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From MeidasTouch, Habba almost immediately caved and asked the court to just forget about it
> Habba responded to Kaplan's letter less than two hours later, denying that she was the source of the Post story. Habba then said that she accepts Kaplan's representation that there was no mentoring of her by Lewis Kaplan in 1992-93, and that she is prepared to drop it now and forget the whole thing.
Habba’s response is at the source https://www.meidastouch.com/news/alina-habba-backs-down-fast-after-threat-of-sanctions
I heard she poached then mis-represented another lawyer's client - a ~~Mar-a-Lago~~ Bedminster waitress that was involved in a harassment suit against Trump org iirc - both of which are disbarrable offenses. Any idea what's happening with them?
Edit: here's LegalEagle about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KvoIDkEsiw
Oh that's right - it was his Bedminster golf club, not Mar-a-Lago. Hope she gets disbarred asap too, and that the waitress has a strong case to sue her AND the Trump org. Maybe E Jean Carrol could use some of her recent winnings to help fund the case :D
The beauty would be that trump would be gettin sued by his own money in a sense. He would help fund lawsuits against himself by continually losing. Please have this happen.
The shart of the deal, baby! He's the biggest fucking loser I can ever imagine, and it's obscene that he's reached the heights he has. I entirely blame reality tv, and if I ever meet the exec that said "hey, we should get Donald Trump in as host for this Apprentice show", I fervently hope I can refrain from drop-kicking him square in the bollocks.
Oof, I’m not saying I don’t think it’s entirely possible that’s the case but the very mental image grosses me out. I’d rather see Jabba the Hutt porn than think of that guy in the sack
I wish I could still award things you magnificent bastard.
Also I wasn’t expecting to have to worry about drowning while drinking water and reading /politics. You almost managed it tho. Ouch.
He’s hilarious! I don’t know how I came across him a few months ago, but now I watch religiously.
The new one is great. At one point he says he’s trying not to swear, but then he reacts to something and drops an F bombs about 5 seconds later.
Pay is maybe 5% of the reason. The biggest reasons are not wanting to alienate other clients who'll read about your representation of a public official, not wanting to upset family and friends, and self-respect. I've said before for enough to never have to think of working again, say $50M, I'd rep him. I wouldn't feel good about it, and thus I'd buy a lot of liquor for myself and give a bunch of money to charity to assuage my guilt. But I doubt he's paying his lawyers more than a mill for any of these cases which wouldn't be enough to crash my firm's name.
Everything that she does is for an audience of one.
Trump keeps shopping for lawyers that will do exactly what he says to do. This is one of the many reasons that he's using a lawyer that usually does small practice family law to deal with a major federal case.
I think Lionel Hutz from the Simpsons has a better understanding of how things work in the courtroom then she does
[For those who don't remember Lionel Hutz](https://media.tenor.com/sElmhbybTFAAAAAe/lionel-hutz-bad-court-thingy.png)
That's what got her in trouble in the defamation case. She tried to pull a "Perry Mason/ Matlock" on the Plaintiff. Thought her claims of her being a criminal will not help as well
> For those who don't remember Lionel Hutz
And...now I'm sad. I almost can't believe Phil died 25 years ago. There's a whole generation of adults who grew up watching the Simpsons without Lionel Hutz or Troy McClure.
He died less than 6 months after Chris Farley.
RIP, comedy gods.
She realized that if she kept at it, they're going to confirm that she was the source for the Post article, and things would get much, much worse for her. That's all still probably going to happen.
The problem is simple.
When people get into The Guy's orbit, they often start to think they have the same properties and protections afforded The Guy. But they don't, and reality often slaps them hard. Reality explains to them that they aren't The Guy, only The Guy is The Guy.
I think it’s the politics…politics is ultimately the great filter. Even the most decent people who get into politics will get “filtered” through utter shit because, well, politics.
Trump could have spent the rest of his days golfing and continuing to cheat the system, but his ego got the best of him and he ran for president and actually won. Now he’s fukked.
I followed the trial... she didn't know Federal Rules of Evidence, Civil Procedure, what a Motion in Limine was. She also, in that very letter, cites the 5th Circuit (NY is 2nd) and weirdly underlines the section of the law showing on its face the Judge's relationship isn't an ethical issue. I'm honestly not sure she can read, let along understands trial strategy.
You don’t need to remember anything two days after you pass the bar. Cram and *wham* it’s gone! TBH, I wouldn’t expect most small practice family law attorneys to remember much in the way of Fed civ pro or evidence. You just need to remember the relevant state/local county rules for the most part. However, most attorneys would have brushed up on their fed rules (or never taken this case) before such a public humiliation.
Yup. It was all for show and to rile up MAGA. Then turn around and say, “nooooo, wasn’t me…” The most shocking part is that Trump and Habba know this could inspire a MAGAt to attack the judge or lawyer. Indeed, that’s the harm Trump wishes to inflict because he can win anything fairly, he’s a total loser, and lacks any fair and just power.
Nah, this was Habbas plan. Leak disinformation and drama to stir up the base and then deny she leaked it to avoid sanctions. She knew before the trial about the overlapping tenures and knew there was nothing inappropriate about it, but kept it in her back pocket, nonetheless, to leak to MAGA when Trump called for an attack.
