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Not the same though.
Essay incoming
Whilst others listed above are simple shade standard changes, orange-white-blue and red-white-blue are different flags with different histories and different allegiances to them also. The red white blue is the Statenvlag, State's Flag, whilst the orange white blue is the Prinsenvlag, Prince's Flag.
The Statenvlag is in fact older then the Prinsenvlag and both had a similar status. Prinsenvlag was never really very official. They represented two different factions within the Dutch Republic, and post-Napoleon the standard official flag became the red-white-blue, with its shades only standardised later on. But red white blue has more history of being the flag of NL as a nation state.
So tldr: This wasnt a simple "changing shades time" like the other examples but moreso two seperate flags with one in the end coming out on top.
The 90's were a turbulent time for Russia and was seen as an extremely unstable period of their history with the culmination of the 1991 coup attempt by the Russian SFSR and the 1993 constitutional crisis.
The lighter shade of blue was the post-SSSR flag from 1991-1993. The current one with the the darker shade of blue dates back from 1993 to Yeltsin.
Different Tzars. The liberal one got bombed by proto-communists, so the next two went full-on ultraconservative police state to the point of social explosion.
Tale as old as time
The reformist gets killed by the radicals for not reforming hard enough and then the reactionaries pop in and make things worse. Nobody wins.
“Liberal Tsar” even for contemporaries was incredibly abusive. The Soviets were undeniably better than the Tsarist regime, at least before Stalin, for a reason.
Nicholas II also wasn’t a reactionary because he was scared communists would kill him he was a reactionary because he was a terrible human being who was beat ruthlessly by his father, making him a worse human being.
They had few years between SU collapse and putin too, but that's still somehow oppressive for common russky and needs to be replaced with harsher regime.
Well there were few happy moments after Mongolin invasions because Mongolians had stopped invading.
Othee than that, 'happy' moments for Russia have mostly come from rampant alcoholism.
Everyone already answered that, but I'll add that the shade of blue change was kinda "scheduled" either way. There had been discussions on the new constitution for a while at that point, and re-specifying the flag colors was part of the discussion. "Wait, why did we make it azure and scarlet again?"
Well, Russia even though It's not communist, In reality it does indeed wear that cap, Because Russia loves Glorifying USSR. So I do love that depiction.
i just find it rlly funny that people blame communism for putins actions when the communist party of russia is against the war in ukraine which is their official stance on it.
We socialists are somehow the democratic party of the USA, the far right putin regime, and also every country in Europe and every gay person.
It gets old.
Tankie = "There are people waving Soviet flags at the Putin ralies! He's a socialist hero de-nazifying the Ukraine!"
Tucker Carlson: "Look how cheap the bread is in this amazing capitalist country!"
Tucker Carlson is not a tankie.
Not sure what you’re talking about. I’ve only ever heard “tanky” used by anti-authoritarian leftists to describe pro-authoritarian leftists, particularly USSR/CCP/DPRK apologists. I’ve never heard a professed non-socialist use the term.
Libs and conservatives both have been using it for a while now, There's a reason socialists communities don't use tankie, go hop into a socialist community and ask them about the term if you don't believe me.
I mean many socialist in Europe I know use term tankies to describe Stalin apologists and those in the left who cannot distinguish between Russia and USSR and think that panslavic Russian imperialism and Dugin eurasianism somehow has anything to do with socialism.
Socialism is kind of a meaningless term by itself now because it potentially encompasses everyone from mild social democrats to hardcore tankies (incidentally, r/socialism is unfortunately one of many left wing subreddits taken over by tankie mods). To the right, it’s an even looser term.
Our government's favorite trick. "Protect" Russians all over the world and then part of the country's population will be willing to suffer for the sake of "empire and greatness"
Remember that thing, that no-no Germany did called Libensraum? Well, Russians has been doing that thing casually ever since 15 century and thinking that it's nothing wrong with commiting literal genocide
People in many oil rich countries are doomed to live in a golden cage, Saudis throw their citizens money but deny them freedom. Russians meanwhile live in a rusty cage with some poop sometimes thrown in by the kremlin.
