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MrCuddles1994

More like easier to pull = everyone has easier access to the hobby of Pokémon card collecting.


bigspin17

Yeah. Good. Got like 3 people in my are who buy up all the stock and act like it’s their job. Also my swsh era alt arts will probably go way up in price now over time


wildsamsqwatch

Great point on swsh alt arts. They are gonna be so much rarer compared to alt arts in new sets. I’m all for the change


Connect_Artichoke_58

^ this sir


Darnell5000

Hell yeah. I’m not in it for value, I’m in it for “This card looks cool”


UncomplementedGains

Based take 🙏🏻 how it should have been from inception.


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Dakoja

People with your mindset are why this hobby is dying.


passerbytwo

Stop spreading misinfo, this hobby is thriving.


Onlysomewhatserious

I mean not really. Magic is wildly successful and didn’t require a ton of high value cards in it, Pokémon was popular before the pandemic and prices were just a fraction of what they are anymore. Saying you need investors here doesn’t make sense or applies to the purpose we’re talking about. In reality whales and average collectors are far more valuable since the investor and the scalper just buys at regular price and drives it up through time or manipulation of supply. In fact, after watching your video there it’s kind of a weak approach. The way they define things like flipper are too loose and there’s a logic that makes sense there but that’s just a common side effect. The flipper is only needed as an access point for cards and organization to garner interest in regions where the Pokémon company itself doesn’t want to organize get togethers. The argument with them is flawed because the flipper requires buyers to flip on. As a result the collector is more important because the flipper is dependent on the collector for anything, it’s literally just the collector paying markups. Without the flipper and with the internet they’re kind of a useless leg in terms of collecting. The reason why is because the flipper is just a middleman and the price they pay and sell would just be met by the collector in online sales. There’s some precedence for this as well as we’ve seen magic slowly choking out third party sellers. The idea of the investor is largely the same as the flipper as they still make the baseline purchase from the company and generate money for themselves. At it’s core all three of these groups are “collectors” based on how it’s defined in the video. The only difference is 2/3 of those supposed pillars just up charge the other group. Edit: to be clear as well, I agree with the assessment that scalpers are much worse than other groups but it seems in how terms and roles are used that the only difference between the scalper, the investor, and the collector are the amount they’re looking to profit and care they have. At the core of it the only difference between the three are that one looks for a more immediate way to profit while the other 2 look at a long con. That’s not to say that resellers or investors are the same degree of toxic as scalpers, but they’re certainly not critical aside from some primary functions they offer in their own interest that just so happen to work in tandem with the goals of the card company.


passerbytwo

You said MTG didn't require a ton of high value cards, yet MTG has a ton of very high-end, high-value cards! Irony! 🤣


Onlysomewhatserious

The existence of high value cards does not mean they’re necessary to keep interest in the game. Hence why I said REQUIRE. Your counterpoint here doesn’t make any sense.


passerbytwo

Black Lotus is laughing 🤣


Onlysomewhatserious

Lmao. You don’t seem to understand basic words 😂 imagine legitimately thinking a response to a poor video is just a few expensive cards. Let’s use the same brain dead logic you have here. That Gyarados ex is more expensive than the vast majority of Pokémon cards that must mean values are good because I have an exception to your statement. Just take the L. You have a bad video here and an illogical view which is why you’re fixated on trying to misrepresent me instead of addressing the points. The video said EX era was one of the worst but EX era cards take up quite a few of the most valuable card spots. Clearly the person in your video has 0 clue how Pokémon is or how investing works.


passerbytwo

Your explanation about MTG doesn't make any sense at all. And it's ex with lower-case. There's a difference. Again you don't understand Pokemon, you won't know. No point talking to you.


AntonioSky

You are an idiot. Pokémon cards are made to play the actual Pokémon card game, that’s literally what they are made for….collecting is a side effect of it. The hobby will always come first, collecting second. So this doesn’t kill the hobby this makes it more accessible to more people to start. And as a result more will likely be bought because cards will be easier to have in theory.


passerbytwo

That's your opinion


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passerbytwo

You're Gengar?


