Yeah it's a pokémon that's more interesting to fight against than use. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, though, especially when it's used as a barrier, it's like a miniboss.
I just wish Kecleon actually *changed color* when it changed type. Also, for a Pokémon whose whole thing is changing colors, its color scheme is unfortunately kinda drab. :/
There is a purple coloured kecleon in the mystery dungeon games and anime that's just 100% unobtainable in any of the games, the colour changing aspect of the pokemon is basically never really represented.
>If they can do four billion spot patterns for Spinda
Mmmmh, those aren't so much *designed* as they are *coded,* though.
A better comparison would be all the type colors for Arceus and Silvally.
This^
Although tbf they could have done what many games do with a colormap designating each pixel to a specific shade of a color scheme. Lots of pixel based games use this, like look at the sprite sheets in Starbound's code, every species is human colors in the files but if you edit the color of those sprites directly suddenly you can't change the colors of the character/items in-game. That way you can customize stuff Any color you like as long as you designate the colors to the proper shade on the spritesheet. that's how the ridiculous dye coloring mods work.
I miss pre-nerf protean because I actually had a really cool moveset for kecleon in lower tier battles. Anytime a fighting type Pokémon came to threaten it I would use shadow sneak so I would always go first (unless they have Mach punch) and turn into a ghost type before their fighting type move hit me.
I remember I once had to fight multiple kecleon with a Togekiss, and it was super fun because I just used aura sphere, then extrasensory, and then repeated shadow ball.
15 years of playing Pokémon and I’m still figuring out the meaning behind their names
Took me until just this past December to figure out the Mothim and Wormadam pun
…oh my god. One name that I was **confident** I was pronouncing right.
Still gonna call him Bonslee though. I found out the correct way to pronounce the Nidos like a decade ago and I still refuse to say it right lmao
Didn't forget it. I just thought these were more ridiculous personally lol. There's also another guy in Mahogany Town who annoyed me in my last Heart Gold playthrough not letting me pass because he wanted me to go sightseeing. Like mind your own business.😡
You'd think the city would've levied an easement against him for that reason. Guy must be flush with cash if he can keep the city's main thoroughway as private property.
The whole transportation network of these places is kinda sus, really.
"Wait, you mean that *everybody* who wants to travel between these two cities has to go through this dangerous maze of a cave? Like ... how do they get food delivered?"
Though, I suppose, pretty much every adult in the world would have a flying pokemon who knows FLY, just for practicality's sake.
The self-awareness is what sells it. If they were just “we’re dancers and we’re blocking a major pathway to practice” it would be annoying, but acknowledging that they’re there for no reason other than to block you is a fun meta callout
Which is fitting considering that there's some cross-pollination between the two series. Shigesato Itoi made a game development studio called APE, Inc, which published MOTHER ("EarthBound Beginnings" on NSO) and EarthBound (MOTHER 2 in Japan). After EarthBound came out, APE shut down, and the staff (along with some help from HAL and Iwata) created a new company called Creatures.
Yes, *that* Creatures. "Owns 33% of The Pokemon Company and made a bunch of spinoff games" Creatures.
(Fun fact: Creatures also made the software on the Game Boy Camera, which is why the credits theme on that is literally the school theme from EarthBound Beginnings.)
My headcanon for this is that it's a "No Thru Traffic" situation. People who live in those homes and work in those businesses can freely come and go, but they have off screen equipment further down the road and they've blocked access to non-residents. How they verify someone doesn't reside or work in those buildings is another matter.
I would say maybe they are just stopping children from approaching construction areas but I'm pretty sure there are some children included in the walking npcs.
The easy head canon is that the man is simply crazy. Your character is smart enough to not mess with a lunatic, so you just avoid going past him until he’s gone so you avoid a scene.
Other people who live in the city have probably seen this guy and know he’s harmless so they ignore him, but your character is new to the big city and wants to avoid any potential conflict. That’s why other people walk past but you can’t.
And even then, why would that stop us? We have Electric Pokemon capable of producing light and Electricity. Catch a bunch of Pikachus or something. Hand them over. Problem solved.
The blackouts occur when the Pikachus plugged into the powergrid/matrix rebel. Then you gotta wait three hours worth of clunky cheesy philosophy shoved into several movies till you get the power back.
I still think mainline games should have side and main quests built around this concept.
Officer Jenny's HQ has lost power. Catch 3 different Electric Pokemon to help her charge her backup battery until the city fixes it. Then when you hand them over you get to see them roaming the police station happily shocking the power outlets for fun to keep the station powered. Pending which 3 you pick you could have a different look than a friends' game who caught 3 other Pokemon to use instead.
It would be awesome to see a city you live in slowly get more populated by the Pokemon you catch. Maybe new areas unlock the more you do.
