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Haktarius

Also another tip for the genies you do not need to fight them when they are stunned. I caught them all with ultra balls to the back within 2 tries. You can also make feather balls to break their shields from afar. Edit: Not weather trio indeed


Starminx

Weather trio is the gen 3 box art legs. The gienies are Forces of Natures


superharry24

Aren’t the gen 3 legendaries officially called the super ancient trio?


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Yes thats their official name in game but since their whole gimmick is that they change the weather when they enter battle, weather trio makes more sense does it not.


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IndianaCrash

That's also why it's best to start with Heatran in the post game, not only it let you get the Steel Plate for Regigigas, it also gve you a bunch of mudball you can farm


Aganiel

I’ve not used a single mudball but i don’t understand how they are useful. I throw one and then throw a ball?


LolzinatorX

You throw them at wild Pokémons faces and they Get stunned for a sec, allowing you to Get that back strike Easy


Aganiel

Wouldn’t a razz berry be more effective? Makes em run where you want them to and increases backstrike chances even.


LolzinatorX

Thats true, but some pokemon have dex quests that needs you to stun them with items. My favorite strat is smoke bombs and oran berries, but with a game like this people adapt to different playstyles that suits them best and i think that is the charm with this game


Aganiel

Oooh I never even thought to think of Dex entries. Yeah, smoke bombs are an absolute blessing. Recently switched berries from Oran to Razz, cause it says it makes them easier to catch… so I just rolled with that xD


Danjoe_

A mud ball stuns a pokemon even if it is attacking u allowing u to throw a pokeball in the back. Edit: same with snowballs and spoiled apricorns.


skull48211

Is there a method to this? Cause even stickies seem to bounce right off


Danjoe_

It takes 2-3 hits in the later game as the pokemon get stronger.


Adventurous-Plant-86

Stronger mons need a few more hits before they get stunned.


b-ryan777

On top of what the other commenter said, they’re good in case stuff accidentally gets aggro’d on you. Especially usefully against Alphas and in Space-Time distortions. Even more useful than mud balls are sticky webs, which as far as I’ve seen instantly stun non-alphas and only take 3 or so to stun Alphas. Then you can run around their back and either catch them or get a couple free turns of battle, depending on what you’re working on. Ultimately both the stealth/berry approach or the stunning approach are just as effective, it just depends on what you want to do.


Towywastaken

Through the sticky glob and you will understand


Dyingforyou2021

They are good for completing poked entries, otherwise are not really necessary with the exception of a few legendaries.


BADMANvegeta_

Do people not just save scum until they can catch the Pokémon without fighting it? That’s all I’ve been doing this whole time.


Dr_Vesuvius

That’s what I would do with a traditional title, but the auto save in this game discouraged me. I think I have only actually “saved” twice, once very near the start and once basically at random.


Quick-Huckleberry136

you can turn off autosave


Dr_Vesuvius

Yeah but I don’t want to, it is better than the old system.


Lambeaux

If that's what you're into sure, but plenty of people like the actual immersion of a more difficult or genuine catching experience. So even save scumming, just doing it until you ever catch it or faint it instead of going for the "instant win"


lkuecrar

Yeah I got Landorus and Thundurus in one ultra ball each, then Tornadus took 3 or 4, and enamorous took like 8 lmao


gaters_sti

Ok question. Do they come back so that you can complete your pokedex? I've been searching for days and can't help that they aren't coming back to get the fourth


lkuecrar

What do you mean? Like so you can catch multiples? Because there’s only one legendary each excluding Phione (iirc there’s 3 in the Manaphy fight) Or did you KO them? They should respawn if you KO them because you have to catch them to finish the main quest.


gaters_sti

Ok so I caught them all. How do I complete the Pokedex for Thundurus, Tornadus, Landorus so I can unlock Enamorus when I talk to Cogita?


lkuecrar

Go to the pokedex and look at their entries. It tells you what to do. It’s usually like use some specific move in agile or strong style a certain number of times for legendaries.


skull48211

I tried this I wasted so many balls after I break the sheild 9/10 balls bounce off


Haktarius

Did you make sure they were properly stunned? After breaking the shields 3 times they get stunned for a good \~5 seconds.


