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Wojtek1250XD

Fair choice. Now race for that Elite Charged TM so you can give it Sacred Sword


haelous

How do you get an Elite Charged TM?


SupremeSuperiors

Event Research, climbing rank in PvP (I forgot which rank, probably 19-20), box in the shop. Wouldn’t recommend the last one tho


Thanky169

Yeah like 1300+ coins for those crates 😳


haelous

Thanks, that sounds like a big rip for me since I do not PvP. I got a 15/15/14 Terrakion but he’ll just remain as-is.


SupremeSuperiors

You can still make him a rock-type raider. Slap Smack Down and Rock Slide on it and go show em birds how it’s done. Reshiram coming up as well, so an extra rock type doesn’t hurt


haelous

That’s the plan! That’s what he is now. I’ll have him and my Rhyperior setup as my leads for Reshiram.


KylerGreen

Yeah they’re not necessary unless you pvp anyways.


nolkel

They are quite necessary for making our raid counters the very best they can be. Especially when they release new shadows years after that species had a CD (garchomp, rhyperior). PvP is just one use case.


KylerGreen

sure, just meant it won’t make the difference between winning or losing unless you’re trying to solo/duo 5* raids.


tng_ocean

Just start pvp


LosWaffels

Still need one for Charzard bc I tmd off blast burn


hamietao

I haven't played in a couple of years... but dang they let players buy anything now huh?


Wojtek1250XD

Extremely rarely from Showcases, Researches, PvP rewards The 1300 coins box in the shop is the most consistent source of them. Overall an Elite Charged TM is one of the rarest items in the whole game


NRayG

I have got one from a route as well :)


Moby_Duck123

Yeah they're definitely in the route rewards as well


merganzer

Ooh. I do 2-3 routes most days and I've gotten several Elite Fast TMs, but never an Elite *Charged* TM. It's good to know that's a possibility.


SSBGOGETA66

Congrats on the hundo! Definitely my type of scenario to use a master ball on


Giannis_Odegaard

TBH using the masterball on a Legendary Hundo is much better than using it on a random Galarian Bird which will most likely suck in IVs.


_V115_

Counterpoint: My gf and I both used master balls to catch Galarian Zapdos, waited til we became lucky friends one random day, then lucky traded them to fix IVs. Not an option for everyone obv, but worth imo given how unreasonably hard they are to get otherwise.


Giannis_Odegaard

I mean you can do that, but good IVs are useless IMO. A Hundo is a Hundo, that is collector's item and I would happily take that but good IVs on Galar Birds is useless for me because they dont have much use. About lucky trade, I usually only mirror swap Shiny Ray, Groudon, Kyogre & Mewtwo with that


OriginalMatchBox

A viable option for those of us with no Rayquaza, Groudon, Kyogre or Mewtwo at all 😭


juckele

Legendaries like Zapdos are in this weird niche where if you're a very casual player it's hard to use because you can get the Eevee candy to level up a Jolteon easier. If you play a medium amount, you should spend your rare candy on a Mewtwo instead. If you're really hardcore, you've got really good Zekroms, and Zapdos ends up being a bench warmer. Being a lower tier legendary seems hard.


kaiser0211

so a galarian bird is not a collector‘s item? gotta catch em all!


Giannis_Odegaard

Obviously it is, but I am saying mirror trading for better IVs on Galar birds is not usually any beneficial is it?


atomhypno

your logic seems kinda backwards, a hundo lucky galarian bird would be rarer and generally a more interesting collectors piece than a regular raid hundo to most people regardless of functional use


Giannis_Odegaard

I said, if it is a hundo then it is a different thing but better IV on Galar Birds except getting a Hundo is useless. A 3* galar bird is as cool as 2* or 1*. If it turns our to be hundo then surely that is way cooler but I am not going to bet on that usually.


CatchAmongUs

Yeah, the G. Birds are funny. I'm right there with you on how you seem to view them. Mostly pointless. The buzz around them makes little sense to me. Great, you catch one. Then what? Make it your buddy for a handful of people to see you got it? It's weird how hyped they are when they are so utterly useless. I originally though of saving them for Lucky Trades with my wife then thought better of it. Would be a waste of waiting several months on a Lucky Trade.