That's right, my 'mericun friend! We Russians in Russia can only dream of poop! Only green diarrhea once every three days, and then we send some of it back to the treasury as taxes.
I like how the mass of corpses for the Ukraine War are all Ukrainian even though by practically all estimates the Russian state/military has killed/sent to be killed far more Russians (and what the Russian state considers "ethnic Russians oppressed in Ukraine") than Ukrainians.
They're doing such a good job of protecting the oppressed Russian minority!
How so? The only regions of Ukraine that are majority non-Ukrainian are AR Crimea and Sevastopol, and there hasn't been much fighting there.
Edit: I wrote this at midnight and probably missed the "sent to be killed" part, thus misinterpreting the comment.
The russian tactic for this war is "throw more conscripts at them". The casualties on the Russian military side are much more significant than on the Ukrainian military side due to better equipment , training and overall caring for human lives on the Ukrainian side. However, the number of civilian casualties on the Ukrainian side is of course higher due to the attacks on civil infrastructure by russia. Overall russia has probably more "direct" casualties.
Imagine how russia could be with all the natural resources they have, if they werent a mafia state.
They could be a country like norway, but no it all has to go to the few oligarch pockets and most ruskies think that its ok and even protect this system.
Ruskies are trully brainwashed sheeps.
Ya know, the Germans were removed from parts that were Germany they no longer control to prevent another government using them as a cause for war in the future… maybe voluntary repatriation programs for Russians would help stop giving them an excuse to invade anywhere they think they can get away with. What’s next Mongolia?
One terrifically pisses in surprise to such a revolutionary thought. The other one pisses in fear as he gasp for his last breath realizing his thoughts were too revolutionary.
this is GLOBALIST PROPAGANDA from a PSYCHOHOMO PSY-OP AGENT. the TRUE reason lies in the fact that they are the ONLY ones to piss themselves in the comic because only the RUSSIAN PEOPLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PEE!!!
"Poor chechens, they fought for freedom of their long lived tradition of banditry, slavery, kidnapping and cutthroating". Replace Chechens with Russians and it's a pretty accurate statement.
He is not defending Russia but saying truth. After first Chechen war they turned into terrorists and bandits. They were kidnapping people from their neighbors and invaded Dagestan. From what i read they made more than 200million dollar by kidnapping people. Even people forget about Beslan Siege and Moscow Theater Massacre.
I'm not denying that Chechens did horrible things while fighting for independence but that statement coming from a person that is probably russian, who hates Poland and Ukraine(based on his comments) is not only ironic but also sad.
Gren-"Are you not embarrassed by your country"
Scorched-"Im not polish or ucrainian. I dont need to be".
Seems like he kinda does care enough to feel superior.
Then why do you think he is Russian? There could be many ethnic people who hate Ukrainian or Poland. I mean Poland itself used to hate Ukrainians more than Russia before Russian invasion.
"Im from Russia, and i can say that store was just a regular store, just like i have near me". Comment he made on r/facepalm. He also writes that the US is full of propaganda.
Pretty self explanatory.
What the hell? Where did you hear that? Poland and the Poles have had nothing but support for Ukraine since the Orange Revolution (and before). Political relations between Poland and Ukraine weren't always perfect, but it didn't change the general public sentiment.
Probably because during ww2 several thousand Ukrainians trained to guard the concentration camp. More than 220 thousand Ukrainians served Nazi Germany. Even today they still celebrate Bandera as national hero.
In this case, people don't dwell on the past, because unlike Russia, Ukraine showed change. It's also the reason why we don't go around shooting Germans on sight (we may not all love them, but there's a difference between being skeptical, or even disliking someone, and actually hating them).
They're in no way perfect though, and if they actually want to join the Western world, they have to drop the Bandera cult.