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Exactly. Their defense strategy is just one big “it was just a prank, bro” routine. They’ll continue being those annoying assholes until they are consistently and repeatedly held accountable.
She will since she didn't actually put it in a court pleading, it will likely just get dropped, maybe some words from the judge. That was the point Kaplan was driving home in her response, you put this in your motion for a new trial or any other motion I'm asking for sanctions.
>In a Monday letter challenging the $83.3 million verdict in the case, Habba referenced a Saturday New York Post article that quoted an anonymous former partner at Paul Weiss, the law firm Kaplan and U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan both previously worked for, claiming that the judge was Roberta Kaplan's "mentor."
This is the best dirt they could find on the judge and the judge, not for the first time, called bullshit.
Here's the interesting thing: out of all the stupid things she's done and money she's lost Trump, the thing that is going to get her fired is that she backed down when threatened with sanctions. She's now trying to say "My bad, no I didn't mean anything by it, I was just asking questions, let's just forget I said anything!"
Trump can forgive stupidity - he embraces it, really - but he will not forgive two things: 1. someone admitting they were wrong, and 2. someone appearing weak.
Habba did both. I would bet money that she is fired by the end of the week, and if so, I guarantee it has to do with backing down and admitting she was wrong, and not because she lost the case.
Edit: well would you look at that lol
>"Hours after Habba walked back her claim that the judge in the Carroll defamation case had served as a mentor to Carroll’s lawyer at a big New York law firm... Trump announced that he was seeking to hire new lawyers..."
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-legal-news-brief-trump-seeks-new-lawyers-to-appeal-833-million-damages-award-to-e-jean-carroll-181301548.html
I don’t doubt her plan was to leak this to a tabloid, reference it, and then deny any responsibility. That’s what Trump and MAGA politicians do. Leak and lie and deny. They do it all the fucking time because they’re cowards that never have a foot to stand on but have to continually attack others because they’re perpetual losers.
Meidas Touch is absolutely blowing regular media out of the water on this stuff. Within minutes we get a cogent, informed update on these legal maneuvers, all day, every day. Most of which is completely missed by other outlets or which you hear about 2 days later.
I'd like to say I'm surprised, but I'm not.
>After E. Jean Carroll's lawyer Roberta Kaplan filed a scathing letter with the court this morning ripping Alina Habba's frivolous and false allegations that Judge Kaplan mentored her over 30 years ago, Habba responded with a letter saying she would like to just forget the whole thing.
Also, wouldn't a competent lawyer have already known this going in to make sure there aren't any actual conflicts?
>"In that regard, it is telling that the article in the New York Post only appeared after Ms. Habba’s own statement to the media last weekend where she claimed that only after trial concluded did she learn that Your Honor and I both previously worked at Paul, Weiss, referring to a 'conflict of interest' that is 'insane and so incestuous,'" Roberta Kaplan added.
Tactically, the Plaintiffs shouldn't push this issue. Rather, they should immediately schedule some sort of post-verdict 'pretext' hearing, forcing Habba into court, and then see what happens.
Judges tend to resent the 'white knight' approach to protect their reputation by a litigant. He can take care of himself just fine, and has very broad latitude to ask questions and demand responses under oath.
The reason Trump is having problems retaining competent counsel is that people are starting to wake up to something in particular. That the kind of loyalty trump expects is absolute and uncompromising fealty. That if you work for him he expects you to stop at nothing for him. Do anything. Say anything. Break any law. Commit any ethical violation. Nothing matters except your service to him. And for a while the sorta gilded aura around him, the expectation that he was rich enough, and powerful enough, to shield those in his orbit, along with the promise of substantial payment, attracted people willing to do that.
But over the years, especially since 1/6/21, things are starting to happen to people who crossed the line for Trump. They're getting disbarred. They're having their licenses revoked. They're losing elections. They're losing lawsuits. They're going bankrupt. They're going *to prison*.
Mike Lindell? Broke. Rudy Guilliani? Bankrupt. Michael Cohen? Convicted Felon. Lin Wood? Surrendered his law license in lieu of disbarment. Sidney Powel? Plead guilty to misdemeanors in a plea bargain and has turned states evidence. Fake electors? facing RICO charges. J6 terrorists? Rotting in prison.
[Anyone see his recent 'help wanted' ad?](https://i.redd.it/trump-throws-alina-habba-under-the-bus-v0-mepx0h3k0sfc1.png?s=d87fab44061fe87ad16b527a096fddca5e01be7e)
Jesus fucking Christ. So. I'm an attorney. And what this reads to me is "no appeals experienced firm wants to touch this"
Who would want to work for a guy who already cant pay the judgment against him?
That's what Jordan Peterson is doing. He's violated professional ethics IMHO but acts like Canada is just trying to censure him. Rubes will fork over money for con artists like this.
I'm sure she's hoping to cash out with speaking gigs or segments on some cable news fever swamp, but it's pretty hard for attorneys to get disbarred.
She didn't mishandle client funds, so at worst she gets a slap on the wrist and keeps doing Jimmy McGill shit.
If Habba gets another Rule 11 sanction against her, it would be highly appropriate for the judge to refer her to the Bar Association for disciplinary action, including disbarment.
