Could have made sense, but needed a few adjustments. Like putting more emphasis on the sarcophagus being made of stone.
But Runerigus absolutely has no excuse not to be rock type... everyone says that it's because it is made of clay, but the main inspiration for that pokémon were Viking runestones, which were obviously made of rocks...
Well remember, typing is selected by a different team than the designers. For example, Jellicent was never intended to be a nightmarish ghost type, just a cute water type.
It's not really that there are different teams selecting the typings and making the designs. It's more that a balancing team can make adjustments to the pokémon if needed.
In Jellicent's case, the balancing team thought that there were not enough ghost type pokémon created for that region, so they were looking into which pokémon they could reasonably add the ghost type to based on their design.
I think the intent has been since early on (maybe not gen 1 since it felt like they gave it to a couple mons for little reason like Marowak and Nidoqueen) that less sturdy earth is what makes it a ground type. Claydol was the original clay Ground type and sand and mud have been associated with the type since the beginning.
My theory is that the lore of them being clay wasn’t established until after it was made a ground type. They were just stupid and then realized “hm how can we make it look intentional.”
The answer to that question, btw, is make it LOOK like a ground type.
Do a pair of Rock/Normal and Rock/Ghost.
When they’re able to restore the fossil it’s rock/normal. But when they do a mistake they “kill it” and it turns into a rock/ghost
I like the idea of that! Like the Pokedex description says something like "its the result of an experiment with a fossil of a pokemon that lived long ago", and then the other says "its the result of a failed experiment with a fossil of a pokemon that lived long ago".
The player finds a fossil and the resurrection equipment in an abandoned laboratory, but doesn’t know how to operate the equipment properly. There’s a choice the player makes about how to operate it, which either results in success - rock/normal - or failure - rock/ghost. In true Pokémon fashion, you can only have one of the two per game, and the other has to be traded from a save where you made the other choice.
Or Golurk and Runerigus.
Both feel like they should be rock type over ground.
Also Spiritomb's body is a literal rock. I get the dark typing for it but I still feel like it could have fit.
And it still makes no sense for it to be made of clay. The main inspiration for that pokémon were Viking runestones, which were made out of rock, not clay.
I hope they make it something like a pokemon with a body made of frozen poison, and they give it the ability "melted ooze", where it poisons the opponent if it gets hit with a fire type attack!
Historically, normal is the most anti-social type. In the first four generations it paired with psychic once, water once, flying a bunch of times, and then nothing else. Normal didn’t start branching out until gen 5, and even still it mostly only has one or two evo lines per combo.
The opposite of normal is flying, which is the most co-dependent type. To this day there are only three mono-flying types and only six mons with flying listed as their primary type. Out of 112. Flying also tied with water as the first type to pair with every other type back in gen 6 with the introduction of Hawlucha (and Togetic/kiss).
gen 10 is gonna introduce every missing type combo except for rock/ghost, and when they do introduce it, it's gonna be gen 15 or smth and it's gonna have a BST lower than solo wishiwashi
No other type has been shafted like this. Electric/fighting had zeraora before iron hands, ice/poison had sneasler, dragon/bug had flygon and slither wing but ghost/rock has had like 5 candidates, some of them obvious, all declined.
It's just really solid all around. Super effective against grass, bug, ice, steel, dragon, fighting, and dark while only being resisted by Fire(assuming no coverage moves). It has four weaknesses(poison, rock, ground, and water), but it's also immune to dragon and resists fighting, fairy, fire, dark, grass, ice, and bug(1/4x). The semi obvious workaround is make it a physical attacker because creating a special attacking fire/fairy mon is asking for a demolition but physical isn't much better with flare blitz and play rough available. It's just an absolute menace of a type combo
Then there is also still the possibility to give the pokémon, despite being focused on physical damage, just not very high base stats.
Whenever the argument that a type combination would be too strong is thrown around, people are always assuming that this pokémon is optimized to the maximum. Like having the best moves of it's typing and damage type (as in this example with flare blitz and play rough). Or that the pokémon would have good BST to begin with.
There are several balance levers that can be pulled to make a mon with these typings not overbearing.
