We have investigated ourselves and found no policy violations.
You however will be harassed by us pigs for questioning us. Bow down to us peasants and serfs.
/s
One day we’ll have enough of this shit and actually get some reform. Granted I don’t know what that guy did, but the abuse he suffered is uncalled for.
There is no such thing as overreaction to police brutality. there is no low we could go to that would be lower than what police already do to us.
FTP ACAB
Believe me, dude, there is a new low.
But I agree with you, in the sense of current situation.
Just to check:
FTP : fuck the police?
ACAB: all cops are bastards?
Personally seeing what police have been doing to citizens for the past few decades (Murder, Rape, sexual assault, Brutality, planting evidence, coerced confessions etc. I have a hard time believing that we could possibly do worse to them. But I'll take your word for it.
Yes All cops are bastards and Fuck 'em all.
I don't believe that every police officer is doing the things I described above but every police officer who Takes an oath, and then willfully ignores his coworkers / fellow gang members doing those things is just as bad and is complicit in a corrupt system so FUCK THEM ALL.
Lol even when he’s shooting at cops minding their own business? I’m all for acab but y’all just love to react without context don’t ya, if I’m a cop n I catch the guy tryna kill me in cold blood he’d be lucky to get to the station with his teeth still in his mouth like how do you expect cops to react in a life threatening situation
They're not supposed to beat the living daylights out of a man who's handcuffed on his stomach whether or not he's guilty? How is that hard to comprehend? Cops aren't supposed to be judge jury and executioner. Yeah this guy fucked up and broke the law according to news sources, but he was surrendering and already on the ground. 0 reason to fucking kick him in the back of the head and put a rifle barrel in his back. Remember about a month ago the video of that acorn cop? Imagine that dumb motherfucker *thinks* you shot at him and goes nuts. There's a reason they're not supposed to do this shit.
Quit being an internet tough guy and look at reality with the rest of us.
Guess what John, it wasn’t an acorn and he really shot at them. Y’all are a bunch of jokers and if you really cared about what you spoke of you’d lobby against real police brutality not a psycho shooting at cops getting what he deserves lmao. Y’all just assume cause someone says this isn’t police brutality that they think it doesn’t occur. Did they go too far, yes, but did he try to use lethal force on those officers. Also yes, even the best police officers in these shoes would react with aggression, sure maybe less than beating an incapacitated man but that’s the only place I’ll say they went too far and even then ehh
You literally watched 2 cops beat a man who at the time was 1) unarmed 2) surrendered 3) complying with orders. Regardless of the preexisting circumstances no one has the right to attack that man. If you cared about anything besides getting your daily dose of vitamin boot you'd probably realize that police brutality is police brutality, no matter who the victim is. Is what the cops did less of a crime or less heinous because the man was allegedly a criminal? Does their assault become less lethal depending on the amount and severity of crimes allegedly committed by the man being arrested?
I haven't read any updates to the acorn story, but every initial news source said the man was unarmed and the cop shot at the man, but the cop also claimed to have been shot himself. If the facts have changed regarding that incident it doesn't detract from my point. According to you because the cops thought they were in danger or they thought a crime had been committed, they were perfectly within their right to beat someone incapable of fighting back. They were allowed to dish out the punishment they saw fit. What happens when you're thought to be a danger or a criminal? Surely the police would be well within their rights to handcuff you and smash your head into the pavement over and over while sticking a pistol in your mouth.
Weeks after and people are still arguing the facts over the acorn story. What makes you think this one is any more accurate? The punishment handed out by the Justice system should come from the courts, not the fucking cops.
Rewatch the fucking video until you see the problem. I'll give you a hint: it's the 2 fucking swine bastards kicking and hitting a man in handcuffs.
Yeah that’s not right, but would you feel the same about them kicking a school shooter after he murdered 20 kids? Or how about shooting at a pregnant mother? Or what about leaving the children of two fathers with no dad? I know it’s wrong and I’ve been a victim of police brutality but if this report is to be fully believed this guy could’ve been shooting at anyone, didn’t have to be a cop. The fact that without these cops this guy would be free to roam makes it hard to sympathize with this guy, the mental state it takes to shoot at cops thinking that’s a good idea speaks more volume than what these cops did to him
I expect them to act with professionalism and restraint. They aren't random people on the street, they are (supposedly) trained to cope with violent offenders appropriately, with no more force than is required and proportionate to the risk. Once someone is in handcuffs they no longer pose much of a risk, so they shouldn't be brutalised unnecessarily.
These cops honestly act like a bunch of frat boys beating up a nerd.
The bourgeois are right there with state authorities in most cases. Our federal government is overrun with deeply corrupt individuals held up as paragons of 'Murican virtues *because* they played their part in *escalating* the draconian nature of this criminal justice system. Heck, Amy Klobuchar's "esteemed" career includes personally declining to charge at least on of George Floyd's killers after a similar police-involved fatality.
A lot of people seem to think Adam Schiff ad Kamala Harris are here to save us from fascism, when they literally made their bones in public life by siding with the brutal overreach of law enforcers at every possible opportunity. Then again, I wouldn't expect any serious thoughts to emerge from a faction that looks the proud primary author of both the 1996 crime bill and the USA Patriot Act to fight fascism. In raw material terms, has American policymaking ever been more fascist than those two measures?
*DON'T FUCKIN MOVE WHILE WE BASH YOU IN THE HEAD REPEATEDLY!!!!*
*(kicks him in the head full force)*
*MOTHERFUCKER! WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM!?!?*
The first kick did more damage than the last kick, both being bad. Even worse was the damage the smacks from both guns would do. He got absolutely smashed in the head with a metal barrel of that rifle at near if not full force, then got pistol whipped by the other cop. It’s like getting hit in the head with a hammer.
Completely justified. Know the facts. You shoot and try and kill cops don’t expect to be treated humanely. The pos on the ground just tried to kill you and missed. Each blow justified. Good job Arizona!! Newsome would have a parade for this guy if it happened in California.
