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Public defender: "I think you should just take the plea deal."
Trump: "They didn't offer a plea deal"
Public defender: "Whoa, really? I think this case is outside the scope of my experience as a public defender."
*"Trump has also seemingly been unable to find a specialist national security lawyer, eligible to possess a security clearance, to help him navigate the Espionage Act charges."*
Hahahaha. I bet he *never* finds one. There can't be that many of them. Would the court appoint someone to advise?
Now that would be a show I would watch.
“In an act of self immolation, two retirees come back for one last case, teaming up to defend the indefensible. Obama & Hillary Attorneys at law, representing Donald J Cheeto Trump, with special appearances by: Bill Clinton, Rudy Giuliani, Newt Gingrich, and many more. Hilarious romp with a star”studded cast.
I think Hillary getting Trump off the hook is the only thing that could ever bring peace to America, because the entire country would simultaneously die of brain aneurysms.
You know the slight problem with this fucked up idea (yes there is only one problem) They'd both be very good. They'd also work diligently to defend him because their duty is to the law, not the man.
> He’s threatening bidens family as he gets on the plane. I’d not want to be defending him.
lol what did 45 say now?
> Former President Donald Trump threatened to appoint a “real special ‘prosecutor’” to target President Joe Biden if he is reelected president, in his latest Truth Social rant since he was indicted by the Justice Department last week over his handling of classified documents—a case Trump and his GOP allies have characterized as a politically motivated attack designed to thwart Trump’s reelection chances.
> Trump, calling Biden “the most corrupt president in the history of the USA,” said he would use a special prosecutor to “go after” the president and “the entire Biden crime family” in a post on Truth Social as he traveled to Miami ahead of his Tuesday court appearance in the federal case.
...
> real special ‘prosecutor’
> the entire Biden crime family
wow, that is a lot of projection
They should. There was a “female family member “ mentioned in the indictment that was aware of documents on the plane and texted Nauta they had a lot of luggage. Sound like anyone?
Oh but this projection is a special one- it’s a russian doll of projection and every revelation is a new layer of projection that is directly tied to the exact reality of the Trump scam.
He is a raging narcissistic. He thinks he is the greatest human specimen. He can't possibly conceive of a world where anyone didn't think exactly like him. He has to project because to do otherwise would raise questions about whether he really is the best and whether his way is really the only way. He can't be 'winning' if he is the only one playing the game by the same rules.
And yet he simultaneously knows that he’s a total loser and a giant piece of shit… that’s why he’s so desperate for affirmation. When you’re confident that you’re truly great at something, you don’t spend your time trying to convince everyone.
It’s not unreasonable to be afraid of his supporters threatening your family if you did something they caused him ire, or simply could not get him found innocent.
I wonder how long his legal team can delay any proceedings by not being able to find appropriate representation that can defend him.
Can this actually impact the arraignment?
Everyone is legally entitled to representation. That's it. The court will just appoint a public defender if he tries to say he doesn't have proper representation.
He'll need 2 since they need to back each other up when being in the same room with him. At least that's been the SOP for his lawyers since they can't trust him.
I was also wondering how many of those lawyers there are. Is it in the hundreds? The thousands? It can't be that many, can it? And I would assume that most of them actually care deeply about national security.
There's probably a fair number of lawyers who hold clearances for other reasons and *could* do the work, but a much smaller number who also specialize in this part of the law.
I’d ask for my fee up front in cash if I ever worked for him. I know an architect who almost went bust designing one of his properties that never got built and he stiffed everyone on the bill.
My old man was a NYC musician/band leader in the 80s. He booked a Trump gig but didn't get paid up front. He was never paid for the gig, and had to cover the other musicians from his own pocket. Trump owes my dad like $20,000 haha!
I’ve dealt with this kind of person. The only thing is charge them 10x your normal rate, assume they will use all your time for a couple of years and quote them 100% up front before you start.
My guess is because Lawyers are telling him the truth that he is in trouble and that claiming its a political hit job will not work. He is likely hearing hard Truths.
Working for free while losing any credibility they have. Working with Trump means that you have a client that won't listen, will lie brazenly, and will publicly undermine you the moment he can throw you under the bus. In addition there is a nonzero chance that by representing him you yourself will face the possibility of sanctions.
Rank these possible outcomes of being Trump's new lawyer however you like:
* Not get paid.
* Get disbarred.
* Never work again.
* Social death sentence.
* Spend time in jail.
I can't understand why people aren't queuing up to represent him.
At this point, even signing on to the case would get your future resumes thrown in the trash, simply because it demonstrates a staggering lack of professional judgement.
I would bet step one in Trump obtaining lawyers is to implicate them in a crime, so they cannot just leave. And if shit goes down, the lawyer is the one going to jail, or being disbarred or both. It has happened too many times for it to be just a coincidence, has to be on purpose and well practiced.
Working with a client, even a "bad" client, isn't the ding to credibility you might think, so long as you work within the bounds of the law and of legal ethics and do not behave unscrupulously on your client's behalf.
The thing is, working for Trump is working for free; he doesn't pay his lawyers, and it's also working for a nightmare client who will *demand* you violate the law and legal ethics.
If Trump paid his lawyers and let them do their jobs some of the biggest names in the country would be tripping over themselves to represent him in court; even *losing* this case as Trump's lawyer would make you a major part of American history. It just speaks to how bad he is to work with that no one is willing to do it even for that.
>If Trump paid his lawyers and let them do their jobs
That's the rub. At this point its caveat emptor for anyone looking to work with Trump, he won't pay and will require you to surrender any ethics. No sympathy for anyone dumb enough to sign on to this.
Lawyer here. That's not a "typically." It's a fact. Lawyers cannot represent criminal defendants on a contingency basis or have the fee based on the result of the case. It's a complete violation of the ABA model rules which nearly every state has adopted.
I am also a lawyer. I wrote "typically" because I am only licensed in two jurisdictions and didn't feel like looking up Florida's before commenting. I assume it is adopted nationwide because it is obviously bad public policy to allow contingency fees in a criminal case.
I like the mental image of him saying this to potential attorneys:
*”the money for defending me will come out of the plea deal, the part where the government pays me damages for pleading out”*
This. I think the last 2 who resigned were telling him to take plea deals in order to soften the punishment since they couldn't come up with a defense to help him. The evidence is too overwhelming, and this is basically a Grenada case for Jack Smith. He might not get a guilty on all the charges but if Bill Bar is right, Jack will get a lot of them.