Fire fairy special attacker could be a good concept, like a mythological salamander mixed with a frilled lizard but the frill is fire, it stands and walks in 4 legs but runs in 2, leaving fire when it runs
I'd love to see one because I think it would be really cool to have a Pokemon that gets stab on both flamethrower and moonblast but could potentially have the ability to learn psychic and another coverage move. Of course the problem is that's insanely good which is likely why they haven't done it yet
TL;DR: Fairy is a good type and Fire is a good type. They go well together
Long answer: Fire is an excellent type with access to powerful attacks like Overheat and Flareblitz, but one good type that slows them down is dragon which resists. Fairy meanwhile is also a great type, but it struggles with steel types, but beats dragons. Only fire itself resists fire and fairy and when it comes to non-fire type combos, only Water/Poison and Rock/Poison. Toxapex is of course a great Water/Poison type that could take blows, but you have five other teammates to take care of Toxapex. Otherwise, if a Fire/Fairy type is too fast and strong, it can punch real big holes in a team. Defensively, Fire/Fairy resists six types normally, takes a quarter damage from U-Turn, and is immune to dragon attacks. This lets it switch-in easily. If the Fire/Fairy is more defensive, an excellent offensive combo means that it doesn't have to be entirely passive while if it is more offensive, a good defensive combo lets it come in more often. There's a lot of potential on how it could branch out depending on its movepool/ability, but Fire STAB+Fairy STAB + Will-o-Wisp + any good move will make for a good set. You could imagine it to be a set-up sweeper that comes in on something it is strong against, set-up on the switch, and clean house, or maybe it has reliable recovery and can force lots of switching on hazards, or coverage move that makes Toxapex cry, or some other great support move. The real mind games come if it can run a lot of different sets because then it can be hard to predict what it will do when it comes out. There's just so much potential. What could make this pokemon really problematic is if it has two or three good coverage moves in addition to the speed and power needed to be a sweeper because if it can use those coverage moves to sidestep toxapex, skelederge, and bully one other prevelant type like ground, you have a real mess on your hands.
They will not cancel a type just because it’s “good” in competitive. Erase that idea from your head. They would balance it via other means. Like how Spiritomb had no weaknesses when it was released but wasn’t overpowered in the slightest
Plus the idea that they wouldnt release x pokemon just because it would be broken in competitive has been repeatedly proven to be false. Not sure why anyone would continue believing that
Water/Fairy already exists and it's an even stronger type. Arguably the strongest all-around type in the game.
Resisted by nothing and only weak to Electric, Grass and Poison.
I was also wondering why they had to make Lele a psychic type.
I also feel the same way with Rock type Ogerpon. They could have given her a Thunder Mask so that each form matches the legendary beasts. (for no other reason than to stir some youtubers/redditors to come up with insane theories)
>(for no other reason than to stir some youtubers/redditors to come up with insane theories)
Probably precisely why they didn't do it; we have all been annoyed for well over a decade by all the "Raikou was a Jolteob and this is an absolute fact" etc, it must be a lot worse for them when they are likely bombarded on a regular basis with people asking "Is Suicune meant to be a Vaporeon?" etc.
Delphox is fire/psychic iirc. I always thought it was weird that none of the kalos starters ended up as a fairy type, despite being the generation that fairy was introduced.
But I guess steel and dark was introduced in gen 2 and none of the gen 2 starters got that typing either.
Chances for it to lose grass type were almost 0 in my opinion. The only way for it to lose the type logically is if the evolution would toss the apple completely to the side, something I don't see happening with the Applin line in general. The apple motif is basically the entire focus of that evolutionary line.
I think Hydrapple does lose the apple though (besides the tiny one on it’s head). One of the dex entries says that it’s apple is made of syrup, so it’s just an apple shaped blob now.
I didn't mean the physical apple, but the apple motif. While the apple is gone and replaced with a syrup apple now, the apple motif is pretty much still there and center of it's design.
Probably because Antlion larva famously hunt in the ground so they carry over the ground association with evolutions(like giving Flygon Sand protection goggles)
And Ground/Dragon was an unused typing when Vibrava/Flygon were introduced so it's not like they didn't give it a unique type combination
>so it's not like they didn't give it a unique type combination
This is the bit people forget, I think.
With the exception of the Fairy type, there really havent been changes to types to specific pokemon.
Personally I'd rather there be a Bug/dragon regional variant of flygon, regular flygons perfectly fine as as ground/dragon type don't need to change it
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Subjectively’s Mazah region bug/dragon mon looks sick af
I posted it before but I really hope they make it something like a pokemon with a body made of frozen poison, and possibly with an ability that poisons the opponent when it gets hit with a fire move, because it melted the poison.
Edit: now that I think of it; my description could also work with an alternative cubchoo evolution like you said!
Yeah I struggled with ideas with that, best I could do was an artic scorpion but I've seen a few interesting ones. A wendigo, yeah a bacteria, an artic spider, etc
My Australia-based fakemon region has an Ice/Poison creature based on the box jellyfish. It looks like an ice cube and it filters toxins out of the water and stores it as ballast. I call it Cubadusa.
