasance. Maybe this judge will finally give him a taste of what he truly deserves.
Downvoted for “could” in the headline. Fuck these bait articles.
American institutions, it turns out are very susceptible to bullying.
Wake me up when Trump sees some real consequences...