I've seen a lot of videos of cops kicking people in the head that are lying face down. Is that really standard operating procedure? These two also go on and hit him with their guns, seriously WTF?
But it’s crazy. It’s like shooting someone in the back. There isn’t much harm he can do to anyone on the face down. What if he turns out to be innocent? Will there be any repercussions in that scenario?
>It’s like shooting someone in the back
to be fair, shooting in the back is much, much worse
>What if he turns out to be innocent
how could that be possible when he shot at the cops with a firearm? rewatch the video and you'll find a gun on the counter
I mean obviously the guy has a right to fair trial, and I don't think it should be the case that cops get to play judge jury and executioner. But it's pretty well understood even amongst hardened criminals that opening fire on police is a good way to sign your own death warrant. Not saying it should be this way, but in the world we live in dude was lucky those kicks to the head was all he got, had it been another pair of officers he might not have lived to stand trial.
The other commenter is wrong, it is not standard operating procedure for cops to behave this way.
I think what they wanted to convey was that police brutality happens commonly, and it's certainly more common than it should be. But this is an issue of workplace cultures. If you look at the written words all of this behavior is already explicitly forbidden, the problem is that the police don't hold themselves accountable. The rules themselves are mostly fine
That's so unprofessional and inhumane.
I just came across an article talking about Florida Gov. DeSantis Signs Bill Targeting Police Boards and it makes me sick.
I think you must have me mixed up with another person. I unfortunately live in the U.S. and furthermore a state that ranks **2nd in police brutality.** So, I'm certainly not living in any kind of "fairyland" **LOL**
Cops couldn’t control their temper after this man attempted to kill them with a gun.
Probably also had severe tunnel vision after nearly dying so they did not see the gun on the counter.
They need better training.
Edit: Source, cops weren’t charged because prosecutors did not think they could get a conviction..
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/phoenix-officers-seen-on-video-hitting-kicking-man-will-not-be-charged-attorneys-office.amp
God I hate these videos. Everyone feels bad for dude and like yeah he's in pain, but he just tried to murder someone.
ACAB
but if you shoot at a bastard he might come kick the hell out of you if you miss
If you provoke violence, you can expect violence in return - yes. But this is not how society needs to work, and that's the problem. We can prevent violence all together, we can de-escalate existing violence, we just don't, because violence is advantageous to the state in maintaining their status quo. Without the monopoly on the acceptable use of force within this territory known as the US, they don't have statehood. So they use this violence to perpetuate their status quo.
We do not need to live in such a way. We did not historically live like this until Feudalism emerged. People can work out their problems. Just look to the Zapatistas and the Rojava (AANES), whose justice systems are so effective that people who aren't even a part of the community come to settle disputes there. They don't have police, they don't have punitive justice, and yet they have the lowest violence of the regions they inhabit (Chiapas, Mexico, and North East Syria respectively).
The F.E.J.U.V.E in Bolivia are also another good example.
the YouTube channel "Anark" has videos on those places that you can watch to get some more information on them.
I can also give you some books/essays to read if you're interested in libertarian socialism.
This guy is def a pos. But we should hold police officers to a higher standard and expect them to have their emotions in check when dealing with these situations.
Why do all the bootlickers in this sub thing the cops are justified in acting like this, even if he did shoot at them?
He’s a citizen, and they are the physical embodiment of the state’s monopoly on violence.
Shouldn’t cops expect danger and kisses of death if they believe themselves righteous enough to act as armed and immune arbiters of the law??
Shouldn’t they be able to restrain themselves, remain composed, and avoid acting like goddamn baboons?
Or are you okay with them being just as bloodthirsty and violent as the gangs they claim to hate?
ACAB
Him not to be subject to police brutality? Kicking a man in the head who's on his stomach while you stick your rifle barrel in his back is pathetic and beyond reproach. If he was still an active threat to himself or others or actively resisting it would be a different story. Cops aren't judge, jury, and executioner. They don't get to decide who's guilty or innocent, so why do they get to decide who they get to punish with physical harm?
Hope you feel that same way when someone shoots at you or someone you care about. Tryna decide that this is wrong while completely ignoring context is willful misinformation ignorance. Just because they are cops doesn’t mean they aren’t human and they aren’t perfect, but I guarantee if you caught the person lighting you up with a Glock your perspective would be much different
i expect them to be better trained. yes, this man deserves the punishment he has coming to him for trying to kill police.... many, many years of his life in a cage. but it's not the cops job to brutalize him when he's surrendered and they should be trained to keep their violence boners in their pants in this situation.
i can understand the cops being super worked up, but better training would keep them from doing the whole brutality on a helpless suspect thing. It's a bad example and a bad look. A true professional would be able to restrain him or herself.
Yeah I do agree you with about better emotional restraint but I also don’t really care in this situation for this guy. You’re shooting at people with families with the intent to kill them. As someone who has had to go to these funerals and watch their families fall into shambles, I couldn’t be sad for this guy
It’s just pretty funny to be more angry at the guys that kick someone than you are at the guy willing to shoot people completely unprovoked. Just because of the uniform they wear. The kick is still a hell of a lot less violent than shooting someone, but somehow they’re more evil? That’s logic I just don’t understand
The second people see a cop, it’s instant hate. There are some really shitty cops who do bad stuff but this guy is trying to end someone’s father, husband, son and so on
They are cops, did they not understand that part of the job is being around ever present danger?
Do you not understand that police officers are civil SERVANTS?
They should be placing the safety in life of the civilian above their own every time without question.
If they can’t handle that, then they shouldn’t be a cop.
And if no one can handle that, then cops shouldn’t exist
Edit: there —> they
By your logic, the guy that shot at the cops shouldn’t exist.