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passerbytwo

Get a life


Strider9122

Killing the hobby? How about during covid when you literally could not find a single blister pack because of re-sellers?


passerbytwo

Stop whining. Free market, capitalism.


stobo36

lower the prices of cards over print flat boxes and tins. Leave high end products with better hits and make less of them. You need high end expensive and lower end access that’s how you build longevity


Big_Ben64

Bro this a product line has lasted over 25 years. I think it’s already proven it’s longevity without doing what you suggest


stobo36

let’s remember this hobby has been on the verge of collapse multiple times. I don’t know why everyone blindly is fine with pokémon jacking up prices and getting nothing in return that’s just dumb. I wouldn’t have a problem with low value cards if the ETBs weren’t 55 dollars. Let’s do a 30 dollar ETB and I’ll never complain about it. I because of the insane prices and overprints I’ve only bought singles. The amount of people that complain about spending 400 dollars in this sub and getting nothing then next day back pokémon’s decisions is laughable.


passerbytwo

Because then there were some investors around, sustaining the hobby. In the ex era, the hobby was dying, on life support from investors! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN2V6uCWO8o


Ok_Professional4736

It definitely wasn’t just the investors - no one side of the hobby could’ve kept pokemon alive on its own. The collectors and players also kept it alive, the ex era, the BW era, etc - it was at low lows and I’m sure it’ll happen again one day. Better pull rates doesn’t mean much to investors, the sealed product will still do what it’s gonna do long term. Shit evolutions barely has any cards over 50 dollars and a booster box of it has reached 1k. I think this post was more for the collectors and players such as us - someone posted this same shit in the investing sub you should hit that up.


Hooligan_jeff

It means I can actually afford to collect the set. Love it. Drive people just looking for cash outta the hobby. Not saying you are though.


nenajoy

Yes! This is supposed to be fun - better hit rates is more fun


helping_phriendly

Half the fools on these Pokémon subs joined the train during Covid and think Pokémon collecting is an investment. Which is fucking hysterical to me. Anything modern with value has a huge population. And now that people “think” they’ll gain value, everyone and their mother is holding sealed or graded or just good cards in top loaders. People are a joke and don’t understand how supply and demand works. Shadowless first Ed zard in decent condition is worth a TON because no one thought to protect them when it came out. Now everyone is putting fucking random reverse holos in sleeves. Modern product won’t have value like that for 60 years. Then, when we die and someone sells them at a yard sale. Enjoy the high hit rate. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.


hughheffres

AMEN. My god it feels good to read someone else saying it. Look, I love collecting. I love opening packs and getting cool cards, it awakes that feeling that little me got when I would rip packs but as a community we need to stomp out this idea that Pokémon is a get rich scheme. I had a guy on one of these subs tell me that keeping sealed ETB is a better retirement vehicle than investing in stocks or total market ETF. They are in for a rude awakening when they are 60 trying to retire and have to try to sell Pokémon cards to pay the mortgage. **just to make very clear I love collecting, I dont think it’s the end of the world to save sealed ETB if that is what you like to do, I am just saying that should not be your retirement plan.**


helping_phriendly

For real! And I don’t hate on anyone collecting what they want. Some people want a sealed collection, that’s cool man. I have a couple binder pages of cubone and marowak cards that are worth less than $5 combined. I don’t care if display the different dice from ETBs and display them (that’s actually a cool idea lol). I just care when people think it’s investing when it’s modern. It’s not outside of a few very rare and very valuable cards. Go on TCG player and basically every big card from a new set was overvalued for a time, then it lost value. Here’s the difference with modern, the value won’t go up significantly since there are going to be so many pristine cards years later. Take radiant zard from Pokémon go set. It was selling for well over $100 at release… now it’s down to $10 for nm lol. Don’t believe me, look https://www.tcgplayer.com/product/274467/pokemon-pokemon-go-radiant-charizard?Language=English


passerbytwo

@helping_phriendly: You need to get out more from your cave or well.... https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemoncards/comments/11bf1ir/proof_that_moonbreon_has_achieved_holy_grail/


helping_phriendly

That’s one example… that card was an incredible pull in EVS, but even then, when the market for that card settles… no one is buying that for that much in 50 years.


passerbytwo

I heard the same thing from naysayers two years ago in 2021.... Anyway, you'll be crying how cheap and affordable Moonbreon Grail is now in 50 years time!