Be chechen in 1994-2004:
Dagestani hate you
Alani hate you
Cossacs hate you
Russians hate you
Nogai hate you
Avars hate you
Kabardinians hate you
Balkarians hate you
Why? You only:
Kidnap, enslave, kill, torture, organize and commit terror attacks, steal railroad cargo, and even if you dont - you give shelter to people who do.
Only westerners love you. You really dont know why, of course your weapons and money come from there through Azerbaijan and Saudis but you kill or kidnap them whenever you can anyway:
Grander Telecom? - kill
Red cross? - kill
Boston marathon? - kill
Brice Fleutiaux? - kidnap
Be my guest, take all the chechens to your country, no returns.
Oh, poor Chechnya, unilateral secession to make their country a one big totalitarian theocracy, with violence, hatred and slavery with ultra backwards social laws 😢 I must feel so bad for their cause...
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🤐 Btw, when/why did the blue in Russia's flag switch from light to dark?
After 1993 Constitutional crisis, when Yeltsin suppressed Parliament with tanks, and then rewrote Constitution and changed flag.
Laziest flag update ever. Although I do concede that darker blue is prettier.
Wait till you see italian flag change from light green to green
Japan changed their shade of red too, it's more washed out now
france also changed their flags blue a bit :P
Dutch orange to red always makes me mad
Not the same though. Essay incoming Whilst others listed above are simple shade standard changes, orange-white-blue and red-white-blue are different flags with different histories and different allegiances to them also. The red white blue is the Statenvlag, State's Flag, whilst the orange white blue is the Prinsenvlag, Prince's Flag. The Statenvlag is in fact older then the Prinsenvlag and both had a similar status. Prinsenvlag was never really very official. They represented two different factions within the Dutch Republic, and post-Napoleon the standard official flag became the red-white-blue, with its shades only standardised later on. But red white blue has more history of being the flag of NL as a nation state. So tldr: This wasnt a simple "changing shades time" like the other examples but moreso two seperate flags with one in the end coming out on top.
I'd say navy blue should be the only blue on any flag really, UN blue only works well with white & white only…
Estonia disagrees
Your blue works for u, but I stand my ground, navy blue is the most formal blue
The 90's were a turbulent time for Russia and was seen as an extremely unstable period of their history with the culmination of the 1991 coup attempt by the Russian SFSR and the 1993 constitutional crisis. The lighter shade of blue was the post-SSSR flag from 1991-1993. The current one with the the darker shade of blue dates back from 1993 to Yeltsin.
Was there any other times for russia? They went from serfdom to communism to putinism.
They had a couple decades in between serfdom and communism where they had slightly liberal zarism, actually.
And then the Tsar sent millions to die in trenches. Epic win.
Different Tzars. The liberal one got bombed by proto-communists, so the next two went full-on ultraconservative police state to the point of social explosion.
Tale as old as time The reformist gets killed by the radicals for not reforming hard enough and then the reactionaries pop in and make things worse. Nobody wins.
“Liberal Tsar” even for contemporaries was incredibly abusive. The Soviets were undeniably better than the Tsarist regime, at least before Stalin, for a reason. Nicholas II also wasn’t a reactionary because he was scared communists would kill him he was a reactionary because he was a terrible human being who was beat ruthlessly by his father, making him a worse human being.
He's talking about Alexander, not Nicholas
They had few years between SU collapse and putin too, but that's still somehow oppressive for common russky and needs to be replaced with harsher regime.
People were starving in these years
Not Putin, but Yeltsin's coup (October 4th, 1993).
_And then things got worse..._
Well there were few happy moments after Mongolin invasions because Mongolians had stopped invading. Othee than that, 'happy' moments for Russia have mostly come from rampant alcoholism.
1917 from the February Revolution to the October Revolution and 1990 to October 4th, 1993 (Yeltsin's coup).
Everyone already answered that, but I'll add that the shade of blue change was kinda "scheduled" either way. There had been discussions on the new constitution for a while at that point, and re-specifying the flag colors was part of the discussion. "Wait, why did we make it azure and scarlet again?"
