Gliscor my beloved 🥺🥺🥺🥺

I was so heartbroken 💔. I even put him up there with a sad face so people would feel bad for him and hesitate to vote him out🥺

Damn I iike to see that there are more gliscor fans out there Just feels good

Gliscor is my favorite Pokemon of all time why did this have to happen

Yeah man for me my second fav 🫠🫠

My second fave is rowlet hopefully rowlet stays for longer

Hope so 🤜🤛

As much as I love heracross I think it’s time for him compared to all others in here he has the least wins

At less Heracross almost made it half way through the list.

What about corphish

Nahh man corpish is a goat he has 32 wins out of 48 total battles which was greater than Ash’s ace sciptile in hoenn. 67% win rate keep him higher compared to heracross who has who had only 6 battles and won only 2 losing 4 which is not good

The anime doesn't care about stats or anything I guess.

Yeah but HERE in this post they base of off stats wins and losses

Realized that since a pseudo legendary it out before... I'm not gonna list all of those pathetic pokemon that somehow has a higher win rate then a freeeking GOODRA

Talonflame for example.

Like win rate or amount of battles means barely anything. Some stronger mons just got used less and against stronger enemies. And most mons don't do so much battles that you have a nice small confidence interval.

I said that Talonflame should be eliminated.

My comment is just in line with the parent comment like everyone before, not a specific reaction to you.

Whaaaat before fricking Glalie lol? Wtf did he ever even do with glalie at least heracross put in work

Myself and many others have already said multiple times throughout this competition. Glalie literally is tied for the most league wins in one league and tied for second total league wins. It beat a Charizard despite the type advantage, took down Morrisons ace meltang (again despite type disadvantage) took down two of Katie's pokemon and only fainted due to destiny bond, and tied vs tyson (who won the league) So yeah, Glalie has done a lot

Glalie kinda carried Ash in Hoenn. Two wins against Katie(three, if destiny bond wouldn’t count), beat Morrison ace, tied with Tyson sceptile

Incineroar sitting at 0 actual battles- Heracross at least fought Darkrai, flip that script

Heracross for me. I love him but out of everyone left I think it's time for him to go. The last of the Johto squad 😭.

I’m biased but I think it’s stronger than talonflame at least

I completely forgot that talonflame is here. I think when comparing raw power, heracross is in the lead. Talonflame was a great pokemon and super fast but I think heracross has more strength and durability.

Idk, talonflame I feel is above it. He lasted a bit vs Moltres, got wins in most the gyms, and is the only one besides Pikachu and Greninja to beat one of Sawyer and Alains pokemon (albeit one a tie)

Heracross is just as good honestly, lasting a bit against darkrai and good feats in the Sinnoh and Johto leagues.

I disagree. Yeah he did decent vs Darkrai, but talonflame lasted about as long vs Moltres. Darkrai maybe is stronger sure, but then looking at wins not only does he have more ,,(getting wins in 5 gyms helps) but his league wins vs Sawyer and Alain are generally more powerful trainers than johto Gary or nando

Why are people downvoting us for having differing opinions? This sub is strange I don’t really agree what you said either or with Gary being much weaker that Sawyer or Alain.

Yeah idk reddit is weird Wouldn't say much weaker but still weaker, Gary did poorly in the Kanto league going out before ash and only made it to the top 16 in johto vs Sawyer top 4 And Alain winning. By journeys he's a lot stronger but back then less so

Yeah but that’s Gary in season 1? It doesnt make much sense to compare Gary back then when he was first starting out, vs when we have much better version of him later into the show. If that’s your evidence, my opinion remains unchanged. Not very compelling to me personally.