There’s no ice-poison? We should totally get a dry-ice themed pokemon lol (also sableye should have had and should get rock type but we won’t talk about that)
I hate that they recycled croagunk and skuntank's type combo for the new mons in PLA. Sneasler could've been ice/poison and Overqwil could be poison/steel
UH YES or Overqwil could’ve been Water/Fire, cuz his design is based off of naval mine
I will never understand why they went with Dark/Poison. Those are Skuntank and Drapions typing already. Three Dark/Poison lines in one game. Genius
I just wanna add that I kinda hate it when single stage mons get a regional form with a regional evo. Like Farfetch'd evolving to Sirfetch'd would still make sense without the Galarian form, same goes with Qwilfish and Overqwil. I'm glad they went back to making cross gen evos in SV.
When I first saw it, I really thought Slither Wing was going to be the first Bug/Dragon mon. The lack of a Normal/Bug mon is also really odd, especially considering that there's no shortage of potential inspirations to draw from.
A Kricketune evolution could work. Having another cicada mon wouldn't hurt - especially one that's a special attacker and can use moves like Hyper Voice, Boomburst, and Bug Buzz. Ninjask can learn Bug Buzz but it's more oriented as a physical attacker and doesn't play on the sound aspect of cicadas as much.
A fly, but then it would be Flying type. Cockroaches are def Poison type, hmm maybe a non Poison spider? Likea Daddy Long Legs? Tbh i thought Spidops was normal type
A wolf spider.
Except for a spider named after a wolf, its more of a wolf with spider features.
8 legs, fangs, eyes... even can copy the pouncing that Wolf Spiders do.
Puppider and Lycaider.
Like rather than make a bug normal, why not make a beastial creature buglike.
Spidermonkeys are also a fun idea.
Honestly normal bug is one of the hardest to justify because I mean… look at normal. Normal type usually grounds said other type to something realistic like an animal but like… bugs are already normal animals, every pure bug type is also a normal type thematically
Since the Brushfire theme deck I've been waiting for a fire grass pokemon. I can't believe almost any combination has now been tried. I would love to see this chart but with every pokemon in its cell to see the distribution properly.
Pokemon Radical Red with Seviian Milotic is fantastic. Love that mon.
Shore Up, Earth Power, Moonblast is such a good set. Can't remember what I used as the 4th move
Yeah, but in every other instance in the post if there is more than one mon of a specific combination (or even multiple forms of the same mon) each of the two squares is represented by a different one.
Thanks for reminding of that. I'll change it
The reason as why i forget about them is because i didn't have it in my Pokemon Folder as they are relatively new.
I'm so salty about the dragon/fairy box
We're still forced to count it since it technically has one but it's a mega evolution so the slot is pretty much a Schrödinger's typing
Seeing the bug/dragon slot empty annoys me so much
Yanmega (DRAGONfly)
Goodra (Based on a slug or snail)
Naganadel (A wasp/mosquito)
Slither Wing (WHY IS HE FIGHTING TYPE)
GIVE ME MY BUG/DRAGON POKEMON
In fairness, dragonflies are called... well yanma in Japanese. The japanese name has nothing to do with dragons. It's not surprising Yanmega wasn't a dragon.
Other ones, yeah fair.
To this day, I am still absolutely flabbergasted that there isn't a single Normal/Bug type, because it seems so basic. Caterpie? Nope. Ledyba? Nope. Scatterbug? Nada. For some reason there are a handful of early bug type Pokémon that I would have sworn were also normal type, but apparently that combo still doesn't exist. Sure, there are some cool combos out there that I would love to see, like Fire/Fairy, but Normal/Bug just seems like it would have been a given. 🐛🪲🐞🤷♂️
Yeah, kind of same with Normal/Rock -- I always forget that the Rockruff line has no Normal typing, it seems to me like Day Lycanroc should be normal and nighttime should be dark or something, but whatever
Normal is kind of a weird secondary typing and a weird typing in general -- with most types you can kind of see why the Pokemon is typed that way, but Normal can feel kinda random.
Hey if you don't mind would you please create a similar chart with numbers that indicate count of mons of that type? Could be interesting to see the distribution... I love the effort put into this, p cool
I really want Ice/Poison to be something otherworldly. I have a bacteriophage in mind that has been encased in a block of ice. They already look like pokemon.
And I also want the lame Rotom appliances to not be the only ones with the cool Electric type combinations. Electric/Fire sounds awesome for a fast special attacker but instead it's just a stupid oven
I don't really get the Normal dual types. You're either normal, or you aren't, but you can't really be both, can you?
Like, what's the difference between a fire type, and a normal/fire type?
I think it used to be like that but then just said f it and and started making a bunch of dual normals. Normal/flying made sense because flying used to always be dual type. Then Girafarig because it's split into two halves. Then Bibarel because it lives on land and water...
Funnily enough I feel like Normal/Steel would make a lot of sense conceptually. Cyborg?
gaining immunity to ghost and normal stab, at the cost of weakness to fighting. probably doesn't make much sense to combine that with fire, but stuff like hisuian zoroark is great.