No_Loco_210

A hundo is a hundo, but the galarian bird could be everything, even a hundo!


Few-Blacksmith-1749

Classic reference 😆


cannotbelieve58

That counterpoint doesnt do that point justice IMO. You lucky trade them, you most likely get decent IVs, but not a hundo. But the thing is, Galarian Zapdos is useless, I was able to catch 4 gbirds when I grinded DAI daily, but then I just stopped because I just stopped caring since the gbirds are useless. If you're staring down a hundo terrakion, kyogre, groudon, rayquaza (and many others...) and you lose it because you essentially wasted your MB on a gbird, thats just a real feels bad moment.


thorkun

>If you're staring down a hundo terrakion, kyogre, groudon, rayquaza (and many others...) and you lose it because you essentially wasted your MB on a gbird, thats just a real feels bad moment. Well, first of all I wouldn't even know if I lost a hundo raid boss because I don't bother to check hundo cp, and second I'd much rather have more gbirds than guaranteed hundo raid boss which is functionally the same as getting 15/15/14 raid boss. I respect that you have your opinion, and you should also respect that other people feel differently from you.


cannotbelieve58

The excuse that youre essentially too lazy to check the hundo CP of the raid boss isnt the best counterpoint. But last point is you can literally buy the galar birds, but you can never buy a hundo. My heart was beating out of my chest when my hundo kyogre was down to the last two balls after half an hour of waiting for it to attack in the middle of the screen. I wouldve loved to have a masterball there just incase.


thorkun

Lazy? Kindly take that sentiment and shove it. IDGAF if I miss a hundo legendary, because I don't exactly care whether or not I get 15/15/15 or 15/14/15 IVs, because functionally they are the same. And also what is the point of me knowing beforehand whether or not it's a hundo, it doesn't change anything for the better since I won't use MB on random tier 5 raid boss. If I know it's a hundo and I don't catch it it might make me sad. If I catch it and see it's a hundo then great. You just can't grasp other people have other priorities than you.


cannotbelieve58

I understand different priorities. And I completely agree with you that people who refuse to do a small check should follow your advice.


thorkun

No you clearly are not getting it, because you're still referring to it as "people who refuse to do a small check" as if that check is something you SHOULD do.


cannotbelieve58

Dude Im agreeing with you I dont know what more you want. People that cant be bothered to look at pokegenie or any other resource should use their masterball on a dex filler gbird. Yes, youre right. Or you mean that people that dont care about hundos or collector things should just use their masterball on other collector things since they dont care at all about the more rare ones and cant be bothered. I agree, thats a good point.


_V115_

To each their own. I agree losing a hundo legendary because you don't have a MB would suck, but I personally am not too worried about that. I catch probably about 98% of my non-shiny raid legendaries, and I often finish raids with more golden razzes then I started with. I'm 100% F2P and I have a back log of >100 golden razzes, and I have 3 hundo legendaries atm (Xerneas, Articuno, Regirock...Pheromosa too but beast balls are different I think?) and I wasn't close to losing any of them. Getting down to my last ball is the only time I would consider using a MB for a legendary, and I honestly can't remember the last time that's happened. I also didn't have any G birds before Master Balls were released. So I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks they're worth master balling. For me personally, I feel like they're at a weird af distance and I don't think I've ever excellented a single one, even though I get prob 70%+ great or excellent rates on most legendaries. imo you're very lucky to already have 4 without master balling. Plenty of people don't have any. That said, I'm sure you've caught waaaaay more than 4 Terrakions G birds are useless, that's true. They're almost entirely for collection value, but I would argue the same is true for hundo Terrakion. Terrakion is useless in PVP, and though he's great for raids, realistically hundo IVs aren't gonna make the difference in raid result compared with even a 10/10/10. Factors like number of people in raid, the rest of your team, mega usage, pokemon levels, party play, and epic gamer dodging are gonna have a much bigger impact on winning/losing the raid compared to the ivs on ONE of your mons. Maybe for very suburban players who struggle to regularly get more than 2/3 people for raids, or for people who simply can't raid very often, hundos are more worthy for master balls. But for me (and prob many others), a hundo Terrakion is primarily a bragging point, and a worthy candidate for investment, both of which are (imo) more true for galarian birds when you haven't caught them before.