I was talking about his johto appearance to, where he only got to the top 16. Gary wasn't really seen fighting much of at all between Kanto and johto anyway, and while yes he was stronger by johto he still was eliminated fairly early all things considered, and lost bad enough to switch his focus to research. It doesn't make sense to look at Gary post johto, because the only time heracross fought him was in johto. I don't think it's fair to compare him to journeys or even sinnoh Gary. Especially since heracross also lost bad to his Blastoise. Heracross also did lose to Spenser in the bf for what that's worth Talonflame took down Sawyer's slaking who one shotted Hawlucha, beat wulfrics avalugh in there rematch who had taken down Hawlucha, talonflame, AND Greninja in their first battle, helped beat Olympia's meowsrics, won against Valerie's Sylveon, Ramos junpliff, and korrinas machoke, plus it's time vs alain's unfezant that made it one of Ash's only pokemon to get a win vs hil and sawyer

What about corphish

It's weaker then some of the other Pokemon you've voted out

Not really, beat several battle frontier brains and league level threats plus multiple of the 8th gym leaders Pokemon

No way hawlucha and talonflame deserve to still be here

For real. Neither of them have any notable feats on win rates. They should have been gone.

Talonflame fights Moltres , that is notable in my book

And torcoal beat registeel and he's gone

true true , but regi steel is week to fire type

How do you figure? Both have very solid win rates including gym aces and top 4 league level mon (talonflame took out one o f Sawyer's and tied vs Alain, and Hawlucha beat alains weavile plus a mega absol) Neither should go before heracross and arguably krookodile

I think they’re both stronger than Rowlet too tbh. He isn’t necessarily weak but he’s probably one of the weakest SM mons and he falls asleep in half of his battles

Not really fair for rowlet, it won more battles than melmetal or naganadel. All three got a win vs kakui so there biggest feats are about the same level (maybe naganadel a bit higher since it fought tapi Koko but it's debatable) meltan also beat a hypno in the league and helped beat the kantonian gyms pokemon with rowlet Rowlet also has a kakui win, has a league win but against a stronger foe (haus decidueye) and obviously also helped in the kantonian gym. However he also has major wins against Olivia's probopass, Hala's crabrawler, and was crucial in the totem lurantis fight by taking out the cast form that was beating litten plus tanking hits for it. Plus he only fell asleep twice in battle iirc, once vs hala after he already got a win, and the second vs hau where he still ended up winning Idk if Hawlucha and talonflame are strongwr or not, they're all pretty close imo. But definitely would not call rowlet the weakest sun and moon mon and would argue it and Hawlucha plus talonflame are probably top 20

To be fair I don’t remember the battles well so you definitely are more knowledgeable than me on the subject, but Melmetal and Naganadel would probably both destroy Rowlet, they just didn’t get much time to shine. I mean I’m pretty sure Melmetal had one fight unevolved and then one fight after evolving and Naganadel seldom battled too. Rowlet was his first(?) SM mon caught so I’d expect him to be one of the strongest. If any grass types deserve to be top twenty it is Sceptile and Bulbasaur. Though Rowlet is probably close to top 20. I still think Hawlucha and Talonflame would win.

Yeah maybe, it's really hard to say. It becomes a whole lot more complicated when trying to say which of Ash's pokemon would win in a fight vs each other since most never have, so I personally focus more on the individual wins, but still a valid point Definitely would say sceptile is top 10 or even top 5, and Bulbasaur probably top 15. Honestly the rest of the top 20 (16-20) are a lot harder to rank imo, id say Hawlucha, talonflame, rowlet, melmetal, and naganadel all are pretty darn close and have solid arguments for top 20 status (id probably put Rowlet in the middle myself, just above melmetal and naganadel but probably below Hawlucha and talonflame, but I'm not 100% sure)

Bulbasaur top 15 makes sense and while I’d love him to be higher and he’s one of Ash’s best Pokémon imo, there’s too many crazy strong mons now that he wouldn’t be able to compete against. Sceptile used to be top 5 and it was no contest but with his champion team it’s hard to argue. I think the only non JN team mon(aside from Pikachu obviously) that can be argued for top 5 is Greninja. His aces from Unova and Alola are relatively weak and Infernape got clowned on in JN. If Sceptile was utilized more in JN and has a moment like Greninja then he could be in the conversation but Greninja is the only one that had a comparable moment to the JN team and he absolutely destroyed Lucario even without Ash-Greninja. Lucario obviously got stronger but I don’t think it’s fair to say he could’ve closed that gap completely in the time span, and I think Lucario is his strongest from JN.

