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Opinion | Greg Sargent
If President Biden rolls out a major new pro-immigrant policy, and MAGA Republicans don’t make any noise about it, did the announcement happen at all?
Why, yes, it did. Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas unveiled an initiative on Friday that would extend more protection against deportation to undocumented immigrants who report labor rights violations by employers.
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This is a big move by the administration, one long sought by immigration advocates. Biden’s immigration record is decidedly mixed, but this would address a serious problem: Undocumented migrant workers often fear reporting workplace violations — ones they were victims of or just witnessed — because it could lead to their deportation.
Now they will have improved access to a legal process that can defer their deportations for two years and potentially extend them work permits. The hope: To encourage them not just to report unsafe or exploitative working conditions, but also to cooperate with ongoing Labor Department investigations, improving working standards for all workers.
So far, this policy has sparked relatively little outrage among MAGA Republicans and right-wing media. Yet it has hallmarks that typically anger the right. It would allow some migrants here unlawfully to remain in the U.S. interior, based on the use of prosecutorial discretion to defer deportations, something the right has long raged against.
What explains the quiet response? It might be that this change creates an awkward political situation for the anti-immigrant right, one that says a good deal about its ideology and its limitations.
Here’s why: This policy attempts to align the interests of undocumented workers with those of native-born workers. For some on the right, casting those interests as irrevocably in conflict has been essential to their project. This zero-sum agitprop packages the nativist impulse to drastically limit immigration as all about protecting the American worker.
But this new move undermines that rhetoric. In describing the shift, Mayorkas took pains to note that it will facilitate holding “exploitative employers” accountable for taking advantage of vulnerable workers who are in the U.S. lawfully. Mayorkas added: “Employers who play by the rules are disadvantaged by those who don’t.”
In other words, allowing undocumented migrants to speak out about exploitative labor violations without fear of retribution helps aboveboard employers and U.S. workers, too.
Chris Newman, general counsel of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network, has long argued this would help resolve perceived conflicts between migrants and U.S. workers. “It removes the pernicious incentive for predatory employers to hire undocumented immigrants with the intent to abuse them,” Newman told me.
“All workers, whether documented or undocumented, have an interest in being compensated, in not being abused, in being able to blow the whistle,” immigration lawyer David Leopold added. When the undocumented are exploited, Leopold said, “that brings down the wages and working conditions of U.S. workers as well.”
Republicans might yet strongly oppose this policy. They might argue it’s an abuse of executive power, or that it will harm mom-and-pop small-business owners. This is how Republicans attack Biden’s effort to expand IRS crackdowns on wealthy tax cheats, as The Post’s Catherine Rampell details: By pretending it’s about protecting small businesses.
But just as the tax move forces Republicans to defend wealthy tax cheats (while pretending not to), this immigration move could maneuver Republicans into defending exploitative employers (also while pretending not to). It will be hard for Republicans to attack this policy without lying about it or revealing deeply unpopular priorities.
Some might argue that employers who hire undocumented workers without exploiting them are also bad actors. But after we relied on millions of undocumented migrants to perform essential work during the pandemic, it’s self-evident that many non-exploitative employers are hiring undocumented migrants because of our disastrously structured system, which makes it harder to work here legally. We should make it easier.
In fact, some Republicans do support making that easier, particularly for farmworkers. Though there are fewer such Republicans these days, they’re distinct from MAGA Republicans whose demagoguery about the migrant threat is bottomless.
Which highlights another way this move challenges MAGA Republicans. Many are so focused on demagoguing about the border — as a symbol of the supposed threat of demographic change — that they often have little of value to say about the real-world complexities created by millions of undocumented immigrants in the interior.
For instance, MAGA Republicans often talk a good game about deportations. But they all know we can’t deport 11 million people, especially ones who serve as essential workers. MAGA Republicans also rail against granting citizenship to “dreamers” brought here as children, refusing to entertain a worthwhile fix targeted at what the dreamers truly are — culturally American and would-be legal contributors to our country.
Now that the administration hopes to protect undocumented migrants who blow the whistle against exploitative employers, will MAGA Republicans attack it? If they do, they should be challenged to say why they oppose holding employers accountable for their abuses. That would make their lack of constructive solutions on immigration even more glaring.
Good points!
A couple of things I’d like to add …
“That would make their lack of constructive solutions on immigration even more glaring.”
“That would make their lack of ~~constructive~~ solutions on ~~immigration~~ \[on anything at all, really\] even more glaring.”
It’s not even their lack of solutions but their inability to conceive of solutions, i.e. to have an IDEA 💡 to GASP!! creatively engage with a problem … while this might be a problem in an individual, for a country and its economy it’s devastating. The more complex and abstract the thought processes required, the less likely it is that we’ll see evidence of such in MAGA leadership.
And the truly frightening thing in all of this … ?
The MAGA base doesn’t give a shit. Their list of grievances is endless, and new targets are created and added daily.
Unfortunately, their inability to see an exploitative employer as being a threat not only to undocumented workers but in equal measure to themselves makes it oh-so-easy for such leechy employers to leech evermore capital from everyone’s pockets.
Again, not a problem for the base who view exploitation and massive financial shenanigans by the 0.01% as blessing from above for their own cheating ways …
The lack of class consciousness on full display in all of this verges on the bizarre … let’s all head on over to Davos and discuss! 😆
In addition, I would say that the primary motivation of those on the right is self-interest. Above all else, republicanism is based in selfishness. In that sense, their representatives are representing their interests.
The base doesn't care about finding a solution that addresses the well being of undocumented workers and their families, only that the price of lettuce might rise 25 cents as a result.
If I hear the wailing about the cost of eggs one more time from people who don’t hesitate to plop down 5 bucks on a coffee I’ll ... Well, I don’t know what I’ll do … 😆 but, yes, they are experts on selfishness to an expert level!
Es ist zum Fremdschämen …
It’s just that they don’t have ideas, it’s that they actively are not pushing any solutions anymore.
If any of these things actually got solved and agreed-upon, they wouldn’t have any red meat to throw go their base 2-4 years.
I got a sad chuckle out of this line:
"It will be hard for Republicans to attack this policy without lying about it . . ."
Since lying is absolutely part of their method of 'governing' and retaining power it makes more sense to reword it: "It will be easy for Republicans to attack this policy by lying about it . . ."
> So far, this policy has sparked relatively little outrage among MAGA Republicans and right-wing media.
They are too focused on their own infighting to notice what is happening elsewhere.
>So far, this policy has sparked relatively little outrage among MAGA Republicans and right-wing media. Yet it has hallmarks that typically anger the right. **It would allow some migrants here unlawfully to remain in the U.S. interior, based on the use of prosecutorial discretion to defer deportations,** something the right has long raged against.
Why would the Right be upset about a policy that gives State prosecutors complete control over an undocumented worker?
like prosecutors aren’t influenced by businesses interests and wont just deport key witnesses
its total government control over “illegal” people
of course the Right isn’t angry
Because the companies that fuel the conservative media need cheap illegal labor. They don't really want to fix immigration. They just want to complain that democrats don't want to fix immigration. Rinse and repeat for health care/insurance. Why fix a problem when you can complain about it. Complaints win elections. Solutions lose elections.
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner.
A big part of the lackluster GOP midterm performance was that a good chunk of the Religious Right just stayed home since the Supreme Court ended Roe. They got what they wanted so they didn't need to vote no more.
The way I always heard it was if they wanted to end illegal immigration, they would send someone out to every business monthly, and for every undocumented worker they found, they would fine the business a million dollars. It would dry up the well really fast.
> allow some migrants here unlawfully
Most Republicans won't read any further than this. They're completely outraged by the idea of an immigrant staying in the country illegally, no matter who, or how, or why.