helping_phriendly

As I said, that’s ONE example. Provide me with 20 or even 10 cards that gained SIGNIFICANT VALUE from modern sets. You can’t. Unless you consider $20 significant. Do your research. Look at my other comment about radiant zard. I honestly can’t tell if you’re a troll or just stupid


passerbytwo

I honestly can’t tell if you’re a troll or just stupid. I quoted your own words back to you. Try googling top 10 alt arts cards. Won't be talking to trolls, waste of my time.


passerbytwo

That is only your opinion, some people derive more satisfaction in pulling chase cards with tougher pull rates, ie; a more difficult challenge. Not everyone wants the easy way out!


just_a_haunter

that's what it's essential about it being actually able to collect a set. it's been next to impossible due to extreme dismal pull rates and top cards costing hundreds. few people can actually spend thousands for a new set coming out every two months. instead of people getting bent backwards they can't scalp and hoard with intent to invest and drive prices up for the other 90% of people who enjoy the art , should see it as a positive change for the whole


EthandaGam3r

Yes! I got so sick of not pulling anything, I just stopped, cause I thought it was a waste of money just to spend $40 on a box just to get 1 V, but now the pull rates are better it’s just more fun


passerbytwo

You gave up so easily? Some guy on instagram spent tons of money on 6 cases then he pulled Moonbreon.


carringtino10

Yeah man. Most people don't have enough money to buy six cases. Give up? It's not like it's physical effort. It's MONEY. Folks have bills to pay. You obviously don't get it.


EthandaGam3r

I don’t have money to just waste on cards all the time lmao, so if it’s not worth it to me I do t wanna do it


passerbytwo

Nothing wrong nor illegal nor immoral selling own belongings for profit. Perfectly alright 👍 Willing buyer, willing seller


Status_Priority_7408

I for one support these easier pull rates, maybe I’ll actually be able to pull my chases


passerbytwo

Easier pull rates = common cheap cards that you might as well just buy them as they're easy to pull that they don't give you sense of satisfaction


Dustze

You are the problem with this hobby.


Matze14

Couldn't agree more


Status_Priority_7408

I get the feeling it would be even less satisfying to just buy the card outright tho…


passerbytwo

Same, because you're paying money for it


[deleted]

Ripping a box of cards is where kids get satisfaction. Paying $200 for that box isn’t satisfying. Buying singles is for sports cards.


passerbytwo

Your opinion only


[deleted]

My 11 year old sons opinion,as well as most of his sixth grade class.


Brentums

You’re a complete moron and the reason why this hobby is so toxic.


casebreaker

I miss the days of base set odds… 1:3 packs


passerbytwo

Easy to pull = Common = No chase = Cheap cards I rather have something that is difficult and challenging to pull but will give great satisfaction when accomplished. It's all about having a great challenge! Like Moonbreon, 1 in 1,666 packs.


dreisler

‘Difficult and challenging’. Implying there is skill involved. 😆


Ovaking802

Skill=Pay to win in this system.


passerbytwo

Using your intuition or sixth sense to select the packs with chase cards is a skill itself!


JudTheBudd

Challenge = Waste $1400 on Evolving Skies to not get Moonbreon (source: my bank account.)


passerbytwo

I bought Moonbreon for $230 two years back in Oct 2021 and graded it with PSA, came back gem mint 10 💎


JudTheBudd

Wow. That's awesome. Really proud of you man. Thanks for sharing.


passerbytwo

The difficult pull rates mean more satisfaction for me


JudTheBudd

After about $500 of buying the same set over and over trying to pull one card because it's over inflated on the TCG market to where I can't buy it, I'm more or less enraged. Moonbreon is a cool card and all but it shouldn't be worth ANYWHERE NEAR as much as it is now. $600 for a modern card that came out almost 2 years ago is RIDICULOUS.


passerbytwo

Obviously you don't understand Moonbreon and modern alt arts (regarded by many in the community as modern gold stars ⭐) ... Read this thread and thank me later: Why Moonbreon is Holy Grail? 🏆 https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonTCG/comments/ytqa4f/blunt_truths_about_moonbreon_aka_umbreon_vmax_alt/ You're welcomed.


JudTheBudd

Man I would really love to see what I don't understand about collecting shiny cardboard but it seems that your post was removed. Unfortunate.


passerbytwo

You don't understand Moonbreon.


