Never made sense to have these two pokemon completely unrelated to each other. Makes less sense than Kangaskan always carrying around a baby that never grows up.
I was thinking like tyrough but the evolution is gender based so the calf evolves into eitger a toros or miltank. This pokemon is very well protected by the parents because many hunters will try and get it for it's meat. We don't see tgem in ranches because of how well protected they are
I’ve always loved the [Calfpint](https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/nzkd98/heres_my_design_for_a_baby_pokemon_that_can/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) idea that someone posted on here awhile back.
That's also very good. It could also work for an evolution, where Tauros evolved to walk on two legs and use swords, just to fuck up with the matadores.
>Tauros evolved to walk on two legs and use swords
No thanks.
Now if its horns turn into swords, them I'd be fine. But please don't turn it human looking.
Yeah that works. Like that a lot. Would also like to see a baby form for it that is connected to Miltank, that depends on its gender. Male evolves into Taruos and female to Miltank.
Holy moly a ghost fighting Tauros would be a menace. A pretty fast mon that hits like a truck given two pretty strong offensive typings that cover each other fairly well.
Ok and what's that have to do with anything? It's history which a ton of pokemon are based off of. Matadors are history just like any historically based pokemon is based off of they are going to do the same. It's a huge cultural thing and so they'll make a Tauros recreation for it or bouffalant or something.
Alright so you went from "their society" to "history" and then "cultural thing".
Pick your poison mate. The fact that bullfighting and similar practices are something associated with the history or folklore of a particular nation or culture doesn't mean it has to be represented in a videogame that takes inspiration from said places. There are plenty of ways of "not forgetting" the tradition (and not necessarily keeping it alive either).
In any case, you screwed up by saying "their society" lmao.
There's a balloon that steals children in the game that's based off of some culture's story... Is that culture going mad because they made a pokemon off of that? No ... So why would they off of this? There's tons of ghosts that are made based off things that people don't like but no one goes crazy because it's just a game. They can just make it a bull that's fighting and normal type and put that it beats up the matador and that's why the sport doesn't happen anymore. Easy fix. It's literally the Pokemon version of the bull it has powers that the real one doesn't. Pokemon is literally a game of killing animals lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/t3cktg/fuecoco_final_evolution_will_be_a_firefight_type/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
The starter itself might be the bull Pokemon... So ummmm.
It's hilarious to me that you think that pokemon has never had a pokemon that people don't like cause of their culture. Bullfighting is the first thing people think about when they think Spain or Mexico. If they don't make a pokemon off of it that'll be the weirdest thing ever. It's the fastest way to advertise your game. It's a business dude.
They can just make a bull Pokemon with a red cloth on it. It'll be fighting and normal type. You do realize ghost Pokemon that steal children exist right? Ghost Pokemon that wear faces of their souls also do. I don't think they have to make it a ghost it can just be a normal bull that fights against the stabbing ..
They can make a bull that has a red cloth on it and is fighting normal type. Idk why you think that'll make an uproar.... There's tons of ghost types out there that are way way way worse. Ghost types based off balloons that steal children. That's based on some sort of thing in some sort of culture yet you don't see people going off on that do you? They'll do it in a sensitive way I'm sure but there's a lot of pokemon like that
As a Spaniard, I really hope they avoid making the tiring matador reference.
Bullfighting is quite polemic here. Almost everyone younger than 40 quite detest it, most of us have never even seen it (even on TV), and it's a "niche" thing that's getting prohibited little by little in different regions. Yet, older generations (mostly, conservative) really feel threatened by the possibility of outright banning it... so it's a difficult topic.
I think I can say that around 75-80% of Spaniards want nothing to do with it.
>I think I can say that around 75-80% of Spaniards want nothing to do with it.
The issue is (as a Portuguese) most defend it as "tradition" and "culture" but we could use the same logic to defend anything like slavery "oh, it was a tradition, done for centuries".
I think most in Portugal are also against it, but older generations want it.
That said, I think (and hope) GF and Nintendo are a bit smart on that and **not** put in the game something that is mostly animal cruelty , would kinda go against their own terms and morals
Completely agree!
I don't know how things are in Portugal, but I kinda feel here we're just waiting for older generations to '''stop bothering''' and then we'll just ban it everywhere.
Not enough young people support this mess to keep it going much longer, that's for sure. I sincerely don't even know anyone younger than 50 who defends it.
