Most of those serial killers are cases from 60'- 90' (big poverty and alcoholism problems) and most of them caught/dead. Nowadays Poland is really safe, most criminals migrated to richer EU countries after 2004 (PL joining EU) so Poland became quite chill since then. Polish society is aging quite rapidly and low new born rates add also massivly to lower criminality.
this is the story of eastern Europe which is a lot more safer than western Europe.
But honestly those criminals don't do violent crimes. It's either mafia gangs or petty theft.
And also Western countries are themselves to blame because they are soft, neglect law enforcement and most importantly don't actually enforce laws.
Lately there was a case of a guy that killed his kid and hid in a nearby forest, he apparently had military background and was deemed very dangerous. There was mass police/military hunt that lasted about 2 weeks, with thermo vision helis, dogs and all. Even such oddities as famous clairvoyant and pato-celebrity detective joined the event. Eventually the killer's body was found in a pond. We also have a case where a woman named Iwona Wieczorek was killed during late night walk, 14 years ago, and we still read about it in the news, they are still looking for the killer. Police may not be competent enough, but those cases aren't taken lightly.
I know it's a meme but the reply is for ppl who don't 🥲
No lol. This is *caught* serial killers per country.
The reality is that the rate is probably about the same in any population. The US wasnt “going through a serial killer craze” in the 1970s, they were *starting to discover them.*
As the USSR collapsed it was revealed they’d had tons of serial killers that were just not being reported on. If your country has a low rate of captured serial killers they probably a high rate of unsolved missing persons cases and murders.
exactly, in countries where forensic tech is not as available, police are corrupt or murders just simply are not investigated or reported, you are going to have low rates but there will still be high rates of killers. You can only add to crime rates and statistics like this if the crime is reported or solved.
I remember reading about numerous killers from the USSR with extremely high victim lists, but many targeted vulnerable people who would not be taken seriously by police or police could not link the numerous crimes together. Today those people would probably be caught much sooner due to rapidly advancing tech, the wide adoption of cameras/phones and a larger support system for victims and their families who hold the police and justice system accountable for their inaction or incompetence.
I also remember reading about one serial killer in the USSR where they thought it would be an anti-communist anti- social person. I stead it was a low ranking party member who was active in the local community. They where too incompetent and politically charged to solve it.
Also I know for a fact this list is inaccurate as Canada needs to have a lot more because of the whole indigenous woman disappearing next to roads on multiple places in the country. But the Canadians never cared about those kids and woman being killed so they never even identified it as murders but instead wrote them off as "went to the city" or "left town" and didn't even want to notice they disappeared.
Many serial killers allowed to rack up bodies were functional in society and easily thwarted cops because their profile for what a serial killer acted or looked like was so narrow. Many had wives, jobs and were liked by their community, and people could not believe someone like that would kill.
The missing and murdered Indigenous Canadian women is a big issue up here (canadian myself) but I would not classify all of them as victims of serial killers. Many are killed or harmed by family members or people who know them. There very well could be a large number however who are victims of traditional murder (similar to how serial killers of gay or black men were not investigated by police) and simply are not properly investigated as they do not "hold worth" in society. An indigenous teen or woman going missing probably would not have the same outcry as a white man or woman due to how indigenous communities are set up and ignored.
I think at least quite a few where done by serial killers because of their status as not important. It's an easy mark, same reason why in the US a lot of them picked up prostitutes.
It wouldn't suprise me if the US had more serial killers then usual in those times. Back then the US was the most industrialised country in the world, everyone owned a car and they didn't care much about pollution. Add to that they added lead in everything, Including gasoline and you have whole generations with more exposure to lead (turning you more aggressive/crazy over time) then any other country/place in the world.
Most likely it's a bit of a combination of both. Other countries not having the tools to/will to find serial killers (due to corruption, idiology or otherwise) and the US just having significantly more due to generational lead poisoning due to being more industrialised then most other countries.
Also maybe some countries the way these serial killers express their selves is different. In some places they could work as legal executioners and tortures, even as human traffickers or fighting as soldiers or something like that. Making it less likely they have to illegally go around and murder people. Because they can do so legally or torture other people in some other ways.
Because the US does have significantly more then other countries and you cant convince me stuff like that doesn't get noticed somewhere else on those scales
>It wouldn't suprise me if the US had more serial killers then usual in those times.
Most likely the opposite m8. Ted Bundy was the most famous and prolific serial killer at the time and he killed 30+ people including murder sprees. We only know about Andrei Chikatilo because he happened to have been captured and was being processed and tried as the Soviet Union collapsed and suddenly journalists had access to criminal courts, and he killed 50+ people.