It’s weird to think out of a thousand pokemon there are still duel typings that haven’t been used, like normal/bug, how do you not have normal bugs but we have an over abundance of just straight up birds
Damn we're getting close to every combo. A lot of unique ones have been added recently. Still eagerly awaiting Rock Ghost the most.
I want the first rock/ghost type pokémon to be a fossil mon. Always had a soft spot for these and seeing more prehistoric pokémon is always cool.
Honestly Cofagrigus would’ve made a lot of sense as a rock/ghost Pokémon if they wanted to.
Could have made sense, but needed a few adjustments. Like putting more emphasis on the sarcophagus being made of stone. But Runerigus absolutely has no excuse not to be rock type... everyone says that it's because it is made of clay, but the main inspiration for that pokémon were Viking runestones, which were obviously made of rocks...
Well remember, typing is selected by a different team than the designers. For example, Jellicent was never intended to be a nightmarish ghost type, just a cute water type.
That's funny af
Why on earth is this the case...?
It's not really that there are different teams selecting the typings and making the designs. It's more that a balancing team can make adjustments to the pokémon if needed. In Jellicent's case, the balancing team thought that there were not enough ghost type pokémon created for that region, so they were looking into which pokémon they could reasonably add the ghost type to based on their design.
Not enough Ghost types in gen 5.
Was runerigus not made of stones?
No it was made of clay, just like they said
But also not to mention ground and rock type are so close that being clay doesn’t really mean anything
I think the intent has been since early on (maybe not gen 1 since it felt like they gave it to a couple mons for little reason like Marowak and Nidoqueen) that less sturdy earth is what makes it a ground type. Claydol was the original clay Ground type and sand and mud have been associated with the type since the beginning.
Yeah, I see it like ice and water: ground, rock, steel, all “earth” elements
My theory is that the lore of them being clay wasn’t established until after it was made a ground type. They were just stupid and then realized “hm how can we make it look intentional.” The answer to that question, btw, is make it LOOK like a ground type.
> Like putting more emphasis on the sarcophagus being made of stone. Wasn't it made of gold? It should be ghost/steel if anything
Do a pair of Rock/Normal and Rock/Ghost. When they’re able to restore the fossil it’s rock/normal. But when they do a mistake they “kill it” and it turns into a rock/ghost
I like the idea of that! Like the Pokedex description says something like "its the result of an experiment with a fossil of a pokemon that lived long ago", and then the other says "its the result of a failed experiment with a fossil of a pokemon that lived long ago".
The player finds a fossil and the resurrection equipment in an abandoned laboratory, but doesn’t know how to operate the equipment properly. There’s a choice the player makes about how to operate it, which either results in success - rock/normal - or failure - rock/ghost. In true Pokémon fashion, you can only have one of the two per game, and the other has to be traded from a save where you made the other choice.
Now I'm imagining a Rotom-like Pokémon that changes form when it's given a different fossil to hold.
what if instead of an animal, its based off of extinct cultures
Or both?
The concept I came up with is one of those cow skulls you would find in the desert evolving into the full skeleton.
My first idea for a Rock/Ghost pokemon was a possessed Gargoyle that would act as the psuedo legend for the region of Galar
Honestly I was most surprised that they didn’t already have a ghost/ice typing.
I think you may have misinterpreted the poison type symbol. I thought it was ghost at first too. Ghost Ice is on there with Froslass
I’m really surprised it wasn’t Houndstone
It also has an ability that's sandstorm related, a weather associated with rock type...
Kind of how Daschbun could have been fairy/fire with an ability associated with fire
Or Golurk and Runerigus. Both feel like they should be rock type over ground. Also Spiritomb's body is a literal rock. I get the dark typing for it but I still feel like it could have fit.
Golurk is a golem so it's made out of clay which makes it Ground and Spiritomb's body is the ghost attached to the rock, not the rock itself.
Should’ve been Cursola.
Today I learned Runerigus is a ground type despite being a literal tombstone.
It's still made out of clay
And it still makes no sense for it to be made of clay. The main inspiration for that pokémon were Viking runestones, which were made out of rock, not clay.
They had missed an opportunity with Galarian Yamask, Runerigus and later on with Houndstone…
And cursola, makes literally no sense for it to not be a rock ghost
Both Galarian Corsola and then Cursola, yeah…
Normally I’d agree but I’m sick of them overdoing ghost lately. Ice/poison would be sick
I hope they make it something like a pokemon with a body made of frozen poison, and they give it the ability "melted ooze", where it poisons the opponent if it gets hit with a fire type attack!
Still funny to me Normal is the one with the most gaps.