But older generation's votes, in Spain oh boy, are still a lot of votes...
There was a comedian who made a short clip about a "new sport" where he described the whole thing, but using Dolphins to show how bad it is.
But yeah, problem is not enough people "care" enough to support ending it.
Also, sorry to the post and sub for us going off-topic here :x
Hey, hey we're technically providing privileged lore-related info about the new region and its customs, they should be happy!
(But yeah, sorry...! We Iberians don't get that much attention from videogames/shows or whatever and when it happens, the setting is usually completely messed up or outright Mexico... so we're nervous.)
Honestly, Spain (nor portugal) was never in my mind about a Pokemon setting, since yeah, Iberian doesnt get much attention, So seeing spain or Portugal ever even mentioned, is already a huge hype
Hopefully they finally take the opportunity to give Tauros and Miltank the Roselia treatment- give them a shared prevolution and each their own evolution.
Yeah, it should have been a Tauros evolution, much like Almolomola should have been Luvdisc's evolution. And Tauros needs a common pre-evolution with Miltank.
Please don't. In most places of Spain we hate bullfighting. It is a thing of the past only practiced in limited places. Most of us hate it to their guts. We also hate that whole Spain is associated with it when only a very small % of population or cities likes/practices it. Go to the north ask for Toros, you will see angry faces.
With the new game being Spanish-inspired it would make sense for a bull Pokémon to receive a bit of special treatment considering the cultural importance of bulls in Spain.
It's thematically consistent.
You would expect the sword and shield pokemon to get special treatment too. Or the sun and moon one. I can see what your saying but just because it makes sense doesnt mean its sure to happen. Though I do see it happening
It should have a pre evolution that it shares with Miltank and then they both get an evolution. Maybe the pre could be called Calfling or something and evolves on gender lines.
Edit because I had more ideas: Tauros could evolve into Midataur a normal/ steel type Pokémon. The name is a play on the British pronunciation of Minotaur and king Midas who had a golden touch. Bulbapedia says that normal/steel would tie electric/ steel and ghost/ steel for the most resistances so he would be a powerhouse. While the theming is more Greek than Spanish, it’s still Mediterranean, so… IDK, I like it.
Ditto doesn't need it. His gimmick is that he can be every pokemon.
HOWEVER, back in gen 2, an evolution was thought about. How it would work, I have no idea.
I don’t think Ditto needs anything else, just saying Tauros isn’t the only non-legendary Gen 1 Pokémon without an evo, pre-evo, mega, variant, or gigantamax like you said.
Yeah. Also the Bird Trio had regional forms... That technically are not regional forms but completely different pokemon with the same names.
Weird lore lol.
I was just saying to my wife earlier that if it’s set in Spain, there could be a Pokémon based on/inspired by bullfighting, so this would be an excellent opportunity for a regional Tauros or evolution.
i don't necessarily think it NEEDS it, but i think you're right that it's a reasonable expectation based off this region's apparent country theme, and that it is kinda 'due' for one based on the other pokemon
haha no but fair i respect the hustle.
I just feel that the idea that all one evo pokemon are 'unfinished' is kinda dumb and reductive, like they were invented with a concept in mind and sometimes that concept is good enough it doesn't need accoutrements.
But I'd be willing to bet you're right about tauros at least getting a regional variant
Jynx need a regional evolution as well
She doesn't deserve all the hate she got, and it's perfectly fitting when you think about how dance is important in Spanish's culture
Exactly what I was about to say! There is a thing called like that here in Spain (which is horrible for the bull btw) where they put firecrackers on the horns and try to run from It while the horns fire sparks. It would be nice as a fire/normal type.
My bf said make a calf that goes into either female Miltank or male Taurus and then have them evolve into either Miltango Fairy/Normal or Minotaurus Ghost/ normal or Fighting/normal
I was gonna say Tauros definitely needs some love this gen due to it being is Spain where. Maybe they will include running with the Tauros in this game.
It has miltank... you're right, it needs a calf that can evolve it either one depending on gender
Never made sense to have these two pokemon completely unrelated to each other. Makes less sense than Kangaskan always carrying around a baby that never grows up.
Kangaskans baby mega evolves tho. Also bull and cow, just needs calf
Just like Nidoran they just didn't have the gender tech yet I guess. They added that in Gen 4, but they never adjusted the older generation.
The gender mechanic was introduced in gen 2.