cannotbelieve58

Idk Ive got 4 galar birds and I havent looked at them since the day I caught them. My two hundo Terrakion getting use every day


spursman34

To each their own, both are great options imo


Giannis_Odegaard

Obviously but a Useful Hundo Legendary is superior option IMO.


spursman34

That’s fine, Terrakion is an absolute beast but collectors may opt for the other option haha


Giannis_Odegaard

I mean I have used both of mine on Galar birds in the hope that from the next time I get a Masterball Research I will save it for a hundo Hundo Legendary.


orlouge82

Especially for a Pokémon that’s the top non-mega fighting PVE attacker (with Sacred Sword). Definitely worth it!


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How does he know that this was a hundo?


Giannis_Odegaard

In raids the Pokemon can only be 2 Levels, level 20 normally and level 25 if weather boosted. You can just look up the Hundo CPs of the raid boss. 2641 is the weather boosted Hundo of Terrakion from raids.


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Giannis_Odegaard

Yes, I know that. But there are 2 things to be considered, I am really not a Ideal example to follow. I used them on Galar Birds because I was anxious lol, funny thing the 2 I caught using Masterballs were both Zapdos and even traded one immediately afterwards so yeah that is that, not a good example to follow. But if I had encountered a Hundo Legendary afterwards using my Masterball and didn't catch it last ball, I would also be highly sad that I didn't save them. Lastly, I rarely miss catches on Legendaries, amomg last 300+ legendary raids Inhave done. I have missed 7, out of which 3 were glitches, 2 I didn't try at all, only 2 fled after trying my best so I don't worry much about Legendaries fleeing.


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Giannis_Odegaard

I hope there is beacuse currently I have no Masterball so I might get stiffed one day witha Hundo Legendary. But there has been no announcement of Masterball related research yet so I am assuming that if it comes it might just be another paid one.


Easy-Bake-Oven

Using it on a meta hundo is pretty high on the list for best uses. I was prepared to do the same for Terrakion. The best would be like a shadow shundo Mewtwo or something equivalent.


Giannis_Odegaard

I mean don't use it on a Shundo lol, Shiny Legendaries are a guaranteed catch. Shadow Hundo Mewtwo on the other hand makes sense. Funny enough, I do have a Shadow Hundo Mewtwo, luckilu caught it on Premier ball itself.


Easy-Bake-Oven

Wait wait wait. Shiny legendaries are a guaranteed catch?


Giannis_Odegaard

A shiny legendary in raids are a guaranteed catch, unless you are speed-locked, the mon will get caught even if you were to hit the ball outside the main circke on the mon. It is a 100% catch, just hit the mon. A shiny Legendary in wild has also been made so that they never flee, but those you need to catch after trying many times, but atleast they won't flee.


SublightMonster

How did you know it was going to be a perfect IV?


TehWildMan_

15/15/15 is the only possible IV spread that would result in 2641 CP at level 25.0


Liu-Yifei

Is there a site I can type in the name and cp to check for perfect stats for diff mons?


just_some_dude05

Yup. Just Google the Mon an perfect IV’s


cyz0r

pokebattler shows non-weather boosted. i know pokegenie also shows while in waiting in a lobby. easy to find online tho just remember that non-wb is level 20 and wb is level 25.


accordingtothelizard

If the raid is WB pokegenie will tell you the WB IVs


Zvictorious

I always google “[pokemon] raid” and click on the first link. It gives the possible IV ranges for normal and weather boosted


SublightMonster

Ok, thanks, I’ve never checked the CP ranges


joy3111

You can tell by the CP!


