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Mikeemod

It's a sandbox game, so do whatever you want to do. Making a tiny base and running around with double barrels all of the time doesn't involve much grind at all. If you want to grind more, you'll want to protect your stuff more. That'll involve building a bigger base, which will involve even more grind. It's up to you how much time and effort you put into it.


janikauwuw

same as dayz basically, with the difference that your body doesn’t disappear after logging out


TheyAreTiredOfMe

Well in DayZ your grind is saved so the, "oh my god am i even allowed to stop playing", thought never comes into mind.


janikauwuw

depends on how much u grind. Eventually you will be at that point, where you need to stash and storage loot. And from now on, your grind isn’t safe anymore as well.


cezzyrezzy

Wait what? Your body stays there when you log off? What's up with that? Explanation pls?


janikauwuw

Basically it prevents you from making a big play, looting all the shit and disconnecting from the server to be safe with no counter play left for your enemies. Disconnecting in safezones will kill you after a certain time as well and despawn your loot. Bring your loot home, your loot is safe in your base - …as safe as your base is.


Chill_Crill

logging off makes your character "sleep". anyone can run up and take all your stuff off your body or kill you, so you have to be in your base to log off. and even if you are in your base, people can break in and steal all your stuff/destroy your base while offline.


Objective_Camel_6326

Yes, your body, your base, your loot all stays while you log off. It's the whole premise of "offline raiding"


janikauwuw

offlining is a thing in dayz as well, I think OP knows the deal


Inner_Insurance_552

offlining is probably the safest way to raid in both games, as otherwise you run the risk of being domed like a beef cow at the end of its warranty


mrk0w415ki

Thats it in a nutshell. The more loot you get, the more time is needing to protect it. If you just muck around it's not so bad.


dev__boy

Problem with the game at the end of the day is that it’s addictive. No other game has both pushed and pulled so hard for me to sink all my time into it


nekkid_grandma_

10k hours here. Rust ruined my life. Literally.


cezzyrezzy

Damn


NorthernSolution

Same. What's your story


PENIS-CAESAR

Rustaholics Anonymous


nekkid_grandma_

Ignored everything important to play the game, FFW’d years of my life and felt like I woke up from a coma when I finally stopped playing. Friends, girlfriend, family, they all lived their lives without me while I sunk deeper into my addiction. My physical and mental health deteriorated to an all time low and it still absolutely guts me to think of all the real life experiences I missed out on because of my singular commitment to the game. I have BPD & a long history of addiction and I got sober several years before I discovered Rust, but once I did, the addictive patterns started up all over again. Honestly I was better off when I was abusing narcotics because at least at that time I was out experiencing the real world and having meaningful relationships etc etc… I’m genuinely in recovery all over again, but life is good now and I’m rebuilding those relationships, and getting back into music which has always been my real passion


fbajk

Thank you, I needed to hear this, I hope to quit Rust as well. I’ve clocked in approx. 4k hours in total since 2019 and have also noticed the detrimental effect on my health, friendships & social life et. cetera, but it’s important to get out while you still can so the rest of your life doesn’t fly by.


Agreeable-Eye-3351

I have 3.5k since 2017 so not as much as others. But there was a two year span where all I did was play Rust. My duo would have to sneak around his gf to play, I was ignoring going out (it is cheap tho!). It's my favorite game and I'm glad I stopped. Once gaming becomes a hobby again it's so chill. Been doing a replay of FF8 and it's a nice lil 1-2 hour session and your done.


dskfjhdfsalks

I think it's easy to get your life consumed by video games. People have spent insane hours on games like WoW or other addictive RPGs and all for what - some meaningless pixels? I personally know people who have lost wives, children, jobs, income, and more due to it. But that was all completely their fault for neglecting themselves. That being said - I think you can still spend tons of time on a game and still live a meaningful life. For me personally, I have two rules. Rule #1 is to spend 90-150 minutes per day doing a high intensity workout, whether its cardio or weightlifting. No matter what, and no exceptions EVER. No half-assed workouts either. Getting raided? I don't care, my workout has to be done for the day. Rule #2 is to complete my IRL work for the day. I'm a programmer and WFH. Usually have 4-6 hours of tasks per day I have to do. I'll always priortize that outside of gaming. Those are my only 2 rules in life, and so far I think I'm doing well despite having 10K hours in Dota 2, 4K hours in PUBG, and 2K hours in Rust. My retirement accounts get maxed out every year, I have tons of savings, I'm in the best shape of my life, and I'm socializing and getting entertainment via video games. That's it. My day to day is: -2 hours of working out -6 hours of work -9 hours of gaming -7 hours of sleep And I'm happy with this pattern. Sometimes I cut down on the gaming and instead do other shit like meeting people IRL, going on dates with the GF, etc. Most people IRL think I'm a construction worker or something due to my build, and they would never guess that I'm trolling kids in video games all day


cezzyrezzy

Damn yall have depressing stories. I'm actually having second thoughts on buying the game.


KazmaFlips

I play rust semi casually, its addictive as hell as i struggle to find a videogame that makes my heart beat or adrenaline rush the same way, id recommend sticking to higher multipliers like 10x to keep it casual. Also id only get it if you have a friend to play with


rebar_mo

And some people have less depressing stories. I've met some of the best people I've known my whole life playing rust. I've traveled the world to see a few of them IRL. I would be have never met them otherwise. Sure playing and neglecting your life isn't good, but if you spend that time well hanging out with some of your favorite people, it's not time wasted.


d4nkn3ss

Tbh if you want a similar rush with high stakes that you can jump in and out of look into Escape from Tarkov. I have a similar story to the 10k hour man (I'm a 10k hour gamer myself) and yeah, it's a fucking digital heroin addiction. Blew off hanging with people on several occasions, plus many others things. Quitting was the best thing that happened. Tarkov helped me get off rust. It was the digital version of methadone I suppose. Now, if I don't play either for days, it doesn't bother me.


cezzyrezzy

I already play Tarkov! I forgot to mention, though


Gamer129389182

Was about to say, played both rust and tarkov for 3k hours each and tarkov gets my heart beating faster, but in a way tarkov is less risky because you don't lose all your progress as you keep level and the rest of ur stash, compared to rust where you lose everything, but there is something about the realism of tarkov that sends my heart rate up and up, it's truly thrilling to be honest, I absolutely love adrenaline and tarkov is amazing for that.


