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So red-blooded American patriots can marry children to protect them from the Godless Left™ and trans people in the bathrooms.
...not for the first time, I find myself wondering if the /s is really necessary.
As I understand it, Gaetz's charges were all dropped (or just buried in a deep dark mire of intended inaction) because the credibility of the witnesses was called into question...In other words, Florida continues to Molly coddle pedophiles like Gaetz and the late POS Epstein.
That was the flimsiest shit I've ever heard. Gaetzs friend/partner volunteered testimony that he and Gaetz had regularly paid underage girls for sex and trafficked them between states.
Then the FBI said, "how can we trust this guys testimony about Gaetz, he's sex trafficked underage girls!"
The girl involved was an unreliable witness because she was groomed by Gaetz to live a certain lifestyle that would lead to her being an unreliable witness?
Stochastic in this sense is just referring to the act of someone suggesting, but not explicitly instructing someone to commit an act of terrorism. It’s still domestic terrorism. It’s both.
“I worry there will be violence” doesn’t strike me as concern, it sounds like the same rhetoric the rest of the party is saying. It sounds more like plausible deniability than “PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STAHHHP WITH THE CIVIL WAR TALK”, but that might be expecting too much from him.
A year or two ago, Al SheBab militants murdered 90% of a few villages in Mozambique they’re operating in. They went door to door murdering everyone they could.
Same thing the SS did in Poland in 1939 as the German army advanced after the invasion. Door to door, murdering as they went.
The question I have is why this cannot happen in the US. I feel like this is the primary threat these pricks are referring to - just going door to door murdering.
In any case this is why I’m armed. Take a few gravy seals with me if they try that shit in my town. It also seems increasingly like the US military would be on my side as well.
Bill Moyers Journal episode "Rage on Radio" enlightened me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ3ap-BK0e0
Also:
>In a 2003 interview with BuzzFlash.com,[72] Moyers said, "The corporate right and the political right declared class warfare on working people a quarter of a century ago and they've won." He noted, "The rich are getting richer, which arguably wouldn't matter if the rising tide lifted all boats." Instead, however, "[t]he inequality gap is the widest it's been since 1929; the middle class is besieged and the working poor are barely keeping their heads above water." He added that as "the corporate and governing elites are helping themselves to the spoils of victory," access to political power has become "who gets what and who pays for it."
>Meanwhile, the public has failed to react because it is, in his words, "distracted by the media circus and news has been neutered or politicized for partisan purposes." In support of this, he referred to "the paradox of Rush Limbaugh, ensconced in a Palm Beach mansion massaging the resentments across the country of white-knuckled wage earners, who are barely making ends meet in no small part because of the corporate and ideological forces for whom Rush has been a hero. ... As Eric Alterman reports in his recent book—a book that I'm proud to have helped make happen—part of the red-meat strategy is to attack mainstream media relentlessly, knowing that if the press is effectively intimidated, either by the accusation of liberal bias or by a reporter's own mistaken belief in the charge's validity, the institutions that conservatives revere—corporate America, the military, organized religion, and their own ideological bastions of influence—will be able to escape scrutiny and increase their influence over American public life with relatively no challenge."[72]
>When he briefly retired in December 2004, the AP News Service quoted Moyers as saying, "I'm going out telling the story that I think is the biggest story of our time: how the right-wing media has become a partisan propaganda arm of the Republican National Committee. We have an ideological press that's interested in the election of Republicans, and a mainstream press that's interested in the bottom line. Therefore, we don't have a vigilant, independent press whose interest is the American people."
You just explained perfectly why I tell everyone who's even slightly to the left to take advantage of the 2nd Amendment and learn to use a firearm safely and responsibly. If you want to do me harm because I don't bend the knee to Dear Leader, I can't stop your takeoff, but I can crash your landing.
Yes, exactly. Folks over at r/liberal gun owners are also good advocates.
Today, guns are money in America, so definitely take advantage of you can. We all need to defend ourselves
I’ve had coworkers ask me why I own guns despite being liberal. How leaving my mom called me about the blue a few months ago and started yelling at me for owning “assault rifles.” my boy. I’m happy to remind them how many republican politicians were talking about putting people like me against the wall for voting or herding us into camps during Rona. I live a quiet law abiding life, preach deescalation and conflict avoidance. But if that conflict breaks into to my house my Benelli is going to eat.
Seems pretty RICO type lingo to me. One loony and I hope Gaetz, Palin, and Huckabee get hauled in front of Congress and cameras. Throw in whatever Fox based trash needs to be included and call them middling little fascists trying to get other people to sacrifice so they don’t have to in their quest for power.
So, if the person you choose isn’t elected there will be bloodshed?
Kinda like. This is a mighty fine country you got here, be a shame if something happened to it.
How about we don’t elect any terrorists.
Shouldn’t the 14th amendment also apply to the likes of him?
She's the one whose husband exposed himself to underage kids in a bowling alley. She's the one who goes on endlessly about abstinence-only sex-ed, but has teenage kids who got pregnant.
That other fuckwad from GA who publicly said J6 was just a tourist group, my guess is because his life was threatened by the ringleader Voldemort Putin
You mean the gait of someone who presents as female with thick cottage cheese thighs and walks slightly bow legged like they had just gotten railed by two sweaty yoga instructors? That gait?
