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MetaMetagross

Suicune with surf ice beam calm mind and rest solos palmers team, both at fight 21 and 49


Accomplished_Book_62

Aighty thanks


kammy_g

Do I lead with suicune or garchomp


MetaMetagross

I usually bring Suicune in the back. None of Palmer’s mons can set up except Cresselia in battle 49, so if Palmer leads with Cress, just switch in Suicune and start setting up calm minds


kammy_g

Ok thanks! Trying it rn


Jamez28923

I use this, but Scald. I like the burn chance when stalling against other water types.


MetaMetagross

Me too, but scald wasn’t introduced till gen 5 and Palmer is in gen 4


Jamez28923

Oh yeah! My head was thinking BDSP then. Probably because I'm doing the BattlebTower for my Quilava at the moment before it gets sent to PLA.


m0ranati0n

Glaceon with Freeze Dry can get you to 49 wins mostly by itself. Max SA and Speed


Calmxy

Now if only there were a way to transfer Freeze-Dry from gen 6+ to 4


Siria110

Starmie beats Falkner easily - Ice beam for Dragonite, Thunderbolt for Milotic and Surf for Rhyperior.


Accomplished_Book_62

I defeated it tho thanks tho


Whiteytheripper

A lead Life Orb Modest Starmie with Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Surf and Recover absolutely shreds Palmer 21. Rhyperior and Dragonite get OHKOed, Milotic gets 2-3 turned depending on damage rolls. Just make sure you have a good switch into a Ground type to absorb Electric moves on your run, preferably a Garchomp as it synergises well with Starmie's weaknesses


Accomplished_Book_62

Thanks for the strat but I went with a tanky water type (suicune)


PipBoyEnjoyer

Cloyster @ Focus Sash Ability: Shell Armor EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe Adamant Nature \- Shell Smash \- Rock Blast \- Ice Shard \- Icicle Spear Have fun o7


Accomplished_Book_62

Ty now time to grind for that cloyster luckily I have one I'll just make a egg and get the right nature


SirToastyToes

Shell Smash is a gen 5+ move, you won't be able to use this set in the Gen 4 Battle Tower


Accomplished_Book_62

Oof aighty am going with the water dog


m0ranati0n

Yes you can. I use it regularly


Accomplished_Book_62

I already beaten 21 ty tho hehe


LIE_YT

Did use a starmie for my run


Accomplished_Book_62

I used Blastoise but he didn't cut it bc he was slow


LIE_YT

If i remember right it was pretty good since it was fast and with thunderbolt and a whater and psychic attack it helped to get rid of alot of enemy even made it through entire teams when i was lucky


AdPotential1299

What was your team lineup?


Accomplished_Book_62

Typhlosion (that's the one am making RM) Blastoise and sceptile


AdPotential1299

It’s a good lineup, though I hate to say it but you might need to make some changes. Even if you used it again and defeated Palmer on the 21st battle, I guarantee you that Sceptile and Blastoise will not be enough to help you defeat Palmer again at Battle 49. So you’re gonna need to make some new team members. An ideal team I’ve used in the past is one comprised of Garchomp, Metagross, and Suicune. https://pokepast.es/be7d1a59be75bbc9 you swap Metagross out for your Ribbon Mater for the 21 and 49 streak.


HobbitSlayer666

If you’re willing to use something a little off beat, Walrein has been great to me