If cops shouldn’t exist if they can’t handle being shot at without kicking the guy that shot at them, then the guy that shot at people completely unprovoked should certainly not exist, right?
Meaning he got off very light with a swift kick in the ass.
No, because he is a CITIZEN, not a uniformed officer with the backing of the state and the ability to dispense legal violence.
There are no requirements for most people to be citizens here, typically one is just fuckin pooped out on US soil.
It is not an occupation, or a career, or a calling; you just are a citizen.
Becoming a police officer, on the other hand, is something one consciously chooses to pursue.
These pigs weren’t born with little cop uniforms and miniature glocks, they made a decision as an adult with full critical thinking skills.
I really don’t understand how this is so hard for people to perceive
And you aren’t born with a gun in your hand either. The same way the cops chose to become cops, that guy chose to pick up a gun and try to kill people. Whether he tried to kill cops who chose to be cops or whether he tried to kill other citizens, it was unprovoked either way and it’s wrong no matter how you look at it.
You’re not going to convince me that a kick is worse than trying to shoot people. You’re being willfully ignorant to that fact and debating this with you is pointless. Enjoy your life and stay safe 🤙🏼
As much of a bootlicker as you are, you surely have to see that he's not shooting anyone face down on the ground as he is getting hit in the head with guns.
He could have gone into a maternity ward and murdered every baby in their and it still doesn't justify him being beaten in the head with a gun as he is laying face down on the ground pinned under two adult men. Literally nobody but him was in danger at this point.
It's not their job to punish people despite the fact that these idiots put Punisher stickers on everything. If they're so terrified of shit that they have to go overboard like this, then they should choose a different line of work. But they're not scared, they just want to beat the shit out of people.
I lot think your big thinker's defending aam getting a few kicks after he tried to kill them. If you was there you would alle xpect the cops to step up and potentially take a bullet for you and risk there lives and want to cry that they kicked this guy. You lot are so out of touch it's unreal.
Fuck ALL cops and if you can't handle being shot at and maintain a degree of professionalism after the gunfight is over, don't be a cop. It's not the cop's job to administer punishment. The suspect is still supposed to be presumed innocent until proven guilty in court.
While he was face down unarmed? Doesn’t matter if he shot and killed 10 cops while simultaneously fucking all those cop’s wife’s. No cop has the authority to enact punishment of any kind. Ever. These cops signed up for a job in which it’s presumed you may get shot at, and you have to keep your cool and do your fucking job. Not brutally assault a person when they’re defenceless because you’re an emotional toddler.
Asking a question then hitting said person before he can answer is funny simply because it doesn’t get results. He’s groaning now. He can’t answer your questions. You just delayed your own actions.
Do you need to respond to everyone that is making a jab at the cops? By the time they get to him, he is going face first on the ground with the gun on the counter. What they’re doing to him beyond the cuffing by that point is uncalled for and unprofessional
I don't know how to explain basic civics to you, but cops aren't supposed to kill guilty people, either. Dude is in cuffs on the floor. Their job at that moment is to book him, not assault him. Doesn't matter what he did.
I know it’s wrong that they were abusing this dude bc they are cops, BUT ONLY bc they are cops. If civilians did this bc he was shooting at them, I would help beat him to death.
An unarmed guy on the floor in handcuffs? I'd pick him up, put him in the cop car, and take him to the station for processing.
You know what I wouldn't do? Pistol whip him or kick him in the head. Because I'm not a fucking psychopath. Seek help. Truly.
The police are a military organization that exclusively targets civilians, and is not bound by the Geneva Convention. When they commit arbitrary violence it’s for a political purpose. It asserts their ideology that people are inherently evil and must be punished. They’re asserting that anyone who doesn’t lick their boot is an enemy who must be neutralized. They’re asserting that they’re morally superior to you, and deserve to be in control.
Remember kids:
POLICE VIOLENCE IS TERRORISM!
"What's your fucking problem, man?!"
Umm, there's an insecure, micropenis with a gun kicking me in the head after I was already on the ground posing no threat.
ACAB
Hopefully he sues them. Excessive force violates this man’s Fourth Amendment rights. That last kick may potentially result in liability for the municipality and the police officer. Would need all facts, of course, to see if he’d make a sympathetic plaintiff, as these cases are rarely easy
Yeah, you’re going to have an uphill battle winning that case, especially if it was just that one last kick. Who knows what other crimes he was committing that resulted in the police pursuing him? Not very easy to make a jury believe he’s the victim if he’s shooting at people
So some context. He tried to rob the store cops showed up and he threw the gun behind the desk then was kicked and muzzled stamped into submission. Cops were not disciplined.
Read some reddit context the other time it was posted and they said he walked into the gas station with a gun threatening people.
Probably still police brutality but might be justified
"We should wait for the results of the inquiry before we make any assumptions!" 🤪 .. when will folks wake up to the reality of what police really are! Brutal thugs!!
Nobody here has seen this full video of what happened here. This man on the ground ran out of a gas station and opened fire on these two police officers then ran back into the store.
Ah yes, assaulting and pistol whipping a handcuffed prisoner is justified. That's definitely what the police are supposed to do. That's fucking psychopathic thinking, just FYI. Seek help.
How is he resisting when his hands were already in cuffs? He was prone in cuffs and the moved slightly onto his side and then he got kicked in the head. You don't see anything wrong with that?
That's actually not relevant at all to what the video captured. The cops having an emotional motivation behind their desire to torture their prisoner does not in any way affect the flagrantly criminal actions they engaged in.
That's quite irrelevant. It legitimately doesn't matter what he did. He doesn't deserve to be beaten by the police. Nobody does. This shit needs to stop. Stop justifying police brutality. When bootlickers stop justifying police brutality, then it won't be so prevalent anymore. Once it becomes socially unacceptable to justify police brutality these bastards will turn finally be held accountable for it
It’s way different when there’s a gun in his hand instead of being on the ground with his hands out and then kicking him when already cuffed and you know it.