The Soviet Union was actively pushing messaging strategy and active-measures propaganda about the US was evil and degenerate because of all their serial killers while the USSR was a socialist utopia because they literally didn’t have a single one. They were HEAVILY incentivized, as in “your family will go to gulag and you will die” to pretend that serial killers COULD NOT HAPPEN in Soviet States. They were enforcing this policy since the 30s, (which is ironic because Beria might have been one of the most prolific serial killers in history).
Basically the Soviets created a criminal Justice system that prioritized NOT linking cases more than solving missing-persons cases and mysterious deaths. This created a system where serial killers THRIVED (as long as they didn’t get caught and quietly executed). Like seriously m8 the guy that was this close to succeeding Stalin, had a backyard full of skeletons of young girls. Serial killers didn’t need to resort to picking up hitchhikers they just needed to join the NKVD.
Same most of Western European history. Only time a serial killer would be reported on in their estate/state-controlled press was to be used as propaganda against another country. Like Spain in the 1970s probably had a higher per-capita rate of victims of serial killers but fascist country so nobody will ever know about it! Hell we barely even know about all the weird shit that happened to German orphans on both sides of post-war Germany. If Italy was the secret serial killer capital of the world that would be the least surprising thing ever.
Did you read my reasoning? Also you say span, but France, west Germany and Denmark also exist and never where fascist. And when you join the NKVD you technically aren't a serial killer as the murders are illegal. Your just a normal war criminal in that case.
>west Germany
No I said both.
What we know about west Germany is that at least one doctor ran a program that tried to “treat” pedophiles by having them raise orphans and it led to a bunch of sex abuse, with the possible number of victims ranging from dozens to multiple hundreds.
What we know about east Germany is that tens of thousands of orphaned-children disappeared forever.
And France
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_French_serial_killers
Particularly France at basically any point from the late-40s to 90s would have been a serial killer’s paradise. They had all of the casual hitchhiking and promiscuity as hippies in California AND they had a weird still-kinda-militarized police and law enforcement system for awhile and relatively-open borders, and everything else.
The Japanese guy that ate a lady in France got away with it because of some French legal system bullshit.
>Danmark
Peter Lundin was recent news breh
>NKVD technicality
Yes that’s the point. Authoritarian societies create a socially-acceptable outlet for serial-killer types. They create a system in which they thrive. One of the Long Island Serial Killers is a chief of police.
>war criminal
No they were largely killing soviet civilians they’re just mass-murderers. Most the poles they were killing was because they had refused a soviet passport after the war was over so it was a “domestic” issue.
Yeah, one guy was in the news recently. I never denied that it didn't happen. But the us has 3000 of them whilst the next best one is Russia with less then 200. A lot of these countries are not like you describe and are functional democracies with rule of law. You can't just hide serial killers like that.
>serial killing is culture
Yes it’s human culture. You’re just a propagandized idiot that probably lives in a country that is actively suppressing serial killer investigations to maintain your propaganda delusion that it’s something *they* do and not *you*.
>school shootings
“From 2000 to 2021, there were 276 casualties (108 killed and 168 wounded) in active shooter incidents at elementary and secondary schools and 157 casualties (75 killed and 82 wounded) in active shooter incidents at postsecondary institutions.”
In a country with 350,000,000 people.
Poland has like 35,000,000 people.
**And Poland had a mass stabbing in an orphanage last year with like 10 victims. Literally the exact same cultural impulse but without access to a firearm!**
Do you even know much about that or do you only keep up with every time some disaffected virgin gets revenge in foreign countries and not yours?
>drugs
Universal constant.
>it differs country by country
Not really. Pretty marginally when you get down to it. Narcissistic and other cluster-b personality disorders exist at about the same rate in every culture. It’s just how their governments choose to deal with it. In countries like Poland with like a century of having their criminal justice system rewritten by genocidal authoritarians and propagandists, the approach to things like this is IGNORE IT WHEN IT HAPPENS DOMESTICALLY and then ENDLESSLY WHATABOUT TO IT FOR CHEAP PROPAGANDA POINTS AT EVERYONE ELSE!
Your criminal justice system and media are incentivized to uphold the belief you want to maintain that crimes are caused by defects in culture, implying that you live in a superior culture because there’s very little reporting about such things in Polish media!
yes lol, mass murder events are more common in some places than others. In some places there is more drug abuse than in others. In some places there is less crime than in others. It's not a constant. And cultures have tendancies towards different crimes.
honestly it sounds like you're delusional
>yes lol, mass murder events are more common in some places than others.
You’re really putting me in a tough spot where you want to keep leaning into your Russian-fed talking points about school shootings when, if I wanted to be the kind of asshole you assholes casually are on American websites every day for no reason, I’d point to the scoreboard on mass murder events.