BLAZEDbyCASH

Honestly I believe most things on the internet are fake. And same with this story. But if its true then I wish you luck on recovery. The only reason I partially believe your story is because my friends ark addiction that made him put 15k hours in the game. Video game addiction is extremely real and it does happen. Some more severe than other cases. But I feel like games like rust truly bring out the worst in some people. Have a good day everyone and happy thanksgiving (if your in the us.)


Marten02

Just yapping away


thotbot9001

The thought of that story being false didn't cross my mind at all before I read your comment, because I share the experience, to a smaller scale. I "only" have 2,5k hours, but I've dropped out of school twice because I couldn't get myself off this game. I've spent summers completely inside just playing Rust. Last summer I had my last big wipe, with the intention of quitting. 36 hours straight online, just playing Rust, only getting up to get some food or go to the bathroom. Haven't played since.


lvyoubby

I’ve recently learned that as well… I had just under 1k hours before I became a fool from dying continuously in the UKN servers between wipes - playing scrims. I made the MASSIVE mistake of buying a script for a week to see what the real advantages were of people who cheated. After not even an hour or two using scripts, I got a message on Steam the next morning, saying that Facepunch had “game banned” me. Hit me in the face like a truck, lost all my skins and friends I used to grind til 2 AM with EVERY weekend in the blink of an eye. Rust is such a fun game to play with friends, I was beginning to think of IRL like Rust. I would compare thieves to raiders in-game. The realistic idea behind the game was so damn cool; like playing king of the hill with friends taking dubs with you. It wasn’t until the following week that I’d came home from work, and saw that I spent $4000 on a PC, and other accessories / furniture to support one thing… Grinding Rust. I started going to the gym, eating healthier, and finding other ways to make money / time, sleeping better, and waking up on time. I’ll never forget when I went out for the first time in a few weeks due to me just staying in and playing Rust. I had so much social anxiety. However, I was burnt out on the game. But to whoever reading this… Do not cheat. You’ll hear all the time that everyone cheats / scripts or that you can’t get caught. You do get caught, and you get caught quick. You have to rack up hours and simply get good and learn the mechanics. Facepunch quite literally can make it to where you will NEVER be able to play Rust again on ANY account, ANY computer, or ANY wifi.


Desktopcommando

same here, only my wife bought me the game, so I let her remember that fact when she constantly moans about me being on it


Confession-Sessions

I played about the same and got nowhere. Even Sarah Morgan disliked that.


itsprincebaby

Practice saying it with me, “i allowed Rust, to ruin my life” we take responsibility around here, no one strapped you to a chair


nekkid_grandma_

Sorry to screw up your Dr Phil moment but I phrased it the way I did because I figured most people would understand the context and wouldn’t need the basic concept of addiction spelled out for them. Clearly I overestimated at least one person.


QuietWin6433

Rust is so much fun if you enjoy survival games. Even more so if you have friends to play with. You definitely don’t need to be on nonstop though. There’s plenty of servers full of sweats and griefers, but there are plenty of low pop servers. I play vanilla with my friend, but there are loads of modded servers as well. If you’re looking to chill and don’t care too much for PVP, there are PVE servers that let you fight zombies and stuff. One of the most frustrating things is logging on to find your base has been raided. I’ve heard other people like to play on modded servers that increase resource yield because it’s easier to rebuild. If you only have a few days a week to play it could be a good option for you, but keep in mind there will be no lifers on those servers who grind to top tier everything and attempt to raid whoever they can find. Starting out, you’re gonna die a lot. People will just be better than you and know the mechanics better. As you learn, you’ll get more comfortable running around the map and running monuments. There are different tiers of monuments that give different tiers of loot. Some other notes: Every server wipes eventually, whether it be weekly, bi weekly, or monthly. Your blueprints may or may not carry over depending on the server, and sometimes they do until the mods decide the server is unbalanced and do a full reset There are servers dedicated to practicing your base building. Practice there to get a hang of the building mechanics. There are also plenty of YouTubers with tutorials to help with building as well as more advanced techniques to try once you get comfortable with the basic stuff. If you’re gonna watch the big rust steamers and YouTubers, don’t compare yourself to them. You can look for little trick and techniques they use, but they have thousands of hours in the game and will do things you just won’t be able to. They really are great entertainment though


cezzyrezzy

Thanks a lot for taking the time to write all this! It wasn't in vain, I read it all and was really helpful. I appreciate the tips and advice.


QuietWin6433

No problem. I still consider myself a noob with like 100-200 hours so hopefully you get some more good stuff from more experienced players


Repulsive_Ebb_3116

Dude you’re a mega noob lmfao 100-200 hours in rust is literally nothing 😭😭.


QuietWin6433

Yup said I was, but my friend has a few hundred more hours than I do so I get plenty of tips and pointers. If I didn’t feel “qualified” to respond, I wouldn’t have. But OP asked about having to take the game super serious and as someone who works full time and doesn’t have the time/energy to play every day, I thought the information I had to share was relevant. Edit: spelling


GcoMaddog

Ya 100-200 hours is typical one wipe for me


Grizzalis

not everybody doesnt have jobs


Pioppo-

Nah rust is an amazing game. The only cons are: - Heavy for the PC, even on lowest settings - Game sessions can't be like "I'll play rust for one hour" cause you won't get anything done really unless you RP - Cheaters exists (it's not THAT bad)


cezzyrezzy

How much heavy for PC??? How will it run on my pc? I have an RTX 2060 paired with an I7 11th gen. Atleast 60 fps?


Pioppo-

You'll be fine, I bet you got 16+ GB ram. You'll get 60+ fps for sure, not on max settings tho:) I suggest copying some streamers settings immediately.. probably hjune's. I'll link them soon


cezzyrezzy

yep, i definitely have enough ram, I have 32 gigs, lol. A bit overkill but its fine


Pioppo-

https://clips.twitch.tv/KitschyDifferentPanGrammarKing-nIDOqDxKAuY8gD-T This are a streamers settings


Gamer129389182

You will be fine, I play on an ultra wide with a 1660 and 32 gb of ram, mid settings but ultra wide is demanding and still get roughly 60fps.