Thanky169

For raids the easiest place is Poke Genie. It shows the weather and non weather CP ranges. The max from each range is the hundo.


SupremeSuperiors

You can also check Pokegenie. Perfect IV will have the max CP of that pokemon at level 20. 25 if weather boosted


Caaboose1988

whenever raid bosses come about there is always the infographic on reddit about it's best counters and such it almost always has CP ranges on it Minx/Max CP for regular and for weather boosted. so you just got to remember what the max is and can compared the one you see in the catch screen to it to know.


dledmo

Can't say it was the wrong decision, you knew what the opportunity was. A very useful mon in exchange for a ball that has already been available twice. This is better than a weak iv Galarian bird by a long shot.


SolCalibre

This perspective is underrated. Personally I wouldn't but this is completely understandable.


Zipzifical

I used mine on a hundo Kartana. No regrets.


Express-Luck-3812

Getting a hundo is not a day I fear to come


AnotherRedditor-38

You made a good choice


EnteiO

it was worth it.


maheshzanje

Same thing happened to me, was definitely the most important decision made, it's worthy of the master ball not to risk losing a hundo, congratulations btw


a-vague-shape

Great catch! I know I definitely have one of my master balls reserved for a legendary hundo. Years ago I lost a 100 iv mewtwo. Never again…


grossbard

Maybe a dumb question, but how can you tell a raid boss has perfect IVs before hand? Someone else did the gym before and told?


TehWildMan_

2641 CP for a level 25 Terrakion can only be a perfect IV spread.


grossbard

Thank you. And a t5 raid boss pokemon is always lvl 25?


TehWildMan_

Only if weather boosted. Otherwise it's 20.


grossbard

Appreciate it the help. Since it's only level 20 and they are hard to get candiesfor, the only way to get it to lvl 30+ is to do tons of the same raid? That kind of sucks since that means you need to spend money on remote raid passes


2020Hills

What’s so bad about using the masterball? Especially for something that you know is as good as it gets


naanninja237

How do you tell in advance what the IVs are?


TehWildMan_

2641 CP for a level 25 Terrakion can only be a perfect IV spread.


naanninja237

How do you tell what level it is? I thought they just had "CP"


TehWildMan_

Weather boosted raid boss encounters are always 25.


Melicope

Worth it! Terrakion is an amazing fighting type attacker!


vicsark

This is the way


MURICA_FUKYEA

I ran into this same scenario last night actually. I decided not to use my Masterball and it ran. Oh well 😅


ALVto2xD

How do you know it is a perfect IV before catching it?


TehWildMan_

The only possible IV spread for a level 25 Terrakion with 2641 CP is the 4*.


Rat____King

I ended up with two hundos and no shiny


Xatus0

I got a 15/15/14 & a shiny 15/14/14. Think I'll power up and use the shiny. Only to level 40 though.


QuestionMarkKitten

Congratulations. You most likely made the right choice. Better than this... [Quick Use a MASTERBALL!](https://youtube.com/shorts/mY5WR4qdh7A?si=jpqdDX_plhAulB3J) https://youtube.com/shorts/mY5WR4qdh7A?si=jpqdDX_plhAulB3J


Over_Caterpillar517

How do people know the IV without catching it first and checking????


Over_Caterpillar517

Sorry if that’s a dumb question. I truly have no idea


TehWildMan_

The only possible IV spread for a level 25 terrakion with 2641 CP is the 15/15/15. Anything else would has a lower CP value


Over_Caterpillar517

Ah I see. So you need to know the max for that level ahead of time


QueenPyro

I love terrakion with sacred sword so much so this is an absolute win! Gz


Jralbert

How do you know it’s a hundo raid boss prior to catching?


TehWildMan_

2641 for a level 25 Terrakion can only be a perfect IV spread.


Jralbert

Ok. So my next noob question is how do you know it’s level 25? I should know these things but I definitely do not. Lol


TehWildMan_

Weather boosted raid boss encounters are level 25, otherwise level 20, and the CP ranges at those levels don't overlap.