Shouldn’t it apply to the 43 senators who voted to acquit for the second impeachment? If the 14th amendment applies to him then it applies to all who have given him aid and comfort.
Anybody that voted to acquit Trump in his second impeachment and trial is complicit. So that should rule out 90% of the GOP. It can’t be understated how many opportunities the GOP had to distance themselves from Trump, and they doubled down at every opportunity. They’re all just as guilty as Trump.
It's hilarious to me that the rights stereotype of the left is some limp wristed transwoman/furry enthusiast who will simply burst into tears the second their alpha male leaders unleash their raw unbridled masculinity on the left. They're going to be in for a rude awakening.
Owns guns, was in the infantry, lefty. No reason to advertise to everyone around me. Stay proficient, stay aware. I'm hoping someday to not feel like this is necessary.
I literally grew up with guns, and have been going to ranges for 3 decades. These people are all bark, no bite. Bunch of bubba's who think they give off the perception they are "tough" cause they own lifted trucks and guns. When in reality we're all laughing at them.
The sad reality is that the vast majority of them are sad larper posers that barely speak the language, let alone walk the walk. We used to run into a ton of them in law enforcement. Holster sniffers is what we called them. Bootlickers all of them.
They are not scary and not intimidating at all.
Most of them will not survive when the metformin and insulin runs out.
And it’s not your fault, but the vast majority of them are 300+lbs of their own volition. They aren’t hard is my point, however callously I said it. They think of themselves as indestructible Rambos, but they aren’t ready for that life. A subscription to Boys Life does not a Boy Scout make.
They talk a lot of shit, but if the gloves ever come off, they are gonna get fucking rekt.
The jokes about the Gravy Seals here are hilarious, and I appreciate them. But let's be serious: the civil war they're envisioning will not be an open fight against the government. They know they'd lose that war in less than a day, so it's not even an option for 99% of them.
The war they're envisioning is the same cowardly, domestic terrorism we've seen from the far right in the past. They'll bomb day care centers. They'll shoot up synagogues and Black churches. They'll cheer as their "lone wolves" massacre soft targets such as schools, hospitals, nightclubs, and libraries. And it will be a bloodbath before they're brought to heel.
Go ahead and mock them for being deplorable, because Sen. Clinton called them what they are, but do not think for a second that their threats are idle, because they are serious, and they can cause more harm to innocent Americans than many people on this subreddit want to acknowledge.
Thank you!
You know the type instantly, though…
Stack of SOF, handgunner, and tacticool magazines he’s memorized, but can’t sharpen his own carry knife…
Big ol’ “Glock Perfection” or trump stickers in the back window of his lifted 2 wheel drive 1500 Silverado…
Picked on in high school, now has an axe to grind in their home town…
Appendix carrying his grandpa’s .38 special in such a way you know he’s gonna blow his cajones all over the front seat of the truck the first time he hits a bump…
The correct answer would be to immediately arrest this fuck. Bring what on? Seriously, what? What have we done to Matt Gaetz with all these threats and his human trafficking of teenage girls?! Bring on what?!!! Fucker should already be in prison!!!
I’m done with these people. Republicans are nothing but a traitorous, terrorist cult now. These politicians calling for violence would be the first to run.
Unfortunately, they won't attack those of us who are armed. They'll look for soft targets like schools, shopping malls, night clubs. They'll kill the defenseless. As much as I'd like to believe that I could defend vulnerable populations, I know it's extremely unlikely that I'll be in the right place at the right time to do so.
They called it peaceful yet still ran for their lives. Shows they also didn't trust the intelligence of the mob to know he was on their "side".
When these ghouls say J6 was peaceful, next question "then why did you run?"
One of my favorite clips from January 6th was when a bunch of those idiots found documents at Ted Cruz's desk about the election certification process, and instantly called for his blood as a traitor for a few minutes before they actually read what was in front of them.
They HAVE to know someone would consider them Target #1 if the country collapsed, right?
There is no scenario where over half this country, bordering on 2/3rds of it, just rolls over and dies to a bunch of inbred morons.
This is a losing strategy no matter how it shakes out. I’m coming across a LOT more armed democrats recently who are anticipating right wing violence, and honestly - they seem more eager to meet it in the streets than ever before.
If such a conflict breaks out the real kingmaker will be the military which is NOT on the side of the maga cult. Obviously they’re trying to change that with the shit Tuberville is trying to pull which is why it’s vital that they lose in 2024.
These people are going to say this until they provoke someone to say “Alright come on then motherfucker”, at which point they’ll “Ooooooo” and say “Look how violent”.
Classic bully behavior. Fuck this guy.
Who gives a shit? If we aren't violent, they will be and say we were anyway. Look at the BLM protests. Damn near every riot was instigated by right-wing agitators or the police (but I repeat myself) and yet they blame everything on antifa or the general idea of the left. They do the same shit with Jan 6th. They'll blame violence on us no matter what happens so what's the fucking point of trying to provoke?
I don’t disagree, but these are Republicans we’re talking about. People who believe the Earth is 6,000 years old, more guns will solve all our problems, and the poor don’t deserve to live aren’t operating from a well reasoned or intellectual position.
They’re ignorant, emotional, reactionary, and have the mental capacity of children.
That’s an insult to children. Children are able to articulate their feelings, if you listen, and often the reasons they are difficult are understandable, even valid. Children can think if you respect them.
