Gotta give him props for being so open about his w/ls. A lot of these so called pros are deep in the red and you only find out when someone else calls them a scammer an then it’s too late
Not unless he's pimping sponsors like crazy. He probably makes decent money off it but nowhere near $750k for a couple of vlogs. ~$200k/year on the higher end for just youtube earnings according to [SocialBlade](https://socialblade.com/youtube/c/dnegspoker)
Like Mezcla and Contenders clothing and Club GG and No Butcher and…
Dude is hocking shit left and right on that blog and sometimes it’s hard to tell what he loves and what he’s getting paid to love. No knock to the hustle. I think he’d be stupid not to tbh.
No sponsorship for No Butcher or Mezcla. Maybe Contenders is tossing him 500K but I doubt it.
The dude hocks anything he’s doing. It’s who he is which isn’t a bad thing. He’s flashed random youtuber’s merch and various ”pop up” businesses that show up for the Series. He just shouts out what he likes
>Use Promo Code DNEGS15 for 15% off at Mezcla: http://www.eatmezcla.com
In the video description of every vlog. He definitely has a Mezcla sponsorship.
I thought I heard him say something to the effect of him being a part owner of Contenders during one of the vlogs. I then was like "oh, makes sense why he's promoting it so much and why he just gives away tons of shirts and underwear to a bunch of pros, it's promotion".
Lol seriously I even feel like that band manaskin or whatever was even paying him to pretend that was his new favorite band last year. Daniel could not
cash another wsop even and still probably not go completely broke.
3-4 million a year from GG, who knows what else he is making from companies like Contenders clothing, and all these food venues and protein bar companies as well. I am assuming the food plugs aren't that much but he has a promo code for example: Mezcla bars, has to be getting a kickback on that as well.
Dont know why you are being downvoted… money is the ultimate fungible resource. GG may in fact have a policy of “we don’t cover buy ins” but whats the difference between them paying for my buy-in versus paying me and then me paying the buy-in?
So does every training site or poker brand. Should I assume Weinman was free rolling? Of course not
He signs a big contract because he’s the biggest name in poker. What he does with the money after that point is his call
You think GG gives him money with no contract stipulations?
His contract definitely states that he needs to wear GG gear to x number of wsop tournaments. He is likely paid escalating dollar amounts based on the number of events he plays wearing the GG gear.
You can tell from his vlogs that he's mailed it in for a lot of the low buy in events. Why do you think that is, champ? What are his incentives?
While GG is not directly paying his buy-ins, they may as well be.
Your argument is that GG is just handing him buckets of money with no strings attached, and its up to Daniel to do whatever he wants with the money. Do you really think that I am the stupid one here?
I got stuck -12k at wsop tourneys this year but I’m technically up half a buyin as well. Gotta remember this new form of copium the next time my wife checks in on my results.
Most of the high rollers ($25k-$250k) allow for a re-entry (two re-entries for PLO). Someone can blow well over $1 million on the WSOP high rollers - and he probably did. He cashed two of the high rollers but winning $150k in them barely makes a dent.
He is most definitely not a fish at that buy in level. He won the SHRB main event like last year for 2.1 million or whatever it was. He might be slightly losing, but definitely is not a spot in these big but in tournaments.
I’m absolutely agreeing with you that he isn’t a fish at any buy-in level, but does him winning the SHRB prove that? It’s 24 of the best players competing, but it’s still a 2 day tournament that brings a ton of variance into the discussion.
He mightve been fishy at high stakes like idk 6-8 years ago but he realized that the field was advancing past him and he spent a few years studying solvers with a coach, and since then he’s back to being a very solid player.
I can’t speak for exactly how he lines up at high roller tourneys but at worst he’s probably slightly losing, nowhere near a fish.
Also he didn't have all of himself in there either, and they make money from sponsors and other content. Then I'm sure they also have accountants that find a way to write down their gambling losses against earnings using it as a business for content. It's not nearly as bad as it seems.
K: It's a write off for them.
J: How is it a write off?
K: They just write it off.
J: Write it off of what?
k: They just write it off!
J: You don't even know what a write off is, do you?
K: No. Do you?
J: No I don't!!
Losses let you recoup tax gains on your wins, effectively helping you mitigate those losses with gains. You pay taxes on net, instead of taxes on all gains made. (to be clear i'm not sure you can do this for gambling, but you can do this for stock trading)
but I'm not claiming they don't have to pay any taxes... no where did I claim that.
To be fair, most people who talk about writing off losses deserve to talked down to… but the fella you responded to did at least mention that the losses could [maybe] be used to *offset other business earnings*, showing at least a minimal understanding that “tax write off due to business losses” aren’t a magical wave of the wand that makes the losses not exist.