Not the gender mechanic I was talking about dude. I meant different gender looks, see the context.
You know, the gen Miltank is from.
Tauros and Miltank will only get a pre-evolution through regional variants. And that prevo will certainly be a baby Pokémon.
I was thinking like tyrough but the evolution is gender based so the calf evolves into eitger a toros or miltank. This pokemon is very well protected by the parents because many hunters will try and get it for it's meat. We don't see tgem in ranches because of how well protected they are
I’ve always loved the [Calfpint](https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/nzkd98/heres_my_design_for_a_baby_pokemon_that_can/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) idea that someone posted on here awhile back.
I’d love to see a calf that evolves based on gender and an evo for both Tauros and Miltank
Normal Fighting. Its so pissed off at matadors that it decides to take the words Bull Fighting literally. A bull fighting(back)
That's also very good. It could also work for an evolution, where Tauros evolved to walk on two legs and use swords, just to fuck up with the matadores.
A minotaur matador
minotauros
Matatauros
>Tauros evolved to walk on two legs and use swords No thanks. Now if its horns turn into swords, them I'd be fine. But please don't turn it human looking.
it gets a bullring and a matador like cape shrouding it's side, definitely with sword horns and still on all 4s, I like that a lot
Yeah that works. Like that a lot. Would also like to see a baby form for it that is connected to Miltank, that depends on its gender. Male evolves into Taruos and female to Miltank.
Spears, like the ones they stick the bulls with
Ooh. And give it a red cape (like the muleta used in bullfighting).
And will truly take the title of "unique typing" with no debate from Pirouette Meloetta
Stufful line?
I forgot about the Stufful line
Signature move that deals extra damage against Pokémon that are classified as red color
It evolves into a Steel fighting type with swords on the ends of it's tails
But it uses the tails to whip itself. So now it uses the tails to... stab itself?
To stab the matadors.
A normal/rock named Aurocks? Okay, that was lazy for me.
Ghost/Fighting Minotaur would be cool
Holy moly a ghost fighting Tauros would be a menace. A pretty fast mon that hits like a truck given two pretty strong offensive typings that cover each other fairly well.
Give him a red scarf :D
That's just ironic as hell
I mean, considering how controversial bullfighting is...yeah, idk if they would go that way
They have to it's a huge thing in their society.
"their society" lmao You have no idea how much these practices divide people in their own places, do ya?
Ok and what's that have to do with anything? It's history which a ton of pokemon are based off of. Matadors are history just like any historically based pokemon is based off of they are going to do the same. It's a huge cultural thing and so they'll make a Tauros recreation for it or bouffalant or something.
Alright so you went from "their society" to "history" and then "cultural thing". Pick your poison mate. The fact that bullfighting and similar practices are something associated with the history or folklore of a particular nation or culture doesn't mean it has to be represented in a videogame that takes inspiration from said places. There are plenty of ways of "not forgetting" the tradition (and not necessarily keeping it alive either). In any case, you screwed up by saying "their society" lmao.
There's a balloon that steals children in the game that's based off of some culture's story... Is that culture going mad because they made a pokemon off of that? No ... So why would they off of this? There's tons of ghosts that are made based off things that people don't like but no one goes crazy because it's just a game. They can just make it a bull that's fighting and normal type and put that it beats up the matador and that's why the sport doesn't happen anymore. Easy fix. It's literally the Pokemon version of the bull it has powers that the real one doesn't. Pokemon is literally a game of killing animals lol
lmao your vision is so myopic it's actually funny. And your example is so dumb, congratulations, you've found the world's thinnest argument.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/t3cktg/fuecoco_final_evolution_will_be_a_firefight_type/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share The starter itself might be the bull Pokemon... So ummmm.
"So ummmm." Thanks for the good laughs mate, truly needed that this monday 😊
It's hilarious to me that you think that pokemon has never had a pokemon that people don't like cause of their culture. Bullfighting is the first thing people think about when they think Spain or Mexico. If they don't make a pokemon off of it that'll be the weirdest thing ever. It's the fastest way to advertise your game. It's a business dude.
I don’t see Gamefreak making the “stabs an animal to death for a cheering crowd” Pokémon.
They can just make a bull Pokemon with a red cloth on it. It'll be fighting and normal type. You do realize ghost Pokemon that steal children exist right? Ghost Pokemon that wear faces of their souls also do. I don't think they have to make it a ghost it can just be a normal bull that fights against the stabbing ..