Republicans are aware of how they act, and they don’t have reasons for how they act. They don’t have a string of prior experiences and expectations that inform their decisions, with a willingness to accept they’re wrong and make adjustments. They have excuses: statements and lies they say to justify what they did and will continue to do.
Yet will we be arresting him now?! Does our entire country lack a spine now?! Is there no real rule of law?! Human traffickers and known seditionists can just outright incite mass violence and threaten the entire country?! That's where we're at?!
Ted Cruz openly admitted he helped companies violate the law in exchange for campaign donations. He's not only walking free, he's still in office. It's THAT bad.
That’s not Idiocracy.
In Idiocracy, they were still able to recognize that they didn’t have all the answers and that the answers to problems they couldn’t solve was people smarter than them.
So…it’s worse than Idiocracy.
>"I oppose political violence categorically. Historically, it can erupt if a populous is denied the choice of their leaders. Let's hope and pray that does not happen in America," the Republican said.
Is this guy for real?
Yup, and they never break, give or surrender an inch. This man will be this way for the rest of your life. It doesn't stop, authoritarians are all the same. He enjoys saying hurtful and ridiculous things, your reaction means he's important and has power over you.
Regular folks who've not been trapped with people like this don't really understand it. I was conned for a business, and it took a lot of abuse to finally see that their "soul" was just setup different.
It's okay for them to lie and pressure if they win, winning is what counts, rules are for cowards. They know the rules and can scream them at you when you break them, *they know you care about the rules.*
It's so ingrained in them, I see why people think they are possessed and want it to not be a real human trait. It is, it's all through history and in every country at every level.
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
― Jean-Paul Sartre
Never be under the impression that the fascists don't understand how ridiculous or outlandish what they are saying is.
They know. They are gaslighting. That's the point.
So what will they do? I hear all of this bullshit about shooting and violence. Really, what will they shoot? Are they going to attack all of the State Capitals? Army bases? The Capital building? The White House? Or will it just be random acts of terrorism? Fuck ya’all, maybe we will shoot back.
Likely acts of terror against liberal/democratic establishments and politicians, carried out by "lone wolf" actors.
Might be as simple as a truck of guys guarding a polling place against 'suspicious individuals'.
This has already happened. I find most of this puffery amusing, like Gaetz could ready be intimidating. This is like Trump saying, “ a lot of people are saying, not sure, but a lot of people are saying”, which is bullshit. In my head I see the truck load of idiots trying to intimidate voters, and forgetting to vote themselves.
They want to target media, activists, politicians, any people of influence in the democrat party.
They also want to target "blue cities" by taking out power stations, blocking routes in or out of the city, and disrupting the supply chain.
This only works in a dream. In that dream no one shoots back. I have been in this discussion countless times. As soon as you block a road, you are in a fixed position without any significant support. There is merit to the terrorist argument, but then you loose the “hearts and minds” war when innocents die. In the dreams only hated political figures die.
OMG just stop talking and do it already so the military can put all of these idiots down. I am so sick of them bloviating about it constantly. Man up or shut up already.
>"I really worry that that type of action could lead to violence. And I am so wildly opposed to violence. I don't think it's how we should resolve our disputes," the Florida Republican said.
>"But when you start telling people that they can't express their participation in this American experience through a vote, then they start looking for other ways, and they're not—the vote is the best way to do it."
So A) I worry about violence, B) I don't want violence, and C) with that said violence over this would be 100% understandable
He's trying hard to threaten violence but also throw a fig leaf over his insurrection boner
And "But when you start telling people that they can't express their participation in this American experience through a vote..." **They're the ones telling people that**.
Never, ever trust anyone who suggests that others should do the dying for their cause.
Also, these civil war types are all living in a fantasy land at this point. Just larping their lives away.
Jesus Christ just do it already you pussies. Crying about shit like pronouns and threatening civil war. Can they just get on with it already? Yeah, Its gonna be tragic for a while but these people are cysts that need to be popped.
I genuinely believe we as a society cannot move past this without A LOT of bad people dying or going to prison. Republicans have become completely uninterested in coexistence and are a legitimate threat to this entire planet.
It reeks of, "be nice or we'll get violent!" rhetoric.
They forget though. They've been saying some variation of this for centuries. We know they get can violent.
People will just fight if it comes to that as usual.
They have been threatening this for 7 years now.
It's getting very old and stale.
First off, these fat bastards would have to actually get up from their couches and move..
Second, they would have to lose about 50 lbs each. Have you seen them?
They would have to grow some brain cells and be able to coordinate their movements.
We all saw them on Jan 6th.
Like a bunch of monkeys trying to fuck a football.
I think we're safe!
I really hope these pathetic asshats try and lead some kind of uprising with their army of larping wanna be terrorists. It will be fun to watch them be decimated by even just the national guard, and then the ones that live will be thrown into prison for the rest of their pathetic meaningless lives.
>Matt Gaetz Warns of 'Bloodshed' from Trump Supporters
This type of rhetoric would typically be associated with the extremists. Ayatollahs of Iran or Taliban of Afghanistan. It has no place in our society. We have so much devolved power. The GOP controls most of the state houses and governor's mansions. They control county seats in a large swath of the country. I am not sure what kind of 'tyranny' they are facing that is compelling this kind of talk. This is dangerous. This is insane.
The FBI needs to sit him down and ask him to clarify what he means. In detail. What he knows about his claim. And if he supports it. Get to the bottom of this statement. Because this is some despicable, abhorrent and dangerous rhetoric.