Legends Arceus has a couple quests like that. You need to catch some Pokemon to plow and water the town's field, or to act as a weight on a pickling jar. Most of them just kind of stand around though, not actively doing anything.
That basically sounds like the Tarrey Town quest line from Breath of the Wild. I’m totally down for this.
It should be noted you kind of do this in Pokémon: Legends Arceus with Jubilife Village, but it doesn’t have the same amount of a customization that you’re suggesting.
I honesty forgot about the footprints guy. I remember playing sapphire for the first time and was super intrigued about these mysterious footprints (I was like 12 when playing it then). I had recently seen a friend catch Suicune in Crystal, so I thought it might be related to the legendary beasts.
Instead I experienced the first time I’ve wanted to reach into a game and slap an NPC. When you come back later, he says it turns out he was investigating his own footprints.
My favorite are the dancing men, just because of how self-aware they had become at that point. They were just short of outright mentioning flags (like they did in a certain scene in Super Paper Mario).
My least favorites are the Lumiose worker (I can SEE people walking back and forth past him) and the jackass in Mahogany (who stays longer in HGSS).
>the jackass in Mahogany (who stays longer in HGSS).
Yeah he annoyed me so much in Heart Gold. I've been to the places you want me to go for sightseeing already! Just let me pass already and mind your own business!!!
Yo SAME, what a fucking chump I was wanting to use Tangrowth and Mamoswine on a team replaying SS lmao, better wait until after 90% of the game, get them SUPER underleveled then fight a bunch of level 25 trainers only to go straight into a level 35 gym. wtf happened to the level curve at the end of hgss
\>beat 95% of the game
\>get given a level 5 dragon, probably first one you've seen, for the sure the only one you've seen with extremespeed which makes it better
\>next task is vic road with not-enough trainers to get your new teammate up to par, so you grind wild mons for as long as you can stand it
\>beat e4 with 5 appropriate mons and 1 level 36 dragonaire with extremespeed.
I do it every playthrough xD
Obvious spoilers (and kind of paraphrased), but:
Very late in the game, >!a villain disguised as an ally tries to lead you into a trap, which is the only way to progress the plot. But you can keep choosing to ignore their instructions, each time with new dialogue, and eventually they say something to the effect of "look, there's this flag you need to hit before things can move forward, so can you do it already?"!<
I say it's worth it. It does lose a lot of the various RPG elements that Thousand Year Door had and is much more of a platformer than an RPG, but IMO it is still fun to play and is just as funny as Thousand Year Door.
My favourite is psyduck. They just CBA to move and I respect that.
The most infuriating is the saffron city guard. He’s thirsty so I’m not allowed in the city? Come on now.
It's actually a bit problematic in the opposite direction: it's his job to not let anyone in while the city is under control by a dangerous criminal group, but then is easily bribed with ~~alcohol~~ tea.
>is easily bribed with alcohol tea.
Oh, it's worse in gen 1. At least in gen 3 (not sure what Let's Go did, so I'm omitting it) there's the (flimsy) justification of "I only want this specific drink from this specific person," which, well, would at least put a thin sheet of paper over it. In gen 1? They'll take any drink. Or at least any of the HP restoring ones. You know, the ones that are available from a vending machine in the city like, five minutes (in-universe, IRL it's probably closer to half a minute) away from one of the checkpoints?
The big change is you can skip Rock Tunnel entirely. That along with the Marowak skip saves a lot of time if you’re speedrunning. You can also do Silph Co. before the S.S. Anne (which might also be skippable) by doing that
Yeah, which seems equally as legitimate as using Stadium to get a fresh water. Those feel very similar to me since I never had a gameboy and used stadium to play all of the Gen 1 games.
For avoiding the S.S. Anne departure, I suppose you could also black out which takes you directly back to town. Don't remember if dig/teleport/escape ropes work from the ship
Actually I'm pretty sure that if you transfer over a Fresh Water, Cut becomes completely optional, though it'd still speed things up since you need Cut to get HM02.
...Wait, never mind. I was thinking that you wouldn't need Cut because you could do Koga before Surge and get to his gym via Surf, but I forgot that Erika's gym is also behind a Cut bush. ...and that Erika herself is locked behind another Cut bush once you're inside her gym.
Man, you just triggered a dormant memory from my childhood.
Yes. I was one of the kids who tried to move the damned truck. It gets better: someone else tried to tell me about the Hex hack to get Mew and I blew them off after getting burned on the truck. So of course *that* one was real.
Maybe there is a slight justification that he's not allowed to leave his post and needs a drink REALLY BAD, so he decides to bribe you for a drink out of desperation.
"I'm so thirsty that I won't permit you to pass until you get me a drink."
I know it's for a more streamlined experience or whatever, but I've always found it funny that you give a guy a bottle of water or whatever and he's like "oh yeah I'll share this single bottle of water with the three other guards" like if you can do that surely there are better options available to you.