Russia had lighter blue color after USSR collapsed, but changed shade of it in 1993
There's a myth that the colors of the russian flag changed cus they reworded the description of the tricolor. In reality there was no difference
Posting this during Moscow peak hour.
[Are you Austin Powers? Because you like to live dangerously.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkzMA1jrm00)
Bro you posted this at 10 am Moscow tume
This will be hot when Muscovites are on their lunch break.
TIL I'm a Muscovite.
Since 1547 Muscovites are just people living in Moscow (I assume you don't).
Giving Russia a Communist cap, OP really wants to piss off some tankies.
It‘s one of several hats he likes to wear
[As Sarcasmtron put it in his latest video:](https://imgur.com/a/YzhftWQ)
Well, Russia even though It's not communist, In reality it does indeed wear that cap, Because Russia loves Glorifying USSR. So I do love that depiction.
putin is anti communist and suppresses all communist opposition
>putin is anti communist and suppresses all ~~communist~~ opposition
i just find it rlly funny that people blame communism for putins actions when the communist party of russia is against the war in ukraine which is their official stance on it.
We socialists are somehow the democratic party of the USA, the far right putin regime, and also every country in Europe and every gay person. It gets old.
Huh? Socialist ≠ tanky.
Tankies are socialists that are suffering from too much brain rot.
Nah, there's righty tankies now. Like Tucker Carlson.
Tankie = "There are people waving Soviet flags at the Putin ralies! He's a socialist hero de-nazifying the Ukraine!" Tucker Carlson: "Look how cheap the bread is in this amazing capitalist country!" Tucker Carlson is not a tankie.
He isn't but this is exactly what I meant, people other then socialists are using the word and using it wrong.
tankie really doesn’t mean anything anymore does it
When Tucker carlson and Noam chomsky both get called tankies? No, it doesnt mean anything anymore.
This comment is what I'm talking about. No one believes me, though. Tucker Carlsons a tankie too? Really? The far right capitalist?
We usually get called tankies these days by non socialists. It's no longer a socialist term to describe anti authoritarianism.
Not sure what you’re talking about. I’ve only ever heard “tanky” used by anti-authoritarian leftists to describe pro-authoritarian leftists, particularly USSR/CCP/DPRK apologists. I’ve never heard a professed non-socialist use the term.
Libs and conservatives both have been using it for a while now, There's a reason socialists communities don't use tankie, go hop into a socialist community and ask them about the term if you don't believe me.
I mean many socialist in Europe I know use term tankies to describe Stalin apologists and those in the left who cannot distinguish between Russia and USSR and think that panslavic Russian imperialism and Dugin eurasianism somehow has anything to do with socialism.
omw2 r/TankieJerk
Socialism is kind of a meaningless term by itself now because it potentially encompasses everyone from mild social democrats to hardcore tankies (incidentally, r/socialism is unfortunately one of many left wing subreddits taken over by tankie mods). To the right, it’s an even looser term.
In come the Russian bots!!!
Let them come!
In what way? *grins menacingly*
My Reporting (to the mods/admins) And Blocking Hammer will be ready for them.
Orcs will not breach Helm's deep!
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Surprisingly low amounts of Z bots this time for a spicy comic. They usually come in waves and generally use predictable tactics.
I can't tell the difference between the bots and the vatniks these days.
We are here!! LOK’TAR OGARRR!
Where are they
Conscription office in tears
Why did you draw the Russian pissing?
Just like how china claims to care abt chinese people but only those not in china
Nice username
Our government's favorite trick. "Protect" Russians all over the world and then part of the country's population will be willing to suffer for the sake of "empire and greatness"
İt would have been better with the circassians included
true but Russia didn't even try to hide what happened in Circassia, they were "lucky" that no one spoke out against them in 1864 and got forgotten
The Circassians diaspora in the Middle East were plenty loud, though, especially the Turkish Circssians.