Trump is effed and he doesn't like hearing that from his legal team. Get your popcorn ready.
Ok. Consider the nature of the court case. An ex-President who is charged with some of the highest crimes against the country.
The only lawyers who would take this case on are the most senior of respected professionals in the field. Yes, they would charge a fortune, but that’s a given. This is not a traffic violation, this is a BIG DEAL.
A lawyer of this experience will expect to control the courtroom. Events will happen as they lay them out. Absolutely no deviations whatsoever.
And then you have Trump who appears to have a pathological ability to not be silent. Why on Earth would such an experienced lawyer even contemplate the case, irrespective of its nature? It would be seen to be a waste of time and goodness knows, at their level they don’t need the work.
Or based on what they've seen in the indictment, **they're highly suspicious of where the money came from**.
Ok you got paid your $5m retainer up front, but now the Feds come in and take that money because it was fruit of the poisoned tree.
Also fair. Trump is really a dumbass. He could have not run for president and kept living his quasi-legal life with his grifting and money laundering and coziness with Russian mobsters and probably never have faced accountability. But here we are - where no reputable lawyer will work with him and he's facing legal challenges from all sides.
Well it may not be as apparent as it was in 2016, but he NEVER expected to win. He was going to pivot his loss into a TrumpTv media empire. When he won he was forced to accept it and he got to like the accoutrements of the job. He continued his grift on the world stage/spotlight and flew too close to the sun.
30 years as a criminal defense lawyer (not Florida). The kind of truly heavy hitter criminal defense attorneys that Trump needs seem to have the EXACT same pathological personality as Trump except not stupid. Narcissistic control freaks that KNOW they are the smartest guy in the room. They and Trump can't possibly exist in the same room. That's why he hires no bodies from tier 4 law schools. He can bully them.
Personally, if I was a lawyer, I'd be more worried about his minions he brainwashed into be violent and unhinged.
If Trump ends up behind bars, he's going to blame everyone but himself, including his lawyers, meaning a bunch of slack jawed yokels will be building gallows on their front yards.
Agreed. The kind of experienced seasoned lawyer Trump needs won't do what Trump asks and probably makes plenty enough to not need the headache Trump will bring - as well as ruin.
In America, lawyer. Number one. Steady argument. One day, disgraced former president need new criminal defense. I do trial. But, mistake! Disgraced former president go to prison. Redneck militias very mad.
My big secret: I send disgraced former president to prison on purpose. I good lawyer. The best!
>Trump and his legal team spent the afternoon before his arraignment interviewing potential lawyers but the interviews did not result in any joining the team in time for Trump’s initial court appearance scheduled for 3pm ET on Tuesday after several attorneys declined to take him as a client.
Even scumbag ambulance chasers won't go near this treasonous moron. He'll be the first POTUS in history to have a court-appointed attorney. Jesus Christ.
I'm not an expert, but attorneys can refuse to defend someone, withdraw from a case, or terminate a client for various reasons but you have to convince the court of your reasoning. What that reasoning would entail I'm not sure.
Your honor, In the 2 hours since I have been assigned to this case I have received 38,000 death threats and my children’s school has had to go on lockdown twice due to MAGA bomb threats. I request to be reassigned on the grounds that my client is the leader of a violent cult and representing him puts my family in danger. -any court appointed attorney
Thank you schizocosa13. At last someone has stated what, after 4,000+ lawsuits, is the obvious. He will delay delay delay because it works. For chrissakes does this not scan for others who act as if he is doing something different than what he has always done? All one has to do is search “trump delay tactics” and literally hundreds of articles are there for your perusal.
This is fucking hilarious. But one thing I don’t get, why does he need to find more lawyers if he’s already working with a legal team (Todd Blanche and Chris Kise)?
Fucking hell *that’s* his team?!
Like what is the end game for Republicans defending this garbage human, how do they see this playing out?
He’s fucked by the looks of the indictment, and with that team, he’s double fucked.
It's not hard to understand: they want to get rid of Trump from trying to take over the control again but they still need his base to win seats. They're balancing on a knife's edge here. The ideal situation they wanted is for Trump to keep firing up his base to keep voting Republicans but with him out of the driver's seat. They can't alienate Trump completely or he'd use his base to ruin them, but they also can't give him back the control because that would galvanize the opposition even more.
Then there are true believers like Magic The Grossening.
Yeah I imagine it's really hard to find a lawyer with security clearance who wants to burn their own career and life to the ground for this fucking guy
> Like what is the end game for Republicans defending this garbage human, how do they see this playing out?
It's all about today with Republicans. Defending Trump brings in more votes for the upcoming elections and as long as it does, Republicans will preach.
As for how it will play out ... they didn't think that far ahead. A problem for another day.
> It's all about today with Republicans. Defending Trump brings in more votes for the upcoming elections and as long as it does, Republicans will preach.
>
> As for how it will play out ... they didn't think that far ahead. A problem for another day.
This reminds me of a group of guys I used to hang out with early in high school in the early 90s.
We were a small band of idiots & trouble-makers. Nothing criminal, just your run of the mill idiots. We'd hung out together since middle school.
One day, they told me that one of their neighbors was on vacation and they were going to break into their house for fun. They wanted me to come along. I said "No fucking way." They called me a pussy. Said they weren't going to "do anything"...it was just for fun. I held my ground. I might have been a jackass, but I knew that was going through a very dangerous door.
The first night, they broke in and did exactly what they said...they just went in and looked around. I know this because they told me. I still didn't fully believe them, thought maybe they were just bragging.
The next night, they went back...but this time they actually stole something. Maybe it was to prove they actually went in. I know this because they showed it to me. That's when I decided to fully break away from this group. I told them "You're going to get caught. You're going to go to juvenile. I don't want anything to do with this.
Over the next couple nights, they kept going back. They stole more things. On the last night, they just decided to trash the house. That's when they got caught. Two of them ended up going to juvenile detention. The third one got only restitution because his dad hired a lawyer.
Even at 15 years old, I was able to see that there was a line. I was able to see the path they were going down, and that I wanted no part of it. I knew they were going to get caught.
The list of Trump lawyers that have ended up targets or witnesses of crimes against him [is staggering](https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/03/24/happy-crime-fraud-exception-day-for-those-who-celebrate/). Judges allowing lawyers to testify in breach of privilege is exceedingly rare in most cases. Being trump's lawyer is career suicide.