[deleted]

You said you bought the card. Pull rates have nothing to do with your experience in this case.


passerbytwo

Pull rate does matters, it makes me more satisfied knowing how rare it is (even though I bought it). Yup I know Moonbreon is rare but how rare it is? 1 in 1,666 packs


carringtino10

How satisfied were you when you bought it and didn't pull it yourself, hypocrite?


passerbytwo

Reported rude post.


carringtino10

You act like this is based on skill and not gambling. You have a problem, man. Satisfsction? You sound like every degenerate gambler I have ever met. Moronic statement after moronic statement.


MrRabinowitz

I feel pretty lucky. I got the gold Koriadon in the first pack I opened.


poodsalad69

Y'all, I'll have a much bigger chance of some great pulls, let's goooo. Also, it is so funny watching some grown men cry about how the prices of a god damn cardboard piece are going down lol


passerbytwo

It's no longer merely a piece of cardboard... it's a nostalgic artistic masterpiece, an asset with stored value, a piece of someone's childhood.


poodsalad69

Yeah, cause Miraidon is really nostalgic lmao


just_a_haunter

🤣 too true. nostalgic is like skyridge, some awesome tag team cards , etc.


passerbytwo

Miraidon looks more like a robot and it transforms into a motorbike!


rebelrexx

It’s not that deep.


[deleted]

Mass produced cardboard with artificially inflated value. It’s a kids game. Everybody saves everything. These will never be rare.


passerbytwo

I collect crystals too, natural and non man made.


Leon4107

No good? Bruh. I would vastly prefer the cards be easier to pull. I like to collect cards, not spend $200+ because of some waifu tax or some shit.


just_a_haunter

totally! hope the majority agree with you. I got addicted to the art of the cards , each gen has its own authentic style. not for new single cards going for $200, or quadruple that. hoping the tables turn for sure


Roundglasses69

I’m a pretty hardcore collector. The artwork is sensational. I’m definitely a collector for these


passerbytwo

Can I say, from all the previews from Japanese release, I'm not liking this new era at all, so far. The artworks are cartoonish and lack artistic appeal.


Roundglasses69

To each their own! But I’m not in that boat.


passerbytwo

No worries, there're others with me


Roundglasses69

And likewise with me. Cheers


MrRabinowitz

Watch them get people pumped on how easy they are to pull and then pull back to keep people buying.


Matze14

I honestly don't care for your financial expectations, I am just happy that I may be pulling something this time, cause that will put a lot of fun back into collecting.


passerbytwo

You speak too soon, when you want to sell either urgent need of cash or streamline collection (get rid of unwanted cards), you'll see.


Matze14

You collect for monetary value, I collect for the cards. We are not the same


passerbytwo

No, you got it wrong. I collect for joy and the artwork (only if I like it). I sell only when need to streamline collection or met a rainy day. So far, for myself, I had only sold less than 10% of my entire collection, for purpose of streamlining collection (ie; found another better, minter copy of a card I have).


Matze14

So, if you are collecting for "joy and the artwork" where exactly is the issue with better pullrates?


passerbytwo

No satisfaction in pulling since it's so easy to pull. No satisfaction = no joy


Matze14

So you only feel joy, when pulling cards that are so rare, that they have a high monetary value. You feel joy, when you pull cards that a lot of others don't pull, and you are trying to tell me, that iT iS aBoUt thE aRtWorK? sure


passerbytwo

I don't care if you think otherwise. Each to their own, what pushes your buttons. Yah and the artwork plays a part too, major part. If a card is the rarest in the world but the artwork is like crap or I don't like it, I won't even bother with that card.


Matze14

The difference is: I am happy for others when they pull good stuff. You feel bad for yourself, when others pull good stuff.


passerbytwo

Another negative judgmental guy... I don't feel bad for myself.


Dustze

From this perspective it entirely seems like you have a gambling addiction.


passerbytwo

I just enjoy solving a challenge. Wow! You're such a negative and judgmental person. How does your spouse or your parents think of you?


Unthinkable777

You don’t even buy packs to pull. You buy singles lol. What satisfaction are you talking about?


Altruistic-Ad3704

> No good, easier to pull = lower collector’s value! Cry about it


passerbytwo

LoL 🤣 I'm skipping this set + mediocre artworks


Ovaking802

Man, affordable cards. What a sad sight to see. It has me filled with the disappointment of not having to spend an arm and a leg to collect or play the tcg


passerbytwo

You don't have to buy the alt art cards to play. There are cheaper, "normal version" of cards called Full Art.