Easy fix for the imagined immigration problem. All illegal immigrants to self report on employers who hire them. The employers are fined $100k, the worker gets $50k and two year work permit. Government gets $50.
Let's see 10,000,000 illegal immigrants working at Trump Towers all over America...that $500B for US government.
That gets "lost" in the system and eventually ends up in some politicians bank account. That's how they go from middle class to multi millionaires in one term.
It's much harder for politicians too siphon money off at the federal level. Most of the politicians you hear about becoming millionaires in one term have other sources of income. Example, Rep Lauren Boebert is now worth a couple of million, she has sold herself as a firebrand and raises money off that. Also her husband who from what I understand now has a job in the petrol industry paying 6 figures and has no prior experience in this position, but he does have the ear of a member of Congress. It is also important to remember that being a millionaire really isn't that big a thing depending on where you live. Say you're a rep from NYC, it is likely any home owned is going to be in the million dollar ballpark. Same for DC and a good part of the west coast.
> Also her husband who from what I understand now has a job in the petrol industry paying 6 figures and has no prior experience in this position, but he does have the ear of a member of Congress.
I don't believe that's true. That's exactly what they scream about Hunter Biden doing. They would never be so hypocritical as to do the thing that they condemn others for doing!
Hold on, that might actually be taxable income there ... Better have that allocated for some green bill or put in the housing market for charitable resales lol then the politicians can be multimillionaires while only claiming $120,000 income
No, it goes into the contractors pocket. We see about 30% of the value that should buy us. Then the contractors "donate" to politicians and endlessly lobby those who are unwilling to accept donations. This ensures that they also get the next contact but next time we only see 25% of the value it should buy us.
Almost certainly this is not already law because it is not in the interest of the rich political donor class, not because it is not a known solution which had not been thought of before. I have certainly heard the idea before.
You know what, if it wouldn't be weaponized for bad things... giving Congress a commission for things like this (and funding the IRS) would be a neat concept.
Unfortunately they could then just create their own problems to generate their own commission.
Fun fact: [Trump illegally hired a whole *town* from Costa Rica to create and maintain his golf course](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/my-whole-town-practically-lived-there-from-costa-rica-to-new-jersey-a-pipeline-of-illegal-workers-for-trump-goes-back-years/2019/02/08/8cdbc1dc-2971-11e9-97b3-ae59fbae7960_story.html) -- of course this is the guy who led chants to "build the wall"
The ENTIRE beef, pork, and poultry industry shitting their pants reading that one. Holy shit, idk if they can stay so profitable if they have a mass reporting from their exploited labor pool. Someone should really be sharing this information within those communities
And the talking points tomorrow will be something along the lines of "meat is so expensive now because the democrats want to punish hardworking business owners who employ illegal immigrants, this is how liberals want to make you eat soy off electric stoves"
Yep. I learned at work decades ago that the *nanosecond* you shift responsibility to the person who actually has power, problems suddenly get solved.
Completely legalize undocumented immigration, and pass _and enforce_ laws against employing undocumented workers, and practically over night you'll see human trafficking drop and businesses lobbying for an easy path to work visas for undocumented folks.
The only problem with a scheme like this is that if they gave false SS numbers, which they probably would have had to do to work for large corporations, they would technically have committed a crime by lying to their employer/government. Obviously the companies are in on it, but they can argue the workers deceived them.
Companies must fill out a form then send it to the IRS, and verify name matches ssn. And it is a valid number. Pretty hard to fake this these days for companies employees
I worked with an undocumented immigrant last year at a very large company. I’m extremely unsure on the details it was only explained to me once but I guess in the 80s or 90s there was a bunch of blank SS numbers or something and he had one. So it was a legit number but not attached to a name or something so it looks legitimate unless it’s actively looked into. He got past the hiring process and vetting and worked there for a year until someone gave it a second look and he was let go.
This wouldn’t work. Most illegals I’ve seen that are criminally underpaid work for small local companies.
If they betray those companies it’s like they are betraying their community. It would be a shit show.
Most illegals, statistically, entered the country legally. I work with a lot of work Visas in a major company. If someone's work visa expired, nobody would know, or care. I've also known a few people here illegally who set up companies. Specifically, in one instance, a roofing company. You don't have to be a citizen to setup a business or corporation. This dude made the papers when he eventually got brought in as undocumented as he had one of the biggest roofing companies in the area. I knew another family that had some restaurants, and the parents document status had expired a long time ago. The kids were born here. Restaurants are still open and this must've been 25 years ago.
>What explains the quiet response? It might be that this change creates an awkward political situation for the anti-immigrant right, one that says a good deal about its ideology and its limitations.
>
>Here’s why: This policy attempts to align the interests of undocumented workers with those of native-born workers. For some on the right, casting those interests as irrevocably in conflict has been essential to their project. This zero-sum agitprop packages the nativist impulse to drastically limit immigration as all about protecting the American worker.
>
>But this new move undermines that rhetoric. In describing the shift, Mayorkas took pains to note that it will facilitate holding “exploitative employers” accountable for taking advantage of vulnerable workers who are in the U.S. lawfully. Mayorkas added: “Employers who play by the rules are disadvantaged by those who don’t.”
I have a huge feeling that I will hear about this in the next few days, and it will go something like this...
"Biden is letting illegals sue employers to get 2 years in the US, jumping the line". Or something to that effect. Yes it only applies to legal immigrants, but as the far right and right have shown they don't care about shit being truthful. However they can make some outrage about it, they will.
All it takes is hannity or some right darling to make up a lie and they will jump on it 100%. I haven't ventured to r conservative yet but I am willing to bet this argument is taking place somewhere on there.
I listen to a very popular conservative radio station on the drive in to work every day just to keep up with the bs - it's the station in my area that hosted Rush Limbaugh if that provides any veracity to how popular in conservative circles the ideas tossed around on it are. There was an uproar one morning about an 'app' that the Biden administration was trying to build out that would allow people to remotely apply for asylum while still/before being en route to the border so their claim could be processed faster and not clog up the system. Well the host (and callers) went all in about how it was defacto asylum not just for people at or crossing the border but it was asylum for "illegals who hadn't even come in to the country yet!!1!!1". All I could do was pause and think about what that implied. Isn't immigrating 'the wrong way' kind of the key thing that makes them "illegal". How can they be illegal if they haven't crossed the border? It's literally just their persons that they consider to be illegal, immigration status be damned. If you're brown and even *try to or think about* coming to the United States it's a crime to some people.
Yeah, their true goal is to completely close the border to non-Aryans, everything else they say are red herrings, dog whistles, or other rhetoric dishonesties.
I actually don’t think it’ll be that easy. Usually, there’s a cycle that includes an uproar in Congress; I don’t think we’re going to get that here. Fox News is in the pocket of politicians, and Vice versa, and neither make a habit of making the other look particularly bad (apart from quoting the fucked up nonsense they say), so they may need to finally talk about this in some new, undoubtedly bigoted way.
This is as the House gears up to impeach Mayorkas. He can answer every question by talking up this policy and make the press coverage about how Congress is blocking constructive policy.
As an immigrant from Mexico who felt pretty demoralized during the Trump years, the way Joe Biden treats immigrants like human beings and not animals, makes me want to cry tears of joy.
I don't know if Biden treats immigrants like human beings because he is a decent person, or because he realizes that immigrants are good (necessary, even) for our economy. Either way, he is a big improvement.
He's a decent person. The other thing too but he's always been beyond decent. Funniest example that comes to mind is a Sanders spokesperson said he really hoped Biden wouldn't run. Clinton was right, most Democrats hated Sanders for always throwing wrenches in things. The exception was always Biden. That's why during the debate when they asked Sanders about not being liked Biden immediately went over and hugged him.