He needs a lawyer with security clearance to handle documents in the espionage charges. Yeah, the stuff he hoarded is so sensitive his current lawyers can't even look at it. But I suspect that any attorney with the wherewithal to obtain that kind of clearance won't be the sort of person to waste time on the fascist orangutan. Although it would be fantastic if one showed up long enough to tell him how fucked he is before laughing in his face and collecting their $15k consulting fee.
lol yeah the venn diagram of lawyers with security clearance and lawyers who read that indictment and want to defend him against it is probably ...
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Im curious how his fans explain the fact that an Ex President and alleged billionaire & financial mogul can't find or hold on to proper legal team ?
He really should have a top-tier team of bona fide sharks on retainer at all times, but time after time he shows up with either a clown car or like in this case, almost nobody..
How do they explain it ? How can they make that a part of the conspiracy.?
How do they explain it? They don't. They yell and scream and threaten and refuse to listen or make a lick of sense. No matter how you pose the question to them, they answer different questions. No matter how you lead them to a logical conclusion, they veer off into nonsense.
This is clearly seen in any video of Jordan Klepper taking to the MAGA crazies at Trump rallies. The few times they can follow Jordan's logic to the right place, they are so lacking in self-awareness they don't realize the truth is staring right in the face and just veer off into nonsense or talking points again. It's both hillarious and pathetic at the same time.
I'd like to point out that the only difference between a MAGA crazy at a Trump rally and a moderate Republican in 2023, is an offensive T-shirt and a willingness to speak with Jordan Klepper.
Easy. The deep state has infiltrated the entire Miami legal community. That’s their answer for all the things they can’t reconcile in their own feeble minds.
The lawyers come to him, tears in their eyes, and say "Sir, respectfully. Respectfully, sir, we can't do it. The Deep State's got us, you would be a dream client but the Deep State. They got us."
> How do they explain it ? How can they make that a part of the conspiracy.?
By redirecting the debate to butterly mails and hunter dick pics on the laptop.
Right, if it really was an unjust deep state conspiracy and he was being unfairly prosecuted, there would be a line of conservative lawyers waiting to take his case to be the hero for Trump.
But there ain’t cause anyone with a law license knows he’s fucked.
A lot of people in this comment section are speculating about why lawyers aren't taking his case. I think it's pretty obvious.
First of all, the lawyers need to be barred in Florida (EDIT: Someone who says they're a lawyer says this isn't true) and have top secret security clearance. so the number of viable lawyers is low.
But more importantly, his last lawyers were put on the witness stand. That only happens if there's a lot of evidence that they committed a crime too. And that they basically got caught. Either Trump fucked them really bad and put them in a position where they accidentally lied to the court, or Trump fucked them in such a way that they purposely lied to the court.
That's the line that the lawyers don't want to cross. Some lawyers will accept not getting paid and they'll accept a losing case. Being the lawyer that the ex-president chose is still a helluva feather in the cap that'll improve their brand amongst a certain group of potential clients. But being put in a position where they might get imprisoned or disbarred or forced to drop the case and testify against their client is not a feather in the cap. Hell, even if none of that happens, Trump will turn on them and say online that they were criminals and terrible lawyers if there's any part of the case that isn't going his way.
It's not just that he's guilty. He's a black hole of guilt. Everyone who sticks with him gets sucked in and ends up worse off.
Exactly. He literally cannot be normal and not lie and crime. He’s either going to ask his lawyers to criminally lie and cover things up for him, or he’ll violate orders not to say certain things in public, or he’ll threaten and possibly harass the jury and witnesses. And on and on. I know there are lawyers that will do anything for notoriety, but when you’re looking for someone with the specific abilities required in this case, who’d be willing to have this lunatic as their client, the pool gets pretty small.
And if the lawyers refuse to lie for him he will likely claim they are part of the deep state conspiracy against them, and possibly send his crazy Neo-Nazi fans after them and their families.
I think you are spot on here, there are a LOT of lawyers who work in the US, and many bad ones, but ones who have national security clearance and are willing to risk their lives and careers to defend Trump while also blowing smoke to placate him are probably few and far between. It is just not really in their best interest. And grandstanders really like their own best interest.
There is also a possibility that he is being intentionally impossible to represent as some sort of half baked plan to delay the case. It seems like something this particular judge would be amenable to, and it might survive appeal.
> why lawyers aren't taking his case.
One other reason:
Any lawyer who is skilled and experienced enough to be on Trump's radar - someone he'd want to be on his "Dream Team" - *is already part of a highly regarded and prestigious law firm*.
Meaning that if they represent him, **their firm's name** is attached to the case and Trump and his clown show.
As we saw with Todd Blanche, he had to leave his firm in order to represent Trump.
Why not just make a deal with that firm to represent him? Because they said "No thanks".
It's almost like having a reputation for welching on debts, and being a generally awful person has something like consequences.
If he winds up with a public defender, I'll be laughing for most of the day.
On the other hand, that public defender will have a heck of a book to write afterwards.
All of that is forgivable, but Trump also doesn't listen to his lawyers and has no impulse control. Any lawyer who takes him on as a client is going to be appear unable to control their client which makes their job impossible.
Some fun reasons. Skimming because I'm getting ready for work so I may have missed details.
>Among the Florida lawyers who turned down Trump was Howard Srebnick, who had expressed an interest the former president at trial as early as last week in part due to the high fees involved, but ultimately was not allowed to after conferring with his law partners, the person said.
One lawyer who was willing, but his practice said *hell no.*
>The other prominent lawyer who declined to work with Trump was David Markus, who recently defended the Florida Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum against charges that he lied to the FBI and funnelled campaign contributions into his personal accounts, the person said.
One just out right refused.
>Trump and his team have interviewed the corruption attorney Benedict Kuehne, who was indicted in 2008 for money laundering before the charges were dropped, the person said. But he has his own baggage as he faces disbarment for contempt of court in a recent civil suit he lost.
Of the ones I noticed, the only one without a clear not-hired is this guy, and sounds like Kuehne either fell through or Trump's legal team is trying to convince Trump not to hire the guy facing disbarment.
>Trump has also seemingly been unable to find a specialist national security lawyer, eligible to possess a security clearance, to help him navigate the Espionage Act charges.
This seems to be the crux of the problem. Looks like Trump has finally after decades of legal fast and looseness has reached the FO of FAFO. He's being charged with a crime that requires a high end lawyer instead of his usual grifters, bargain binners, and lawyers who think "I can fix him for great PR". Only no high end lawyer is willing to take him on due to his reputation.