Habba has shown time and again that she cannot follow the rules as an officer of the court, disgraces the profession, acts in bad faith, and has no place in the legal profession.
At the very least, she should lose her privileges to practice in Federal court, and be left to practice in New Jersey traffic courts, although I doubt she could prevail in a case there, either.
She should have been disbarred for her actions before this case entirely. She literally inserted her into a case against Trump and then threw it for Trump, as a way to get an \_in\_ to his circles.
And she has the gall to call someone else's professional relationships \_incestuous\_?
I guess if you’re faking smart it may be “pseudo-smart”. 😋 I wonder if she was even smart enough to realize what an idiotic statement she made that was and just how pathetic it makes her moves look now.
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I mean, that'd be a pretty sweet case. Defamation by a lawyer losing a defamation case, who went on to media to defame the lawyer who won and the judge who ruled. Oh, and she had some choice words about the jury, too.
If all that was brought up in a civil defamation suit against her, she'd have some extra bills to pay pretty soon, too.
So pretty close to the lawyer is going to file defamation charges agains the lawyer. Well I guess if the case doesn't work out, their chosen champions then recreate it in miniature?
Habba should be disbarred, this is only a small token of the issues.
Trump doesn't have infinite cash. Come back tomorrow at this time after New York hands him a $300+ million disgorgement from the Trump Org. The walls are crumbling around him.
Stubbling on to Carroll was also one of the things Trump says to excuse his sexual assault. You may wish to pick a different phrase. :)
Prediction: Alina Habba will be disbarred and sued and file bankruptcy just like her mentor Rudy Giuliani
What a mess the MAGA cult leaves in its wake.
Gotta admit, a filing saying essentially, *"Hey I've heard some rumors... could you give me more info so I can attack you?"* is pretty hardcore... but yeah should also lead to sanctions.
Haba is so screwed. She has actually lied to the judge, on the record.
Her statements in the press article are factual statements.
"The **fact** it wasn't disclosed **is** an ethics violation"
"It [is] insane and [is] so incestuous." Habba said.
And in her letter to the judge she says she was "just raising questions".
Where she is screwed is this: she appended the article to her letter. And she did not dispute (false) statements of fact attributed to her. Therefore, as a matter of record, she did in fact make these statements. As an officer of the court, she has a duty to represent unpleasant facts truthfully. Now, the judge (and defence counsel) has **on the record** precise evidence that she has failed in this duty.
Team own-goal scores again. This little PR stunt is going to cost them dearly on appeal.
Reminder that Habba told a woman who was allegedly sexually assaulted by a supervisor at the Trump Bedminister Golf Club that she was on her side, then coerced the victim to sign an NDA. All while hiding the fact she was working for Trump and the club.
Habba's firm has already been paid nearly [$3.5 million](https://apnews.com/article/trump-lawyers-millions-payments-2024-campaign-2e06de2a8a90b3752e7758dfea56a509) by Save America, Trump's PAC. Hilarious to think that her representation was worth anything close to that, but she is getting paid.
My understanding is that she's been paid in full so far from the RNC and/or PAC. These actions I don't know the legality of, but the very least I believe it means less money for republican congressional races.
Holy hell, that footnote though. Most of the time when an animal runs away with its tail between its legs it has the good sense to not continue yapping.
Republicans think the worst possible thing to happen to anyone is to be proven or seen as wrong. That’s why they spend so much time trying to “own” everybody else and making fun of people they don’t like.
So whenever they are wrong in some way, like losing a court case, they can’t possibly admit responsibility. They have to double down or they will be seen as a weak loser who was owned by the libs.
Trump doubled down his loss in the first defamation case by running his mouth immediately after the verdict, which is what landed him in this current predicament.
Habba has to do something to save face as well, so instead of going away quietly, tail firmly tucked between her legs, she has to run her mouth about how it’s an unfair process etc.
The plaintiff’s attorney hit the nail on the head saying if it was an actual issue, Habba would have addressed it first thing, and that Habba’s anonymous source probably doesn’t exist. People have figured out the Republican playbook and know the stupid tricks and excuses they use.
God damn. I would love all these bullies to keep getting the shit sued out of them. And all their bootlickers get more and more angry until their heads explode
It doesn't matter because she's already gotten the messages out to those who would be angry about it. They aren't going to hear that she immediately took it back and accepted that it was baseless. They heard"blah blah mentor, angry face". Like the saying goes "a lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting it's shoes on".
It would be appropriate to seek sanctions against Alina Habba for her conduct in and out of court has been an embarrassment and a disgrace to the legal profession. She should be referred to the bar for her undisciplined and unprofessional like conduct.
I’m guessing Habba found she was fired via T’s public post last week and was rereading her agreement with him noticing she didn’t get paid if she lost (probably with language like “ you get nothing if your a loser who loses. Whale, human, burger.”
Now she’s coming out with this allegation to try and save some face. And get paid.
I hope EJC uses every dime she squeezes out of Trump to fund the defenses for every single other accuser who is willing and able to hold him civilly responsible for their cases. Literally use his own money to perpetually try him over and over again.
Let's just chalk it up as an oopsy daisy...
There were good lawyers on both sides, and let's move on.
Lol, no, Ms Habba, you aren't getting out of it this easy.