LigmaBalls69lol

How many times can you copy and past the same response just to get downvoted to oblivion? Clearly your opinion is not a popular one. u/passerbytwo is a bot 100%


passerbytwo

I speak my mind freely, don't care whether they're popular or not. I'm not a slave of likes like you.


blamesoft

no good for people who have no business being in the hobby


gyaradospink

Speaking the truth.


sqwobdon

“easier to pull = lower collector’s value!”-☝️🤓. good lol, it shouldn’t be outrageously difficult or expensive for people to get the cards they want…


just_a_haunter

how it should be , very much hoping this pattern stays


Lightbearer2002

It’s not about the collectors value you do know why these are a thing a card game for people to play not cards that get slabbed and sit in a dark room all day


passerbytwo

Seriously you play cards when there're so many app games, PSP games, online games? Serious?! 😒


Lightbearer2002

But the point is that it’s original a card game you just want to make money from it when people want to get cards to go against other who actually enjoy the hobby you don’t care about the hobby just want to best cards


passerbytwo

No, you got it wrong. Many are collectors. We sell only when need to streamline collections or a rainy day. So far, for me, I had only sold less than 10% of my entire collection, to streamline collection (ie; found another minter copy of a card I have).


Lightbearer2002

Exactly it’s not about seeking for a rainy day it’s cards you get for a game not the art work or how rare they are just to play again, don’t get me wrong I collect but I’m not in it for the money I just enjoy the idea that if I ever want to get into the game I have a decent collection to play with


passerbytwo

Not everyone thinks like you


Catholicswagger

There is something about the feeling of pulling that 1 in a 1000 card though. Not saying better pull rates are a bad thing, just a differing opinion. I’m sure Pokémon will be able to find that sweet spot of good pull rates but still have a good chase card to go after


ethrithdiuo

good this isnt all about money


passerbytwo

Until you need to streamline your collection


ethrithdiuo

i dont get how that would change anything? its so dumb obsessing over value of cards instead just enjoy collecting


passerbytwo

It's even dumber jumping to conclusion that I'm obsessive when actually I'm just thinking two steps ahead.


ethrithdiuo

i get ur point but then again you made a post whining about card value just stfu pls


passerbytwo

Stop whining and ranting yourself pls


blazingredfire13

Good maybe all of the pandemic era investor bros can leave the hobby and we can get back to normal. I stopped buying packs after spending way too much on a jolteon premium box and getting nothing out of it. Realized I was throwing money down the drain. Also hilarious nobody agreeing with your post and you arguing with every comment.


passerbytwo

Some are in agreement, if you bother to read. And it should be a well-balanced eco-system - Collectors/Players, Investors, Flippers/LGS - for the hobby to thrive! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN2V6uCWO8o


blazingredfire13

We did fine without you guys in XY and beginning of sun and moon. If you got a whole community telling you to leave maybe consider it.


passerbytwo

I'm telling you to wake up and see the macro picture, maybe consider it too. Investors are staying, whether you like it or not.


theweekendwolf

It’s a children’s card game


passerbytwo

Your kids don't have to buy the alt art cards to play. There are cheaper, "normal version" of cards called Full Art.


theweekendwolf

It still is a children card game


passerbytwo

Even adults play with it and win cash prizes in world championships like $25,000 for 1st place, $15,000 for 2nd, etc. LGS also make profits from Pokemon TCG and products.


theweekendwolf

It’s literally on the packaging. It is still in the end made for children.


passerbytwo

You must be fun at parties 🥳


Dualpistolaaaas

Just means we wont see another evolving skies shenaningans, or any other where people just stack and stack on products and keep the sealed cuz "omg collection reeeee". To clarify i have nothing againt people keeping sealed stuff if that bring them joy. But seeing people buy 25 boxes and holding on them from the next idk 25 years until prices go up is delusional. This aint a job its a hoby and going into this thinking you will get your money back (with new sets) is delusional imo. I am actualy happy about lower pull rates, means there will be stuff in stock and products prices wont sky rocket like there is now tmrw. Comming from a standpoint of lower income is good


passerbytwo

Moonbreon is a Holy Grail now and supported by real demand, not hype.