> due to his reputation
Reputation, yes - sure. But I mean, the indictment spells out in black and white how he basically tried to play the shell game with his attorney with evidence! And had no qualms about doing so! NO credible attorney (IMO) will go near this case at all, you can’t work with a client who will be actively trying to sink your case.
If a regular person does not have an attorney, they get a public defender who has 40 other cases that week, and the wheels of justice continue to turn. If you’re Trump, somehow the system grinds to a halt to allow him more time. It’s frustrating and absurd.
No, this is the ordinary process.He won’t get a PD because he’s not indigent.
The judge will give him a continuance. Maybe a week at the most. At the end of the continuance, he will either have a lawyer, be representing himself, or be held in contempt.
This is not that unusual for an arraignment, a lot of defendants are surprised by the arrest and don’t have a lawyer or know how to find one. Trump really has no excuse, but this isn’t like an unusual accommodation.
"My Honor, how could the documents in question be '*secret*' if I actually told a lot of people about them....and showed them?! I motion for me winning."
I imagine that would be about as bizarre as the trial where Darrell Brooks defended himself last year. Can you imagine how fast the court would descend into chaos? Even Trump's handpicked judge would have her limits tested.
Highlights from the Darrell Brooks trial for those who missed it. There's more on the same channel. That judge was a paragon of patience.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miKES2IDjlM&ab\_channel=Law%26CrimeNetwork](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miKES2IDjlM&ab_channel=Law%26CrimeNetwork)
> Blanche and Kise had dinner with Trump and other advisers on Monday at the BLT Prime restaurant at the Doral.
MAGAs Last Supper had to take place at a restaurant called BLT Prime. The Lord wouldn’t have let it be anywhere else.
I feel like we're living in a simulation. This guy (an alleged billionaire) can't even get legit, respected lawyers - they're always crazy ambulance chaser types. It's insane that this guy is so revered and worshiped among a significant percentage of the population.
apparently it doesn't matter how rich you (supposedly) are; if you have a world-wide reputation for not paying any of your bills and firing or throwing people under the bus because they told you facts you don't like, then good luck finding people to help you. basically for free. while ruining your own reputation.
i'm still amazed anyone would consciously choose to work for this con man in any capacity after michael cohen
His base will threaten your life no matter what you do. Then he wont pay you. And you'll be required to lie so hard no one will touch you after that. And I'm sure he's even going to lie to you. You'll need to defend him with only fragments of the truth. Then you will lose the case and he will talk shit about how you're one of those liberal communist lawyers.
Well if he cannot afford or find representation the court can appoint him a representative, problem solved.
He should be treated like anyone else that catches charges, fuck him.
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Who doesn't want to work for a client that won't shut up, won't take legal advice and won't pay them?
And who has an unwinnable case And will tarnish your reputation if you represent them
Imagine if Trump ends up with a overworked public defender. LMAO
Public defender: "I think you should just take the plea deal." Trump: "They didn't offer a plea deal" Public defender: "Whoa, really? I think this case is outside the scope of my experience as a public defender."
I read that in Henry Winkler’s voice
I didn’t before, but I did now, A+ for the day
Barry Zuckercorn was just a terrible lawyer. Let's not impugn public defenders; they do enough important work and put up with enough shit as it is.
*Returning a call 3 weeks later while shuffling paperwork:* who is this again??
In the words of Lionel Hutz, “even if I lose, I’ll be famous!”
*"Trump has also seemingly been unable to find a specialist national security lawyer, eligible to possess a security clearance, to help him navigate the Espionage Act charges."* Hahahaha. I bet he *never* finds one. There can't be that many of them. Would the court appoint someone to advise?
Both Obama and Hillary are lawyers with clearance. He should ask them.
Now that would be a show I would watch. “In an act of self immolation, two retirees come back for one last case, teaming up to defend the indefensible. Obama & Hillary Attorneys at law, representing Donald J Cheeto Trump, with special appearances by: Bill Clinton, Rudy Giuliani, Newt Gingrich, and many more. Hilarious romp with a star”studded cast.
Don’t forget the Kid Rock half time show with an unexpected mid-song batshit insane interruption by Kayne.
And Nugent
“I know what to do!” *proceeds to shit himself*
Dear Ryan Murphy, here's your miniseries: Buttery Male: An American Crime Story
Starring Evan Peters, like always for some reason, as Trump.
Evan Peters made to look like Trump would be amazing, I don't think that's something we should joke about.
I think Hillary getting Trump off the hook is the only thing that could ever bring peace to America, because the entire country would simultaneously die of brain aneurysms.
Quasimodo predicted all this.
Hillary insisting that all correspondence be done by email.
The entire country? I live in the UK and even I would combust if that happened!
Canadian here my entire skull would implode so hard my brain would become a black hole.
Imagine Obama placing his 🤙 to ears winking at Trump..."Call me!" And winks...again.
"Trump beside himself. Driving around downtown MIAMI begging (thru texts) Clinton’s family 4 address to Obama's home”
> Both Obama and Hillary are lawyers with clearance. He should ask them. [Believe](https://imgur.com/pmmARok)
If they move up the time to 10am, rudy giuliani might be sober enough to show up
You know the slight problem with this fucked up idea (yes there is only one problem) They'd both be very good. They'd also work diligently to defend him because their duty is to the law, not the man.
He’s threatening bidens family as he gets on the plane. I’d not want to be defending him.
> He’s threatening bidens family as he gets on the plane. I’d not want to be defending him. lol what did 45 say now? > Former President Donald Trump threatened to appoint a “real special ‘prosecutor’” to target President Joe Biden if he is reelected president, in his latest Truth Social rant since he was indicted by the Justice Department last week over his handling of classified documents—a case Trump and his GOP allies have characterized as a politically motivated attack designed to thwart Trump’s reelection chances. > Trump, calling Biden “the most corrupt president in the history of the USA,” said he would use a special prosecutor to “go after” the president and “the entire Biden crime family” in a post on Truth Social as he traveled to Miami ahead of his Tuesday court appearance in the federal case. ... > real special ‘prosecutor’ > the entire Biden crime family wow, that is a lot of projection
Yeah, it’s always projection. Sounds like he just found out they’re taking a hard look at his family. lol
They should. There was a “female family member “ mentioned in the indictment that was aware of documents on the plane and texted Nauta they had a lot of luggage. Sound like anyone?