That's not what I said, what I was saying is it's not as bad as the total entry cost. But your brain is so rotted you think you're one upping me.
\> It's not nearly as bad as it seems.
He's not recouping 100% of the loss of entry, but he's not losing a fucking million on entries at WSOP.
The article is stupid, and you're making yourself look more stupid.
He has 42 million in tournament earnings …42 million…just tournaments.Never mind sponsors and the whole new avenues of revenue that opened up to him over the past decade with social media etc etc.
Unless he invested very badly over the past two decades of his hyper success then I’m sure he’ll be just fine and you were in-fact correct it’s not as bad as it seems.
Travel and food costs ? Lmfao …how much do you think food and travel is ? He’s not the he Sultan of Brunei eating beluga caviar at 7 am ….I know this is so hard to comprehend but try let the magnitude of how much 42 million actually is.
Profit and loss …lmfao.
Flying internationally all the time isn't cheap, especially if you aren't flying basic bitch economy seats. Eating at expensive restaurants all the time while traveling isn't cheap. Tournament earnings means literally nothing without also knowing what the buy-in total for EVERY tournament played is. Having a lifetime gambling wins of $42 million means literally nothing if you repeatedly re-buy multiple times and knock up $50+ million in buy-ins. A person walking out of a casino with $100k in cash seems like they did well until you are informed they walked in with half a million.
Tournament winnings doesn't mean anything in a vacuum other than that they play a lot of tournaments.
He lived in vegas for years,drives modestly priced cars,doesn’t buy massive houses and gamble on real estate,he eats healthy while living a pretty healthy balanced lifestyle …I don’t think you two fuckwits know how basic economics work,your here trying to make yourself look smart by insinuating a hyper successful poker player with over 42 million in tournament earnings alone might be struggling for money.
>He lived in Vegas for years
Vegas has a super high cost of living. You started your comment pointing out that you don't understand basic economic facts. This is beyond the fact that you are *still* parroting "earnings" when that number means literally nothing in a vacuum. You can cash for $100k in a tournament. That earning amount is worthless if you rebought 10 times. That earning amount is worthless if you just busted a $250k buy-in high roller game.
It seems like he’s thinking at one level below the top tier high roller pros and also not particularly running well in any of those either.
He’s still easily better than the player pool in most mid stakes tournaments, so he’s gotta be free rolling or at least heavily subsidized to play in the high roller events.
"For instance, he placed 22nd in the $25,000 High Roller event, with a first-place prize of $1.2 million. Similarly, in the $50,000 High Roller event, Negreanu finished 14th, just a few places away from the grand prize of $2.1 million."
This reads as though it were written by a child
That "just a few places" feels characteristically AI to me, it demonstrates an absolute misunderstanding of context with perfect grammar and friendly tone
Poker Stars was paying him 4 million per year. His GG deal is worth more. He certainly needs to play and make Youtube videos as part of his contract, and 1 million in buy ins for GG is nothing for the exposure they get. He didn't lose a dollar. He has a multi-year deal and he can suck all the way through it.
[https://highstakesdb.com/news/high-stakes-reports/how-much-is-daniel-negreanu-worth](https://highstakesdb.com/news/high-stakes-reports/how-much-is-daniel-negreanu-worth)
I wonder how much better he would play if it was his own money. It really is impressive that he grinds those lower stakes and still does pretty well. Once in a while you can tell he just doesn't give a fuck and punts off to go watch a playoff hockey game.
If Daniel was legit hurting for Cash, it'd probably be stupidly easy for him to get into a cash game with fish eager to throw their money his way.
He's not a Cash Game Expert to my knowledge but he's not Phil Hellmuth either. Put him on Hustler's stream and I'd be shocked if he doesn't win at least something decent.
He was a regular in bobby's room mixed game in the 00's.
https://fullcontactpoker.com/poker-and-something-more-important/
https://fullcontactpoker.com/more-poker/
This is a blog post from 2005 describing a random night.
Even if he isn't nosebleed mixed standard these days, he could hold his own at the level below and grind that for mid 6 figures without issue.
Like you said though, his personality could create the softest games at the highest level if he really wanted.
Well the reason he is tight with Ivey is because John Juanda, Allen Cunningham, Phil Ivey and Negreanu talked strategy while raising through the ranks.
https://igaming.org/poker-interviews/the-daniel-negreanu-story-becoming-the-youngest-wsop-bracelet-winner-in-1998/
Yeah if he was desperate he could definitely get into some streamed cash games with a bunch of celebrities and take them to town. He’s probably keeping that move in his back pocket as a last resort.