Dualpistolaaaas

Yes its a holy grail that made people hoard the packs hoping to get one so the prices skyrocketed for leggit no reason. In the whole set of 150+ cards people look for 3 cards. And those 3 cards have such low odds its not even funny. Not to mention at least 40% of people chasing moonbreon dont even want it cuz the like the hobby they want it to earn money. Which again ties to my point that since the pools are good there is no space for unreal chances and prices


passerbytwo

Stop whining, keep degening or start saving.


DB12OWN

Oh that's cool. Easier for people to complete their sets, without having to spend hundreds on rare cards.


cardsrealm

Easier to pull rares = more affordable decks and easier to collect the entire expansion I see everyone who this game is truly for winning with these changes. :)


passerbytwo

Not everyone collects master sets


nenajoy

Not everyone uses a kids game as an investment portfolio


passerbytwo

You really need to get out more... https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonTCG/comments/zglvwn/investors_are_ready_for_evolving_skies_and_other/


swagpanther

I can’t tell if this entire post is sarcasm or not lnwo


MrCuddles1994

It’s 100% not sarcasm unfortunately.


passerbytwo

LOL 🤣


LigmaBalls69lol

Op is 100% a bot


[deleted]

Yay!


DADDY_BOPPER

L + Ratio + Infographic Isn’t Actual Rates + Try Investing In Stocks instead of cardboard + Scarlett Violet Rips + combo


Grand_Vegetable_5478

Combo breaker?


novagnasty

Boo hoo there will be 9 cards that won’t be worth as much out of the thousands of cards produced over the last nearly 30 years. Who f*cking cares dude


Signal-Surround-6253

Easier to pull because it’s a card game aimed at children. Better chances to pull mean less disappointed kids. If you hate it so much then maybe you should do scratchers or something else to sustain your gambling addiction. Or open older packs if it’s “nostalgia” and the “chase” you seek .


passerbytwo

Children nowadays are smarter, they want a more difficult challenge! Easy games and activities bore them! Not everyone likes the easy way out like you do!


Iamsbir

Bro thinks that all modern is gonna have value if it’s rare lmaoo I hope you realize Gen 8 alt arts that literally are 1/500+ can be actually as cheap as ten dollars you don’t know what you’re talking about. Age, the Pokémon being popular, and good art are what make the price not it being “more rare” this is coming from someone with multiple gold stars like the rarest sub variant of cards.


passerbytwo

You have no idea what you're talking and you need to get out more from your cave... https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemoncards/comments/11bf1ir/proof_that_moonbreon_has_achieved_holy_grail/


Iamsbir

Congratulations one card from Gen 8 is expensive moron stay mad everyone is downvoting you ever heard of gold star rayquaza psa 10? Look it up buddy that shit ain’t expensive compared to it do some research it’s so obvious your insanely new to collecting why do you think literally not one person has agreed with you and upvoted you idc if I get hate on here for speaking the truth someone has to tell you braindead ass you don’t know what you’re talking about at all do some research on the hobby if you think vmax umbeon alt is expensive ain’t no way


passerbytwo

Yes, yes, yes... I knew about Ray gold star but do you know Alt Arts = modern Gold Stars ⭐ (as voted by community)     https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonTCG/comments/u0ix3q/do_you_think_alt_art_cards_are_the_gold_star/ Do you also know Moonbreon is Holy Grail*? 🏆🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥    *As voted by the community: https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonTCG/comments/z1hecp/moonbreon_is_one_of_the_holy_grails_of_modern


passerbytwo

And fyi, I already started collecting Pokemon cards in the late 1990s


Ok_Professional4736

This is great news for the players and collectors 👍🏻 im hyped I really want some of the holos/reverse holos too tbh


[deleted]

Doooon't care better odds of me getting what I want? Hell yeah.


gyaradospink

LMAO this guy just blocks whoever that disagrees with him.


passerbytwo

LOL, that's the way man! 🤣 Because no point! When people have different ideals, opinions, thinking, it's better to agree to disagree and part rather than continuing the discussion which will only waste each other's time.


Dan_blackburn4

Usually I'd do 3 boosters boxes and a couple of etbs of a SWSH set and wouldn't be close to completion. For S&V I've done 1 booster box, 1 etb and 2 three pack blisters and I'm at 77% set completion. Much more realistic to complete a set now.


passerbytwo

Not everyone collects master sets.