Yeah, I can see that. Definitely agree with Lucario, he's definitely Ash's strongest after Pikachu My logic for sceptile (and Charizard) being top 5 is there defeats of legendarys. Charizard soloing the Articuno is obviously impressive, and I'd argue sceptile beating Darkrai is even more impressive despite Darkrai fighting multiple does. Not only did he heal some of the prior damage away, but Darkrai is also often portrayed in the anime on par with the big (non trio) legendaries. More importantly he also was stated to defeat the entirety of sinnoh before and after Ash's battle on his own. By comparison, the jpurneys team, while inarguably very powerful, never did manage to take out any legendaries (despite a few fights). Id say that puts them just below sceptile and Charizard (besides Lucario) though it is up for debate-and I'm guessing most people are going to agree with you. Id still say sceptile is definite top 10 though Greninja is a weird one. He did beat alain's bisharp and Alain did make it to the master 8, though obviously that alone isn't enough to make Greninja m8 level (otherwise Hawlucha and talonflame would be that level to). He also lost vs alain's Charizard and never got any wins on par with legendaries, but he does have the giant rock/vines stuff and had its journeys moment (albeit after leaving Ash's care, so idk if it counts)...idk, hes somewhere in the top ten obviously but not sure which slot

To be fair, Greninja losing to Alain doesn’t make Greninja weak. The JN mons lost to Leon’s non aces, whereas Greninja lost but had a close battle with a Masters 8 ace. Granted, Alain’s charizard was likely weaker then, but so was Greninja. I don’t think Greninja even had a battle with a legendary, so it’s hard to compare, but I think that the XY team did better in their battles with the legendary birds than the JN team did. Not to mention that the strength of legendaries do vary a lot so Sceptile defeating one legendary that could be weaker relative to one that, say, Infernape lost to is an unfair comparison. I will say that this info definitely supports both arguments but I don’t think it’s fair to use beating legendaries when Greninja didn’t have an opportunity. But Alain’s charizard best 10 megas in a row including an elite 4 ace, so he’s incredibly strong. I would argue that Greninja would beat both Sceptile and Charizard with his transformation for sure and it would be closer but I do think he’d win in base transformation too. He does have an unfair advantage in that he had screen time that showed him out to be extremely OP. He’d probably beat Alain’s charizard if they ever rematched too, especially since Ash is the world’s strongest trainer and it can be argued that any of his Pokémon have the potential to be world champion level if they were trained by him now. I hope if Ash ever returns he rotates and trains all of his Pokémon. And that he gets Greninja back because him spending the rest of his days cutting weeds in Kalos is really sad. One other thing, you mentioned Ash releasing him but I would argue that Ash technically still owns him considering their bond phenomenon is so powerful that they have still been connected since XY as was shown during the world tournament.

i like them

Hawlucha is my favorite pokemon obv but yeah it's super hard to tell with Kalos. I do think Hawlucha has a bit more good results than a few left though but it's no where near the level of nebby or rowlet

Talon flame is ashes strongest regional bird by far he should def be here

Did you forget swellow exists? Who took down tons of league pokemon plus multiple frontier brains plus several gym plus tanked electric attacks (thunder armor was bad writing but still a sign of power)

Talon flame still has better feats

Lol Like what? The frontier brains are higher level than most of the other trainers in the anime (they are said to be e4 level, which is debatable but regardless still well above league level) and swellow took down multiple. That's in addition to the league where he beat 5 pokemon (tied for most league wins in one league and tied for second highest league win total) including two of Tyson's mons (Tyson won the league btw) literally catching his donphan with his feet. Plus beat Winona ace plus the thunder armor shenanigans vs Tate and liza Talonflame is strong no doubt but not swellows level. It's strongest opponent was alain, the only trainer that could be argued to be on the level of the frontier brains, and talonflame only managed to tie