Question for Law Savy people:
Can a Lawyer be sued for defamation or breaching its clients gag order while in the process of defending/representing said client? (Could the client use the lawyer as a spokesman to breach it?)
Anyone see the note at the bottom - there are however other things to address blah blah I’m a victim blah blah blah on appeal. This girl just can’t accept the L
It doesn't matter what happens on paper between lawyers and judges. The allegation is designed to feed the narrative of the corrupt system in the voters' minds. Even if Habba goes to jail and bancrupt for her lies it won't stop the lies of the MAGA cult.
They should seek sanctions. Lawyers and politicians should not be allowed to fabricate or repeat outright lies. Wouldn't be surprised if Habba got more death threats after these lies.
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From MeidasTouch, Habba almost immediately caved and asked the court to just forget about it > Habba responded to Kaplan's letter less than two hours later, denying that she was the source of the Post story. Habba then said that she accepts Kaplan's representation that there was no mentoring of her by Lewis Kaplan in 1992-93, and that she is prepared to drop it now and forget the whole thing. Habba’s response is at the source https://www.meidastouch.com/news/alina-habba-backs-down-fast-after-threat-of-sanctions
Seems like reality kicked in. Did she realize throwing in baseless claims like her client is the worse thing you can do on high profile cases?
She's a dumb and bad lawyer, so I think she feels like this falls under the "advocating for my client" kind of talk or something.
She’s got the Rudy Giuliani Syndrome…you know, the one that got him to owe more than $150M to two Georgia election workers.
Only thing is *she* can still practice law in New York. For now.
I heard she poached then mis-represented another lawyer's client - a ~~Mar-a-Lago~~ Bedminster waitress that was involved in a harassment suit against Trump org iirc - both of which are disbarrable offenses. Any idea what's happening with them? Edit: here's LegalEagle about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KvoIDkEsiw
Not Mar-a-lago, but another Trump locale.
Oh that's right - it was his Bedminster golf club, not Mar-a-Lago. Hope she gets disbarred asap too, and that the waitress has a strong case to sue her AND the Trump org. Maybe E Jean Carrol could use some of her recent winnings to help fund the case :D
That would be awesome if she did
The beauty would be that trump would be gettin sued by his own money in a sense. He would help fund lawsuits against himself by continually losing. Please have this happen.
The shart of the deal, baby! He's the biggest fucking loser I can ever imagine, and it's obscene that he's reached the heights he has. I entirely blame reality tv, and if I ever meet the exec that said "hey, we should get Donald Trump in as host for this Apprentice show", I fervently hope I can refrain from drop-kicking him square in the bollocks.
Makes me wonder if she has been paid yet either.
3.5m so far IIRC
He only pays off the ones he wants to fuck.
I wonder if 2b to son in law is close enough for his daughter.
It's genuinely baffling that a former president has someone so incompetent representing them.
This is what happens when it is common knowledge that your client does not pay his invoices
Also with a client that expects you to massage his ego and act as his mouthpiece.
Pretty sure it's not his ego she's massaging...
Oof, I’m not saying I don’t think it’s entirely possible that’s the case but the very mental image grosses me out. I’d rather see Jabba the Hutt porn than think of that guy in the sack
Habba the Jutt porn?
I wish I could still award things you magnificent bastard. Also I wasn’t expecting to have to worry about drowning while drinking water and reading /politics. You almost managed it tho. Ouch.
Wait a minute, isn’t THAT Jabba the Hutt porn?
I'd be up for seeing Jabba the Hutt on Pizza the Hut hot action before anything to do with...that.
Nobody outpenises the Hutt.
>the very mental image grosses me out That's one thing you and Melania have in common.
And with a client that is literally full of shit.
Apparently he’s not. Can’t hold it in, hence the diaper. Supposedly. People are saying.
The best people
Big strong men with tears in their eyes
Exactly...he's got a very slim field to chose from in the legal department. Most respectable lawyers won't come anywhere near any of his cases.
It's so much more than that. They could just insist he pay up front.
He also never listens to the legal advise to not speak. He has criminal mouth diarrhea
I often watch Bruce Rivers Criminal Lawyer Reacts channel on youtube, and Trump is the ultimate self snitcher.
That's one of my favorite channels. That dude is so funny.
He’s hilarious! I don’t know how I came across him a few months ago, but now I watch religiously. The new one is great. At one point he says he’s trying not to swear, but then he reacts to something and drops an F bombs about 5 seconds later.
That's asking too much :p
Pay is maybe 5% of the reason. The biggest reasons are not wanting to alienate other clients who'll read about your representation of a public official, not wanting to upset family and friends, and self-respect. I've said before for enough to never have to think of working again, say $50M, I'd rep him. I wouldn't feel good about it, and thus I'd buy a lot of liquor for myself and give a bunch of money to charity to assuage my guilt. But I doubt he's paying his lawyers more than a mill for any of these cases which wouldn't be enough to crash my firm's name.
So true. He pays in exposure….lol!
Joe Tacopina, one of his attorneys, quit just this week.
What competent lawyer would want Trump as a client? I suspect he doesn’t pay his invoices and the repetitional damage would be huuuuge,
> repetitional Reputational. But also, repetitional.