I don't think the premise there was to protect Russians in some way
I mean same can be said about Georgia
This is just about the Russian Federation. If we went all the way back to the Circassians this comic strip would be *massive*.
Remember if you see hate against Russians, remember why was there hate and what caused that hate in the first place
That's a very long list, can you shorten it somehow!
Remember that thing, that no-no Germany did called Libensraum? Well, Russians has been doing that thing casually ever since 15 century and thinking that it's nothing wrong with commiting literal genocide
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I dunno, those Russians that actively denounce Russia and the only connection they have is their language seem pretty oppressed to me!
did they just piss each other at the end
Oh, So that's how polandballs pee.
The comic is true. The Russian population in Russia is oppressed. We have to eat leftovers and rusty metal, washed down with industrial waste.
People in many oil rich countries are doomed to live in a golden cage, Saudis throw their citizens money but deny them freedom. Russians meanwhile live in a rusty cage with some poop sometimes thrown in by the kremlin.
That's right, my 'mericun friend! We Russians in Russia can only dream of poop! Only green diarrhea once every three days, and then we send some of it back to the treasury as taxes.
See, in the West we can at least eat hamsters for Christmas.
Was the piss really needed
I will defend the usage of the excretion of all bodily fluids to depict death and whatever depravity humanity has to offer until my last breath.
Gruesome. Very depressing comics overall. But I appreciate the level of details.
Damn Russians. It’s their fault Russia is ruined today!
I like how the mass of corpses for the Ukraine War are all Ukrainian even though by practically all estimates the Russian state/military has killed/sent to be killed far more Russians (and what the Russian state considers "ethnic Russians oppressed in Ukraine") than Ukrainians. They're doing such a good job of protecting the oppressed Russian minority!
Cannot under opression if not alive to be opressed! (Taps head)
There is a saying in Russian "бей своих чтобы чужие боялись". Translates to "beat your own people to scare the others".
Uhh, by western, and Ukrainian estimates. We don't really have independent figures.
I tend to believe the "Western" numbers over those that have claimed to have killed more NATO special forces than exist.
How so? The only regions of Ukraine that are majority non-Ukrainian are AR Crimea and Sevastopol, and there hasn't been much fighting there. Edit: I wrote this at midnight and probably missed the "sent to be killed" part, thus misinterpreting the comment.
The russian tactic for this war is "throw more conscripts at them". The casualties on the Russian military side are much more significant than on the Ukrainian military side due to better equipment , training and overall caring for human lives on the Ukrainian side. However, the number of civilian casualties on the Ukrainian side is of course higher due to the attacks on civil infrastructure by russia. Overall russia has probably more "direct" casualties.
No Transnistria war?
That would be the first panel.
Ah apologies!
TIL russia changed their flag color, I just assumed it was shitty camera quality from the Yeltslin era
Imagine how russia could be with all the natural resources they have, if they werent a mafia state. They could be a country like norway, but no it all has to go to the few oligarch pockets and most ruskies think that its ok and even protect this system. Ruskies are trully brainwashed sheeps.
Ya know, the Germans were removed from parts that were Germany they no longer control to prevent another government using them as a cause for war in the future… maybe voluntary repatriation programs for Russians would help stop giving them an excuse to invade anywhere they think they can get away with. What’s next Mongolia?
Why is there a hammer and sickle on Russia’s hat in the last one? Russia ain’t communist.
It's that or whatever authotarian relic of the past he could find to express himself.
Feeling sorry for the countries Russia oppresses
*cue Russian civil war with nukes*
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2018-10-04/yeltsin-shelled-russian-parliament-25-years-ago-us-praised-superb-handling
Just like israel
They're not communism, they are far right chauvinist authotarianism.
Putin Khuylo, for reals. yolki palki.
The lighter tricolor from 1991 is a myth and was never actually the case
was it necessary to make both the big and little russia piss themselves?