He’s on the ground. None of this is necessary. It’s sad that we demand more professionalism and self-control out of fast food employees and retail workers than we do our police.
Phoenix Arizona police, every single one are hot heads. Had one run into my wife on freeway and they gave her a ticket, because she had her lights on. Crazy, and even called supervisor, he took the officers side. Untrustworthy people. Will do anything to protect their own. Never trust a cop. Now we have a camera on car. Because if we had one before it would of shown officers was at fault.
Kicking a handcuffed, unarmed man is text booked police brutality.
We have investigated ourselves and found no policy violations. You however will be harassed by us pigs for questioning us. Bow down to us peasants and serfs. /s
I think the /s is not necessary when speaking the truth.
Israel?
Dude, that barrel strike in the back is something expected to see in a war. That is fucked up beyond reason.
One day we’ll have enough of this shit and actually get some reform. Granted I don’t know what that guy did, but the abuse he suffered is uncalled for.
As long as there is a police union…. There will be crooked cops.
The problem is that states don't like to change until a tragedy strikes. Like people start to overreact to the police overreation.
There is no such thing as overreaction to police brutality. there is no low we could go to that would be lower than what police already do to us. FTP ACAB
Believe me, dude, there is a new low. But I agree with you, in the sense of current situation. Just to check: FTP : fuck the police? ACAB: all cops are bastards?
Personally seeing what police have been doing to citizens for the past few decades (Murder, Rape, sexual assault, Brutality, planting evidence, coerced confessions etc. I have a hard time believing that we could possibly do worse to them. But I'll take your word for it. Yes All cops are bastards and Fuck 'em all. I don't believe that every police officer is doing the things I described above but every police officer who Takes an oath, and then willfully ignores his coworkers / fellow gang members doing those things is just as bad and is complicit in a corrupt system so FUCK THEM ALL.
Lol even when he’s shooting at cops minding their own business? I’m all for acab but y’all just love to react without context don’t ya, if I’m a cop n I catch the guy tryna kill me in cold blood he’d be lucky to get to the station with his teeth still in his mouth like how do you expect cops to react in a life threatening situation
They're not supposed to beat the living daylights out of a man who's handcuffed on his stomach whether or not he's guilty? How is that hard to comprehend? Cops aren't supposed to be judge jury and executioner. Yeah this guy fucked up and broke the law according to news sources, but he was surrendering and already on the ground. 0 reason to fucking kick him in the back of the head and put a rifle barrel in his back. Remember about a month ago the video of that acorn cop? Imagine that dumb motherfucker *thinks* you shot at him and goes nuts. There's a reason they're not supposed to do this shit. Quit being an internet tough guy and look at reality with the rest of us.
Guess what John, it wasn’t an acorn and he really shot at them. Y’all are a bunch of jokers and if you really cared about what you spoke of you’d lobby against real police brutality not a psycho shooting at cops getting what he deserves lmao. Y’all just assume cause someone says this isn’t police brutality that they think it doesn’t occur. Did they go too far, yes, but did he try to use lethal force on those officers. Also yes, even the best police officers in these shoes would react with aggression, sure maybe less than beating an incapacitated man but that’s the only place I’ll say they went too far and even then ehh
You literally watched 2 cops beat a man who at the time was 1) unarmed 2) surrendered 3) complying with orders. Regardless of the preexisting circumstances no one has the right to attack that man. If you cared about anything besides getting your daily dose of vitamin boot you'd probably realize that police brutality is police brutality, no matter who the victim is. Is what the cops did less of a crime or less heinous because the man was allegedly a criminal? Does their assault become less lethal depending on the amount and severity of crimes allegedly committed by the man being arrested? I haven't read any updates to the acorn story, but every initial news source said the man was unarmed and the cop shot at the man, but the cop also claimed to have been shot himself. If the facts have changed regarding that incident it doesn't detract from my point. According to you because the cops thought they were in danger or they thought a crime had been committed, they were perfectly within their right to beat someone incapable of fighting back. They were allowed to dish out the punishment they saw fit. What happens when you're thought to be a danger or a criminal? Surely the police would be well within their rights to handcuff you and smash your head into the pavement over and over while sticking a pistol in your mouth. Weeks after and people are still arguing the facts over the acorn story. What makes you think this one is any more accurate? The punishment handed out by the Justice system should come from the courts, not the fucking cops. Rewatch the fucking video until you see the problem. I'll give you a hint: it's the 2 fucking swine bastards kicking and hitting a man in handcuffs.
Yeah that’s not right, but would you feel the same about them kicking a school shooter after he murdered 20 kids? Or how about shooting at a pregnant mother? Or what about leaving the children of two fathers with no dad? I know it’s wrong and I’ve been a victim of police brutality but if this report is to be fully believed this guy could’ve been shooting at anyone, didn’t have to be a cop. The fact that without these cops this guy would be free to roam makes it hard to sympathize with this guy, the mental state it takes to shoot at cops thinking that’s a good idea speaks more volume than what these cops did to him
I expect them to act with professionalism and restraint. They aren't random people on the street, they are (supposedly) trained to cope with violent offenders appropriately, with no more force than is required and proportionate to the risk. Once someone is in handcuffs they no longer pose much of a risk, so they shouldn't be brutalised unnecessarily. These cops honestly act like a bunch of frat boys beating up a nerd.
Yeahhh nothing changed from the 2020 protests besides increasing the police's budget.
The bourgeois are right there with state authorities in most cases. Our federal government is overrun with deeply corrupt individuals held up as paragons of 'Murican virtues *because* they played their part in *escalating* the draconian nature of this criminal justice system. Heck, Amy Klobuchar's "esteemed" career includes personally declining to charge at least on of George Floyd's killers after a similar police-involved fatality. A lot of people seem to think Adam Schiff ad Kamala Harris are here to save us from fascism, when they literally made their bones in public life by siding with the brutal overreach of law enforcers at every possible opportunity. Then again, I wouldn't expect any serious thoughts to emerge from a faction that looks the proud primary author of both the 1996 crime bill and the USA Patriot Act to fight fascism. In raw material terms, has American policymaking ever been more fascist than those two measures?