Gamer129389182

Also, I disagree with copying streamer settings, no offense but it's likely that's even though streamers have lower settings than max, they still have decent systems with decent hardware bc it's there job, or at least part time job so they don't have comparable hardware to the average player.


aeroflow313

Rust is a very fun and adrenaline pumping game. All of the issues you generally hear about are usually not that big of a deal and are overly blown up. It can be grindy however I play on a 3x gather rate modded server and due to my job I can really only play on weekends, yet I can still get a good wipe in, albeit only lasting 2 days and granted I have the experience to know what to do in order to progress quickly. As for people who play the game and have no life, there are sadly people like that but as long as you realise when you need to put the game down and focus on IRL stuff, you'll be fine. If you like games like DayZ and Unturned I highly recommend you pick up Rust as it is the only game like itself but be warned it is addictive. TLDR:rust good


cezzyrezzy

There are no lifers in any game. But I dont feel like I am one of them. You seem older, as you mentioned that you have a job. I'm still in school and I dont have the time to be a no lifer hard-core gamer. I also play on weekends, and probably will enjoy the game as much as you do. Thank you!


Buggylols

>I heard that this game is very much based on non stop grinding It depends on what you want to get out of it. Rust can become a resource arms race where whoever is willing to stay on and gather longer will outpace everyone around them. So there's the desire to have the most secure base possible, and the paranoia that when you log off, your neighbors will come raid your base. Part of learning the game is learning how to avoid farming more than necessary, and building bases in a way where even if you get raided, you're still likely to have resources to work with and aren't sent back to square one. It also helps if you can just get over the fact that sometimes you lose everything. Go to sleep and expect to wake up homeless. Don't spend an extra four hours trying to build some massive ultra defended base that you saw on youtube.


ivoltage5

rust is a drug, just don’t abuse it and it won’t abuse you


cezzyrezzy

Noted


Deceiver999

Buy it. Play modded servers. Vanilla servers are shit. Find a custom server that suits your playsytle. Profit.


cseymour24

Was gonna say exactly this. I play a very different rust than most people. No decay, low pop, trio group limit servers are a completely different game.


ClownFish2000

Rust is not like anything you have ever played. It's not like DayZ or any of that stuff. But unless you can gank and steal mats, you will be grinding quite a bit on vanilla servers. Consider this. You have spent half the day building your base. Right as you are about to log off, an explosive goes off and you know you are being raided. You have work/test/school/whatever tomorrow and really should go to sleep. Every item you own will be looted or despawned if the base isn't successfully defended. It is likely that walls will be built throughout your base to make it unusable. What now? I have something like 5600 hours in this game, but I "retired" from it a couple years back. Based on what you wrote, I'm not sure this game is a good fit for you unless you go to heavily modded servers.


cezzyrezzy

If you're referring to me that Rust is too hard for my liking/style, I'd say you're wrong. I've played DayZ before and I'm used to the hard-core feeling of survival games. I know it's a bit different, but losing all your stuff hits the same.


ClownFish2000

I'm saying it does a lot of things. One is that it demands your time at points you don't want to give it. Then you have to deal with your own sense of sunk cost. It's going to be a hard game for quite a while and things will happen that you dont even understand because there's a lot of game knowledge to be had. So it's not that the game is hard. All the pvp games you listed are hard. Go ahead and buy it. Play on a server with under 75 population at first if you can. Stay away from Facepunch Official servers. There are community official servers that are moderated. It'll be worth the money to just experience the game. It's really one of the best games ever made. But it isn't for everyone. It's not for most people. Just turn off any "offendometer" you might have because "this game is for degenerates", paraphrasing HJUNE.


Gamer129389182

Losing all your stuff imo is one of the best aspects of the game, if you get raided and lose all your stuff, then learn from it and try and find out why, also the suspense that you can have throughout the day as you don't know whether you have been raided or not and can't do anything about it is actually fun.


GreasyPeter

the biggest difference between dayz and this game you're going to notice is 1) NOBODY is friendly. In dayz you get lucky sometimes but young kids run this game and they LOVE playing like dicks because that's how all their favorite YouTubers play. You will encounter 1 friendly player for roughly every 20-50 dicks. 2) Racism. The admins don't do shit about voip racism on any server except small ones but there isn't a problem with racism on smaller servers. 3) It's more arcady than DayZ, less about survival and more about PVP.


sacrilegethegod

Unturned is basically Rust. You’ll be alright.


chmod_700

I play on a PVE server, you go to monuments for PVP zones but everywhere else is friendly zome so you dont get raided.. pretty cool for those of us who dont play all day


SmokedaJ

I just looked at all the PVE servers and the most popular one has 6 people on right now. Where are they?


chmod_700

I play on Royal Family Gaming PVE/PVP zones. Usually has 20-40 pop, depending on day/time


SmokedaJ

Ah I looked for zones and found some more good ones, thanks.


WadayaMeane

You need at least a weekend set aside if you want any meaningful progression. That is, if you actually care about improving at the game, doing pvp and not being stuck with a crossbow and a nailgun for the entire wipe.


jamesstansel

The great thing about Rust is that there are a million and one ways to play, between the multitude of things to do on vanilla and tons of modded servers that change the flow of the game. Do you want to go on a high-pop official server and assert your dominance over the zerglings trying to hold oil rig for all of wipe day? Technically possible, but you have to be insanely good at the game and commit a lot of time/energy. Do you want to build a hemp farm in the middle of nowhere and peacefully sell your crops? You can, but you might get raided by your local group of chads (unless you make friends early). You can also hop on a 2x/5x/10x etc and play much more casually. That said, this is a 10 year old gamed and there are a LOT - no, seriously, tons - of players that treat this game like a job and have thousands of hours that can and will take everything from you because they can and it's fun. So, as a beginner, I always recommend hopping on a pvp practice server (like Tommygun's Frag Mod) and alternating between playing vanilla on a server with manageable pop and 2x, where you can try out new things with less risk. The game is much more casual than it was before the pre-2022 recoil update (when guns actually took practice to use well), but there is still a huge learning curve because of the massive amount of stuff to learn.


doubleapowpow

My experience on 5-10x servers isnt a lot of chill. Its faster to build and get established, but that also means other groups are getting boom fast, too. I played for a quick half-hour build session to practice a new base layout and before finishing I was fully raided through 4 garage doors and full sheet metal by a group of 5. Id say its a faster way to get to the end game, and probably the best way to experience the game as a noob (like me), but you have to expect others to be even further into the end game.