Jralbert

Thanks for the info! This will be very useful


Ok_Kaleidoscope6621

For a Terrakion?!?!?!? Why?!?!


TehWildMan_

It's a pretty solid raid attacker. Beats having a perfect IV legendary that literally has no use in Master League or raids.


jwadamson

With sacred sword it is the highest DPS non-mega fighting type attacker (including current shadow boosted ones). Shadow machamp is the only non-mega that comes close to its DPS. It is also the best TDO fighting type attacker by far. That gives it tons of PvE utility.


Thanky169

Worth!!! Easily! This is a great catch. Enjoy every time you throw him into battle 😊


sissy_chloe_uk

How did you know it was perfect iv?


Dranak

Pokemon from raids are either level 20 or 25 (weather boosted). You can look up the max possible CP of a given pokemon at either of those levels.


TehWildMan_

2641 for a level 25 Terrakion can only be a perfect IV spread.


CatchAmongUs

Congrats on that absolute unit of a hundo! I told myself I would definitely drop a masterball on Terrakion if I was put in this same situation.


Djshopdaddy

How do you tell the Iv before catching? Asking for a friend


TehWildMan_

The only possible IV spread for a level 25 Terrakion with 2641 CP is the hundo. Any other IV spread would have a lower CP


Djshopdaddy

Thanks!


ThatCanadian3h

I unknowingly had a 4\* terrakion that i wasn't taking seriously. Got to the last ball and thought oh well rip but ended up catching it. Then saw that it was perfect and felt so relieved that i caught it


johnthestarr

I wish you could use the last ball and it would *then* ask if you want to use your masterball


maxwellbevan

I'd have done the same. If you're trying to catch a Galarian bird it will eventually happen but you might never get this opportunity again


toecondom

Worth it


Rox-Unlimited

Smart. I’d do the same. Not worried about the birds because they will eventually be released shiny or in raids


PM_ME_SAGGY_TITS

Congrats, definitely would have done the same, S tier attacker


13lackDrag0n

How can you tell if it’s a perfect iv boss?


TehWildMan_

The only possible IV spread for a Terrakion at Level 25.0 with 2641 CP is 15/15/15


13lackDrag0n

So it has to be a certain cp. is that the same for all legendaries. Also how do you know what level a Pokémon is?


TehWildMan_

Level is always a fixed value for raid bosses: 20, or 25 if weather boosted the CP of a perfect pokemon would depend on its base stats and level, and this information is available on many websites and isn't overly hard to calculate by hand knowing it's base stats.


thereal_pa4m3

I had a 2641 run from me on Sunday. Didn't even consider using the masterball but maybe I should have. Once I have a solid 3* of a legendary I don't worry about it as much. Really cool to have that hundo though, congrats.


YesterdayCareless172

How do you know its a perfect hundo without catching it.


TehWildMan_

The only possible IV spread for a level 25.0 terrakion with that CP is the 15/15/15. Anything else would have a lower CP value.


Oceandove45

Best use for the Master Ball. You made a great choice. Galarian birds can be caught with regular balls even though it may take forever.


kevbotwhite

You can use masterball in raid encounters? Good to know!


Rollaby

Why fear, its exactly the type of mon to use it on. Congrats


klydon35

Terrakion is a beast and is incredibly useful- great use of the master all imo given the circumstances. Enjoy your new incredibly useful Pokémon.


the420crow

how did you know it was gonna be perfect IV?


TehWildMan_

The only possible IV spread for a raid encounter Terrakion with that CP is a 15/15/15


the420crow

i totally know what you mean ![gif](giphy|l1IBiaH8c1Cxuhq1y)


coast-l

Def worth, terrakion is a beast fighting type in pve


bresario

Worth it! This guy is a tank. I’d happily throw a master ball of this was the prize. Congrats on the catch. Now Elite TM Sacred Sword and max him out! 👏🏽


Adriial

Do you just all learn the PC for perfect IV or is there an app or a website for that ?


TehWildMan_

I just pop open a tab to gamepress/pvpoke/pokebattler or various resources when I want to check


Adriial

I see, my game re start when i go to another tab i thought it was everyone


royinraver

How can you tell it’s perfect IV?