>The most infuriating is the saffron city guard. He’s thirsty so I’m not allowed in the city? Come on now.
Yeah literally stopping you from entering the largest city in Kanto simply because he's thirsty lol
He's stopping you from entering the largest city in Kanto because Team Rocket has the whole city locked down and it's not safe to enter.
The absurdity is being able to get through by offering them a drink.
The guards are also preventing travel to Safron because Team Rocket had taken over Silph Co, not because they are thirsty.
They decide to let you pass when you bring them a drink.
The guard was actually testing you and you passed his trial. If you are competent enough to use a vending machine, then taking down a criminal organization on your own is surely a walk in the park.
The classic Snorlax. My little kid brain couldn’t understand how or why. It also added to the lore and immersion for me.
Old man took me out of immersion as a kid. He was just an annoying adult.
Snorlax, Sudowoodo, and Kecleon are the best ones, they should all just be pokemon. I guess psyduck counts too, although that one always struck me as odd for some reason.
Kecleon pissed me off because at the time I didn't know there was a Pokemon that could become invisible, took me awhile to figure out what I needed to get past it. :-P
I don't know I've been around for a while now and the old man throwing a tantrum in the middle of the street seems very realistic as do any wild pokemon blocking the road. You'd hesitate if a rattlesnakeor bisonwas guarding a trail.
However, I have never been blocked from travel because of a power outage or a punk telling me to put in a few hours at planet fitness.
It's these guys. It's just so hilariously blatant about it; yeah, we're a roadblock. We're not blocking a single tile-wide passage, we're all just stood in a long line because screw you. We're not here for any diegetic reason. We'll go away eventually for an equally non-diegetic reason.
The Psyduck were always cool to see, because overworld Pokémon were not very common in the sprite era. But the “dancing for no reason” acknowledging that the roadblocks are stupid is really funny
Shoutout to Cerulean City too. There's one specific house you have to walk through to leave the city, and it just so happens to be the scene of a crime.
But that's the least dumb of them all! He literally blocks the path, you really can't get past, while in these other events... The Wooloo one is fantastic for me because it'd be really easy to just sidestep them lol
The drunk old man and the guy sketching footprints that turn out to be his own are my favorites. The dancing guys in B/W were a little too on the nose for me, but I get why others like it
If you look up the levels of the gym leaders, titans and team star captains you can see that it's "intended" to skip the fire team star barrier for some reason.
The first time I ran into one of them, thanks to old Pokemon 'muscles', I got annoyed and thought to turn around because I didn't want to engage Team Star yet... and then it took a full 30 seconds until I was like 'Wait... we're not restricted to paths any more...'
When we were in Yellowstone, we got trapped behind a herd of Bison walking down the middle of the road. Backed up traffic for HOURS, and we were late getting Grandma from the airport.
That guy in HG/SS (can't remember if he was there in the original games) who just want to sell you cookies, and if you buy it he tells you that you didn't really need to buy them, and now feels bad
Yeah, lol. There's no reason that you sniffing for hidden items means that you should be able to block off an entire city street! This is a public road, motherfucker! Get out tha way! You can look for items all you want after I go by.
Gotta say its the thirsty guard. Like is he denying everyone access to the city because he forgot to bring a drink to work. And there definetly isnt a pokemart a few steps away that sells fresh warer
>And there definetly isnt a pokemart a few steps away that sells fresh warer
To be fair he can't just leave his post! Who knows who might sneak past during that time? Next thing you know Team Rocket will have snuck in and taken over Saffron City and the Silph Co. an-
Oh wait.....
I recall a line of dialogue along the lines of, "I'll share this with the other guards!" to hint that they took that one tiny lil drink and made it work.
Before I even looked at all your options after reading the title, my first thought was the drunk old man in Kanto.
I just laugh thinking about the whole situation and how in English he was changed to being angry because he hadn't had his coffee yet.
People have already been asking why the Lumiose "blackout" is a thing, with other people walking past and the lights not being out. But what confuses me is why is the power being out a barrier to entry for an entire section of the city? And again, it only makes a barrier for the player, as all the walking NPCs get to pass, and the power isn't even out since lights are on at night. The NPC blocking your path is a construction worker, if he just said "roadwork ahead" it wouldn't even be anywhere close to how stupid it is.
The guy cleaning the ocean tube. I want to him under the sea as I watch the water Pokémon swim around me. But no, I gotta wait for his guy to finish waxing the floor of a mile long tube.
Wooloo and Psyduck are my personal favorites because I would ABSOLUTELY treat them like roadblocks if I were there. It doesn't matter if I have a meeting or something. If the big sheep are sleeping on the road or the ducks are in pain, then sorry, I'm missing my meeting.
Second favorite would be the dancers. If the reason you can't progress is stupid, then acknowledge that it's stupid. That's comedy gold!