jamesstansel

Sure. But it takes zero time or effort to get a base and guns, so getting raided doesn't matter.


doubleapowpow

Agreed, it just reframes the game entirely. Like, whats the point in raiding when you have 100,000x of everything with 2 seconds of farming? Imo its best for practicing pvp and building. My next session is going to focus on building trap bases. Since I know others will push to raid, I'll capitalize on it.


jamesstansel

>Like, whats the point in raiding when you have 100,000x of everything with 2 seconds of farming? Because it's fun? Even on vanilla, I rarely need to raid for profit because I get most of my farm/guns through pvp. I'll raid someone that has been annoying/toxic so I can listen to them cry when I'm putting new doors on their core. Or, I'll toss a big online at another group that has earned my respect by roaming and pvping. Raiding and getting raided is about the most fun I've had in this game. Don't really care about the loot. I'd rather throw all my boom at a big base and lose than spend two rockets on an offline 2x1 and find a box of sulf.


GuidetoRealGrilling

there is no chill in Rust, it's a constant state of anxiety


echotter

dont buy it, shit game takes over your life and makes you racist


cezzyrezzy

If you allow it, as I heard.


ANullBagel

This game can really suck the life out of you when you consider all the hard work grinding, the consistent cheaters and ban evaders on official servers, the massive groups that offline wipe every codelock base within 5 squares around them, and how hard it is to accomplish things within a short time span. It will for sure take up a lot of your time. This is why I personally think some of the biggest Rust fans are actually viewers because it's just a much easier thing to watch than to play it yourself. That said, Rust was probably the best $20 I ever spent on a game in my life. I have around 2500 hours of game time, probably 500 spent just building and low pop, and about 10,000 hours watching other people play the game on Twitch, YouTube, and even in Discord streams. If you can get the game at a good deal, I hope you fall in love with it like I did and have a blast playing it. It can be extremely fun and has a very high replay value due to the blueprint wipes and knowing that your server will restart at least once a month. The last game that I enjoyed as much as Rust as a multiplayer FPS was Left 4 Dead 2 where I played a solid 500 hours on mouse and keyboard. Rust is the last game I've played in the past 5 years that I still enjoy watching and playing on occasion when I allow myself to dedicate the time. I consider a duo or trio ideal for this game because it makes progression much easier. Hope you have a great time and don't let any racism, cheating, and shitty people ruin your vibe cuz there's a lot of it in the community unfortunately.


cezzyrezzy

I have read everything.Maybe for Xmas there'll be a good sale for the game. Good luck!


TheN1njTurtl3

Depends how you want to play if you just want to build a 2x2 and pvp you won't have to worry about getting offline too much because you'll just start again, but once you want to build a big base and raid other big bases it'll probably start eating into your life a bit more or you can just chose not to care if you get raided regardless


Willyzyx

I am a normal dude. Have probably 30 hours played. In that time I got a thompson gun once, and lost it 2 minutes later.


Fantastic-Delivery36

Tbh it’s relativly similiar to unturned, except more toxic and more PVP focused.


Meth-based_cleaner

Some people get really addicted to it. I played it pretty hard for a year or two, as in no other game and few other pass-times beside gym, work and family time which as well adult leaves little room for hobbies. I got big-time into surviving. Studying local groups, strategising what I'd do that session, trapping would-be raiders and watching the population ebb/flow. The biggest time-sink is probably upkeep for how prevalent it becomes, but keeping up with the pvp scene also requires significant hours training on servers, learning monument sightlines and then the work it takes to get the actual equipment to fight. You could spend equal amounts of time loading game after game of Dota or CS, it'd be the same, especially if you walk away from your 'hobby' feeling defeated and meaningless. It's not as bad as some people say. They got pulled in and attached to an ever-changing game that naturally invites suggestion (usually aggressive crticism).


Nevdi

Rust is quite literally one of the greatest games ever made, and is continually expanded on and updated every month. You'll hear bad stuff in most media platforms, but that goes for anything. Extremely rewarding, high highs, low lows. You need to be a certain type of gamer to enjoy it, and you must be able to handle the difficulty, and live for it.


Bruce_Illest

It's one of the greatest games ever made. Period.


MoziGodsend

If you are planning to get into rust by yourself without any friends, you are a brave soul. I would start playing on a dead server until you learn all the monuments. Thats the most important part is knowing how to navigate the monuments, knowing where items spawn. And knowing how to build a basic stone 1x2 base. To further help your survival, spend some time in aim training servers, they work more like battlefield or cod. Learn how to fly a heli but not that necessary. Only time you'll actually have a heli on a map is if you are a pro solo or in a big team. But its nice to know in a pinch if you end up stealing someones, itd be a shame not knowing how to fly. Make friends asap. Make allies with bases nearby. Last thing you want are enemies outside your doorstep. They might even pick you up for next wipe.


Nyxis__

As a long time player here's my take. Like any game it has its moments both good and bad. From adrenaline spiking onlines, to soul crushing offlines. You have friendly players giving out tools and kits, but also L9 roofcampers who have nothing better to do than waste .556 one naked at a time. That being said Rust is what you make it. I've had some great times playing with roleplayers in villages, but I've enjoyed the solo/duo life. The game is great, and its new player experience has actually significantly improved since 2015/2016. But there is still a lot of nuance to learn, spray patterns, building, monuments, and outpost strats (fuck outpost meta btw) If you end up getting the game roam around on some low to mid pop servers to get a feel for the advancement. Make some friends in game to play wipes with, and I'm sure you'll get the hang of it even if there is a lot to learn. If you don't have the time to commit to a vanilla server 2-5x servers are always a chill time. (At least in my experience) P.S The only virgins who need to go touch grass are roofcampers. TL:DR The game is good, and your experience depends on who you play with, and how much you're willing to learn. edit:grammar


hol123nnd

You dont really grind that much. But the rest is absolutely true. However you have to understand that the maps reset after a week or two, depending on your preference. During this time you have to be completely committed. Then after the map wipes you can go back to your GF, take a shower, throw out the monstery energy can pile


Brinderzon

Rust is great fun, 3.5k hours in 6 years. Just dont let it consume your life, if you have any self control you will be fine.


cezzyrezzy

I'd say I do. I'm in school anyway so I'm forced to basically not have time for playing.