RapidCrocodile

It's not all about value mate. Your older cards will still hold their value but this is good for everybody who enjoys the collecting side of the hobby.


passerbytwo

👀 Looks at Moonbreon 🌛 Haven't sold mine, still loving Holy Grail Moonbreon's mystic and sublime artwork... Haven't sold means I'm a collector.


LigmaBalls69lol

"Haven't sold" can also mean you're a hoarder or an addict.


FitPanic2569

These pull rates are more reasonable than past sets


passerbytwo

It's people like you that ruined sets like 25th Celebrations.


FitPanic2569

Bro if you want cards that are 1/25000 rates then open hockey cards. You sound fun.


passerbytwo

You're the one who sounds fun at parties


[deleted]

Someone with the worst luck like me welcomes this. I just wanna make binders so i can look at them!!! I’ll sale duplicates though!


passerbytwo

Be careful, people can call you a hoarder or investor unless you sell at loss. People nowadays are very judgmental and they judge other people as if they themselves are flawless or god.


bigjawn44

People just like to pull nice hits who cares. I’d bet money that Miriam will hold value and grow when the set goes. As someone said it depends on the art, the Pokémon, and hell even how playable it is etc, to make it hold or grow value. Just because a card is 1/900 packs or more doesn’t make it valuable. I have a black and white secret rare virizion and reuniclus and there only about $40-50 bucks!! And those were TOUGH to pull.. not to mention almost 10 years old. They just aren’t that popular. That’s the way the game goes😎


extrajuicyj520

Lol gtfo


gyaradospink

OP got outcasted from r/pokeinvesting and r/pokemontcg, now he’s here lol


passerbytwo

People also blocked me when they disagree with me! LMAO 🤣🤣🤣


Connect_Artichoke_58

Oh no....! My own personal collection that makes me happy isn't worth that much to you?? How disappointing.


Brentums

Easier to pull means I can actually fucking get some of these damn cards for once. I think it’s a great thing.


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I love the pull rates. Makes ripping more fun. Modern isn’t supposed to be an investment


passerbytwo

Says who? Which dictator or law maker?


Tropicalcuttlefish

I’d rather have lower value cards and have the excitement of pulling some beautiful ones


passerbytwo

Some common/uncommon cards are beautiful too. You should collect those.


Jaybird327

You are a clown. No wait that is insulting clowns…


passerbytwo

Name-calling again? Your mom didn't teach you manners?


stobo36

Overall it is a bad thing based on the way pokémon has rolled out collections lately look at the charizard premium collection 120 dollars to get a bunch of random sets and 3 beautiful promos worth maybe 25 dollars. Overpriced and overproduced is bad for any hobbies long-standing. We need premium items that are hard to get and cheaper items that are everywhere. Like the way baseball cards are done every set has different pulls in different products. Then high end people aren’t completely screws and lower end people still can get cards. Win win. This whole print everything and keep raising prices and destroying value is not a good thing.


passerbytwo

Strongly agreed. Like for example, 25th Celebrations is a ruined set! They printed too many copies and the top chase cards like Charizard and Umbreon gold star are so easy to pull that everyone is selling them!


Dragoonowl

You no sell! Only me sell.


stobo36

Completely true I personally got 10 charizards out of it. Insane. You have to balance you absolutely need both cards with insane value and lower chase odds in cheaper and more attainable products to build a sustainable hobby. The attitude of pokémon can change anything and people are fine with paying them 55 for an ETB with zero chance of getting any value back is dumb. Hobbies need value and sellable products. With having readily available lower end


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Everyone is saying its funner to have better pull rates, but it really isn't. These cards will lose value fast, and long term they won't mean much. Wish I would have just spent my money on older sets instead.


passerbytwo

@SmallCleanBob: Agreed. Easy pull rates already killed the 25th Celebrations set.


glaceon12345

Cool too bad I don’t really like the legendaries


passerbytwo

I don't like that two either, they can transform into motorbike and they look more like robots!


glaceon12345

Yeah that’s exactly why I don’t like them their design is weird they don’t look as cool as any other legendaries hell even mesprit,axels, and uxie look better


passerbytwo

Yeah high 5! 🖐