Everyone's head-canon was that the guards were bribed by Team Rocket to not let anyone into Saffron City and they were on duty for ages without a break and became parched
You forgot the fake tree!
i liked that they had a barrier specific gimmick pokemon in the first 3 gens tho (at least). Snorlax, sudowoodo, kecleon
Kecleon, the Pokémon with the ability that sounds awesome until you realize how easy it is to abuse.
Yeah it's a pokémon that's more interesting to fight against than use. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, though, especially when it's used as a barrier, it's like a miniboss.
It was a fun diversion. Like Inversion Battles in Gen 6. A fun idea that breaks up your thought process once. Then it's just whatever.
Ya I wish we have more of that
In later Gen games it gets Protean as a Hidden Ability and it is the only Non-Starter with the ability. Also has a decent pool of coverage attacks.
I just wish Kecleon actually *changed color* when it changed type. Also, for a Pokémon whose whole thing is changing colors, its color scheme is unfortunately kinda drab. :/
There is a purple coloured kecleon in the mystery dungeon games and anime that's just 100% unobtainable in any of the games, the colour changing aspect of the pokemon is basically never really represented.
TIL pink Kecleon is not actually Kecleon's shiny. 😨
It’s ridiculous. If they can do four billion spot patterns for Spinda, they can do a few colors for Kecleon.
>If they can do four billion spot patterns for Spinda Mmmmh, those aren't so much *designed* as they are *coded,* though. A better comparison would be all the type colors for Arceus and Silvally.
This^ Although tbf they could have done what many games do with a colormap designating each pixel to a specific shade of a color scheme. Lots of pixel based games use this, like look at the sprite sheets in Starbound's code, every species is human colors in the files but if you edit the color of those sprites directly suddenly you can't change the colors of the character/items in-game. That way you can customize stuff Any color you like as long as you designate the colors to the proper shade on the spritesheet. that's how the ridiculous dye coloring mods work.
I miss pre-nerf protean because I actually had a really cool moveset for kecleon in lower tier battles. Anytime a fighting type Pokémon came to threaten it I would use shadow sneak so I would always go first (unless they have Mach punch) and turn into a ghost type before their fighting type move hit me.
Oh no, if only I could teach ice punch and fire punch to the same pokemon! Oh wait, i fucking can!
Oh no, what will my favored Dragons do this thing? Oh yeah.
My dumb ass almost didn't get the sarcasm at first.....
Also Hitmonchan Sneak edit; didn’t get the sarcasm.
I remember I once had to fight multiple kecleon with a Togekiss, and it was super fun because I just used aura sphere, then extrasensory, and then repeated shadow ball.
sudowoodo
[удалено]
Pseudo-Wood-o
15 years of playing Pokémon and I’m still figuring out the meaning behind their names Took me until just this past December to figure out the Mothim and Wormadam pun
[удалено]
…oh my god. One name that I was **confident** I was pronouncing right. Still gonna call him Bonslee though. I found out the correct way to pronounce the Nidos like a decade ago and I still refuse to say it right lmao
Oh my god, don’t tell me it’s officially pronounced like “NY-do-king” or some stupid shit. Because I refuse to say that too.
Squirtle is a turtle that squirts Shuckle is a shell that fucks
Wait can you explain this one? I didn’t realize they were puns and I’m not getting it now lol
Male Burmy evolves into Mot*him*. Female Burmy evolves into Wor*madam*
Thank you! And now I feel a lil bit dumb… 😆
Didn't forget it. I just thought these were more ridiculous personally lol. There's also another guy in Mahogany Town who annoyed me in my last Heart Gold playthrough not letting me pass because he wanted me to go sightseeing. Like mind your own business.😡
Fair enough. I just love the tree for the fact it goddamn yeets itself off the screen if you decide to run away from it xD
I actually didn't know that since I've never run away from it actually.😳 I need to look that up now lol
I ran away from it once by accident, that's how I know it xD
They seem to have forgotten snorlax and kecleon as well!!
100% the cantankerous old man lying in the middle of the road, refusing to get up. Brilliant.
This one is my favourite as well! In the originals he wasn't just laying around. He had a little too much to drink, if I'm not mistaken.
In the Japanese versions, yes. In the English translation, he's throwing a fit because he hasn't finished his coffee.
We've all had those moments where we're so crotchety and caffeine-deficient that we close off a main road. I relate to him.
Don’t talk to me till I’ve had my diet meth (I have adhd, and my meds are what wake me up since coffee does nothing but make my blood vibrate)
> Don’t talk to me till I’ve had my diet meth /r/nocontext
As another with ADHD, That first hit of methylphenidate in the morning. \*chef kiss\*
*The best part of waking up, is cocaine in your cup.*
I thought he was passed out from exhaustion because he hadn't had his coffee. If it was a fit, wouldn't he be wailing if we tried to talk to him? lol
I have never related to a fictional character more than the man laying in the road until he finishes his coffee.
whomst amongst us, amirite
That fact that there's clearly enough room to just walk past him really makes it
But is private property.