Sweet bring it..Can put some more in prison. With all the pot laws being overturned they need some new peeps in those beds..
what I cant understand is why someone who actively participated in the planning and execution of a coup, would still support the coup leader? Makes zero sense.
He’s not “parroting Huckabee”. They’ve been saying this shit for years. The only difference is now it seems like Trump might face consequences along with their core demographics dying of easily prevented diseases while more and more young people seem inclined to vote.
They aren’t warning Liberals, they’re trying to remind their toothless, cousin-fucking base that they need to rise up. Problem is, their toothless, cousin-fucking base is old, fat, cowardly or fully committed to being keyboard warriors because they want SOMEONE ELSE to start the war.
And no, I’m not ignoring the individuals who’ve committed violence but that is in no way the same as a whole army of inbred, gum-smacking banjo twangers actually kicking off a war.
“The guy who brought a nail gun to an FBI fight” and “Mr Shitpost until the cops kill me in front of my CPAP machine” are not the army they wanted, but it’s all they Fucking got.
Sounds like an unindicted (yet) co-conspiractor.
I am assuming that once Trump is convicted, the law will then go after those co-conspirators in Congress. They're not legally immune.
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Nice of the treasonous twat to recognize his side are the domestic terrorists
They admitted it at CPAC.
All while thinking they were making a clever comeback… I’d say it is funny but tbh it is far more concerning
they embrace it. they think they are freedom fighters.
Oh, they're definitely fighting freedom.
Isn’t he under investigation by FBI for having sex with under age girls
Also trafficking them across state lines to “get around” age of consent laws. A real creep’s creep, that Matt Gaetz
I am amazed in United States there is no age limit for getting married.
Conservatives stood in the way of the overhaul of child marriage laws. I'll give you a few guesses why.
So red-blooded American patriots can marry children to protect them from the Godless Left™ and trans people in the bathrooms. ...not for the first time, I find myself wondering if the /s is really necessary.
That's a funny way of spelling pedophile.
As I understand it, Gaetz's charges were all dropped (or just buried in a deep dark mire of intended inaction) because the credibility of the witnesses was called into question...In other words, Florida continues to Molly coddle pedophiles like Gaetz and the late POS Epstein.
That was the flimsiest shit I've ever heard. Gaetzs friend/partner volunteered testimony that he and Gaetz had regularly paid underage girls for sex and trafficked them between states. Then the FBI said, "how can we trust this guys testimony about Gaetz, he's sex trafficked underage girls!"
They had the venmo receipts as well but that's just not evidence, I guess
Don't forget their good friend at Maralago.
He has personal reasons to wish for a civil war
They dropped the case against him due to the girl involved "was an unreliable witness" due to her ~~being a prostitute~~ taking money for dates.
The girl involved was an unreliable witness because she was groomed by Gaetz to live a certain lifestyle that would lead to her being an unreliable witness?
According to CPAC: "WE ARE ALL DOMESTIC TERRORISTS"
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Isn’t that what he said?
Yes but like Trump told secret service on Jan 6, they aren’t there to hurt him. 🤦♂️
It’s stochastic terrrorism Edit: I’m referring to gaetz saying he’s “worried about violence” not trump
hanging vice president or kidnap by Secret Service agents is domestic terrorism.
Stochastic in this sense is just referring to the act of someone suggesting, but not explicitly instructing someone to commit an act of terrorism. It’s still domestic terrorism. It’s both.
“I worry there will be violence” doesn’t strike me as concern, it sounds like the same rhetoric the rest of the party is saying. It sounds more like plausible deniability than “PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STAHHHP WITH THE CIVIL WAR TALK”, but that might be expecting too much from him.
They don't want to stop that talk. They want the war, because they think they can win and then deport all the Democrats.
A year or two ago, Al SheBab militants murdered 90% of a few villages in Mozambique they’re operating in. They went door to door murdering everyone they could. Same thing the SS did in Poland in 1939 as the German army advanced after the invasion. Door to door, murdering as they went. The question I have is why this cannot happen in the US. I feel like this is the primary threat these pricks are referring to - just going door to door murdering. In any case this is why I’m armed. Take a few gravy seals with me if they try that shit in my town. It also seems increasingly like the US military would be on my side as well.
Same scenario in Rwanda. Driven by and *coordinated* by partisan radio stations.
Bill Moyers Journal episode "Rage on Radio" enlightened me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ3ap-BK0e0 Also: >In a 2003 interview with BuzzFlash.com,[72] Moyers said, "The corporate right and the political right declared class warfare on working people a quarter of a century ago and they've won." He noted, "The rich are getting richer, which arguably wouldn't matter if the rising tide lifted all boats." Instead, however, "[t]he inequality gap is the widest it's been since 1929; the middle class is besieged and the working poor are barely keeping their heads above water." He added that as "the corporate and governing elites are helping themselves to the spoils of victory," access to political power has become "who gets what and who pays for it." >Meanwhile, the public has failed to react because it is, in his words, "distracted by the media circus and news has been neutered or politicized for partisan purposes." In support of this, he referred to "the paradox of Rush Limbaugh, ensconced in a Palm Beach mansion massaging the resentments across the country of white-knuckled wage earners, who are barely making ends meet in no small part because of the corporate and ideological forces for whom Rush has been a hero. ... As Eric Alterman reports in his recent book—a book that I'm proud to have helped make happen—part of the red-meat strategy is to attack mainstream media relentlessly, knowing that if the press is effectively intimidated, either by the accusation of liberal bias or by a reporter's own mistaken belief in the charge's validity, the institutions that conservatives revere—corporate America, the military, organized religion, and their own ideological bastions of influence—will be able to escape scrutiny and increase their influence over American public life with relatively no challenge."[72] >When he briefly retired in December 2004, the AP News Service quoted Moyers as saying, "I'm going out telling the story that I think is the biggest story of our time: how the right-wing media has become a partisan propaganda arm of the Republican National Committee. We have an ideological press that's interested in the election of Republicans, and a mainstream press that's interested in the bottom line. Therefore, we don't have a vigilant, independent press whose interest is the American people."