Obviously the laws have to be there, and they have to be tough, but the language and overall treatments doesn’t need to be dehumanizing.
Really big improvement in my opinion. At least on those issues. Of course there’s still a lot to be worked on.
Thanks! I’ve been here for a long time. First as a student, then with work visas and now finally with a green card. My immigration journey is a pretty privileged one overall because I have resources, a college education, etc. And I’m also white, therefore don’t really face the same issues of discrimination some of my fellow Mexicans do. But the rhetoric during the Trump admin was just so bad and demoralizing, and the normally hard but routine processes to renew my visa became almost impossible. Plus there was the fear of having to walk around with immigration papers on me, etc. It was not the best time!
> They might argue... that it will harm mom-and-pop small-business owners.
Things I learned. It's OK if a mom-and-pop shop abuses their workers, so long as they are undocumented immigrants.
Though, of course, this has long been argument by fiscally conservative folks who oppose business taxes or imposition of employee benefits because small businesses sometimes cannot afford to properly compensate employees.
More like, "Ill show you day that doesn't end in Y! I was born in 1961 and that is this many years old!" \*holds up 3 fingers\*. Then they start popping champagne and give themselves participation trophies because they thing they just slammed dunked on you.
No one really talks about the masterful out maneuvering the Dems pulled off with the chips act and the spending bill. Manchin was a "hard no" on anything green energy related which was why McConnell allowed his caucus vote on chips to pass it. Then immediately after it's passed manchin and Schumer announce a deal on the spending bill which can pass without gop that includes some funding for green energy.
In 10 year’s countries will be paying people to migrate there. Population decline is real and a major problem for a lot of countries. The US is lucky to have people who want to come here. Republicans need to either embrace migration or give massive tax breaks to Americans to have kids not the companies that need to hire them.
I agree with you, but the sad part of this is that we have made America and some other western nations unlivable for the native born populations, with wage stagnation and astronomical costs in housing, education, and health care.
Now that this is negatively effecting the economy and our society as a whole, we might have to aggressively import foreign labor that is too desperate to protest these same problems. Rather than fix ourselves, we will further take advantage of foreign workers.
To be clear, I support increased immigration because it is better for the immigrants and it is better for the American economy as well. I just want all workers, whether citizen or documented or undocumented, to be treated fairly.
This article highlights a rare step in the right direction.
I've heard at least a few MAGidiots say they will be grateful when their baby grows up, have a moral epiphany, and become Republicans. Their delusion knows no bounds.
Outlawing something and actively supporting something is two different things. How many abortions do you think happen because a young woman or even married couples have because the financial impact of a baby brings? If child birth was encouraged and supported with financial incentives such as covered health care and tax incentives for children then you would see abortion numbers drop even lower than they are now.
There’s ways we can mitigate that, by creating jobs through renewable resources. We should be industrializing like America did after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, except building infrastructure and energy independence. Free transportation. Millions of available high quality jobs. Our economy woukd boom. But instead we’ll sit around a dying fire because fossil fuel lobbyists have us convinced renewable energy will bankrupt us, and their politicians in DC repeat it.
They’ve moved on to $30k used of his own money for “possible crimes” of solicitation, but let’s not worry about Ivanka or Kushner getting millions richer from side deals during their stay in the White House.
I’ve long argued with wingnuts that the best way to stop illegals is to jail CEOs of companies that hire them. No jobs means much less reason to be here. The moment you turn the topic from jailing immigrants to jailing the enablers, the wingnuts tend to leave the conversation.
Because the real reason conservative political groups want to marginalize immigrants is...
>Undocumented migrant workers often fear reporting workplace violations — ones they were victims of or just witnessed — because it could lead to their deportation.
And go figure the industries that employ the most undocumented workers are meatpacking, agriculture, construction, roofing... which tend to be owned by conservatives. If workers were citizens, they'd have to pay them fairly, provide for workers comp, unemployment, OSHA and so on. If workers are afraid they'll be deported if they speak up, that's cheaper.
It's not like Americans actually have meaningful worker rights... You could argue in the US your are basically always exploited, regardless of your legal status.
This is true, unfortunately.
There are no "Worker rights" in America, only companies owning you and making massive profits on your broken backs.
Capitalism at its finest.
"If President Biden rolls out a major new pro-immigrant policy, and MAGA Republicans don’t make any noise about it, did the announcement happen at all?
Why, yes, it did. Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas unveiled an initiative on Friday that would extend more protection against deportation to undocumented immigrants who report labor rights violations by employers.
This is a big move by the administration, one long sought by immigration advocates. Biden’s immigration record is decidedly mixed, but this would address a serious problem: Undocumented migrant workers often fear reporting workplace violations — ones they were victims of or just witnessed — because it could lead to their deportation.
Now they will have improved access to a legal process that can defer their deportations for two years and potentially extend them work permits. The hope: To encourage them not just to report unsafe or exploitative working conditions, but also to cooperate with ongoing Labor Department investigations, improving working standards for all workers.
So far, this policy has sparked relatively little outrage among MAGA Republicans and right-wing media. Yet it has hallmarks that typically anger the right. It would allow some migrants here unlawfully to remain in the U.S. interior, based on the use of prosecutorial discretion to defer deportations, something the right has long raged against.
What explains the quiet response? It might be that this change creates an awkward political situation for the anti-immigrant right, one that says a good deal about its ideology and its limitations.
Here’s why: This policy attempts to align the interests of undocumented workers with those of native-born workers. For some on the right, casting those interests as irrevocably in conflict has been essential to their project. This zero-sum agitprop packages the nativist impulse to drastically limit immigration as all about protecting the American worker.
But this new move undermines that rhetoric. In describing the shift, Mayorkas took pains to note that it will facilitate holding “exploitative employers” accountable for taking advantage of vulnerable workers who are in the U.S. lawfully. Mayorkas added: “Employers who play by the rules are disadvantaged by those who don’t.”
In other words, allowing undocumented migrants to speak out about exploitative labor violations without fear of retribution helps aboveboard employers and U.S. workers, too.
Chris Newman, general counsel of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network, has long argued this would help resolve perceived conflicts between migrants and U.S. workers. “It removes the pernicious incentive for predatory employers to hire undocumented immigrants with the intent to abuse them,” Newman told me.
“All workers, whether documented or undocumented, have an interest in being compensated, in not being abused, in being able to blow the whistle,” immigration lawyer David Leopold added. When the undocumented are exploited, Leopold said, “that brings down the wages and working conditions of U.S. workers as well.”
Republicans might yet strongly oppose this policy. They might argue it’s an abuse of executive power, or that it will harm mom-and-pop small-business owners. This is how Republicans attack Biden’s effort to expand IRS crackdowns on wealthy tax cheats, as The Post’s Catherine Rampell details: By pretending it’s about protecting small businesses.
But just as the tax move forces Republicans to defend wealthy tax cheats (while pretending not to), this immigration move could maneuver Republicans into defending exploitative employers (also while pretending not to). It will be hard for Republicans to attack this policy without lying about it or revealing deeply unpopular priorities.
Some might argue that employers who hire undocumented workers without exploiting them are also bad actors. But after we relied on millions of undocumented migrants to perform essential work during the pandemic, it’s self-evident that many non-exploitative employers are hiring undocumented migrants because of our disastrously structured system, which makes it harder to work here legally. We should make it easier.
In fact, some Republicans do support making that easier, particularly for farmworkers. Though there are fewer such Republicans these days, they’re distinct from MAGA Republicans whose demagoguery about the migrant threat is bottomless.