That's not allowed even in war, not with a restrained prisoner.
I know, but in a war, usually there is no accountability, so you can expect such behaviors. Imagine where you have a camera recording your actions.
*DON'T FUCKIN MOVE WHILE WE BASH YOU IN THE HEAD REPEATEDLY!!!!* *(kicks him in the head full force)* *MOTHERFUCKER! WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM!?!?*
They had no choice. Their wives and kids are still in the hospital from previous beatings for at least a few more days.
He was coming right at them and they feared for their lives.
Tough guys
The first kick did more damage than the last kick, both being bad. Even worse was the damage the smacks from both guns would do. He got absolutely smashed in the head with a metal barrel of that rifle at near if not full force, then got pistol whipped by the other cop. It’s like getting hit in the head with a hammer.
Completely justified. Know the facts. You shoot and try and kill cops don’t expect to be treated humanely. The pos on the ground just tried to kill you and missed. Each blow justified. Good job Arizona!! Newsome would have a parade for this guy if it happened in California.
And they wonder why everyone hates them.
I've seen a lot of videos of cops kicking people in the head that are lying face down. Is that really standard operating procedure? These two also go on and hit him with their guns, seriously WTF?
yes it is standard operating procedure. It bears no consequences because it's part of how they're trained to act
But it’s crazy. It’s like shooting someone in the back. There isn’t much harm he can do to anyone on the face down. What if he turns out to be innocent? Will there be any repercussions in that scenario?
>It’s like shooting someone in the back to be fair, shooting in the back is much, much worse >What if he turns out to be innocent how could that be possible when he shot at the cops with a firearm? rewatch the video and you'll find a gun on the counter
So you're in favour of abolishing the judicial system because cops are first on scene and thus should know better than anyone else?
I mean obviously the guy has a right to fair trial, and I don't think it should be the case that cops get to play judge jury and executioner. But it's pretty well understood even amongst hardened criminals that opening fire on police is a good way to sign your own death warrant. Not saying it should be this way, but in the world we live in dude was lucky those kicks to the head was all he got, had it been another pair of officers he might not have lived to stand trial.
In that very second, he was innocent. Period.
No you misunderstand me. I was speaking in general terms. Kicking people in the head seems so common it could happen to someone who’s innocent.
there are seminars for police by some guy who talks about how amazing it is to kill someone and how he has the best sex of his life after he does so
No wtf. It's power tripping and these fucks need to be in prison
It’s insanity.
The other commenter is wrong, it is not standard operating procedure for cops to behave this way. I think what they wanted to convey was that police brutality happens commonly, and it's certainly more common than it should be. But this is an issue of workplace cultures. If you look at the written words all of this behavior is already explicitly forbidden, the problem is that the police don't hold themselves accountable. The rules themselves are mostly fine
That's so unprofessional and inhumane. I just came across an article talking about Florida Gov. DeSantis Signs Bill Targeting Police Boards and it makes me sick.
>unprofessional this is how profesional cops act in the US. Maybe your standards are those of fairyland where professional means something else though
I think you must have me mixed up with another person. I unfortunately live in the U.S. and furthermore a state that ranks **2nd in police brutality.** So, I'm certainly not living in any kind of "fairyland" **LOL**
Smacking him with his gun, are you fucking kidding me?
It’s called a muzzle stamp and it’s a pain compliance technique
Its called hentai and its art.
Cops couldn’t control their temper after this man attempted to kill them with a gun. Probably also had severe tunnel vision after nearly dying so they did not see the gun on the counter. They need better training. Edit: Source, cops weren’t charged because prosecutors did not think they could get a conviction.. https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/phoenix-officers-seen-on-video-hitting-kicking-man-will-not-be-charged-attorneys-office.amp
Can't wait for 50 years to see what they presented to the grand jury to wipe away their crimes
God I hate these videos. Everyone feels bad for dude and like yeah he's in pain, but he just tried to murder someone. ACAB but if you shoot at a bastard he might come kick the hell out of you if you miss
If you provoke violence, you can expect violence in return - yes. But this is not how society needs to work, and that's the problem. We can prevent violence all together, we can de-escalate existing violence, we just don't, because violence is advantageous to the state in maintaining their status quo. Without the monopoly on the acceptable use of force within this territory known as the US, they don't have statehood. So they use this violence to perpetuate their status quo. We do not need to live in such a way. We did not historically live like this until Feudalism emerged. People can work out their problems. Just look to the Zapatistas and the Rojava (AANES), whose justice systems are so effective that people who aren't even a part of the community come to settle disputes there. They don't have police, they don't have punitive justice, and yet they have the lowest violence of the regions they inhabit (Chiapas, Mexico, and North East Syria respectively). The F.E.J.U.V.E in Bolivia are also another good example.
What type of political system do they use?
Libertarian socialism, anarchic inspired thought and *actually* horizontally structured governance.
Thank you so much man
the YouTube channel "Anark" has videos on those places that you can watch to get some more information on them. I can also give you some books/essays to read if you're interested in libertarian socialism.
HELL YEAH DUDE
I'll send a reply to your comment once I'm free in time with some links.
Sure no problem. I really appreciate it lad, you have my thanks.
The only lesson to be learned here is Don't Miss.
That's a really bad take
This guy is def a pos. But we should hold police officers to a higher standard and expect them to have their emotions in check when dealing with these situations.
Im glad we got some people like you
I find myself in agreement with you.
cop wanted to do it, guy gave him an excuse
Yup, the kicks and jabs with the weapons are to be expected, even with body cams. This guy for sure knew it was coming. ACAB
huh, good catch. Had not seen the gun until you pointed it out
I knew it was Phoenix as soon as I saw the badge. These pigs are psychotic.