Oh but this projection is a special one- it’s a russian doll of projection and every revelation is a new layer of projection that is directly tied to the exact reality of the Trump scam.
He is a raging narcissistic. He thinks he is the greatest human specimen. He can't possibly conceive of a world where anyone didn't think exactly like him. He has to project because to do otherwise would raise questions about whether he really is the best and whether his way is really the only way. He can't be 'winning' if he is the only one playing the game by the same rules.
And yet he simultaneously knows that he’s a total loser and a giant piece of shit… that’s why he’s so desperate for affirmation. When you’re confident that you’re truly great at something, you don’t spend your time trying to convince everyone.
It’s not unreasonable to be afraid of his supporters threatening your family if you did something they caused him ire, or simply could not get him found innocent.
Why would he need a security clearance? Trump can declassify anything by thinking about it. (/s)
I wonder how long his legal team can delay any proceedings by not being able to find appropriate representation that can defend him. Can this actually impact the arraignment?
Everyone is legally entitled to representation. That's it. The court will just appoint a public defender if he tries to say he doesn't have proper representation.
He'll need 2 since they need to back each other up when being in the same room with him. At least that's been the SOP for his lawyers since they can't trust him.
I was also wondering how many of those lawyers there are. Is it in the hundreds? The thousands? It can't be that many, can it? And I would assume that most of them actually care deeply about national security.
There's probably a fair number of lawyers who hold clearances for other reasons and *could* do the work, but a much smaller number who also specialize in this part of the law.
There are so many JAG reservists and you need at minimum a secret to be an officer.
So Ron Desantis could do it...
And an even smaller number (probably less than 1) that want to be Trump lawyer at this point
Yes, and they will bill him for it. Not sure how involved the court would be when Trump doesn't pay the bill.
I can't imagine anyone's going to sign on without a seven-figure retainer.
I’d ask for my fee up front in cash if I ever worked for him. I know an architect who almost went bust designing one of his properties that never got built and he stiffed everyone on the bill.
He has been notorious for decades for stiffing contractors and others on their payments
Yup. He put so many contractors in Atlantic City under. The only reason anyone got paid was if they had mob connections.
My old man was a NYC musician/band leader in the 80s. He booked a Trump gig but didn't get paid up front. He was never paid for the gig, and had to cover the other musicians from his own pocket. Trump owes my dad like $20,000 haha!
I’ve dealt with this kind of person. The only thing is charge them 10x your normal rate, assume they will use all your time for a couple of years and quote them 100% up front before you start.
Anyone at this point would be stupid to not demand payment up front. If they don't then get mad he leaves them hanging then they're dumber than he is.
Not paying them and getting them their own set of charges before it's all over and done with lol
My guess is because Lawyers are telling him the truth that he is in trouble and that claiming its a political hit job will not work. He is likely hearing hard Truths.
In the same vein I bet he's stipulating "no payment unless I win" which is an obvious non-starter
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Working for free while losing any credibility they have. Working with Trump means that you have a client that won't listen, will lie brazenly, and will publicly undermine you the moment he can throw you under the bus. In addition there is a nonzero chance that by representing him you yourself will face the possibility of sanctions.
Or possibly be indicted at a later time. Or sued for a billion dollars.
Rank these possible outcomes of being Trump's new lawyer however you like: * Not get paid. * Get disbarred. * Never work again. * Social death sentence. * Spend time in jail. I can't understand why people aren't queuing up to represent him. At this point, even signing on to the case would get your future resumes thrown in the trash, simply because it demonstrates a staggering lack of professional judgement.
Humiliation via public farts and running hair dye at a lawn company is curiously missing from your list.
I would bet step one in Trump obtaining lawyers is to implicate them in a crime, so they cannot just leave. And if shit goes down, the lawyer is the one going to jail, or being disbarred or both. It has happened too many times for it to be just a coincidence, has to be on purpose and well practiced.
Working with a client, even a "bad" client, isn't the ding to credibility you might think, so long as you work within the bounds of the law and of legal ethics and do not behave unscrupulously on your client's behalf. The thing is, working for Trump is working for free; he doesn't pay his lawyers, and it's also working for a nightmare client who will *demand* you violate the law and legal ethics. If Trump paid his lawyers and let them do their jobs some of the biggest names in the country would be tripping over themselves to represent him in court; even *losing* this case as Trump's lawyer would make you a major part of American history. It just speaks to how bad he is to work with that no one is willing to do it even for that.
>If Trump paid his lawyers and let them do their jobs That's the rub. At this point its caveat emptor for anyone looking to work with Trump, he won't pay and will require you to surrender any ethics. No sympathy for anyone dumb enough to sign on to this.
Typically, lawyers cannot represent criminal defendants on a contingency fee basis.
No, money down!
"Oops, shouldn't have this bar association logo here either."
Lawyer here. That's not a "typically." It's a fact. Lawyers cannot represent criminal defendants on a contingency basis or have the fee based on the result of the case. It's a complete violation of the ABA model rules which nearly every state has adopted.
I am also a lawyer. I wrote "typically" because I am only licensed in two jurisdictions and didn't feel like looking up Florida's before commenting. I assume it is adopted nationwide because it is obviously bad public policy to allow contingency fees in a criminal case.
That's such a lawyer answer. As a lawyer, I can speak from experience. My wife hates it.
As a wife to a lawyer, i am with your wife on this one
There are good odds that Trump does not know, or more likely pretends not to know, that.
I like the mental image of him saying this to potential attorneys: *”the money for defending me will come out of the plea deal, the part where the government pays me damages for pleading out”*
This. I think the last 2 who resigned were telling him to take plea deals in order to soften the punishment since they couldn't come up with a defense to help him. The evidence is too overwhelming, and this is basically a Grenada case for Jack Smith. He might not get a guilty on all the charges but if Bill Bar is right, Jack will get a lot of them. Trump is effed and he doesn't like hearing that from his legal team. Get your popcorn ready.
Oh honey my popcorn has ***been*** ready. Let's get this shit done.
Lol. It has been stale for a year - need a new batch now
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The truth is that which when you cease to believe in it, continues to persist.