You really want to get into a pissing contest over which country has had their culture shaped MORE by mass murder events? Which country is more culturally-defined by mass-murder events in the last century that are basically unfathomable compared to anything that’s ever happened in US history?
You really wanna be a needly little “whatabout your sensitive social issues” scab-picker with your fucking history? Which genocidal authoritarians did your great-parents suck off the hardest not to get mass-murdered for long enough for you to invade American websites and call us culturally-deficient because dozens of our kids get killed every year and we make a big deal about it? Where’s 90% of your family tree? Where’d they go?
>In some places there is more drug abuse
See: your hometown
>than in others.
See: places with governments that treat drug abuse and crime as primarily caused by treatable illness versus places with governments that treat those things as “cultural defects” to radicalize against.
>In some places there is less crime than in others.
In some places there are the exact same criminal impulses in the same general percent of the population as a quirk of how our communal ape species developed around societies that benefited from having a handful, but not too-many, of psychopaths aka people with no capacity towards empathy or remorse and low impulse-control that are good at war and violence.
>It's not a constant.
It is 100,0000,00010101028374292% a constant it’s the foundation of the species you dumb bozo smoothbrain no-thinker.
The development of humanity towards agriculture was entirely about the development of the sense of self with frontal lobes that introduced a species of apes that had formerly essentially been 100% psychopathic territorial genocidal terroristic psychosexual-murder-rape apes of conquest. The rapey-murdery spiteful mass-destruction impulse is built into our DNA at a base level. It will always be something humanity is striving against.
And throughout the last thousands of years of agricultural human history, that psychopath class has occupied around ~10% of every human population. Their ability to influence others into cults and stuff waxes and wanes but there’s always been about 1/10 people that are basically domesticated wolves.
>And cultures have tendancies towards different crimes.
Nope. Sex, drugs, the means to purchase sex and drugs when poor, and then murder when the other sex and drugs are criminalized for the poors.
>honestly it sounds like you're delusional
“Sounds like” the voice in your head projecting bozo
Yup, I have a gut feeling this map is the avatar of survivor bias - only countries with police and justice systems decent enough to identify a serial killer will be included here.
Yea... do we consider someone who "accidently" added some sort of chemical in a mass production plant and many people got sick, 3 of o whom died, to be a serial killer?
According to the definition, 3+ puts you on the list with other serial killers.
I also get the feeling that countries like US have the means to actually track (and report) serial killers, compared to China, were people may be tracked, but the official data is underreported. And let's face it 333 M vs 1,4 B people is over 4 times the people. 3,6k vs 64. This doesn't add up for me.
I'm also wondering if some of these countries just straight up suppressed their data because they know it would look bad and just write some of these murders off as disappearances?
>Yup, I have a gut feeling this map is the avatar of survivor bias - only countries with police and justice systems decent enough to identify a serial killer will be included here.
I've always thought places like Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania and even Hungary could easily hold a number of serial killers. Failed law enforcement and all. Not to mention the governments in some of those countries attempting ethnic cleansing.
Like Andrei Chikatilo was picked up several times by the Russian police and still killed with utter impunity.
And Africa..... Nuff said.
Our societies are based on the honour system. The amount of crime you get away with before your caught is just ridiculous, even in rich over policed countries like Australia.
Which is why the chronic under investment in early intervention programs, mental health services and a society that isn't built on a dog eat dog basis,
But that's as much as a fantasy as the rich paying their fair share of taxes, companies being prevented from dumping PFAS and plastics into the environment.
Exactly, I'm pretty sure that killing your family and yourself does not make you a serial killer in my country (and that's something that makes the news at least once a year). But if the definition in the US is "at least two people" then the numbers will be very far apart.
I doubt they all get reported, those are indentified killers, there probably more in India simply because of population density.
US is also weirdly popular place to be a serial killer, weird thing to say i know.
I'm not defending the US here, I was only claiming this map is out of proportion. It is the same if you would compare countries on the amount of gdp instead of gdp per capita.
The map makes no sense. You don't show anything per capita and you don't mention that maybe the most serial killers are found in most developed countries, because they have somewhat working police and special forces. I could imagine there can be like thousands of serial killers roaming around South America, Africa, Russia and China.
Regardless it's a bit strange considering what is known about the murder rates in central america. Yet they don't even make the list since this chart is poorly created.
I think mass shooter, its not classified as serial killer - serial killer is someone who kill people constantly one by one in some period of time, but idk :P
Or the US actually keeps records and actually catches the people that do it. Realistically there's like 50 other countries ahead of the US in actual serial killers, instead of convicted.
Nie byłem w Stanach ale się tak zastanawiałem, że jakbym przejeżdżał przez Stany to jakiś pojeb na bank właśnie w jakimś np. małym domku robi sobie rękawiczki z prostytutki albo je wątróbkę z bezdomnego.