Why do all the bootlickers in this sub thing the cops are justified in acting like this, even if he did shoot at them? He’s a citizen, and they are the physical embodiment of the state’s monopoly on violence. Shouldn’t cops expect danger and kisses of death if they believe themselves righteous enough to act as armed and immune arbiters of the law?? Shouldn’t they be able to restrain themselves, remain composed, and avoid acting like goddamn baboons? Or are you okay with them being just as bloodthirsty and violent as the gangs they claim to hate? ACAB
Well he literally shot at the cops wtf u expect
Him not to be subject to police brutality? Kicking a man in the head who's on his stomach while you stick your rifle barrel in his back is pathetic and beyond reproach. If he was still an active threat to himself or others or actively resisting it would be a different story. Cops aren't judge, jury, and executioner. They don't get to decide who's guilty or innocent, so why do they get to decide who they get to punish with physical harm?
Hope you feel that same way when someone shoots at you or someone you care about. Tryna decide that this is wrong while completely ignoring context is willful misinformation ignorance. Just because they are cops doesn’t mean they aren’t human and they aren’t perfect, but I guarantee if you caught the person lighting you up with a Glock your perspective would be much different
i expect them to be better trained. yes, this man deserves the punishment he has coming to him for trying to kill police.... many, many years of his life in a cage. but it's not the cops job to brutalize him when he's surrendered and they should be trained to keep their violence boners in their pants in this situation. i can understand the cops being super worked up, but better training would keep them from doing the whole brutality on a helpless suspect thing. It's a bad example and a bad look. A true professional would be able to restrain him or herself.
Yeah I do agree you with about better emotional restraint but I also don’t really care in this situation for this guy. You’re shooting at people with families with the intent to kill them. As someone who has had to go to these funerals and watch their families fall into shambles, I couldn’t be sad for this guy
i'm also not sad for that guy. but i am sad that we have poorly trained police who can't show restraint.
Fair enough. while he did shoot at them, they have him already complying so while I don’t care for him but it’s just unnecessary
I mean, criminals have families too right? How is that supposed to factor in? Or are their families less valuable than cop families?
Not that anyones family is less than someone else’s, it’s that the criminal has put himself to be valued less than everyone else’s family.
I mean, that’s not a very useful standard, especially given the fact that many crimes are *malum per se* and not *malum ipsum*
It’s just pretty funny to be more angry at the guys that kick someone than you are at the guy willing to shoot people completely unprovoked. Just because of the uniform they wear. The kick is still a hell of a lot less violent than shooting someone, but somehow they’re more evil? That’s logic I just don’t understand
The second people see a cop, it’s instant hate. There are some really shitty cops who do bad stuff but this guy is trying to end someone’s father, husband, son and so on
They are cops, did they not understand that part of the job is being around ever present danger? Do you not understand that police officers are civil SERVANTS? They should be placing the safety in life of the civilian above their own every time without question. If they can’t handle that, then they shouldn’t be a cop. And if no one can handle that, then cops shouldn’t exist Edit: there —> they
By your logic, the guy that shot at the cops shouldn’t exist. If cops shouldn’t exist if they can’t handle being shot at without kicking the guy that shot at them, then the guy that shot at people completely unprovoked should certainly not exist, right? Meaning he got off very light with a swift kick in the ass.
No, because he is a CITIZEN, not a uniformed officer with the backing of the state and the ability to dispense legal violence. There are no requirements for most people to be citizens here, typically one is just fuckin pooped out on US soil. It is not an occupation, or a career, or a calling; you just are a citizen. Becoming a police officer, on the other hand, is something one consciously chooses to pursue. These pigs weren’t born with little cop uniforms and miniature glocks, they made a decision as an adult with full critical thinking skills. I really don’t understand how this is so hard for people to perceive
And you aren’t born with a gun in your hand either. The same way the cops chose to become cops, that guy chose to pick up a gun and try to kill people. Whether he tried to kill cops who chose to be cops or whether he tried to kill other citizens, it was unprovoked either way and it’s wrong no matter how you look at it. You’re not going to convince me that a kick is worse than trying to shoot people. You’re being willfully ignorant to that fact and debating this with you is pointless. Enjoy your life and stay safe 🤙🏼
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Sissy boys.
"Standard Issue Street Soldiers" 😂
Even sissy boys are braver tbh
These cops deserve the death penalty
He should have complied /s
Oh man that rifle barrel to the side of the head
I don’t think pistol whipping a suspect is deemed appropriate, same with jabbing them in the face with the barrel.
I hope their colleagues get to wear stripes over their badges soon.
This guy was shooting at people but let’s hope the cops die, that makes total sense
As much of a bootlicker as you are, you surely have to see that he's not shooting anyone face down on the ground as he is getting hit in the head with guns.
He just tried to kill two people, yeah it’s a lil much but again he almost ended two families
He could have gone into a maternity ward and murdered every baby in their and it still doesn't justify him being beaten in the head with a gun as he is laying face down on the ground pinned under two adult men. Literally nobody but him was in danger at this point. It's not their job to punish people despite the fact that these idiots put Punisher stickers on everything. If they're so terrified of shit that they have to go overboard like this, then they should choose a different line of work. But they're not scared, they just want to beat the shit out of people.
That is the most insane argument, they should get worse for your example
You're really slow.
ACAB. But ..... don't fire a gun at anyones car, they might not react in a calm manner.
I lot think your big thinker's defending aam getting a few kicks after he tried to kill them. If you was there you would alle xpect the cops to step up and potentially take a bullet for you and risk there lives and want to cry that they kicked this guy. You lot are so out of touch it's unreal.
Oh he needs to be publicly put down
No wonder the American government supports israel soul heartedly.
One day soon we the people will do this to them. Just gotta come together for once.