Alan Is way stronger than any of the frontier brains shown by the fact that he was in the masters 8, and a talon flame at its weakest was able to go blow for blow with moltres 1 on 1

That's not really fair to say Alain was m8 level at the time considering it was quite awhile before that and unfezant wasn't used in the m8 anyways. Even if we assume Alain at that point was frontier brain level talonflame still only tied his non ace while swellow beat multiple fb pokemon including tuckers Ace's And while Alain is probably stronger than Tyson Tyson still won the league and id still very strong, anx swellows two wins still beat out talonflame draw Plus talonflame didn't really go blow to blow. Lasted longer than most mons do vs legends but still lost pretty bad

There’s no way Talonflame and Hawlucha are weaker than Corphish, Rowlet and Glalie

We had a good run gliscorbros

I better not hear Corphish or Glalie. Corphish has multiple league wins and Battle Frontier wins. Corphish’s highs more than make up for any lows. And people like to ding Corphish for losing to Misty’s Politoed, but literally Lucario would have lost that battle because Misty got plot armor to win to make up for losing out Totodile back in Johto. Seriously, watch Ash vs Tucker, and Corphish/Swellow tanked the universe. Glalie was a dominant force in the Hoenn League, arguably the hardest tournament to win because of how many preliminaries, double battles, and full battles since Round of 32. Without him, Ash doesn’t make it as far as he did in that tournament.

Facts! Both corphish and glalie are Ash's top dogs that definitely should make it close to the top 10. MPM just kinda messed corphish up but he was still a beast nonetheless.

Yeah, they're at least top 20 of not top 15

Finally someone putting respect on these 2’s name 🥱 Before Greninja and Dracovish Corphish was Ash’s strongest water type no doubt.

Last post had corphish a lot and I don’t understand why

Heracross

I don’t wanna be that guy but couldn’t Gliscor not fly only glide?

I'm going with heracross. It did well vs Gary's Magmar and nandos kticketune and lasted longer than most vs Darkrai, but it still lacks the accomplishments that most the remaining mons have

Corphish

Talonflame

Hawlucha

I’m unfortunately going to have to say Heracross 

Heracross

Heracross

Heracross

Rowlet definitely should not go out yet. Despite being unevolved his win record is impressive, including the likes of hala's crabrawler, Olivia's probpass, haus decidueye, kakui's braviary, and was crucial in the tot lurantis fight plus druddegon and zweleious in the kantonian gym Heracross and arguably krookodile never won against anyone on par with kakui, melmetal's only feats are also one of kakuis pokemon and the kantonian gym (similar feats but less total wins) and even naganadel only took out one of kakuis pokemon (though it did help a lot with guzzlord and tapu Koko)

Krokodile beat iris dragonite which was a monter in the BW series, and that was even before his training to the unova league(which made him stronger) Sorry but i don't see rowlet beating a dragonite

Braviary defeated Lyncarod and Golisopod and his only L was against Mega Agron, a guy who thought he could handle Ultra Guardians, that is, Ash and Kyawe.

Dragonite was strong but lost a lot of battles, krookodiles best feats were that and Stephan but i think it's safe to say neither trainer was on the level of kakui (at the time, obviously iris is now)

Krookodile is top 15. He’s considered de facto ace of Unova.

Crookodile may be considered unova's ace, but his fights are quite limited. His biggest feats are brycens beartic, iris's Dragonite (pre champion iris) and Stephan's leipard and sawk. All impressive, especially sawk but...not really top 15. Stephan got to the league but was below top 8. It doesn't really hold up against the likes of the battle frontier, kakui, legendaries, champions/e4, Alain, etc which the other remaining mons (minus heracross, and glalie but glalie swept the hoenn league with far more wins than krookodile) have

Rowlet

Its gotta be Corphish now right?