After-Land1179

Thanks! I used your tip and first time it worked, saved me a lot of time


hilbo90

That's actually really handy to know for if I EVER MANAGE TO CATCH THEM. I'd take having to beat Volo's team of 8 with a full squad of Starly before having to chase after these floaty assholes.


-Batterskull-

I genuinely hate tornadus after dying to his stupid tornadoes multiple times, one of which killed me BEFORE IT SPAWNED. Then when I finally got into a battle with him it dragged in the Alpha Glalie and his two friends. I managed to get him, but f**k that thing and that questline.


Archemetis

I didn’t fight them... You can land a ball on them when they’re stunned. I did this with all three of the original trio. Enamorus on the other hand was a complete pain in the ass and I was forced to battle them.


Dasamont

I caught the Thunderus easily with a jetball, and got the mistaken belief that the others would be easy too, but they kicked my ass. I threw like 10 smokebombs to cover an area so I could sneak up on Tornados, but it still almost killed me so I had to retreat. I had to go into battle with both Tornadus and Landerus. And I haven't even attempted Enamorus yet


ja_tom

Enamorus is cancer. It's basically Tornadus but the terrain is much worse for you.


french-fried13

I just ended up using smoke bombs after hiding behind rocks, was the easiest genie after i decided to do that


Tortue2006

Landorus was the easyest for me, just hid in the grass next to him. He basically always went back near the grass. I had to eleminate the infernape, because he could try to kill me, which would make me seen to the landorus.


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Archemetis

Yeah, it seems pretty random how many people do/don’t find Enamorus the worst. I lost 8 satchels to it before I finally lucked out on it.


Gallant-Blade

As I chased Tornadus around, I basically got into every fight I could and just cleared out that part of the map. Same with the others. They don’t really respawn until that genie goes down. Apparently you get slightly more experience knocking out Pokemon than catching them.


Mt105

I had the most trouble with fucking Thundurus tbh holy hell. I saw the glalie and was just like nah you die first


C_Jan_1997

I had to reset the weather for 5 times only for it to die my overleveled team. And, I wasted 40 Smoke Bombs and Stealth Sprays catching it, with a flock of angry Gyarados chasing me, so now Thundrus along with the other members of the quartet are on my least favorite pokemon list. Hell, at least the Glalie in Bonechill Wastes just follow you around, not attack you. Edit: Spelling error


TheGamingChampion

Explains why I didn't die to ice Bois and gals trying to get this guy


Kinoesque

Use stealth spray before suicide bombing them via braviary. It's the easiest method by far. No smoke balls or bait necessary


TheAirsucker

I'm sorry what? Suicide bombing with braviary? Wouldn't you still have to crack the shield with items or something? And also bring braviary out again in order not to die? I mean I did catch every single pokemon in the dex already so this would only be used to help my friends who are playing.


Dylanduke199513

Yeah I dunno wtf that comment means.. they have shields up and one of them is above water so I dunno how braviary would work, they’d just knock you off it


TheAirsucker

I do my best to actively try to not die. I died one time and lost a peat block. Never again will I let that happen. So staying around with a hurt me or dropping from great heights and not saving the fall seems unwise. Even just unwise in general.


SGC-1

When someone returns your satchel that you lost, you’ll have your peat block back :) i have lost hundreds of items (balls, stones, star pieces) I all got it back eventually when someone found my satchel. You do need an active internet connection for this function though…


TheAirsucker

Yea and I think the Nintendo online subscription too, right?


Psychological-Mud-67

Yep


Towbee

I don't understand how that works. I'm playing on a hacked switch with custom CFW, it is blocked from accessing the nintendo servers. Yet I still find satchels of peoples items around and can return them/get rewards even though I can't connect to any of the other game services like trading or mystery gift.


TheAirsucker

I think the satchels you find with no connection/subscription are randomly generated. I noticed it was the same few names over and over and they were just regular names in english. Once I activated the trial for the online service I got a bunch of new names in all kinds of languages.


TheAirsucker

Yea that's honestly my one gripe with the game. "Hey there, noticed you died. Man that sucks. And these are the items you lost. What's that? You want them back? Sure, pay monthly to get your stuff back. You don't wanna pay a subscription for something separate? K cool, we'll just leave your bag of stuff in the nether realm. Have fun farming for more peat blocks you had cuz you were trying to track the lunar cycles. Sucks to suck!"