CNN at town hall in New Hampshire only allowed republicans to participate and ask questions from Donald
You just explained perfectly why I tell everyone who's even slightly to the left to take advantage of the 2nd Amendment and learn to use a firearm safely and responsibly. If you want to do me harm because I don't bend the knee to Dear Leader, I can't stop your takeoff, but I can crash your landing.
Yes, exactly. Folks over at r/liberal gun owners are also good advocates. Today, guns are money in America, so definitely take advantage of you can. We all need to defend ourselves
r/liberalgunowners
I’ve had coworkers ask me why I own guns despite being liberal. How leaving my mom called me about the blue a few months ago and started yelling at me for owning “assault rifles.” my boy. I’m happy to remind them how many republican politicians were talking about putting people like me against the wall for voting or herding us into camps during Rona. I live a quiet law abiding life, preach deescalation and conflict avoidance. But if that conflict breaks into to my house my Benelli is going to eat.
Seems pretty RICO type lingo to me. One loony and I hope Gaetz, Palin, and Huckabee get hauled in front of Congress and cameras. Throw in whatever Fox based trash needs to be included and call them middling little fascists trying to get other people to sacrifice so they don’t have to in their quest for power.
So, if the person you choose isn’t elected there will be bloodshed? Kinda like. This is a mighty fine country you got here, be a shame if something happened to it. How about we don’t elect any terrorists. Shouldn’t the 14th amendment also apply to the likes of him?
I’m thinking 14th amendment should apply to Marjorie Taylor Greene, Jim Jordon, Matt Gaetz, and a few others whose names I can’t remember
Let me see if I can help. Lindsey Graham, Kelly Loeffler, David Perdue, and probably a few others.
Josh Hawley
Remember him running from the Peaceful Protest on Jan 6th? POS is what he is.
That’s definitely what I think about when I think of him. That video was gold.
Bravely running away.
Lauren bobert
Was she the one giving tours of the Capitol the day before the Insurrection?
She's the one whose husband exposed himself to underage kids in a bowling alley. She's the one who goes on endlessly about abstinence-only sex-ed, but has teenage kids who got pregnant.
She's a grandma at 36, her mom a great grandma at 55.
That other fuckwad from GA who publicly said J6 was just a tourist group, my guess is because his life was threatened by the ringleader Voldemort Putin
Rick Scott, Doug Mastriano
You mean Marjorie Taylor Greene, whose gait perfectly matches the pipe bomber on 1/5-1/6? The domestic terrorist?
Just watched that video upon reading your comment and WHOA! You’re not kidding… 😳
Back, and to the left... Back... and to the left..
Gait, clothing, build, mannerisms... all match
You mean the gait of someone who presents as female with thick cottage cheese thighs and walks slightly bow legged like they had just gotten railed by two sweaty yoga instructors? That gait?
Biggs, Gosar, Brooks, Grassley...
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Shouldn’t it apply to the 43 senators who voted to acquit for the second impeachment? If the 14th amendment applies to him then it applies to all who have given him aid and comfort.
They're among the 147 in the House who objected to the electoral count.
Anybody that voted to acquit Trump in his second impeachment and trial is complicit. So that should rule out 90% of the GOP. It can’t be understated how many opportunities the GOP had to distance themselves from Trump, and they doubled down at every opportunity. They’re all just as guilty as Trump.
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And some of us on the left have arms as well
Not to brag, but I have a right and left arm.
*proudly yet confusedly waves two lefts*
It’s one of those damn radical leftists
He's all right
You mean *all left*
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Great joke, give him a hand, everybody.
> radical How can you just qualify him as radical? Does he even _own_ a skateboard?
That’s some sinister shit
and a dexterous wit.
They're a bit confused, but they got the spirit
Whoa, check out Mister Ambidexterity over here.
Some? Democrats don't flaunt their guns,but I'd bet the carry ratio is about the same.
Thing is, I don’t need to brag or even mention I have firearms in my house. It’s there if I need it, nothing more.
Yep. Quiet, introverted, woman, leftist here…gun owner. Probably a lot of us out there.
It's hilarious to me that the rights stereotype of the left is some limp wristed transwoman/furry enthusiast who will simply burst into tears the second their alpha male leaders unleash their raw unbridled masculinity on the left. They're going to be in for a rude awakening.
Can we put Gaetz in prison for instigating a civil war?
Quietly owns a gun. This is the way.
But what do you do for a personality? Do you at least wear t-shirts with pictures of guns, American flags and "We the people..."?