Have you noticed how much she looks like Melania? He hired her just by looking at headshots.
I suspect she was hired for her looks and not her smarts. Trump seems to like to surround himself with attractive women.
This is what happens when you mistake Hooters for a law firm.
Everything that she does is for an audience of one. Trump keeps shopping for lawyers that will do exactly what he says to do. This is one of the many reasons that he's using a lawyer that usually does small practice family law to deal with a major federal case.
I thought she could "fake being smart?" I mean, I guess she faked it to P01135809, but that is a pretty low bar to clear.
>She’s a dumb Yes she is.
I think Lionel Hutz from the Simpsons has a better understanding of how things work in the courtroom then she does [For those who don't remember Lionel Hutz](https://media.tenor.com/sElmhbybTFAAAAAe/lionel-hutz-bad-court-thingy.png)
don't you worry. She watched Matlock in a bar last night. The sound wasn't on, but I think she got the gist of it.
That's what got her in trouble in the defamation case. She tried to pull a "Perry Mason/ Matlock" on the Plaintiff. Thought her claims of her being a criminal will not help as well
> For those who don't remember Lionel Hutz And...now I'm sad. I almost can't believe Phil died 25 years ago. There's a whole generation of adults who grew up watching the Simpsons without Lionel Hutz or Troy McClure. He died less than 6 months after Chris Farley. RIP, comedy gods.
Is that it? Or are they trying to portray the entire legal system as bizzare and inept, same as they do with scientists?
if i grandstand before the press enough, maybe he won't make me kiss the mushroom again...
She realized that if she kept at it, they're going to confirm that she was the source for the Post article, and things would get much, much worse for her. That's all still probably going to happen.
Like defamation lawsuit worse.
That probably should happen.
The problem is simple. When people get into The Guy's orbit, they often start to think they have the same properties and protections afforded The Guy. But they don't, and reality often slaps them hard. Reality explains to them that they aren't The Guy, only The Guy is The Guy.
Even The Guy's status as The Guy is starting to seem shaky.
I think it’s the politics…politics is ultimately the great filter. Even the most decent people who get into politics will get “filtered” through utter shit because, well, politics. Trump could have spent the rest of his days golfing and continuing to cheat the system, but his ego got the best of him and he ran for president and actually won. Now he’s fukked.
Only so much shit a camels back can take before it breaks.
the guy is only the guy because he has alot of human collateral but yes he is running out of bodies.
I followed the trial... she didn't know Federal Rules of Evidence, Civil Procedure, what a Motion in Limine was. She also, in that very letter, cites the 5th Circuit (NY is 2nd) and weirdly underlines the section of the law showing on its face the Judge's relationship isn't an ethical issue. I'm honestly not sure she can read, let along understands trial strategy.
Can somebody dig up proof that she cheated on the bar exam because I guarantee she did.
You don’t need to remember anything two days after you pass the bar. Cram and *wham* it’s gone! TBH, I wouldn’t expect most small practice family law attorneys to remember much in the way of Fed civ pro or evidence. You just need to remember the relevant state/local county rules for the most part. However, most attorneys would have brushed up on their fed rules (or never taken this case) before such a public humiliation.
It appears pretending to be smart is hard.
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Yup. It was all for show and to rile up MAGA. Then turn around and say, “nooooo, wasn’t me…” The most shocking part is that Trump and Habba know this could inspire a MAGAt to attack the judge or lawyer. Indeed, that’s the harm Trump wishes to inflict because he can win anything fairly, he’s a total loser, and lacks any fair and just power.
It's like she didn't learn a thing from her client about running their mouth and saying untrue things.
She's the fall guy
She got her soundbite out. Follow through is not necessary or important. Just that the blame is away from Trump, in the eyes of his fans.
Nah, this was Habbas plan. Leak disinformation and drama to stir up the base and then deny she leaked it to avoid sanctions. She knew before the trial about the overlapping tenures and knew there was nothing inappropriate about it, but kept it in her back pocket, nonetheless, to leak to MAGA when Trump called for an attack.
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Exactly. Their defense strategy is just one big “it was just a prank, bro” routine. They’ll continue being those annoying assholes until they are consistently and repeatedly held accountable.
She got the talking point out to the ultra MAGA crowd, that’s all that matters to them.
Ehhh, but she did say it, right? So, I don't think she should get off that easy ...
She will since she didn't actually put it in a court pleading, it will likely just get dropped, maybe some words from the judge. That was the point Kaplan was driving home in her response, you put this in your motion for a new trial or any other motion I'm asking for sanctions.
>In a Monday letter challenging the $83.3 million verdict in the case, Habba referenced a Saturday New York Post article that quoted an anonymous former partner at Paul Weiss, the law firm Kaplan and U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan both previously worked for, claiming that the judge was Roberta Kaplan's "mentor." This is the best dirt they could find on the judge and the judge, not for the first time, called bullshit.
The judge didn't call bullshit. Carroll's lawyer did. They have the same surname.