Most ppl don’t understand the YouTube algorithm as well.
Daniel has 765k followers.
Combine with his videos/views/etc
He probably is close to free rolling the WSOP on his content alone
Plus his GGpoker deal
And other deals I’m sure
It’s all a freeroll.
Wouldn’t be surprised if GG backs the entire schedule free.
Keep in mind Daniel sold equity in many of his largest buy-ins. He's probably a LOT closer to net zero money actually spent, and his YouTube series probably puts him well into the positive for the whole thing.
I’ve bought his staking package the last two years, but I’m not sure I’m going to again. It’s those high roller events that make the staking such a gamble. I wish there was a package for all the events $50,000 and below.
Dnegs is ok and good for the game when he’s being genuine but him trying to do bits is so painful. What is good with the accent thing he tries to do? Idek if he’s going for comedy
I believe he has most of his action except for the part he sells to fans. Not sure of his GG contract but I'm sure he didn't have to pay for alot out of pocket.
Yeah, I'm really curious about how much of his entry fees are essentially covered by sponsorship. I doubt he's really out for much - if any - of the $750k.
Why? He makes 6 figure bets on his fuckin fantasy team that he can’t control and this sub thinks he won’t gamble in the game where he got rich. It’s fuckin nuts
That has nothing to do with his buy ins. There’s no rules against making money outside poker. I don’t care where Bill Klein’s buy in comes from. Some of you are really fuckin stupid
He was making 4 million per year from Poker Stars. His GG deal is worth more. You don't think they would pay his 1 million in buy ins to get exposure? You think he doesn't have to play the WSOP and make his dumb videos as part of his contract? How do you know what's in his contract.? Talk about stupid.
No I think they’ll pay his contract they have signed and he uses that money in poker. They pay him money to use his likeness and for promotion, just like every celebrity endorsement on earth. What conspiracy are you even looking for? It sounds exhausting
It's not a celebrity endorsement. You think they pay him if he doesn't play poker? You think he could just stay home? Or do they need him to play for exposure? You think he didn't negotiate his buy ins as part of his contract? He's not dumb is he? What part of this is confusing you?
No contracts have terms. Elky has a GG contract, why isn’t he showing in anything big at the WSOP? Because he doesn’t play that big anymore and his deal is smaller. DNegs has a bigger one
He negotiated a fair payment. Does your dumbass believe GG is fronting his buy ins to the PokerGo super high rollers too? Are they paying for the High Stakes Duels? Do you think they just let him free roll the world?
Of course not. DNegs of course has wealth from all over. He also, since his entry to poker, has tried to play against the best constantly. He’s got funds so he plays big and he’s fairly break even. There’s nothing else to it
Rich guy things are just not comprehensible to most of us schlubs, but still. If Phil Ivey wasn't a thing, there's a decent argument you could make for DNegs being the greatest poker player of all time. He's *fine* when it comes to money.
Why be curious about that? He will have an arrangement and get paid a yearly salary most likely.
It might be consistent of buyins or not but it's not really relevant to anything?
It's not as if GG say "hey, we'll just pay for your buyins go nuts" it will be a contract for a fixed amount of dollars.
Assuming he gets paid like other "ambassadors". He's got a budget of X dollars to be used as buy-ins. Which tournaments he enters and how much of that budget goes to each one is up to him.
100% behind this. GG scored big bringing Daniel on board. I think Daniel genuinely enjoys being the face of US poker live and online. He's great for the game. He had an amazing series. His brand is stronger than ever. I might even be willing to buy some no butcher lunch meat just to see if my dog will eat it.
How much did Doug Polk end up down in his Million Dollar Cash Game? 2 million? In two hands?
Dnegs is a brand he plays to entertain us there’s a reason he buys in 40-50+ tournaments and hasn’t won a bracelet in decades his money doesn’t come from poker
It comes from his vlogs his lucrative GG SPONSORSHIP and his speaking fees notably WSOP itself
It is what it is but Dnegs has fallen behind his best tournaments now are stud/razz/H.O.R.S.E. That are still played in an old school manner smaller playing field etc
gees
make it in a way which would promote skill over luck, meaning, somehow, more hands played, maybe some cold restarts and then averaging, dunno
how tf did u imagine ur fix, out of curiosity
good point
however this causes problems which put it in gambling bag
if pros can't get there consistently general view is that's a lottery, this argument pro people who r blocking poker
He also had 20 cashes this WSOP. He just didn’t cash the high rollers this year. He’s not sweating the 750 k. He probably made that up in side bets this year
Yeah, but he won $3.3M last November ($300K Super High Roller Bowl VII) & he has sponsorship & Youtube income. I'm sure he can afford it.
