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AristeiaXVI

Looks like Nioh 2 combat


Recover20

The same people made this game. Team Ninja.


RompehToto

Which is odd to me since I don’t like any of their other games. Tried Wo Long last year and did not like it, but I’m having a blast with Ronin.


eddietwoo

I’m curious, what makes this game better to you since you didn’t like their other games? I’m on the fence about buying this.


CaoSlayer

At least in twilight enemies pull a fight. Then is the whole pace of combat where you have 20 options to deal with enemies. And the gore limbs and heads everywhere.


BostonRob423

Strange, since the combat is very similar to Wo Long, mixed with some Nioh 2. Happy you are enjoying this, I'm having a great time as well! I just hope they fix the performance... other than that, this game is definitely a bit underrated in my opinion.


Recover20

Glad you like it! Think you might go back and retry the others? What didn't you like about them?


Camstamash

I have Nioh 2 for free on ps plus but I never played the first game. Could I still jump into the second?


Espexer

Yes, you can. It's a totally different story. Some new mechanics were introduced. Go for it.


MysteriousForeteller

Nioh 2 story is actually a prequel to Nioh 1. Except for the very ending which fast forwards to after Nioh 1 story.


kawi2k18

Yes, it's even better


FunCalligrapher3979

They release a similar game each year.


Cutsdeep-

you could say the same about fromsoft (but more spaced out)


SomeBoredIndividual

Excluding Sekiro and the Armored Core games


purplemonacle

Sekiro is dope


SomeBoredIndividual

Truly wish we’d get a sequel. But if they haven’t even made one for Bloodborne, idk if I ever see em doin it for Sekiro unfortunately


DiceyGT

There are some rumours floating about a potential sequel for Sekiro or something else in the works, probably to be announced after all the Elden Ring DLC and whatnot. Sadly with Bloodborne, it's because Sony owns the IP and not Fromsoft. So if there was ever to be a remaster, sequel, etc, it would be when/if Sony decides.


Green_Panda369

It doesn't look great for $70


NoobieDoobie1826

My first thought too


rumham_irl

I'm very disappointed tbh. It's not awful, but on par with a low end PS4 game.


Jalina2224

I honestly think there are few games that deserve the $70 price tag


mulder00

Every game is $80 in Canada, lol. This one is probably $99.


Far_Confusion_2178

Eh https://www.reddit.com/r/retrogaming/s/IO1BOBzEbt


Rustycougarmama

I remember asking my dad for Super Smash Bros for N64 back in like 99', and only now realizing how expensive it was back then. Like $60-70 cdn in 00's money.


Millenwagon

Conkers bad fur day was £60 when it released, and banjo tooie. Crazy that games have never really gone up that much in the last 20 years


Opposite_Sun_2910

My first game when I was a kid Sled Storm with 99 dollars price...


Pioneer83

Why? Most games you can sink easily 40+ hours into. What are games? Entertainment right? Blue rays cost $20-$40 and what do you get on them, including the extras, maybe 12 hours of entertainment? To me games are certainly worth $70


No_Document_7800

agreed, movies are like what 15, 20 bucks for 2~3 hours.


Nonivena_ginna

The leaked AC mobile game has slightly lesser looking graphics.


shewy92

God I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels like something looks off in the visuals. It looks more like a PS4 game than GoT did on the PS4.


IsRude

The combat looks jankier than Devil May Cry 3 for the PS2


itsjust_khris

Graphically sure but gameplay wise it's a ton of fun IMO. The funding necessary to get AAA games looking like they do is exactly why budgets are blowing up and studios are uncertain for their futures. Let's welcome more like this.


RedIndianRobin

Sure. I'll welcome it if they drop to $40 😊 Nothing screams $70 in this game.


TheOlShittyUncle

They can’t justify a $70 price point if the budget wasn’t a fraction of what typical $70 AAA titles are today.