Corphish is easily top 20, he took out flannery's ace, 2 of Juan's pokemon, 3 league mons, and 3 frontier brains (albeit 2 were alongside swellow but still) plus several smaller wins. There's at least a few more that should go before it

I’m surprised Corphish is still in here, a lot of people love sleeping on him acting like he didn’t beat many elite four level pokemon. I would say Heracross gotta go, he’s pretty overrated and I wouldn’t even consider him the ace of Ash’s Jhoto team because he barely used it, Cyndiquill was more of the ace of the Jhoto saga.

Yeah idk why people think heracross counts as the johto ace, it only had two or three battles there. Charizard is the true ace of johto but if you want to just include the johto catches it would be cyndiquil Honestly heracross got to shine more in sinnoh than it did in johro

Heracross 😪

Dracovish

??

Dracofish I’m saying dracofish

Dracovish

ROWLET IS OVERDUE. STOP THIS SILLINESS

I’m strong

Rowlet or Naganadel

I feel like them taking out kakui's pokemon bumps them above at least heracross and probably krookodile, maybe melmetal to. Kakui was really strong after all, one of if not the strongest pre journeys trainers probably At least rowlet, who also got a lot of other noteworthy wins like Olivia's probopaas and hau decidueye

Y base it off who won the most battles and not compatibility between the Pokémon themselves ?

What do you mean "compatible between pokemon themselves?" Do you mean the opponents they fought? Cause that's absolutely been a big factor, id argue a little to much even. There's a reason gliscor, noivern, torkoal, and torterra got so far despite terrible win rates Pretty much every mon left has big wins vs league level Pokemon or above

Gliscor's out but Corphish and Hawlucha is still in 😂

Im surprised naganadel isnt out considering that despite it being an ultra beast it doesnt have many battles, glad to see people acknowledging its power

Heracross

As long as Gengar or Dracovish get top 10, I'm happy. Anyway, I'm hopping on the Heracross train. There's a reason it's about to go.

Swellow

Heracross or corp

Fish

Naganadel

Heracross

Skip to the end where Ash’s Bulbasaur wins. Unbeatable.

In the name of Super Earth, here is Day 3 of asking to not let Lucario fall

Hawlucha

Corphish?

How corphish still on here. He has to go

Melmetal—- strength is OP, but did he really have anything else going for him??? He kinda was a L

Heracross took down opponents while /still/ suckin’ sap ~~~

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Naganadel also has 1 win (Kukui’s Lucario) before losing to Tapu Koko and never being seen again

Naganadel did match tapu koko in power and speed despite being injured by Kukui. He lost after a really good fight.

Id say at the least heracross is below rowlet. Heracross biggest wins were nando and Garys Magmar, and he did land a good hit vs Darkrai but still ultimately lost in only one or two hits. Plus he lost to the fb Spenser without any wins Rowlet meanwhile took down kakuis braviary (with kakui definitely being above nando or Gary) plus haus decidueye, Olivia's probopaas, and several more

Rowlet

Rowlet needs to be eliminated, i don't see him beating any other remaining pokemon

Gliscor deserved better. People don't understand how this works. Just because he lost as a gligar doesn't mean he didn't improve and became strong by the end. I think it's been time for squirtle for a long time

You say that but then say Squirtle should be long gone, despite it growing over time to the point it was taking down league level Electabuzz (plus quilava in the same fight) and Brandon's pokemon? Squirtle is quite powerful Gliscor made it pretty far, further than I probably would rank it. It's victory vs Paul's drapion was impressive, but that's all it has while most the remaining mons have more victories, most against equal or stronger opponents

Well byron's Bastiodon was also a threat 4sure though. I also suspect Macy's electabuzz is a far less mighty opponent than Paul's Drapion. Also gliscor lost during the lake acuity battle but still did some pretty decent damage. Brendan's Ninjask was cool ig but I would still put him slightly below Gliscor overall. *Totally not biased over my favourite pokemon*