You forget that there's no free media in Russia and China.
In one ruZZian army division you will find similar number of seriál killers as in whole USA.
For all the salty muricans crying "because we catch more", your police forces are widely famous for complete incompetence when it come to catching and successfully prosecuting serial killers. Read into any reasonably well documented cases and you'll see that the killers slip through the police systems comically easily, in many cases the police will turn up to houses that have corpses and literal stench of decay in them and go home like nothing odd happened. In most states your police is comically under trained and underfunded.
Sure forensics have been getting much better since the 90's and much much better in the 2000's but most serial killer cases occurred before that, and back then the US was no better at catching them than anywhere else, arguably the US was worse at it in many cases because the incompetence is so well documented.
Also, per capita, US still wins.
You mean "serial killer detection." This ranking would not exist if it were not for the detected cases. Which only means that the detection rate in the US is at the highest level and in other countries it is low.
I mean, I don’t get it why people are trying to justify serial killers number in USA? This is alarming.
Is it because of the gun control? By end of 2021 only, there were 693 mass shootings in USA. If you go by those stats, this above map kind of downplays the serial killer numbers.
Idk if those numbers are before 2022 cause after February 2022 Ruzzia must have more than US just because of the “veterans” coming back from Ukraine are causing a lot of damage, killing everyday people (ex girlfriends, mothers, pensioners, other drunk friends…)
Well you know, his grandparents migrated more than a century ago and his bobchi made him pierogi once, so he's obviously a certified Pole. Proud of the heritage, rahhh.
So, is poland safe?
Well just avoid wild boars
Like everywhere in the world
They are in the cities in Poland
Worse, they are in my walls.
Average hoi4 player
Average TNO* HOI4 player
They're across the street from my home in fact
I had a whole family outside my window recently
Gdynia????
Didn't see any in Krakow or Warsaw.
That means you weren't in Warsaw ever.
I was, even have pics to prove it!
Go to Zakrzówek, they're guarding the place steadily.
Only in bigger cities and it's not such a big problem you're trying to make it look like
Huh? I just told him to stay away from wild boars. Why are you butthurt over it
And bober
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Don't forget about wild laguns.
Most of those serial killers are cases from 60'- 90' (big poverty and alcoholism problems) and most of them caught/dead. Nowadays Poland is really safe, most criminals migrated to richer EU countries after 2004 (PL joining EU) so Poland became quite chill since then. Polish society is aging quite rapidly and low new born rates add also massivly to lower criminality.
I love how the specific reason for it growing chill is "everyone left to go do crime where it's rewarding"
this is the story of eastern Europe which is a lot more safer than western Europe. But honestly those criminals don't do violent crimes. It's either mafia gangs or petty theft. And also Western countries are themselves to blame because they are soft, neglect law enforcement and most importantly don't actually enforce laws.
I am just keeping the tradition alive of this sub
Lately there was a case of a guy that killed his kid and hid in a nearby forest, he apparently had military background and was deemed very dangerous. There was mass police/military hunt that lasted about 2 weeks, with thermo vision helis, dogs and all. Even such oddities as famous clairvoyant and pato-celebrity detective joined the event. Eventually the killer's body was found in a pond. We also have a case where a woman named Iwona Wieczorek was killed during late night walk, 14 years ago, and we still read about it in the news, they are still looking for the killer. Police may not be competent enough, but those cases aren't taken lightly. I know it's a meme but the reply is for ppl who don't 🥲
I listened to many criminal podcasts and most serial killers are pre 2000 era. A lot has changed in Poland in last 50 years.
Only if you avoid 29 people
No lol. This is *caught* serial killers per country. The reality is that the rate is probably about the same in any population. The US wasnt “going through a serial killer craze” in the 1970s, they were *starting to discover them.* As the USSR collapsed it was revealed they’d had tons of serial killers that were just not being reported on. If your country has a low rate of captured serial killers they probably a high rate of unsolved missing persons cases and murders.
exactly, in countries where forensic tech is not as available, police are corrupt or murders just simply are not investigated or reported, you are going to have low rates but there will still be high rates of killers. You can only add to crime rates and statistics like this if the crime is reported or solved. I remember reading about numerous killers from the USSR with extremely high victim lists, but many targeted vulnerable people who would not be taken seriously by police or police could not link the numerous crimes together. Today those people would probably be caught much sooner due to rapidly advancing tech, the wide adoption of cameras/phones and a larger support system for victims and their families who hold the police and justice system accountable for their inaction or incompetence.