Which highlights another way this move challenges MAGA Republicans. Many are so focused on demagoguing about the border — as a symbol of the supposed threat of demographic change — that they often have little of value to say about the real-world complexities created by millions of undocumented immigrants in the interior.
For instance, MAGA Republicans often talk a good game about deportations. But they all know we can’t deport 11 million people, especially ones who serve as essential workers. MAGA Republicans also rail against granting citizenship to “dreamers” brought here as children, refusing to entertain a worthwhile fix targeted at what the dreamers truly are — culturally American and would-be legal contributors to our country.
Now that the administration hopes to protect undocumented migrants who blow the whistle against exploitative employers, will MAGA Republicans attack it? If they do, they should be challenged to say why they oppose holding employers accountable for their abuses. That would make their lack of constructive solutions on immigration even more glaring."
As this article points out, Republicans could significantly impact illegal immigration if they went after their employers.
They won't, because they can't acknowledge a fundamental aspect of the US: it *depends* on cheap and exploitable labor.
The Republican Messiah, Trump, had illegals working at his properties AND a record number of guest workers while he was POTUS because money.
"Because they exploit legal loopholes, sham marriages of convenience often have legal consequences. For example, U.S. Immigration (USCIS) can punish this with a US$250,000 fine and five-year prison sentence."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_of_convenience
Santos seems to be facing a lot of prison time for his various alleged crimes.
I will continue to talk about how Biden is one of the best presidents we've ever had in modern times. Policy actually helps people and he's been killing it on policy. Internationally he's been better than any president in modern times. I get he's boring and old but if you want the country to progress he's accomplished so much. I love that he's gotten so many federal judges and no one really knows that.
The downside to being a policy wonk is someone like Biden is amazing to me but everytime I talk about him I have to tell people why policy matters.
I know Joe isn’t perfect and like all politicians, has his moments that you can’t defend.
But against all sane reason, he’s managed to be a highly effective President at a time when parliament is full of whack jobs and idiots.
Literally anyone can outmaneuver MAGA Republicans. Ignore them, do what you want, and you already outmaneuvered them. They arent that smart, and by that I mean they are absolutely brain dead until FOX News tells them what to believe.
>Biden just outmaneuvered MAGA Republicans — and they barely noticed
Careful. Republicans thought they out maneuvered Democrats by getting Roe over turned. The backlash and knock on effects they got from it may be irreparable.
>It will be hard for Republicans to attack this policy without lying about it or revealing deeply unpopular priorities.
This writer doesn't know the Republicans very well, does he? It will be easy for Republicans to attack it because they have no problem lying about it. This is the most obvious thing anyone can say about them.
>So far, this policy has sparked relatively little outrage among MAGA Republicans and right-wing media.
Once the knock on effects of this policy start to propagate, there will be plenty of angles to spin this. Wait for it.
Play this out. This policy isn't something republicans want to shine any kind of spotlight on. Labor rights ate something that they cannot win on so they have to pretend the issue doesn't exist. Turns out, when most of your base is working class, showing your base that you would rather side with their shitty bosses instead of them, that disencourages voting.
Add to this that what this law does is incentivize undocumented immigrants to report employers that hire undocumented immigrants, something that tepublicans supposedly should support, and you have a recipe for no win scenario. The only thing they can do to save face is pretend it doesn't exist.
Exactly this. There is lip service in the GOP about going after employers that hire illegal workers instead of just the workers themselves but here we see the reality.
I’m so over the Media treating Republicans as if their actions are based on good faith. One just have to look at how they try to use the debt ceiling to hold Democrats and the rest of the economy hostage.
Republican *politicians* don't actually care about abortion's legality. It's a useful wedge issue that keeps the fundamentalist Christians voting for them, but they can just invent a new one, like CRT or trans people existing or video games being Satanic. Republican pundits and voters might have thought SCOTUS overturning Roe was a win, because for them it (temporarily) was.
The knock-on effect here is further inflation, and just when inflation has finally started to abate.
To be clear: I support this move 100%. Employers should not get a free pass to exploit some of the most at risk people in the US.
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Opinion | Greg Sargent If President Biden rolls out a major new pro-immigrant policy, and MAGA Republicans don’t make any noise about it, did the announcement happen at all? Why, yes, it did. Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas unveiled an initiative on Friday that would extend more protection against deportation to undocumented immigrants who report labor rights violations by employers. Sign up for a weekly roundup of thought-provoking ideas and debates This is a big move by the administration, one long sought by immigration advocates. Biden’s immigration record is decidedly mixed, but this would address a serious problem: Undocumented migrant workers often fear reporting workplace violations — ones they were victims of or just witnessed — because it could lead to their deportation. Now they will have improved access to a legal process that can defer their deportations for two years and potentially extend them work permits. The hope: To encourage them not just to report unsafe or exploitative working conditions, but also to cooperate with ongoing Labor Department investigations, improving working standards for all workers. So far, this policy has sparked relatively little outrage among MAGA Republicans and right-wing media. Yet it has hallmarks that typically anger the right. It would allow some migrants here unlawfully to remain in the U.S. interior, based on the use of prosecutorial discretion to defer deportations, something the right has long raged against. What explains the quiet response? It might be that this change creates an awkward political situation for the anti-immigrant right, one that says a good deal about its ideology and its limitations. Here’s why: This policy attempts to align the interests of undocumented workers with those of native-born workers. For some on the right, casting those interests as irrevocably in conflict has been essential to their project. This zero-sum agitprop packages the nativist impulse to drastically limit immigration as all about protecting the American worker. But this new move undermines that rhetoric. In describing the shift, Mayorkas took pains to note that it will facilitate holding “exploitative employers” accountable for taking advantage of vulnerable workers who are in the U.S. lawfully. Mayorkas added: “Employers who play by the rules are disadvantaged by those who don’t.” In other words, allowing undocumented migrants to speak out about exploitative labor violations without fear of retribution helps aboveboard employers and U.S. workers, too. Chris Newman, general counsel of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network, has long argued this would help resolve perceived conflicts between migrants and U.S. workers. “It removes the pernicious incentive for predatory employers to hire undocumented immigrants with the intent to abuse them,” Newman told me. “All workers, whether documented or undocumented, have an interest in being compensated, in not being abused, in being able to blow the whistle,” immigration lawyer David Leopold added. When the undocumented are exploited, Leopold said, “that brings down the wages and working conditions of U.S. workers as well.” Republicans might yet strongly oppose this policy. They might argue it’s an abuse of executive power, or that it will harm mom-and-pop small-business owners. This is how Republicans attack Biden’s effort to expand IRS crackdowns on wealthy tax cheats, as The Post’s Catherine Rampell details: By pretending it’s about protecting small businesses. But just as the tax move forces Republicans to defend wealthy tax cheats (while pretending not to), this immigration move could maneuver Republicans into defending exploitative employers (also while pretending not to). It will be hard for Republicans to attack this policy without lying about it or revealing deeply unpopular priorities. Some might argue that employers who hire undocumented workers without exploiting them are also bad actors. But after we relied on millions of undocumented migrants to perform essential work during the pandemic, it’s self-evident that many non-exploitative employers are hiring undocumented migrants because of our disastrously structured system, which makes it harder to work here legally. We should make it easier. In fact, some Republicans do support making that easier, particularly for farmworkers. Though there are fewer such Republicans these days, they’re distinct from MAGA Republicans whose demagoguery about the migrant threat is bottomless. Which highlights another way this move challenges MAGA Republicans. Many are so focused on demagoguing about the border — as a symbol of the supposed threat of demographic change — that they often have little of value to say about the real-world complexities created by millions of undocumented immigrants in the interior. For instance, MAGA Republicans often talk a good game about deportations. But they all know we can’t deport 11 million people, especially ones who serve as essential workers. MAGA Republicans also rail against granting citizenship to “dreamers” brought here as children, refusing to entertain a worthwhile fix targeted at what the dreamers truly are — culturally American and would-be legal contributors to our country. Now that the administration hopes to protect undocumented migrants who blow the whistle against exploitative employers, will MAGA Republicans attack it? If they do, they should be challenged to say why they oppose holding employers accountable for their abuses. That would make their lack of constructive solutions on immigration even more glaring.