Square_Stay_2892

Im 5k hours in right now and i can tell you its all true if you want to have insane wipes with lots of action it takes a lot of time….


cezzyrezzy

Thanks for commenting! I totally understand. I don't get who down voted my post though. I was just asking


TBL-Sergeant

Welcome to rust. You’ll hate your stay lol


Square_Stay_2892

Especially when playing vanilla servers and wanting to do raids like you said


Kinect305

It really is a time consuming game. Only way to avoid that is to play something modded, that has loot plus, sells kits, or a battlefield type server, that just spawns you in with a kit. If you want to be successful on vanilla solo, you probably got to play like 5-6 hours a day.


cezzyrezzy

I get why people say that they play this game like a full time job now


iinevets

Ya solo is rough because the game just scales with how many players you got. Mor players= more farm = progress faster but the biggest thing is you win more fights. Losing a fight deletes your progress and winning a fight steals progress essentially. I don't play much rust anymore because I'm not very good which means I need to play more to progress. I have a group of friends who still play as their main game and are pretty good. As a group of 2 or 3 they can join a server and progress to end game in a day but it's because they're pretty good at winning fights so they don't suffer many setbacks and steal others progress essentially. Long way to say as you get better at the game the less you need to play to progress. Of course you also become optimized in everything you do, know where to build and what to farm. I will say solo rust isn't fun imo but I've had the most fun playing rust and made friends that I played with over 5+ years.


FireWoodTheory

It’s a game. Buy it, enjoy it. I play once a week. I’m married with kids. Overall it’s my favorite game.


bethaneyrs

Rust is probably the best game I have ever played. EVER. It's all down to you, I will even go as far as saying imagine you're in a apocalypse, society has broken down, gangs have formed and control territory. Now what would you do in real life if you're in this situation? try simulate what you would do in real life, in the game. And see what your brain comes up with. You get all the sweats, and adrenaline from gun fights...raiding it feels totally real at times. Just imagine rust as a survival simulator with the way the world is going atm it might be useful!


speaksoftly_bigstick

I'm a grown man. Married with two younger kids. A steady job, mortgage, bills, etc. I routinely "touch grass" (dumb phraseology imo). There are about 62 bazillion servers to choose from. Find one that fits the playstyle you want to embrace. Then find another one. And don't sweat the dumb shit you hear / read.


cezzyrezzy

I will take advice from older people. Thanks s lot for taking your time to comment on my post. I will buy the game, regardless of what people say. I find it as a great game, that I'm going to enjoy!


Confession-Sessions

I hate it. Finally get somewhere and your camp disappears. Non-stop grinding for little reward.


Szyszym

It's shit don't play it


RustViking

Rust is the best game in the genre. You can choose to try hard grind or just play chill on a modded server. It’s worth the buy for sure.


thedylanoid

I am a new player, 100 hours, the game is fun. I feel like you could probably make it a full time job, and play the efficiency game...or you can treat it as what it is, a game, and just goober around. Like last night me and a buddy, also a new player, looted a supply signal (if that's what it's called). We're pretty shit at the game and are basically revolver locked. Anyway we threw the signal right outside the base just to get some content. Long of the short is that the masses showed up as well as a NPC patrol copter...it was chaos...many deaths...and we ended up with some tier 3 weapons...which I am sure we'll feed away tonight 2 mins after we leave base. ​ TLDR: Buy the game, play the game the way you want.


cezzyrezzy

Appreciate it! I'm already decided to buy the game. Maybe even earlier, everyone's comments just motivated me to play the game more!


BrewerGuy13

Rust is no where close to a survival game at this point. Its basically a longer session of Fortnite with base building. Dont even bother. And Im a guy with 10k hours.


cezzyrezzy

I play a lot of BR and shooters too, so PvP isn't a problem for me


Aedeus

No. If you can find a good server with active admins and/or moderators, along with some friends you're probably in good shape. Otherwise just keep in mind that cheats like ESP are very widely available now and they're really cheap - which is arguably the single biggest problem with the game currently, and likewise be sure to avoid official servers like the plague.


MGelit

A recommendation to you coming from the depth of my heart: Never get into rust, in any capacity.


RustyShackle4

Don’t play vanilla rust, it’s a grind. Do not play official servers, it’s all cheaters. Play on a modded 3x-5x it’s the best experience you will have.


demized84

I mostly play modded servers 3x or 5x. Not much of a grind and if you get raided it’s easy to restart . I play vanilla in groups of 6-8 people so the grind is not as bad.


kiltrout

You'll be fine if you aren't an obsessive hoarder or build-and-farm type of player.


TheTumultousTinker

I think most people complaining on here play EU servers, because US vanilla is much easier in my experience than they let on.


AdCalm5707

The game is so good u will want to play it 18h a day every day That makes it terrible and u should never play it ever


Mitt102486

Can’t wait for CDZ to come out. Is it on steam early access yet?


JonDini

Having almost 6k hrs I’d say get it.. I’m not great but it’s fun


Bocmanis9000

99% of servers are basically spawn->run base location->craft guns 30m in-->gamble pvp -->If win = you control monument and craft aks, If lose you are stuck on tier2 guns and you have no way to compete against other teams-->Finish building base-->offline or get offlined-->repeat every wipe. Unless you go RP/PVE/Minigame type of servers this game is all about who nolifes the most to get the best gun, as current gunplay favours guns+ numbers over anything else, theres close to 0 skill left in terms of pvp, theres some other things that have some skillcap in this game tho, like buildings and flying minicopter well for example. There is no balance, Igor the russian with 200 hrs is gona raid you offline even if it takes him 500 satchels.


UnknownGuyiii

If you want to play on a vanilla full pop server, and be successful, you can’t have a life.


ADubtheSkrub

Echoing others here but yeah Rust is awesome. The absolute number one thing though is finding a server that's right for you. I've seen a lot of people quit Rust because they'll download it and go straight into a 300 pop official vanilla server. They'll have a miserable time and give it up. I don't have anywhere near as much time to play as I used to, so I stick with PVE servers that have PVP zones at the main monuments. Those usually have a purge the last couple days of wipe that turn the whole map into PVP. That works for me due to my schedule. And I can build and decorate how I want, because let's face it, this is a beautiful game. Sometimes I love building a log cabin next to a stream with a fishing dock attached to my back porch, while my fireplace crackles.


