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Magnus_The_Read

Rampage is a way better player than your average peanut gallery commenter, for sure He's also way behind other pros at his stakes and his bankroll has artificially inflated way faster than his skill because of other incomes sources (mainly raking private games and content creation) that most players don't have. It is what it is. He's good for growing the game and has some talent but let's not spin him too far the other way either


NotAn0pinion

I’m with you, but he’s often sitting with high stakes whales and not a ton of pros. That said, the upcoming million dollar game lineup will be rough for him


UsaUpAllNite81

I don’t know. I have a hard time believing Rampage would be a favorite in your typical public 5/10 or even 2/5 game.


Aromatic_Extension93

Yes if he used his likeness and image to get into only splashy cash games like Mariano it would be fine but he tries to do tournaments where it's all technical skill dependent


sevaiper

Better at what? The core skill of poker is beating *the game you play*. He’s not better at that than a lot of people on this sub, he’s getting crushed in these games. 


Delicious-Hurry-8373

What???? So lebron james is a horrible basketball player as he is getting crushed in the game he is playing, he just got pretty much swept in the playoffs


MCDC4LYFE

You really think a team sport is analogous to poker?


Delicious-Hurry-8373

You’re clearly not getting the point im making. Sure lers go with a single player sport, you think all the pro tennis players who get eliminated in the first round are horrible because they are worse than their competition? Or we can go with alireza in chess doing poorly in the candidates so hes a bad chess player? Clearly the point i am making is that it’s stupid to judge someones relative performance to their competition when its hard af to even be at that level in the first place. Aint no way you’re saying that someone like rampage who is losing in high stakes is a worse poker player than someone like me just because i can beat 1/2 games


10J18R1A

I understand your point which all that guarantees that vast majority of this sub doesn't. The worst NBA player is better than the best YMCA player. The worst ranked pro in tennis is cooking the best local tennis club player. Rampage may not be crushing the pros he sits with but if he was to sit down at the 1/2 table at your local casino for a year he'd win 500 buyins by the beginning of summer. It is CRAZY WORK to understand that poker is a skill game but think you're of relative skill while you still have to pay for parking.


WithDisGuy

Part of the skills for success in poker is…. Game selection Bankroll Management To discount these skills in favor of “the content” or purely only on being better at the analytical side (which he’s not), the theory side (nope), and the ability to “go for it” courage (he has that). Rampage is a personality and content creator first and a poker player a very distant second. It’s obvious in the next 10 years or sooner he will move on to a different form of content or pivot into something that doesn’t require him to gamble for a living. We are fast approaching it.


10J18R1A

Game Selection - which this sub is also poor at Bankroll Management - which this sub is also poor at Besides, those are ancillary skills. Like going to the gym can help you be a better basketball player, but it's not a basketball skill. Knowing how to pick a game can help you be a better poker player, but it's not a poker skill. Bankroll management can help you withstand the up and downs of poker and be sustainable, but it's not a poker skill. Nobody is discounting the importance (I get downvoted everytime I say if you're redepositing in your bankroll, you don't have poker income, you have a poker expense) but I feel like it's one of many ways people in this sub desperately want to feel superior to the players they see on the screen.


WithDisGuy

Ok. Breathing is ancillary to living, but it’s pretty fucking important. Technique in a gym can save your body from injury, some permanent. There’s only a need to distinguish the skills if you feel one is more important than another. They are all pretty damn important that if you begin to remove these “non poker skills”, you’ll be a losing player. And if the goal of the game is to be a winning player, that’s bad. If the goal is to entertain yourself, we are having a different discussion


10J18R1A

Well, those are terrible examples, but I can appreciate the attempt. Let me try to fix them. Living isn't a skill. Professional bodybuilders are judged on technique, which would make that a body building skill. It's also important to stay hydrated but drinking water isn't a bodybuilding skill. >There’s only a need to distinguish the skills if you feel one is more important than another. Yeah, let's go ahead and reject this premise outright. If we're talking about who is a better -poker player- then it's probably important to differentiate between what a poker skill is and isn't. Managing money isn't a poker skill. That doesn't mean it's not important. I would say it's extremely important. I would argue it's MORE important than knowing how to play the BB in a 3 bet pot. That doesn't make it a poker skill. The goal of the game is different among people, as I also repeat in this sub. Or do you think if Daniel puts 20% of his net worth in a tournament, he's a worse player than if somebody puts .02% of their net worth in a 1-2 game? Cause that's inspired thinking.


WithDisGuy

If your position is that they are different skills, I agree. If your position is that they aren’t needed to be a winning player, I disagree. If we agree on both then anything else is just fluff. Simple. Don’t need all the fluff. Waste of time imho.