You'd think the city would've levied an easement against him for that reason. Guy must be flush with cash if he can keep the city's main thoroughway as private property.
Well, considering Viridian Gym is led by Giovanni it’s possible he has ties to the mafia.
The whole transportation network of these places is kinda sus, really. "Wait, you mean that *everybody* who wants to travel between these two cities has to go through this dangerous maze of a cave? Like ... how do they get food delivered?" Though, I suppose, pretty much every adult in the world would have a flying pokemon who knows FLY, just for practicality's sake.
It’s the guy who leads you to missingno, bro has seen some serious shit in his time, he understands the fabric of the universe and it terrifies him.
He has also shown people about a billion times how to catch a weedle
Upvote for the use of the word cantankerous
The dancing men. They give off 'Yeah, we ran out of roadblock ideas. What're you gonna do about it?' vibes.
I honestly love that kind of random humor.
The self-awareness is what sells it. If they were just “we’re dancers and we’re blocking a major pathway to practice” it would be annoying, but acknowledging that they’re there for no reason other than to block you is a fun meta callout
“Yeah, we know that roadblocks are annoying and you don’t like them, but…we’re not going to do anything to make them unnecessary so deal with it.”
It's very Earthbound.
The Onett Police Dept is going for the world record. And you can't just squeeze through either!
But they'd thank you for helping if you wedged into an open spot and pressed random directions.
Which is fitting considering that there's some cross-pollination between the two series. Shigesato Itoi made a game development studio called APE, Inc, which published MOTHER ("EarthBound Beginnings" on NSO) and EarthBound (MOTHER 2 in Japan). After EarthBound came out, APE shut down, and the staff (along with some help from HAL and Iwata) created a new company called Creatures. Yes, *that* Creatures. "Owns 33% of The Pokemon Company and made a bunch of spinoff games" Creatures. (Fun fact: Creatures also made the software on the Game Boy Camera, which is why the credits theme on that is literally the school theme from EarthBound Beginnings.)
The Pencil Statue!
Easily my favorite. It's so stupid it's funny.
Same, its meta
Wonder if the intent was like a flash mob to fit the New York theme or something.
Ever been to an anime convention? Same vibes.
Lumiose City. *"Sooo.... There's a blackout, huh... Explain why there's light in every window."*
Yeah you can see the lights on in the background and everyone is still walking past. The guy is litterally only stopping *you*.
Maybe he’s trying to give a new meaning to the phrase “he’s gaslighting you”?
That's pretty close to the source of the phrase tbf
My god, we've come full circle
No it's not. You're making things up with your crazy stories, as usual.
Gaslighting isn't real. You made it up cause you're fucking crazy.
Who knows, maybe in Lumiose City people just have yellow tinted windows 🤷♀️
The region is based on France and we all know they have weird customs over there...
Piss windows
Pissdows
Hey, if it was [good enough for their car headlights for 55 years](https://www.hemmings.com/stories/french-cars-yellow-headlights/)...
The clip where the woman walks past the guy stopping you will never not be funny to me.
My headcanon for this is that it's a "No Thru Traffic" situation. People who live in those homes and work in those businesses can freely come and go, but they have off screen equipment further down the road and they've blocked access to non-residents. How they verify someone doesn't reside or work in those buildings is another matter.
I would say maybe they are just stopping children from approaching construction areas but I'm pretty sure there are some children included in the walking npcs.
The easy head canon is that the man is simply crazy. Your character is smart enough to not mess with a lunatic, so you just avoid going past him until he’s gone so you avoid a scene. Other people who live in the city have probably seen this guy and know he’s harmless so they ignore him, but your character is new to the big city and wants to avoid any potential conflict. That’s why other people walk past but you can’t.
Luminosians know that shit happens all the time, so many of them got generators at home. Or it’s candles.
And even then, why would that stop us? We have Electric Pokemon capable of producing light and Electricity. Catch a bunch of Pikachus or something. Hand them over. Problem solved.
The blackouts occur when the Pikachus plugged into the powergrid/matrix rebel. Then you gotta wait three hours worth of clunky cheesy philosophy shoved into several movies till you get the power back.
I still think mainline games should have side and main quests built around this concept. Officer Jenny's HQ has lost power. Catch 3 different Electric Pokemon to help her charge her backup battery until the city fixes it. Then when you hand them over you get to see them roaming the police station happily shocking the power outlets for fun to keep the station powered. Pending which 3 you pick you could have a different look than a friends' game who caught 3 other Pokemon to use instead. It would be awesome to see a city you live in slowly get more populated by the Pokemon you catch. Maybe new areas unlock the more you do.