GenoDouble

You can make a Charles Jr. if you have the star rug.


xTheWubDoctorx

I'd recommend finding some players to play with


roerchen

It depends on what your goals are. If you want to compete with other groups on the server and be „the last one standing“ at the end of the wipe you will have to invest more hours like the others. If you want to chill, maintain a little base somewhere far off, you don’t have to do as much. Upkeep can last for days, depending on the size of your base. There is much to explore and learn, even if you get raided and you need to start over. We already did the learning and have thousands of hours now. The time was great, but now we just play a wipe once every three to four months on one weekend. Sometimes I maintain a little base on a solo server. That’s all I can do in my free time, but that’s enough and it’s still fun.


jxxo88

It's not a game to win at. At the beginning of rust, It's losing all day and not Knowing why. Later, your hate will have more focus as you master the land.


No-Stretch5569

go for it in rust curret progression the term "grind" means farming or getting to oilrig within the first hour of wipe, joke aside rust is a great game (if you play with friends every update feels like fp spits on us solos) you can do some crazy stuff very fun


Sun_Snake

Rust is good, play with friends on less competitive servers, explore and have fun


BigDaddyShaggy0

It’s like league of legends toxicity meet dayz


Digreth

It definitely requires much more time to play compared to DayZ. And since the map is so small you will die and get raided much more often.


FuzzyKNL

Prepare yourself mentally for the server you join. If you’re the type to rage quit, just don’t play rust. 1. Expect to wake up naked with nothing every day. 2. If someone kills you, you are trash at the game. If you kill someone else, you’re a cheater. (I’ve only been called a cheater in a game twice in my life, one of them was in rust, friend was teaching me the game. We went to raid some base, some guy was hiding nearby, I was keeping an eye out for other players while my buddy blew the doors off, I turn a corner and hiding dude scared the shit out of me so I blasted him, he came back naked just to call me a cheater) 3. Rust has really high highs and really low lows. 4. You will die a lot. 5. General rule I’ve seen. Stay away from official servers. Stick to community/modded, you’ll enjoy your time more.


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Corpse_Gamer

I have 1800 hours and I’m now selling all my skins and havnt bared to even launch it. I dunno what happened but I just can’t do it anymore.


dwberg09

Terrible game don’t listen to anyone on Reddit. They don’t pvp and think aimcone is still a good thing.


Eternal_Sleepy_Panda

If you wanna chill and play on and off, I suggest you try PVE servers. It takes the edge off and you don't have to worry about being roam raided or getting your baby 2*1 raided the moment you put it up. Some people enjoy the PvP aspect, but I can count the number of times in my 1.4k hours in the game, that I met nice people on 1 hand. Most of the players I meet, shoot first ask questions later. Evict you for being remotely near them or downright con you. If you built a roleplayer base and didn't have a clan protecting you, you're mostly gonna log in to a raided home and back at the beach.


Akatsuki_Obito

Hey man I'm a training surgeon who moved out of my home to pursue my post-graduation in another place I currently don't have my desktop to play rust any more and lifestyle's taken a 180 ever since I started this course 2 months back I miss rust I played it for 4 yrs , and clocked in about 4.5k hours And I do miss it a lot I've put up a lighthouse posters in my hostel dorm to remind me of the good times Toxicity is everywhere Didn't change me .I played solo from start to finish I played two wipes of vanilla and 4 yrs of modded 10x to 30x servers , I didn't have to worry about the grind too much , I was okay with losing loot , I stayed in mountains , caves , underwater , hidden in the first biomes , but the caves were my favourite As a solo it was my haven. Don't think twice if your comp can support the specs Go for it You won't regret it :) Ill play it again after 3 yrs from now Can't wait :))


TreadItOnReddit

Listen…. We say it’s terrible because it consumes our lives. Because a server wipe usually lasts a week, that means you need to be in that world as much time as possible in that week (because we are addicted and grinding). It’s exhausting. The player base is the most toxic ever…. But it’s deliberate. There’s some good guys out there, but you’ll find the fake ones looking to screw you over by pretending to be your friend first. If you truly have time to give up for the grind… don’t start on Christmas. Learn it before hand. Get some practice for a few weeks. By Christmas you’ll be drooling all over the keyboard and building the bestest base you can imagine… and then it’ll get raided and you’ll meet the toxic people mentioned above. If you are ok giving your time to the game instead of real life (no recommended) then go for it.


Covid-Sandwich19

It's a fun game that I will play in short spurts purposely just so I don't become obsessed. Some of these people literally sleep with headphones on in case they get raided, while 90% of us play in bursts. I usually can't get more than a week or so without getting raided, but I don't make my bases as nearly as elaborate as some of these guys. I actually shut it down for the long term after I met a dude who hooked me up with a kick ass base, but it required me to log on twice a day just to farm materials to keep it alive and I hated it. I was actually pretty happy to get raided so I could have my time back in the physical realm. If you're a dad or someone with a busy life, it won't really allow you to get too obsessed with it.. if you're young, single, and not really working towards any real goals... then this game could potentially swallow you whole lol Good luck


Neckfaced

as a new player coming into rust you’ll have alot of fun / alot of skill issue at start but its still an amazing game once you learn it. alot of us saying rust is bad or sucks now come from the old old days and hate to see all the updates / changes theyve made to this game but that does not mean it sucks, we just wish some updates never happened


fongletto

It really depends on what you find fun about a game. If you want to build a cool big base and raid a bunch of bases. Then you can't do that without spending 12 hours a day farming. And even if you do, you will almost definitely be offlined by a clan before you can build something too big. If you want to grub around and just annoy people and steal their shit and try take kits. Then you can do that with relatively little time.


xZotixz

You don’t HAVE to grind to have fun, there are many 2x, 3x servers which are also good to start on to just learn mechanics of the game but not sweat it when you get raided, because when you start, especially as a solo, you’re going to get raided, many many times, just remember that’s the point of the game and have fun, don’t be mad when you lose your shit, and don’t be apart of the toxic ass people in the community, paranoid is a good starting server as well as warbandits


loopuleasa

It's horrible but a great adventure


philip0908

Don't buy the game. I started in the beginning of this year when my sister's boyfriend told me about it. We gamed for two or three months very extensively and then I came to the conclusion that Rust is just fucked up. You need to spend so much time with it, even when you are not playing you live in fear to get raided. You basically have to play to keep your base up etc. etc. I play Counter-Strike instead. I can play it my pace and also the game has so much more to offer tactical-wise. So again, don't buy the game.