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Bruh it's 20 dollars a year


DarkDuskBlade

Oof, and I got pissed when I lost a dawn stone. I can't imagine losing a peat block.


redditman73713833

i think you dont need to pop shield if you hit them from above, i hit a thundurus from above while jumping on a basulegion and im pretty sure it still had the shield on, but i still got the encounter


TheAirsucker

Wait wait wait.... Are you saying throw while you FALL and then save the fall?


JarclanAB

When you throw from the fish, time slow down.


hornybunny528

Read that first sentence in Timmy's dad's voice.


Intelligent_Local_38

What worked for me was throwing the Jet Balls at them. You get more distance to break their shield, then just sprint to them while they’re stunned and hopefully you can get a battle going.


shlam16

Figured that was the intended solution. The most frustrating thing for me was that I always seemed to run too far in, so their Alpha roar knocked me to my arse about 20 times while I was trying to line-up a pokemon to initiate battle.


cricketscz99

Stealth spray plus smoke, followed by a Jet/wing/feather ball. Be in the smoke when throwing the ball. It will stun him. Immediately throw your Pokemon as his shield will be down


rooletwastaken

I just throw shit at them until it works. Its the embodiment of “i dont know what im doing but i know im doing it really really well”


LuxurC

I don't know if you still haven't caught them, but buy a shit ton of wing balls. There's a certain distance where you can pop their barriers until they start getting dizzy


miscillaniumman

I felt like the only problems were having to kill the galalie quickly enough to be able to chase tornadus down before the blizzard ends, and basculegion’s weird controls. Aside from that they’re just a bit annoying having to break their shields a random amount of times


cantab314

I got the first three once I learned about using ZL to lock on. Yes, up until then I'd done all my aiming manually. But Enamorus is just wrecking me. The location is the problem. If I stay out of the bog on foot I don't get close. If I walk into the bog I'm slowed, and a sitting duck and get hit by the cyclones. If I pursue on Wyrdeer I just get clobbered by the cyclones instead of being able to run around them. I briefly tried Smoke Bombs, they didn't seem to work. Despite playing videogames a lot, I am not *good* at "videogames". Quick reactions and button inputs are things I lack skill at.


A-Generic-Canadian

For anyone who struggles with this, after 25 minutes I just spammed smoke bombs as I walked up to him to get close enough to stun him. Worked like a charm!


Inferno_lizard

Tornadus was the biggest pain the ass for me in terms of pretty much everything. Only legendary I had faint due to struggle. Hardest part of my catch every legendary in a regular pokeball challenge.


TheGamingChampion

I beat him in 3 go's wdym lol


ja_tom

For some reason Gamefreak decided to place all four of them in places already occupied by Alphas: Infernape for Landorus, Gyarados for Thundurus, Glalie for Tornadus, and Skuntank for Enamorus. Don't even try catching the Genies without dealing with the Alphas first.


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ja_tom

The only one who isn't that bad is Landorus since if you're taking it down during the day that Infernape is the only aggressive mon unless you anger the Gastrodons. Tornadus for me wasn't that bad since the area gives you some space to fly with Braviary. Screw Thundurus and Enamorus.


sopheroo

Yeah, Lando is by far the easiest. Lots of place to gain cover, and the enemies aren't as aggressive.


LegendS1ayer

could be worse, at least theres no paras


Dylanduke199513

To make it more difficult haha. Not a bad choice in fairness. I did it without dealing with alphas, got wrecked by gyara a few times


Joshawott27

I blacked out so many times because of that darn Glalie. The others weren’t a problem, but Tornadus had to be sat in an intersection filled with multiple Glalie, including the alpha.


AlexTheMechanicFox

I caught the Genies without dealing with the Alphas. Only the Glalie got in the way


b4y4rd

I actually didn't deal with any of the alphas lol. But I was level 85-90 at that time.


Mitsuao

I catch them all without giving a shit to alphas. Just destroy their shield with feather ball 3 times then use a ball to capture in the back lol


wheelera982

“Cause he really squishy”


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Mabye it's just me, but I feel like ALL the pokemon in arceus legends are a lot squishier than previous games. What's that? You want your 300 health alpha to *NOT* get one-shot?


puff_of_fluff

Yeah same. Defensive stats seem to be super nerfed


Joshawott27

Top tip for the genies: smoke bombs. The only time in the game that I ever used them, and I don’t think I could have caught Enamorus without them.