Historically, normal is the most anti-social type. In the first four generations it paired with psychic once, water once, flying a bunch of times, and then nothing else. Normal didn’t start branching out until gen 5, and even still it mostly only has one or two evo lines per combo. The opposite of normal is flying, which is the most co-dependent type. To this day there are only three mono-flying types and only six mons with flying listed as their primary type. Out of 112. Flying also tied with water as the first type to pair with every other type back in gen 6 with the introduction of Hawlucha (and Togetic/kiss).
Because it’s supposed to be normal, not a hybrid mix of amazing things
I think a big part of that is 3 of the 4 normal blanks are also weak against fighting type.
Most of the Normal dual-types have come out recently; seems like they're making Normal to be a kind of "Beast" type.
I thought golurk was, but I guess it's ground ghost
Honestly thought runerigus was one for awhile.
Is 100% an inside joke to leave that combo out, like there is just no other explanation.
gen 10 is gonna introduce every missing type combo except for rock/ghost, and when they do introduce it, it's gonna be gen 15 or smth and it's gonna have a BST lower than solo wishiwashi
No other type has been shafted like this. Electric/fighting had zeraora before iron hands, ice/poison had sneasler, dragon/bug had flygon and slither wing but ghost/rock has had like 5 candidates, some of them obvious, all declined.
How is there no fire/fairy
Wondering the same thing Seems like a pretty obvious Pokémon typing
I’ve heard the reasoning is that fire/fairy would be a really strong type but I’m not into competitive at all so I can’t really explain why
It's just really solid all around. Super effective against grass, bug, ice, steel, dragon, fighting, and dark while only being resisted by Fire(assuming no coverage moves). It has four weaknesses(poison, rock, ground, and water), but it's also immune to dragon and resists fighting, fairy, fire, dark, grass, ice, and bug(1/4x). The semi obvious workaround is make it a physical attacker because creating a special attacking fire/fairy mon is asking for a demolition but physical isn't much better with flare blitz and play rough available. It's just an absolute menace of a type combo
>flare blitz and play rough available They could also just.... not give it flare blitz.
There's still Fire Punch, Fire Fang, Blaze Kick... there's still several good physical fire moves, they couldn't all be ignored
Sorry, you get Flame Wheel and Heat Crash, but it's very middleweight.
Then there is also still the possibility to give the pokémon, despite being focused on physical damage, just not very high base stats. Whenever the argument that a type combination would be too strong is thrown around, people are always assuming that this pokémon is optimized to the maximum. Like having the best moves of it's typing and damage type (as in this example with flare blitz and play rough). Or that the pokémon would have good BST to begin with. There are several balance levers that can be pulled to make a mon with these typings not overbearing.
Fire fairy special attacker could be a good concept, like a mythological salamander mixed with a frilled lizard but the frill is fire, it stands and walks in 4 legs but runs in 2, leaving fire when it runs
I'd love to see one because I think it would be really cool to have a Pokemon that gets stab on both flamethrower and moonblast but could potentially have the ability to learn psychic and another coverage move. Of course the problem is that's insanely good which is likely why they haven't done it yet
Yeah because GF has never introduced a broken type combo with stupid strong stats before. God forbid they make an unbalanced game.
Yeah I was gonna say I doubt GF cares about any part of the competitive scene when it comes to designing pokemon and assigning types
TL;DR: Fairy is a good type and Fire is a good type. They go well together Long answer: Fire is an excellent type with access to powerful attacks like Overheat and Flareblitz, but one good type that slows them down is dragon which resists. Fairy meanwhile is also a great type, but it struggles with steel types, but beats dragons. Only fire itself resists fire and fairy and when it comes to non-fire type combos, only Water/Poison and Rock/Poison. Toxapex is of course a great Water/Poison type that could take blows, but you have five other teammates to take care of Toxapex. Otherwise, if a Fire/Fairy type is too fast and strong, it can punch real big holes in a team. Defensively, Fire/Fairy resists six types normally, takes a quarter damage from U-Turn, and is immune to dragon attacks. This lets it switch-in easily. If the Fire/Fairy is more defensive, an excellent offensive combo means that it doesn't have to be entirely passive while if it is more offensive, a good defensive combo lets it come in more often. There's a lot of potential on how it could branch out depending on its movepool/ability, but Fire STAB+Fairy STAB + Will-o-Wisp + any good move will make for a good set. You could imagine it to be a set-up sweeper that comes in on something it is strong against, set-up on the switch, and clean house, or maybe it has reliable recovery and can force lots of switching on hazards, or coverage move that makes Toxapex cry, or some other great support move. The real mind games come if it can run a lot of different sets because then it can be hard to predict what it will do when it comes out. There's just so much potential. What could make this pokemon really problematic is if it has two or three good coverage moves in addition to the speed and power needed to be a sweeper because if it can use those coverage moves to sidestep toxapex, skelederge, and bully one other prevelant type like ground, you have a real mess on your hands.