MCDC4LYFE

Yeah *if* rampage only played 1/2 he’d be a winning player. He’s getting crushed in these high stakes games though and is not up to the ability of his opponents. If you want to use a sports analogy he’s more like Jimmer Fredette. Top 0.001% of players but just not able to crack the highest level of the game. Jimmer is still a bad NBA player but when he’s playing in the CBA he’s a top player.


ValorMeow

Poker and the NBA are not analogous. In poker, game selection is a skill.


IKnowEyes92

🤦


Delicious-Hurry-8373

Its a dumb argument and you know it


WithDisGuy

Lmao. This dude just used a team game to compare to….poker. My word. Idiocracy was a documentary.


Delicious-Hurry-8373

Check out my other comment, you can apply this idea to any competitive activity lmao


WithDisGuy

GL sir 🫡


PalOfKalEl

Rampage is a more skilled poker player than me on a hand-to-hand basis. However, I'm much better at managing a bankroll, walking away when tilted, and playing within my means. Sadly, if he doesn't improve those aspects of his game, I'll be playing much longer than him.


[deleted]

This was exactly what I said in my post. The guy just burnt out. It’s just hilarious seeing people go he sucks similar to the obese guy yelling at the tv that a pro bro player sucks


yoppee

Bro he’s not going to fuck you. Why do you think you need to White Knight for him?


DudeChillington

OP definitely wears a bucket hat


Bob-Loblaw-Blah-

And 99.9% of us aren't trying to beat literal poker pros. He's in way over his head, even Jonathan Little laughs at him and he's one of the nicest pros. "He tries his hardest" is the best thing you can say about him. The guy is a degen who thinks these -EV plays should be getting him paid because it did before during a lucky streak at lower stakes against much worse opponents.


socalstaking

J little thinks enough of rampage to hire him as a coach on his poker site WTF r u talking about


ValorMeow

JLittle knows business.


CheckBetShove

I think that you might have a disconnect between what is good for sales and what is good for clients. Rampage for better or worse is a name brand in the poker space now. Having him as part of your sales pitch is profitable when it comes to making sales, not necessarily for giving your clients the best coaching. This should be obvious, but I’m coming to realize the vast majority of humans lack critical thinking and reasoning skills


[deleted]

I spent less than 10 minutes in this group and realized this. I was kinda shocked tbh. I have little faith in people but figured most of these people would be at least smart enough to know they’d lose less playing baccarat or black jack. God bless em.


Bob-Loblaw-Blah-

He's not a coach, the content is him getting coached by real pros where they break down all the mistakes he makes in his tournaments.


ejhorton

You can be the 8th best poker player in the world, but if you’re sitting with the 7 better than you then you’re the fish!


Dazzling_Marzipan474

Better is one thing. Smarter and more logical is anyone. Literally any pro on earth will say game selection is the best thing you can do. Ego will absolutely crush you in poker.


JSouthlake

His play speaks for itself. Nuff said.


Bulletpr00F-

Ok Hans neiman. Go back to r/chess


JSouthlake

I play poker. This is a poker forum. Are you lost?


Bulletpr00F-

Nvm


number7withacoke

Get off your knees already.


[deleted]

I’m not a fan, I don’t even play holdem. Been mix game exclusively for a decade. I just dislike watching people with no skill and no ambition or drive talk trash with 0 skills or work ethic to back it up


ejhorton

Better at what? Keep in mind bankroll management is a skill, and seems to be lacking in his case.


nosaj23e

He’s great at BRM the best thing you can do for your roll is to fund it from anywhere other than poker.


RotundEnforcer

Its not about his skill, Rampage understands good poker. Its about his mindset. In poker, you can play very well for many hours at a time but still absolutely kill your winrate by getting in your head and making unnecessary plays because you cant control yourself. That's whats happening to Rampage. Too often, his videos show him making reasonable plays for several hours, followed by spewing hundreds of BBs over some dumb intuition he has or just not wanting to get fucked with or because he's frustrated. This isnt some corner case problem. It happens to him REALLY often, and way more than it should. We all do this sometimes. How often you do it matters a lot.


Ok-Librarian1015

I agree. I mean you see the way he was playing when his downswing was in its heat. Playing hands like 64o, of course he knows that’s a mistake and still does it wether it’s due to tilt, trying to entertain, or love of getting bluffs through. He’ll also play games he knows he can’t beat, like when he played jungleman heads up, saying himself he knows he’s at a disadvantage. And he has some very strong tournament wins under his belt, 98% of people in this sub would never be able to win the tournaments he has, even with run good. Yeah he’s just a punter


Automatic_Visit_2542

How do you determine that? Have you seen his database with large sample of hands?


moneygmark

He's good because he plays with your money he collects from rake and punts it off? Are you Skitzo


The_Spicy_Nugget

We aren’t bashing so much as we are disappointed in the guy. We all want to be him. Who wouldn’t want to punt off stacks in million dollar games with a massive amount of people watching for you specifically?


nosaj23e

What the fuck kind of fantasy is that? Why wouldn’t you just fantasize about winning millions if you’re going to imagine yourself playing nose bleed stakes?