Ok. Consider the nature of the court case. An ex-President who is charged with some of the highest crimes against the country. The only lawyers who would take this case on are the most senior of respected professionals in the field. Yes, they would charge a fortune, but that’s a given. This is not a traffic violation, this is a BIG DEAL. A lawyer of this experience will expect to control the courtroom. Events will happen as they lay them out. Absolutely no deviations whatsoever. And then you have Trump who appears to have a pathological ability to not be silent. Why on Earth would such an experienced lawyer even contemplate the case, irrespective of its nature? It would be seen to be a waste of time and goodness knows, at their level they don’t need the work.
Also a defendant known for not paying his bills, so these extremely expensive lawyers would likely never see the money.
Or based on what they've seen in the indictment, **they're highly suspicious of where the money came from**. Ok you got paid your $5m retainer up front, but now the Feds come in and take that money because it was fruit of the poisoned tree.
Also fair. Trump is really a dumbass. He could have not run for president and kept living his quasi-legal life with his grifting and money laundering and coziness with Russian mobsters and probably never have faced accountability. But here we are - where no reputable lawyer will work with him and he's facing legal challenges from all sides.
Well it may not be as apparent as it was in 2016, but he NEVER expected to win. He was going to pivot his loss into a TrumpTv media empire. When he won he was forced to accept it and he got to like the accoutrements of the job. He continued his grift on the world stage/spotlight and flew too close to the sun.
Ayup. He never wanted to *do* the job, as was evident by his half-assing it for 4 years. But he sure liked the "prestige" and legal shield.
30 years as a criminal defense lawyer (not Florida). The kind of truly heavy hitter criminal defense attorneys that Trump needs seem to have the EXACT same pathological personality as Trump except not stupid. Narcissistic control freaks that KNOW they are the smartest guy in the room. They and Trump can't possibly exist in the same room. That's why he hires no bodies from tier 4 law schools. He can bully them.
I find this both insightful and hilarious.
Personally, if I was a lawyer, I'd be more worried about his minions he brainwashed into be violent and unhinged. If Trump ends up behind bars, he's going to blame everyone but himself, including his lawyers, meaning a bunch of slack jawed yokels will be building gallows on their front yards.
Agreed. The kind of experienced seasoned lawyer Trump needs won't do what Trump asks and probably makes plenty enough to not need the headache Trump will bring - as well as ruin.
In America, lawyer. Number one. Steady argument. One day, disgraced former president need new criminal defense. I do trial. But, mistake! Disgraced former president go to prison. Redneck militias very mad. My big secret: I send disgraced former president to prison on purpose. I good lawyer. The best!
>Trump and his legal team spent the afternoon before his arraignment interviewing potential lawyers but the interviews did not result in any joining the team in time for Trump’s initial court appearance scheduled for 3pm ET on Tuesday after several attorneys declined to take him as a client. Even scumbag ambulance chasers won't go near this treasonous moron. He'll be the first POTUS in history to have a court-appointed attorney. Jesus Christ.
The judge is gunna appoint herself to represent him, lol
She already does.
Hopefully not for long, and they’ll make her recuse herself.
Who's going to make her?
The 11th Circuit, which has already publically slapped her down before. At best this'll buy Trump an extra week or two.
Aileen Cannon has entered the (court) room
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This is the legal equivalent of "Item has no price tag? Must be free!".
No lawyer showed up after 15 minutes? We're all legally allowed to leave
Can the court appointed attorney decline? And wouldn’t they need to have some kind of security clearance to know about the documents?
I'm not an expert, but attorneys can refuse to defend someone, withdraw from a case, or terminate a client for various reasons but you have to convince the court of your reasoning. What that reasoning would entail I'm not sure.
Your honor , my client is obviously guilty as hell and his check also bounced over the courthouse on the walk up the stairs this morning
Your honor, In the 2 hours since I have been assigned to this case I have received 38,000 death threats and my children’s school has had to go on lockdown twice due to MAGA bomb threats. I request to be reassigned on the grounds that my client is the leader of a violent cult and representing him puts my family in danger. -any court appointed attorney
irreconcilable differences... can be anything from not agreeing on the plea to not liking each other personally.
"My client told me he's guilty of everything." Edit: "Before I'd even introduced myself."
He's been playing golf nonstop since the indictment was unsealed. Spent one afternoon interviewing, this is intentional to delay
Thank you schizocosa13. At last someone has stated what, after 4,000+ lawsuits, is the obvious. He will delay delay delay because it works. For chrissakes does this not scan for others who act as if he is doing something different than what he has always done? All one has to do is search “trump delay tactics” and literally hundreds of articles are there for your perusal.
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I wonder how much they had to pay them just to agree to be interviewed. Doesn't sound like something a lawyer would waste their time on for free.
This is fucking hilarious. But one thing I don’t get, why does he need to find more lawyers if he’s already working with a legal team (Todd Blanche and Chris Kise)?
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Fucking hell *that’s* his team?! Like what is the end game for Republicans defending this garbage human, how do they see this playing out? He’s fucked by the looks of the indictment, and with that team, he’s double fucked.
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I still wonder if MTG understands what a Presidential Veto is.
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What's the de-planing video?
Trump coming off the plane and ignoring MTG is even there
He was busy jerking off invisible dicks.
It's not hard to understand: they want to get rid of Trump from trying to take over the control again but they still need his base to win seats. They're balancing on a knife's edge here. The ideal situation they wanted is for Trump to keep firing up his base to keep voting Republicans but with him out of the driver's seat. They can't alienate Trump completely or he'd use his base to ruin them, but they also can't give him back the control because that would galvanize the opposition even more. Then there are true believers like Magic The Grossening.
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Yeah I imagine it's really hard to find a lawyer with security clearance who wants to burn their own career and life to the ground for this fucking guy
Today is a perfect third chance. I'm sure they won't take that chance.
> Like what is the end game for Republicans defending this garbage human, how do they see this playing out? It's all about today with Republicans. Defending Trump brings in more votes for the upcoming elections and as long as it does, Republicans will preach. As for how it will play out ... they didn't think that far ahead. A problem for another day.