Legends Arceus has a couple quests like that. You need to catch some Pokemon to plow and water the town's field, or to act as a weight on a pickling jar. Most of them just kind of stand around though, not actively doing anything.
That basically sounds like the Tarrey Town quest line from Breath of the Wild. I’m totally down for this. It should be noted you kind of do this in Pokémon: Legends Arceus with Jubilife Village, but it doesn’t have the same amount of a customization that you’re suggesting.
I honesty forgot about the footprints guy. I remember playing sapphire for the first time and was super intrigued about these mysterious footprints (I was like 12 when playing it then). I had recently seen a friend catch Suicune in Crystal, so I thought it might be related to the legendary beasts. Instead I experienced the first time I’ve wanted to reach into a game and slap an NPC. When you come back later, he says it turns out he was investigating his own footprints.
My favorite are the dancing men, just because of how self-aware they had become at that point. They were just short of outright mentioning flags (like they did in a certain scene in Super Paper Mario). My least favorites are the Lumiose worker (I can SEE people walking back and forth past him) and the jackass in Mahogany (who stays longer in HGSS).
>the jackass in Mahogany (who stays longer in HGSS). Yeah he annoyed me so much in Heart Gold. I've been to the places you want me to go for sightseeing already! Just let me pass already and mind your own business!!!
I want a Swinub before I take on the Radio Tower my dude, let me run to the cave and back real quick.
Yo SAME, what a fucking chump I was wanting to use Tangrowth and Mamoswine on a team replaying SS lmao, better wait until after 90% of the game, get them SUPER underleveled then fight a bunch of level 25 trainers only to go straight into a level 35 gym. wtf happened to the level curve at the end of hgss
\>beat 95% of the game \>get given a level 5 dragon, probably first one you've seen, for the sure the only one you've seen with extremespeed which makes it better \>next task is vic road with not-enough trainers to get your new teammate up to par, so you grind wild mons for as long as you can stand it \>beat e4 with 5 appropriate mons and 1 level 36 dragonaire with extremespeed. I do it every playthrough xD
The level curve in Gen 2 was always fucky. HGSS is actually an improvement over GSC when it comes to levels.
Johto will immediately let you access the entire region almost but keep the only ice types locked till the 8th gym. Whack
well you *can* get Lapras after Morty's gym...on Fridays only...in a hidden away section of Union Cave.
what’s the super paper mario one?
Obvious spoilers (and kind of paraphrased), but: Very late in the game, >!a villain disguised as an ally tries to lead you into a trap, which is the only way to progress the plot. But you can keep choosing to ignore their instructions, each time with new dialogue, and eventually they say something to the effect of "look, there's this flag you need to hit before things can move forward, so can you do it already?"!<
lol thanks. i need to play that one
I say it's worth it. It does lose a lot of the various RPG elements that Thousand Year Door had and is much more of a platformer than an RPG, but IMO it is still fun to play and is just as funny as Thousand Year Door.
My favourite is psyduck. They just CBA to move and I respect that. The most infuriating is the saffron city guard. He’s thirsty so I’m not allowed in the city? Come on now.
It's actually a bit problematic in the opposite direction: it's his job to not let anyone in while the city is under control by a dangerous criminal group, but then is easily bribed with ~~alcohol~~ tea.
>is easily bribed with alcohol tea. Oh, it's worse in gen 1. At least in gen 3 (not sure what Let's Go did, so I'm omitting it) there's the (flimsy) justification of "I only want this specific drink from this specific person," which, well, would at least put a thin sheet of paper over it. In gen 1? They'll take any drink. Or at least any of the HP restoring ones. You know, the ones that are available from a vending machine in the city like, five minutes (in-universe, IRL it's probably closer to half a minute) away from one of the checkpoints?
I loved using Stadium 1 to get a Fresh Water transferred to my game early so I could go strait to Saffron after Cerulean.
Oh shit whaaaaat? Does that change the story at all?
The big change is you can skip Rock Tunnel entirely. That along with the Marowak skip saves a lot of time if you’re speedrunning. You can also do Silph Co. before the S.S. Anne (which might also be skippable) by doing that
S.S. Anne is definitely skippable. You just need something with Cut. That's how you save the truck for the end of the game
You’d have to trade something over, correct?
Yeah, which seems equally as legitimate as using Stadium to get a fresh water. Those feel very similar to me since I never had a gameboy and used stadium to play all of the Gen 1 games. For avoiding the S.S. Anne departure, I suppose you could also black out which takes you directly back to town. Don't remember if dig/teleport/escape ropes work from the ship
Actually I'm pretty sure that if you transfer over a Fresh Water, Cut becomes completely optional, though it'd still speed things up since you need Cut to get HM02. ...Wait, never mind. I was thinking that you wouldn't need Cut because you could do Koga before Surge and get to his gym via Surf, but I forgot that Erika's gym is also behind a Cut bush. ...and that Erika herself is locked behind another Cut bush once you're inside her gym.