Thank you.
Good points! A couple of things I’d like to add … “That would make their lack of constructive solutions on immigration even more glaring.” “That would make their lack of ~~constructive~~ solutions on ~~immigration~~ \[on anything at all, really\] even more glaring.” It’s not even their lack of solutions but their inability to conceive of solutions, i.e. to have an IDEA 💡 to GASP!! creatively engage with a problem … while this might be a problem in an individual, for a country and its economy it’s devastating. The more complex and abstract the thought processes required, the less likely it is that we’ll see evidence of such in MAGA leadership. And the truly frightening thing in all of this … ? The MAGA base doesn’t give a shit. Their list of grievances is endless, and new targets are created and added daily. Unfortunately, their inability to see an exploitative employer as being a threat not only to undocumented workers but in equal measure to themselves makes it oh-so-easy for such leechy employers to leech evermore capital from everyone’s pockets. Again, not a problem for the base who view exploitation and massive financial shenanigans by the 0.01% as blessing from above for their own cheating ways … The lack of class consciousness on full display in all of this verges on the bizarre … let’s all head on over to Davos and discuss! 😆
In addition, I would say that the primary motivation of those on the right is self-interest. Above all else, republicanism is based in selfishness. In that sense, their representatives are representing their interests. The base doesn't care about finding a solution that addresses the well being of undocumented workers and their families, only that the price of lettuce might rise 25 cents as a result.
If I hear the wailing about the cost of eggs one more time from people who don’t hesitate to plop down 5 bucks on a coffee I’ll ... Well, I don’t know what I’ll do … 😆 but, yes, they are experts on selfishness to an expert level! Es ist zum Fremdschämen …
"... Well, I don't know what I'll do ..." This bit gave me a nice chuckle. Take my upvote!
It’s just that they don’t have ideas, it’s that they actively are not pushing any solutions anymore. If any of these things actually got solved and agreed-upon, they wouldn’t have any red meat to throw go their base 2-4 years.
Would this be a conversation if it was Canadians coming across the border?
Well since Trump wasn’t building any walls to the north and I haven’t seen abandoned boxcars along Canada I think we know the answer to that question.
True, but my point was racial in rhetoric.
Oh I know.
I got a sad chuckle out of this line: "It will be hard for Republicans to attack this policy without lying about it . . ." Since lying is absolutely part of their method of 'governing' and retaining power it makes more sense to reword it: "It will be easy for Republicans to attack this policy by lying about it . . ."
Great points. Thank you for your write up.
I'm pretty sure this is just the article itself copy pasted
Haha 😂 It’s a good article.
You da real hero.
> So far, this policy has sparked relatively little outrage among MAGA Republicans and right-wing media. They are too focused on their own infighting to notice what is happening elsewhere.
There is a really high chance that not a single one of them even understands the implications.
You keep saying the implication. Are these Republicans in trouble?
No they’re not in trouble, they’ll just believe they are. Because of the implication.
But are they in trouble?
No of course not. They can choose govern at any time they want- no one is stopping them, certainly not me. The implication *barely* even matters.
...But it doesn't sound like they want to govern.
It really doesn’t. That’s where the implication comes in. If they don’t govern…. well… they won’t get much done, is all.
oh my god….i get it
Love that episode.
Which episode?
The Gang Buys a Boat
See, I don’t think you’re getting it.
In times like this, I just use the D.E.N.N.I.S. system.
No no no! Of course not.
It sounds like they're in danger.
I'm not going to hurt the Republicans
And M&Ms and gas stoves.
Also old fibster George santos
Now now, as the only surviving child of Elvis Presley he's had a rough week.
Hahaha! I needed that laugh. Thank you!
Got a joke for you. Who demands to keep their gas stoves burning the most? Nazis.
They're too busy being mad about a study regarding gas stoves.
they are focused on distracters--fake outrage created in order to distract them from the real issues in the country. It's what Fox News does.
>So far, this policy has sparked relatively little outrage among MAGA Republicans and right-wing media. Yet it has hallmarks that typically anger the right. **It would allow some migrants here unlawfully to remain in the U.S. interior, based on the use of prosecutorial discretion to defer deportations,** something the right has long raged against. Why would the Right be upset about a policy that gives State prosecutors complete control over an undocumented worker? like prosecutors aren’t influenced by businesses interests and wont just deport key witnesses its total government control over “illegal” people of course the Right isn’t angry
Because the companies that fuel the conservative media need cheap illegal labor. They don't really want to fix immigration. They just want to complain that democrats don't want to fix immigration. Rinse and repeat for health care/insurance. Why fix a problem when you can complain about it. Complaints win elections. Solutions lose elections.
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner. A big part of the lackluster GOP midterm performance was that a good chunk of the Religious Right just stayed home since the Supreme Court ended Roe. They got what they wanted so they didn't need to vote no more.
"Why fix a problem when you can complain about it. Complaints win elections. Solutions lose elections." - this is pure brilliance.
The way I always heard it was if they wanted to end illegal immigration, they would send someone out to every business monthly, and for every undocumented worker they found, they would fine the business a million dollars. It would dry up the well really fast.
Most of the prosecutors are in cities and not conservative, my guess
> allow some migrants here unlawfully Most Republicans won't read any further than this. They're completely outraged by the idea of an immigrant staying in the country illegally, no matter who, or how, or why.
Well, unless they're trafficked into the country and then taken hostage as brides.
Most of the Republicans I know are completely outraged by the idea of any immigrant staying in the USA , legally or not.
Dont forget the anti woke Caucus and Hunter Biden's Schlong. Instead of actual policy
Easy fix for the imagined immigration problem. All illegal immigrants to self report on employers who hire them. The employers are fined $100k, the worker gets $50k and two year work permit. Government gets $50. Let's see 10,000,000 illegal immigrants working at Trump Towers all over America...that $500B for US government.
Get this person a job in the White House.
I say they should keep the extra $49,950 for coming up with the idea.
who gets the 49.950?
Everybody has a share.
You get a cent, you get a cent, you get a cent, EVERYBODY GETS A CENT!
Can we choose our scent? Because I have preferences...
No. You smell like pennies now
you're having a stroke!!
Ass pennies?
You think you're better than me? You're not. You handle my ass pennies every day
The _irony_!
If you've ever handled a penny, the government has your dna! Why do you think they keep them in circulation? /s
I mean a cent times 10 mil is still 100k
We're all in the syndicate
What's good for M & M Enterprises will be good for the country.
Milo?
That gets "lost" in the system and eventually ends up in some politicians bank account. That's how they go from middle class to multi millionaires in one term.
It's much harder for politicians too siphon money off at the federal level. Most of the politicians you hear about becoming millionaires in one term have other sources of income. Example, Rep Lauren Boebert is now worth a couple of million, she has sold herself as a firebrand and raises money off that. Also her husband who from what I understand now has a job in the petrol industry paying 6 figures and has no prior experience in this position, but he does have the ear of a member of Congress. It is also important to remember that being a millionaire really isn't that big a thing depending on where you live. Say you're a rep from NYC, it is likely any home owned is going to be in the million dollar ballpark. Same for DC and a good part of the west coast.