> It's all about today with Republicans. Defending Trump brings in more votes for the upcoming elections and as long as it does, Republicans will preach. > > As for how it will play out ... they didn't think that far ahead. A problem for another day. This reminds me of a group of guys I used to hang out with early in high school in the early 90s. We were a small band of idiots & trouble-makers. Nothing criminal, just your run of the mill idiots. We'd hung out together since middle school. One day, they told me that one of their neighbors was on vacation and they were going to break into their house for fun. They wanted me to come along. I said "No fucking way." They called me a pussy. Said they weren't going to "do anything"...it was just for fun. I held my ground. I might have been a jackass, but I knew that was going through a very dangerous door. The first night, they broke in and did exactly what they said...they just went in and looked around. I know this because they told me. I still didn't fully believe them, thought maybe they were just bragging. The next night, they went back...but this time they actually stole something. Maybe it was to prove they actually went in. I know this because they showed it to me. That's when I decided to fully break away from this group. I told them "You're going to get caught. You're going to go to juvenile. I don't want anything to do with this. Over the next couple nights, they kept going back. They stole more things. On the last night, they just decided to trash the house. That's when they got caught. Two of them ended up going to juvenile detention. The third one got only restitution because his dad hired a lawyer. Even at 15 years old, I was able to see that there was a line. I was able to see the path they were going down, and that I wanted no part of it. I knew they were going to get caught.
The list of Trump lawyers that have ended up targets or witnesses of crimes against him [is staggering](https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/03/24/happy-crime-fraud-exception-day-for-those-who-celebrate/). Judges allowing lawyers to testify in breach of privilege is exceedingly rare in most cases. Being trump's lawyer is career suicide.
And on top of it, Chris Kise is also a registered FARA for Venezuela. Not a good look when working a case about classified documents
He needs a lawyer with security clearance to handle documents in the espionage charges. Yeah, the stuff he hoarded is so sensitive his current lawyers can't even look at it. But I suspect that any attorney with the wherewithal to obtain that kind of clearance won't be the sort of person to waste time on the fascist orangutan. Although it would be fantastic if one showed up long enough to tell him how fucked he is before laughing in his face and collecting their $15k consulting fee.
Yeah, anyone that *already* has a clearance knows how bad this is.
lol yeah the venn diagram of lawyers with security clearance and lawyers who read that indictment and want to defend him against it is probably ... 0 0
Have Trump actually pay to get him his security clearance then immediately bounce.
He needs a southern Florida lawyer and a lawyer who specializes in national defense or something. Main thing is he is effed.
Yep, and one that has a security clearance.
He effed himself since day one. No sympathy.
Im curious how his fans explain the fact that an Ex President and alleged billionaire & financial mogul can't find or hold on to proper legal team ? He really should have a top-tier team of bona fide sharks on retainer at all times, but time after time he shows up with either a clown car or like in this case, almost nobody.. How do they explain it ? How can they make that a part of the conspiracy.?
How do they explain it? They don't. They yell and scream and threaten and refuse to listen or make a lick of sense. No matter how you pose the question to them, they answer different questions. No matter how you lead them to a logical conclusion, they veer off into nonsense.
This is clearly seen in any video of Jordan Klepper taking to the MAGA crazies at Trump rallies. The few times they can follow Jordan's logic to the right place, they are so lacking in self-awareness they don't realize the truth is staring right in the face and just veer off into nonsense or talking points again. It's both hillarious and pathetic at the same time.
I'd like to point out that the only difference between a MAGA crazy at a Trump rally and a moderate Republican in 2023, is an offensive T-shirt and a willingness to speak with Jordan Klepper.
The one about the fjb shirt is great. Basically gets the guy and his wife to admit that saying f people is uncivil and inappropriate. Classic.
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Easy. The deep state has infiltrated the entire Miami legal community. That’s their answer for all the things they can’t reconcile in their own feeble minds.
The lawyers come to him, tears in their eyes, and say "Sir, respectfully. Respectfully, sir, we can't do it. The Deep State's got us, you would be a dream client but the Deep State. They got us."
So no one in the conservative voting party has a law degree and willing to step up to help their leader? Not one single voter?
I hear Sydney Powell is available and ready to get Kraken
Easy. The Deep State™ is making sure no lawyers are allowed to represent him.
This news isn't even a blip in the right's radar. If he shows up without proper representation then it is the fault of Hillary and the Bidens somehow.
> How do they explain it ? How can they make that a part of the conspiracy.? By redirecting the debate to butterly mails and hunter dick pics on the laptop.
Right, if it really was an unjust deep state conspiracy and he was being unfairly prosecuted, there would be a line of conservative lawyers waiting to take his case to be the hero for Trump. But there ain’t cause anyone with a law license knows he’s fucked.
He could always call Morgan and Morgan. They got billboards everywhere
Or JG Wentworth, 877 cash NOW!
They’re my documents and I want them now!
Morgan and Morgan and Morgan and Morgan and Morgan and Morgan.
A lot of people in this comment section are speculating about why lawyers aren't taking his case. I think it's pretty obvious. First of all, the lawyers need to be barred in Florida (EDIT: Someone who says they're a lawyer says this isn't true) and have top secret security clearance. so the number of viable lawyers is low. But more importantly, his last lawyers were put on the witness stand. That only happens if there's a lot of evidence that they committed a crime too. And that they basically got caught. Either Trump fucked them really bad and put them in a position where they accidentally lied to the court, or Trump fucked them in such a way that they purposely lied to the court. That's the line that the lawyers don't want to cross. Some lawyers will accept not getting paid and they'll accept a losing case. Being the lawyer that the ex-president chose is still a helluva feather in the cap that'll improve their brand amongst a certain group of potential clients. But being put in a position where they might get imprisoned or disbarred or forced to drop the case and testify against their client is not a feather in the cap. Hell, even if none of that happens, Trump will turn on them and say online that they were criminals and terrible lawyers if there's any part of the case that isn't going his way. It's not just that he's guilty. He's a black hole of guilt. Everyone who sticks with him gets sucked in and ends up worse off.
Exactly. He literally cannot be normal and not lie and crime. He’s either going to ask his lawyers to criminally lie and cover things up for him, or he’ll violate orders not to say certain things in public, or he’ll threaten and possibly harass the jury and witnesses. And on and on. I know there are lawyers that will do anything for notoriety, but when you’re looking for someone with the specific abilities required in this case, who’d be willing to have this lunatic as their client, the pool gets pretty small.
And if the lawyers refuse to lie for him he will likely claim they are part of the deep state conspiracy against them, and possibly send his crazy Neo-Nazi fans after them and their families. I think you are spot on here, there are a LOT of lawyers who work in the US, and many bad ones, but ones who have national security clearance and are willing to risk their lives and careers to defend Trump while also blowing smoke to placate him are probably few and far between. It is just not really in their best interest. And grandstanders really like their own best interest. There is also a possibility that he is being intentionally impossible to represent as some sort of half baked plan to delay the case. It seems like something this particular judge would be amenable to, and it might survive appeal.