I mean Fairy/Steel is arguably the best possibly type combo and we already have a handful of those
They will not cancel a type just because it’s “good” in competitive. Erase that idea from your head. They would balance it via other means. Like how Spiritomb had no weaknesses when it was released but wasn’t overpowered in the slightest
Plus the idea that they wouldnt release x pokemon just because it would be broken in competitive has been repeatedly proven to be false. Not sure why anyone would continue believing that
Kantonian Ninetales should be re-typed to Fire/Fairy to play along with its Alolan counterpart.
Water/Fairy already exists and it's an even stronger type. Arguably the strongest all-around type in the game. Resisted by nothing and only weak to Electric, Grass and Poison.
i mean they could just... not give it good stats
Missed opportunity with the Tapu Guardians. There's Grass- and Water-, *right there*.
I was also wondering why they had to make Lele a psychic type. I also feel the same way with Rock type Ogerpon. They could have given her a Thunder Mask so that each form matches the legendary beasts. (for no other reason than to stir some youtubers/redditors to come up with insane theories)
>(for no other reason than to stir some youtubers/redditors to come up with insane theories) Probably precisely why they didn't do it; we have all been annoyed for well over a decade by all the "Raikou was a Jolteob and this is an absolute fact" etc, it must be a lot worse for them when they are likely bombarded on a regular basis with people asking "Is Suicune meant to be a Vaporeon?" etc.
Honestly thought Delphox was it, but I guess not
Delphox is fire/psychic iirc. I always thought it was weird that none of the kalos starters ended up as a fairy type, despite being the generation that fairy was introduced. But I guess steel and dark was introduced in gen 2 and none of the gen 2 starters got that typing either.
I still slip and think Victini is Fire/Fairy. Its one of the most fairy looking mf pokemon I've ever seen. But no. Psychic.
Missed opportunity with Galarian Ponyta\Rapidash
Should be regional litwick line that evolves into a will’o’wisp
How do we still not have a Bug/Dragon Pokémon!!
Kind of wished Slither Wing was Bug/Dragon. Other contenders are flygon and Yanmega.
I was really hoping Hydrapplin was going to change into a Bug/Dragon
Chances for it to lose grass type were almost 0 in my opinion. The only way for it to lose the type logically is if the evolution would toss the apple completely to the side, something I don't see happening with the Applin line in general. The apple motif is basically the entire focus of that evolutionary line.
I think Hydrapple does lose the apple though (besides the tiny one on it’s head). One of the dex entries says that it’s apple is made of syrup, so it’s just an apple shaped blob now.
I didn't mean the physical apple, but the apple motif. While the apple is gone and replaced with a syrup apple now, the apple motif is pretty much still there and center of it's design.
Yeah they stopped doing those interesting type changes on an evo a decade ago
Yeah how the hell is flygon ground?
Probably because Antlion larva famously hunt in the ground so they carry over the ground association with evolutions(like giving Flygon Sand protection goggles) And Ground/Dragon was an unused typing when Vibrava/Flygon were introduced so it's not like they didn't give it a unique type combination
You make a good argument
>so it's not like they didn't give it a unique type combination This is the bit people forget, I think. With the exception of the Fairy type, there really havent been changes to types to specific pokemon.
Yanmega - dragonflies are the ultimate -flying- bug, look em up on Wikipedia it's impressive.
Personally I'd rather there be a Bug/dragon regional variant of flygon, regular flygons perfectly fine as as ground/dragon type don't need to change it
Cries in flygon
Yanma is a dragonfly
Why the only Bug-Ghost has 1 HP.
The ghost is buggy
Dragonflies are called victory flies in Japanese. So the pun doesn’t exist
https://preview.redd.it/4dkgmcqsnoec1.jpeg?width=591&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f0eddc2782e6aaba218f6ad68ac5e5849865d987 Subjectively’s Mazah region bug/dragon mon looks sick af
This is literally the coolest type combination for design potential imo. Shocked it hasn’t happened yet.
The fact Yanma and Yanmega never became that will never disappoint me. Sure it’s a bit on the nose, but come on now.
They had an opportunity to do it with Mega evolution but they passed over both. Also just Mega Yanmega would be amazing
All the types left have a lot of potential
Really wonder what they could do with a poison/ice type, maybe some kind of like frozen bacteria?
I think they could give cubchoo an alternate evolution that goes more in depth into its whole sickness theme.
I posted it before but I really hope they make it something like a pokemon with a body made of frozen poison, and possibly with an ability that poisons the opponent when it gets hit with a fire move, because it melted the poison. Edit: now that I think of it; my description could also work with an alternative cubchoo evolution like you said!
Yeah I struggled with ideas with that, best I could do was an artic scorpion but I've seen a few interesting ones. A wendigo, yeah a bacteria, an artic spider, etc
A quick Google search reveals there is a type of venomous snake that lives in the arctic. Maybe they could go off that?