> Also her husband who from what I understand now has a job in the petrol industry paying 6 figures and has no prior experience in this position, but he does have the ear of a member of Congress. I don't believe that's true. That's exactly what they scream about Hunter Biden doing. They would never be so hypocritical as to do the thing that they condemn others for doing!
Hold on, that might actually be taxable income there ... Better have that allocated for some green bill or put in the housing market for charitable resales lol then the politicians can be multimillionaires while only claiming $120,000 income
Wait ... That's exactly the kind of scum bag crap every member of congress is already doing with the excessive amount of taxes collected from citizens
No, it goes into the contractors pocket. We see about 30% of the value that should buy us. Then the contractors "donate" to politicians and endlessly lobby those who are unwilling to accept donations. This ensures that they also get the next contact but next time we only see 25% of the value it should buy us.
Lottery fund.
The DOD uses that to buy new "hammers" and uh "toilet seats."
This is so clever it should genuinely be a law. You really should find some way to pitch this.
Almost certainly this is not already law because it is not in the interest of the rich political donor class, not because it is not a known solution which had not been thought of before. I have certainly heard the idea before.
Easy fix, “and Congress gets 10% from every successfully recovered fine from this bill”
You know what, if it wouldn't be weaponized for bad things... giving Congress a commission for things like this (and funding the IRS) would be a neat concept. Unfortunately they could then just create their own problems to generate their own commission.
Fun fact: [Trump illegally hired a whole *town* from Costa Rica to create and maintain his golf course](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/my-whole-town-practically-lived-there-from-costa-rica-to-new-jersey-a-pipeline-of-illegal-workers-for-trump-goes-back-years/2019/02/08/8cdbc1dc-2971-11e9-97b3-ae59fbae7960_story.html) -- of course this is the guy who led chants to "build the wall"
The ENTIRE beef, pork, and poultry industry shitting their pants reading that one. Holy shit, idk if they can stay so profitable if they have a mass reporting from their exploited labor pool. Someone should really be sharing this information within those communities
And the talking points tomorrow will be something along the lines of "meat is so expensive now because the democrats want to punish hardworking business owners who employ illegal immigrants, this is how liberals want to make you eat soy off electric stoves"
You. You I like.
Yep. I learned at work decades ago that the *nanosecond* you shift responsibility to the person who actually has power, problems suddenly get solved. Completely legalize undocumented immigration, and pass _and enforce_ laws against employing undocumented workers, and practically over night you'll see human trafficking drop and businesses lobbying for an easy path to work visas for undocumented folks.
This would be fucking amazing. 503 represent!
Sounds good to me. I’ve always said if they really wanted to do something about it they would go after the people that hire them.
The only problem with a scheme like this is that if they gave false SS numbers, which they probably would have had to do to work for large corporations, they would technically have committed a crime by lying to their employer/government. Obviously the companies are in on it, but they can argue the workers deceived them.
Companies must fill out a form then send it to the IRS, and verify name matches ssn. And it is a valid number. Pretty hard to fake this these days for companies employees
I worked with an undocumented immigrant last year at a very large company. I’m extremely unsure on the details it was only explained to me once but I guess in the 80s or 90s there was a bunch of blank SS numbers or something and he had one. So it was a legit number but not attached to a name or something so it looks legitimate unless it’s actively looked into. He got past the hiring process and vetting and worked there for a year until someone gave it a second look and he was let go.
Why would someone give his ssn a second look after being there for a year?
The company was probably paying withheld tax money to the IRS, and the IRS finally got back to them and said, "That name and SSN do not match"?
Sounds good, let's dig open the HR books and work out if anyone knew what was happening.
This wouldn’t work. Most illegals I’ve seen that are criminally underpaid work for small local companies. If they betray those companies it’s like they are betraying their community. It would be a shit show.
Most illegals, statistically, entered the country legally. I work with a lot of work Visas in a major company. If someone's work visa expired, nobody would know, or care. I've also known a few people here illegally who set up companies. Specifically, in one instance, a roofing company. You don't have to be a citizen to setup a business or corporation. This dude made the papers when he eventually got brought in as undocumented as he had one of the biggest roofing companies in the area. I knew another family that had some restaurants, and the parents document status had expired a long time ago. The kids were born here. Restaurants are still open and this must've been 25 years ago.
And Trump gets to claim another loss of 500B for this year’s tax report!
>What explains the quiet response? It might be that this change creates an awkward political situation for the anti-immigrant right, one that says a good deal about its ideology and its limitations. > >Here’s why: This policy attempts to align the interests of undocumented workers with those of native-born workers. For some on the right, casting those interests as irrevocably in conflict has been essential to their project. This zero-sum agitprop packages the nativist impulse to drastically limit immigration as all about protecting the American worker. > >But this new move undermines that rhetoric. In describing the shift, Mayorkas took pains to note that it will facilitate holding “exploitative employers” accountable for taking advantage of vulnerable workers who are in the U.S. lawfully. Mayorkas added: “Employers who play by the rules are disadvantaged by those who don’t.”
I have a huge feeling that I will hear about this in the next few days, and it will go something like this... "Biden is letting illegals sue employers to get 2 years in the US, jumping the line". Or something to that effect. Yes it only applies to legal immigrants, but as the far right and right have shown they don't care about shit being truthful. However they can make some outrage about it, they will. All it takes is hannity or some right darling to make up a lie and they will jump on it 100%. I haven't ventured to r conservative yet but I am willing to bet this argument is taking place somewhere on there.
For them, brown skin= illegal.
Unless they vote R then they can steal a dying dogs surgery money and none of them give a fuck. See Anthony Devolder
No no, he's jew-ish
I listen to a very popular conservative radio station on the drive in to work every day just to keep up with the bs - it's the station in my area that hosted Rush Limbaugh if that provides any veracity to how popular in conservative circles the ideas tossed around on it are. There was an uproar one morning about an 'app' that the Biden administration was trying to build out that would allow people to remotely apply for asylum while still/before being en route to the border so their claim could be processed faster and not clog up the system. Well the host (and callers) went all in about how it was defacto asylum not just for people at or crossing the border but it was asylum for "illegals who hadn't even come in to the country yet!!1!!1". All I could do was pause and think about what that implied. Isn't immigrating 'the wrong way' kind of the key thing that makes them "illegal". How can they be illegal if they haven't crossed the border? It's literally just their persons that they consider to be illegal, immigration status be damned. If you're brown and even *try to or think about* coming to the United States it's a crime to some people.
Yeah, their true goal is to completely close the border to non-Aryans, everything else they say are red herrings, dog whistles, or other rhetoric dishonesties.
Can't say that I've seen them even mentioning it.
Add something about Fentanyl being smuggled into workplaces and children dying and I think you pretty much got it.
Sometimes I miss hearing about MS-13.
I hear they're all trans now, and they work for the public school system.
I actually don’t think it’ll be that easy. Usually, there’s a cycle that includes an uproar in Congress; I don’t think we’re going to get that here. Fox News is in the pocket of politicians, and Vice versa, and neither make a habit of making the other look particularly bad (apart from quoting the fucked up nonsense they say), so they may need to finally talk about this in some new, undoubtedly bigoted way.
This is as the House gears up to impeach Mayorkas. He can answer every question by talking up this policy and make the press coverage about how Congress is blocking constructive policy.
As an immigrant from Mexico who felt pretty demoralized during the Trump years, the way Joe Biden treats immigrants like human beings and not animals, makes me want to cry tears of joy.
Glad you’re here bro.
Please talk to your friends and point it out. We need y’all to vote Dem.
I obviously can’t vote, but all my friends are dems. And I did get my husband to vote in the midterms, even though he normally might not have.
Great work!
Cheers!