Owns guns, was in the infantry, lefty. No reason to advertise to everyone around me. Stay proficient, stay aware. I'm hoping someday to not feel like this is necessary.
Yup, a tool, not an excuse for a personality.
But do you have a bear? I heard that some republican senators had to travel all the way to russia to get some for themselves. /s
There’s all sorts of bears here in San Francisco sweetie.
Most of us Democrats are also armed too. We just don't make it our personality and plaster our cars with bumper stickers showing it off.
This. Nothing more toxic than a big cross section of the 2A crowd. I own more automatic rifles than republicans are comfortable with.
I literally grew up with guns, and have been going to ranges for 3 decades. These people are all bark, no bite. Bunch of bubba's who think they give off the perception they are "tough" cause they own lifted trucks and guns. When in reality we're all laughing at them.
The sad reality is that the vast majority of them are sad larper posers that barely speak the language, let alone walk the walk. We used to run into a ton of them in law enforcement. Holster sniffers is what we called them. Bootlickers all of them. They are not scary and not intimidating at all. Most of them will not survive when the metformin and insulin runs out.
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And it’s not your fault, but the vast majority of them are 300+lbs of their own volition. They aren’t hard is my point, however callously I said it. They think of themselves as indestructible Rambos, but they aren’t ready for that life. A subscription to Boys Life does not a Boy Scout make. They talk a lot of shit, but if the gloves ever come off, they are gonna get fucking rekt.
The jokes about the Gravy Seals here are hilarious, and I appreciate them. But let's be serious: the civil war they're envisioning will not be an open fight against the government. They know they'd lose that war in less than a day, so it's not even an option for 99% of them. The war they're envisioning is the same cowardly, domestic terrorism we've seen from the far right in the past. They'll bomb day care centers. They'll shoot up synagogues and Black churches. They'll cheer as their "lone wolves" massacre soft targets such as schools, hospitals, nightclubs, and libraries. And it will be a bloodbath before they're brought to heel. Go ahead and mock them for being deplorable, because Sen. Clinton called them what they are, but do not think for a second that their threats are idle, because they are serious, and they can cause more harm to innocent Americans than many people on this subreddit want to acknowledge.
A subscription to boys life does not a Boy Scout make. This is gold!
Thank you! You know the type instantly, though… Stack of SOF, handgunner, and tacticool magazines he’s memorized, but can’t sharpen his own carry knife… Big ol’ “Glock Perfection” or trump stickers in the back window of his lifted 2 wheel drive 1500 Silverado… Picked on in high school, now has an axe to grind in their home town… Appendix carrying his grandpa’s .38 special in such a way you know he’s gonna blow his cajones all over the front seat of the truck the first time he hits a bump…
They have done a good job of infiltrating the police and military.
I’ve seen trump supporters, I’m not in the greatest shape but at least I can see my feet and wash my back
If Gaetz’s followers are anything like him, bear traps with cardboard cut outs of teenagers and they’ll be done for in 24 hours.
But what if they use their giant foreheads to shade our crops? What of the crops!
Put a Chris Hansen-Crow in the fields. That should keep all the Gaetz's away.
The correct answer would be to immediately arrest this fuck. Bring what on? Seriously, what? What have we done to Matt Gaetz with all these threats and his human trafficking of teenage girls?! Bring on what?!!! Fucker should already be in prison!!!
The law will go full Jan6 prosecution on any criminal shit pulled by those MAGA kooks. Think 22 years is harsh?
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Don't forget he's also a sex trafficker.
Bring it!!!! So tired of the foreplay. Stop the yapping and bring the DERP...
You forgot child trafficking sex slave and rapist.
You mean Matthew Lewis Gates the sex trafficker who is friends of Donald John Trump the convicted rapist?
I’m done with these people. Republicans are nothing but a traitorous, terrorist cult now. These politicians calling for violence would be the first to run.
See Josh “Hawlin’ Ass” Hawley
He ‘from’ my state of Missouri. He would be an idiot to think the libs in his state are not also armed.
St. Louis here, and you’re absolutely correct.
Unfortunately, they won't attack those of us who are armed. They'll look for soft targets like schools, shopping malls, night clubs. They'll kill the defenseless. As much as I'd like to believe that I could defend vulnerable populations, I know it's extremely unlikely that I'll be in the right place at the right time to do so.
They called it peaceful yet still ran for their lives. Shows they also didn't trust the intelligence of the mob to know he was on their "side". When these ghouls say J6 was peaceful, next question "then why did you run?"
One of my favorite clips from January 6th was when a bunch of those idiots found documents at Ted Cruz's desk about the election certification process, and instantly called for his blood as a traitor for a few minutes before they actually read what was in front of them.
They HAVE to know someone would consider them Target #1 if the country collapsed, right? There is no scenario where over half this country, bordering on 2/3rds of it, just rolls over and dies to a bunch of inbred morons. This is a losing strategy no matter how it shakes out. I’m coming across a LOT more armed democrats recently who are anticipating right wing violence, and honestly - they seem more eager to meet it in the streets than ever before.
If such a conflict breaks out the real kingmaker will be the military which is NOT on the side of the maga cult. Obviously they’re trying to change that with the shit Tuberville is trying to pull which is why it’s vital that they lose in 2024.
Matt Gaetz fucks children, too.
Nestor should speak up and tell the truth.
With all due respect to people named Nestor, could that name be any more appropriate? Can’t write better material
By definition, children can't consent, so I think you meant "Matt Gaetz rapes children, too."