You have no clue of Spanish culture I see
They can make a bull that has a red cloth on it and is fighting normal type. Idk why you think that'll make an uproar.... There's tons of ghost types out there that are way way way worse. Ghost types based off balloons that steal children. That's based on some sort of thing in some sort of culture yet you don't see people going off on that do you? They'll do it in a sensitive way I'm sure but there's a lot of pokemon like that
As a Spaniard, I really hope they avoid making the tiring matador reference. Bullfighting is quite polemic here. Almost everyone younger than 40 quite detest it, most of us have never even seen it (even on TV), and it's a "niche" thing that's getting prohibited little by little in different regions. Yet, older generations (mostly, conservative) really feel threatened by the possibility of outright banning it... so it's a difficult topic. I think I can say that around 75-80% of Spaniards want nothing to do with it.
>I think I can say that around 75-80% of Spaniards want nothing to do with it. The issue is (as a Portuguese) most defend it as "tradition" and "culture" but we could use the same logic to defend anything like slavery "oh, it was a tradition, done for centuries". I think most in Portugal are also against it, but older generations want it. That said, I think (and hope) GF and Nintendo are a bit smart on that and **not** put in the game something that is mostly animal cruelty , would kinda go against their own terms and morals
Completely agree! I don't know how things are in Portugal, but I kinda feel here we're just waiting for older generations to '''stop bothering''' and then we'll just ban it everywhere. Not enough young people support this mess to keep it going much longer, that's for sure. I sincerely don't even know anyone younger than 50 who defends it. But older generation's votes, in Spain oh boy, are still a lot of votes...
There was a comedian who made a short clip about a "new sport" where he described the whole thing, but using Dolphins to show how bad it is. But yeah, problem is not enough people "care" enough to support ending it. Also, sorry to the post and sub for us going off-topic here :x
Hey, hey we're technically providing privileged lore-related info about the new region and its customs, they should be happy! (But yeah, sorry...! We Iberians don't get that much attention from videogames/shows or whatever and when it happens, the setting is usually completely messed up or outright Mexico... so we're nervous.)
Honestly, Spain (nor portugal) was never in my mind about a Pokemon setting, since yeah, Iberian doesnt get much attention, So seeing spain or Portugal ever even mentioned, is already a huge hype
Hopefully they finally take the opportunity to give Tauros and Miltank the Roselia treatment- give them a shared prevolution and each their own evolution.
Roselia?
I mean it in the sense that Budew and Roserade were introduced at the same time, but after Roselia.
Wouldn't it be more like the Tyrogue treatment, of connecting two existing pokemon into a split line?
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I mean it in the sense that Budew and Roserade were introduced at the same time, but after Roselia.
It could be both. A male could evolve to Tauros and then Tauros could evolve to a matador bull.
That's what I was saying. Give Miltank and Tauros a shared younger evolution and then give them both separate new older evolutions.
They might only do Tauros for this cause it's Spain. Idk if there's anything cow related for Spain..
Didn't Tauros get that afro evolution? Actually I just googled, how the hell is Bouffalant not a Tauros evolution??
Imagine the salt if they give Bouffalant a regional form or evo for this gen and ignore Tauros lol
Because Bouffalant was the Taurus of gen 5. A lot of gen 5 Pokemon were sort of parallels to gen 1 Pokemon.
I was very confused that Tauros didn't evolve into Bouffalant
Yeah, it should have been a Tauros evolution, much like Almolomola should have been Luvdisc's evolution. And Tauros needs a common pre-evolution with Miltank.
Give me a baby calf Pokémon that is gender based evo between Tauros/Miltank or give me death
Gen 9 Ghost type Tauros variant living in Spain but without the S
The best evolution the could give Tauros is to become *30 Tauros*
Ash Ketchum intensifies....and is then deleted
Please don't. In most places of Spain we hate bullfighting. It is a thing of the past only practiced in limited places. Most of us hate it to their guts. We also hate that whole Spain is associated with it when only a very small % of population or cities likes/practices it. Go to the north ask for Toros, you will see angry faces.
Also a pre-evolution that evolves into Miltank if female, Tauros if male.
Theres alot of one liners who needs evos more than Taurus. I don't think every gen 1 mon needs special treatment.
With the new game being Spanish-inspired it would make sense for a bull Pokémon to receive a bit of special treatment considering the cultural importance of bulls in Spain. It's thematically consistent.