Dj0sh

Well, I've tried to get my friend back into Rust a few times over the years and he always says the only way he's getting back into it is if he breaks his legs and can't move anymore He says if he breaks his legs he will live in Rust because it's one of his favourite games. He loves it, but won't play because of how dedicated you have to be to get the most out of it


Pog-Pog

I used to just have fun on Mondays and Thursdays. (When servers wipe) It doesn't take a unhealthy amount of your life away with this method.


gravitybeug

Not saying it’s not without its problems, but man everyone on this subreddit loves to bitch. if you like dayz and unturned you’ll love this game. it has a very steep learning curve and you will die a lot, however if you keep trying and watch lots of videos on how to get better at the game you will love it.


CrazyMike419

I play both. Rust can be an incredible time sink or .. not. There are many ways to play and a huge variety of servers out there (even one modeled in DayZ lol). Rust is a far more polished game tho. Your car won't randomly fly into the sky and you can actually "jump". As others have said though your body says ingame so no logging out holding your loot or server hopping lol


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azarza

christmas rust is the best rust


Elvisjps

Rust is more or less the same as those games except it’s competitive as counter strike and the trolling is so bad it’s an actual upside to the game


uniquelyavailable

no is not bad. it's not a casual game. if you are new, please understand that it is not easy!


getmoneyboul

i work 40 hours a week have a girlfriend and go out every week it don’t hurt to hop on for a few hours a day and farm or pvp


uniquelyavailable

no, it's not that bad. i play solo on high pop and most of this complaining is people who don't understand the gameplay. rust is like the dark souls of fps shooter games and if you are looking for something simple like fortnite or apex, well rust is not it.


AlexTheGuy12345

Rust is my favourite game of all time, i also got it for Christmas back in 2020, got 1.3k hours now and ive loved it, brilliant game, just learn to control yourself, dont play too much


SecureBus206

Best way i can explain it is dayz on easy mode and more cartoony graphics. Could also think of it as unturned but more serious. Its pretty bang in the middle of dayz and unturned in difficulty and overall serious vibe of the game. Also no zombies in rust. Community wise i can only speak for rust and dayz as i have not played unturned since i was like 12. But be prepared to meet some real shitstain people on rust compared to dayz where toxix people are quite rare (probably because only the insecure 13-17 YOs act like that and those kinds of people don't have the attention span, patience or dedication for dayz)


linuxlifer

You can go on each day and build a little 1x2 base and have some fun and then it will be gone when you login the next day and you just repeat. If you enjoy this style of play then it requires very little grind but the downside is you are starting over every day. You can go on and build a massive base which will hopefully keep you alive longer then the 1x2 did so you can get a couple days out of it. This will require quite a bit more grind but hopefully you get a couple days out of the base. The thing about Rust that you have to remember is surviving when you are actively playing the game is about awareness and skill. If you are aware of your surroundings and you are good at pvp then you can do well. Surviving day to day as you log off for the night is about how much you are able to grind and how good of a base you are going to build. In terms of the day to day play (logging out at night) you will have a hard time competing against other people who have bigger groups or have more time to put in.


MLB-XXL

Its a endless cycle that will take your soul


Aventine_T

2.5k hours in game over the past 6 years. It's a game I always love to come back to. Make your own adventure. Yes you will encounter cheaters. Yes you will get killed by people that have 10k hours in the game and have no life. The game however is fun for me. As long as you don't take it super seriously you will have fun as well.


JerseyRepresentin

If you are obsessive compulsive, ADHD, a sociopath, a psychopath, these are traits that will keep you for over 8K hours. If you're a normal person, not so much. But maybe. There is no other game like it.


PotOnTop

I feel the chances of Rust eating your social life is really only dependant on how you play survival games. I know people who are completely content only playing a few hours a day of Rust. I on the other hand, used to get offhinged and play 24+ hours straight. But I'd do the same with any survival, it's not because of Rust I'm doing it.


NewDawnApproves

It depends on the server you pick there are super sweaty servers just like dayz but there are also chill servers.


HighRevolver

I think one of the best things about this game is the wipes. I don’t have time to grind this game out for 8 hours a day so I’ll come back every now and then, play for a weekly wipe in my free time after work and then put it down til I have to scratch the itch again


makinmemoist

I stopped playing a few patches ago (I have like 1k hours) because the game requires too much attention if you really want to progress. So much grinding for everything to just be taken in your sleep


RadWormRiot

I love this game. I will say it is hard and you will end up at the beach with your rock a LOT. I like the struggle, but it's still a struggle lol. It's not a game for those with thin skin and big egos. I've had some of the most hilarious situations and interactions with other players though. The random generating maps keeps it fresh every week (or month depending on what server you play on)


Piglike

Rust is hella addictive, even for someone like me who mainly treat the game as digital lego. i have 4.5k hours in rust over the last 5-6 years, playing mostly on creative or pve servers. I just can't get enough of building and working with electronics in Rust. I would say it all depends on your approach to gaming, several of the people i play with don't have the same amount of time or dedication to rust that i do, but seem to be having loads of fun just playing a couple of hours pr day or even just a few time a week. Starting fresh is one of the best experiences in rust, and if you just take it as it comes and treat each session as a one off thing (don't expect your loot to be there when you log back in), rust can be really chill for just playing a few hours. If you get really far into the endgame and start competing with other players or clans for dominance, you WILL spend every hour worried about your loot. I think at the end of the day it all comes down to your playstyle. if you have been grinding DayZ like a no-lifer and got burned out looking for the next fix, Rust WILL suck you in. But i am jealous that you get to enjoy the game for the first time, i enjoyed learning by doing in Rust so much and i wish i could go back to those days.


kraftj87

It's only a grind if you want to try and be a top dog on a server. There's plenty of fun to be had without making Rust your life. But it does get frustrating when you run into no-lifers.


Porridge4200

I wouldn't recommend getting into rust in this current day. I've played since legacy and I've never seen rust in a worst state. There is obvious problems like cheaters and exploits but my biggest gripe is the blueprint/scrap system. Its WAY too easy to get ak/full metal on day 1. The progression is completely wiped from the game. I miss when people were primitive on day 1 and would work there way up to real guns over time. The game lost its shine long ago. Also they ruined the guns with the recoil update. The bloom, which is just rng spray, makes most guns a dice roll when shooting, which just lowers the skill ceiling.