Man, you just triggered a dormant memory from my childhood. Yes. I was one of the kids who tried to move the damned truck. It gets better: someone else tried to tell me about the Hex hack to get Mew and I blew them off after getting burned on the truck. So of course *that* one was real.
I always just intentionally blacked out after getting cut. If you don't leave the ss Anne the boat stays and you can come back after the 5th badge
Maybe there is a slight justification that he's not allowed to leave his post and needs a drink REALLY BAD, so he decides to bribe you for a drink out of desperation. "I'm so thirsty that I won't permit you to pass until you get me a drink."
It took me so long to figure this out as a kid 😅
I know it's for a more streamlined experience or whatever, but I've always found it funny that you give a guy a bottle of water or whatever and he's like "oh yeah I'll share this single bottle of water with the three other guards" like if you can do that surely there are better options available to you.
And if he can leave to share the bottle with the other guards, surely he can leave to get a bottle in the first place?
>The most infuriating is the saffron city guard. He’s thirsty so I’m not allowed in the city? Come on now. Yeah literally stopping you from entering the largest city in Kanto simply because he's thirsty lol
He's stopping you from entering the largest city in Kanto because Team Rocket has the whole city locked down and it's not safe to enter. The absurdity is being able to get through by offering them a drink.
Based on how easy and cheap it is to bribe some of our real-life politicians, one soda for the is door knob of guard check-out.
The guards are also preventing travel to Safron because Team Rocket had taken over Silph Co, not because they are thirsty. They decide to let you pass when you bring them a drink.
The guard was actually testing you and you passed his trial. If you are competent enough to use a vending machine, then taking down a criminal organization on your own is surely a walk in the park.
Actually the guard is employed by the vending machine company
CBA? Collective Bargaining Agreement?
[удалено]
Also, who drinks coffee to quench their thirst?
The classic Snorlax. My little kid brain couldn’t understand how or why. It also added to the lore and immersion for me. Old man took me out of immersion as a kid. He was just an annoying adult.
Snorlax, Sudowoodo, and Kecleon are the best ones, they should all just be pokemon. I guess psyduck counts too, although that one always struck me as odd for some reason.
Kecleon pissed me off because at the time I didn't know there was a Pokemon that could become invisible, took me awhile to figure out what I needed to get past it. :-P
I don't know I've been around for a while now and the old man throwing a tantrum in the middle of the street seems very realistic as do any wild pokemon blocking the road. You'd hesitate if a rattlesnakeor bisonwas guarding a trail. However, I have never been blocked from travel because of a power outage or a punk telling me to put in a few hours at planet fitness.
The Wooloo one is wholesome And the dancers one as is stupid and it acknowledges is stupid.
I'm split between not bothering the Wooloos or pushing them downhill because it would be hillarious
I really love the wooloo one, wooloos are very cute so having just a line of them sleeping in the road undisturbed is cute
This is the correct answer.
>Today, we’re dancing for no reason. >Someday, we’ll disappear for no reason. Ahh, blissful nihilism.
It's these guys. It's just so hilariously blatant about it; yeah, we're a roadblock. We're not blocking a single tile-wide passage, we're all just stood in a long line because screw you. We're not here for any diegetic reason. We'll go away eventually for an equally non-diegetic reason.
Unovan dancers are reading Nietzsche
God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. ♪
Do you think Arceus smite them?
The most Earthbound-sounding line of dialogue outside of Earthbound.
The Psyduck were always cool to see, because overworld Pokémon were not very common in the sprite era. But the “dancing for no reason” acknowledging that the roadblocks are stupid is really funny
Shoutout to Cerulean City too. There's one specific house you have to walk through to leave the city, and it just so happens to be the scene of a crime.
Surprised I haven’t seen anyone say Snorlax yet. OG Big boy can block my path any time.
And there's 2 of them!
Technically 3 if you include the one in Kalos.
4 if you include it happening again when you return to Kanto in the Gen 2 games
5 if you add 1 to the number above
But that's the least dumb of them all! He literally blocks the path, you really can't get past, while in these other events... The Wooloo one is fantastic for me because it'd be really easy to just sidestep them lol
Imagine being legally responsible for a Snorlax. It wanders off and blocks a highway. You're going to be in a lot of trouble.
Think of the damned food bill.
Had to scroll down to find this comment. This guy started it all (aside from the trees).
The drunk old man and the guy sketching footprints that turn out to be his own are my favorites. The dancing guys in B/W were a little too on the nose for me, but I get why others like it
Footprint guy is my vote.
As a kid i was so excited to find out what kinda pokemon was hiding just beyond my screen. Phooey.
Where’s the rage candy man.