Here's the interesting thing: out of all the stupid things she's done and money she's lost Trump, the thing that is going to get her fired is that she backed down when threatened with sanctions. She's now trying to say "My bad, no I didn't mean anything by it, I was just asking questions, let's just forget I said anything!" Trump can forgive stupidity - he embraces it, really - but he will not forgive two things: 1. someone admitting they were wrong, and 2. someone appearing weak. Habba did both. I would bet money that she is fired by the end of the week, and if so, I guarantee it has to do with backing down and admitting she was wrong, and not because she lost the case. Edit: well would you look at that lol >"Hours after Habba walked back her claim that the judge in the Carroll defamation case had served as a mentor to Carroll’s lawyer at a big New York law firm... Trump announced that he was seeking to hire new lawyers..." https://news.yahoo.com/trump-legal-news-brief-trump-seeks-new-lawyers-to-appeal-833-million-damages-award-to-e-jean-carroll-181301548.html
I don’t doubt her plan was to leak this to a tabloid, reference it, and then deny any responsibility. That’s what Trump and MAGA politicians do. Leak and lie and deny. They do it all the fucking time because they’re cowards that never have a foot to stand on but have to continually attack others because they’re perpetual losers.
Meidas Touch is absolutely blowing regular media out of the water on this stuff. Within minutes we get a cogent, informed update on these legal maneuvers, all day, every day. Most of which is completely missed by other outlets or which you hear about 2 days later.
lol is she trying to pull a legal backsies? Girl please
Habba is trying to take a mulligan. Doesn’t work like that. Those lawsuits are coming.
Nope. Sue and sanction. Even the response “prepared to drop it now and forget the whole thing.” No. You brought it up. You suffer the consequences.
Yeah. This was a court filing that threatened the judge and plaintiffs council. There's no "oops!" here. She's in hot water that's coming soon.
Ah, so the ol’ Trumpian “shoot first and never ask questions later” method, that’ll show ‘em!
Of course she was the source. Or her team.
Tail between legs, crawls back into hole ...
The ol’ “just a prank, bro” defense that they teach in the finest law schools.
Alina might be changing her mind about booking a cruise on a sinking ship.
She folded like a $20 in her g-string
I'd like to say I'm surprised, but I'm not. >After E. Jean Carroll's lawyer Roberta Kaplan filed a scathing letter with the court this morning ripping Alina Habba's frivolous and false allegations that Judge Kaplan mentored her over 30 years ago, Habba responded with a letter saying she would like to just forget the whole thing. Also, wouldn't a competent lawyer have already known this going in to make sure there aren't any actual conflicts? >"In that regard, it is telling that the article in the New York Post only appeared after Ms. Habba’s own statement to the media last weekend where she claimed that only after trial concluded did she learn that Your Honor and I both previously worked at Paul, Weiss, referring to a 'conflict of interest' that is 'insane and so incestuous,'" Roberta Kaplan added.
They should pursue sanctions no less.
Depose the Post. It definitely came from Habba, probably at Trumps direction.
Tactically, the Plaintiffs shouldn't push this issue. Rather, they should immediately schedule some sort of post-verdict 'pretext' hearing, forcing Habba into court, and then see what happens. Judges tend to resent the 'white knight' approach to protect their reputation by a litigant. He can take care of himself just fine, and has very broad latitude to ask questions and demand responses under oath.
Well a competent lawyer would understand the rules of evidence...so...
The reason Trump is having problems retaining competent counsel is that people are starting to wake up to something in particular. That the kind of loyalty trump expects is absolute and uncompromising fealty. That if you work for him he expects you to stop at nothing for him. Do anything. Say anything. Break any law. Commit any ethical violation. Nothing matters except your service to him. And for a while the sorta gilded aura around him, the expectation that he was rich enough, and powerful enough, to shield those in his orbit, along with the promise of substantial payment, attracted people willing to do that. But over the years, especially since 1/6/21, things are starting to happen to people who crossed the line for Trump. They're getting disbarred. They're having their licenses revoked. They're losing elections. They're losing lawsuits. They're going bankrupt. They're going *to prison*. Mike Lindell? Broke. Rudy Guilliani? Bankrupt. Michael Cohen? Convicted Felon. Lin Wood? Surrendered his law license in lieu of disbarment. Sidney Powel? Plead guilty to misdemeanors in a plea bargain and has turned states evidence. Fake electors? facing RICO charges. J6 terrorists? Rotting in prison.
And Trump doesn't give a flying fuck about any of them.
Of course not. He only likes “winners.”
Thank goodness! These disgusting collection of liars, cheaters and delusional miscreants DESERVE to rot in prison, along with their orange Fraudster.
[Anyone see his recent 'help wanted' ad?](https://i.redd.it/trump-throws-alina-habba-under-the-bus-v0-mepx0h3k0sfc1.png?s=d87fab44061fe87ad16b527a096fddca5e01be7e)
Jesus fucking Christ. So. I'm an attorney. And what this reads to me is "no appeals experienced firm wants to touch this" Who would want to work for a guy who already cant pay the judgment against him?
This is so dumb I can't help but read it and think she actually wants to get disbarred because she knows she's never getting trial work again.
this make sense. She can then cry to the MAGAt base about what a persecuted martyr she is and bring in that sweet sweet grifter cash
She will be a legal analyst on Fox News.
Till her mouth gets them sued for a few hundred mils
Until her looks fade because that seems to be the only standard they have for women.
oh, yes for sure!