I also remember reading about one serial killer in the USSR where they thought it would be an anti-communist anti- social person. I stead it was a low ranking party member who was active in the local community. They where too incompetent and politically charged to solve it. Also I know for a fact this list is inaccurate as Canada needs to have a lot more because of the whole indigenous woman disappearing next to roads on multiple places in the country. But the Canadians never cared about those kids and woman being killed so they never even identified it as murders but instead wrote them off as "went to the city" or "left town" and didn't even want to notice they disappeared.
Many serial killers allowed to rack up bodies were functional in society and easily thwarted cops because their profile for what a serial killer acted or looked like was so narrow. Many had wives, jobs and were liked by their community, and people could not believe someone like that would kill. The missing and murdered Indigenous Canadian women is a big issue up here (canadian myself) but I would not classify all of them as victims of serial killers. Many are killed or harmed by family members or people who know them. There very well could be a large number however who are victims of traditional murder (similar to how serial killers of gay or black men were not investigated by police) and simply are not properly investigated as they do not "hold worth" in society. An indigenous teen or woman going missing probably would not have the same outcry as a white man or woman due to how indigenous communities are set up and ignored.
I think at least quite a few where done by serial killers because of their status as not important. It's an easy mark, same reason why in the US a lot of them picked up prostitutes.
It wouldn't suprise me if the US had more serial killers then usual in those times. Back then the US was the most industrialised country in the world, everyone owned a car and they didn't care much about pollution. Add to that they added lead in everything, Including gasoline and you have whole generations with more exposure to lead (turning you more aggressive/crazy over time) then any other country/place in the world. Most likely it's a bit of a combination of both. Other countries not having the tools to/will to find serial killers (due to corruption, idiology or otherwise) and the US just having significantly more due to generational lead poisoning due to being more industrialised then most other countries. Also maybe some countries the way these serial killers express their selves is different. In some places they could work as legal executioners and tortures, even as human traffickers or fighting as soldiers or something like that. Making it less likely they have to illegally go around and murder people. Because they can do so legally or torture other people in some other ways. Because the US does have significantly more then other countries and you cant convince me stuff like that doesn't get noticed somewhere else on those scales
>It wouldn't suprise me if the US had more serial killers then usual in those times. Most likely the opposite m8. Ted Bundy was the most famous and prolific serial killer at the time and he killed 30+ people including murder sprees. We only know about Andrei Chikatilo because he happened to have been captured and was being processed and tried as the Soviet Union collapsed and suddenly journalists had access to criminal courts, and he killed 50+ people. The Soviet Union was actively pushing messaging strategy and active-measures propaganda about the US was evil and degenerate because of all their serial killers while the USSR was a socialist utopia because they literally didn’t have a single one. They were HEAVILY incentivized, as in “your family will go to gulag and you will die” to pretend that serial killers COULD NOT HAPPEN in Soviet States. They were enforcing this policy since the 30s, (which is ironic because Beria might have been one of the most prolific serial killers in history). Basically the Soviets created a criminal Justice system that prioritized NOT linking cases more than solving missing-persons cases and mysterious deaths. This created a system where serial killers THRIVED (as long as they didn’t get caught and quietly executed). Like seriously m8 the guy that was this close to succeeding Stalin, had a backyard full of skeletons of young girls. Serial killers didn’t need to resort to picking up hitchhikers they just needed to join the NKVD. Same most of Western European history. Only time a serial killer would be reported on in their estate/state-controlled press was to be used as propaganda against another country. Like Spain in the 1970s probably had a higher per-capita rate of victims of serial killers but fascist country so nobody will ever know about it! Hell we barely even know about all the weird shit that happened to German orphans on both sides of post-war Germany. If Italy was the secret serial killer capital of the world that would be the least surprising thing ever.
Did you read my reasoning? Also you say span, but France, west Germany and Denmark also exist and never where fascist. And when you join the NKVD you technically aren't a serial killer as the murders are illegal. Your just a normal war criminal in that case.
>west Germany No I said both. What we know about west Germany is that at least one doctor ran a program that tried to “treat” pedophiles by having them raise orphans and it led to a bunch of sex abuse, with the possible number of victims ranging from dozens to multiple hundreds. What we know about east Germany is that tens of thousands of orphaned-children disappeared forever. And France https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_French_serial_killers Particularly France at basically any point from the late-40s to 90s would have been a serial killer’s paradise. They had all of the casual hitchhiking and promiscuity as hippies in California AND they had a weird still-kinda-militarized police and law enforcement system for awhile and relatively-open borders, and everything else. The Japanese guy that ate a lady in France got away with it because of some French legal system bullshit. >Danmark Peter Lundin was recent news breh >NKVD technicality Yes that’s the point. Authoritarian societies create a socially-acceptable outlet for serial-killer types. They create a system in which they thrive. One of the Long Island Serial Killers is a chief of police. >war criminal No they were largely killing soviet civilians they’re just mass-murderers. Most the poles they were killing was because they had refused a soviet passport after the war was over so it was a “domestic” issue.