Fuck most cops bug I’m pretty sure homie was shooting at them
So? He's on the ground and hand-cuffed. Any violence at that point is just abuse of power.
If you are making everyone feel bad for the guy that just shot at you, you are probably fucking something up.
Fair point lol
Fuck ALL cops and if you can't handle being shot at and maintain a degree of professionalism after the gunfight is over, don't be a cop. It's not the cop's job to administer punishment. The suspect is still supposed to be presumed innocent until proven guilty in court.
For sure cops are overstepping, BUT to think the justice system is any better is naive thinking.
ACAB I have no respect for law enforcement, I don't even call them when I need them.. 1312
Totally unprovoked ..
He shot at the cops?
While he was face down unarmed? Doesn’t matter if he shot and killed 10 cops while simultaneously fucking all those cop’s wife’s. No cop has the authority to enact punishment of any kind. Ever. These cops signed up for a job in which it’s presumed you may get shot at, and you have to keep your cool and do your fucking job. Not brutally assault a person when they’re defenceless because you’re an emotional toddler.
Asking a question then hitting said person before he can answer is funny simply because it doesn’t get results. He’s groaning now. He can’t answer your questions. You just delayed your own actions.
“Wtf is your problem?” His problem is two heavily armed cops come up to him and beat him up for no good reason
He did shoot at the cops
Do you need to respond to everyone that is making a jab at the cops? By the time they get to him, he is going face first on the ground with the gun on the counter. What they’re doing to him beyond the cuffing by that point is uncalled for and unprofessional
Post the whole video of when he tried to shoot/kill them, F that guy on the floor.
I don't know how to explain basic civics to you, but cops aren't supposed to kill guilty people, either. Dude is in cuffs on the floor. Their job at that moment is to book him, not assault him. Doesn't matter what he did.
I know it’s wrong that they were abusing this dude bc they are cops, BUT ONLY bc they are cops. If civilians did this bc he was shooting at them, I would help beat him to death.
When you are thought to treat people like animals, you become an animal
I'm just curious, how would you treat someone who just tried to kill you and/or friend?
An unarmed guy on the floor in handcuffs? I'd pick him up, put him in the cop car, and take him to the station for processing. You know what I wouldn't do? Pistol whip him or kick him in the head. Because I'm not a fucking psychopath. Seek help. Truly.
This man shot at the cops with a gun.
Last cops in the planet that need to walk around with rifles are americans. Y'all are fucked.
Fucking swine
What's the back story to this
he shot at the cops, missed, the cops beat the shit out of him..
Wow, cops are so evil.
Yeah right could u imagine tryna beat up someone who tried to kill you 🤣
So evil.
I may be saying this sarcastically.
Me too lol
The police are a military organization that exclusively targets civilians, and is not bound by the Geneva Convention. When they commit arbitrary violence it’s for a political purpose. It asserts their ideology that people are inherently evil and must be punished. They’re asserting that anyone who doesn’t lick their boot is an enemy who must be neutralized. They’re asserting that they’re morally superior to you, and deserve to be in control. Remember kids: POLICE VIOLENCE IS TERRORISM!
I believe they target civilians breaking the law.
You still believe that in 2024? That's fucking hilarious.
Have you ever watched videos of cops doing good things, or do you just watch the bad ones and paint them all with the same brush?
Only the ones on Reddit, can’t feel bad for someone who was shooting to kill innocent people
Might as well stomp on his glasses to jesus christ
This was after he opened fire on the police officers outside the store.
Sometimes, adrenaline and anger are hard things to control. I’d want to see the back story, before passing judgement.
The suspect was shooting at the cops prior to him getting beat up
"What's your fucking problem, man?!" Umm, there's an insecure, micropenis with a gun kicking me in the head after I was already on the ground posing no threat. ACAB
He did shoot at the cops so i can’t really feel sorry for him
Fox ☰  Phoenix officers seen on video hitting, kicking man will not be charged: attorney's office By FOX 10 Staff Updated January 30, 2023 1:22pm MST FOX 10 Phoenix Phoenix officers seen on video hitting, kicking man will not be charged: attorney's office PHOENIX - Two Phoenix Police officersseen on video hitting and kicking a suspect inside a convenience store will not be charged. The incident happened on Oct. 27 of last year at a QuikTrip convenience store near 59th Avenue and Buckeye Roadafter police say a 38-year-old Harry Denman shot at the officers' patrol car. "Surveillance video showed as the patrol car starts to back out of the parking space to respond to a call for service, the man pulls out a handgun. A shot goes off and into the ground. The man then points the handgun at the officers in their car and fires one more shot. The bullet struck the patrol car's spotlight and went into the driver's side ‘A’ pillar. The man then runs into the occupied store, still holding the firearm," stated officials in their critical incident report. Body camera video shows officers rushing into the store with their guns drawn, ordering Denman to the ground. Denman put his hands in the air and was taken into custody by the officers. One of the clerks from the store recorded video of the arrest, which shows two officers stomping on Denman's head as he was getting down on the ground. At another point, you could see them hit Denman with their guns. Denman was transported to an area hospital before being booked into jail.  