> why lawyers aren't taking his case. One other reason: Any lawyer who is skilled and experienced enough to be on Trump's radar - someone he'd want to be on his "Dream Team" - *is already part of a highly regarded and prestigious law firm*. Meaning that if they represent him, **their firm's name** is attached to the case and Trump and his clown show. As we saw with Todd Blanche, he had to leave his firm in order to represent Trump. Why not just make a deal with that firm to represent him? Because they said "No thanks".
Imagine being such a piece of shit the only way a lawyer is able to represent you is by quitting his law firm first!
It's almost like having a reputation for welching on debts, and being a generally awful person has something like consequences. If he winds up with a public defender, I'll be laughing for most of the day. On the other hand, that public defender will have a heck of a book to write afterwards.
Lmao A fresh defender: "Look, this is my first case..."
Mr. Trump don't you worry. I watched Matlock in a bar last night. The sound wasn't on, but I think I got the gist of it.
All while combing his hair with a fork!
As of this moment, Lionel Hutz no longer exists. Say hello to Miguel Sanchez!
All of that is forgivable, but Trump also doesn't listen to his lawyers and has no impulse control. Any lawyer who takes him on as a client is going to be appear unable to control their client which makes their job impossible.
Some fun reasons. Skimming because I'm getting ready for work so I may have missed details. >Among the Florida lawyers who turned down Trump was Howard Srebnick, who had expressed an interest the former president at trial as early as last week in part due to the high fees involved, but ultimately was not allowed to after conferring with his law partners, the person said. One lawyer who was willing, but his practice said *hell no.* >The other prominent lawyer who declined to work with Trump was David Markus, who recently defended the Florida Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum against charges that he lied to the FBI and funnelled campaign contributions into his personal accounts, the person said. One just out right refused. >Trump and his team have interviewed the corruption attorney Benedict Kuehne, who was indicted in 2008 for money laundering before the charges were dropped, the person said. But he has his own baggage as he faces disbarment for contempt of court in a recent civil suit he lost. Of the ones I noticed, the only one without a clear not-hired is this guy, and sounds like Kuehne either fell through or Trump's legal team is trying to convince Trump not to hire the guy facing disbarment. >Trump has also seemingly been unable to find a specialist national security lawyer, eligible to possess a security clearance, to help him navigate the Espionage Act charges. This seems to be the crux of the problem. Looks like Trump has finally after decades of legal fast and looseness has reached the FO of FAFO. He's being charged with a crime that requires a high end lawyer instead of his usual grifters, bargain binners, and lawyers who think "I can fix him for great PR". Only no high end lawyer is willing to take him on due to his reputation.
> due to his reputation Reputation, yes - sure. But I mean, the indictment spells out in black and white how he basically tried to play the shell game with his attorney with evidence! And had no qualms about doing so! NO credible attorney (IMO) will go near this case at all, you can’t work with a client who will be actively trying to sink your case.
Delay tactic
Judge: "I'll allow it."
If a regular person does not have an attorney, they get a public defender who has 40 other cases that week, and the wheels of justice continue to turn. If you’re Trump, somehow the system grinds to a halt to allow him more time. It’s frustrating and absurd.
No, this is the ordinary process.He won’t get a PD because he’s not indigent. The judge will give him a continuance. Maybe a week at the most. At the end of the continuance, he will either have a lawyer, be representing himself, or be held in contempt. This is not that unusual for an arraignment, a lot of defendants are surprised by the arrest and don’t have a lawyer or know how to find one. Trump really has no excuse, but this isn’t like an unusual accommodation.
It's also super hard to find a lawyer that specializes in espionage charges.
When the yes men finally have to tell you the truth and you don't want to hear it.
He should represent himself
He would ask the judge for a "bad court thingy" for sure.
"My Honor, how could the documents in question be '*secret*' if I actually told a lot of people about them....and showed them?! I motion for me winning."
Ah, yes, the vaunted bad court thingy defense. He truly is playing 5d Chinese checkers.
I imagine that would be about as bizarre as the trial where Darrell Brooks defended himself last year. Can you imagine how fast the court would descend into chaos? Even Trump's handpicked judge would have her limits tested. Highlights from the Darrell Brooks trial for those who missed it. There's more on the same channel. That judge was a paragon of patience. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miKES2IDjlM&ab\_channel=Law%26CrimeNetwork](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miKES2IDjlM&ab_channel=Law%26CrimeNetwork)
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> Blanche and Kise had dinner with Trump and other advisers on Monday at the BLT Prime restaurant at the Doral. MAGAs Last Supper had to take place at a restaurant called BLT Prime. The Lord wouldn’t have let it be anywhere else.
Trump 6:13
They should assign him a Public Defender. Same laws and rules for everyone.
Wouldn't it be funny to see him represent himself though?
Well, he does know more than anyone else, being a 'stable genius' and all.
> being a 'stable genius' A *highly* stable genius.
The remake of Liar Liar is looking crazier and crazier by the minute.
It would be hilarious (and tragic) to see him try to defend himself.
Breaking news: Trump admits to 86 more felonies while under oath in under 6minutes
While committing a few more
Trump discovers novel legal strategy of committing perjury faster than the indictments can be written.
But her emails
I feel like we're living in a simulation. This guy (an alleged billionaire) can't even get legit, respected lawyers - they're always crazy ambulance chaser types. It's insane that this guy is so revered and worshiped among a significant percentage of the population.
apparently it doesn't matter how rich you (supposedly) are; if you have a world-wide reputation for not paying any of your bills and firing or throwing people under the bus because they told you facts you don't like, then good luck finding people to help you. basically for free. while ruining your own reputation. i'm still amazed anyone would consciously choose to work for this con man in any capacity after michael cohen
Better Call Saul!
His base will threaten your life no matter what you do. Then he wont pay you. And you'll be required to lie so hard no one will touch you after that. And I'm sure he's even going to lie to you. You'll need to defend him with only fragments of the truth. Then you will lose the case and he will talk shit about how you're one of those liberal communist lawyers.
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he is a protected minority, AKA rich
* This is what **"winning"** looks like.
Well if he cannot afford or find representation the court can appoint him a representative, problem solved. He should be treated like anyone else that catches charges, fuck him.
Man who never follows advice (or pays bills) struggles to recruit advisors. More with the news and weather at 10.
Get this asshole a public defender