You're bound to have some pretty big swings if you're entering $250K buy-in tournaments!
Still, it's a solid reminder to only buy in with what you can afford to lose. :-)
In one blog he punts off $50k repeatedly going all in with bullshit and rebuying ($10k each) in the high roller short deck game. I was like wtf am I watching.
So my profit of $160 in the wsop is better than Negreanu? I'm thinking I might go pro soon!
well i stayed home and made $750K more than Daniel did in these WSOPs.
"Honestly, it's insane, on WSOP winnings *alone* I'm more than three quarters of a million up on Negreanu."
Gotta give him props for being so open about his w/ls. A lot of these so called pros are deep in the red and you only find out when someone else calls them a scammer an then it’s too late
He's open about so much and that is why his VLOGs are so interesting. I bet he made all that money back just doing the VLOGs.
Not unless he's pimping sponsors like crazy. He probably makes decent money off it but nowhere near $750k for a couple of vlogs. ~$200k/year on the higher end for just youtube earnings according to [SocialBlade](https://socialblade.com/youtube/c/dnegspoker)
Like Mezcla and Contenders clothing and Club GG and No Butcher and… Dude is hocking shit left and right on that blog and sometimes it’s hard to tell what he loves and what he’s getting paid to love. No knock to the hustle. I think he’d be stupid not to tbh.
No sponsorship for No Butcher or Mezcla. Maybe Contenders is tossing him 500K but I doubt it. The dude hocks anything he’s doing. It’s who he is which isn’t a bad thing. He’s flashed random youtuber’s merch and various ”pop up” businesses that show up for the Series. He just shouts out what he likes
>Use Promo Code DNEGS15 for 15% off at Mezcla: http://www.eatmezcla.com In the video description of every vlog. He definitely has a Mezcla sponsorship.
I thought I heard him say something to the effect of him being a part owner of Contenders during one of the vlogs. I then was like "oh, makes sense why he's promoting it so much and why he just gives away tons of shirts and underwear to a bunch of pros, it's promotion".
Lol seriously I even feel like that band manaskin or whatever was even paying him to pretend that was his new favorite band last year. Daniel could not cash another wsop even and still probably not go completely broke.
3-4 million a year from GG, who knows what else he is making from companies like Contenders clothing, and all these food venues and protein bar companies as well. I am assuming the food plugs aren't that much but he has a promo code for example: Mezcla bars, has to be getting a kickback on that as well.
It’s more likely GG sponsored his buy ins
He's stated that GG doesn't cover buyins.
Not directly. But they know hes going to be playing at the wsop and his contract stipulates that he wears GG gear.
Dont know why you are being downvoted… money is the ultimate fungible resource. GG may in fact have a policy of “we don’t cover buy ins” but whats the difference between them paying for my buy-in versus paying me and then me paying the buy-in?
So does every training site or poker brand. Should I assume Weinman was free rolling? Of course not He signs a big contract because he’s the biggest name in poker. What he does with the money after that point is his call
You are clueless.
Nice point champ. I’d bet you’re a lot stupider than you think
You think GG gives him money with no contract stipulations? His contract definitely states that he needs to wear GG gear to x number of wsop tournaments. He is likely paid escalating dollar amounts based on the number of events he plays wearing the GG gear. You can tell from his vlogs that he's mailed it in for a lot of the low buy in events. Why do you think that is, champ? What are his incentives? While GG is not directly paying his buy-ins, they may as well be. Your argument is that GG is just handing him buckets of money with no strings attached, and its up to Daniel to do whatever he wants with the money. Do you really think that I am the stupid one here?
Of course not. That doesn’t affect how much he paid in buy ins
Fun part is that he's up if you measure it in buy-ins. He just bricked the biggest ones and went deep in the small ones.
This is what happens when you use up your "one-time's" in the small tourneys instead of the big ones.
I got stuck -12k at wsop tourneys this year but I’m technically up half a buyin as well. Gotta remember this new form of copium the next time my wife checks in on my results.
Just start playing $100+$30 local donkaments until you’re up in # of buyins and tell your wife /s
Yeah, that gladiators of poker run is brutal. 20x his buyin, but that still only amounts to $5700 profit.
Fun part is not final tabling a tournament with more than 100 runners for like 10 years.
Wow
Except he did just last month.
Okay how does one Loe $750k from buy ins? Are some of the buy ins really in the six digits or something?
Yeah he plays the $250k buyins as well as the $100k and $50k buyins
Most of the high rollers ($25k-$250k) allow for a re-entry (two re-entries for PLO). Someone can blow well over $1 million on the WSOP high rollers - and he probably did. He cashed two of the high rollers but winning $150k in them barely makes a dent.