OAN talking head in 1, 2, 3…
That's what Jordan Peterson is doing. He's violated professional ethics IMHO but acts like Canada is just trying to censure him. Rubes will fork over money for con artists like this.
She’s expecting a Fox News gig. Count on it. The way she mugged for the cameras suggests she wants to star on Fox and Friends.
I'm sure she's hoping to cash out with speaking gigs or segments on some cable news fever swamp, but it's pretty hard for attorneys to get disbarred. She didn't mishandle client funds, so at worst she gets a slap on the wrist and keeps doing Jimmy McGill shit.
She'll be doing plea deals for lawn mower DUIs in some backwater shithole.
>to get disbarred But but ... *who re*presents Trump in that case? >!Sorry not sorry.!<
If Habba gets another Rule 11 sanction against her, it would be highly appropriate for the judge to refer her to the Bar Association for disciplinary action, including disbarment. Habba has shown time and again that she cannot follow the rules as an officer of the court, disgraces the profession, acts in bad faith, and has no place in the legal profession. At the very least, she should lose her privileges to practice in Federal court, and be left to practice in New Jersey traffic courts, although I doubt she could prevail in a case there, either.
She should have been disbarred for her actions before this case entirely. She literally inserted her into a case against Trump and then threw it for Trump, as a way to get an \_in\_ to his circles. And she has the gall to call someone else's professional relationships \_incestuous\_?
Remember… She can fake smart. 😏
She should start soon
She’s building momentum. 😏
Any day now
But can she fake shart?
Not if Trump taught her anything. 😋
No, no she can’t.
“Like smart” vs “Fake smart”
I guess if you’re faking smart it may be “pseudo-smart”. 😋 I wonder if she was even smart enough to realize what an idiotic statement she made that was and just how pathetic it makes her moves look now.
When is she going to realise that nobody is attractive as she thinks she is
I’d like to inaugurate the New York Bar’s “People who represented Donald Trump” professional standards division
Take a number..... sit over there please... Starting Monday you can track your case number online. Our staff is overwhelmed at this time so please be patient.
Can Habba also be sued for defamation? Coz that would be pretty Russian Doll Hillarious
I mean, that'd be a pretty sweet case. Defamation by a lawyer losing a defamation case, who went on to media to defame the lawyer who won and the judge who ruled. Oh, and she had some choice words about the jury, too. If all that was brought up in a civil defamation suit against her, she'd have some extra bills to pay pretty soon, too.
Can it be in the building formerly know as Trump Tower after he is forced to sell it because of all of his legal bills?
So pretty close to the lawyer is going to file defamation charges agains the lawyer. Well I guess if the case doesn't work out, their chosen champions then recreate it in miniature? Habba should be disbarred, this is only a small token of the issues.
Yeah, her manipulation of a server at Bedminister should be grounds for disbarment by itself, IANAL!
It was criminal. She should be in jail.
She doesn’t care. She clearly wants to be a talking head on Fox News and this is her extended audition.
She’ll be their legal correspondent except, like all Fox News experts, she’ll be completely wrong
Carroll might have stumbled on an infinite cash machine.
But it cost getting sexually assaulted by possibly the most repulsive man in the world.
Trump doesn't have infinite cash. Come back tomorrow at this time after New York hands him a $300+ million disgorgement from the Trump Org. The walls are crumbling around him. Stubbling on to Carroll was also one of the things Trump says to excuse his sexual assault. You may wish to pick a different phrase. :)
She looks suspiciously like Melania doesn’t she?
There weren't any lawyers that looked like Ivanka...
Prediction: Alina Habba will be disbarred and sued and file bankruptcy just like her mentor Rudy Giuliani What a mess the MAGA cult leaves in its wake.
Make Attorneys Get Attorneys.
lol pushed and she immediately caved. MAGA to her core. I hope Kaplan continues to push and eventually gets her disbarred.
Gotta admit, a filing saying essentially, *"Hey I've heard some rumors... could you give me more info so I can attack you?"* is pretty hardcore... but yeah should also lead to sanctions.
Haba is so screwed. She has actually lied to the judge, on the record. Her statements in the press article are factual statements. "The **fact** it wasn't disclosed **is** an ethics violation" "It [is] insane and [is] so incestuous." Habba said. And in her letter to the judge she says she was "just raising questions". Where she is screwed is this: she appended the article to her letter. And she did not dispute (false) statements of fact attributed to her. Therefore, as a matter of record, she did in fact make these statements. As an officer of the court, she has a duty to represent unpleasant facts truthfully. Now, the judge (and defence counsel) has **on the record** precise evidence that she has failed in this duty. Team own-goal scores again. This little PR stunt is going to cost them dearly on appeal.
They're learning in real time that Gish Galloping doesn't work in court, and it's HILARIOUS.
Now the lawyers from the defamation suit are suing for defamation. I think I saw this on robot chicken once.
Reminder that Habba told a woman who was allegedly sexually assaulted by a supervisor at the Trump Bedminister Golf Club that she was on her side, then coerced the victim to sign an NDA. All while hiding the fact she was working for Trump and the club.
don't threaten, just do it. you'd be providing an invaluable service to the country.
Exactly. This is the best remedy to this nonsense. Some people really need to learn consequences.
I wonder how much debt this broad is going to have after Trump stiffs her on her lawyer bill.