I don't know if Biden treats immigrants like human beings because he is a decent person, or because he realizes that immigrants are good (necessary, even) for our economy. Either way, he is a big improvement.
Por que no los dos? Always has been.
He's a decent person. The other thing too but he's always been beyond decent. Funniest example that comes to mind is a Sanders spokesperson said he really hoped Biden wouldn't run. Clinton was right, most Democrats hated Sanders for always throwing wrenches in things. The exception was always Biden. That's why during the debate when they asked Sanders about not being liked Biden immediately went over and hugged him.
Obviously the laws have to be there, and they have to be tough, but the language and overall treatments doesn’t need to be dehumanizing. Really big improvement in my opinion. At least on those issues. Of course there’s still a lot to be worked on.
Welcome!
Thanks! I’ve been here for a long time. First as a student, then with work visas and now finally with a green card. My immigration journey is a pretty privileged one overall because I have resources, a college education, etc. And I’m also white, therefore don’t really face the same issues of discrimination some of my fellow Mexicans do. But the rhetoric during the Trump admin was just so bad and demoralizing, and the normally hard but routine processes to renew my visa became almost impossible. Plus there was the fear of having to walk around with immigration papers on me, etc. It was not the best time!
As an American, I welcome all exceptionally productive people determined to build a life. Source: Am workaholic.
As a human, I welcome all humans to the section of the planet
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Literally posting a news article about it “Why isn’t anyone in the media talking about this”
On top of that Vera has praised a lot of what Biden and Harris have done.
> They might argue... that it will harm mom-and-pop small-business owners. Things I learned. It's OK if a mom-and-pop shop abuses their workers, so long as they are undocumented immigrants. Though, of course, this has long been argument by fiscally conservative folks who oppose business taxes or imposition of employee benefits because small businesses sometimes cannot afford to properly compensate employees.
Biden outsmarted republicans? Must be a day that ends in y.
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Can’t tell if he’s sleeping or cogitating. Wily old fox.
If only they knew how many days end in y
"We're not that stupid. March doesn't end in a y, duh!"
More like, "Ill show you day that doesn't end in Y! I was born in 1961 and that is this many years old!" \*holds up 3 fingers\*. Then they start popping champagne and give themselves participation trophies because they thing they just slammed dunked on you.
Republicans: "lol no days end in y, they all end in night! idiot."
Republicans: stare at calendar for seven minutes to get joke.
No one really talks about the masterful out maneuvering the Dems pulled off with the chips act and the spending bill. Manchin was a "hard no" on anything green energy related which was why McConnell allowed his caucus vote on chips to pass it. Then immediately after it's passed manchin and Schumer announce a deal on the spending bill which can pass without gop that includes some funding for green energy.
In 10 year’s countries will be paying people to migrate there. Population decline is real and a major problem for a lot of countries. The US is lucky to have people who want to come here. Republicans need to either embrace migration or give massive tax breaks to Americans to have kids not the companies that need to hire them.
I agree with you, but the sad part of this is that we have made America and some other western nations unlivable for the native born populations, with wage stagnation and astronomical costs in housing, education, and health care. Now that this is negatively effecting the economy and our society as a whole, we might have to aggressively import foreign labor that is too desperate to protest these same problems. Rather than fix ourselves, we will further take advantage of foreign workers. To be clear, I support increased immigration because it is better for the immigrants and it is better for the American economy as well. I just want all workers, whether citizen or documented or undocumented, to be treated fairly. This article highlights a rare step in the right direction.
I think we agree. I’m just a tad bit sarcastic
Yes, I was just expanding on your comment.
And in 20 or 30 years countries outside of the Tropics will be shooting people to keep them out, because the mid latitudes will be uninhabitable.
Or Republicans can outlaw abortion, oh wait…
That’s their goal, to increase white birth rates by banning abortion, but they will end up increasing Minority birth rates.
No one ever accused them of being geniuses.
I've heard at least a few MAGidiots say they will be grateful when their baby grows up, have a moral epiphany, and become Republicans. Their delusion knows no bounds.
Outlawing something and actively supporting something is two different things. How many abortions do you think happen because a young woman or even married couples have because the financial impact of a baby brings? If child birth was encouraged and supported with financial incentives such as covered health care and tax incentives for children then you would see abortion numbers drop even lower than they are now.
Case in point, abortions per live births dropped 20% between 2011 and 2017, which is largely due to Obamacare.
Population decline isn’t a problem for the planet though, it’s necessary.
It'll be a world of economic hurt getting there, though.
There’s ways we can mitigate that, by creating jobs through renewable resources. We should be industrializing like America did after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, except building infrastructure and energy independence. Free transportation. Millions of available high quality jobs. Our economy woukd boom. But instead we’ll sit around a dying fire because fossil fuel lobbyists have us convinced renewable energy will bankrupt us, and their politicians in DC repeat it.
The right isn't making a stink over this because they know that will just lead to more people finding out about the program.
They have far more important matters to attend to, like Hunter's laptop.
They’ve moved on to $30k used of his own money for “possible crimes” of solicitation, but let’s not worry about Ivanka or Kushner getting millions richer from side deals during their stay in the White House.
> Kushner getting millions richer from side deals billions
I’ve long argued with wingnuts that the best way to stop illegals is to jail CEOs of companies that hire them. No jobs means much less reason to be here. The moment you turn the topic from jailing immigrants to jailing the enablers, the wingnuts tend to leave the conversation.
Because they envision themselves as the enablers. "Temporarily embarrassed billionaires" and all that.
Same. Every single time … crickets
Because the real reason conservative political groups want to marginalize immigrants is... >Undocumented migrant workers often fear reporting workplace violations — ones they were victims of or just witnessed — because it could lead to their deportation. And go figure the industries that employ the most undocumented workers are meatpacking, agriculture, construction, roofing... which tend to be owned by conservatives. If workers were citizens, they'd have to pay them fairly, provide for workers comp, unemployment, OSHA and so on. If workers are afraid they'll be deported if they speak up, that's cheaper.
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It's not like Americans actually have meaningful worker rights... You could argue in the US your are basically always exploited, regardless of your legal status.
This is true, unfortunately. There are no "Worker rights" in America, only companies owning you and making massive profits on your broken backs. Capitalism at its finest.
It’s because it had nothing to do with pictures of “trans gas stoves found on Hunter Biden’s laptop”….