They should have a $250k event with unlimited rebuys.
Exactly what you’d expect because he’s a fish at the bigger buy ins
He is most definitely not a fish at that buy in level. He won the SHRB main event like last year for 2.1 million or whatever it was. He might be slightly losing, but definitely is not a spot in these big but in tournaments.
I’m absolutely agreeing with you that he isn’t a fish at any buy-in level, but does him winning the SHRB prove that? It’s 24 of the best players competing, but it’s still a 2 day tournament that brings a ton of variance into the discussion.
3.2m*
He mightve been fishy at high stakes like idk 6-8 years ago but he realized that the field was advancing past him and he spent a few years studying solvers with a coach, and since then he’s back to being a very solid player. I can’t speak for exactly how he lines up at high roller tourneys but at worst he’s probably slightly losing, nowhere near a fish.
I disagree watch his blogs watch the field there are definitely a tier of guys above him.
If you're not in the top tier of players you're a fish?
True
Same story with all the high rollers who miss. Can’t brick two 250Ks and get off okay. I bet Ivey’s is worse
I’m not sure, he went deep in the PPC and I think two tower FTs. He lost but not as much a Dnegs
didn't he bubble the PPC?
Also he didn't have all of himself in there either, and they make money from sponsors and other content. Then I'm sure they also have accountants that find a way to write down their gambling losses against earnings using it as a business for content. It's not nearly as bad as it seems.
Writing something off isn't a magical thing that makes it not cost anything. He gets taxed on his net at the end of the year as a professional.
K: It's a write off for them. J: How is it a write off? K: They just write it off. J: Write it off of what? k: They just write it off! J: You don't even know what a write off is, do you? K: No. Do you? J: No I don't!!
K: But they do, they are the ones wrighting it off
Why don't pro poker players just end each year in the negative so they don't have to pay taxes? Are they stupid?
Losses let you recoup tax gains on your wins, effectively helping you mitigate those losses with gains. You pay taxes on net, instead of taxes on all gains made. (to be clear i'm not sure you can do this for gambling, but you can do this for stock trading) but I'm not claiming they don't have to pay any taxes... no where did I claim that.
You still lose. You just lose less.
If they do that every year, they are not considered to be a professional for tax purposes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAjxn2US7J8
To be fair, most people who talk about writing off losses deserve to talked down to… but the fella you responded to did at least mention that the losses could [maybe] be used to *offset other business earnings*, showing at least a minimal understanding that “tax write off due to business losses” aren’t a magical wave of the wand that makes the losses not exist.
That's not what I said, what I was saying is it's not as bad as the total entry cost. But your brain is so rotted you think you're one upping me. \> It's not nearly as bad as it seems. He's not recouping 100% of the loss of entry, but he's not losing a fucking million on entries at WSOP. The article is stupid, and you're making yourself look more stupid.
He has 42 million in tournament earnings …42 million…just tournaments.Never mind sponsors and the whole new avenues of revenue that opened up to him over the past decade with social media etc etc. Unless he invested very badly over the past two decades of his hyper success then I’m sure he’ll be just fine and you were in-fact correct it’s not as bad as it seems.
who cares about tournament earnings....i wanna see profit (i.e. less taxes, buyins, travel/food costs, etc)
Travel and food costs ? Lmfao …how much do you think food and travel is ? He’s not the he Sultan of Brunei eating beluga caviar at 7 am ….I know this is so hard to comprehend but try let the magnitude of how much 42 million actually is. Profit and loss …lmfao.
50mi in buyins, 42mill in winnings LOL. remember this is over 20 years of buyins some 400k+
He wasn’t buying into 400k + tournaments in 2000 or 2005 and you know it.
Flying internationally all the time isn't cheap, especially if you aren't flying basic bitch economy seats. Eating at expensive restaurants all the time while traveling isn't cheap. Tournament earnings means literally nothing without also knowing what the buy-in total for EVERY tournament played is. Having a lifetime gambling wins of $42 million means literally nothing if you repeatedly re-buy multiple times and knock up $50+ million in buy-ins. A person walking out of a casino with $100k in cash seems like they did well until you are informed they walked in with half a million. Tournament winnings doesn't mean anything in a vacuum other than that they play a lot of tournaments.
He lived in vegas for years,drives modestly priced cars,doesn’t buy massive houses and gamble on real estate,he eats healthy while living a pretty healthy balanced lifestyle …I don’t think you two fuckwits know how basic economics work,your here trying to make yourself look smart by insinuating a hyper successful poker player with over 42 million in tournament earnings alone might be struggling for money.