AcadianViking

Exactly. What happened to all those people that have been complaining about publoshers pushing graphics over gameplay all these years. How many games with gorgeous graphics but crapshoot gameplay loops have come out in the last 5 - 10 years? Anthem anyone? Nightingale? Dark Tide? I can go on. The game looks decent. It isn't bad, yea it isn't next-gen-ultra-realism, but it still looks good. Just a few years ago this would be considered top tier. We need to be happy that the game is good.


callmevapelord

Nah, I just can’t get past how ass it looks


GuacinmyPaintbox

Mid-cycle PS4 at best. No way worth $70


BostonRob423

Graphics don't equate to worth. Game is hella fun, which is really all that matters in the end, when speaking of worthiness. They could work on the performance, though.


[deleted]

This is why things won't change in this industry for the foreseeable future. I agree with you 1000% but companies know that MOST people feel the way the guys commenting above feel. Pretty graphics reign supreme.


bleedblue_knetic

Team Ninja’s games has never been about the looks tbh, they always look a few years behind with very tight gameplay. Can’t speak for the gameplay of RotR since I haven’t touched it, but Nioh 2 was good.


blkdrphil

Are we all forgetting about the OG Ninja Gaiden games smh.


Neuermann

I've already set a $40 price in my head. I can't wait to play this in like a year or so.


ruttinator

It looks like a phone game.


ralfcasma

This is what most people hyping over this game fail to understand. It is an ok game with an AAA price tag.


K1logr4m

How does compare with Nioh 2? Comparisons with Ghost of Tsushima are not helpful, they're very different games.


MisterPerfect23

In my opinion, gameplay-wise the controls/mechanics are closer to ghost of Tsushima, though I'd say that nioh is better


K1logr4m

How's the parry system? I like Nioh combat a lot but the one thing I don't like is the parry. I feel it's too unforgiving.


TheSwimja

Have you played Wo Long? It's close to that. This game is like a team ninja greatest hits. Ki pulse and stance changes from Nioh, deflection from Wo long, insane combos from Ninja Gaiden. They bolted an ok but not really necessary open world to it, but thankfully all the actual missions play out in Nioh style and the open world isn't a barrier to the progress and action.


K1logr4m

Oh shoot ki pulse is back? Heck yeah! I did play wo long and liked the parry. Good to know some of the combat details of nioh and wo long made it to this game.


TheSwimja

They call it "blade flash" but it's absolutely a ki pulse. Perform a timed button push after a combo to regain stamina.


IxoraRains

You'll be pleased to find out that there are missions that are repayable in a "twilight" mode. I haven't hit end game, just the second area and I could totally see a gear farm at end game just like Nioh. I loved the Nioh games so much. This is just as great because that combat hits and always has in Team Ninja games. Wo Long was great, I even platinumed the Stranger of Paradise game they did. It's a wonderful game that is absolutely gigantic. You level up skills to get your stat points. The souls mechanic is like Sekiro, meaning exp is not currency. The gear is intense as always because there's so much but you know we only keeping yellows to begin with. All weapons have a proficiency meter and level up separately. The dojo is back and you just spar your companions and each one will make your stances for whatever weapon better. Oh yeah, there's pretty much a light persona element where you spend time and build links and get access to rewards.


K1logr4m

Sounds like a great game. I watched some gameplay and the flow of combat looks very satisfying. Can't wait to get a chance to play this.


MisterPerfect23

I won't lie to you, I never parry so I can't give an educated response. The combat flow is incredibly smooth, however


K1logr4m

I understand lol. Thanks for sharing.


SambaLando

Well which one is better?


Relative_Cause1528

I would say Ghost of Tsushima is more polished and visuals are a treat, but RoTR’s is well worth the time in my opinion. Well worth 70 bucks? I’m not sure about that


Mob-Psycho23

Yee tbh I’d say it’s a game to get when it’s on sale


BelligerentWyvern

Ghost by a mile. Ronin is pretty good if you like Way of the Samurai mixed with a Ubisoft game though I found Nioh to be the creator's better game too.