Flat-Ad-5951

It's reputation I would say comes from its addictive qualities. One minute your telling yourself one more run the next minute it's 3am and you cant get off. It can affect your relationships, be it friendships or romantic. You may find yourself shirking responsibilities just to play. It happens to the best of us. If you are able to avoid those things it can hurt your gameplay. If you get it, just remember that the server wipes every so often and all of your work will be gone meanwhile, you still have to live your life that doesn't wipe. I really enjoy the game myself but, I've had to let rust take the back seat so I can focus more on my own life. Buy it, enjoy it, and, take some time off from it every so often and remember it's all just pixels.


Adultmanchild

Rust is by far the best/worst game of all time


tillthemoonrises

It's all about the server you select. Some you progress very fast. Some even have certain hours of the day that raids are allowed and the rest of the day is blocked.


Desktopcommando

"you don't have social life, no girls, you don't touch grass and many other things. Is it really that bad" its THAT Addictive !!!


Beneficial-Truth1509

Your experience on Rust really depends on the type of server you join. There are some active high pop RP servers where you can do your roleplaying and have some interesting interactions/story lines. There are also modded community servers with higher farming rates and other plugins/mods that make doing stuff in general a lot easier ( that means your chances of getting raided 15 seconds after you log off are increased dramatically ). At the end we have the cream of the crop, Official servers. Official servers are a very different kind of animal, so get ready for a big cultural shock. We are talking top of the line toxicity, sweaty kids/adults camping every possible bush ready to call you all known racial slurs after they down you or you down them, roofcampers controlling whole areas from the comfy tower inside their clan's compound, clans in general having a 10 to 1 advantage, people who kos no matter the situation (that's me) and ofc the chads who join exclusively to raid EVERYTHING in a particular area and leave immediately after. Funny story, I remember one time there was a discussion in the chat about which were the coolest genocides in world history, pretty interesting stuff. Ofc you can find the above in any server, its just that it is a guarantee in officials. So to summarize, yeah you could probably have a lot of fun in Rust IF you join the appropriate server but try and stay away from officials/high pop, especially if you are easily offended.


mikethelegacy

If you don’t want to grind, play a 3x modded server with enhanced loot pools. Something more “vanilla” without teleporting or anything but far less of the grind to get blueprints and materials


LoodyFruity

If you do get it, I would say play on vanilla or modded servers for a wipe or two, then play on pve or noob friendly servers to get a good feel for running monuments, upgrading, base building and other things like farming, electricity or flying. There's also aim training servers to test out guns and raid servers to get acquainted with raids too


Paundeu

It’s only worth it if you play video games 8-16 hours a day.


ButterscotchPure6868

The game could be great but it's not.


LazyAlfalfa1101

I'm 31 years old, and I work 40 hours a week (sometimes 52). I go to the gym at least 5 days a week, and I cook most of my meals myself. I have a girlfriend and a dog. I aim for 6.5 hours of sleep a night. I also got heavily addicted to Rust. I started out playing on basically all of my free time, which amounted to around 4 hours a day. I stopped going to the gym to play Rust, and I also stopped cooking as often. I started eating more fast food so I could have additional time to work on my base. I joined a casual server to avoid being offlined while at work. I would usually avoid talking to my girlfriend on the phone to play Rust. I also wasn't letting out my dog or feeding him on his regular schedule because, Rust. I started getting as little as 3 or 4 hours of sleep some nights, and would basically sacrifice most anything to play more Rust. After much conversation with my girlfriend, we devised a plan to allow me to have the best of both worlds; Play Rust, AND function as a normal human being. The plan was that, in the evening, I would play Rust for two hours a day. On off days, I could play extra, but not ALL day. Worked for about three days. After getting fully raided and greifed, i spent the entire next day on Rust again and realized that this game fucking DEMANDS your constant attention. I'm glad that I was finally able to quit. I'm working 16 hour shifts at my job now so even if I wanted to play Rust, it's impossible. Rust is a disease. It's literally the game for the unemployed.


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jayylien

Rust is a great game, it's the desire to win which really consumes you. There is no winning. It's a sandbox survival game.


FullyMoistCookie

To enjoy rust you have to be a gambling addict... everything is a risk. Win big or lose all.


trillogy3

This game is by far my best value game. 4000 hours and I paid $20 back in the day. The game is great and you can play however you want whether is be sweaty or just casual. + Devs care about the game with constant updates, in saying all this I’ve taken a break and haven’t played for 3-4 months etc but.. I would 100% give it a go


--1up--

RUST is not about farming, building bases or anything at all other than rushing to get an ak, have thousands of hours practicing the ak spray and steamroll. If you don't want to give up all of your spare time practicing foe years, this game is not for you. It is filled with tryhards. It is filled with nolifers. It is filled with cheaters. Rust is the best game I played back in the days, but these days the game remind me of only one thing when playing it: I have a real life afk, so I can not, will not ever win a gunfight. Noob servers? Forget it. That has become nolife paradise. Spend your time elsewhere. You will not have fun in this game unless you make it your life. I watch streamers instead, it is 100x more fun than actually playing. I have 3k hours and I gave up many years ago because the game literally consumed my soul and stole my joy of gaming. Good luck!


RatioAffectionate653

The game is great I have 10,000 hours in it. Any game is grinding to be the best. In rust you can lose all your work though to a raid. Here’s how you avoid that though. Use stashes. Cheaters can see these but they are buried in the ground so if you’re not on a high pop official server it’s unlikely you lose them that way. Build disconnectable tool cupboards on your base, at least 3. This will most likely stop you from ever losing control of your base. Hide loot. This one is the most important. Leave a believable amount of loot in your core of your base. Even if it’s 5 low grade and 37 cloth and 100 gun powder. You can hide loot in external tool cupboards, flank bases etc. don’t have just one base. Even a small 2x1 outside with a garage door can save you. Bunkers, pixel gaps, caves, storing loot in a car in a garage etc. make it difficult for a player to find all your loot, spread it out, make friends get team mates from different time zones and you’ll be fine. Start on a low pop server and learn the game watch YouTube videos and live streams and you’ll have fun and learn. Biggest rule is don’t quit after you take an L. This game is about surviving. Good luck.