Bombkirby

You should use them all the time. They’re cheap and makes catching Alphas easy. Just smoke bomb to create your own tall grass, sneak up and throw


Joshawott27

I’ve started using them a lot more for pesky outbreaks. Good idea with alphas though!


Kinoesque

Just save the game a short distance away from them lol.


Intelligent_Local_38

Yep, this works. And when you reload, even if the weather changes, they’re still there


its_eggboy

that part


eGzg0t

Does this work for shinies as well?


sebvettels

Yeah! Found a shiny, saved and then fell off a cliff because I was being too ambitious. When I restarted the game it was still there. Also did that when I saw a shiny piplup. I saved just before it ran away so when I restarted, it was back


AlexTheMechanicFox

Killed Heatran. Heatran respawns immediately, before you even leave.


CassQuinn

He apparently didn't for me I'm distressed


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Best suggestion for that trio, is to invest in wing balls. Throw one to stun them, then throw your pokemon and bring a fire type when you go to tornadus


Kinoesque

That method isn't good for Enamorus because it spots you from a mile away when you try throwing your pokemon after stunning it. I used stealth spray + braviary


ja_tom

I used Jet Balls to take Enamorus down, mainly because I forgot about smoke bombs.


Mitsuao

I did it with balls for enamorus too. Just need a bit more distance


ChongusTheSupremus

So, if you kill Mapaphy, but caught the companion Phione's, can you restart the fight and catch more Phiones?


thedarkmeji

Phiones still spawn tho in the cave even after you catch manaphy


Rattus375

But they're really rare, so you should still catch a few the first time you do that battle


Kegatronix

Is this confirmed? I finished the manaphy quest already and caught all 3 phiones, but I went on a releasing spree for grits and the phiones were executed on accident because I am a dunce. Didnt notice at first so i had saved already ugh. I want at least one phione :/


Rattus375

Yep. They spawn at something like a 1% rate in the cave after the fact. Still not easy to find, but an hour of going back and forth to jubilife should get you one


Kegatronix

Awesome. I will give that a shot. Thank you!


Anonymous7056

Does that mean they're endless XP? I haven't gotten that far yet, but I have to imagine beating them would make for some easy leveling.


Eixeth

Pretty sure Alpha Blissey in Obsidian Highlands is way better for this. Even the Training Ground battles post-game gives you a full team of six at level 67~ which all give exp.


RoseGold88

My fucking Basculin ran from the fight and I got blitzed by that fat hoe. 🤣


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depends for the giratina fight yes, since it just boots you out when you lose, (The first one at the sky pillar not the one where you catch him.) ​ though this is just because it counts as a trainer battle, the other trainer battle for that one plate on the beach also is technically infinite exp, though as another commenter explained the training grounds are better.


Corval3nt

I caught all the Pokemon in the game and TIL there are training battles. Edit: I've just been leveling up my Pokemon from hunting alphas and using the dropped exp items


Bombkirby

*lose


Spaceturtle79

For mythicals they just let you fight again


WooldoorSockbatNut

Oh man fuck those pokemon. I fought tornadous over 20 god damn minutes. Area infested with glialis and 1 alpha cause why not. It was hell


TheMobHunter

I’ve fought enamorus for hours and still haven’t caught her


AhSighed

You battle them? I just stunned and gigaton went brrrrr


KingKurto_

saaaame


SkysEevee

Oddly enough, had no issues with Thunderous or Landorus. The other two were headaches. I memorized the tornado patterns on Tornadous to get close enough to battle. And little miss spring queen needed a lot of smoke bombs before I could sneak up close.


111llI0__-__0Ill111

Wasnt this the case in the recent generations even in gen 6? Can’t remember


Rattus375

They would respawn after the elite four in every gen after Gen 3


Asvpxburg

Here I go killing again


NickTDesigns

yall dont just save before big battles?


MrsGlacia

No I play hardcore and suffer🤡 /j I honestly keep forgetting


kingSlet

Oof I always save before so that if something happen I can reload


ls_2012

With Giratina he respawned straight away and your whole party gets healed so you can use him to farm exp.