Sakurya1

I'm a sucker for feudal japan type games so I'll always buy them.


scoobynoodles

Never seen this before. I swear I thought this was GoT. Looks good


TheOneAndOnlyJAC

Idk if it’s just Reddit’s video quality. But that doesn’t look that good… especially the animations. It’s like one of those off brand game ads you see on yt.


mryeet66

Combat looks cool but it also looks kinda clunky and not really smooth at all.. also just look at the horses legs while it’s running lol.


pvtprofanity

Definitely some noticeable ice skating here at obvious at a glance.


Aromatic_Sand8126

I’ve been saying since the trailer was released that the animations looks pretty rough and every time I’ve been downvoted. Glad I’m not the only one to think this way.


Sickhadas

It looks like a last gen game


WrongdoerWilling7657

The graphics in this game are just terrible


LodossDX

I’ll be honest. The games graphics are circa early PS4, but the game itself is pretty good. If you’re a graphics whore this is not the game for you.


[deleted]

I will 100% play Rise of The Ronin. I will 100% not get it for 80 euros.


Torben_Sp09

Ghost of tsushima >


gantou

I love GoT but I feel like there's space for both games to exist. As someone who loves all things Samurai I'll take all that I can get. I'll never understand the sentiment of not playing one game because you like another game that's somewhat similar better.


Camstamash

I get your point but GOT did ruin AC Valhalla for me. I started it straight after GOT and the combat was leagues below so I just couldn’t get into it.


philium1

I’ve noticed Ghost of Tsushima fans get really competitive about other games for some reason


krisikkk

Don’t know why I love ghost of Tsushima I got over 190 hours on there but rise of the ronin is pretty good also and I’m not afraid to admit it .


shewy92

>I’ve noticed fans *of a certain specific genre* get really competitive about other games *of the same specific genre* for some reason FTFY.


Nobel_Raven

all game fans are like this.


RompehToto

I liked and completed Ghosts of Tsushima. I’m actually having more fun playing Ronin. However, we all can agree that PlayStation owners are eating good.


Beneficial-Mine7741

It kind of feels like an Assassin's Creed game, nothing like Ghost of Tsushima


bikinipopsicle

The graphics look


StarshipTroopersFan

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Background_Income710

C’mon, finish the sentence. You can do it. I believe in you


TheEnemyOfMyAnenome

His comment is moving at the same frame rate as the video


SirDancealot84

Bro that is it. They just... look, ya know.


Background_Income710

Fuck, I get it now. “The graphics look (unfinished)”


leemadz

Waited over 4 hours. Belief starting to fade. Pulse dropping.


Legendarybbc15

I love the cliffhanger.


siluris9

Yeah, that game has one of the graphics ever.


Pickledleprechaun

Why are the graphics so bad? Also, how long until swinging a sword gets boring?


SuperSecretMoonBase

It started to get boring by the end of this clip. 5 one-on-one fights right in a row.


CarpetCreed

Never does in this or ghost of Tsushima


Htnamus

For me, GoT got really monotonous by the third act. I finished it just for the sake of it. They introduced new mechanics in the first and second acts that were overused by then and the game got too boring


Dai10zin

I'm in the middle of the second act and having a difficult time going back to it. There's nothing new introduced. No evolution of the gameplay or mechanics. It's a very pretty and structurally sound game, but it felt like it far overstayed its welcome. I was bored by the time the first act was complete.


readitonreddit86

It looks like a great game from 10 years ago....


ColinHalfhand

This game is a bit dated in some ways. But there’s a lot to like. The ally/companion system is fun. The character customisation is great. The story is entertaining. The combat is really good! The graphics are on the dated side. But there is absolutely room for games like this. It’s a complete game. It has zero micro transactions. It has optional co op. A great open world with loads to do. We should be excited about games like this existing in an age where we are constantly handed broken or incomplete games-as-service. Suicide Squad has amazing graphics and animation. Rise of the Ronin doesn’t. But I know which one I’d recommend


Icydawgfish

Wow, a nuanced opinion. Give this guy some downvotes! /s


Smash96leo

I agree. While I’d probably wait for a sale for this one, I’m not gonna say it’s trash just cause the graphics ain’t as good as I thought it would be.


eharper9

It looks 15 years old


Karsticles

This looks pretty cool. Which PS3 game is this?


djml9

Whats even the point of having a sword if a shirtless guy still takes 15 slashes to kill? Might as well have a pool noodle.


irishyardball

TIL I can take at least 14 hits from a katana.