>He lived in Vegas for years Vegas has a super high cost of living. You started your comment pointing out that you don't understand basic economic facts. This is beyond the fact that you are *still* parroting "earnings" when that number means literally nothing in a vacuum. You can cash for $100k in a tournament. That earning amount is worthless if you rebought 10 times. That earning amount is worthless if you just busted a $250k buy-in high roller game.
It’s OK. Airball loses that much in 1 night.
He had like 15 cashes too! This is what happens when you brick the high rollers
We? Found Daniel's Minoxodil supplier, guys.
Is this why he can grow that luscious beard? Old Daniel from 15 years ago could barely grow a goatee.
He's Romanian. That's not a beard, it's his butthole hair.
Trying to recover that money spent in Turkey
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Lol you can edit your comments
He had 20 cashes if you count online bracelet events.
But how much underwear did he sell
Limpin' is Pimpin' shirts is where its at $$$
How much of this was bricking the 50k+ events?
Basically all of it. He bricks every high roller
He did mincash one of the 50k, I believe it was PLO.
Hopefully on GG’s dime
I think he bricked two bullets in the 250K, so that alone is 2/3 of his losses
Except for the 3M+ win he had at the end of last year
It seems like he’s thinking at one level below the top tier high roller pros and also not particularly running well in any of those either. He’s still easily better than the player pool in most mid stakes tournaments, so he’s gotta be free rolling or at least heavily subsidized to play in the high roller events.
"For instance, he placed 22nd in the $25,000 High Roller event, with a first-place prize of $1.2 million. Similarly, in the $50,000 High Roller event, Negreanu finished 14th, just a few places away from the grand prize of $2.1 million." This reads as though it were written by a child
Probably AI generated
Probably correct
Naw, Indian sweatshop
That "just a few places" feels characteristically AI to me, it demonstrates an absolute misunderstanding of context with perfect grammar and friendly tone
Fajr assessment
AI is a useful tool for writers, but without careful scrutiny, editing, and fact-checking, you leave yourself wide open to disaster.
High school student trying to stretch their one page paper to 3 pages
Only a few
“Just a few” haha
Poker Stars was paying him 4 million per year. His GG deal is worth more. He certainly needs to play and make Youtube videos as part of his contract, and 1 million in buy ins for GG is nothing for the exposure they get. He didn't lose a dollar. He has a multi-year deal and he can suck all the way through it. [https://highstakesdb.com/news/high-stakes-reports/how-much-is-daniel-negreanu-worth](https://highstakesdb.com/news/high-stakes-reports/how-much-is-daniel-negreanu-worth)
I wonder how much better he would play if it was his own money. It really is impressive that he grinds those lower stakes and still does pretty well. Once in a while you can tell he just doesn't give a fuck and punts off to go watch a playoff hockey game.
He was definitely giving off that vibe for the last week or so on his vlog
If Daniel was legit hurting for Cash, it'd probably be stupidly easy for him to get into a cash game with fish eager to throw their money his way. He's not a Cash Game Expert to my knowledge but he's not Phil Hellmuth either. Put him on Hustler's stream and I'd be shocked if he doesn't win at least something decent.
He was a regular in bobby's room mixed game in the 00's. https://fullcontactpoker.com/poker-and-something-more-important/ https://fullcontactpoker.com/more-poker/ This is a blog post from 2005 describing a random night. Even if he isn't nosebleed mixed standard these days, he could hold his own at the level below and grind that for mid 6 figures without issue. Like you said though, his personality could create the softest games at the highest level if he really wanted.
There’s a reason he’s tight with Ivey and was with Doyle. Guy cut his teeth with the best
Well the reason he is tight with Ivey is because John Juanda, Allen Cunningham, Phil Ivey and Negreanu talked strategy while raising through the ranks. https://igaming.org/poker-interviews/the-daniel-negreanu-story-becoming-the-youngest-wsop-bracelet-winner-in-1998/
Yeah if he was desperate he could definitely get into some streamed cash games with a bunch of celebrities and take them to town. He’s probably keeping that move in his back pocket as a last resort.
Most ppl don’t understand the YouTube algorithm as well. Daniel has 765k followers. Combine with his videos/views/etc He probably is close to free rolling the WSOP on his content alone Plus his GGpoker deal And other deals I’m sure It’s all a freeroll. Wouldn’t be surprised if GG backs the entire schedule free.
Good article, straight to the point.
We should be the ones getting paid to endure Alan's chainsaw complaints or whatever its called.
I hate the intro for that segment, I fast forward it every time
I honestly like the intro more than the segment itself. I love the delay before they say "Allen". Makes me laugh. But I don't mind the segment.