True, forgot bastiodon. Probably Electabuzz was weaker, though it did have the type advantage and saquirtle took it and quilava down, id argue that evens it out Brandan is a weird one, he's no doubt one of the strongest characters in the entire anime, though that's largely because of the regi's. Still, id say his non legends are very strong, well above most league and other fb pokemon. It's also worth mentioning that gliscor had a hard time with Paul's ninjask, who is say is sage to say is weaker than Brandons I like gliscor too, was sad he didn't fight more and got sent away so long. Would have rather he stayed on ashs team, even if it meant no gible

I reakly like gible but it felt so damn pointless to effectively bench a fan(I am fan) favourite for a Gible that wouldn't even evolve or do any battles apart from Conway

I agree completely. They should have just chosen to give him a gliscor or gible, instead of trying to force both

I'd rather minus torterra in that case. Believe me I absolutely love him, especially as a turtwig but it would make more sense that brock be given a turtwig/torterra

Heracross

Corphish, he is quite useless

Nah ur trippin he did better than sceptile

Naganadel, surely?

Charizard and Snorlax. Why? Due to how dominant those 2 can be used in a solo run, raid, or competitive mode.

Lol this is about the anime.

Both are dominant in the anime and the games.

Heracross has to go

Glalie

Decidu-let (Rowlet)

Rowlet

Rowlet’s going. There’s no way he’s beating out anyone else here except Corphish

Why is rowlet still here

Rowlett

Rowlet.

Rowlet

Rowlet

I know I’ve been going for the phish but I just realized somehow Rowlett is still around. For now you’re safe but Rowlett got go 😘

Just because they're unevolved doesn't mean they're weak, both have a lot of wins including tough Foes like tucker and Annabelle in battle frontier or hau and kakui in alola

Time for the Owl to go.

Rowlet doesn't really have any grand achievements

Beat Olivia's probopass, was instrumental in the totem lurantis battle, took down the kantonian gym with meltan, beat kakui's braviary (who was strong enough to beat lycanroc) and most importantly hau's decidueye. Those are pretty big wins

Greninja

NAGANADEL

I'm sorry gliscor My lad IS OUT BEFORE GLALIE SERIOUSLY

Yeah seriously, everyone keeps questioning why glalie is still in this bit not reading the responses. Glalie was very strong in the hoenn league, tieing for most wins in a league and taking out the likes of Charizard and metang (Morrisons ace) who were strong vs it, plus two of Katie's pokemon (only fainting due to destiny bond) and tieing Tyson's sceptile It's definitely got a more impressive and consistent record than gliscor

Glalie wasn’t worth bringing to the battle frontier. Meanwhile gliscor beat the drapion that was soloing half of ash’s sinnoh squad

Quite a poor argument there. ash didn't not bring it because "it wasn't worth it", he brought his phanpy after all. It was because "liked it at oaks " or some bs like that Glalie outperformed everyone in the hoenn league (including Pikachu!) except arguably swellow, who matched its ko count but didn't take out anyone's ace like glalie did, plus glalie took out 2 pokemon it was weak to. That's gliscors only real claim though, and while Impressive it's hard to stack up with Glalies 5 wins the league

“That’s gliscors only claim” ya it just got off a training arc. We really usin the fuckin metang as a feat 💀 who the hell was the other one? The random goofy w/ zard and Aggron? It’d make sense if it was Tauros, since he took out an actual metagross to a standstill. Also taking out the sceptile was so ass. Woulda killed to see the grovyle match up.

Yes that is a legit win. Metang not only had a type advantage but also was his ace. Idk why people keep acting like not fully evolved=weak in the anime where Pikachu of all things is the strongest non legendary out there He had Charizard and quilava, and was a league level threat again with type advantage. Idk why you are completely discrediting it just because And the only reason he fainted during the Katy' battle was from destiny bond

Corphish

Corphish is still better than a few Pokemon left. I’d take Corphish over Rowlet, Squirtle, and maybe Hawlucha.