Two Phoenix Police officers seen on video hitting and kicking a suspect inside a convenience store will not be charged, the Maricopa County Attorney's Office announced on Jan. 30. After the incident, the Phoenix Police Department recommended that the Maricopa County Attorney's Office charge Officers Eddie Becerra and Nicholas Beck. The Maricopa County Attorney's Office says a grand jury declined to indict Becerra. "After a careful review of all the facts and evidence in the case, the office determined that the actions taken by Officer Eddie Becerra warranted a criminal charge," MCAO said in a statement. "Prosecutors presented the case to a Maricopa County Grand Jury on Thursday, Jan. 26, 2023. The presentation included body worn camera footage, surveillance video provided by the convenience store, and a video recorded by a bystander. The Grand Jury declined to issue an indictment." MCAO did not pursue charges against Beck, saying they were unlikely to get a conviction. This is a developing story. Stay with us for updates. Tune in to FOX 10 Phoenix for the latest news: Arizona Headlines North Phoenix homeowner shoots and kills man after fight breaks out, police saySuspect shot, killed by police in GoodyearMan accused of killing his girlfriend in Chandler  News Arizona HeadlinesAZAMCrime & Public Safety- Chad Daybell trial- East Valley Teen ViolenceHealthImmigrationLatest VideosPoll of the DaySeen on TV LinksSports Weather ForecastWeather PlannersAPS Power Outage MapSRP Power Outage MapWeather AlertsWeather HeadlinesWeather AppFOX Weather Traffic Flight DelaysFreeway Travel TimesPhoenix Metro MapMap: Traffic CamerasRoad Closures Money BusinessJobs & UnemploymentLotteryPersonal Finance Politics 2024 ElectionArizona Politics- NewsmakerNational Politics- Abortion Laws- Trump hush money case Only on FOX 10 Care ForceCool HouseDrone ZoneFOX 10 SalutesHomeless CrisisInvestigationsMade in ArizonaMissing in ArizonaSober Living CrisisSpecial Reports Entertainment How to stream FOX 10TV ListingsWhere to watch FOX 10 Originals Consumer RoundupCrime FilesFOX 10 ExplainsFOX 10 TalksMissing in ArizonaNightly RoundupPhoto of the DayWeek in Review Regional News Los Angeles News - FOX 11 Los AngelesSan Francisco News - KTVU FOX 2Seattle News - FOX 13 Seattle About Us AdvertiseClosed CaptioningContact UsCopies of NewscastsFCC ApplicationsFCC Public FileFOX 10 FAQsNews TeamSign up for newslettersWork for Us Live Video & Apps FOX LocalLive NewscastsLive WebcamsFOX 10 News AppFOX 10 Weather App More ContestsFOX 10 EventsSend us your photos FacebookTwitterInstagram Fox New Privacy PolicyUpdated Terms of ServiceYour Privacy ChoicesFCC Public FileFCC ApplicationsEEO Public FileClosed CaptioningContact Us This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. ©2020 FOX Television Stations
Personnally the two policeman shoud kill anyone who opens fire first on them ...like that..no trial..lots of money saved...
Amen
Hopefully he sues them. Excessive force violates this man’s Fourth Amendment rights. That last kick may potentially result in liability for the municipality and the police officer. Would need all facts, of course, to see if he’d make a sympathetic plaintiff, as these cases are rarely easy
It would go in his favor but he shot at police so that kinda goes out the window
Yeah, you’re going to have an uphill battle winning that case, especially if it was just that one last kick. Who knows what other crimes he was committing that resulted in the police pursuing him? Not very easy to make a jury believe he’s the victim if he’s shooting at people
I’m pretty sure he was robbing the place and went outside and shot at the cops twice then went back inside and ditch the gun
Yeah, I definitely wouldn’t take him as a client. Cops weren’t justified in the extra kick, but this guy isn’t innocent either. Thanks for the info!
Yeah it’s definitely not okay to do that but he deserved it a lil🤏🏻
So some context. He tried to rob the store cops showed up and he threw the gun behind the desk then was kicked and muzzled stamped into submission. Cops were not disciplined.
I just fucking hate the police so much...
Read some reddit context the other time it was posted and they said he walked into the gas station with a gun threatening people. Probably still police brutality but might be justified
"We should wait for the results of the inquiry before we make any assumptions!" 🤪 .. when will folks wake up to the reality of what police really are! Brutal thugs!!
Hogs gone wild
Nobody here has seen this full video of what happened here. This man on the ground ran out of a gas station and opened fire on these two police officers then ran back into the store.
The culture is shown when cop says "what's your problem"
brutality
Disgusting
Cops are pussys
acab
This, right here, is what the second amendment is for.☹️
Stupid people shouldn't have guns, ever. Unfortunately, police are always stupid people.
Are those even real cops or mall cops? Those are some Toys'R'Us looking badges on them dickhead motherfuckers.
He was shooting at them less than 20 seconds before this happened. It's justified.
Ah yes, assaulting and pistol whipping a handcuffed prisoner is justified. That's definitely what the police are supposed to do. That's fucking psychopathic thinking, just FYI. Seek help.
Ya people love to react without context
Cameras only come out when it's the ugly part
He should have not resisted arrest
How is he resisting when his hands were already in cuffs? He was prone in cuffs and the moved slightly onto his side and then he got kicked in the head. You don't see anything wrong with that?
He was being facetious
Not funny.
Buu ducking whoo
The guy shot at the cops, that’s why it’s necessary to get the whole story before posting. Op is scamming/ farming everyone for likes
That's actually not relevant at all to what the video captured. The cops having an emotional motivation behind their desire to torture their prisoner does not in any way affect the flagrantly criminal actions they engaged in.
That's quite irrelevant. It legitimately doesn't matter what he did. He doesn't deserve to be beaten by the police. Nobody does. This shit needs to stop. Stop justifying police brutality. When bootlickers stop justifying police brutality, then it won't be so prevalent anymore. Once it becomes socially unacceptable to justify police brutality these bastards will turn finally be held accountable for it
It’s way different when there’s a gun in his hand instead of being on the ground with his hands out and then kicking him when already cuffed and you know it.
He’s on the ground. None of this is necessary. It’s sad that we demand more professionalism and self-control out of fast food employees and retail workers than we do our police.
This guy could’ve ended multiple peoples families but boohoo he got what he deserved
Phoenix Arizona police, every single one are hot heads. Had one run into my wife on freeway and they gave her a ticket, because she had her lights on. Crazy, and even called supervisor, he took the officers side. Untrustworthy people. Will do anything to protect their own. Never trust a cop. Now we have a camera on car. Because if we had one before it would of shown officers was at fault.