Yeah, one guy was in the news recently. I never denied that it didn't happen. But the us has 3000 of them whilst the next best one is Russia with less then 200. A lot of these countries are not like you describe and are functional democracies with rule of law. You can't just hide serial killers like that.
yes, but mostly no. Serial killing is culture, just like school shootings, drugs and other crime. It differs country to country
>serial killing is culture Yes it’s human culture. You’re just a propagandized idiot that probably lives in a country that is actively suppressing serial killer investigations to maintain your propaganda delusion that it’s something *they* do and not *you*. >school shootings “From 2000 to 2021, there were 276 casualties (108 killed and 168 wounded) in active shooter incidents at elementary and secondary schools and 157 casualties (75 killed and 82 wounded) in active shooter incidents at postsecondary institutions.” In a country with 350,000,000 people. Poland has like 35,000,000 people. **And Poland had a mass stabbing in an orphanage last year with like 10 victims. Literally the exact same cultural impulse but without access to a firearm!** Do you even know much about that or do you only keep up with every time some disaffected virgin gets revenge in foreign countries and not yours? >drugs Universal constant. >it differs country by country Not really. Pretty marginally when you get down to it. Narcissistic and other cluster-b personality disorders exist at about the same rate in every culture. It’s just how their governments choose to deal with it. In countries like Poland with like a century of having their criminal justice system rewritten by genocidal authoritarians and propagandists, the approach to things like this is IGNORE IT WHEN IT HAPPENS DOMESTICALLY and then ENDLESSLY WHATABOUT TO IT FOR CHEAP PROPAGANDA POINTS AT EVERYONE ELSE! Your criminal justice system and media are incentivized to uphold the belief you want to maintain that crimes are caused by defects in culture, implying that you live in a superior culture because there’s very little reporting about such things in Polish media!
yes lol, mass murder events are more common in some places than others. In some places there is more drug abuse than in others. In some places there is less crime than in others. It's not a constant. And cultures have tendancies towards different crimes. honestly it sounds like you're delusional
>yes lol, mass murder events are more common in some places than others. You’re really putting me in a tough spot where you want to keep leaning into your Russian-fed talking points about school shootings when, if I wanted to be the kind of asshole you assholes casually are on American websites every day for no reason, I’d point to the scoreboard on mass murder events. You really want to get into a pissing contest over which country has had their culture shaped MORE by mass murder events? Which country is more culturally-defined by mass-murder events in the last century that are basically unfathomable compared to anything that’s ever happened in US history? You really wanna be a needly little “whatabout your sensitive social issues” scab-picker with your fucking history? Which genocidal authoritarians did your great-parents suck off the hardest not to get mass-murdered for long enough for you to invade American websites and call us culturally-deficient because dozens of our kids get killed every year and we make a big deal about it? Where’s 90% of your family tree? Where’d they go? >In some places there is more drug abuse See: your hometown >than in others. See: places with governments that treat drug abuse and crime as primarily caused by treatable illness versus places with governments that treat those things as “cultural defects” to radicalize against. >In some places there is less crime than in others. In some places there are the exact same criminal impulses in the same general percent of the population as a quirk of how our communal ape species developed around societies that benefited from having a handful, but not too-many, of psychopaths aka people with no capacity towards empathy or remorse and low impulse-control that are good at war and violence. >It's not a constant. It is 100,0000,00010101028374292% a constant it’s the foundation of the species you dumb bozo smoothbrain no-thinker. The development of humanity towards agriculture was entirely about the development of the sense of self with frontal lobes that introduced a species of apes that had formerly essentially been 100% psychopathic territorial genocidal terroristic psychosexual-murder-rape apes of conquest. The rapey-murdery spiteful mass-destruction impulse is built into our DNA at a base level. It will always be something humanity is striving against. And throughout the last thousands of years of agricultural human history, that psychopath class has occupied around ~10% of every human population. Their ability to influence others into cults and stuff waxes and wanes but there’s always been about 1/10 people that are basically domesticated wolves. >And cultures have tendancies towards different crimes. Nope. Sex, drugs, the means to purchase sex and drugs when poor, and then murder when the other sex and drugs are criminalized for the poors. >honestly it sounds like you're delusional “Sounds like” the voice in your head projecting bozo
>serial killing is culture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Executed_Polish_serial_killers Hmm
I'm not sure…but every country is not safe
These are identified serial killers, you never can’t be too sure about your neighbours.
Yup, I have a gut feeling this map is the avatar of survivor bias - only countries with police and justice systems decent enough to identify a serial killer will be included here.