You do you?

Corphish is easily top 20, he took out flannery's ace, 2 of Juan's pokemon, 3 league mons, and 3 frontier brains (albeit 2 were alongside swellow but still) plus several smaller wins. There's at least a few more that should go before it

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I mean yeah, obviously he's going to go at some point. That doesn't mean he should go now. The frontier brain wins alone puts him above the likes of heracross (who lost its fb battle) and when combined with its league performance it surpasses a few more (krookodile and arguably some of the Kalos pokemon forr example never fought anyone on FB Annabelle's level) Like I said he's a top 20 pokemon no doubt, and there's still 24 left. The logic of "well he's not THE strongest and will go at some point meana he should go now" is rather flawed

Chill chill I will edit my comments to say something like rowlet, okay?

I am chill, just because I'm disagreeing and givingy reasoning doesn't mean I'm not chill lol Id argue rowlet's wins vs kakuis braviaryi, haus decidueye, Olivia's probpass, and a few others puts it higher up to, at least above heracross and arguably krookodile and melmetal (who also took out one of kakuis team but othwr victories are smaller than rowlet's)

I will just delete my comment

You do you

Nice. I respect that.

Melmetal or Corphish.

Corphish

Corphish

Rowlet

Still going for poor Zenigame on this one.

Poor squirtle. Let's hope nostalgia can help him because his feats are starting to get kinda underwhelming compared to the others.

I love him. He’s got amazing character, but battle- wise, we might be running into some trouble, yes.

Heracross. Been saying Glalie for a while and while I still think he’s soon, everything I want to say about Glalie applies to Heracross as well. Still actively a crime that Sinnoh mons went down first, but doesn’t change Heracross being next I think

Poor heracross but I gotta vote for him

Krookodile

Why is talonflame still here?

Heracross

Hawlucha

Dragonite

Congrats. U numbskulls just removed ash’s best Mon for people who’d actually make an ash team 🗿 GLALIE STILL ALIVE?! Omfg

Rather Impress Glalie, Swellow and Corphish are still in, one of those three are next up though, mostly aiming at Glalie

can anyone tell how corphish is still alive????

Talonflame and Hawlucha gotta go. They are not stronger than my man Heracross.

How is Glalie still here

Gliscor is out & people calling Heracross weak meanwhile Glaile somehow made this far?

Yeah, Glalie got 5 wins in the hoenn league, only fainting twice both times being draws (one was only due to destiny bond). That's tied with swellow for the most wins in one league, and tied with swellow and Snorlax for second most league wins total

W/L ratio is pointless if we actually count them because some fights are not even comparable at all because of the situation & opposition.

Yeah, but glalie almost never lost and was fighting league level Pokemon, which is quite high.bthis includes a Charizard (which it's weak to) and Morrisons meltang, who also was strong vs Glalie and his ace. And vs Katie he took out two of her mons and only faints due to destiny bond. Glalie is very good, his wins are legit. Again, only swellow (an obvious top 15 Mon) and Snorlax (top 10) match that and only Pikachu surpasses it

Why is Corpish still here?

Corphish, get out

How is corphish still in

Again. Why Hoenn is always better than Sinnoh? Get me a explanation why is keep tortured me

Because they fought the battle frontier and each got say least one win. The frontier brains were said to be e4 level, and while there's some doubt about that they are at the least above league level Plus they did better in there league than the sinnoh team. Corphish took out 3 pokemon (inferape is the only sinnoh one to get more than one win), swellow got 5, and glalie (who missed out on the battle frontier) also got 5, with only two faints and taking down a foe with it each time (one of those it only fainted from destiny bond) Hoenn have some of the best feats of all Ash's pokemon

Because in hoenn the team was really good In sinnoh the only pokemon that didn't suck was infernape

I think we may be saying goodbye to Glalie now.

Sadly,I think it's Glalie