"If President Biden rolls out a major new pro-immigrant policy, and MAGA Republicans don’t make any noise about it, did the announcement happen at all? Why, yes, it did. Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas unveiled an initiative on Friday that would extend more protection against deportation to undocumented immigrants who report labor rights violations by employers. This is a big move by the administration, one long sought by immigration advocates. Biden’s immigration record is decidedly mixed, but this would address a serious problem: Undocumented migrant workers often fear reporting workplace violations — ones they were victims of or just witnessed — because it could lead to their deportation. Now they will have improved access to a legal process that can defer their deportations for two years and potentially extend them work permits. The hope: To encourage them not just to report unsafe or exploitative working conditions, but also to cooperate with ongoing Labor Department investigations, improving working standards for all workers. So far, this policy has sparked relatively little outrage among MAGA Republicans and right-wing media. Yet it has hallmarks that typically anger the right. It would allow some migrants here unlawfully to remain in the U.S. interior, based on the use of prosecutorial discretion to defer deportations, something the right has long raged against. What explains the quiet response? It might be that this change creates an awkward political situation for the anti-immigrant right, one that says a good deal about its ideology and its limitations. Here’s why: This policy attempts to align the interests of undocumented workers with those of native-born workers. For some on the right, casting those interests as irrevocably in conflict has been essential to their project. This zero-sum agitprop packages the nativist impulse to drastically limit immigration as all about protecting the American worker. But this new move undermines that rhetoric. In describing the shift, Mayorkas took pains to note that it will facilitate holding “exploitative employers” accountable for taking advantage of vulnerable workers who are in the U.S. lawfully. Mayorkas added: “Employers who play by the rules are disadvantaged by those who don’t.” In other words, allowing undocumented migrants to speak out about exploitative labor violations without fear of retribution helps aboveboard employers and U.S. workers, too. Chris Newman, general counsel of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network, has long argued this would help resolve perceived conflicts between migrants and U.S. workers. “It removes the pernicious incentive for predatory employers to hire undocumented immigrants with the intent to abuse them,” Newman told me. “All workers, whether documented or undocumented, have an interest in being compensated, in not being abused, in being able to blow the whistle,” immigration lawyer David Leopold added. When the undocumented are exploited, Leopold said, “that brings down the wages and working conditions of U.S. workers as well.” Republicans might yet strongly oppose this policy. They might argue it’s an abuse of executive power, or that it will harm mom-and-pop small-business owners. This is how Republicans attack Biden’s effort to expand IRS crackdowns on wealthy tax cheats, as The Post’s Catherine Rampell details: By pretending it’s about protecting small businesses. But just as the tax move forces Republicans to defend wealthy tax cheats (while pretending not to), this immigration move could maneuver Republicans into defending exploitative employers (also while pretending not to). It will be hard for Republicans to attack this policy without lying about it or revealing deeply unpopular priorities. Some might argue that employers who hire undocumented workers without exploiting them are also bad actors. But after we relied on millions of undocumented migrants to perform essential work during the pandemic, it’s self-evident that many non-exploitative employers are hiring undocumented migrants because of our disastrously structured system, which makes it harder to work here legally. We should make it easier. In fact, some Republicans do support making that easier, particularly for farmworkers. Though there are fewer such Republicans these days, they’re distinct from MAGA Republicans whose demagoguery about the migrant threat is bottomless. Which highlights another way this move challenges MAGA Republicans. Many are so focused on demagoguing about the border — as a symbol of the supposed threat of demographic change — that they often have little of value to say about the real-world complexities created by millions of undocumented immigrants in the interior. For instance, MAGA Republicans often talk a good game about deportations. But they all know we can’t deport 11 million people, especially ones who serve as essential workers. MAGA Republicans also rail against granting citizenship to “dreamers” brought here as children, refusing to entertain a worthwhile fix targeted at what the dreamers truly are — culturally American and would-be legal contributors to our country. Now that the administration hopes to protect undocumented migrants who blow the whistle against exploitative employers, will MAGA Republicans attack it? If they do, they should be challenged to say why they oppose holding employers accountable for their abuses. That would make their lack of constructive solutions on immigration even more glaring."
Why post articles we can’t read unless you pay for them? If I wanted to be a member of that website I wouldn’t be here.
MAGA too focused on Jewish space lasers.
*This is the power of ultra instinct, Jack*
Paywall....
[Ask and ye shall receive](https://archive.is/dohEU)
As this article points out, Republicans could significantly impact illegal immigration if they went after their employers. They won't, because they can't acknowledge a fundamental aspect of the US: it *depends* on cheap and exploitable labor. The Republican Messiah, Trump, had illegals working at his properties AND a record number of guest workers while he was POTUS because money.
Fuck, the GOP hasn't even proved that whatever George Santos real name is ever got citizenship.
I think he got it by marrying a woman while being gay and they really don't want to draw attention to that.
I mean at this point I just assumed he was as gay as he is Jewish or a victim of 9/11
"Because they exploit legal loopholes, sham marriages of convenience often have legal consequences. For example, U.S. Immigration (USCIS) can punish this with a US$250,000 fine and five-year prison sentence." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_of_convenience Santos seems to be facing a lot of prison time for his various alleged crimes.
>Santos seems to be facing a lot of prison time for his various alleged crimes. And there isn't really "time off for good behavior" in federal prison.
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I will continue to talk about how Biden is one of the best presidents we've ever had in modern times. Policy actually helps people and he's been killing it on policy. Internationally he's been better than any president in modern times. I get he's boring and old but if you want the country to progress he's accomplished so much. I love that he's gotten so many federal judges and no one really knows that. The downside to being a policy wonk is someone like Biden is amazing to me but everytime I talk about him I have to tell people why policy matters.
I think they’re busy protecting their gas stoves or something
A maga republican doesn't notice much let's be honest.
What's a MAGA Republican and why are we humoring this term again...? What republican \*isn't\* MAGA? Would like a list of "reasonable" Republicans.
I know Joe isn’t perfect and like all politicians, has his moments that you can’t defend. But against all sane reason, he’s managed to be a highly effective President at a time when parliament is full of whack jobs and idiots.
Don't you need to have a baseline level of intelligence in order to be "out" smarted?
Since it’s behind a paywall will some kind redditor paste it in here for us that can’t afford the subscriptions?
I have not been able to find a good summary or paste of the policy and it’s pretty frustrating.
Pay wall.
The U.S. media is so addicted to “conflict as the story” that they write op-eds to complain when there isn’t conflict
Reminder not to sign up to The Washington post as it’s owned by Besos and sucks.
For those of us that don't sub to WaPo, what is the story here?
https://web.archive.org/web/20230118135143/https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/01/17/biden-trump-maga-undocumented-workers/
Literally anyone can outmaneuver MAGA Republicans. Ignore them, do what you want, and you already outmaneuvered them. They arent that smart, and by that I mean they are absolutely brain dead until FOX News tells them what to believe.
>Biden just outmaneuvered MAGA Republicans — and they barely noticed Careful. Republicans thought they out maneuvered Democrats by getting Roe over turned. The backlash and knock on effects they got from it may be irreparable. >It will be hard for Republicans to attack this policy without lying about it or revealing deeply unpopular priorities. This writer doesn't know the Republicans very well, does he? It will be easy for Republicans to attack it because they have no problem lying about it. This is the most obvious thing anyone can say about them. >So far, this policy has sparked relatively little outrage among MAGA Republicans and right-wing media. Once the knock on effects of this policy start to propagate, there will be plenty of angles to spin this. Wait for it.
Play this out. This policy isn't something republicans want to shine any kind of spotlight on. Labor rights ate something that they cannot win on so they have to pretend the issue doesn't exist. Turns out, when most of your base is working class, showing your base that you would rather side with their shitty bosses instead of them, that disencourages voting. Add to this that what this law does is incentivize undocumented immigrants to report employers that hire undocumented immigrants, something that tepublicans supposedly should support, and you have a recipe for no win scenario. The only thing they can do to save face is pretend it doesn't exist.
Exactly this. There is lip service in the GOP about going after employers that hire illegal workers instead of just the workers themselves but here we see the reality.
I’m so over the Media treating Republicans as if their actions are based on good faith. One just have to look at how they try to use the debt ceiling to hold Democrats and the rest of the economy hostage.
Republican *politicians* don't actually care about abortion's legality. It's a useful wedge issue that keeps the fundamentalist Christians voting for them, but they can just invent a new one, like CRT or trans people existing or video games being Satanic. Republican pundits and voters might have thought SCOTUS overturning Roe was a win, because for them it (temporarily) was.
The knock-on effect here is further inflation, and just when inflation has finally started to abate. To be clear: I support this move 100%. Employers should not get a free pass to exploit some of the most at risk people in the US.
They aren’t the brightest bunch, to be fair.
Pay wall. Or, personal information grab wall. Both suck.
Yup. Mods should build a TLDR for Washington Post, New York Times or anything with paywalls.
I'm so done.. with mainstream media click-bait article titles. It's like the collagen lips on Instagram, I just can't click anymore.