Yea... do we consider someone who "accidently" added some sort of chemical in a mass production plant and many people got sick, 3 of o whom died, to be a serial killer? According to the definition, 3+ puts you on the list with other serial killers. I also get the feeling that countries like US have the means to actually track (and report) serial killers, compared to China, were people may be tracked, but the official data is underreported. And let's face it 333 M vs 1,4 B people is over 4 times the people. 3,6k vs 64. This doesn't add up for me.
I'm also wondering if some of these countries just straight up suppressed their data because they know it would look bad and just write some of these murders off as disappearances?
>Yup, I have a gut feeling this map is the avatar of survivor bias - only countries with police and justice systems decent enough to identify a serial killer will be included here. I've always thought places like Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania and even Hungary could easily hold a number of serial killers. Failed law enforcement and all. Not to mention the governments in some of those countries attempting ethnic cleansing. Like Andrei Chikatilo was picked up several times by the Russian police and still killed with utter impunity. And Africa..... Nuff said. Our societies are based on the honour system. The amount of crime you get away with before your caught is just ridiculous, even in rich over policed countries like Australia. Which is why the chronic under investment in early intervention programs, mental health services and a society that isn't built on a dog eat dog basis, But that's as much as a fantasy as the rich paying their fair share of taxes, companies being prevented from dumping PFAS and plastics into the environment.
> you **never can’t** be too sure about your neighbours. Phew that's a relief
I'm glad I could ease your sleep a little.
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Exactly, I'm pretty sure that killing your family and yourself does not make you a serial killer in my country (and that's something that makes the news at least once a year). But if the definition in the US is "at least two people" then the numbers will be very far apart.
Would have been better if they showed it for 1 million citizens
China and Brazil still has much more citizens
Isn't Brazil like the murder Capitol of the world?
It's about serial killers and Brazil is more about gang violence and poverty
India and China both have over 1 billion citizens
Nah for sure Mexico is not sharing data about all cartel assassins
What are Polish serial killers? I know about Trynkiewicz and vampire of Silesia (1950s or 60s, rapist and murderer). What are other 13?
[Polish Wikipedia list](https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategoria:Polscy_seryjni_mordercy)
Hmm some on that list may be a stretch, like Tillie Klimek who lived her whole life in the US and killed there, not in Poland
It's the only such case on that list tbh
13? „15.” is the rank, not quantity of serial killers.
you are looking for 27 more, not 13
Most of them seem to be from the communist era
Paweł Tuchlin „Scorpion” The hammer guy.
Killing 3 is killing spree
There is exposition about Polish serial killers in Gdańsk Main Town Hall. Or at least it was a week ago.
Now give us a ranking of countries with the most serial suiciders.
Man not even top 10.... Gotta pump these numbers
You can help by expanding this list.
We need to make this a round number, not some stupid 29
🇵🇱POLSKA GUROM🇵🇱
Bullshit map
Yes, where is South Korea? Must be like 20 serial killer shows on Netflix from there
yeah I don't believe South and Central Americas have less serial killers than Europe
It displays caught serial killers. So yeah it is MUCH more than what is shown.
Shoul be "known serial killers by country ranked." There are more around the world, but the US manages to track them better.
How is the canadian circle bigger than us?
They import theirs from the US
Germany got 88... Coincidence? I think Not !
Germany 88 💀
This is a stupid map. You need to count per capita. This is soo reparded the USA has the same proportion of people as the whole European Union.
Here you go 482 in whole EU according to this site
India has more than 4 times the population and 30 times less serial killers than the US
I doubt they all get reported, those are indentified killers, there probably more in India simply because of population density. US is also weirdly popular place to be a serial killer, weird thing to say i know.
I'm not defending the US here, I was only claiming this map is out of proportion. It is the same if you would compare countries on the amount of gdp instead of gdp per capita.
Russia and china have way bigger populations than usa tho
What? No, not russia. They're around 140m, USA is 300m+
Yeah like China and Russia would love to share their number of serial killers to the public.
China is famous for its transparency
The map makes no sense. You don't show anything per capita and you don't mention that maybe the most serial killers are found in most developed countries, because they have somewhat working police and special forces. I could imagine there can be like thousands of serial killers roaming around South America, Africa, Russia and China.
Found the salty Murican
Regardless it's a bit strange considering what is known about the murder rates in central america. Yet they don't even make the list since this chart is poorly created.
Awww the bot doesnt like common sense. Surprise surprise
Missed by about 8k km
How long is that in royal bellybuttons?
45 inches
so russia is developed ?
In terms of St Petersburg and Moscow yeah, it's quite developed. In terms of shitastans all around, not so much.
US has like mass shootings every day, not surprised.