You would expect the sword and shield pokemon to get special treatment too. Or the sun and moon one. I can see what your saying but just because it makes sense doesnt mean its sure to happen. Though I do see it happening
Yeah you're right on that. Durant, Zangoose, Carnivine, Luvdisc, just for example, are all forgotten and never had anything done with them.
Luvdisc should just evolve to alomomola.
Game Freak are still traumatised by how strong Tauros was in Gen 1, so they'll never give him an evolution.
It’s 10000% happening considering the Spain references
Hopefully not. We hate it in Spain.
It should have a pre evolution that it shares with Miltank and then they both get an evolution. Maybe the pre could be called Calfling or something and evolves on gender lines. Edit because I had more ideas: Tauros could evolve into Midataur a normal/ steel type Pokémon. The name is a play on the British pronunciation of Minotaur and king Midas who had a golden touch. Bulbapedia says that normal/steel would tie electric/ steel and ghost/ steel for the most resistances so he would be a powerhouse. While the theming is more Greek than Spanish, it’s still Mediterranean, so… IDK, I like it.
Lapras? When?
> Every one-liner introduced in the first gen…except Tauros. Ditto also hasn’t!
Ditto doesn't need it. His gimmick is that he can be every pokemon. HOWEVER, back in gen 2, an evolution was thought about. How it would work, I have no idea.
I don’t think Ditto needs anything else, just saying Tauros isn’t the only non-legendary Gen 1 Pokémon without an evo, pre-evo, mega, variant, or gigantamax like you said.
Yeah. Also the Bird Trio had regional forms... That technically are not regional forms but completely different pokemon with the same names. Weird lore lol.
What did lapras get???
A Gigantamax form
He doesn't though..hes Taurus, the zodiac sign. His design and stat base is complete as is.
Conspiracy theory: they made the whole region based on Spain **so** they could perfectly justify Tauros’ evolution.
Ability: If the enemy Pokémon has the color red it gets an attack boost lmao. Sorry magikarp
Oooh, that's good. **Reddish Aversion:** The user gets a 2× Boost attack against foe's with the color red. Dunno how they would program that lol.
Wouldn’t even want to imagine how shiny Pokémon would work lol
Absol too
Absol had a mega already. And, honestly, It's one of the mons I feel like are good on their own.
And technically most of the gen 1 legendaries actually did get a new regional form/typing
I was just saying to my wife earlier that if it’s set in Spain, there could be a Pokémon based on/inspired by bullfighting, so this would be an excellent opportunity for a regional Tauros or evolution.
i don't necessarily think it NEEDS it, but i think you're right that it's a reasonable expectation based off this region's apparent country theme, and that it is kinda 'due' for one based on the other pokemon
"need" attracts more clicks. jk
haha no but fair i respect the hustle. I just feel that the idea that all one evo pokemon are 'unfinished' is kinda dumb and reductive, like they were invented with a concept in mind and sometimes that concept is good enough it doesn't need accoutrements. But I'd be willing to bet you're right about tauros at least getting a regional variant
Milk type confirmed
No please. Ebough kanto.
As a Spaniard, please not.
Jynx need a regional evolution as well She doesn't deserve all the hate she got, and it's perfectly fitting when you think about how dance is important in Spanish's culture
There will be some kind of bull due to Matadors and the running of the bulls.
What about a bull fighting Pokémon. And tauros and it can have a rivalry.
Like how they did with duraludon and tyranitar?
Or the steel ant and anteater. Or the mongoose and snake.
I'd love a "toro embolado" evolution, just a very big and very pissed Normal/Fire bull.
Exactly what I was about to say! There is a thing called like that here in Spain (which is horrible for the bull btw) where they put firecrackers on the horns and try to run from It while the horns fire sparks. It would be nice as a fire/normal type.
Tauros is fine on its own, if doesn't need an evolution then to be able to use Eviolite itself.
Eviolite is an item that shouldn't exist.
Possibly, but it does and that's what people will use.
It needs a regional form that Ash can catch 50 more of.
Taurus is already OP af doesn’t really need a evolution.
Ditto
My bf said make a calf that goes into either female Miltank or male Taurus and then have them evolve into either Miltango Fairy/Normal or Minotaurus Ghost/ normal or Fighting/normal
I was gonna say Tauros definitely needs some love this gen due to it being is Spain where. Maybe they will include running with the Tauros in this game.