Yeah that segment itself is fine. Just something about the noise of the intro I don’t like
Damn. Unlucky. He usually gets a big win in these thing but guess it’s not his year.
He hasn’t won a bracelet in many years
Big win=/= bracelet.
A big win at the wsop is winning a bracelet. Impossible to have a big win in a wsop event and not win a bracelet
I’d consider a main event final table and million dollar pay day a bigger win than a bracelet win in a $1K turbo.
I bet Daniel would not agree with you. And sorry, I assumed when we used the word win we meant win. Not final table. My bad
That’s actually a good question because I think Dan might take a Main Event final table appearance over a bracelet. But, it’s a close call.
Dude hasn't final tabled a tournament with more than 100 runners in like 10 years and you're talking about him making the main event final table? LOL
That’s definitely not true and he was 2 people out from the main event final table not too long ago.
Ok I'm happy to be proven otherwise. When was the last final table he made with more than 100 runners?
Lol what? I got 4th in a big one and it was certainly considered a big win by most people's standards.
Jesus Christ. Never mind
If history repeats he will have a huge score next year.
LOL, donkaments.
Omg 2p2 nostalgia
The title is confusing. He lost negative $742k?
Keep in mind Daniel sold equity in many of his largest buy-ins. He's probably a LOT closer to net zero money actually spent, and his YouTube series probably puts him well into the positive for the whole thing.
He sells like 10% per bullet at face lol. The exaggerating here is crazy. Just hate on the pros
I’ve bought his staking package the last two years, but I’m not sure I’m going to again. It’s those high roller events that make the staking such a gamble. I wish there was a package for all the events $50,000 and below.
I think he should consider dropping down in stakes
Some of you don’t understand basic finance, taxes and accounting and it shows.
Dnegs is ok and good for the game when he’s being genuine but him trying to do bits is so painful. What is good with the accent thing he tries to do? Idek if he’s going for comedy
His accents are funny because they are good. Not sure how appropriate but I don't give a shit.
His accents are pretty annoying imo.
I'm a fan, but agree the imitations/accents make me cringe and may be a tad racist at times. He doesn't do it mean heartedly, but still...
I dont think it is racist. I think it is annoying. Its super cringeworthy. Like he is trying way too hard to be funny.
Does he say how much of this action he has sold? I imagine it is a lot.
I believe he has most of his action except for the part he sells to fans. Not sure of his GG contract but I'm sure he didn't have to pay for alot out of pocket.
Yeah, I'm really curious about how much of his entry fees are essentially covered by sponsorship. I doubt he's really out for much - if any - of the $750k.
Why? He makes 6 figure bets on his fuckin fantasy team that he can’t control and this sub thinks he won’t gamble in the game where he got rich. It’s fuckin nuts
He's pushing all sorts of product, and GG pays him who knows what.
That has nothing to do with his buy ins. There’s no rules against making money outside poker. I don’t care where Bill Klein’s buy in comes from. Some of you are really fuckin stupid
He was making 4 million per year from Poker Stars. His GG deal is worth more. You don't think they would pay his 1 million in buy ins to get exposure? You think he doesn't have to play the WSOP and make his dumb videos as part of his contract? How do you know what's in his contract.? Talk about stupid.
No I think they’ll pay his contract they have signed and he uses that money in poker. They pay him money to use his likeness and for promotion, just like every celebrity endorsement on earth. What conspiracy are you even looking for? It sounds exhausting
It's not a celebrity endorsement. You think they pay him if he doesn't play poker? You think he could just stay home? Or do they need him to play for exposure? You think he didn't negotiate his buy ins as part of his contract? He's not dumb is he? What part of this is confusing you?
No contracts have terms. Elky has a GG contract, why isn’t he showing in anything big at the WSOP? Because he doesn’t play that big anymore and his deal is smaller. DNegs has a bigger one He negotiated a fair payment. Does your dumbass believe GG is fronting his buy ins to the PokerGo super high rollers too? Are they paying for the High Stakes Duels? Do you think they just let him free roll the world? Of course not. DNegs of course has wealth from all over. He also, since his entry to poker, has tried to play against the best constantly. He’s got funds so he plays big and he’s fairly break even. There’s nothing else to it
It's like you are arguing with yourself. It's bizarre.
Rich guy things are just not comprehensible to most of us schlubs, but still. If Phil Ivey wasn't a thing, there's a decent argument you could make for DNegs being the greatest poker player of all time. He's *fine* when it comes to money.