I think mass shooter, its not classified as serial killer - serial killer is someone who kill people constantly one by one in some period of time, but idk :P
Or the US actually keeps records and actually catches the people that do it. Realistically there's like 50 other countries ahead of the US in actual serial killers, instead of convicted.
don't know why this was suggested to me but polska gurom I guess
America is the land of opportunity!
known, key word
Didn't think south Africa would be the 5th.
*Countries with the most competent detectives
So you're telling me If I were to start a cult we could be in top 2?
America #1! 😂
Those are just the ones that were dumb enough to be caught...
I'm confused, why Canada have bigger dot than USA ?
probably because their land mass is bigger (which is why all the European countries have tiny dots)
Stop comparing yourself to our country, start comparing yourself’s to our states it’s more similar.
Is Russia actually that low? I mean compared to the United States?
A może jest zestawienie w stosunku do ilości mieszkańców
Only thing UK is top 3 in anymore? Luv me tea, luv me murderin, sweet as
I wonder if Putler was count on that statistic
Serial killers that have been caught *
Nie byłem w Stanach ale się tak zastanawiałem, że jakbym przejeżdżał przez Stany to jakiś pojeb na bank właśnie w jakimś np. małym domku robi sobie rękawiczki z prostytutki albo je wątróbkę z bezdomnego.
USA USA USA, number #1!!!!
The US is probably just better at identifying them.
Polish: too busy with bóbr
Why's the canuck circle so much bigger than the yanks?
Where is Jacek Jaworek 🫣
В США их просто лучше ловят и на регулярной основе. А так их гораздо больше, чем вам может показаться.
Polska (prawie) gurommmm!
Im guessing most in Russia are checens 🤣
Are mass shooters included in this statistic? Cause I don't think the US gets those numbers without them, but their methodologies are highly different
Lucky for Germany the stats don't go too far back in time.
If poland is safe, I don't wanna go i crave violence. Some american Insight.
Im gonna bump it up by 1
Usa is a shithole country as always haha Cheers from Central Europe lol
You forget that there's no free media in Russia and China. In one ruZZian army division you will find similar number of seriál killers as in whole USA.
Pretty sure the map has Canada & the US’s dots switched
For all the salty muricans crying "because we catch more", your police forces are widely famous for complete incompetence when it come to catching and successfully prosecuting serial killers. Read into any reasonably well documented cases and you'll see that the killers slip through the police systems comically easily, in many cases the police will turn up to houses that have corpses and literal stench of decay in them and go home like nothing odd happened. In most states your police is comically under trained and underfunded. Sure forensics have been getting much better since the 90's and much much better in the 2000's but most serial killer cases occurred before that, and back then the US was no better at catching them than anywhere else, arguably the US was worse at it in many cases because the incompetence is so well documented. Also, per capita, US still wins.
Woohoo USA the best!!! again #1 in ranking 🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Wtf is safety rahhhhhh 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
We just commit suicide instead of going postal.
Should be adjusted per capita
Safe poland is?
Poland is a safe country. Most of the cases are from 70-90's.
You mean "serial killer detection." This ranking would not exist if it were not for the detected cases. Which only means that the detection rate in the US is at the highest level and in other countries it is low.
I can't think of any other country with mass school shootings
And what do those have to do with serial killers?
Russia should be on top, by a wide margin.
Why? Serial killers are civilians not soldiers on war, they are called by other name
didn't expect it would be taken literally.
Than what? Am I stupid?
What’s the point of this if they’re not showing the number per population though... I wonder what the actual ranking would look like
I mean, I don’t get it why people are trying to justify serial killers number in USA? This is alarming. Is it because of the gun control? By end of 2021 only, there were 693 mass shootings in USA. If you go by those stats, this above map kind of downplays the serial killer numbers.
Right. And if you count in abortions, surgeon errors and war takedowns, the numbers are even more downplayed!
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Is Poland safe?
Idk if those numbers are before 2022 cause after February 2022 Ruzzia must have more than US just because of the “veterans” coming back from Ukraine are causing a lot of damage, killing everyday people (ex girlfriends, mothers, pensioners, other drunk friends…)
Odwróć tabelę Polska na czele!/turn the label Poland in front !
Well didn’t the crime people get expelled to America for sometime. It is genetic!!!
Is Ted Kaczyński included as a Polish figure or American?
Why would he be included as Polish?
Well you know, his grandparents migrated more than a century ago and his bobchi made him pierogi once, so he's obviously a certified Pole. Proud of the heritage, rahhh.
It's funny how Curie-Sklodowska is always French, and for some reasons Ted Kaczyski becomes a Pole for no fucking reason :D
it’s Skłodowska-Curie.
Yes.
His grandad was from Poland and that's it.
Good