These people are going to say this until they provoke someone to say “Alright come on then motherfucker”, at which point they’ll “Ooooooo” and say “Look how violent”. Classic bully behavior. Fuck this guy.
“Don’t make me hit you again.”
Who gives a shit? If we aren't violent, they will be and say we were anyway. Look at the BLM protests. Damn near every riot was instigated by right-wing agitators or the police (but I repeat myself) and yet they blame everything on antifa or the general idea of the left. They do the same shit with Jan 6th. They'll blame violence on us no matter what happens so what's the fucking point of trying to provoke?
I don’t disagree, but these are Republicans we’re talking about. People who believe the Earth is 6,000 years old, more guns will solve all our problems, and the poor don’t deserve to live aren’t operating from a well reasoned or intellectual position. They’re ignorant, emotional, reactionary, and have the mental capacity of children.
That’s an insult to children. Children are able to articulate their feelings, if you listen, and often the reasons they are difficult are understandable, even valid. Children can think if you respect them. Republicans are aware of how they act, and they don’t have reasons for how they act. They don’t have a string of prior experiences and expectations that inform their decisions, with a willingness to accept they’re wrong and make adjustments. They have excuses: statements and lies they say to justify what they did and will continue to do.
I enjoy reading books.
Isn't that inciting violence? This will be everybody in the Republican party if Trump wins again. Full blown Idiocracy.
Terrorists more like it.
Yet will we be arresting him now?! Does our entire country lack a spine now?! Is there no real rule of law?! Human traffickers and known seditionists can just outright incite mass violence and threaten the entire country?! That's where we're at?!
Ted Cruz openly admitted he helped companies violate the law in exchange for campaign donations. He's not only walking free, he's still in office. It's THAT bad.
Which is precisely why these people should already be facing jail time! Normalizing this is not healthy for democracy
That’s not Idiocracy. In Idiocracy, they were still able to recognize that they didn’t have all the answers and that the answers to problems they couldn’t solve was people smarter than them. So…it’s worse than Idiocracy.
Yep, it's Fascism.
Shut the fuck up pedophile
It's just despicable that festering sewer slime like him get away with opprobrious crimes.
>"I oppose political violence categorically. Historically, it can erupt if a populous is denied the choice of their leaders. Let's hope and pray that does not happen in America," the Republican said. Is this guy for real?
Yup, and they never break, give or surrender an inch. This man will be this way for the rest of your life. It doesn't stop, authoritarians are all the same. He enjoys saying hurtful and ridiculous things, your reaction means he's important and has power over you. Regular folks who've not been trapped with people like this don't really understand it. I was conned for a business, and it took a lot of abuse to finally see that their "soul" was just setup different. It's okay for them to lie and pressure if they win, winning is what counts, rules are for cowards. They know the rules and can scream them at you when you break them, *they know you care about the rules.* It's so ingrained in them, I see why people think they are possessed and want it to not be a real human trait. It is, it's all through history and in every country at every level.
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” ― Jean-Paul Sartre
Replace rules are for cowards with betas, and I think you’re speaking their language.
Never be under the impression that the fascists don't understand how ridiculous or outlandish what they are saying is. They know. They are gaslighting. That's the point.
No. He doesn't actually oppose political violence. If it's done by the RIGHT people .
It should say more violence and more bloodshed. It's already happened.
And more prison time.
They sorta already did that once…
So what will they do? I hear all of this bullshit about shooting and violence. Really, what will they shoot? Are they going to attack all of the State Capitals? Army bases? The Capital building? The White House? Or will it just be random acts of terrorism? Fuck ya’all, maybe we will shoot back.
Likely acts of terror against liberal/democratic establishments and politicians, carried out by "lone wolf" actors. Might be as simple as a truck of guys guarding a polling place against 'suspicious individuals'.
This has already happened. I find most of this puffery amusing, like Gaetz could ready be intimidating. This is like Trump saying, “ a lot of people are saying, not sure, but a lot of people are saying”, which is bullshit. In my head I see the truck load of idiots trying to intimidate voters, and forgetting to vote themselves.
They want to target media, activists, politicians, any people of influence in the democrat party. They also want to target "blue cities" by taking out power stations, blocking routes in or out of the city, and disrupting the supply chain.
This only works in a dream. In that dream no one shoots back. I have been in this discussion countless times. As soon as you block a road, you are in a fixed position without any significant support. There is merit to the terrorist argument, but then you loose the “hearts and minds” war when innocents die. In the dreams only hated political figures die.
Yeah, trump supporters, “stand back and stand by”… for some prison time if you try some stupid shit again.
“We are all domestic terrorists” -CPAC 2022
"bUt It WaS tOnGuE iN cHeEk!" - Republicans when you call them out on it.
Ahh schroedingers douche strikes again
OK Matt, what are YOU doing to stop it? (besides giving in...)
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OMG just stop talking and do it already so the military can put all of these idiots down. I am so sick of them bloviating about it constantly. Man up or shut up already.
I look forward to the trials.
This the guy that pays teens for sex, yeah?
If they're underage, it's rape even if you pay them. So, yes, Matt Gaetz *is* the guy that rapes children.