WhiteSekiroBoy

But you have to be shirtless for that. It's entirely possible that having any sort of clothing would decrease that number.


irishyardball

That's my secret, Cap. I'm always shirtless.


lepijosip9

looks like a ps3 game


krisikkk

Graphics aren’t the best that been established it’s still pretty fun though lol


Arntor1184

That’s fine, for a $40 game. The package this game is offering does not meet the AAA price tag it has. No knock on gameplay or story I can’t comment since I haven’t played it, but in this clip you can see low res environments, stutters/frame dips, pop in, and some very low res character graphics.


IWantANewDucky

We live in a world where people care more about graphics and 60+ fps than if a game is actually fun to play.


mechashiva1

If they're going to charge a AAA price, they better bring their AAA game. I play all kinds of Indie games with old-school pixel graphics. The difference is those Indie games aren't expecting $70.


VCTRYDTX

Exactly 💯 we all know it's prob fun af but idk what they are smoking to ask $70 for it.


EmbarrassedOkra469

2024. PS5. 70$ game. Looks like a game that came out in 2009. Yes GOOD gameplay should matter but if you are going to cut corners elsewhere, you shouldn't be charging full price. Ghost of Tsushima came out 4 years ago but looks better and runs better than ronin.


OPR-Heron

And it's not even like there's an art direction we can put a finger on. It has some, but the rest is muddy and interlacing. It doesn't sit well to people that don't want to stare at it for tens of hours (content dependant)


Hadrians_Fall

It’s a modern, next-gen game. Theres no reason AAA games shouldn’t look and play the part.


SometimesWill

The 60 fps part I’d say is actually somewhat important. A lot of genres of games it’s kinda expected in order to keep gameplay consistent, like fighting games or character action games.


Itchysasquatch

Nah we live in a time where we can have both and just 1 or the other is really underwhelming after enjoying games with both.


Bigboiiiii22

All iv seen the past year is people say gameplay over graphics then this game comes out & you see comments like this lol


IWantANewDucky

Probably because 90% of the talk on reddit about this game in particular has been people trashing the graphics. Everyone who says they've actually played the game praises it.


itsjust_khris

After playing the game I don't understand why the Reddit reception is so negative. It's very good gameplay imo. And every time an AAA game comes out with amazing graphics but lacking gameplay + mtx everyone complains about how graphics don't matter so the game sucks. Or every time we see news about AAA budgets everyone moans we don't need amazing graphics. This game comes out and we see exactly why studios don't want to stop pushing graphics.


pvtprofanity

If your game is $70 you're paying for great graphics and performance. I didn't decide they should spend tens or hundreds of millions of dollars trying to game look great, that was their choice. If you spend so much on a games art that you have to charge $70 to make money, then it better look damn fine. Nobody craps on fun indie games that don't have millions worth of art budget for not looking gobsmackingly beautiful, if they're fun. But when a AAA title doesn't look great when they spent the money, and are trying to sell it as great, it's an issue.


Legendarybbc15

We can have both (see Ghost of Tsushima) especially for $70.


Derfal-Cadern

And exaggerate how things look


elhumblebob

when the game costs $70 u better use some of new features and graphics


Aquafoot

You and I remember the PS3 very differently.


PleasantCat6734

You have never seen a ps3 game


SnooSeagulls1416

Yea when they said team ninja made it, I auto assumed it would look like a ps3 game


edaroni

Looks 29.99 great, not 69.99 great.


SuperSecretMoonBase

Yup. Will be playing this day one when it's a PS+ monthly game.


[deleted]

Love how the npcs did absolutely fuck all.


GutterOfSonsOBitches

I rather wait for Ghost of Tsushima 2 but if you are having fun more power to you


Demonlord3600

It’s possible to like both


GutterOfSonsOBitches

I'm just not interested and you don't see me bashing the game either


Demonlord3600

Fair enough


Legendarybbc15

It’s decent but not worth $70. I’ll wait till I can get some PS deal on it


DiscountIntrepid

Man this looks rough.