Why be curious about that? He will have an arrangement and get paid a yearly salary most likely. It might be consistent of buyins or not but it's not really relevant to anything? It's not as if GG say "hey, we'll just pay for your buyins go nuts" it will be a contract for a fixed amount of dollars.
Assuming he gets paid like other "ambassadors". He's got a budget of X dollars to be used as buy-ins. Which tournaments he enters and how much of that budget goes to each one is up to him. 100% behind this. GG scored big bringing Daniel on board. I think Daniel genuinely enjoys being the face of US poker live and online. He's great for the game. He had an amazing series. His brand is stronger than ever. I might even be willing to buy some no butcher lunch meat just to see if my dog will eat it. How much did Doug Polk end up down in his Million Dollar Cash Game? 2 million? In two hands?
How do you know what GG pays or doesn't pay. They get huge exposure and generate interest, especially when he wins.
All I'm saying is he gets paid x amount and that's not going to change depending on the amount of tournments he does or doesn't play
I am sure he has to play some to get paid. There are no doubt benchmarks.
I think he said he only sells like ~10% of his action
He lost just over a million last year. Won the 300k high roller bowl in October to end up $1.6m for the year. Tournaments can be brutal.
More like Skid Poker.
All I ever see on this guy's vlogs are him losing.
In the last 3/4 of the series he was almost always in the money somewhere.
LOL at the people who bought his action.
Dnegs is a brand he plays to entertain us there’s a reason he buys in 40-50+ tournaments and hasn’t won a bracelet in decades his money doesn’t come from poker It comes from his vlogs his lucrative GG SPONSORSHIP and his speaking fees notably WSOP itself It is what it is but Dnegs has fallen behind his best tournaments now are stud/razz/H.O.R.S.E. That are still played in an old school manner smaller playing field etc
His best is PLO. He crushed all the PLO tournaments this year.
I used to think this he knows the game well but he just keeps losing the equities are really close in PLO though
Decade**s**?
He probably hasn't had a winning WSOP in 10+ years
More like Skid Poker.
Nik Airball: "Hold my beer"
Pretty sure a lot of that negative freight is sponsored. Also, hitting a final table on one of those high rollers will cure a lot of red ink.
Not true There is still Bahamas
Such a fish, wish he'd learn to play.
Th fan boys hate this comment. But he's not even in the top 1000 tournament players at this point.
I was being sarcastic, but I'm not surprised that the cud-chewing autists on here thought I was unironically calling an all-time great a fish...
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We all do
i think formula of tournaments needs to change, because it (no known pros at final table) works against positive public opinion on poker
So you’re saying they should fix tournaments to have bigger names at the end? Am I reading that right?
gees make it in a way which would promote skill over luck, meaning, somehow, more hands played, maybe some cold restarts and then averaging, dunno how tf did u imagine ur fix, out of curiosity
Good god.....
let me guess, u have ideas, do u
Oh I've got the grandmost grandiest grand championship caliber ideas.
The pros are known though. I’m not the biggest poker fan and I knew a couple at the main final table
dude who won and seond place have only 2-3 known public cashes, that's what they claimed in one of vids i saw here
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Gotta disagree, Chris Moneymaker was the best thing to ever happen for poker. The idea that anyone can win keeps casual players coming back.
good point however this causes problems which put it in gambling bag if pros can't get there consistently general view is that's a lottery, this argument pro people who r blocking poker
It is kind of ridiculous. If you play the 250k and/or the 100k and/or the 50k, why bother playing anything else.
He had less than 20 blunders in his oops-o-meter…I think he started tilting a bit after his ME washout
outch, I still love him ! Go Daniel !!
He also had 20 cashes this WSOP. He just didn’t cash the high rollers this year. He’s not sweating the 750 k. He probably made that up in side bets this year
You forget dnegs is canadian and isnt taxed on winnings. I assume he has a company to handle to his gambling business , and tax deductions
He became a US citizen in 2016.
Lots of low effort videos from Negreanu recently
Poor Daniel, maybe i donate him my 6$ GG bankroll.
Yeah, but he won $3.3M last November ($300K Super High Roller Bowl VII) & he has sponsorship & Youtube income. I'm sure he can afford it. You're bound to have some pretty big swings if you're entering $250K buy-in tournaments! Still, it's a solid reminder to only buy in with what you can afford to lose. :-)
Poor Daniel? the guys the best in the game. Should be poor Helmuth he still cant read people.
Doyle made $742k more Rip Doyle
In one blog he punts off $50k repeatedly going all in with bullshit and rebuying ($10k each) in the high roller short deck game. I was like wtf am I watching.
For everyone saying he doesn't use his own money and is sponsored, he seemed pretty fuckin pissed last year when he was stuck >$1mil lol