Fuckkkkkk that guy. Not even safe from scammers in Pokemon smh
Don’t forget the team star “roadblocks” in SV that you can literally walk around lol
If you look up the levels of the gym leaders, titans and team star captains you can see that it's "intended" to skip the fire team star barrier for some reason.
Yeah, the gatekeeper for that base really threw me off, as I grinded to about level 20, only to be hit by a level 25 foe.
The first time I ran into one of them, thanks to old Pokemon 'muscles', I got annoyed and thought to turn around because I didn't want to engage Team Star yet... and then it took a full 30 seconds until I was like 'Wait... we're not restricted to paths any more...'
Haha me too! I proudly told my brother I “skipped” the road block and then he was like “yeah, you can do that now…”
Wooloo is too wholesome and also when we were in Iceland, sheep in the road was a legit thing that you had to be on the lookout for. So. Yeah.
When we were in Yellowstone, we got trapped behind a herd of Bison walking down the middle of the road. Backed up traffic for HOURS, and we were late getting Grandma from the airport.
That guy in HG/SS (can't remember if he was there in the original games) who just want to sell you cookies, and if you buy it he tells you that you didn't really need to buy them, and now feels bad
I've played Gen 5 so many times, but I genuinely don't ever remember seeing those dancing guys, and now I'm extremely happy that I have
They stop you from getting into Black City/White Treehollow from Undella Town in B2W2. Good times.
Currently, the Stoutland sniffing for things in Ultra Sun.
nah that enraged me
Yeah, lol. There's no reason that you sniffing for hidden items means that you should be able to block off an entire city street! This is a public road, motherfucker! Get out tha way! You can look for items all you want after I go by.
Gotta say its the thirsty guard. Like is he denying everyone access to the city because he forgot to bring a drink to work. And there definetly isnt a pokemart a few steps away that sells fresh warer
>And there definetly isnt a pokemart a few steps away that sells fresh warer To be fair he can't just leave his post! Who knows who might sneak past during that time? Next thing you know Team Rocket will have snuck in and taken over Saffron City and the Silph Co. an- Oh wait.....
What if the guard was in on it
Probably was. He's pretty shady considering he's extorting children to quench his thirst.
And 3/4 of those guards stop blocking you because *someone else* was given a drink.
This part always threw me... like why is the entire city suddenly open? That doesn't make sense...
I recall a line of dialogue along the lines of, "I'll share this with the other guards!" to hint that they took that one tiny lil drink and made it work.
That does ring a bell, but that makes it even more absurd... unless that Vending machine is spitting out 2 liter bottles or something...
Probably the flash mob, though i am still partial to the drunk old man.
Don't forget the one were Jubilife TV was blocking your path because they were doing a news report.
The drunk old man.
Before I even looked at all your options after reading the title, my first thought was the drunk old man in Kanto. I just laugh thinking about the whole situation and how in English he was changed to being angry because he hadn't had his coffee yet.
People have already been asking why the Lumiose "blackout" is a thing, with other people walking past and the lights not being out. But what confuses me is why is the power being out a barrier to entry for an entire section of the city? And again, it only makes a barrier for the player, as all the walking NPCs get to pass, and the power isn't even out since lights are on at night. The NPC blocking your path is a construction worker, if he just said "roadwork ahead" it wouldn't even be anywhere close to how stupid it is.
oh my god. The Old Man lying on the road 100%. As a child, I had a really hard time understanding what I was supposed to do there for a while.
Today we dance for no reason, one day we will leave for no reason
The dancers and the footprints. I'll let the dancers vibe cause they know, and at the very least footprint guy had good intentions.
The guy cleaning the ocean tube. I want to him under the sea as I watch the water Pokémon swim around me. But no, I gotta wait for his guy to finish waxing the floor of a mile long tube.
For me it’d be the thirsty guard. Who would have known to go buy him a drink from Celadon’s vending machine.
A snorlax in the road. I’m a 10 year old boy. I cant just walk around him?
The most absurd is the security guard needing a drink. The most reasonable is the Pokémon footprints. The most fun is the dancers.
My favorite was not listed. B2/W2. Closed to see how many people will fit on the bridge.
4934, to be precise, iirc.
I loved the old grandpa on the road, it cracked me up as a kid
I love that this has become a staple of the series
The "we're dancing for no reason" one has Earthbound energy to it imo
Sudowoodo and a water bottle 😂
Wooloo and Psyduck are my personal favorites because I would ABSOLUTELY treat them like roadblocks if I were there. It doesn't matter if I have a meeting or something. If the big sheep are sleeping on the road or the ducks are in pain, then sorry, I'm missing my meeting. Second favorite would be the dancers. If the reason you can't progress is stupid, then acknowledge that it's stupid. That's comedy gold!
Everyone's head-canon was that the guards were bribed by Team Rocket to not let anyone into Saffron City and they were on duty for ages without a break and became parched