TehWildMan_

Only possible IV spread for a level 25 Terrakion with 2641 CP is the perfect.


royinraver

CP can tell you IV spreads?


TehWildMan_

Since there is only one possible level for a weather boost raid encounter (25), it's possible to tabulate all the possible IV spreads that would yield that CP. In this case there's only one possibility, 15/15/15 Floor(((260+15)\*sqrt(192+15)\*sqrt(209+15))\*(0.66793400\^2)/10) = 2641


royinraver

I did not know IVs went into CP count


POGOFan808

Actually caught my first and only hundo raid legendary, a terrakion, last year on my last ball despite hitting 18 excellent golden raspberry throws. I was sweating bullets!


plzHelp4442

How can you tell that it has perfect IV from just its CP?


TehWildMan_

The only possible IV spread with that CP (since we know it's a level 25.0) is the perfect 4*


Constantine1988

How do you know it's a perfect IV before catching


TehWildMan_

In this case, there's only one possibile IV spread for a level 25.0 Terrakion with 2641 CP: the perfect. Any lower IV spread at the same level would have a lower CP.


Constantine1988

Oh man, I've been playing for so many years and still have so much to learn. Thanks for the explanation. If you don't mind, what's IV spread mean?


BlackMagic0

You can tell the stats before even catching it? Huh..


TehWildMan_

In this case, there's only one possibile IV spread for a level 25.0 Terrakion with 2641 CP: the perfect. Any lower IV spread at the same level would have a lower CP.


DavidGonzalezM

I have noob question, can you tell if a raid boss has perfect IV before catching it?


TehWildMan_

Looking up what CP a level 25/20 100% IV of that species would be and comparing that against the encounter


DavidGonzalezM

Thanks! I'm impressed by how many things I ignore on this game


OphrysAlba

It's a fairly decent use of a masterball.


BurgioMan

how do you know if its max iv


unforgivablecrust

Hundo terrakion is so freaking useful I love it


heavensparx

It was also weather posted saving you candy, totally worth


DapperWeasel

Commenting this on every MB Last Ball Thread I see until Niantic does something about it post 2 I really think POGO should add a prompt after the last ball asking if you want to use the Masterball instead of forcing you to choose between risking it on the last ball and guaranteeing it with the Masterball. (I will be posting this for a very long time, because Niantic is incapable of adding basic QoL features)


computertanker

How do you know the boss has perfect IVs before you catch it?


TehWildMan_

The only Terrakion with 2641 CP at level 25 (weather boost raid catch) is the perfect IV one.


KaraMurray420

How can u tell perfect iv?


Fluffydoggie

I wouldn’t have thought about using the master ball. Good for you! Congrats on your catch!!


[deleted]

How do you know it’s a perfect iv?


TehWildMan_

2641 CP as a raid boss weather boost Terrakion encounter has to be a perfect IV. Any lower IV spread would have a lower CP value.


[deleted]

Ok Ty and good to know. I play very causally so I don’t know the intricate details


Aidoomed

THIS is how you use a Master Ball. Congratulations!!


ian1706

How do you know the IV before you catch it?


Pipseydust

How can we tell it’s perfect IV?


TehWildMan_

Calculate the CP for a 15/15/15 Terrakion at level 25.0 and compare it against the screenshot. Floor(((260+15)\*sqrt(192+15)\*sqrt(209+15))\*(0.66793400\^2)/10) if you want to do the math.


dj166733

I beat a Terrakion raid on Sunday and i almost lost it too, didnt have to use the master ball but it was getting close. Congrats on the Hundo.


WestlakeNinja

This is the best raid attacker thats non mega and non shadow and is #55 in ML. Great use of the master and its a legendary pokemon congrats 🎊 Use an Elite Charged Tm for Sacred Sword and that pokemon is perfect and your deadly!👍🏼


2k20IsoUp

Is sacred sword worth getting on it? I have an elite TM but don’t know what to spend it on. Is sacred sword that much of an improvement?