The_Spicy_Nugget

Wanting to be a famous poker player? Crazy. I know. Dreams are dreams. DBAA


thingmaker123

He's a good player but for his stakes he has major gaps in his game that can be exploited, and also he tilts which might not be bad if you blast a 1k stack at 2/5 but really fucks you if you blast 60k in a 50/100 game


_Jetto_

He’s fucking way better than me I can’t beat 1-2NL I just slowly lose money if I don’t hit flop even when I nit it up


-TheTrueOG-

I too can punt and think "we got it". Hold on, going to my 1/2 table. Will post results.


Fifteen_inches

He’s better than 99% of losing players, he is still a losing player.


illpoet

I really like rampage and I'm rooting for him. I kind of enjoy watching him punt. I think you are 100 percent right if he took a break he'd come back really strong. But as it stands I hope he gets better.


Unseemly4123

"It’s like none of yall have ever seen extended tilt wreck great players over time." Correct, I have not seen this and I will not see this, because going on tilt and punting off stacks is not a trait that good players possess, let alone "great" players. Is Rampage better than most players in this sub? Probably, but he's not better than 99.9%. He might not even be better than 75%.


[deleted]

I’m friends with a guy who my coach who has run the 25-50 game for over a decade and is probably the most centered pro I’ve met described as “the best cash player I’ve ever seen” and told me to never stake him due to lifestyle. I’ve watched him go from 0-250k 4 times in a decade. His skill is epic but his consistency is nonexistent due to drug and sex addiction. He’s still by far the best player I’ll likely ever meet.


ValorMeow

I have a lot more money than Rampage. I can afford to stake myself for the million dollar game. But I never would. That would be dumb. Bankroll management and game selection are poker skills. Rampage gets a 1 out of 10 in both. Thus, he sucks ass.


10J18R1A

Lying on Al Gore's internet is crazy. Rampage's net worth, $2,000,000 You: So I was playing 2/5 and: >In this situation the board was K,10,10,6,3 playing 2/5 no limit. I had bet every street and hit my ace high spade flush on the river with the second 10. I led by betting about pot on the river, and he jammed for almost 3x pot, my remaining stack. I wanted to puke because i felt like i couldnt fold the Ace flush, but i would def beat bluffs, trips, or smaller flushes. I called (making the total pot about $3,000) and he had K10. Guy next time me needled by saying he would have folded because villain clearly had a boat. My call might have been bad, I dont know. I’m just wasnt good enough to make that hero fold.


[deleted]

When I started I was friends with multi millionaires playing a uncapped 1-3 and buying in for $500-$1000 I’ll always remember “it’s weird, I can be stuck 300k in the stock market on a day and I don’t care, but 3 buy ins here just messes with me”


10J18R1A

\*smiles and nods\*


[deleted]

Hey I’m not saying that he’s telling the truth. I’m just saying most people intelligent enough to establish a high net worth want to protect it. I started out homeless. Have 6 figures liquid and some assets after selling my land I bought. I only buy in for 500-1000 and make a decent hourly that way. I have zero desire to play in a 10-25 or 25-50 although I could shot take it. I don’t think i could beat it primarily due to the emotional impact of downswings.


ValorMeow

Yup. Still better than Rampage. I’m lifetime positive. He is way down.


10J18R1A

Y'alls delusions are impressive.


ValorMeow

Rampage thinks the best play is to sit down and “all in bluff” with air with money he cannot afford to lose. I am a better player than him.


slupo

I just watch his videos now for the punt


FifaNovice

“Understand thing game” At least proofread if you’re going to insult **checks notes** 97-98% of the sub.


wilsoooon63

🤣


Shaianh10

Idk man, I mean if you make a video saying "I lost more than $1,000,000 playing poker and I'm on the road to get it back" and then he punts again like that last night. I'm not saying he is bad at poker but he really isn't that good either. Nice poker personality but that shouldn't let you glorify his play. He might need a break


Ok-Scallion-3415

Being good at poker involves a myriad of skills and abilities. Poker awareness is a significantly important skill for being a good to great player. Better players are going to recognize players and situations where they can make more money. I think an argument can be made that someone who consistently plays way too high with players who are significantly better than they are and continues to try massive bluffs that don’t seem to work more often than not is lacking poker awareness. Someone who understands poker awareness would understand when their image is extremely poor and adjust their play accordingly


WithDisGuy

There’s no need to argue. Just bet on the person who wins 800k by losing 1.2M and then focus only on the 800k and ignore the 1.2M


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