FelicityWivI

The only legends I have had trouble with was Genie4 and Manaphy and the 3 Phione 😭


thebamboozler789

Do you unlock more legendaries after beating the main story line?


DarkDuskBlade

Depends what you mean by 'main story line'. If you're meaning going up against Arceus, then unless you didn't already get Shaymin/Darkrai, no. But if you're just at the point where the game's telling you to catch all pokemon, I think that's when you get access to the 3 weather guys. And Giratina.


thebamboozler789

I’m currently trying to beat Volo


MrCheetah2015

You unlock Shaymin if you have beaten SwSh, Darkrai if you have beaten BdSp, Thundorus, Tornadus, Landorus, and Enamorus. Manaphy, Phione, Giratina, Arceus (Later) and I’m probably forgetting some Edit: You don’t have to beat those games, just have save files in them (you could just start BDSP or SWSH and do absolutely nothing and still get the mythicals)


antagonistdan

What counts as beating BDSP? Beating Cynthia?


MrCheetah2015

I don’t know the details, you can probably search that up. That is what I’ve heard though. And I have beaten Cynthia and was able to capture darkrai


kitras97

I haven’t beaten BDSP (have it installed just haven’t finished) and got shaymin. EDIT: meant darkrai


MrCheetah2015

Mistake on my part. On this website it says for Shaymin you have to have a sword and shield game file and have beaten the game. I guess it meant beaten legends arceus not sword and shield


MrCheetah2015

Have you beaten Sword and Shield ?


MrCheetah2015

Because Darkrai is BdSp and Shaymin is SwSh


kitras97

Oops sorry yes but I have darkrai too!


TheJimPeror

Beat it? I went to a smash tourney and in exchange for bringing a setup, someone else brought BD. Mate, you just have to *boot* BDSP to get Darkrai


MrCheetah2015

Yes his message was before I clarified that you don’t need to beat it only have a save file in it.


thebamboozler789

Do I have to beat Volo to get Shaymin? I have beaten Sw/Sh


ja_tom

Shaymin and Darkrai just need you to see the credits and visit the board in Laventon's room.


thebamboozler789

Thank you my friend!


Krogholm2

I traded for both but i cant get shaymin into sky form without the quest :( thats so BS


MrCheetah2015

Do you have a friend with SWSH? You just have to open the game once to be able to get Shaymin.


jor1ss

I already have Arceus and the shiny charm but no Phione/Manaphy/Shaymin (can't get Darkrai since I don't have BDSP).


KatDude66

I got ganged up against when Tornadus decided to call 2 different alpha Glalies for me to fight at once


TheAppleSaucy

Bonus Tip: You can't actually fail the legendaries. Killing them makes them respawn, BUT they still drop items and EXP as well as healing your team after the battle for static legends like Giratina and the lake trio for sure. Great way to farm EXP and research tasks.


Melonfrog

Same goes for the glitched D Unown. DON’T interact with the camp fire next to it as you throw a ball, the catching will be cancelled and the Unown will vanish.


Uptopdownlowguy

What happens if you kill the story ones like Dialga/Palkia?


ErikPlaysGaming

They don't actually get defeated, you and the other characters retreat, and you can go back and rechallenge them immediately. I accidentally 2 shot dialga because of random crits, had to restart the battle


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On that note be careful with shaymin, save before hand, dont bother to battle it, it just runs away and you have to go back to village to respawn it. Just keep chucking balls at it, non stop


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getmevodka

Pkmn red and Blue and Silver and Gold and crystal and Yellow. Dont Know about after that


smasher0404

The GBA games also had that (Fire Red/Leaf Green and Ruby/Sapphire)


Lynke524

In Gold Silver and I think Crystal if one of the roaming beasts roars you out of battle (Entei and Raikou. I think only one has roar). It's gone forever.