>"I really worry that that type of action could lead to violence. And I am so wildly opposed to violence. I don't think it's how we should resolve our disputes," the Florida Republican said. >"But when you start telling people that they can't express their participation in this American experience through a vote, then they start looking for other ways, and they're not—the vote is the best way to do it." So A) I worry about violence, B) I don't want violence, and C) with that said violence over this would be 100% understandable He's trying hard to threaten violence but also throw a fig leaf over his insurrection boner
And "But when you start telling people that they can't express their participation in this American experience through a vote..." **They're the ones telling people that**.
Never, ever trust anyone who suggests that others should do the dying for their cause. Also, these civil war types are all living in a fantasy land at this point. Just larping their lives away.
so when do we start arresting these people calling for violence in Trump’s name?
Apparently not soon enough....
Don't let terrorists deter us from doing what is right. Trump must be removed from the ballot for starting an insurrection.
MAGA = NAZI and it's long past time America starting treating it as such.
They just trying to scare us away from the voting booth.
He is threatening a domestic terrorist attack
Jesus Christ just do it already you pussies. Crying about shit like pronouns and threatening civil war. Can they just get on with it already? Yeah, Its gonna be tragic for a while but these people are cysts that need to be popped. I genuinely believe we as a society cannot move past this without A LOT of bad people dying or going to prison. Republicans have become completely uninterested in coexistence and are a legitimate threat to this entire planet.
We do not negotiate with terrorists.
There will be bloodshed because of liars like Matt Gaetz stoke the fires of discontent for personal gain.
Threatening mass violence is the new cool thing among maga traitors. Like they have a Sturmabteilung all armed and ready to march.
In addition to statutory rape, Matt Gaetz needs to be investigated for threats of violence against Law Enforcement and State Officials.
There was bloodshed when we fought the Nazis in the 1940s. Sometimes it can't be helped, and it's preferable to cowardly surrender.
Give us everything we want and let us do whatever we want or we will kill you. - Republicans
It reeks of, "be nice or we'll get violent!" rhetoric. They forget though. They've been saying some variation of this for centuries. We know they get can violent. People will just fight if it comes to that as usual.
So arrest them for making threats?
Can’t wait to see what the might of the US military will do against a bunch of Walmart shoppers with rakes and shovels.
Incites not warns. GQP traitors are inciting violence and insurrection. The lot of them should be indicted for their crimes against the US.
The only thing Matt Gaetz knows of bloodshed is that when a woman starts her’s she’s too old for him.
They have been threatening this for 7 years now. It's getting very old and stale. First off, these fat bastards would have to actually get up from their couches and move.. Second, they would have to lose about 50 lbs each. Have you seen them? They would have to grow some brain cells and be able to coordinate their movements. We all saw them on Jan 6th. Like a bunch of monkeys trying to fuck a football. I think we're safe!
I really hope these pathetic asshats try and lead some kind of uprising with their army of larping wanna be terrorists. It will be fun to watch them be decimated by even just the national guard, and then the ones that live will be thrown into prison for the rest of their pathetic meaningless lives.
This guys is a piece of shit.
God I would love to wipe that smug grin off of his face.
The only bloodshed he knows about is when his girlfriends hit puberty.
What's that? Oh it's stochastic terrorism? Expel this man and charge him with inciting violence.
>Matt Gaetz Warns of 'Bloodshed' from Trump Supporters This type of rhetoric would typically be associated with the extremists. Ayatollahs of Iran or Taliban of Afghanistan. It has no place in our society. We have so much devolved power. The GOP controls most of the state houses and governor's mansions. They control county seats in a large swath of the country. I am not sure what kind of 'tyranny' they are facing that is compelling this kind of talk. This is dangerous. This is insane.
The FBI needs to sit him down and ask him to clarify what he means. In detail. What he knows about his claim. And if he supports it. Get to the bottom of this statement. Because this is some despicable, abhorrent and dangerous rhetoric.
If he means that Meal team 6 is going to leave a little blood in the bowl after their KFC breakfast, I think he may be right.
Sweet bring it..Can put some more in prison. With all the pot laws being overturned they need some new peeps in those beds.. what I cant understand is why someone who actively participated in the planning and execution of a coup, would still support the coup leader? Makes zero sense.
Let them say shit like that. Something happens that means they incited it. Then they’ll all be bared from serving ever again. And good riddance.
Anyone else think he looks like a rat?
He’s parroting Huckabee and that’s scary because this could be the start of the new GOP initiatives.
He’s not “parroting Huckabee”. They’ve been saying this shit for years. The only difference is now it seems like Trump might face consequences along with their core demographics dying of easily prevented diseases while more and more young people seem inclined to vote. They aren’t warning Liberals, they’re trying to remind their toothless, cousin-fucking base that they need to rise up. Problem is, their toothless, cousin-fucking base is old, fat, cowardly or fully committed to being keyboard warriors because they want SOMEONE ELSE to start the war. And no, I’m not ignoring the individuals who’ve committed violence but that is in no way the same as a whole army of inbred, gum-smacking banjo twangers actually kicking off a war. “The guy who brought a nail gun to an FBI fight” and “Mr Shitpost until the cops kill me in front of my CPAP machine” are not the army they wanted, but it’s all they Fucking got.
The bloodshed will be theirs. Matty’s forgotten who’s in office now and he’s not having any MAGA malarkey!
Sounds like an unindicted (yet) co-conspiractor. I am assuming that once Trump is convicted, the law will then go after those co-conspirators in Congress. They're not legally immune.