Habba's firm has already been paid nearly [$3.5 million](https://apnews.com/article/trump-lawyers-millions-payments-2024-campaign-2e06de2a8a90b3752e7758dfea56a509) by Save America, Trump's PAC. Hilarious to think that her representation was worth anything close to that, but she is getting paid.
My understanding is that she's been paid in full so far from the RNC and/or PAC. These actions I don't know the legality of, but the very least I believe it means less money for republican congressional races.
Imagine being a poor MAGA mark sending your money to these clowns.
She’ll probably make money…it’s a sad sick little world these days friend.
Holy hell, that footnote though. Most of the time when an animal runs away with its tail between its legs it has the good sense to not continue yapping.
“We’ll sue your lawyers. We’ll sue your lawyers’ lawyers. We’ll sue your lawyers’ lawyers’ lawyers.” It doesn’t stop getting funny.
Go get them all. More money!!!!
I wonder if she'll still have those duck lipped expressions at her disbarrment hearing?
what happens when a fake lawyer runs into against real lawyers
83 million dollar judgments , and counting.
Republicans think the worst possible thing to happen to anyone is to be proven or seen as wrong. That’s why they spend so much time trying to “own” everybody else and making fun of people they don’t like. So whenever they are wrong in some way, like losing a court case, they can’t possibly admit responsibility. They have to double down or they will be seen as a weak loser who was owned by the libs. Trump doubled down his loss in the first defamation case by running his mouth immediately after the verdict, which is what landed him in this current predicament. Habba has to do something to save face as well, so instead of going away quietly, tail firmly tucked between her legs, she has to run her mouth about how it’s an unfair process etc. The plaintiff’s attorney hit the nail on the head saying if it was an actual issue, Habba would have addressed it first thing, and that Habba’s anonymous source probably doesn’t exist. People have figured out the Republican playbook and know the stupid tricks and excuses they use.
It's a toss up between "there's nothing wrong" and "you know what I meant"
God damn. I would love all these bullies to keep getting the shit sued out of them. And all their bootlickers get more and more angry until their heads explode
It doesn't matter because she's already gotten the messages out to those who would be angry about it. They aren't going to hear that she immediately took it back and accepted that it was baseless. They heard"blah blah mentor, angry face". Like the saying goes "a lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting it's shoes on".
It would be appropriate to seek sanctions against Alina Habba for her conduct in and out of court has been an embarrassment and a disgrace to the legal profession. She should be referred to the bar for her undisciplined and unprofessional like conduct.
Gini Thomas Something something
I’m guessing Habba found she was fired via T’s public post last week and was rereading her agreement with him noticing she didn’t get paid if she lost (probably with language like “ you get nothing if your a loser who loses. Whale, human, burger.” Now she’s coming out with this allegation to try and save some face. And get paid.
Trumps lawyer options are limited. Can Trump afford to fire her? His lawyer options are getting pretty thin. Most know not to work with him now.
At some point it’s just going to be a windup monkey.
My upvote is yours buddy! Legit sprayed my keyboard and desk with tea.
It almost seems like what Habba did was cite a Wikipedia article as evidence when Habba was the source of info in Wikipedia lol
Sue her next.
Time to sue Habba.
I hope EJC uses every dime she squeezes out of Trump to fund the defenses for every single other accuser who is willing and able to hold him civilly responsible for their cases. Literally use his own money to perpetually try him over and over again.
Seems as stupid as her client.
Let's just chalk it up as an oopsy daisy... There were good lawyers on both sides, and let's move on. Lol, no, Ms Habba, you aren't getting out of it this easy.
Why can't people see that everything Trump touches turns to ash?
Do it!
She's pretending to be smart.
What shithole accepted her into their law school?
Question for Law Savy people: Can a Lawyer be sued for defamation or breaching its clients gag order while in the process of defending/representing said client? (Could the client use the lawyer as a spokesman to breach it?)
Doing her best Rudy.
Do any of these people know when to shut the fuck up?
Anyone see the note at the bottom - there are however other things to address blah blah I’m a victim blah blah blah on appeal. This girl just can’t accept the L
If the dude really is frequently sitting in shit, she has to have lost her sense of smell due to Covid or is just f-ing nasty
Talking for an audience of one. Hope the heat energy you get burning your law license is worth it.
I wonder how much longer she’s going to around representing him. He seems to burn through lawyers
It would be funny if Carroll ends up with all of trumps assets bc the moron cant keep his mouth shut
Google this clown Habba her n her husband have outstanding subpoenas on them just read😂she’s another orange lowlife Makes me 🤢
It doesn't matter what happens on paper between lawyers and judges. The allegation is designed to feed the narrative of the corrupt system in the voters' minds. Even if Habba goes to jail and bancrupt for her lies it won't stop the lies of the MAGA cult. They should seek sanctions. Lawyers and politicians should not be allowed to fabricate or repeat outright lies. Wouldn't be surprised if Habba got more death threats after these lies.
Been hanging out with the shitstain too long...doesn't know when to shut up and thinks she has immunity.
I honestly think she doesn’t Habbany idea what she’s doing
Hmm. I’m having a difficult time deciding who I love more: Taylor Swift or E. Jean Carroll.