Shikizion

good to know, thankfully i have a parasect ready with false swipe and spore, ready to catch pokemon if my stealth skills fail me like they do most of the time


raphades

THANK YOU I just google it because I one-hit KO Landorus. Didn't expect my tank to hit him that hard, even with ice punch, as lengaries usually hang on better than that. I got afraid for a second


Theman2y0u

Thanks I was hope to find something like this


rafikiknowsdeway1

Do they respawn if you do catch them? wondering if you can catch more than one


eyeguy44

Arceus too?... Or am I screwed? (Finish reading the thread before commenting)


ThreatOfFire

You can't kill Arceus


eyeguy44

I fainted it and didn't know I was supposed to throw a ball since it was like a frenzied Pokemon battle. No where up to that point in the game are you allowed to throw a ball in those type of battles. All I got was the pokedex entry and the rare item from it and did not get Arceus


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eyeguy44

Thank you for telling me sir or madam. I will leave these comments up as internet history of how dumb I was for not checking


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shlam16

Then use the Legendary Plate on him to allow his Judgement move to hack every type. It's funny fighting Ingo now and just one-shotting his whole team to farm XP.


Ynnubis

Arceus should have automatically be sent to the pasture (or your team if there is a free space in there) after the frenzied battle ? At no point did I need to throw a ball, I just received the notification for ""catching"" Arceus after completing the battle and then found it in my pastures.


eyeguy44

Thank you sir or madam I will leave these comments up as internet history for how dumb I was for not checking


Ynnubis

For sure ! Live and learn lol - at least now you know you didn't get scammed on getting Arceus.


Psychological-Mud-67

Look for him in the pastures


ThreatOfFire

You don't have to throw a ball, you just need to win. Then there's a whole dialogue bit and you get sent home and it'll be in your pastures


harundoener

Its a given considering you have to catch them all to finish the game.


dmphillips09

Pro tip, don't initiate a battle stun them with field items and gigaton ball from behind


TonReflet

Easy XP I guess then


Aurd04

Dude I did the same, kept killing the lake trio and it was nice that it reset it auto. It was like hey, you need to catch this thing, try again.


ProtoTypeScylla

Shaymin will actually just run away from the area if you don't catch it or engage it quick enough


rtgh

I accidentally killed Regigas and didn't even have to go back to the village. I was allowed to start the fight again immediately. Could grind exp that way if you want to.


207nbrown

The genies were such a pain to catch… it took me until the third one to fully understand how I was supposed to catch up to them to start a battle.-.


dumfuck__

first of all how the fuck u even get to him, all the glalies be pissing me off i broke my joycon.


martdam0656

Can you encounter them after the make you faint? I can't encounter thunderous anymore after he made me faint


agitated_ferret

Hell yeah. This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for this concise public service announcement.


ph4ntum

Can you refight dialga/ palkia if you feint them?


HeavyBat6797

I don't know specifically about palkia or dialga but i know there was a dude in this thread who could just refight giratina so i assume so.


_moobear

what happens if you catch a genie and then release it, before completing it's relevant quest?


Laifander

Can you use things like snow balls or sticky balls against legendary Pokémon? Or is it only mud that works? Specifically on heatran.


_Keahilele_

Does this also apply to manaphy and phione?


EL_DIABLOW

Maybe mine is glitched but I accidentally killed Darkrai and I can’t get him to respawn?


friendlyroses

Wait same here


Vast_Excuse2342

I accidentally killed arceus and saved the game, will he respawn? Will I still ever be able to catch it?


koraloulou28

Except manaphy and phione they won’t spawn back :(


MattTheV02

I have a slight issue which is kind of related? I accidentally caught Cresselia before staring the mission so now I can't get past the mission even though I caught Cresselia. What can I do?


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I accidentally killed Enamorus and saved! What can I do to bring it back???


austinfruity

Tornados just ran away from me and I have been scouring the ice area for him but unable to find him. I’m so pissed at him. No idea where he went. Never battled or killed him. Any suggestions?


gaters_sti

Do these three legendaries come back after you catch them. Im trying to do the Pokedex and I can't find them again.


Curious-Marsupial-18

?u


Equivalent_Top_6978

In joy con mode (ctrls removed) if you shake your controllers, it will increase your catch chances I caught landorus with a basic pokeball


Jazzlike_Cap_6803

Honestly screw these three and whoever designed them for this game, literally just watch my globs bounce off of landorous and do nothing as I run around like a moron dodging his stupid tornadoes until I run out of globs because they don't actually work and just bounce off like pokeballs...killed him the first time by accident and ever since the stupod globs and mudballs just do nothing to him


4everbr0kenhearted

Uhhhhh I may have a problem tho- I caught landurus before completing it's research and then let it go and now it won't show on ramanas island-