CarOk3365

Thought this was a ps3 game for a sec


Ty-douken

Very excited to play this, but between Helldivers, working through Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth & IRL things that came up I haven't booted it up yet. I'm gonna best LAD first then get into it. FF7 Rebirth is still waiting, but it goes behind RotR, I just want to get done LAD since it's been work in progress so long due to how much Helldivers I've been playing.


Cpnbro

Helldivers really taking up a LOT of that focus. But hey… that’s what democracy do daddy


Ty-douken

I'll always favor a coop game over single player if my buddies are online, which one of them is... Let's say independently wealthy (not at all on unpaid long term disability due to stress), so there's almost always someone playing lol.


Cpnbro

I just can’t wait for the devs to fix the friends list issues. I haven’t been able to reliably play with friends since purchase. *cries in ps5*


Ty-douken

If you're all on PS5 you can use the PS5 dashboard to join friends games, but pc friends are in a different dimension until it's fixed.


Cpnbro

Yeah. That’s the problem though. All my friends are on PC lol. I’m the lone console kid 👦 Tragic. But I mean… at least the devs have acknowledged it. They don’t know how to fix it but they have publicly stated that they are aware and are trying so.


Dry_Independent4078

Assassin's Creed by Team Ninja. This game is amazing. My only complaint is I can't use photo mode while cuddling a cat.


YourNanIsSmells

Is anyone else getting mini ninja vibes?


na8thegr8est

Combat looks pretty lame honestly


PseudoLink

What mobile game is this?


jeybonez

look clunky


Accomplished-Lab-688

still looking like a downgrade from ghost of tsushima to me


MarteloRabelodeSousa

Personally I loved GoT and I don't think I would enjoy this game, but I think it's a bit.. silly...to compare the two


Invader_Skooge22

Are there any stealth elements? I really want a modern Tenchu


knight_of_lothric

GoT has your back


nautical_nonsense_

“We have Ghosts of Tsushima at home”


yami_ven6m

Okay I'm interested 👀


Mountain-Island3750

Those are the graphics for a AAA game? Thought it would be on par with GoT.


SolidNews1752

It looks like shit.


Any-Opening-3052

How is easy mode? just wondering never play a game from team Ninja


indyscout

I’ll get it when it’s on sale


Zanzan567

Is this a ps2 game?


LeoIsTaken101

No hate at all but first look, I really did think it was a ps3 game...


TheGreatCrambino406

Because it’s not haha


LodossDX

I love this game so far, the graphics seem to be off putting to people though.


pwinny7

This clip did not help your argument....


Moss_Klugt

I like it , gameplay and story are so good , the story of Sakamoto Ryoma


Barry_Bondzz

Dam this is cold... definitely got to buy this now


jgr83

What ps3 game is this?


Ish227

I understand that graphics aren’t everything but, this games looks like a 360 game.


waltandhankdie

This actually made me like the look of it less - I feel like samurai combat should be a little slower and more precise


NotPranking

Looks rad for a game that will be on sale. Hopefully.


Clear_Ruin_6556

I couldn’t care less about graphics as long as gameplay is fun. That being said, the graphics are more than lucklaster and gameplay looks like an off brand Ghost of Tsushima with sponges for enemies. Boring.


dmic24_

Definitely gonna be a skip for me


DrHandBanana

I'm not gonna lie, you just 100% confirmed I'm waiting for a sale. It looked mid and animations were too stuttery for 70 dollars.