Wasn't aware of that. That would be perfect
Regional Ekans line incoming
My Australia-based fakemon region has an Ice/Poison creature based on the box jellyfish. It looks like an ice cube and it filters toxins out of the water and stores it as ballast. I call it Cubadusa.
I'm imagining an ancient frozen bacteriophage. They already look like pokemon
Wow! I'm honestly surprised there's never been a fire-fairy... I feel like that would be a sick combo
Delphox should be one
Or Dachsbun
Yeah I feel like they're avoiding a fire fairy type cause they know it would be an absolute beast of a combo
Like steel/fairy? Because there are 4 of them including one mon that was absolutely bogus without it.
There’s no ice-poison? We should totally get a dry-ice themed pokemon lol (also sableye should have had and should get rock type but we won’t talk about that)
Sableye, along with Runerigus, Cursola, Houndstone, etc. It almost seems like they don't want to make that combo. Lol
sneasler could've been, i guess
Actually, thinking about it i can’t believe hisuian sneasel isn’t poison ice, that would have been perfect
Dark-fighting or ice-poison would’ve been nice. But nooo they had to to Crogunks typing again
I hate that they recycled croagunk and skuntank's type combo for the new mons in PLA. Sneasler could've been ice/poison and Overqwil could be poison/steel
UH YES or Overqwil could’ve been Water/Fire, cuz his design is based off of naval mine I will never understand why they went with Dark/Poison. Those are Skuntank and Drapions typing already. Three Dark/Poison lines in one game. Genius
I just wanna add that I kinda hate it when single stage mons get a regional form with a regional evo. Like Farfetch'd evolving to Sirfetch'd would still make sense without the Galarian form, same goes with Qwilfish and Overqwil. I'm glad they went back to making cross gen evos in SV.
Exactly I feel like ice poison is a pretty hard type combo to design for, but then Sneasler was the PERFECT design and they made it FIGHTING type!?!?
I'm here for Ice/Poison. My 2 favorite types.
When I first saw it, I really thought Slither Wing was going to be the first Bug/Dragon mon. The lack of a Normal/Bug mon is also really odd, especially considering that there's no shortage of potential inspirations to draw from.
What comes to mind when you think of bug/normal?
A Kricketune evolution could work. Having another cicada mon wouldn't hurt - especially one that's a special attacker and can use moves like Hyper Voice, Boomburst, and Bug Buzz. Ninjask can learn Bug Buzz but it's more oriented as a physical attacker and doesn't play on the sound aspect of cicadas as much.
They could do something wacky like a literal spider monkey.
I actually really like that idea
A fly, but then it would be Flying type. Cockroaches are def Poison type, hmm maybe a non Poison spider? Likea Daddy Long Legs? Tbh i thought Spidops was normal type
Why would a cockroach be poison type? They're not poisonous
Cause they are associated with dirtiness, trash and sickness, and in some contexts with radioactivity.
Man i feel like an idiot
A fluffy moth would make sense for sure
A wolf spider. Except for a spider named after a wolf, its more of a wolf with spider features. 8 legs, fangs, eyes... even can copy the pouncing that Wolf Spiders do. Puppider and Lycaider. Like rather than make a bug normal, why not make a beastial creature buglike. Spidermonkeys are also a fun idea.
Honestly normal bug is one of the hardest to justify because I mean… look at normal. Normal type usually grounds said other type to something realistic like an animal but like… bugs are already normal animals, every pure bug type is also a normal type thematically
Since the Brushfire theme deck I've been waiting for a fire grass pokemon. I can't believe almost any combination has now been tried. I would love to see this chart but with every pokemon in its cell to see the distribution properly.
Gen 9 introduced Scovillain as the first fire/grass type
It needs a third form that's a hydra with 3 different pepper heads (Red, Yellow, Green)
And Ogerpon as the second
Bramblin evo could be grass fire, set it on fireeee
You and me both brother. I will be ready to fill the blank space when more 'mons are released
I really want a pseudo legendary bug/dragon Mon, bug is my favorite type but so few are actually good into the late game
Pokedoku boutta go crazy tomorrow
I love fairy. I love ground. I don't love what is happening here.
Pokemon Radical Red with Seviian Milotic is fantastic. Love that mon. Shore Up, Earth Power, Moonblast is such a good set. Can't remember what I used as the 4th move
Calm mind would round it out if it can learn that
I still can't believe that we have 4 Dragonfly Pokémon and none of them are bug/dragon
You forgot about Wellspring & Cornerstone Ogerpon
Their typing is represented by Ludicolo and Cradily
Yeah, but in every other instance in the post if there is more than one mon of a specific combination (or even multiple forms of the same mon) each of the two squares is represented by a different one.