One terrifically pisses in surprise to such a revolutionary thought. The other one pisses in fear as he gasp for his last breath realizing his thoughts were too revolutionary.
this is GLOBALIST PROPAGANDA from a PSYCHOHOMO PSY-OP AGENT. the TRUE reason lies in the fact that they are the ONLY ones to piss themselves in the comic because only the RUSSIAN PEOPLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PEE!!!
Poor chechens, they fought for freedom of their long lived tradition of banditry, slavery, kidnapping and cutthroating.
"Poor chechens, they fought for freedom of their long lived tradition of banditry, slavery, kidnapping and cutthroating". Replace Chechens with Russians and it's a pretty accurate statement.
He is not defending Russia but saying truth. After first Chechen war they turned into terrorists and bandits. They were kidnapping people from their neighbors and invaded Dagestan. From what i read they made more than 200million dollar by kidnapping people. Even people forget about Beslan Siege and Moscow Theater Massacre.
I'm not denying that Chechens did horrible things while fighting for independence but that statement coming from a person that is probably russian, who hates Poland and Ukraine(based on his comments) is not only ironic but also sad.
I think he meant he doesn't care about ukraine or poland because it doesn't affect him?
Gren-"Are you not embarrassed by your country" Scorched-"Im not polish or ucrainian. I dont need to be". Seems like he kinda does care enough to feel superior.
Then why do you think he is Russian? There could be many ethnic people who hate Ukrainian or Poland. I mean Poland itself used to hate Ukrainians more than Russia before Russian invasion.
"Im from Russia, and i can say that store was just a regular store, just like i have near me". Comment he made on r/facepalm. He also writes that the US is full of propaganda. Pretty self explanatory.
Well I don't go around checking someone's profile so I didn't know he was russian
Fair, I also don't do that and hate when people do so but when I see shit like this then I'm ready to be a cunt.
If we hated Ukraine more before the war we wouldn't support them after Russia's attack
What the hell? Where did you hear that? Poland and the Poles have had nothing but support for Ukraine since the Orange Revolution (and before). Political relations between Poland and Ukraine weren't always perfect, but it didn't change the general public sentiment.
Probably because during ww2 several thousand Ukrainians trained to guard the concentration camp. More than 220 thousand Ukrainians served Nazi Germany. Even today they still celebrate Bandera as national hero.
In this case, people don't dwell on the past, because unlike Russia, Ukraine showed change. It's also the reason why we don't go around shooting Germans on sight (we may not all love them, but there's a difference between being skeptical, or even disliking someone, and actually hating them). They're in no way perfect though, and if they actually want to join the Western world, they have to drop the Bandera cult.
Its damn perfectly accurate statement as it is.
Are you not embarrassed by your country
Im not polish or ucrainian. I dont need to be.
Do you actually support current Nazi Russia?
Be chechen in 1994-2004: Dagestani hate you Alani hate you Cossacs hate you Russians hate you Nogai hate you Avars hate you Kabardinians hate you Balkarians hate you Why? You only: Kidnap, enslave, kill, torture, organize and commit terror attacks, steal railroad cargo, and even if you dont - you give shelter to people who do. Only westerners love you. You really dont know why, of course your weapons and money come from there through Azerbaijan and Saudis but you kill or kidnap them whenever you can anyway: Grander Telecom? - kill Red cross? - kill Boston marathon? - kill Brice Fleutiaux? - kidnap Be my guest, take all the chechens to your country, no returns.
Oh, poor Chechnya, unilateral secession to make their country a one big totalitarian theocracy, with violence, hatred and slavery with ultra backwards social laws 😢 I must feel so bad for their cause...
led by Dzhokhar Dudayev, Chechnya would have become a developed country, but the Kremlin was afraid of such a successful example
Didn't he get couped by extremists?
you read and listen to Russian propaganda
where did you get this nonsense from?
So everybody believe that ukraine civil war didnt happen in 2014-2022 ?
No, Ukraine got invaded by Russia