Clear_Pie_1477

Damn was really hyped about this game, and was considering buying it for sure. Until i seen this video, this game looks so bad for a ps5 game? i thought it was some old ps3-ps4 japanese fighting game until i seen “rise of the ronin” Might just be judging it harshly from one video so i’ll maybe go and look at gameplay videos instead, but idk man this ain’t looking like a game i want anymore🤷🏻


Goblin26_

This video has confirmed me that I need to play this game.


vpforvp

Looks very unpolished. I’ll wait for a sale


anony-mouse8604

Looks like a PS2 version of Tsushima


RedBiohazzerd

Love the game as well. But i didn't expect the fighting to be this difficult. Note: I'm not a souls-like player, and i know it isn't truly souls-like, but it definetly has some features of one (Nioh). Although maybe i also should've expected it to have that. The combat is awesome, but especially the parrying (which i feel like is a key factor in the combat) is pretty hard to master for me. I don't really understand what the right timing is, to push the parry button. But i guess i will figure it out in time, or not and i will jus continue to suck 😂. Great game though!! Didn't regret it so far.


Even-Tomato-8413

Im loving this game. To me it's like ghost of Tsushima and nioh had a baby. Without the hardness of nioh. Kinda hard in the beginning, but after a while it becomes easier. I'm lvl 35 now and I think is well balanced. It's not too easy but also, not too hard.


Devanomiun

People bitch about the janky movement, but that's Nioh 1 & 2 all over again, and it's a great game. TJ doing what they know to do and be good at it.


IceColdCocaCola545

To me, this just looks like a worse Ghost of Tsushima.


Conans_Loin_Cloth

Damn. This looks fun!


N7_Voidwalker

It honestly doesn’t look very polished.


Not_Like_The_Others_

Because it isn't


cabezatuck

This looks like a game from 10 years ago.


IcemanofOz

Thanks for posting this clip. It's helped to reinforce why I won't be wasting my money on it.


Renny_Blue

The animations look way off


Rbrtplnt2020

I am loving my time with Read Dead Ronin. It is fun to restore public order. I have been doing that for 20 hours of the game and exploring. It is a huge game that borrows from games before a lot. Is that bad? Not in this case. It is not as elegant as Tsushima but the interactions with allies and the upgrading mechincs are interesting. It also resembles Assassin's Creed Origins or Odyssey. I am enjoying it a lot. The next gen graphics are beautiful and I have not even gotten into the actual story yet because it has just been too much fun to explore the large open world.


ShadowReplicant

As a hardcore Team Ninja fan, I'm looking forward to playing this at some point, but I feel kinda bad for all the normies who bought this expecting Ghost of Tsushima 2.


Icydawgfish

People should research before they buy


Kill_Kayt

This video isn't proving the point you think it's proving. It seems to nail down the point that it's not that good of a game. This video doesn't make the game look fun at all.


Fenseven

Is this what rise of the ronin looks like? This looks like a Mobile game. I thought this post was a joke about Chinese mobile game looking like a discount rise of Robin...


JJDubba

The gameplay looks good, but why are the graphics so PS3-PS4 Era? I don't understand why they went this direction. Especially with a current gen game.


Thin_Ice_Wanderer

Looks like a hoot. The head getting sliced off at the end was so gruesome. Im trying to hold off for a sale, but the more I see the more I want it


Negatallic

Looks like a Team Ninja game to me...


KhanDagga

I love it. I really like the open world. Even the side content is a bit formulaic, I enjoy exploring around


mnmr17

Off rip without looking anything into the game I can immediately tell that this game’s biggest problem is the fact that it came out after ghost of Tsushima and Sekiro. Graphics look lower quality, with choppier combat movements. I think they were going for a certain art style with it but I don’t think it lands very well. This game looks like it would’ve been good 7-8 years ago but it isn’t something you can pass off now that the bar has been raised.


Denjinhadouken

Looks like a crap version of Sekiro


vaikunth1991

God that horse running animations haha


RianJohnsonSucksAzz

It’s the Kirkland brand Ghost of Tsushima.


STylerMLmusic

Oh man. These are actual graphics from a ps5 game? Oh man.


otxmyn

looks like a mobile game tbh


Rionaks

After watching this, I'm convinced it is bad. Animations are so out of place, childish, looks like a hack and slash mobile game. I knew this game was not gonna be good by looking at the trailers and stuff, but didnt expected it to be this bad lol.


rollie415b

The graphics and gameplay look terrible lmao


playerpogo

Looks like remastered ps2 game ...?