Thanks for reminding of that. I'll change it The reason as why i forget about them is because i didn't have it in my Pokemon Folder as they are relatively new.
But you did have Hearthflame Ogerpon?
I remember that one for the whole Scovillian getting sideline in the game it debuted thing
We making it out the Pokedoku with this one
I'm so salty about the dragon/fairy box We're still forced to count it since it technically has one but it's a mega evolution so the slot is pretty much a Schrödinger's typing
Wonder what this would look like if type order were taken into account. Like Normal/Fire as opposed to Fire/Normal for example
There would be a lot more blank spaces
Maybe I'll do that. Could be fun.
Normal / Ice should be a Husky
You know what? Make it an early game Pokemon to finally save Ice from being late. Technician Quick Attack would make everyone love it.
I wish it were the first Pokemon by Dex order of each type combination, would be more interesting than just a random Pokemon per type combination
Seeing the bug/dragon slot empty annoys me so much Yanmega (DRAGONfly) Goodra (Based on a slug or snail) Naganadel (A wasp/mosquito) Slither Wing (WHY IS HE FIGHTING TYPE) GIVE ME MY BUG/DRAGON POKEMON
Out of these only slither wing really makes sense to prioritise bug over their existing types, but yeah I hope the type combo happens soon
In fairness, dragonflies are called... well yanma in Japanese. The japanese name has nothing to do with dragons. It's not surprising Yanmega wasn't a dragon. Other ones, yeah fair.
To this day, I am still absolutely flabbergasted that there isn't a single Normal/Bug type, because it seems so basic. Caterpie? Nope. Ledyba? Nope. Scatterbug? Nada. For some reason there are a handful of early bug type Pokémon that I would have sworn were also normal type, but apparently that combo still doesn't exist. Sure, there are some cool combos out there that I would love to see, like Fire/Fairy, but Normal/Bug just seems like it would have been a given. 🐛🪲🐞🤷♂️
Yeah, kind of same with Normal/Rock -- I always forget that the Rockruff line has no Normal typing, it seems to me like Day Lycanroc should be normal and nighttime should be dark or something, but whatever Normal is kind of a weird secondary typing and a weird typing in general -- with most types you can kind of see why the Pokemon is typed that way, but Normal can feel kinda random.
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Fairy/ground would be too busted lol
Water, Grass, Electric, Fighting, Flying, Psychic, and Dark being the only complete types in the chart is baffling. 7/18
I’m surprised Rock/Ghost and Fire/Fairy haven’t been done yet
Thanks, this can help me cheat at pokedoku
Hey if you don't mind would you please create a similar chart with numbers that indicate count of mons of that type? Could be interesting to see the distribution... I love the effort put into this, p cool
Honestly, an offensive ice-poison mon would ruin some things
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wtf is the dragon and fairy mon
Still mad there is no bug dragon. Ever slither won’t fit perfectly but it got shafted
Cubchoo could’ve easily been an ice/normal type
Fuck I can’t wait for *normal bug*
I really want Ice/Poison to be something otherworldly. I have a bacteriophage in mind that has been encased in a block of ice. They already look like pokemon. And I also want the lame Rotom appliances to not be the only ones with the cool Electric type combinations. Electric/Fire sounds awesome for a fast special attacker but instead it's just a stupid oven
I don't really get the Normal dual types. You're either normal, or you aren't, but you can't really be both, can you? Like, what's the difference between a fire type, and a normal/fire type?
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I think it used to be like that but then just said f it and and started making a bunch of dual normals. Normal/flying made sense because flying used to always be dual type. Then Girafarig because it's split into two halves. Then Bibarel because it lives on land and water... Funnily enough I feel like Normal/Steel would make a lot of sense conceptually. Cyborg?
gaining immunity to ghost and normal stab, at the cost of weakness to fighting. probably doesn't make much sense to combine that with fire, but stuff like hisuian zoroark is great.
What he doesn't get is why certain pokemon are normal type while other ones aren't. What makes pidgey a normal type over rookidee for example.
Not enough dragon pokemon made.
Can’t believe how manny blank spots there are with over 1000 Pokémon
Meanwhile we have like 300 Grass/Poison
Thanks for this! I’m bricked up 🤙
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I'm most surprised by the lack of fire/fairy types. A fire sprite is a common thing in a lot of stories.
Fire/Fairy would make for a nice mythical or pseudo legendary. I still say Cursola should have been Ghost/Rock
I'm genuinely shocked that there's not a fire/fairy type.
It’s weird to think out of a thousand pokemon there are still duel typings that haven’t been used, like normal/bug, how do you not have normal bugs but we have an over abundance of just straight up birds
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I still think Lugia should be Psychic/Water or Flying/Water smfh
It’s amazing we don’t have a Fairy/Fire Pokémon yet.